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Open Thread #601

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Is the recap for the finale week of The Light in Your Eyes coming out soon, @mary?

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Sooooooon! T___T I refuse to give up on Hye-ja.

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Oh, and I'm sorry. :'( And thank you for waiting for her too.

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I'm so pleased to read this. The final episodes were like their own standalone movie and I've wanted to see a recap/comment/discussion on it.

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Patiently waiting here too. *raise hand

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I'm so lazy these days... Living at 200% for 1 and a half month is getting on me. I could do better while younger, but not now. I wonder how others can live like this for their entire life - now I understand people who retire, if you're not keeping the same rythme you get the blues.

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My mom's counting days for her retirement to come but she's getting more and more tired and I'll. Head up mom, I love you soooooooooooooo much! Keep going I'll try to do my best as wellπŸ”ŒπŸ”‹πŸ’‘

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*hug*

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I don't know if it is possible, but don't forget to take breaks now and then but more importantly, don't forget to take care of you!

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After 34 years, my last day in the office is June 28, 2019. As you can imagine, it has been hard to stay on point. I have Senior-itis and summer vacation is almost here!

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My mom's is 1st of May - labor holiday. Wish you plenty of strength to get there 🀞

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Congratulations, enjoy your retirement!

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Congrats and enjoy! So envious!

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I wanted to 'retire' some 2 years ago ... it's not happening yet, but I kind of know how you feel. I've imagined what it would be like if I didn't have to work. Yeah, there are pros and cons. Maybe before the actual time I'm thinking of the pros, but after ... maybe I'll wail about the cons?!?! :-D

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Since I am traveling the world alone, I do worry that sometimes I might be lonely, but every adventure has its perils ^^

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Happy Friday Beanies!

This must be the longest break I've had from Korean dramas. It feels weird checking out Dramabeans and not read recaps or join spazzing a current kdrama on the fan wall.

Am I falling out of love with kdramas? I think not, I remember being pleased with some excellent dramas these two years- Sky Castle, The Light In Your Eyes, Children of Nobody, My Ahjussi and Life On Mars. I have just become more selective and less easy to please. So my list of dramas is shrinking.

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NOISE POLLUTION - I usually find asian dramas having too much noise pollution. Actors mostly shout in the name of normal talk,
high pitch, shrill,crass, high decibal voices that pains your ear. Overtime you get accustomed to it. Now i can deal with J-doramas and kdramas but it will take time to get accustomed to Chinese dramas.

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It took me 1⃣and half cdramas to get accustomed to them. Mostly the half drama was more convincing EVER NIGHT

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You're not the only one

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It's natural! With me, it depends on my mood. I have a list of great K-dramas I'm excited to watch, but some weeks I just feel like reading YA novels or watching variety shows.

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I think personal life has a lot to do with drama slump too. I have been in a slump for about a year and a half. I did appreciate the good dramas but couldn't get to complete any. Tastes differ with time too. But kdramas for sure have become less exciting. I long for the time when I used to eagerly wait for tge next episode. Such dramas just come once in a while now.

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@wapz i couldn't agree more I used to think I was the one changing but no, I guess dramaland has taken a turn and that is why dramas are a bit different, they feel different.
I like KILL IT though

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I'll always find a reason to watch dramas. When I am busy, I'd think no time for dramas but strangely, I end up watching as usual but at expense of sleep. Not good but it happens. The times when personal life gets in the way is when I am up to my neck(not normal busy) or something huge is happening.

This slump in particular is more kdrama specific. I am watching other dramas.

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So true...I'm finding it harder and harder to find a really good, entertaining yet meaningful kdrama that isn't just a mediocre retread. Chinese dramas have had something to do with that - the characters and stories are more calm, the scenery and clothing are pretty, the heroes are consistently good, with no internal problems. But that gets a tad boring too. So kdramas are for excitement, over the top emotional, when I'm in the mood for that. C-dramas are for when I need to calm down and relax.
I did just re-watch Arang and the Magistrate. I had forgotten how good it was or perhaps it seemed better now that I understand Asian storytelling. But it did remind me of the way Chinese fantasies are set up.
I'm absolutely binging Wu Xin the past few days, now that it's on Viki. Last year I skipped a lot, ff thru a lot and now that all the characters and stories are interesting and I'm paying attention to every scene, it's become one of my top four C-dramas.
I must watch dramas the first time like how you'd read Spark Notes (Cliff Notes, whatever the going thing is) before you read the entire novel, because the first time watching I ff thru so much, just to get an idea of the story and to get the obsession with what happens to the main couple out of the way. Later I'll watch the whole thing again in more detail. It might be immediately or it might be a few months later or even a year later.
I can't name a kdrama lately that is outstanding, except for Light in Your Eyes and as you said, Life on Mars. I'd add Just Between Lovers. Haven't watched the others you've mentioned.

