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New posters and stills for Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung

New posters and stills have been released for MBC’s fusion sageuk Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung featuring the lead actors, as well as supporting cast.

The story is based on the the narrative of a fictional female historian by the name of Gu Hae-ryung – played by Shin Se-kyung (Black Knight) and weaves her story into Korean history. Although she enjoyed the rare privilege of studying abroad in Qing China, trouble always seems to follow in her wake and this fate leads her to Cha Eun-woo (My ID is Gangnam Beauty). He plays the role of Prince Yi Rim who is treated like the black sheep of the royal family and secretly writes romance novels on the side. It’s a passion he enjoys, though he’s not drawing from experience–he’s been single his whole life thus far.

In the first poster, Shin Se-kyung and Cha Eun-woo are pictured together in a palanquin. Shin Se-kyung holds a brush to a notebook as she stares at the camera, while Cha enjoys the view outside. The caption reads: “The prince and the historian’s invasion of privacy and instantaneous romance!”

The second poster is of the two leads again and they are shown sitting together by a riverside with their books. The caption is a question directed at their relationship, “Is that woman truly just an official to His Highness?”

The newly released stills feature the four main members of the royal family.

In the first of the recently released stills, Cha Eun-woo is shown dressed as an official with an unreadable expression on his face. However, despite his contentious relationship with his family, there are hints that he and his brother may have a better relationship in the second photo. In that photo, we see Park Ki-woong (Return) as Crown Prince Yi Jin who smiles warmly at Cha Eun-woo as they walk together outside.

The last two stills are of the king and queen. A poised Kim Yeo-jin (My Strange Hero) sits as Queen Im and in contrast, an angry looking Kim Min-sang (The Secret Life of My Secretary) reigns as King Yi Tae.

Writing for the drama is writer Kim Ho-soo, and directing will be a tag team of PDs: Kang Il-soo and Han Hyun-hui.

MBC’s upcoming Wednesday-Thursday drama Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung will be premiering in just a few weeks on July 17.

Via Newsen, Sports Seoul

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Wow, i am finally attracted to watch a sageuk! A historian and a novelist together?! Bring it on! I hope they remain loyal to their calls until the end, and of course a happy end between themselves would not be bad as well. 🤔😉🤗

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A prince who writes romance novels? A GUY who writes romance novels? It would be easier to believe in time-traveling zombies.

Are we sure the "prince" isn't a princess in disguise?

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Hes pretty enough to be a princess 😂😢

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Actually males did author romance novels in the Joseon era as most of the females were not taught writing that time. There were three stories stories that I know of: one is the classic "The Story of Chunhyang", the love story between a gisaeng's daughter and a young nobleman, the second is "The Story of Sookhyang" (my god, the heroine was so annoying there because she cried when there was a moment to spare, and she continuously wallowed in self-pity) and another one I forgot the title but it's basically the doomed romance between a terminally-ill noblelady and a nobleman. Come to think of it, they awfully remind me of drama plots 😁

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I am sure it makes sense. Not only in Joseon era,, but in other groups and societies there has been men writing love stories; not so fast away many classics in the British literature up until middle of the 19Th century when women finally started to also do it and being published

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When is Park Ki Woong getting a lead role??? He's been typecasted as a crazy villain like Shin Sung Rok, not that I'm complaining bc he acts rly well but his drama choices aren't as good.

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At least he's *not* a cray villain this time. Sounds like he's a super nice guy with a meaty plot. :)

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Getting yi san nostalgia seeing kim yeo jin in that costume, haha. I'm a sucker for sageuks in general so I'll be all over this and any sageuk airing.

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Yeees! My thoughts exactly on Kim Yeo jin!

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Oooh, the posters are so prettyyyyyy. Can it be July 17th already?

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Park Ki Woong's smile in the fourth picture tho...

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The more I read about this show, the more I cant wait to watch it!

I think the only other "sageuk" I've seen is My Only Love Song. And does that even count?

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LMAO, I guess that one's more of a time travel story? But then again, this one isn't truly historical either. But I'm with you, getting more excited for it the more I see.

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That's a fusion sageuk like this one. Fusion sageuks are usually historical dramas destined for the young audience and it's a mix of period and modern elements.

