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Open Thread #605

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Happy Friday beanies! this week all i've wanted to watch is light and fluffy dramas. So Her Private Life (obviously) is on the watchlist.
I caught the first two eps of Secret life of my secretary. I want to love it, but im a bit put off by the mistaken identity trope. so im hesitant to watch anymore. i want them to resolve the mistake and move on with them taking on their foes together. will you let me know when that happens and then i'll pick it back up.
I havent started abyss - but after the latest recap maybe thats a good thing.
I also started watching Cdrama Well Intended Love. its so thin on plot its transparent but im really enjoying the chemistry between the leads.
Have a great weekend everyone

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I am liking The Secret Life of my Secretary quite a bit. I am having trouble with The Abyss (just like everyone else).

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I would recommend trying a bit more of Secret Life- the pair are quite good together. But I'm mainly pushing Angel's Last Mission I hadn't ever watched L but was willing to try it for Shin hye-sun. It was better then I expected.

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I'm also into light and fluffy dramas lately. I've watched Her Private Life of course, but i'm currently loving My Absolute Boyfriend. If you're not put off by robot romance, I recommend it, it's getting better every episodes imo.
I've also watched Angel's Last Mission : Love. I had really NO expectation, but it wasn't THAT bad. If you're put off by mediocre acting, i don't recommend it though. I wouldn't say it's light and funny, the first episodes are pretty "dark", but the main male character is the whole comic relief, and it seems he will soon change the whole "dark" atmosphere of the drama.

I've also gave up Abyss... I'm sad Park Bo Young didn't pick a better project.

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Thanks @mary. Hi Everyone and Happy OT!

I'm happy to report that with the latest crop of shows, the slump has recede somewhat. I'm exceedingly hopeful, more with 2 of the 3 shows that I've picked up, but that's so much better than feeling dread that I'm wasting my time!

One Spring Night - Same Writer, Kim Eun and same Director An Pan-seok as Something in the Rain/Pretty Noona … it's no wonder we see so much similarity in sound, feel and look in this show. It also has the same Male Lead and the same actress playing girl's mum (Gil Hae-yeon). However this time it's not a shrieking mother but a stubborn, controlling father that the Female Lead and her 2 sisters have to contend with. As with Pretty Noona, but to a slightly smaller degree, the OST is an English song that is repeated on and off, and quite loudly. However it's not as tiresome as 'Stand by Your Man'… fingers-crossed.

I'm glad to be able to say, though, that Jung Hae In here is a character I like more than his character in Pretty Noona, and the girls' mum is much nicer. Another similarity is the dilemma in whether the OTP can and should get together in the face of, once again, social disapproval. Should the Female Lead, Jeong In, dump her long-time boyfriend, (who thus far seems like an OK guy) and start to date a single dad, Ji Ho, who also happens to be in the same bunch of basketball guys as her current boyfriend. Awkward! To make it more complicated, FL's own younger sister is gunning for Ji Ho as well, and won't be pleased that her older sister beat her to him, while still officially dating her old boyfriend. We can expect major disapproval all around. (I can hear Jeong In being called greedy and selfish already!)

Bearing in mind that I jettisoned Pretty Noona less than half way into the series, I will continue with cautious optimism, ready to do a bunk if it gets too annoying.

Angel's Last Mission - Like Absolute Boyfriend the vibes of this one is more positive, ie, it feels less likely that I'll drop this show. I hope Yeon Soo gets out of her distrustful and unfriendly state before long, because I want to like her. Still, it's easy to be invested in her story. The angel, of course, is too cute and charming to dislike.

It's become more interesting in Ep 2 (3/4) with Lee Dong Gun's character in the picture with an unknown agenda. More on her cousins and the big bad aunt. The energetic bickering and taming of the shrew begins and is rather a lot of fun. I look forward to growth in characters all around, and the revelation of who caused the car accident.

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Absolute Boyfriend - Started OK and getting better. This is one show where it should be OK to have second lead syndrome, right? Right??? Thank goodness it's getting less creepy and stalkerish and less full of bright smiles from 09. I'm liking Minah more and more in this role.

Abyss - I did say I'd give it more episodes. One more to watch before I decide if I'll continue. I think it is improving but still lacks the 'X' factor that makes it compelling. I'm happy that Se Yeon is smart, and I like her teamwork with Dong Chul. I do wish we could get all the rules and instructions on Abyss upfront so that we can anticipate the next turn of events.

Still watching Le Coup De Foudre although it's more sparkling couple camaraderie is lacking in the later episodes. We're in the separation phase again, which I guess is to be expected in a 35 episode show! It's kinda slow but at least the characters are growing and improving slowly too, and the pairings are all in place for the happy ending.

