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One Spring Night: Episodes 11-12

Our pharmacist is suddenly of great interest to those closest to the conflicted librarian, which makes is more difficult for her to break free from her long-time boyfriend. Even when her boyfriend suspects that there could be someone else, the thought that Jung-in could open her heart to a single dad is unfathomable. Though denial may stall a break up, but it can’t stop a growing bond between Jung-in and our pharmacist.

 
EPISODE 11 RECAP

Jung-in locks her gaze on Ji-ho’s face while she tells Ki-seok that she wants to break up. Ji-ho steps outside so Jung-in can have some privacy while she tries to convince Ki-seok that she’s serious. Ki-seok asks for Jung-in’s reason but she tells him, “…let’s break up without any reason,” and with nothing more to say, she hangs up.

Jung-in lets Ji-ho back into her apartment and when he offers to leave as soon as Young-jae returns, Jung-in assures him it’s not necessary because, “This has nothing to do with you.” Ji-ho isn’t sure how he feels now that the woman that he’s attracted to just broke up with her boyfriend.

Jung-in tells Ji-ho that she isn’t sure when her confusion began, only that she avoided dealing with it. The tension eases when Ji-ho jokes that he helped out by serving as Jung-in’s punching bag.

Jae-in and Young-jae return and as they wait for the elevator, Young-jae worries that Jung-in might not want company. Jae-in reminds him that her sister is the straightforward type but Young-jae doesn’t see her that way. Annoyed that Young-jae has paid that much attention to Jung-in, Jae-in threatens to go after Ji-ho until she remembers that he likes someone.

Young-jae warns Jae-in not to mention it but once they’re upstairs and Jae-in has had a few drinks, she confronts Ji-ho, “I heard you’re head over heels for someone.” Jae-in wants to know what Ji-ho finds attractive about his mystery woman and laughs when he answers, “She’s such a fool.”

When Ji-ho gets a call from Eun-woo, Jung-in directs him to her room and cringes when she sees the clothes that she tossed onto the floor. Jung-in shoves the clothes into her closet just as Eun-woo asks Ji-ho why he isn’t talking.

Ji-ho explains that he’s at a friend’s house and the boy pries, “Are you at the teacher’s place?” Even though Ji-ho denies it, Eun-woo asks to speak to the teacher, which Jung-in overhears. Jung-in takes the phone and smiles at Ji-ho while she talks with his son. When Jung-in sweetly ends the call, “I’ll see you in your dream,” Ji-ho is overcome with emotion.

Later, the impromptu party is interrupted by the doorbell. The sisters are surprised to see that Ki-seok is the visitor and Jung-in instructs Jae-in not to come out.

When Jung-in walks out, Ki-seok can tell that she’s been drinking. Inside, Jae-in tries to keep the party going but Ji-ho keeps glancing at the door. Ki-seok argues that Jung-in needs to observe good manners but she reasons, “We have no respect for each other, so who cares how our relationship ends?”

Angry, Ki-seok insists on working things out but Jung-in warns him to lower his voice. Ki-seok wants to go somewhere else to talk but Jung-in refuses and when she tries to go back inside, he grabs her.

When everyone inside hears Jung-in protest, “Don’t do that,” Jae-in gets up to investigate. Young-jae whispers that it’s time to go but Ji-ho points out that would only make things more awkward.

One of Ji-ho’s shoes gets kicked outside when Jae-in opens the door and explains, “We have guests…” When Jae-in invites Ki-seok to join them, Jung-in sends her sister back inside, alone. Ki-seok reminds Jung-in that he gave her time to think and asks for the same consideration.

Once Jung-in returns, Ji-ho tells Young-jae, “Let’s go.” Jae-in is upset that Ki-seok ruined the fun but Young-jae insists, “We were going to leave anyway.” On his way out, Ji-ho give’s Jung-in’s shoulder a reassuring pat.

As they wait for the kindergarten bus the next morning, Ji-ho’s mother asks Eun-woo about his phone call with his father. The boy explains that he talked with the teacher, “She told me that I need to go to bed early to grow taller.”

Mom crouches down to double check that Eun-woo is talking about a woman and the boy reminds her that all teachers are women. Cute. Once the bus leaves with Eun-woo, Mom sits in the dry cleaner’s shop to think. When Dad joins her, Mom shares her suspicion, “I think Ji-ho is seeing someone,” and she’s already guessed that the woman works at the library that Ji-ho and Eun-woo visited.

Chairman Kwon arrives at the school just as Jung-in’s after, Principal Lee, returns from a meeting. Principal Lee promises to write up a report for the chairman’s benefit but Chairman Kwon suggests taking a walk together first.

Chairman Kwon offers Principal Lee a position at his foundation after his retirement. Principal Lee thanks the chairman, who uses the opportunity to counsel, “And about our kids…Marriage is a major life event, so we should really think it through…Let’s not make a rash decision.”