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Can I ask for a few C Drama recommendations?? I've seen a few, but a lot of the ones I've seen were idol dramas that were pretty over the top, and I need some good C-dramas to brush up on my Chinese^^

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It depends on what your tastes are. I usually like dramas that don't seem to be as popular with other C-drama fans and I usually don't like the ones that are really popular! I could only name you some of my favorites. I don't usually like fantasies that take themselves too seriously or the cast is so young they act like pre-teens.
Do you like modern dramas, action, romance? Or do you like fantasies, historical, Republican Era, Qing dynasty? Or do you watch according to favorite well-known actors that aren't young "idols"?
I go with actors I already know of usually. Some of the dramas I liked aren't really very good productions but for some reason I still like them...
I only watch Viki and some YouTube dramas too.
But here goes:
William Chan: modern "Only Side By Side With You". Not that great and it has the frustrating sequence of more and more flashback memories, filler, etc., but I still liked it. Fantasy: Lost Love in Times. Republican Era, Mystic Nine (supernatural).
Xu Kai: Story of Yanxi Palace, The Legends.
Liu Hao Ran: Nirvana in Fire 2. Modern: With You.
Elvis Han: Republican Era: Wu Xin Monster Killer. Has a lot of heart, imo, and beautiful OST. Siege in Fog. Terrible ending, but good study of family dynamics in the twilight era of warlords.
Wallace Huo: Modern: Love Me If you Dare. Republican Era: Great Protector. Historical (fiction): Imperial Doctress. Movies: Our Time Will Come, Hide and Seek.
Ethan Ruan: Movie: Paradise in Service. Romance: Fated to Love You (silly at times) and Queen of No Marriage (My Queen). Fantasy: Legend of Fuyao. He's a much better actor than he's given credit for I think. You can tell he puts his whole being into his roles.
Zheng Ye Cheng: adorable in the fantasy An Oriental Odyssey. Didn't take itself too seriously, kind of quirky, and I loved the way they did going back in time, though apparently many fans didn't like that aspect.
My favorites of these: NIF2, Oriental Odyssey, Legend of Fuyao and I'll probably add Wu Xin to my all-time favorites though as I said, they're not the most popular ones with others.
Let me know what your favorites are, or which ones you don't or didn't like!

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Thanks!! So far, ones I've seen and liked (from China and Taiwan): MARS, Murphey's Law of Love, Surgeons, Faust's Smile, the Taiwanese version of Coffee Prince, Love Me If You Dare, When a Snail Falls in Love, General and I, ...I think that's it^^

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You and I almost always like the same dramas Linda. I might like rom coms more than you so I will add a couple of my faves to your list:

Wallace Huo in Perfect Couple. My first C Drama and it was a romp from beginning to end. Plus sexy.

Prince of Ling Ling - couldn't wait to see her next invention.

Battle Through the Heavens - coming of age rather than romance focus but Leo Wu and Baron are adorable and I loved the challenges. For my inner Harry Pot ter fan.

I don't tend to like J Drama romances because the women are too docile or weird but that's not the case in My Last Cinderella. Loved it, and her gorgeous leading men.

Recently delved into Thai drama. Now that's been an experience. But amongst all dross there are a few romantic gems I highly recommend.

Bhuppae Sannivat - historical, romantic, fun, just a little slow when they concentrate on the historical.

Kleun Cheevit - excellent hate to love romance, decent plot, and huge chemistry between the leads.

Full House Thai - so fun, doesn't drag as much as the Korean, good chemistry between leads

Mafia Luerd Mungkorn - Suer, okay everyone needs to give this a try as a guilty pleasure. My current crack. You'll hate the noisy main girl the first episode. He keeps telling her to shut up and you'll agree. You won't be sure about chauvinist him either - he keeps telling her what women can't do (she later proves him wrong). And honestly, I thought he looked a bit weaselly at first. But OMG, I am now in love with this actor Ananda
Everingham. The chemistry between the leads is on fire I swear. So even though the plot seems to transition from desert island love to Romeo and Juliet, to Ta ming of the Shrew (but she's not a shrew, she reminds me of a ditzy I love Lucy type) and doesn't need taming, to weird slap/kiss in the second kidnapping (I overlook this bit - not sexy not okay, just a bad script choice to fill out the episodes), to a kind of Annie get your gun contrived ending. And I still loved it! Btw, there is no rape in this drama but there is the threat of it one night which she very successfully challenges him on.

All the dramas above I have rewatch ed scenes from, and because I am not rewatcher, you can tell how much I liked them.

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@barbrey Hmm, I'll have to retry Perfect Couple - I didn't watch it because it's never been totally subbed in English, but I love Wallace Huo. I guess I could re-try Battle Thru the Heavens, I vaguely remember liking someone else in the drama (but I don't remember who). Will look at Prince of Ling Ling (again...) Thanks!
I'll have to wait on trying Thai dramas, I have so many C-dramas to still try!

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I may be wrong but I think Kdramas used to just entertain and they did the job very well. With each success, they try to emulate and as time goes on, the novelty wears out. Some writers turned out to be one hit wonders but it takes a couple of duds to realize it. Same with the actors.

C-dramas aren't necessarily better. There are complete duds but it's just that they make so many dramas(some which aren't even aired!) that the chances of getting a good one is higher. I hope that the number of good C dramas will be an increasing trend. Another advantage is the budget, I am wowed by their sets, costumes and cinematography. Of course, you can't always buy taste with money but when you get both, the result is superb. This is very apparent in period dramas.

I haven't been watching Taiwanese dramas for a long time except for the recent The World Between Us. What they lack in budget, they got the heart. Those dramas I watched years ago stuck longer in my head than the K ones.

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Agree. On another topic, right now I'm watching live streaming of the Merry Monarch Festival in Hilo, Hi.