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I think Le Coup de Foudre really improved during the last 3 or 4 episodes. I am surprised by how much I like Zhang Yu Jian's portrayal of Yan Mo. He's brought a sweetness and vulnerability to the emotionally reserved, proper, genius character that was unexpected. The lead female character isn't as awful as most of the female leads are, although I still dislike the babyish sounding voice. However, since she's carrying on a constant, amusing, sotto voce monologue about what she's really thinking, I kind of like her. Now that she and Yan Mo are finally clearing up all their misunderstandings, I am enjoying it much more. Still hate the "hey! There's a white wedding veil over the camera!" cinematography choice, as it makes everything less visually pleasing, and I now utterly despise Wu Yi, for how she is letting Guan Chao pamper her, and talk to the non-existent baby. It has utterly ruined her character for me, and if I were writing the drama, she would never, ever end up with him. He'd walk away without a backward glance, because that's what she deserves.

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You’re so sweet. Thank you!

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When I watched the first episodes of One Spring Night, there was a mental checklist in my head (exploding):
1. Woman in a boring relationship.
2. Woman pressured to get married.
3. One controlling parent.
4. Awkward group dinner scene
5. Awkward karaoke scene
6. Symbolism in the weather scene

Sure feels like a Pretty Noona reboot.

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Yes! Absolutely a reboot! Even the way the music kept cropping up and loudly.

I wonder why ... did Pretty Noona not scratch the itch for this Director and Writer and they just had to try again with the same theme, same style, ...??? I guess I'll just have to summon some staying power to see if they have learnt from the mistakes of Pretty Noona, or whether they'll even rehash those!!!

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When the show was first announced, I thought the story was about a couple who was in the midst of falling out of love/trying to re-spark their relationship. It may get to that point, but I am not so sure. The only real difference is that one of the leads is a single parent.

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+1 And I also thought TG it's not 'Stand by Your Man'. But why they had to even get a same actress to play mom? At least Jung Hae-in looks cuter than ever (even has cute son).

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Wow. Sounds like it. Glad I have to wait on the episodes so I can see how it turns out.

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I had wanted to see Pretty Noona but by the time it arrived on netflix so many folks were annoyed with it ..so i avoided it. I like this drama but am not feeling heroine. There are no shades to the character. All is drear and depression. i do like nuance. but since i love a good noona romance, i'll jump in. i dislike the sister. very intrusive personality.

I might watch absolute boyfriend. it didn't grab me.

Abyss is my current crack because i'm liking the world building and that ressurection crystal. Hope it doesn't disappoint me. Should i have watched Possessed, btw? Now i'm in the ood for reviving serial killers? Was it good? Did you see it?

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Unfortunately, I did not feel drawn to Possessed and did not watch it. Why are you in the mood for reviving serial killers? Confession was my last foray into investigating what was somewhat a serial killing
or a killing made to look like it was by a serial killer ... but there was no resurrection there!! Heheheh!

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I think abyss has me started on this serial killer thing. i tried watching the first episode on netflix and it was a hard watch. i think i'm thinking about the worldbuilding, and i think i heard possessed was also about serial killer and supernatural stuff.

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Possessed is good for 12 episodes and terrible for the last 4. Don't do it to yourself

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oh dear. okay. thanks.

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I second @cloggie. Possessed gave me drama commitment phobia.

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That is funny I just happened to see this. It's been paused on Netflix for a few weeks at ep 12 at my house, and have been trying to convince my mini completionist side to 'just finish it already' so now I dont feel so bad. Thank you

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Possessed I mean

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It's worth a bean though. (Disclaimer, haven't seen it but enjoy fan wall rants).

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I’d watch the closing credits of the last episode. The last few seconds give a glimpse of future possibilities.

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Can we never ever talk about the last 4 episodes again?

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Well now I'm curious.i think I started to withdraw about the time she became celibate. I'm so shallow

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What 4 episodes? Didn't it end at 12?
That works for me - I just want to erase them from my memory...
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Wow! Really guys, is it that bad?
I was just about to start it

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The best way to describe it is that everything you love about the first half of the drama, they destroy in the final quarter.

Depending on your view on drama watching, it might be worth a look for the great first half of the series, or should be avoided like the plague because of general annihilation.

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Fingers-crossed for ONE SPRING NIGHT too. It's a bit hard to get PRETTY NOONA out of my head since most of the cast are back in this noona version too.
I can't get into 99% of K-drama rom.com but this is the type of romance I can get into. Slow burn melodramatic.
I like the ost so far. Here is hoping for more so one doesn't get to be overplayed through out the whole drama.