Ha-rin returns to her desk, puzzled about some new dinosaur children’s books that have gone missing. Ha-rin and Young-joo are surprised when Jung-in announces that she took them — for her nephew. Young-joo blinks and then points out that Jung-in has no nephews. Jung-in corrects herself, “It’s my cousin’s son,” and after she makes a hasty exit, her friends agree that Jung-in looked flustered.

As the pharmacy team prepares to close, Ye-seul offers to set up Ji-ho on a blind date but Pharmacist Wang warns her not to bother. When Ji-ho and Pharmacist Wang go out for coffee, she confesses that she misses the old Ji-ho, “You were fun, smart, and competitive.”

Pharmacist Wang knows how much Eun-woo changed Ji-ho’s life, but she’s noticed a change in Ji-ho recently. Ji-ho admits, “There’s someone I like,” and adds that because of the woman’s situation and a series of obstacles, he isn’t sure if he should pursue her.

When asked if he’d regret letting her go, Ji-ho shakes his head, “I can endure it all, she’ll obviously have a hard time because of me.” Pharmacist Wang argues, “You’ve suffered enough…Can I see that high-spirited version of you again?”

Shi-hoon stands over a shaken Seo-in in their trashed apartment and rips up a document, “Let me say this one more time. You can’t get out of this marriage.” On his way out, Shi-hoon mentions that he invited Jung-in and Ki-seok over and tells Seo-in to arrange the date.

Later, when Seo-in is about to go on the air, Shi-hoon texts a reminder to schedule the get-together. Seo-in’s co-anchor mentions rumors of a scandal and Seo-in vows not to let him down.

Seo-in submits her resignation and when her boss wonders what jerk is spreading rumors about her, she says nothing. He offers Seo-in the support of the company but she points out its inability to stop the rumors.

Seo-in’s boss worries that she has plans to join another network but Seo-in claims that she wants to study. Her boss mentions the company’s training program but Seo-in insists on keeping her plans private.

Jung-in’s mother stops at the library to talk to Jung-in. When Mom informs Jung-in that Chairman Kwon offered her father a job at the foundation, Jung-in realizes that her parents expect the offer to influence her decision about Ki-seok. Jung-in reminds her mother that this is what happened with Seo-in, which is why Jung-in and her father can’t get along.

EPISODE 12 RECAP

Ji-ho meets Hyun-soo outside of the bank and when they see Ki-seok, Hyun-soo invites him to join them for a drink. Ki-seok can’t make it since he’s on his way to see his girlfriend but after seeing Ji-ho’s shoes, he changes his mind.

Jae-in and Young-jae are out together again and Jae-in mentions that Ji-ho and Jung-in behaved suspiciously the night that they were all together. Young-jae comes to their defense — Ji-ho just went into Jung-in’s room to talk on the phone and Jung-in went in to tidy up. Jae-in persists, “Those two seem fishy, right,” and Young-jae blurts out, “Yes. I mean, no. She has a boyfriend.”

Young-joo catches up to Jung-in after work to ask if she’s on her way to end things for good with Ki-seok. When Jung-in informs her that Ki-seok cancelled, Young-joo warns, “Don’t think you’re out of the woods yet.”

Over drinks, Hyun-soo asks Ki-seok why he cancelled his plans with his girlfriend. Ki-seok stares at Ji-ho before bringing up the other night. Ji-ho readily admits, “Yes, I was at the apartment. I knew you came by, but I couldn’t come out…” Ki-seok sighs in relief when Ji-ho adds that he was there with Jae-in and Young-jae.

Hyun-soo looks confused, so Ki-seok explains that his friends were invited to his girlfriend’s house by her sister. Hyun-soo comes to his friends’ defense but Ki-seok now finds the entire situation funny. Ki-seok admits that when he saw the mens’ shoes, “I got pissed because it seemed like she had someone else.”

Amused by his misunderstanding, Ki-seok tells Ji-ho, “If I had known it was you, I would’ve gone in and buried the hatchet with Jung-in.” Ki-seok looks puzzled when Ji-ho admits, “I should’ve told you the truth.”

Young-jae gets a call from Hyun-soo and has to explain, “We didn’t plan on going there and nothing happened.” Young-jae tells Jae-in that Ki-seok found out that he and Ji-ho were at the apartment and she mutters, “That was fast.”

Jung-in sees the pair on her way to her building and Jae-in informs her that Ki-seok and Ji-ho are together. When Jung-in enters her apartment, she pulls out her phone, unsure what to do.

Jae-in walks in to confront her sister about Ji-ho, “You’re the woman he likes, right?” Jung-in’s silence says everything and Jae-in has to ask, “Do you like him too?” When Jung-in confesses that she does, Jae-in summarizes, “So the two men pining over you are currently together.”