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My first k Drama was Boys Over Flowers a few years ago and I still remember my shock when he kidnapped her! And he wasn't just pretending to be an asshole but really had a heart of gold, he was an honest to goodness bully as main lead

I was embarrassed to keep watching but fascinated at the same time.

I got introduced to Korean saunas, and group back scrubbing, and family kim chi making, and unabashed Korean commercialization, and chaebol heirs, and women that actually wear heels higher than 4" . It was culture shock and fascination at the same time.

That's gone now for me, I've watched too many k dramas and S Korea is becoming more like my country Canada. Westernized. Their dramas are better quality, more politically correct, and have branched out from romance to embrace a lot more genres. Great for Koreans, good TV in their language, not so great for int'l fans like me who liked the strangeness, the unembarrassed romance, the plots that could have been written in the 50s.

Ah well, there are always the gems like I Am Not a Robot, or Go Back Couple, or Strong Woman that will keep me checking out k dramas, so even though they've lost lustre in the strange or weird department, S Korea still produces better rom coms than any other country.

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What attracted me in the first place: "plots that could have been written in the 50s". They still focus on people, not super heroes. Once they start focusing on superheroes that'll be it. Good bye.

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When I first got into K-dramas I mentioned to someone "These shows may be formula but they're formula I'm *unfamiliar with*. So I can enjoy them as new until I start catching on to the tropes." I still recall the thrill of my first rollover bus of doom, my first prolonged separation right before the finale, my first arrogant chaebol redeemed by love, my first wacky comedy that abruptly turned into a serious melodrama.

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It could be due to several factors.
It could be due to the overuse of certain tropes, to the point where we now want more original / refreshing stories.
It could be due to our mood and/or where we are at our life. For ex, I tend to watch fluffy kdrama when I'm stressed, eventhough I know there are some very good - but dark- shows out there. Or I tend to skip coming of age shows, just because I feel I'm too old for them now.

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I like coming of age shows depending on the actor. There are some quite young actors that just seem more like old souls. These are mostly Chinese actors like Liu Haoran, Chen Feiyu and Xu Kai. My favorite coming of age drama is Nirvana in Fire 2.

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I used to think I don't like rom coms and youth dramas but it wasn't actually so. I just didn't like the type which are full of tropes, bad acting and famous actors with zero chemistry.

I am watching a C drama - Put Your Head On My Shoulder. The story couldn't be more typical but what makes it great? The actors are excellent, at least for the roles they are playing. The characters are well written and that makes a world of difference. Heirs is a classic example of horrid character writing with equally bad acting. Last but not least, don't ignore the details. The little things that happen or observations made in the drama go a long way.

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So true about Put Your Head On My Shoulder !

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I see that Put Your Head on My Shoulders is airing and it sounded interesting - I must try it, Det. L, Guardian, as long as they're on You Tube...

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They are all on youtube. Can’t wait to start Det. L.

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Despite the currently not bad shows, my viewing list has shrunk to 1. Just don't have the mood to start another one concurrently. I'm going for 1 episode things and non kdrama stuff. British English seems to be the language of choice for me at the moment!! :-) Hope a new show hits us both to stir a dollop of interest, and maybe we can end up watching about the same show at the same time!!

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I feel the same way. And I don't think it's us. I'm having no problems marathoning rewatches, so obviously all the old drama-watching stamina is still there. All that heart that went into that one hot drama per season before now seems like it's been chopped up and evenly parcelled out between ten or more mediocre entries each season. At first I continued to watch each promising new drama and mine out the good, but I've been feeling too tired to do it lately. There's something to be said for the in-your-face sledgehammer storytelling from the last decade. You went into each drama knowing exactly what you'd get instead of the jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none hodgepodge now. The dramas now feel so tame, so utterly politically-correct - it feels like there's a giant checklist hovering over each drama scene hollering 'these are the people we tried to please with this scene' It takes one right out of the drama itself. So for the time being I'm just sitting back and waiting for the next hit to come along while I rewatch old k-drama favourites and revisit j-dramaland.

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For me, reading about RL events in SK has also destroyed my enjoyment in certain kinds of dramas. I no longer want to see: women being forced (physically or emotionally) to drink until they pass out, women being kissed against their wishes, women being pushed against walls and other problematic behaviour that might be considered cute but is really stalking.

However, like you, I have watched some excellent dramas recently. They just don't seem to be the ones that the fan wall is filled with.

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You are right! I am particularly sensitive to such things now. It's gotten quite bad to the extent that I can't even watch some actors(not that there's anything I know about them in real life)

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The whole recent scandal has prevented me from variety shows. Most these people involved were frequent variety stars and variety has a reputation that the permanent members or frequenters are nice people. That however turned out to be not the case. I am extra conscious of things with double meaning and people hinting in variety over other's doings. Plus i don't want to believe how variety portrays them.

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Can you please name some of the excellent dramas you watched?

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Hm, off the top of my head in the last year I've liked (that @outofthisworld didn't already mention): Live, Life, Twelve Nights, Mother, Miss Hammurabi, Thirty but Seventeen (this one was Fan wall popular), Emily's Five Things (Taiwanese and super cute), Live Up To Your Name, Avenger's Social Club.

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Thank you!

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it goes in phases. Last year i watched a lot of cdramas because so many of the kdramas felt meh to me. Definitely check out Beautiful World. And Nokdu Flower. As for cdramas, Pushing Hands, All is Well, Legend of Minglan.