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It’s a passion he enjoys, though he’s not drawing from experience–he’s been single his whole life thus far.

I bet he has a wattpad account

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I mean men can write romance, but I found it skeptical that he can write romance while being a prince hidden from the public.

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it's prolly based on the writer's online persona where he pretends to be a joseon prince writing fanfiction.

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this really looks good and is right up my happy alley!

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I really hope Park Ki-woong remains good through the drama. I'm worried he will turn against Cha Eun-woo or will become part of a love triangle. I want them to remain loving and happy brothers through the whole drama (but that seems like a stretch for kdrama writers to fathom).

But otherwise this looks super cute and I'll definitely see it. I'm side-eyeing Cha Eun-woo but hopefully he has improved as an actor since ID: Gangnam Beauty.

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OKAY! Here's our wee-cap/comment section for Rookie Historian, since it doesn't look like this one will be officially recapped! I'll start with making headers for the different episodes--or maybe 2 episodes at a time (or one week at a time). Here I go! 32 Episodes!

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Yay! Thanks, Ally! Ohhhh where do I start?! I love this drama so much. It's obviously still early to rate it but I'm just glad that Shin Sekyung is back. She's my girl! The setup seems good so far. What's not to like about this girl who speaks up towards this very patriarchal society? Haeryung is quirky, smart, brave, and kind. I'm rooting for her no matter what!

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The set up is solid so far. An outspoken noble daughter, raised by her brother to be outspoken, much to his own chagrin. (I'm wondering if they'll be pitted against one another due to his relationship with the "evil" minister.) A cheeky prince who has a scandalous side hobby (romance novelist)! A well-intentioned crown prince who is also really cute! And a head historian/betrothed groom, who has some secrets of his own, I'm certain of that. Will there be a love qaudrangle? I kinda hope so! Everyone needs to fall for Haeryung because I am already! Ooohhh, and the mystery/not really mysterious author of Ho Dam's novel. We already know that the Queen Mother has her hands full trying to keep the King in check and I'm looking forward to the developments of the inner court in direct opposition of the outer court.

Favorite scene: Prince Lee Rim giving himself away as the author pretty early by being so dumfoundedly defensive when Haeryung gave him her reasons for disliking his novel. And her correcting his rude behavior when he kept talking to her in banmal. LOLOLOL! I'm glad that the mistaken identity of the author wasn't drawn out, but now I'm wondering what they're going to fill the rest of the 15/30 episodes with!

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What do you think of Cha Eun woo in this role ? Others have said he is not good but I think he is doing alright. The scene with his father was especially good.

So far, I don't think there is a weak link in the ensemble.

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Agree, though it’s still early. We’re still seeing broad strokes for the most part.
And yes, the scene with the King was well done.

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I like him! It's the first thing I've seen him in though, so have no comparison. I really believed how distraught he was when everything he loved was taken away from him by the king. He was really convincing.

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He is okay but I admit I get distracted when he does the wide eyed shocked look.

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I personally don't care for him here. He's okay in some scenes, like the scene with his father, but he's terrible in others. And I'm with @earthna on his "shocked" face. Every time he does that over the top, wide-eyed thing I cringe.

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It's actually 40 episodes! Unless I'm not remembering it correctly. I dont know how they will fill it all up. Maybe more cameos? Musa Moohyul?

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What? I read 32, 35 minute episodes before coming up with the episode headings, unless AsianWiki can't be trusted. I'd be ok with more cameos!

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@ally-le I just checked to be sure. Netflix had it up to episode 20. Asianwiki had it at 32. I guess we'll know when we get there? Lol

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Actually, my favorite scenes are with the secondary characters, not between the main ones. For example, HR’s maid’s reaction when she hears HR met an interesting man in the palace...the whole scene was so funny!

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HAHAHAHHAAHAH That was hilarious! I always love the interactions between nobleperson and their fateful servants. They don't treat them like slaves but more like best friends.

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I am loving Rim's court as well. I hope we see more of his court ladies.

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And GHR finally acknowledge her very privilege by telling Seol guem how hard her job is.

The Crown Prince nailed it in his talk with her.