When Jung-in is about to call Ji-ho, Jae-in orders her to call Ki-seok instead to find out what he knows. Ki-seok lays it on a bit thick for the benefit of Ji-ho when Jung-in calls, “When have you ever asked me to rush over?”

Ki-seok is convinced that Jung-in probably wants to make up so Hyun-soo urges him to hurry. Ji-ho protests, “Can’t you stay…Can’t your girlfriend come here instead?” Hyun-soo pronounces Ji-ho drunk and once Ki-seok is gone, he asks, “What’s going on,” but a miserable Ji-ho can only shake his head and whisper that it’s nothing. While Jung-in waits for Ki-seok to arrive, Ji-ho tries to cheer himself up with a call to Eun-woo.

Over wine, Jae-in explains to Ki-seok, “It was my doing, so no more misunderstandings.” Ki-seok assures Jae-in that he doubted Jung-in for no reason because Ji-ho poses no threat. Jae-in doesn’t understand so Ki-seok explains that Ji-ho is a single father.

Ki-seok laughs that Ji-ho tried to stop him from coming over. Jung-in decides that he must have been drunk and Ki-seok agrees, otherwise Ji-ho’s comment would be strange. Jae-in asks Ki-seok to forget about what happened but he reminds her that it’s Ji-ho they’re talking about.

Jae-in takes exception to Ki-seok’s attitude, “You can’t judge someone just because he’s a single father. It’s out of line to say that he’s not even worth considering.” Ki-seok grumbles that he feels like the bad guy, which could have been avoided if Jung-in had reconciled with him sooner. Ki-seok grabs Jung-in’s hand to announce, “We’re thinking about getting married. Can I count on your help?” Jae-in squelches her surprise with a smile and says nothing.

Jung-in walks Ki-seok to the street and when he asks, “What will become of us,” she tells him, “It’s late.” Ki-seok wonders if she’s talking about them and pulls Jung-in into a hug that she doesn’t return. Ki-seok tries to convince Jung-in, “Let’s be more in love. I’ll do better.”

Back in her apartment, Jung-in asks Jae-in if she’s disappointed. Jae-in admits that she’s disappointed with Ki-seok and feels badly about Ji-ho. Jae-in asks if Jung-in has made up her mind and when she shakes her head, Jae-in promises, “Just know that I have your back no matter what.” Jung-in tears up when Jae-in gives her a sisterly hug.

In the morning, Ye-seul warns her boss not to go into the pharmacy because Ji-ho is in the middle of a serious phone call with a woman. In the back room, Ji-ho tells Jung-in that he knows that Jung-in’s actions were meant to protect him. When Jung-in apologizes, “I’m sorry for liking you,” Ji-ho exclaims, “What a pleasant morning.”

When Chairman Kwon drops off an herbal tonic, Ki-seok invites his father for a cup of coffee. In Ki-seok’s office, Chairman Kwon warns his son to cut ties with people who cling to him because he works at a bank, “You must be objective…Blindly believing in them will drive you off a cliff.”

Chairman Kwon informs Ki-seok that when Principal Lee retires, he’ll work for the foundation. Ki-seok is shocked when his father asks him to bring Jung-in home for a visit. Chairman Kwon laughs and asks if they broke up but Ki-seok answers that he’s marrying Jung-in.

After another intense basketball game, Ji-ho announces that he’s headed home. Ki-seok urges him to join the team for dinner and there’s an uncomfortable pause until Ji-ho agrees. Hyun-soo offers Ji-ho a ride but he decides to go with Ki-seok.

During the drive, Ki-seok asks Ji-ho why the identity of the woman that he’s seeing is a secret from Hyun-soo. Ki-seok envies the excitement of a new relationship and Ji-ho asks, “Not for you anymore?”

Ki-seok admits, “The honeymoon phase is over in about a month anyway. Once that ends, you just keep dating each other unless something happens.” When Ki-seok confirms that he’s been with his girlfriend for a long time, Ji-ho points out, “But then you could fall out of love.”

Ki-seok thinks that Ji-ho is talking about cheating, something that he would never do, but he would break up with his girlfriend if she ever cheated. When Ji-ho asks if Ki-seok could let her go, Ki-seok confesses, “I wouldn’t let go so easily…”

Ji-ho ignores a phone call but Ki-seok suspects that it’s the mystery woman and urges him answer. It’s Jung-in, who’s checking to see if Ji-ho is at the pharmacy because she has something to say. Ji-ho tells her that he just finished his basketball game and Jung-in guesses that he’s with Ki-seok. When Jung-in offers to hang up, Ji-ho pleads, “Don’t hang up.”

 
COMMENTS

It’s impossible to ignore how differently Jung-in behaves whenever Ki-seok is around. She’s tense, unhappy and overall miserable with Ki-seok but he doesn’t see it. Ki-seok seems to think that if he protests long enough, he can get Jung-in to agree to get married. What Ki-seok can’t see is how Jung-in behaves when he’s not around, she’s like a different person.