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I think Beautiful World is a meaningful drama but I'm just not in the mood. Same with Nokdu Flower. I'm probably going overboard but I am finding it harder these days to watch oppression or anything where the rich and powerful lords over the ones who have less.

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i know that feeling. I have that against seeing oppressive sneaky people'amnesia, and identity confusion/birth secrets/misunderstandings. I seem unable to deal with betrayal, sneakiness, esp if from the second female lead. I often stop watching when jealous creepy entitled second lead female pops up...which is why i'mavoiding Her Private Life. I think also, for me, i just hate it when i think a writer is dragging out a story by putting in some wornout cliche meant to keep the lovers apart. It makes me feel manipulated by a writer who simply wants to add some more episodes to a story. Nokdu Flower will be a hard watch for me because i had to go google the whole history. Am steeling myself for many deaths, much oppression, and a heck of a lot of scheming rich folk. So i get it definitely.

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Happy Friday Beanies! Had a great Easter Weekend among the rainforest and sea. Now back home to reality. But reality isn’t that bad because I love my job *touches wood* The house remains clean since my little boy is back in school. Cats are fat and happy and the husband and I watch tv and eat together. Eagerly waiting for Ramadan to arrive and more and more dramas to come!

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Anyone knows who isn’t picking up Nokdu flower in the USA. I don’t see it in Viki not Netflix.

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I thought the rumor was Netflix.

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Kocowa, I guess. Viki had it in the Coming Soon section until a couple days ago but something must have fallen through.

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Ok that’s what I thought. I remember adding it to my following list. And it’s gone today. Arrhhhhhggg.

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At least Viki is still listing The Legends as starting in 5 days. But now Roku says "restricted access". This is the other drama I'm looking forward to the most.
Something is definitely going on. I wonder if Kocowa will be starting their own streaming service really soon and is eliminating the major 3 network shows from rakuten. Either that or Netflix got the license but I haven't seen anything yet.

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If Netflix got Nokdu flower, then we may have a delayed start.

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It isn't on Coming Soon anymore on Viki because it's on the regular schedule. Should start tomorrow.

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Wait, what? I just re-checked and it's listed as a "Fan Channel".??? Viki has gone from over 60 Coming Soon to 17. They removed movies, put some things as a "Fan Channel". I'm a tad concerned about what's happening with Viki, especially since it's the last streaming service for Asian dramas on my Roku tv.

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And now it's "Page Not Found"...not even a fan channel. Wtf? This is the one kdrama I've been looking forward to the most.

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This is so disappointing. I see that some movies in ComingSoon are missing from there. A lot of titles are gone.
Am worried now.
I really was excited about this drama.
I hope its some technical issue and not licensing issue.

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Well, well, well.....it's on Kocowa streaming service only, there's a "lock" so you have to be a paying member of Kocowa exclusively to watch it. Forget, I'll probably boycott Kocowa.

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Ahhh... I am sorry that you cannot watch it. I do have that app.πŸ™ˆ Did you read regarding Taiwan willl air uncut 55 episodes of Goodbye My Princess. πŸ₯°However, I a, not gonna watch it as I already watched it already. Besides, I am not sure it it will be sub.

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I heard they were going to add uncut version but didn't realize it was just for Taiwan. I didn't watch Goodby My Princess anyway. I liked her teacher better, so I stopped watching, plus once they went to the palace it was boring to me because I just don't like palace intrigue.

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I love the palace as they fell in love again. I also love their wedding. I do hope you get that drama another chance. I have watched Detective L which is same YouTube channel as Put your head on my shoulders. Both are really interesting.

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@Trina: Detective L and Put your Head are two I really want to see!

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@trina Is Shawn Wei in Goodby Princess enough that I would enjoy it? I liked him better than the prince she marries. In fact, I've added two other dramas to watch that Shawn Wei is in.

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What do you mean as a actor or his character? Yes, he messed up by getting Ninth Princess’s grandpa killed. he amends his relationship with her. However, it is sad of what happened to him. I did not like Shawn Wei new drama Nice to Meet You. it was pretty boring. I dropped it. I ff up to episode 33 as I want to see what happened after the engagement is off. LOL

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Aoihachi - translated Cafe Funiculi Funicula 3 weeks ago using bad chinese raws. better raws are available now. Watch it.

Aoihachi has now translated - Perfect World - Live-action movie based on romance manga whose Tv Drama is also airing now.

RjgMan has translated SHINO CAN'T SAY HER OWN NAME

Watched ep 09-10 of Put Your Head - gonna bash it tomorrow.

CRICKET world cup within 1 and half month. Excited.

I have realised Either Sports or Elections create most energetic feelings in a human. Well it works for me.

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@outofthisworld This is for ALL is Well.
Most of human societies and communities were patriarchal by nature to begin with. So i don't think its reasonable to pinpoint Conscious views and idealism as he cause of what goes around in the a fictional tv drama trying hard to come of us a realistic happenings of a specific society.

The show is overly dramanti for its own good. As soon as you start to connect something happens which makes you see yeah this one surely is a fictional tv drama.
It does try to poke the society and its norms but i think writer saw it as too boring a script and added asian spices to make it interesting.

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Maybe you can specify which part you found dramatic.