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Yessss! It's so easy to be selfish when having a hard time but amidst all that, Haeryung had a realization of how hard it must have been for Seol Geum all this time and made sure to tell her how much she appreciates her being there.

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I loved the speech the Crown Prince gave to her about privilege. Hae-ryung needed to hear it, and I was glad to see that she is someone who genuinely reflects on her behavior and is willing to change.

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Okay, so this is the second 1 hour episode, but episodes 3-4 by the not-so-new-but-still-confusing 30 minute episodes.

Who predicted that the betrothed groom that Haeryung's brother set her up with was the head historian??? Not me! I though he liked her, and it would have set up a love triangle in the palace when she gets there, but I totally didn't see that coming! Now, I wonder why he didn't go through with the wedding. Did he know it was her? Of course he did, right? He would have done his due diligence, right? But I love how close the two princes are that the Crown Prince would risk his own life to talk to his brother in the library. He already knows he's on thin ice with the King as well. I think all the actors are doing well, even if they are inexperienced. I like how mischievous Prince Lee Rin is and how he is with the eunuch. The scene with him trying to apply the salve on the eunuch's non-existent wounds had me rolling---"maybe it's on the other side!"

I think this is well-written so far, but I'm not Korean and can't understand 90% of what I'm hearing, so I may be totally off. @earthna? thoughts?

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So far so good! I'm not fluent enough to judge how well it is written in Korean but all I know is Shin Sekyung's pronunciation is crystal clear!

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What? Head historian is the ex fiancé? Why did I not notice this. Am confused.

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Wait, is he not? I'm not sure now because I haven't watched the next episodes, but maybe it was a different guy (@earthna mentions a cameo in the next episode)? I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out myself!

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This set of episodes confirmed my devotion to this drama. Lol. I basically shipped Haeryung with four people. Seo Youngjoo's cameo was awesome. To think that such a nobleman existed in this Joseon, wow. It's not just calling off the wedding but respecting Haeryung's decision despite them meeting for the first time [and girls don't get to say their opinions in Joseon]. I would have wanted them together in a different dramaverse. I think they'd live a good life.

And then there's the Crown Prince! Park Kiwoong! Ahhhhh I've never seen the man since Gaksital. I don't know why but it's been so long! In a way, his character is like Haeryung, smart and brave yet not able to do anything against the laws of the land. I'm rooting for him and his path to being a sage king.

Drunk Haeryung FTW!

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That was so good. My mind has been blown by how the writer has been so far. Yes, there is the patriarchy but this feels new.

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I'm glad you think this is written well. I think so too, so far anyway! I like the take of having female historians, and the fact that no gender was specified in who could take the civil service exam, and then the bit of history about the ancient era having female historians as well. Assuming this was all true to history, they did their research!

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Really liked the exchange between GHR and the CP over the test question and the answer.

It looks like the CP has a good heart and a good view of what a king and government should be for the people, but he hasn’t figured out how to handle the aristocrats/bureaucrats.

Did anyone notice a “good guys” faction? They all seemed opposed to anything the CP wanted to do to help the people.

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*sigh* Feels too on the nose what the CP is going through with the bureaucrats.

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Sadly, I haven't notice a good faction just yet. Judging by the King's attitude, I don't think he would have decent guys around.

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Yes!! Comes from experience. And clearly she has been practicing her drinking :)

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This is when my Haeryung-Woowon ship sailed. I know it will sink soon so maybe we can revive the Island Party? I'll get my life vest ready.

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I have discussed it and I know its gonna happen and I really don't want it to. He was fine with how they were being treated until he wasn't and we have seen enough of that in dramas to be sick of it.

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I don't think he was fine with it. Considering his personality, I think he was trying to think about what the best thing to do is. This is new to all of them. At first, I was so mad because I am 100% sure they were doing this because they are women (a big part of it is still because of that) but it never occurred to me that they probably did this to other newbies as well. They all started doing chores and worked their way up. I'm not saying it's right but that's how they did things.

The first time he met Haeryung, he was respectful and did not shot her request down like what most official would have done. He was calm and explained to her what she was curious about. He trusts her that she won't give up. When he said she's not a historian, I saw it as him saying she's meant for more than that. He knows her potential but straight up siding with the girls would have made them suffer more.