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Yes, please ... may there be several nice songs to listen to and not just the 1 or 2!!!

I do like the immediate connection between the OTP (on his side more than on hers) and how they were honest with each other off the bat. However the joke is that they don't want to lie but they have to and they do!!!

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Elections this week around the world -

Trump can win 2nd term. Advantage Trump.

Right wing has swiftly made space into the heart of people.
Data analytics and SNS giving Right wing much boost and attention.
Whether someone likes it or not - Right wing caught the opportunity marching fast ahead all over world. Global atmosphere is assisting Trump.
Anti or Pro abortion is more like a ploy to polarise people. Right wing goes well with conservative religious bigots. Though Duterte plays clearly plays another form of game. India's elections had their own moments. heh - Australia and coal.

This wave won't subside for a while. Atleast not for next 5 years.

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It's gotten so extreme all over the place. Extreme nationalism.

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Same here in India. Nationalism and Hindutva (um..the ideology that places the interests of those of the dominant religion, first) saw the previous government win by a large margin in the elections. Disappointing, to say the least.

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We're fighting the same wave of hate in France. So far we're still holding but I don't know how long that's gonna last :(

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I hope you're wrong (but I'm very afraid you're right)

However it plays, the people at the top won't be as affected as the rest of us.

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All I can response with is:
:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

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Any beanies watching Save Me 2? Is Kim Min-cheol supposed to be the hero because until episode 3 he doesn't look and act like one.
I haven't watched the first season, but from what I heard the church is the villain, no? I'm rooting for the pastor, I think he's genuinely a nice person. Maybe this time the writer is planning to make the pastor as the hero.

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It goes better in episode 4: you'll start to se his vulnerable side and discover that few people care about him a lot.
I don't expect a radical change like going from the jerk to the hero, but rather a massive slap to wake him up when he will realize how much the things he did to people, even the closest of him, have damaged his relationship with them to the point they can't trust him for the 1st time in his life when he will be right.
For me the pastor is on the elder Choi's side, not sure he will able to leave that side even if he never really signed for it and feels reluctant.

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After watching this week's episodes, I share the same opinion as @coolgirl
Min Cheol can't become a noble hero we root for, so his character development will be about trying to save his sister and the villagers from Elder Choi. He irritates me because I knew many guys like him but he's the outsider that can't and won't fall for Elder Choi's manipulation. Unlike the pastor who's starting to fall for his traps.

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I like the MC actor. Hope he changes/has growth over time/episodes.

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Don't forget his husky voice.... :)

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He's hot! 😄

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@coolgirl @mango I just finished episode 4, I still cant find any redeeming qualities in Min-cheol except that he's hot. It's also the reason why I started Save Me 2 in the first place. I've never seen the actor in anything before. He won't be a noble hero, but I'm surprised he's written so despicable.
I'm convinced the pastor has fondness for Min-cheol's sister and I think it will play apart in his decision to take side/trust MC. I still have to watch ep 5 and 6, both of you seem really sure that the pastor will be on Elder Choi's side whether he wants it or not.

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I'm not sure he will be completely on his side. He will be manipulated and think what he's doing is God's will. I believe he will find out the truth and break free from Elder Choi's manipulations.

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I personally get more attached to him when i saw the owner's market hug him. It was so unexpected and something very warm.
I was moved too by his scene with his mother and his sister. Such harsh scene but so realistically played! It was clear that his violence is linked to his incapacity to express properly his feelings but that he cared a lot about the two women.
I expect to see more of those little moments in the future, more reveal about different sides of his personality. That might be the way through which he would be more likable.
I can't tell more about the pastor, it would be spoil the effect but there's definitively major twists coming ep 5 and 6.

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I don't know...he took the money. He knew it's young-son's hard earned money and he still said "mom gave it to me, so it's mine now". What an a**!
I still think he probably cares about his mother and sister. He tries to stay away from young son as far as he can.
About the pastor, I'm sure the chairman was also planted by elder choi to manipulate the pastor. I'm curious about elder choi's connection with the church. He's obviously a thug, why the church accept him as one of their influential people. They even let him build a church and send their young pastor to him.

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@manohira He has an addiction to gambling and games, that why he got so excited by money.
And i agree with your observations about the church: so far the group of elder Choi seem more like mafia/gang but their connection to the church is real: they also gave him money through the pastor that Min Cheol stole.
However I trust the writer to explain more their connection along the way.