Back in Episode 4, Jung-in and Ki-seok sat on her couch when she asked him for a break. They sat as far apart as possible and Jung-in was stiff and uncomfortable. In contrast, Jung-in sits on that same couch with Ji-ho while Jae-in and Young-jae are out to pick up drinks. Even though they are seated just as far apart as Jung-in and Ki-seok were, Jung-in prepared some tea and she is relaxed and willing to make eye contact with Ji-ho. It’s Ji-ho who can’t relax yet he still manages to joke with Jung-in and gets her to smile.

It’s the same thing with the hugs. Ki-seok pulls Jung-in into a tight hug after meeting with her and Jae-in, even though Jung-in does nothing to encourage him. Jung-in sighs and rolls her eyes as Ki-seok promises to do better and it’s painful to watch him cling to her. When Jung-in returns to her apartment, Jae-in comforts her with another hug and Jung-in hugs her sister back and smiles amid her tears. It’s not that Jung-in is a cold woman, it’s that she no longer has romantic feelings for Ki-seok. Jung-in hasn’t been willing to admit that to Ki-seok, instead determined to break up with him without citing a specific reason. Even though she now has feelings for Ji-ho, that’s not the only reason that Jung-in wants to be free.

It’s worrisome to know Ki-seok’s perspective about relationships as explained to Ji-ho on that drive to the post-game dinner. Relationships get comfortable and continue if there’s no good reason to end them. That’s an awfully low standard and explains why Jung-in is so underwhelmed by Ki-seok’s suggestion of marriage. It sounds as if Ki-seok has no idea how to love Jung-in properly, which is the reason that Jae-in never warmed up to Shi-hoon. Well, there are may reasons for that but no one knows them, yet.

I get the feeling that Ki-seok never treasured Jung-in, he just continued to see her because there wasn’t a good reason not to. Ji-ho is on a different plane. Ji-ho is willing to suffer an unwanted separation and battles his temptations for Jung-in’s sake. Ji-ho does treasure Jung-in and is willing to let her go unlike Ki-seok, who won’t even consider breaking up with Jung-in. Unfortunately, Jung-in’s parents think more like Ki-seok and now that Chairman Kwon has offered Principal Lee a post-retirement position, they’re even more anxious to see their daughter married to his son.

As gruff and unpleasant as Chairman Kwon can be, if you strip away how he speaks, what he has to say makes lots of sense. Chairman Kwon is actually quite wise and preaches caution, with good reason. Marriage is a big decision and a bad choice leads to a difficult life. Ki-seok should be cautious at work because personal feelings interfere with sound decisions. I’m finding myself warming up to the man even though his delivery could use some work.

One parallel that I find adorable is the father and son connection with Jung-in. These two fell for Jung-in at first sight and can’t stop thinking about her. Eun-woo can’t wait to see her again and when he heard that Ji-ho was at a friend’s house, he instinctively knew he was talking about Jung-in. That nighttime conversation between Eun-woo and Jung-in moved Ji-ho to tears because it must have been so rewarding to know that the two people in his heart have a bond of their own. Unfortunately, Ki-seok isn’t about to step aside so that Jung-in can find happiness with someone else, especially not a man like Ji-ho, who’s a single father. Ki-seok’s refusal to acknowledge that Ji-ho is a serious romantic rival shows just how clueless he truly is.

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The way Ji-Ho's eyes gaze towards Jung-In through the mirror when she was talking to his son literally made me overwhelmed with emotion and cry. Such good acting! Also hats off to the director because i love loveee the cinematography in this drama, how it changes according to the moods, actor etc <3

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Scrolled down to the comments just to talk about this scene. Jung Hae In was brilliant here!

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This scene was perfect portrayal I can’t even begin to describe the emotions it brings. When the camera panned towards JiHo looking at JeungIn as if he can’t bring himself to believe this is happening or wish for something like this to happen and then a few seconds later he looks away fighting back tears. Such a powerful scene.

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It's kind of frustrating how Ki Seok takes what Jung In said to him, it goes through one ear and it goes back out directly by the other... She wants a break : Here, I give you vitamins for your stress. She wants to break up : "You're not seeing somebody else, so it's a misunderstanding". He really brushes all she said aside like it was nothing.
In the same time, I would like Jung In to be more firm. For the phone call, she could say to him that she was not alone and she couldn't speak at this moment. He deserves a better excuse than "for no reasons". Ji Ho is not the reason but there are a lot : she doesn't feel anything for him, it's the opposite she's feeling unhappy, she doesn't want to marry him, etc.
The conversations between Ji Ho and Ki Seok are pretty intense. You can see that Ji Ho wants to be honest and direct but he can't because of Jung In, he doesn't want her to be hurt.
I like those close to him : the pharmacy workers, his friends, his parents and overall his son :D
Jae-in can be pretty insensitive. Young-jae is trying to protect his friend and she never listens to him. But I'm happy that she knows now because she will help her sister :)