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My take is that the historians are supposed to be unemotional recorders. They are certainly not to make expressions or gestures while sitting as a recorder of events. Given that the senior historians, if they are actually fit for their office, would tend to be quiet expressionless people. Not exactly the type that fills that office...except for Woo-won. The rest of them look and sound like frat boys holding down sinecures...

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@earthna I like your take on him. But I really would just like for these reasons to be because of respect and not because he is looking to be a romantic partner to her.

Must there be a second lead syndrome.

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Yes, there must! Kdrama 101: Because it never happened to me, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Kdrama 210: And if there is a 3rd lead, he will be a puppy that everyone feels sorry for, but not enough to ship him with the girl.

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Fine. I will just accept it.

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@larelle79 Aha! I know what you meant now! Sorry for not understanding it the first time. The romantic part of it is just me pushing them together lol. I would also love for them to have a relationship built on trust and camaraderie instead of romance. :)

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Make sure all the supplies are stocked up! Maybe some Sangria!

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OMO, I just realized I've been in Mexico all week, and haven't had a drop of sangria. Must put an end to that, STAT! Where was that bar tender??? LOL.

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I am glad Rim's identify is known. And now I am worried about the Crown Prince. Those old men will do anything to stay in power and the last thing they need is a young buck who is empathetic and smart as hell.

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Oh oh oh! I can't believe I forgot about this. Whenever Rim gets his nightmares, he's always wearing kingly robes. What's with that? Is he subconciously wanting to be Crown Prince or is this a foreshadowing (or surprise! a glimpse of his past life)?

I still find Rim's story arc a bit too vague and confusing. The next episodes will probably make things clearer but for now, thoughts on this?

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And we know that the tomb that he saw does exist. It was not a dream. There is a reason his father does not want him writing stories anymore. I think Rim saw or heard something when he was young and those memories are coming back.

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Ohhh that is nice! It would also make sense why the King had Rim locked up, not to interact with others.

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I read somewhere that Rim might be the son of the dethroned king and Ho Dam could be his mother.
It seems likely that he is involved in how the current king came to power and this is why his father hates him.

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If that was the case he would have been killed too. There is no reason for the king to keep a 'heir' alive. right?

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Even in Joseon era men made the girls(they like) do ‘cleaning’. I rolled my eyes so hard but then thanks to GHR for smacking him hard more than twice.

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I’ve decided that I don’t mind the old tropes if they end in a much more satisfying way, with some sort of reversal.

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I rolled my eyes watching that too. We can't have everything.

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Am so glad the mistaken identity is not going to continue any further! It was nice for a short period of time.
Wonder how GHR will respond to this now. Knowing he is crown Prince.

Her curious mind is going to get them solve mysteries together. Mostly she telling him what to do :)

This show is hitting all the right spots for me. Did not expect it!! Show, continue to be good :)

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Yay for hijacking this comment feed, guys! It went from 20 comments to 85 in no time flat! Hope we have more discussions and maybe some
Beanie might be able to make out the historical context for us--it's not a serious sageuk, so I'm not holding my breath--@kiara, @wishfultoki, @pakalanapikake?

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I'd like to know too! I'm curious about the Heodam book. I tried to search up Heodam but nothing came up. Is this history based or just fiction?

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I like this idea. She being a historian is perfect to uncover what happened in the past and all the secrets that surround the prince. I'd like to see them teaming up for the investigation, romance or not their chemistry is so good! :D

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Did anyone catch any specifics on the death of HR’s parents? In response to a comment about HR’s orabonis protectiveness, I made the comment below:

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There was an implied tragedy involving the death of their parents... and their lives are somewhat contingent on the brother’s “good behavior” towards the villain. I wonder if the parents’ death are involved with the mystery surrounding Ho Dam?

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So Rim's and GHR meet cute was not that at all. The look of disappointment on her face when she saw him. Ahhhhhh....those two puppies.

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It's Wednesday! Rookie Day!