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I'm actually hoping he don't change that much, it's quite exiciting to have different kind of lead in drama, plus him being jerk means he will not hold back taking it at Elder Choi.

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That's quite a good point: his flaws make him also the best person to bring down the con man and its gang. But he should amend his attitude at least with his family and friends.

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I am going to wear this song out. I'm too obsessed with I Love You Too by Drunken Tiger and Yoo Mirae.
I need to go back and watch the videos that @mango posted.
If anyone has any recs from their discography let me know .

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Did you watch their live on Yoo Hee Yeol's Sketchbook? For some reason I can't post a few videos on my fan wall so here is the link: https://youtu.be/htUO1nYnYSc

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Love it.

Have you ever had the chance to see them live?

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Sadly no. I wish the next time they come to Europe I will be able to see them.

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Happy Weekend Beanies!

Sleep. Sleeeeeeeeeep.
This week I realized that I really want to have a free trial JinguBot. Eom Dada and My Absolute Boyfriend viewers might have been creeped out by the romantic implications for the right reasons, but a relationship is much more than just mushy or sexy times. My practical self cheered when our female lead decided to spend an unplanned day off having a cleaning date at home. JinguBot is up for anything she wants and he has the strength, so why not?

In my case it would be nice if he could take care of my chores and run my errands for me on weekdays, and impersonate me during weekend activities. In that case I could just get off work, talk to my supportive Jingubot about work and watch K-dramas with him until he tells me it is time to sleep. Just one week free trial until the end of May, that is all I need. I am willing to cover him with stickers from head to toe.

I hope to start My Absolute Boyfriend and many other K-dramas soon, after I have hopefully caught up on Her Private Life and Special Labor Inspector Jo the following weekends. And sleep of course.

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Hello all:

Hope everyone is doing well.
I feel it's me complaining about one thing after another but here goes. Our landlord has been trying to sell this house and now we heard we must leave soon. Ahme. Not the kinda thing to hear when one is battling the cold from hell and heavy-duty insomnia, but that's life i guess. Am trying to see clear. Do we buy a small little house in our present town to grow old in? Do we decide to pick up and move out of state to live near older son? Do we rent? Do we buy? Ah me.

Dramas:

Abyss: One of my drama addictions. I just love the premise of this show. Am having second lead syndrome with cop wannabe-boyfriend because he really is a good guy and he's pretty involved in some of the scenes. Why did our heroine resurrect with the face of the other prosecutor? Why did Abyss slip into Big Bad's pocket when owner died? why doesnt it back return to Min now of its own accord since Min is the true owner? Why does temporary owner/serial killer have to be dead for it to return?

My First First Love -- trying to watch this on netflix

Beautiful World -- awaiting finale of the best drama ever

Her Private Life -- Glad that lost/abandoned child angst was resolved quickly.

Secret Life of My Secretary -- Fun but i so wish kdrama heroines would stop lying cause they get themselves in such messes.

One Spring Night -- Am liking this. I have a like/wtf idea of this actress. Something about her seems "locked in" for lack of a better term. She tries but...

Shady Mother-in-law. -- i was so loving this and ready to jump back into dailies when the old stolen child trope popped up and i had to peace out.
Chinese Drama:
My True Friend. Just love this drama! Deng Lun and Zhu YiLong -- two of the hottest guys ever. It's a slice of life romance and fun.

Princess Silver-- Liking this but i dislike the main male lead. There is arrogant prince and there is arrogant prince and he turned me off the first time i saw him. Small petty reason to hate a character but...

Well-intentioned Love-- trying to watch this now that its on netflix.

Saw two great movies last week on amazonprime. Misbehavior and A Stray Goat. Both highly recommended.

Happy weekend all.

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I read in soompi regarding Princess Silver is sadder than Goodbye My Princess. 😱 So far, the only thing I like is Male Lead sleeping. The soldiers carrying the bed with him sleeping. 😂🤣 It was so funny. I watched it twice. I am trying to like him but he need to work on his emotions. I can feel he love, be jealous, or sad for female lead. At least, he have angry part down but not quite. LOL

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That's the scene that made me annoyed. It's supposed to be sexy arrogant but it just felt rude to me.

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That is hard decision to make -"Do we buy a small little house in our present town to grow old in? Do we decide to pick up and move out of state to live near older son? " I see people who have same concerns around me, and hope you find right answer for you.
So I should watch My True Friend?

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Younger son will need older son to care for him. And we're getting old. I'd like both sons to reconnect and get to know each other before we the parents age out. Will wee. My True Friend is slice of life romance mixed with the business genre. It's good. I'm not liking a current complication because i do have a thing against devious second lead females and with 48 episodes i suspect she could cause trouble.