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^ YAAAS TeriYaki, preeach!

seeing ki-seok and jung-in now really makes me wonder how they were in the beginning of the relationship. when ki-seok was talking in the car that he wanted to married because "you just keep dating each other unless something happens" =___= c'mon ki-seok, seriously? I like that ji-ho didn't like that answer and pressed further.

another thing that I really enjoyed this ep was jae-in's response. I liked that she was perceptive enough to see that jung-in is the one ji-ho is in love with. and that whole dinner conversation when ki-seok was so obviously belittling and looking down on ji-ho... she held back at the first few jabs. but after ki-seok kept attacking ji-ho's status as a single father, she spoke up. I feel like ki-seok isn't the type to see that he's being extremely judgmental so she made the right judgment call in letting it go. ALSO, when he asked her to support their marriage??? like hold on there, jung-in has been saying no this whole time. why do you keep bringing up marriage immediately when you should really be addressing the problems in your relationship, dude? I appreciated that jae-in just awkwardly laughed it off and purposely didn't answer. like- "no way I'm supporting you. I'm supporting my sister."

later after ki-seok leaves, how she hugged jung-in and just said "I've got your back." it's just great. I feel like jung-in obviously cared about what jae-in thinks because she asked if she was disappointed. and jae-in didn't admonish her or put her down. just calmly offers supports and hugs her. I love that so much.

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It's a relief to me that Jae In didn't put her own interests first, because she made it obvious that she was also interested in Ji Ho. I hope sister-love will out-manoeuvre self-interest all the way!

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I have been wondering if Jae-in actually is interested in the pharmacist or if she just likes to throw that around. She seems to say it mostly to get a rise out of Young-jae at this point.

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@csmith
It seemed that she was interested in Ji Ho, because from the very first moment of seeing him at the basketball game that the girls went to, Jae In was commenting about him and suggesting to Jeong In that she (Jae In) should chat him up. Jeong In told her to behave.

Since then, she's been consistent in being more interested if he is mentioned in conversation. This was all before she put 2-and-2 together that Jeong In was the other party Ji Ho liked.

However, it was Young Jae that Jae In first seemed to have had more conversation with, and so he was the first among the guys that she befriended.

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Oh this Ki-seok. Someone please tell him votes don’t get you marriage. He is trying to get people to support him while making no effort getting the support of the woman who he wants to marry. He is so clueless.
No wonder his dad talks to him that way. He knows his son.

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I missed something. Does Youngjae know that Jung-in is the woman Ji-ho likes?

Anyway, I can't stand the way the break-up is going but I can totally relate. Was in a 10-year-relationship before I finally called it quits. My only regret was that I didn't end it sooner. It's true you only get some perspective after the situation is over.

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No, only jae in knows. But i think hyun soo is getting the hint too. It is only a matter of time before everyone knows.

Some say why can't JI break up for good. It has been 7 long years. It is not that easy. It seems both especially GS feels that they will end up married anyway. It will only now that he will treasure JI once he learns that there is somebody making her happy. And to someoen who he thinks is not even one to consider as rival.

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It does seem like YoungJae knows or maybe he has sensed that the woman JiHo likes is JeongIn but he can’t confirm it because JiHo has not confided to him about it.

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Thanks for the re-cap!
Ki-seok, as a character is very frustrating, but I think his character is positioned *exactly* how he is for that.
It seems the obvious comparison to make is with PrettyNoona's Lee Gyu-min, the Female lead's crazy ex.
("Clingy, Ex-boyfriend" seems to be a go-to for the writer, Kim Eun.)
Ki-seok, though, already appears to be far more important to the story. He actually has relationships with the other characters. Especially his father, who also serves an interesting role. He is relatively easy to understand and way more relatable (But that isn't saying much, given what a nut Gyu-min was.)
Ultimately, though the comparison can be made, the differences between them put them in very different roles.
There are definitely some very fundamental similarities in many of the characters in both dramas. But the differences make for more reasonable and interesting character motivations, I think. Hope that's a theme. We'll see.....

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If JH liked JI at first sight, the same with his son. The conversation with JI and EW is really adorable. Some say that there is nothing good with JI's character. But how come the father and son liked her the moment they see her. She might be seen as cold, selfish but i do think that there is something in her that these 2 can see. And i hope JI's redeeming qualities will be shown more once made up her mind. This might be a slow burn type of drama but i am currently too obsessed with it. Waiting for wed and thurs is so hard. Even watching other dramas. I am curious how the meeting of JI and GS's father will go. She does not want GS to be there. I hope we can see the fearless and strong JI. And i also hope this week will be start for them to be together. There will be a lot of obstacles but i believe their love will help them get through.