This set of episodes was not as omg as other episodes were but I like it a lot. I wasn't very much into Rim's characters just because I found the other ones more interesting. I have questioned why Rim had to be male lead but now I know. Haeryung needs a friend. She does have the other historians but Rim is different. They understand each other without having to say anything. That last scene with Haeryung crying at Neoksodang sealed it for me. When Rim said, "Nobody ever comes here. It's okay to cry. Nobody would know or hear it," it was comforting yet heartbreaking. Rim knows this by experience. He's been stuck in this place his whole life. It reveals so much about his character and what he's been through this whole time.

I can foresee lot of frustrations for Haeryung. It's hard to break customs. People know it's wrong and they don't like it but nobody's brave enough to point it out.

Orabeoni's plot thickens though.

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I loved that scene too. When he said 'you can cry as much as you want, since no one comes here'. He truly understands what it is to be lonely and what it means to cry.

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I can only imagine how much pain he was in. I'd go crazy if it was me. You're a prince. People think you have everything but all he has was his house, can't even go out. I'm really grateful he has Sam-bo and that his brother is a really good person.

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Heartbreaking and comforting at the same time.

And I am glad that GHR is getting called out on it. Officer Yang, for all his whatever, was absolutely right about it and GHR did not even discuss it with Oh or Heo before doing it ( I think she knew she would not have gotten far with Song) and now the target is not just her. They are all in this together and her prideful response did not help. She is truly sheltered and does not know how to read a room and that is showing to be her downfall right now.

And kudos for Rim giving her the space she needs. That dude is too well adjusted for someone who is hated by his parent and in permanent isolation. Cha Eun woo's scene alone was so good.

Someone give them a hug.

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GHR knew what she was doing and is willing to face the consequence of her actions. As someone pointed out 'customs are more scary than laws'.
I don't think there is a right way to solve these problems. She does what is possible in her capacity.
Her writing a petition causes an issue for that department, and people know who did it. She has been shown as a person who is not willing to always accept status-quo. If there is a way to question it and fight for it, she will.
I am curious how this will proceed. because it affects not just women but rookie men too.

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Hae Ryung is sheltered but what she did was right. She knows that the others aren't as courageous as her to step-up and face the status quo.

I don't know but I felt deeply for her when she cried. And Officer Yang is totally not right about calling out on HR. For all we know, the rookie Historian men are going through no-salary concerns for the longest time but he did not dare to do anything. What would've changed if HR approached him.

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Haeryung definitely has so much to learn still. She has the heart and the brains to change things but she has to understand that just one person won't be able to do it. These are customs built throughout the years and people have been trying to change it to no avail. Heck, it still happens to this day. I support her cause but she still seems too naive for this. Good thing is we still have lots of episodes to make herself tougher and learn how things work, also gain some comrades along the way!

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No.. so historian Song is a minion for Second State chancellor.. arghhhh... I was hoping she would be something more than that..

I really liked the interaction between Rim and GHR. It was sweet, playful and start of something more meaningful.

I am so happy that Rim finally gets to have some human interaction and has someone who he can talk to. I liked that it was GHR who first said that she thought they could be friends. It sure must have been emotional for Rim who has never had a friend before.. Awww,, someone take him away from this palace and go on a world tour ; )

Rim and Sam-bo - these two are just hilarious.. love their interactions and Sam-bo's expressions are priceless!

Also, is it a coincidence that the doctor-slave's name is 'Mo-Hwa' and Rim's pseudonym is Me-Hwa?

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I wonder if Song is related to the Crown Prince's wife somewhere.

He already said his wife was a spy for the Chancellor.

And also, are we gonna see her.

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I think the Crown Princess is his daughter, Woowon's sister. It's not unusual for the Queen or Crown Princess to be the daughter of the Second in Command.

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Queen Im....out here taking names and planning deaths. Her storyline is gonna be hella interesting.

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@mayhemf. I agree with you GHR is doing what she can. The silence and quiet acquiescence of every one to the corruption around them was and continues to be a really hardcore problem of society. GHR is at least trying to do something, unlike the rest of them who are just making it worse.