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I've been toying with this idea for a while, and it's definitely still rough, but here goes: Like a lot of beanies, I've become weary of the female-lead-Candy-type. I'm loving the newer shows with stronger female characters, but those are still a rare breed (to me. Correct me if I'm wrong!). And so, long story short, if I were going to write a drama (I am not, sadly.), here's how it'd go:

Title: Escape from Candyland
Plot: A young, hardworking, naive girl lands herself a grueling part-time job in a candy delivery/courier store (do these exist in Korea? Anywhere? I do not know. It's ok though. This show will be a little over-the-top because its me here). The conditions are AWFUL at this candystore, called Candyland, but they pay her a lot. Little does she know, they are relying on her naivety.
Enter: a rookie cop (hey, Jang Dong-yoon, what's up). He can have an experienced boss if needs be. The store is under investigation for being a front for [something awful I dont know] and the cops are assigned to the case. Our young female lead becomes an informant for the cops. The experience causes her to grow as a person, make use of her grit and spunk, and find her voice. (In no way do these cops save her. It's more that she saves them). Together they expose the crime and of course fall in love. Later she becomes an investigative reporter.

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...What do you mean, you are not writing it? :o
Now I want to watch this K-drama or read the fanfic! :)

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if i ever do, ill let you know <3 <3 <3

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(In no way do these cops save her. It's more that she saves them). Heh, and the cops think they are saving her all along. Until it becomes painfully obviously to them that it's the other way around and they FINALLY get it. Brilliant, anothernicole wants to join the woodalchi. We're kindred spirits already, Faith, you know.

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FAITH YOU KNOW. <3 <3 <3 and yes you are exactly right: the cops think they are saving her and then AH-AA-AAAHHH they have a moment of clarity (maybe with sunbeams coming through the clouds) where they realize she is no longer the naive Candy she was; she is a proper heroine, here to stay, and they are helpless without her.

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@leetennant, sounds like a drama up your alley. Not a potted plant at all.

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Thanks for tagging.
My Quest for Agency in kdramas is my new thing.

Speaking of, have you watched any more Avenger's Social Club yet?

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@leetennant, re: BRC/ASC. We’ve hit a lull in my kdrama group. We’re all too busy! But hopefully, summer will bring us back together!

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I love that she's literally selling Candy but it's all just a front for something deeper and more insidious.

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;)

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Please write this drama! It is brilliant and I would relish each part as the story unfolds and our ex-Candy grows up.

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thanks for the vote of confidence! if i ever do, yall will be the firsts to know <3

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i like strong women but i'm annoyed with the way they are sometimes portrayed. In Cdramas, strong women are downright fierce and always in a bad mood, surly, and out to destroy the ego of everyone they see. In kdramas, the women are a bit less feral but they still can be nasty for no good reason and by the time we understand their background and why they are so nasty, we don't care because they've already turned us off. At least they turn me off. The type i really dislike is the manic pixie dream girl teenager type who is supposedly both troubled and cute. She always ends up endangering folks with her stupid dangerous behavior.

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Hi Everyone! ..... I hope you are all doing well today.

Question for my fellow Beanies regarding text messages: I've seen more than once in kdramas where a person sends a text to someone and the sender knows when and if the text message has been read by the recipient. Is this an included feature on certain phones? Or is there some program/app you have to install that allows you to know when text messages have been read? ....... I was with two other friends this week and Friend 1 brought this up. Friend 2 claimed that he had never heard about this feature being available. During the whole conversation I was thinking to myself, "But I've seen it in a kdrama! I think this feature does exist!" I seriously don't know though. What I do know is that this does not happen with my phone or anyone else's phone that I know of. Thanks dear Beanies!!

My Fellow Citizens - Nice editing job this week ....... and funny, as always.

The Fiery Priest - I watched the episodes where the nun returns to her expert gambling ways and the young priest is wears a suit like he's a member of SHINee! They were both great!

Doctor Prisoner - While watching this I suddenly had the thought that someone should write a drama where both Choi Won-young and Shin Sung-rok go head-to-head as villains!

Confession - Up to episode 9 and the whole time I'm anxious that something terrible is going to happen to anyone of our four main characters! That, plus every time Choi Do-hyun opens anything!! And why oh why is he investigating dark places all by himself?? Good show, though!

Her Private Life - Ok, so, Kim Jae-wook ....... I get it now.

That's all for now. Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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re: Kim-Jae-wook -- right?!??!?! same.

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If you have an iPhone, all iMessages have this feature unless the person has their β€œread receipts” turned off. It will say right under the message either β€œSent” or β€œRead” with a timestamp next to it.

Most independent messenger apps also have this feature, like Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp. Drama characters probably are using KakaoTalk (or some app meant to look like Kakao) and I’m sure it also has this feature.

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Ah, ok. Got it. Thanks!

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I can only speak regarding iPhones, but it is a setting you can choose. I personally have it off, but I believe showing β€œread receipts” is the default. https://www.iphonelife.com/content/how-to-turn-read-receipts-specific-conversations-only

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Thanks! Now I know this does exist!

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Yes, my phone lets me know, if I use messenger or the ever present Kakao Talk to send a message.

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Thanks! I can't believe I didn't know this information!