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These are hard decisions. But I’m sure you will what is the best for your sons, ultimately. Fighting!

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Thank you

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My finals were last Wednesday, so tonight I am back on my daily language exchange (Korean) that I have been missing for the last semester.

I am watching Her Private Life (like!) Secret Life of my Secretary (like!) The Abyss (>.<) and My Absolute Boyfriend (like)

I am starting to move into the territory where I might be in Seoul by the end of the series. I hope I don't have a "regional" problem like you get with Netflix. They have actually had a show running like "The Abyss" and wouldn't give me the flipping subtitles because I was watching in Seoul.

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OMFG guys did you see the article about Han Ji Sun quitting The Secret Life of My Secretary after she assaulted a taxi driver?
I haven't been watching the drama, but I hope for the sake of the quality of the drama (and all the cast & crew) that her role was not that important for the story...

https://www.soompi.com/article/1326980wpp/han-ji-sun-to-step-down-from-the-secret-life-of-my-secretary-following-assault-case

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I believe she is the secretary of the main lead's uncle.

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some korean actors/idols (daughter of airline chaebol) definitely think they are actual royalty or something, don't they... there's too much emphasis on celebriety in south korea.

they're acting like our american president, for god's sake... buncha self-entitled spoiled BRATS.

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She was drunk. I'm always amazed watching people drinking so much in dramas. I wonder they do that in real life too?

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apparently they DO........

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Yes, and being drunk doesn't change ones personality it just remove inhibition, so she showed her true colors.

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Happy Friday everyone!

Perfume will air in about 10 days. I'm so excited. I've never been this excited for a drama nor have I followed updates for a drama that has yet to be aired. So this is a first for me. I don't know what my expectations are with the plot. I just hope I will be entertained. And it is Shin Sung Rok's first ever lead role! I have to watch it. Haha

So many new casting news this week. We have Lee Min Ho x Kim Go Eun and Hyun Bin x Son Ye Jin....and I'm excited for neither 🤣.

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Me too, me too! So excited. I think he's going to be funny and silly, like Dorky Hyuk. But I would love him to do a serious drama, take on a dark intense role with a lot of conflict, like Hyuk, but in the lead, this time, and he'll get the girl, who wouldn't hate him, but love him, please, please🤗

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Haha. Hyuk is one of a kind and I think its best to let that character be a good memory of our TLE days~ 🤣

Intense and comflicted role = his role in 'Thank You'. Have you watched Thank You?

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wow That was long ago - you have a good memory. It was good show.

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Heh. I just watched it recently this year, I have yet to finish it. It id melancholic, and the little girl is the heart of the show. And Gong Hyo Jin, she's lovely. I do question some of her decisions, but overall she's a good mother. I just hoped she went into a legal battle and sue the hospital, imo she could totally win since it was the hospital's fault. At least let the hospital cover any of her medical expenses, that's the least the hospital could do after such a huge blunder.

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Random question, beanies: if you had to pick one, would you rather have a drama with really good skinship moments or really good banter between the leads?

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Good banter 🥳

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Like in FIGHT MY WAY.. I am liking the bickering so much between Ae ra and Dong man. So clueless

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Banter with proper communication and smiles and great eye contact.

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GOOD BANTER!! I feel like this is why im over deok mi and ryan (or any leads in a rom com) after they got together. Much skinship less banter :/

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yes, it's definitely harder to keep a couple interesting without the tension of will-they-won't-they...that's why i always like romances with a strong underlying plot that isn't just the couple. it gives something to keep the couple talking about, bickering over, and provides more chances for cute moments :D

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That's my fellow citizens for me right now!!! Althought its rom-com, there's more substance and plot and shenanigans!!

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im still at the beginning of this show but i am loving it!

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Wait...mfc is a romcom? Haha. I thought it was along the lines of politics comedy 🤣

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@katakwasabi i don't know if it's *technically* a rom-com, but it has some rom-com elements. it's not quite political comedy, either...the politics (at least so far) haven't been that emphasized...it's a comedy of errors lol.

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@anothernicole lol. Comedy of errors is the best way to label it 🤣

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Perfect comment. All my top favorites have quite a strong underlying plot. But it took me about eight tears to notice this is what they have in common.

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I also prefer good banter! For me, Deok-mi and Ryan survived the get together phase with ep 11 having some of my favorite banter between them, but that specific side of their relationship has definitely been lacking with recent episodes being more emotional. I really wish rom-coms would balance that better.

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i agree so much. these later episodes are still cute to me, and i love that they are showcasing a healthy functional adult relationship, but i also really miss the back-and-forth <3

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Banter.