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I finally got this episode watched. I thought the political bribes to get paid was well done. It reminds me of lobbyists in the US government. Organizations employ lobbyists to wine and dine and from relationships with politicians to get their agendas on ballots, funding for non-profits, research monies, etc. This is why tobacco in my state is taxed the lowest, like <$0.20 per pack. It’s also all money-driven. Organizations with the most money usually win votes and influence. I believe the auS government is probably one of the least corrupt systems of government in the world, and if it’s prevalent here, how much more must it be in other countries?

Favorite scenes: all the ones where GHR and Prince Rim share screen time together. I agree that their chemistry is too good. Their banter is quick and crisp and they really feel like their are genuine with each other, and I’m sure there’s going to be a childhood connection, because how could there not? (Also, one of my least favorite tropes, but I forgive sageuks because people never moved from anywhere.)

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Wow. poor Rim. I knew he was isolated, but he is straight up in exile ( I could just slap the king for that). To not even have senior members know what his looks like and to not even know the grounds of your home; I am just so sad for him and as I wrote before on my wall, he is too well adjusted. Naive, yes, but he is kind, self aware and also a bit self deprecating. I think that is part his brother and his court because they do seem to keep him in check.

I am also liking Female Historian Song's reason for becoming a historian, but I don't like how she is gaining traction with the Chancellor. That is not gonna end well for her because, let's be real, she is a woman. There is not a damn thing wrong with ambition but I do not want her to fall on a sword because she does not have the right anatomy to want it.

And I am liking Female Historian's Oh and Heo more and more. I knew they would step up to help out GHR with that workload. Kudos ladies to knowing what is up.

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I liked Song historian's perspective and gave a little bit insight to her as a person. But you are right, am scared for her.
She used Second chancellor to convince her father to let her go for a job. Am sure it came with a catch. She may be throwing some red herrings to him or she may not really care.

As we get to see, every woman out there are 'alone' in their own world.

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Judging by the previews for next week, I think we can get a pretty good idea.

Wow, the Chancellor really is something else.

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Why are these two so flipping cute!! GHR and Rim are just too adorable together. They are just like kids in a candy store.

Let's take a moment to cheer GHR's horny sidekick. Is she a hoot or what!! I almost fell off my chair when she said 'They are so unnecessarily modest'!!

I love Seom-Bo so much! as much as he cares for Prince Rim, he is also a very responsible person. Rim may be isolated and have no duty to perform, but he still has to live by the palace standards. SB is already making him aware of his feelings for historian and what consequences it may bring.

darn king. bad timing.

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Seol-guem is the best. I am glad that she sees GHR as a woman with needs who should explore them. I gotta tell ya, the show really has been nailing social issues. It is just kinda sad that this issues are still so relevant in 2019.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA Seol Geum! She's hilarious! Her expressions are on point!

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Wow. GHR’s oraboni called the mystery woman (Queen’s agent, Eunuch’s wife) sister! On Netflix, they inserted her name instead of literally translating 누이 to sister.

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Actually the slave turned doctor Mo-Hwa does mention she cared for him like a brother. I didn’t realize he called her sister.
Am guessing GHR Oraboni was a slave too. Or they came from Qing and eventually got some noble status.

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So how would that be possible if GHR was educated there. I can't imagine a slave able to get someone that type of education.

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They had a relationship which was very close, enough to use the terms brother and sister. Later there is a scene from 10 years ago. Where the former slave woman is suturing up a patient in front of another group. Another person calls her sister as well. Some sort of a very tight (secret???) group, seeing a demonstration of foreign medical technique...interesting plot development!

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Eeeeep! Rim took my heart and ran away with it!

I mean why else wold someone stay up all night doing your homework for you? And be happy even though he didn't get to sleep and had ink all over his hands? He even wrote her a poem (I think he's bluffing about it being a poem he knows. I bet he wrote it himself).

I'm still on the fence regarding Song Sahui. I'm all for empowerment but I still can't root for her completely knowing she's reporting everything to Woowon's dad.

I wanna see more of Orabeoni's past. He seems veery close with Mohwa considering how he called her 누이 and she said she treated him like her own brother.

Shin Sekyung is the cutest! She's actually super cute in real life too. Check her out in Olive Pocha!

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Given the way her story is developing, I have hope that Historian Song ends up on the side of the Crown Prince, since it’s pretty clear GHR will not pair with the CP.