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LINE program has the sign system when a receiver reads, the sender gets 'read' sign. I have never installed the Read sign system so this must come as a package of LINE. I believe that the program recognize when a receiver read it and the read sign is automatically sent to the sender. I guess if LINE( I think it is Japanese) has this, Cacao talk( Korean?) must have this as well.

Kim Jae wook-- ( Spoiler alert)-I love his smarky sneaky devilish smile when he discovered her other profession.

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LINE worked really well as a translator - when we were in japan, my nephew would type something in japanese on LINE to my husband's iPhone, and he'd get it in english... worked vice versa.

i didn't have LINE installed then, but i also have a samsung, so i'm not sure it would've worked the same on my phone. they both had iPhones...

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Hey koran, (on my phone) Messenger shows when a message is read. Regular text only shows "delivered."

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FB's Messenger does show the "read" after you open the thread... as does LINE.

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Kim Jae-Wook's shoulders and sweaters. Enough said. Although i do think Lee Soo Hyuk has great shoulders ...but i digress.

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Characters in Kdramas nearly always use Kakaotalk for text messaging. It used to be a PPL around six years or so ago, but I don't know if it is still a PPL, as it is a VERY popular and common app in Korea.

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Almost all Korean people have kakaotalk and I had to put one in on my cel. And I started to get PPL on front page which I can't seem to get rid of.

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I have Kakaotalk only because all my Korean friends are using it.

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**** WARNING GRAPHIC DISCUSSION ****

It is hard to believe that the fictional crimes in Neighborhood Lawyer Jo 2 pale by comparison to the latest reports from South Korea. This week’s news stories are stomach wrenching appalling behavior which appears to have deep roots in the privileged classes.

We were aware of the drugs, underage/prostitution, drugging women, rape, illicit sex videos, etc. But now some of the victims and workers associated with the club scene have come forward to tell reporters their stories. The celebrity chat group allegedly bragged about committing gang rape and going on overseas sex tours. An undercover writer and pastor shared their observations of underaged runaways getting lured into prostitution. They were used to the point of being broken; one had symptoms of a soldier’s PTSD and another had so many forced abortions she had to have her uterus then she was tossed away like trash. One friend of a runaway stated that after awhile, some simply go β€œmissing.”

It seems that this criminal activity was part of systematic process. Drug users were taught how to bleach their hair and/or remove it in order to pass NIS drug screening tests. There was a mobile app to pay and pick up one’s illegal drugs without ever meeting the drug dealer.

But the most sinister story was from a club worker. He stated he was part of an β€œincinerator” crew that would be called to VVIP lounges or hotel rooms to get rid of all evidence of crimes (blood, drugs, needles, etc.) He said one time he arrived a room to see a man, apparently a doctor, filming a drugged woman having convulsions because she was being bled out of her veins to near death. Later, he would then start a transfusion. There were allegations that club VVIPs were making snuff films for their personal entertainment.

It is now being inferred that the evidence of these heinous crimes are leading investigators to some of the wealthiest families in Korea (second and third generation sons/grandsons of major corporations). If true, Korean society is at a crossroads of whether truth & justice will prevail over power & corruption.

When I read these articles, a couple of things came to mind. I recalled many actress interviews where they say that they are solely focused on their career; that they have no time or desire to date; that they would rather SNS or stay at home with their friends. I can now see why if it was an open secret in the entertainment/club scene that it dangerous for a woman in her 20s or 30s to be a targeted victim since the perpetrators of these crimes do not even value women as second class citizens, but as prey or prizes for their perversions. I also noted that South Korea’s marriage rate has declined to a record low. Marriage is often associated with economic factors more than social norms. In addition, the birth rate has plunged to 1.05. This means that Korean women are rebelling against their paternalistic society duty to get married and have children...

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before the age 30. Rather, many career women find their independence and career more appealing than being a housewife and mother. When books are published on this topic, there usually is a public male backlash against such feminism. I wonder if there is going to be major South Korean culture clash between the sexes as a result of these stories.

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I don't think it's only korean problem, but almost every country has this kind of backstage of their show. Look at France where Dominique Strauss-Kahn almost became a president and he is a huge human "pig". I'm glad that women got their power to be rebellious against patrimonial system which is getting it's Roman empire turn.

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Happy weekend Beanies!

I survived my first week on the job and am currently enjoying my first Friday afternoon off work. Quite strange, when you consider that until this Monday I was at home and free practically all the time, and yet it feels as if Monday is ages ago. I hope I will get used to this new lifestyle very fast, because my Friday afternoons this spring are already booked with all sorts of errands and appointments to save on leave days, so sadly I cannot catch up on rest or K-drama’s then.

Speaking of K-drama’s, I was able to watch 15 minutes of RIABB on some days, despite being short on time and energy, this method might help me to finish RIABB and binge older K-drama’s in the future. Then I can watch the ones that are airing or captivate me more during weekends. At the moment that would be Her Private Life and Special Labor Inspector Jo.

Or I could be realistic and admit to myself that I am probably going to get behind on the airing ones starting this weekend, because I am not experienced enough (yet) to watch 4 episodes in a week, let alone in a weekend. ;)

@korfan I made an error, I am juggling not 3 but 4 K-drama’s at the moment, I completely forgot that I am watching Modern Farmer with my friend as well. :)

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Adjusting to a new schedule does take some time. But don't worry, I think you'll do just fine!