I don't like most of the skinship I see in dramas or I'm neutral towards them so I am definitely more inclined to wit and humor.

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i do think skinship is really hard to get right onscreen...so is banter, of course, but it seems like it's more noticeable when skinship isn't done well.

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i'm a banter girl, myself, but i confess i do get a little annoyed if there's NO skinship or if its not done well.

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It would depend of the drama. But if the main point of the story is the couple and their love, I would need both. Good banter makes me anticipate good skinship, and it's really disapointing when the couple can't deliver this part (like Put Your Head on My Shoulder).

If the main point of the story is something else like a big crime and the couple is just an added value to the story, I think their banter is more important.

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I agree with you 100% re PYHOMS. However, part of it was that I ended up disliking the way the FL acted towards the ML, and ended up not buying why a handsome, sweet, guy like him would fall for a girl who was going to bully and henpeck him for his entire life. He deserved so much better. The other issue was that although he's adorable, Lin Ye seemed visibly uncomfortable/unconvincing in the romantic scenes. He wasn't very good at expressing passion. Or maybe it's just that there was no chemistry between the leads. But whatever the reason, I ended up really disliking their pairing, and so that pretty much ruined the entire drama for me.

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Honestly, I found the both of them to be uncomfortable in those scenes. The actress wasn't moving, she was like a stone...

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In the Smile Has Left Your Eyes, my very favorite was the really playful skinship as they sat on the bed and removed each other's clothing but in a teasing way. Same with the kiss there. The playfulness was stronger than the sexuality and the chemistry of the two made for a beautiful, fun scene.

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i haven't seen that show, but i can totally imagine how powerful that could be. i am a big believer in "deliberate non-touching" being more powerful than actual skinship. forgive me if you've heard me say this before, but the US drama Pushing Daisies is the gold standard. The characters can't touch but still find a MILLION AMAZING WAYS to show chemistry and captivate the audience.

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Still salty about the cancellation of Pushing Daisies.

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same. forever.

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Banter. I love a fast paced witty dialogue.

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yes -- fast paced witty -- so much yes

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Banter. No competition. Good bickering and banter is sexier than PDL.

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I loved the initial banter in Temperature of Love, but ended up dropping it halfway in. Not enough of anything to keep me engaged there.

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It started so well.

I feel like I say this a lot.

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So I was thinking about this a lot...and i hesitate to say it...but does it sometimes seem like dramas are written only well enough to draw the audience in, and then sort of just coast from there. almost as if they have algorithm: if you can get people to watch for X episodes, they will watch enough to make a drama profitable. And after that X-point, they just let the drama coast and don't care so much anymore. OBVIOUSLY this is not the case for all dramas. definitely not. but there seems to be a LOT that don't follow through on initial greatness. (exaggerate much, nicole? ;)

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So EYE CANDY. How important is that for you in choosing to watch something?

I get it. But that's not everything to me since I follow my feelings more and so won't always make/break a drama or film for me. Especially I think most actors/actresses are beautiful and charming in their own way, and I can see the hype even when it's not my type, so criticisms when netizens rate actors/actresses they think is deserving of a role or not based on a narrow standard is frustrating.

Anyway, Junho's Gibang Bachelor (also known as Homme Fatale) is coming out in June, excited for it and all the haters coming for his looks can please stay away.

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I used to be more about eye candy, but I've learned that longer you watch a show, the more attractive everyone starts looking lololol. So now I don't give it as much credence at the beginning. Sometimes I can't get past a certain character's "look," and it sort of turns me off to the drama, but that's pretty rare, I think.

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Me too! So true. Once you get used to everyone's looks and the characters they convey, plus how you feel about those characters, that makes a bigger difference in how their expressions and features come across. That's why eventually I start to follow my feelings more. But likewise it can be an issue of getting into it to get to that point, although rarely.

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I wouldn't go into a show for the good looks of the actors/actresses. However there are certain looks that make me stay away from shows: even good looks, surprisingly.

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Interesting. Is it certain features or what are the factors of perhaps a drama or character (based around good looks? right fit for the role, or not?) that goes into turning you away?

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Sadly, it's just the way they look. For the life of me, I tried but could not watch Jung Woo Sung. Something about him looking too suave or his expressions not quite right. Watching him made me uncomfortable.

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In my case, it's *whispers* Lee Min ho...okay, gotta run and hide...

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>·< Ah, I understand, hehe. Although JWS is okay for me. Good looking doesn't override some impressions that are really hard to get over unless the actor/actress does a 180/270 change in character or looks. Like, I saw someone say they couldn't get into another actor (Lee Dong Gun) because he seems too greasy.