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She'd be an awesome ally for him. She's smart and resourceful. If he'll give her a chance, she'll make for a good government official.

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I think that could happen. I think she is gonna wise up real quick when she realize that The Chancellor sees her as nothing but a potential mistress to dethrone the CP and would probably have her do something more severe than just flirting.

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Who else died when the King walked in at the end of episode 12? Now I remember why I don't live watch shows. I don't want to wait an entire week to find out if people are getting beheaded or not!

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Lol I don't know how that would end coz it just looks so wrong. HAHAHAHA

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I screamed in a very, very scared way!!

Especially looking at GHR (almost) hugging Lee Rim like that. Totally a No No to any royal protocol. Or I'm just watching too much sageuk and not used to princes not following protocols.

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These episodes were the cutest... I so so loved it. Can I go hug Prince Li Rim? I think he needs it & good to see a strong female lead. I am loving this show & cast

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Does anyone know then song that plays in the end credits? I think it also played when GHR was crying. I can't find it anywhere.

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It’ll probably be released as part of the OST. I’ll keep my ears and eyes out!

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It's driving me nuts having to wait. Thanx 🙂

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Not the one you’re looking for, but this looks like the only one out so far: https://youtu.be/UAPEslyQASA

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I saw it. Thanx 🙂

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I like the translation and grammar on this lyric vid better for this OST (2): https://youtu.be/IDYTiFj9eoY

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The preview for next week is what drives me crazy. I am right all along that Lee Rim is not the king's son. Too early for such a birth secret reveal, but makes me so confused when I try to trace it with some historical facts. If Prince Dowon/Lee Rim is not the king's son, then which king do we have right now? King Sejo? He is the only King who killed his nephew and brothers; and the only King who fits the narrative. But history wise, Prince Dowon is older than his brother who became King after King Sejo died. Which made me really confused. Usually dramas keep the factual info and just add fictional characters.

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Thanks for the bit of historical context here. I think writers take whatever liberties they want with the fusion sageuks. It makes us do these mental acrobatics and question the history. There was the time period at the very beginning in episode 1 that said this was set in the early 19th century, so I’m guessing 1800-1850 or thereabouts. However both kings that ruled during this time ascended to the throne as children, King Sunjo who ruled for over 30 years, and died at 44 years and King Heonjong, his grandson. It seems that the Crown Prince who was supposed to ascend to the throne died at 20. Which makes me suspect that our Crown Prince here is going to die in the future, which is going to make me cry a river. So the liberty they took was that this king forcefully took the throne instead of a sending to it rightly.

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Also, is the King Sejo you’re refereeing from the 1400’s? The Books that the King was burning (western books as well) weren’t published until the 1800’s.

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Episodes 13-14

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Well, well, well, Rim was not a puppy this time around. I was super proud of him and GHR these two episodes. Acknowledgement of their privileged and wanting to change how they see the world...oh, I just adore these two.

Here are my side notes:

Soel-geum- Not enough. Seriously that one scene was not enough. They need to figure out a way for her to be in scenes with GHR and Rim.

Female Historian Heo- That burn was *chefs kiss*. She is speaking up and speaking out and I love it.

Crown Prince- Oh man, his face knowing where his brother is at. And also-don't fall for it dude, you are smarter than that and telling Historian Song she was out of line was the first step. Keep it going.

Historian Song- there can be hope for her yet. Her father was the OG Big Pharma and I was just as disgusted with him as she was.

Queen Dowanger- Yes, we are watching a series where Kim Min-sang, age 56 is calling Kim Yeo-jin, age 45, MOTHER.

Scholar Lee- It was good to see him again and you know, I would have been down for he and GHR going through with their marriage. I think those two would have been great and did great things together.

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Yay for Scholar Lee! He's the could have been!

I hate how I can figure out what Sahee's goal. I want her to be successful but she's sketchy as hell.

Sooooo Dowoon is not the King's son. I'm thinking he's Mo-hwa's son but I don't know how they got the King to agree to acknowledge him as a son of that's the case.

I loveeeee the beach scene!

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Or The King is Rim's uncle. We still don't know what really happened to his brother.

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@larelle79 But why keep him as a Prince? He should have been deposed, killed, or exiled.