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Thanks @teriyaki.
While I can understand that Jeong In's parents will become more interested in getting her marriage to Ki Seok going quickly,
I'm wondering about Chairman Kwon.

He has been unchanging in his attitude that Jeong In is not good enough for Ki-seok, so why is he offering the job at his foundation to Principal Lee in advance. Does this no go against wanting their children/families to be distant rather than related? He seems pretty shrewd, therefore I'm wondering what objective he has, and if there's a twist.

This show requires watching with patience and meticulous attention. There were subtle moves that spoke of more than just what was said. The thing I noticed was that when Jeong In first said on the phone to Ki Seok that they should break up, Ji Ho moved towards her, perhaps in shock or to protest... but she backed away from him while her eyes were on him but while still listening to Ki Seok. She was establishing that she was making her own decision. It just so happened that she was saying it in front of Ji Ho, but it was a decision that would have been made even if Ji Ho had not been in the picture. I felt in any case that she was establishing her independence.

Seeing her move away from him, Ji Ho left the apartment to stand outside. I was thinking he might have taken her movement the wrong way, and might have left altogether, but he didn't. It would be an interesting character study from all the little expressions and body language.

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"This show requires watching with patience and meticulous attention" is an excellent encapsulation of why APS dramas are catnip to me!

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I think chairman Kwon offered the position for two reasons 1) he is qualified and knows the sector 2) he is telling him that position is his and is not related to their children being married. He is basically giving him the carrot so the father won’t pressure for the marriage.
I think Kwon will only yield if his son truly loves the woman. He doesn’t see that in his son.

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Exactly. This move was meant to get dad to slow down on pushing the marriage. Somehow I don't think he will catch a clue with a net. :p

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The scene you describe - was so beautifully done. That one step forward and her moving backward but eyes locked. Loved that scene.
Even though he is the catalyst he is not the reason she is breaking up. She knows that she may or maynot have a chance with JiHo or if their relationship will go farther, but she is deciding to end it.

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Thank God I found a good drama to get invested on. This is really a good drama. I also love Something In the Rain by the same writer but by far this drama is better written. The build up of emotions in each episode is well-done that you can emphatize the characters esp. the leads.

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I agree with you. Can't help but compare it with Something In The Rain because of the similarities, and One Spring Night is definitely better written written.
Also, I feel like Jung Hae In is more comfortable than he was with Son Ye Jin, the chemistry is 10 times stronger and to me it's Han Ji Min's best performance so far based on what I saw from her.

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Thank you, Teriyaki for the recaps! I find both fathers to be a challenge- and I realize a huge part of that is cultural because korean parents can (and do) exert more control over their children's lives.

I think Jung in is very aware of the difficulties ahead, and I think it was very clever of the writer to use the parallel storyline of Seo in to show how little power even smart successful women have in korean society

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It sounds like the pressure is literally suffocating. I understand and do not blame Jung In's choices.

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This show is too good, I sometimes think that Jung In should be more firm, but then I realize how insanely hard was it for me to get out of a relationship even though only hatred was left and same goes for Seo-in. I just hope Seo-in can share her troubles with her sisters and mom! I could see them all joining forces to help each other. I love all the three sisters bonding!
~Waiting for wednesdays~ can you come faster?

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~Waiting for wednesdays~ can you come faster?

I agree! For once, time is too slow :p

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Yes, I also wish the women in the family join the forces... and manage to cleverly release Seo In... and punish the abusive money-spending snake...

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I felt that too. After breaking up, why did she call him. Even if she did, why didn’t she tell him they broke up in front of her sister. Or after. She basically gave Ki-Seok another opening.
I do have a problem with the way she broke up with him. She should have given him a good reason. Some kind of closure so he can move on. 7 years is a long time and wish she gave him a little more respect out of courtesy. Even a simple ‘I don’t love you enough to marry you’ would make him realize that marriage is not about convenience. Or something. Anything.
Even though I am annoyed and frustrated with Ki-Seok I don’t hate him (yet). He is the product of the society. He is the same as his father and her father. Men who think a certain way. He is young so his prejudices aren’t loud yet, but it’s only a question of time.

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I agree with you about Ki seok- he's still in the early stages of male dominance- but you can see it's there.

Jung in calling Ki seok was all about protecting Ji ho, which he validated the next morning in their phone call

I completely agree with Jung ins handling of the breakup because ....once you articulate a reason for the breakup, you've essentially given the other party a platform for negotiation. (.....you don't like my friends? I promise to see less of them so let's stay together) That is why citing irreconcilable differences should be acceptable, especially in a dating relationship!

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Oh interesting, I finally understand what I did wrong in my break up! And why it dragged so long! LOL! But thanks for this point of view, i never knew this was the reason behind Jung in's approach.

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I like how all the characters are driven with different motivations and how it’s all tied to the way society has influenced them.
As you see patterns you can identify all those who align with the society/status quo and the others who want to question it.