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I know someone who does not like LMH too but for his acting, not just looks, and she also will not watch a show with Namgoong Min in it.

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Since I really like NGM, I wonder what it is about him for your friend? Of course, everyone has their favorites, peeves, and likes/dislikes so just curious. I know (and understand) that it's his brand of acting (kind of like Jang Hyuk) that doesn't work for some.

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I don't care to watch Namgoong Min either and I think it is because the first show I ever saw him in his character was someone I detested. So that's a tribute to his acting ability, but an embarrassment to my inability to separate the actor from the character. Also, it seems to me that his movement is a little stiff and not loose and fluid and maybe it's my imagination, but it seems like he wears turtlenecks too often. (how petty and pathetic I am)

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If it helps hes a goodwill ambassador

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I’ll be honest, I really don’t care about looks alone and never really have in my 11 years of drama watching. And I’m not being fake when I say this, I mean it. I mean, I’m not blind. Of course I recognize attractive physical qualities or whatever in an actor, but it doesn’t affect how I view their character or the drama as a whole. And let’s be real, the beauty standards in this industry are ridiculous and all lead actors are attractive in some way, so I think it’s very arbitrary anyway.

What matters much more to me is the overall vibe that someone gives off, and the way they portray their character. Sure, their looks definitely go into that, but there are some good-looking actors who are absolute charismatic black holes and make me want to fall asleep whenever I see them on-screen.

Now, whether or not I’m personally attracted to someone definitely plays a part, but that has much more to do with what I said in my second paragraph than anything else, and it takes time for that to develop for me. I’ve never really had a “love at first sight” experience with an actor or character or whatever, even when I register from the first scene that they are good. It takes time for me to become attached to characters, dramas, and actors, and it’s honestly really rare. But, as I’m sure you all know by now haha, once that does happen to me I fall hard.

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I really like how you worded this. I agree on some (especially the charisma blackholes, and other times awkward acting pairing up with eye candy makes it worse) and some I wish I could grow to be the same. Weirdly, I also don't fall right away for any male actors based on looks. Unfortunately, I have a lot of first sight crushes on actresses -- until they start acting that that's the deal breaker, that is.

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I have a long list of good looking oppas who are not mine whose work I usually avoid. I guess eye candy is not that important to me.

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Eye candy lies in the eyes of the beholder.

My faves are eyecandy to me, but they most probably not be for others.

Hahaha 😆

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Eye candy isn't that important to me. I'm more about how actors/actresses make me feel. There are some actors/actresses that have something that just captures my attention and it's not just good looks. There are some actors/actresses that just turn me off regardless of how they look.

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So I googled eye candy..this is the first definition that came out:

Eye candy: visual images that are superficially attractive and entertaining but intellectually undemanding

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😄 Essentially how I feel about Rom coms. But they are good for a weary day.

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I would say I fall more for the character an actor/actress plays than for their looks alone.

The classmate who introduced me to Kdramas recommended me To The Beautiful You because she was a Shawol. I liked the group too and found Minho attractive (still the case) so I went into it and no matter how much of an eye candy he is, I couldn't like his character, his acting or the drama.

Instead of watching a drama purely for eye candies, I need something else, not necessarily a solid plot, just something that keeps my attention. The only time I watch dramas based on eye candies, it's webdramas because they are short and don't need big emotional investment.

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Really good eye candy makes me slightly less likely to drop a mediocre show.

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slightly - is the word :)

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Honestly it is not that important.
Not that I do not appreciate it. I could stare at Gong Yoo all day. Keanu Reeves in Speed....yes please.

But I love romantic stories, but it is important for me that the couple swoon for each other not that I swoon for them.

And you never know someone that was never on your radar might all of a sudden be very attractive to you.

After I started listening to Hamilton I started paying attention to Lin Manuel Miranda and total crush on him. His intelligence, energy, and sincerity.
The lead from JBL was never on my radar but his character I found to be super attractive.

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I see Keanu Reeves in Speed and I go no further! I have recently rewatched Speed after ten years and I have fallen in love again!

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😂

I actually have not watched it in years, but anytime I see him I think of how hot he was then.....still is though.

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Actually I have been revisiting my old favorites this past month, and NONE of them have held up to the test of time/memory/kdramas like Speed and one or two others.