Fitting in drama-watching can get a little difficult at times, what with all the real-life duties and stuff! I'm always behind on a drama or two .... sometimes all of them! But woohoo, you're juggling 4! :)

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Thank you for the encouraging words!

Whenever beanies (like you) talk about what they are watching (juggling), I always assume they are up to date with all shows at all times. It is a relief to know that my K-drama Seniors and I face the same struggle ;)

I usually watch a drama with my friend whenever our schedules match (which can take a few months per show) and binge an older one on my own. Until recently I did not allow myself to start a new show if I had not yet finished the previous one.

Kind of impossible to keep that up if you decide to throw two airing dramas into the K-drama mix :p

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Congrats on the new job! Are you liking it?

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Thank you! So far I am carefully optimistic. I have not done much work yet because they are training me from level zero in small steps, so I cannot say yet whether it will be fun/managable. The field does interest me, so I would not be surprised if this ends up being my realistic version of a dream job.

However, I am getting used to the company rules and its many perks, which is a relief. I even got adopted by a group of extroverted colleagues for lunch dates ;)

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Oh, that's the dream. That is awesome to hear.

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Great! So glad for you @turtuallysarcastic. Having colleagues to rally around or go to is so important to happiness at work. I was going to wait a couple of weeks before asking you the same question that @Isa has asked.

By about a month or two, you'll have seen and heard enough to gather if it's a good place and with potential for you to want to stay on. Aah ... in a weird way, I wish I could go back to those early days. As a newbie, there were many ahjummas willing to give me advice and take care of me. So much fun learning the ropes and making obvious progress. Well... the different stages of work life ... there's something to enjoy at every stage. All the best!

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Make sure to ask me again in a few weeks! :p It would be good for me to reflect once in a while ;)

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I changed my internet provider and it gave me tools to transform my old regular tv into android tv, in other word I can watch my dramas on TV! I still haven't renew my Netflix subscription yet, with these never ending tasks I don't think I will hv time for TV. However, I did sneak a little by checking Nirvana in Fire, boy oh boy, I didn't realize how beautiful the cinematography of this drama. God pls help me with my assignment, I really miss my dramas and I want to watch my oppas and geges on bigger screen πŸ™
I swear Wang Kai look ten times more handsome on bigger screen.

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No need to swear, I'd believe you about Wang Kai. 😍😍

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Was anyone else watching "He is Psychometric" torn to bits this week?
Aaargh, how is it possible to love a drama and hate it at the same time?
I love that they went so dark but i hate the road they took to get there.
Are there any prayer circles for Hyung's happy ending (well, almost happy if there is to be no Ji Soo) yet, and if there are, can I join? If there aren't, I'm creating one, so feel free to join.
I feel like "Her Private Life" is perfectly timed now, so I can distract myself from my sad little puppy An and his desperately-in-need-of-more-hugs hyung, with hilariously dorky Ryan Gold.

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Many of us are missing Ji Soo and some are in denial. We've been gathering after the episodes on @raonah's fan wall.

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I am in denial. I refuse. Bring her back.

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Oh dear, remind me not to start watching HiP if beloved characters are going to fade away!!!

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It's been so goo though. I may change my mind after the last two episodes.

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*good

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Happy OT 601!

I actually posted on OT 597 asking for luck from beanies about the ticketing for BTS' fanmeet, and mygoodness me did it work! πŸ’œπŸ‡ πŸ’œπŸ‡ πŸ’œπŸ‡ IT DID! Got the results a few days ago. Thank you for all the luck you sent, SO grateful! πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ There's still a few challenges to overcome but that will be for later.

Happy weekend Beanies!

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Woohoooo! Congratulations on getting your tickets, that's thrilling!

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Thank youuuuuu! Lottery ticketing is uuuuuggggghhh

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I am so happy for you! Make sure to sing along on my behalf ! :D

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Thanks! Will definitely do!

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Congrats @neener! May the challenges melt away in the face of your determination!

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Thank youuuuuu GB! I really hope so!

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I'm playing paintball this weekend and also join a paintball competition. It's my first time playing, hopefully I won't be 'killed' so soon πŸ˜†.

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Have fun!

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enjoy!!

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Good luck!

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That sound like a lot of fun...aaand too much action for a weekend :p I'll cheer you on from my cozy K-drama sofa ;)

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wear padded clothing! my daughter got little bruises where she got "shot"....

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All the best in shooting and not getting shot! I wish I was a couple of decades younger and that Paintball game places were more common around here. I would really love to go around and shoot paint. Sounds like the very thing for stress relief!!!

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maybe people can get older groups together to play this... heh heh hehhh... but i think i wouldn't be a very good sport when i get HIT.
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LOL. I may come up with new swear words that no one has ever heard before!?

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It is a good stress relief. I think I prefer target shooting, less movement and I can focus on hiting the target 🎯. Haha

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Have fuuuun!