JiHo- I think he feel for her when she told him that having a child (single parent) doesn’t make him any less decent. How much he must have wanted to hear that. His entire life he has been living under the radar so he can avoid the society’s judgement. Even his parents offer to keep his child so he can go get a woman. They never told him ‘what’s wrong with having a child. Find a woman who will love the way you are’.
I see why he was overwhelmed with emotions. Finally his suppressed feeling have come to surface.
I like how we are given a little more information about JiHo. He was a little genius when young like how his son is now. And somehow he now ended up living a very boring life. Same as Hers. I can’t wait to see both of them get back their original self and be happy.

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Oh please. There better be a happy ending for SeoIn.
Am glad the sisters have each other’s back and will stay by their side no matter what.

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I totally agree. The reason I really like this series is because it talks about everything that's wrong with the society's perception. "Society" in Asian countries tends to put alot of pressure on how to live your life in the most upright manner. Suck up all the curve balls.
This show talks about people going against it.. and trying to experience life. And the biggest example of it would be Jae-In who does exactly what girls are not expected to do.
It starts from her hair being all wild and curly (I love that) to her pursuing the man she wants. She is constantly asked by Youg-gaein is she always so forthcoming! But she is living exactly how we (women are thought not to!)
Never ask a man out first, always look presentable, let a man pay for your meals. And worse, don't be smarter than your man!

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I think he fell for her even before that... That's why he didn't reply to her original text as a ploy to see her again. I think it was her straight forward exchange with him, where she said it was hard to trust people now a days. He gave her his # right after that. :) I think her raw honesty was refreshing and he liked it. Add to that, she had exactly the right response to his revelation about his kid. He was a goner.

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Yes, he was smitten from the very beginning! And he's an adorable smitten!

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Yes CS he was smitten from the first encounter but he fell deep after that response from her.
Again, this is all in my head. He is a goner :)

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They found each other. She still asked him if he would let her sleep at his place.

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Jung-in better get her fighting spirit back. Thanks as always for the insightful recap.

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Ki-seok you don't really need to ask people to support your marriage, if the women is all in for it!
I feel that Ji-Ho is now ready to create and stir up some trouble with Ki-Seok. His whole conversation with owner of pharmacy, where she asks him to go and be more competitive, proves that.
So far he has been meek out of respect for their relationship, but now I feel since Ki-Seok challenged him, he won't back down! I am so excited to see that side of the character.

Jung-in don't hug a man when you have broken up with him. Just let it go! But her conversation with Eun-U took my heart away too. I think any single parent would want such a partner for themselves and their child.

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I have to go back and check- I thought it very clear that he forced a hug on her and she did not engage or reciprocate.

He (Ki seok) has a absolutely no real interest in how she feels

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And that just pisses me off so much. I know they have been together awhile, but they are not at the point where he should know pick up on how she feeling. That is bullshit and he needs to be called on it and it needs to get into his head.

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come on. This is that guy who thinks collecting family votes betters his chance of marriage!!
*rolling eyes*

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Blue,

I laugh not the cry.

He thinks Shi hoon is a beacon of advice on marriage.

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Ouch! and you make an excellent point. Ki seok is officially an idiot

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Actually fault lies in both of them. If she feels unheard, she needs to voice it out! No person is a mind reader.

But this relationship itself is shown to be an utter failure, with both of them failing to understand and feel what the other is feeling!

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JI and KS have been in a long term, physical relationship; a marriage without a registration. We know that because of their early relationship, KS changed from being a musician to a business/banker (which pleased his father). Did he change because JI wanted him to become a stable and successful man? And the intended consequences led JI to find him a boring suit? Or does her older sister's bad marriage scare her against any marriage prospect? We don't know because JI is still conflicted about really ending it with KS and/or conflicted about the attraction to JH and the greater conflicts of dating a single parent. JI seems to be a person who wants to control things around her but does not have the confidence to make strong, permanent decisions.

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Jung In doesn't seem the kind to control people life. She didn't force her sister to find something to do. I don't see her asking Ki Seok to find a stable job and give up music for her. She seems to take people like they are, like Ji Ho who is a single dad. But we don't know about their past.

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Ki-seok seems to not have much respect for the people around him. He doesn't seem to respect his father, or Jung-in or his friends. It irks me that while Ji-ho's real friends try and protect him and keep his status as a single dad private, Ki-seok has felt pretty free to share his secret. He told Jung-in (who already knew but not in any detail) and he felt free to tell Jae-in, too, even though it wasn't any of her business. Young-jae hadn't told her. Grrrr. If he thinks it's something so shameful and pitiful, he shouldn't be spreading it around when it's not his story to tell.

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Fairly certain it was Ki-seok's own words at the end of the episode that served as the straw that broke the camel's back. Jiho may have thought he may not be the best catch, but he is certainly better for Jung-in, than Ki-seok.