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Keanu!! 😍 Love him. Apparently IRL he's kind, amazing grounded and humble in addition to being hot.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/18/keanu-reeves-grief-loss--bill-ted-john-wick-actor-tragedy?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Also did you know Sandra Bollock had a crush on him while filming Speed? And that he had one on her too? ☺️

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVBMGibfCw0&t=7s

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Yes, I did actually 😄

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Lin Manuel Miranda is very attractive. That kind of talent is quite compelling.

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think I've given up watching tv shows for the story or whatever. the vast majority is shit and I have a short attention span. I do watch for an actor or character and my superficial standard is "visually appealing and can cry well". a dream if they also threaten people well.

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😆 Crying well is a must for me too since that's where the most emotional scenes happen.

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"Visually appealing and can cry well and also threaten people well"...sounds like a character with a sad background that has grown cold to the world 😆

I've passed the stage of going in for the story. Now I go for dramas that have my favourite actors. Any drama without my faves will be treated equal and I will try one or two episodes to see if it hooks me to continue.

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lol thats fair. life sucks and often shit doesnt work please toss characters there
doesnt even have to b that tragic or specific sometimes I just wanna watch someone who is affected by and affects the world/people around them in some plausible way

that sounds as good a system as any tbh. hope ur faves find good projects!

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What IS eye candy? Can it be anyone from any age? I have found out that the more I age the more I tend to steer away from new good looking young lead actors. I have a hard time connecting wirh them if I haven't seen them a few times in secondary roles first. I know it sounds ridiculous but I can't help it. Sometimes I hear a favorite second lead of mine has immidiately landed a lead role and I feel very sad. Like I have lost them. It is weird, isn't it.

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Weird? Maybe? But I can kind of understand. I like some idols but most of them need more acting in not-lead roles. Also, sometimes secondary characters are more tolerable and likeable than the leads and through those roles I build a strong liking and tolerance for them.

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2nd leads and secondary characters are usually the characters I ended up liking more, at times I only care for them.

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It's a nice perk. But not really a must more often then not the leads looks grow on me depending on their character, and I'm a sucker for a deep voice

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I finished my SIX FLYING DRAGONS marathon (Musa Moohyul finally got his dragon intro!!). It was a wonderful week spent with clever characters and learning about Joseon’s foundation (now I know why it went wrong later...)

Superficial point: After SFD I wanted a small dose of something light and fluffy. I watched GOGH’S STARRY NIGHT (20 episodes of 20 minutes). Kim Young Kwang was extremely handsome in that drama. *cough* So, I started THE SECRET LIFE OF MY SECRETARY just for him. But why oh why is he so pale in SECRETARY? I don’t know if it’s makeup or lighting or camera filters, but I Iike the naturally tanned look much better. I’ve noticed that this has become the norm in dramas.

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I'm so sleepy, and read your post as SEXY FLYING DRAGONS...😃😃😃😃

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That works too 😂

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They'd be hot in every sense of the word lol

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Heh heh I'm not even sleepy and I read it that way ;D

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You and me, we have a problem...🤣🤣🤣🤣

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I’m watching I Really Really Like You (really really slowly) with @bammsie right now and it’s amazing how tan the whole cast looks! No whitewashing filters. I love it. I notice that films also tend to embrace the true color of the actors’ skin more than dramas as sell. It’s really sad to think about and I hope this trend of lighter and lighter filters goes away.

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I first saw Lee Dong Wook in My Girl. He was so much tanned and had moles/freckles on his face. I thought he was handsome. Now he is so pale and not a freckle to be seen.

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Glad I’m not the only one! I’m always shocked when I go back to older dramas, but it’s actually a healthier and more natural look!

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I was so mad that it took forever for MOO-HYUL to get his dragon intro lol. He was the one character that I was most excited about since TREE WITH DEEP ROOT.
Cho Jin-woong did a fantastic job making him endearing and Yoon Kyun-sang channeling him in SFD was the highlight of the show for me. Oh and Han Ye-ri.

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I cannot say how much I loved Han Ye Ri. The other ladies were good too but she was brilliant. Sometimes I felt like the show was trying too hard to make Shin Se Kyung important in the story. I understand that she was a fictional character who symbolised the people (besides being Bang Won’s love interest) so she was central to the drama’s message. And Shin Se Kyung did really well with her part. I just think that Han Ye Ri was more memorable in her few scenes.

Yoon Kyun Sang ❤️

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I wonder if Park Hae Jin's firefighter drama will ever be aired.....🤔

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Is it running into problems again? Nooooo.

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They are still filming. But there is no broadcaster yet, and there's also no timeslot for it yet. A lot of TV stations already have their drama scheduling plans, so I do wonder which broadcaster will pick it up. And why is it so hard for the drama to be selected by any broadcaster? Huhu..

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