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Hi all:
Rainy and gloomy outside.
When will this winter end?
I'm determined to spend this entire weekend finally finishing a book that has been bottlenecking all my other WIPs for the past six months. So maybe rain will help me get it over with.
Dramas:
Favorite kdrama now is A Beautiful World. Ah the stuff we social-climbing helicopter mothers do for kids we totally think are psychopaths.
Favorite c-drama now is Pushing Hands. I love this drama. Am not a real fan of modern cdramas but this one is seriously good. Right balance of levity, romance, and business. During the first 8 or so episodes, i wasn't sure i would continue but am totally loving it now. Same desperate second lead as in Destiny's Love. I guess that actress has cornered the market on desperate lovelorn heroine in her dramas.
Still liking My Fellow Citizens. It's sometimes surprising, although this week wasn't as funny as previously. Loving our villainess still.
Finding Her Private Life a bit meh. Not liking the jealous possessive women tropes times two. Also, in a drama like this we should be discovering the personality of the office staff. But the found family at the office is kinda blah.
The thrillers. Omigosh, where to start?
Kill It is confusing and way too full of stupid decisions and coincidences to thrill me. But that doesn't KILL my watching IT.
Confession is good as usual, but I confess that i am not a fan of spy/weapon intrigue.
That Psychometric Guy will drive me psycho if hyung ends up getting caught. I am really liking how unpredictable and well-plotted this drama is.
Doctor Prisoner is fun and hectic. I don't think i've ever seen a revenge drama like where the protagonist's machinations totally depend on his knowing before hand what the evil responses his enemies will enact. In effect, the big bads are digging their own graves because their cruel scheming is always anticipated and they end up going where the protag wants them to because he trusts their worsts instincts and has planned for that contingency.Sometimes it's downright exhausting but never boring. So no need for IVs or to imprison me in a hospital for mayhem exhaustion.
All Is Well -- Cdrama. So good but it was causing me too much stress. Very realistic family life issues and only four or five episodes in and i could not stand the youngest sibling. So...dropped.

Kinda dropped The Banker also because i was bored with all the plotting. I would so have preferred mere math and record-keeping without all the angst.

That's about it. Have a great weekend, all.

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Ah...I should try the Pushing Hands.

All is Well - why is it stressing you? As for Ming Yu, she's actually my least favorite character in a sense. I hate/love the father and brothers because while they are terrible, they are also very interesting as characters. I see forms of their behavior and personality in reality

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I worry too much about all the family stress because it is so realistic. I can't be stressing about folks so much.

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The family issues are real and especially so in Chinese families.

In this show, they provide a contributing factor for Dad's behavior. Even without it, older folks are often seen as a 'disruptive force' at best or annoyance at worst. I saw this video clip of a Japanese old man who repeatedly and deliberately stopped the train doors from closing. Is he ill? What's the underlying issue? Apparently, in ageing societies, Rougai(annoying old person), a term coined by the Japanese is keenly felt.

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Annoying old person paired with greedy ungrateful person and ignorant wife. I just couldn't deal.

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Yes to what you've stated about Doctor Prisoner! Protagonist has anticipated everything it seems, although this week he said he was going to "change the plan". Who knows if it'll work. Well, actually, I'm waiting to see if it'll work because I'm an episode behind. I'll find out later tonight or later this weekend.

Have a good weekend also!

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There was this one scene where our hero and the big bad were facing each other against a big glass wall and all i could think was "battle of the hair peaks." Look out for it.

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Heh! Will do!

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Hi Carole,
Doctor Prisoner is fun and hectic, but I'm getting tired of Wilson's disease as a medical pardon for crooks and ulterior motives.

Are you watching Her Private Life? it's my favorite K-drama at the moment.

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Am watching but it seems as if it'll be predictable. My only hope is that there will be some good thematic layers on the found and adopted family.

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Did you watch A WIFE'S CREDENTIALS (2012)? If not I'd recommend it based on your comments on A BEAUTIFUL WORLD.
I think this type of dramas has become JTBC's bread and butter.

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A WIFE'S CREDENTIALS is such an interesting drama.

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A good drama to pair with SKY Castle. Also, a fair number of 'A Wife's Credentials' cast was also in the lurid, operatic 'Secret Love affair' (2014). Also involving higher education shenanigans, now that I think of it!

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I'm missing my fave duo PD Ahn Pan-seok and writer Jung Sung-joo (A WIFE CREDENTIALS, SECRET LOVE AFFAIR, HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE etc).
It's too bad PD Ahn's new writing partner does not have half of Sung Jung-joo's talents but she is new so maybe there is hope.

WIFE CREDENTIALS, SKY CASTLE, SECRET LOVE AFFAIR, BEAUTIFUL WORLD all from JBTC.

These duo PD/writer of "Beautiful World" gave us REBIRTH (2005) aka Resurrection and THE DEVIL (2007) aka Mawang. I'm not surprised at the quality of the drama and I hope that JTBC will keep them.

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I loved secret love affair. I never saw resurrection. I might try. And yay for JTBC. Always love them.

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ahhh, Ms. Carole... come visit Seattle - spring has arrived and it's very pleasant here...

i will be your tour guide, should you decide to visit!
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I should. i hear it rains a lot there and i am a lover of rain. But isn't that a city for young trendy folks. I'm gonna be 60 soon. Not sure if i would fit in.

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alot of the new folks are those young tech trendies - but there are a lot of us native PNW dwellers that are Boomers!

Seattle boasts salt water bay, fresh water lakes, mountain views (easy - difficult hiking trails), a fabulous assortment of restaurant cuisines from around the world, an active arts culture (visual, musical, theatrical)... but, yes... really horrible traffic now.

for visitors, Link Light Rail works wonders to get downtown from the airport, and to various parts of the city...

geeze, you'd think i work for the tourism department -- nope, i've just lived here all of my life!
; )

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