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Brilliant observation! I completely missed that

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So, why is it such a big deal in Korea to be a single dad? Child out of wedlock? Family registerrs? What??

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In his case, he became a father but did not marry and the woman is missing. From the outside, it may look like he wronged the woman?
And it is a disadvantage because no family would want their daughter to marry a man who has a child. I mean, their daughter becomes a mother just by marrying.
If you see, his mother tries to find him a match, a grocery store owner who is a single mother herself. Somehow that is acceptable since they are on equal footing.

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Here's an article i found about unwed mothers in korea....must be the same for guys. Ji ho is very fortunate with his parents

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/stigma-single-mother-south-korea-180226144516720.html

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It's crazy.

It's like it was a big crime... Poor kids, they did nothing!

If they give real sex education in school, it could have helped too.

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Actually, if you think about it, it is not THAT easy for a single-mom to get married too. Which man would be openly willing to accept a single-mom, with her kid or more than one kid in tow? Unless the kid is quite grown up already, late teens almost an adult soon. I'm not saying it's impossible for a single-mom to marry again, but the chances are not as high. Many men (especially in Asian societies) will not be willing to accept a woman and 'extra baggage' along with her.

So if you're a single-mom or single-dad, whether as a divorcee/widow or you were unwed, in a conservative Asian culture, you're probably going to have a harder time getting married.

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(adding on), most men (or women) are not keen to marry someone who already has a child, because people usually aren't comfortable with the idea of raising a child who isn't theirs (related by blood).

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Good thing he didn’t put the kid in an Orphanage. Or worse, just abandoned him somewhere.

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@mei123db @virulenza This is a very different way of thinking for me personally. Our societal 'deal-breakers' are very different from those in OSN, but just as insurmountable, with interracial and Interfaith unions being the toughest challenge. Also, our society is pretty fragmented, so we find it hard to agree on a common enemy, much less family mores.

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The article u posted mentioned about being a black sheep in relation to being a single parent. I think this is an important aspect in most Asian families where children are expected to behave well, excel in school, things like that. Anything that goes against accepted norms reflect a failure not just for the child but for the parents as well. So yeah, having a child out of wedlock is a big no-no.

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Is this drama getting long and draggy and frustrating or what. I watched til about ep 3, and I'm not sure if I should continue or not. Jung Hae In is a pretty good actor, but for some reason he keeps getting cast into these roles, just like his previous noona romance, in these roles in shows that are like 'forbidden romance' or 'conflicted romance'? It seems tiresome and frustrating.

Does this show get better after episode 3? The female lead herself comes across as frustrating too...

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I don't think it's getting long and draggy. It's just the type of story that is about relationships and feelings. It's about the dialogues and the details.

"He keeps getting cast into these roles", it's only his second role like that and I think it's because the PD tried to reunite the same team as Pretty Noona.

But he played a friend of a vampire, a bodyguard, a police man, an army officer in prison, a king- a warrior-an intellectual in different sageuks.

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Yup I agree it was a wrong phrasing to say "he keeps getting cast into these roles" and I understand he has played other roles too. But something in the rain (pretty noona) aired just about a year ago too and it is still fairly recent.

For example,there are certain actors who also getting cast into the "sweet boy next door" roles and some actresses are also often in the "sweet and cute innocent girl next door/sweet neighbour I grew up with". If two shows came out fairly recently in that same type of "feel/vibe", then yes it does feel similar.

In this case,
He still happens to be in a similar role where he and a woman fall in love when they "shouldn't".

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I think it’s great for Jung Hae In to portray a character thats socially relevant. The show is thought provoking. And the storyline and portrayal is nuanced and subtle that requires rapt attention which I think is important to the progression of the plot. So no, I don’t find the main characters frustrating or boring at all. As someone has said, the characters are flawed and depicts a realism which is a refreshing change to the “usual fluffy romcoms”.

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👏👏👏👏👏

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Funnily, Jung Hae In was also “the cute school boy who also likes the female lead” in Reply 1988 and Goblin. Can totally see why he gets casted in those kinda roles which were created just to get the male leads jealous 😂

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This show! No words, just feelings, very good feelings!
1. Ji Ho and Jung In: the chemistry is off the charts! I love their conversations. How honest they are with each other. And you can feel the tension, romantic tension (and sexual too). The actors are both doing a very good job!
2. I love the sisterly bond. They have very different personalities but still get along and understand each other. I love that they deeply care for each other. I wish we could see more of theit interactions, especially the three of them.
3. I surprisingly appreciate Ki seok and his father's relationship. They seem quite close and they seem to know each other very well. I like their father-son relationship. But I cant help but wonder abt the Mom? Is she the reason behind Ki Seok's views on relationships?
Overall, love love this show and crossing fingers it stays that way. Please, please Kdrama Gods!

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An interview by Swoon :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iii68RlNhEo

They're so cute together :D

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Reality can be frustrating.

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