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Well summarized!

I think Seol-Geum and the two ladies at Prince Rim’s court would make a natural trio.

Historian Song’s arc will be interesting.

This feels more like an ensemble drama - I hope it retains that feel, with real story arcs for the secondary characters. Key point - the female historians need to remain fierce, and the focus of the drama.

The beach scene was just beautiful.

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Yes I like that it’s not one character driven. Everyone is equally important. That’s what makes the drama more enjoyable. we don’t see them as ‘fillers’!

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Queen Dowanger- Yes, we are watching a series where Kim Min-sang, age 56 is calling Kim Yeo-jin, age 45, MOTHER.

Oof. Is the Dowager is literally the current king's biological mother?

My favorite narrow age gap was the three years between Angela Lansbury and Laurence Harvey in Manchurian Candidate. It adds to the creepy frisson between mother and son. Same for the one year difference between Angelina Jolie and Colin Farrell in the apparently-terrible Alexander. According to a listicle I found on this topic, the most egregious age difference was casting 5-years-younger Rachel Griffiths as Johnny Depp's mother!

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The big mystery for me is why Prince Rim is even alive. The power relationship between the king and dowager queen, the blood line of prince Rim, what happened to GHR’s parents, why GHR’s oraboni is indebted to the villain...I suspect they are all linked into the puzzle.

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The story of HoDam must be the link. About how king came to power.
And somehow GHR is linked. I feel she may not be the biological sister.
I won’t be surprised if they throw in a childhood connection :)

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I loved last night's ep especially the beach scene. But it feels like it's lacking something? Like it lost a part of its charm from its previous episodes. And why am I getting a frustrated hunch that the focus of the story will move away from Hae Ryung? :( Please writer-nim do not divert like other dramas which started well and end for naught.

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It’s starting to set up the growth of Prince Dowon.

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This. I am happy that it is staring now rather than later because that would have been a drag.

But it is also setting up for a conflict I am not looking forward to between to brothers. Jin default to Rim has always been 'you don't need to worry' and it has been successful. That is not gonna fly anymore and those two will have to have more serious talks about what is going on.

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@larelle79 Oh yes. and a great set up for the Prince. I generally like stories where the king/prince actually spend time with interacting with people. Makes me root for them more.
Its sad that Prince Dowon is so naive he believes everything initially and then sees the exact opposite of what he was told. He doesn't have the experience to act his 'role'. He knows he is prince but he never had the chance to learn what it means to be one.
GHR sees that, and in her own way she is navigating him.
I hope this doesn't become a conflict between brothers, but makes them stand united against the king and the second state guy.

btw, why did the Second State Minister plan on sending Dowon to the province. No one cared about Dowon until now.
Was it his trap to catch MoHwa?

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He has a lot of balls in the air. He already has a paranoid king in his pocket and knows he can control, so that can go on the backburner for now. Once he figured out that his son in law was not as dumb as he thought, he knew he needed a outside source to help that along as while his daughter is Crown Princess, she is useless as a spy because her husband doesn't trust her and hates her. And sending Rim was the 'easiest' to do as Rim can die one of two ways, from smallpox or assassinated and the blame placed on Mo-hwa and the search for her and her subsequent murder would be next.
Then it is just going up the food chain after that, get the king and crown prince exiled, his daughter would be the next in line and while he might not have the thrown, he would be the power behind it.

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Welp, the ending of this episode took a dark turn ( I am so over the slap). I am glad Rim disobeyed orders and also that he did not break down into tears even though he wanted to. That was exactly what The King was looking for to further embarrass him.

Rim and Historian Min doing laborious work. HA...HA...HAHAHAHAHA.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

Min speaking with that child like it was an adult. HA....HAHAHA.....HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

Now to the questions:

How much does Seo-bo know about his wife?
Is he really a eunuch or is it in title only?
GHR's brother, which side is he playing at this point?
Is Female Historian Song gonna keep playing the Chancellor's game for him?
Is Female Historian Heo gonna keep with the spontaneous zingers?

So many questions.

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I think GHR’s brother is just trying to keep himself and his sister alive. He is not one of the Chancellor’s inner circle, IMO.

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