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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

LollyPip

Currently recapping: Abyss, Arthdal, My Absolute Boyfriend, Search Query: WWW

Her Private Life: I just finally finished the last few episodes, after some life stuff smacked me in the face and put me off of drama-watching for about a month. I’m so glad I did though, because with everything that got thrown into the last two weeks’ worth of episodes, I think it felt a lot less jarring to be able to marathon it all at once. Unlike some complains I’ve seen around the internet, I liked how the childhood connection between Ryan and Deok-mi dovetailed into their adult lives. Rather than give the feeling that they met as kids so they were Meant To Be, the show presented it as a true coincidence that they met again and happened to have this past. I loved that everyone talked about the issue like grown-ass adults, and how it brought them all closure and healing and brought their families together in a way that made them all stronger. Deok-mi and Ryan were adorable to the end, and their honest and supportive relationship will be one that stays with me for a very long time.

Produce X 101: As an enthusiastic fan of performance competition shows since the very first episode of American Idol, I can’t for the life of me figure out why it took me this long to start watching the Produce series. I’ve been aware of them from the first season, knew the winners, even became a fan of several WANNA ONE members. But I’ve been hearing so much hype about the idol-hopefuls in this season’s show that I started watching while I was sick, and I was hooked hard from the first few minutes. For two weeks, I’ve been trying to balance my very real need to play recapping catch-up after a serious illness (I’m fine now!) with my intense desire to watch just a few more minutes of these sweet, earnest boys being ambitious and hopeful and humble, and making mistakes and fighting insecurity, then going out there and just killing it. I have my favorites, as I’m sure all viewers do (Sohn Dong-pyo! Song Hyung-joon! Kim Yo-han!), but all of the boys are just wonderful. The show is so different than other versions I’ve seen… the trainers don’t coddle them, they test and push and challenge them, often quite harshly, fully aware that if they do make it into the final eleven that they’ll look back on this process as the easy part. But I’m so impressed by every single one of the contestants – their drive, their dedication, and their willingness to move past their fears and weaknesses for the sake of their dream, is so inspiring.

 

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Rescue Me 2: Is it just the 1.5x speed I marathoned the last 6 episodes with or did this show get a bit crazy near the end? I still don’t know how to feel about the fact that the Pastor went cuckoo trying to convince himself that he’s an executor of “divine justice” (where justice = whatever is beneficial to him). Insanity gives him a pass on all the horrible things he did. It’s a weird message, because he was already a disgusting person to start with. On the other hand, Professor Choi and his gang were just so organized and evil that I was rooting for anyone to take them down near the end. I was jumping allegiances left and right. From smalltown thug to baby-abandoning bar girl to power-abusing police chief to… pedophile pastor. Whatever it takes to stop the scam. So it’s funny (not really! I hate you, OCN!) that the money still turned to ashes in the end. I’m 100% convinced now that someone on the production team was pushing to do a very dark slice-of-life drama, because why else would this show make me feel attached to these annoying townspeople, only to watch them all struggling separately alone in the end?!

Produce X 101: I was gonna marathon this later, away from heartbreak and hype, but LollyPip’s energy is so infectious. (Welcome to the Produce world!) Though I won’t be responsible for any and all public meltdowns during the finale. That is uhm… my evil twin. She gets *really* into the tragic finale wailing sometimes.

Great Escape: I badly needed something to laugh about this week, so I went back and gobbled around 9 hours of this. I’m so in love at how elaborate and hilarious the sets are. The show keeps getting better too, now that the cast have settled in to their variety personas, my favorite being Kim Dong-hyun aka the scaredy cat MMA fighter with amnesia. How he can keep a straight face while claiming that jumping at every sound and falling on the floor is just survival instinct is beyond me. If variety shows gave out acting awards, he’d get a daesang for sure.

 

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One Spring Night: I’m not sure how, but I got a little behind in this drama last week. It won’t last, but it’s nice to have a chunk of episodes to look forward to, instead of trying to drag two episodes out over the course of the week which has been my previous MO. I love where the drama is going, though, with Jung-in articulating that it’s Ji-ho’s warm-heartedness that she values most. And that scene where she told him she loved him and he had to bang out of the restaurant to hold back tears — so perfectly done. My heart was pulled between smiling over their sweetness and wanting to cry too.

 
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Angel's Last Mission: Love: A-/B+: Are angels "anatomically correct"? Or is that why Dan really really wants to become human? Did they deliberately name the ballet company after the dancing hippos movie or does the name "Fantasia" have some other significance?

Arthdal: B/B:

Voice 3: B/B: It's sad that I'm happy about shows rising to the level of ordinary-ness. But this week we had more action and less office politics and mental issues.

Abyss: B/B+: Day 15 was largely the "filler before the storm"; I could do with less drunk comic relief. Ending fell flat. But I don't think show was as bad as some people say, just different.

Investigative Couple / Partners for Justice: A-/B: Search for kidnap victim was like a better version of Voice 3, except supporting cast overacted.

Joseon Survival: B+/B-: Silly me, I thought the girl brought her hand-phone to Joseon to use an eclipse predictor app or somesuch to awe the locals, not play music videos for gisaengs. Show wanders between action, comedy & political intrigue, probably trying to please everybody but doing a so-so job of it. Comedy doesn't mix well with murder or attempted rape. I vote more archery.

Secret Life of My Secretary: C+/B+

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Arthdal: Your silence says a lot 😂

Joseon Survival: Yeah the mix isn’t working so well. The archer hero needs to get his act together, the killer adapted way faster than him.

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A fantasia is a type of musical composition. Encyclopedia Britannica provides the following definition:

Fantasia, also called fantasy or fancy, in music, a composition free in form and inspiration, usually for an instrumental soloist; in 16th- and 17th-century England the term was applied especially to fugal compositions (i.e., based on melodic imitation) for consorts of string or wind instruments. Earlier 16th-century fantasias for lute or keyboard consisted of short sections based on one or more musical motives. In England the fantasy or fancy for keyboard, lute, or viola had a late flowering at the time of Henry Purcell (1659–95).

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The Secret Life of My Secretary: I remember so many romcoms going downhill after the great reveal and the leads got together BUT NOT THIS SHOW. We've got a satisfying ending to a satisfying show that I started with little to no expectations. Min-ik may not become the President now, but he managed to keep the important people around him. Gal-hee may sometimes put on makeup and doll herself up for her dates but she did not receive the over-the-top heroine makeover because she is already pretty in her own way. The fact that Min-ik was not magically cured but whenever he can see faces, he would always run to Gal-hee was a PERFECT way to end the show. I am going to miss the aweeesome Veronica Park and her quirkiness with Dae-ju.
Rating: 9/10 for a great fish cult romcom, 10/10 for Jin Kin-joo and Kim Young-Kwang's chemistry, and 10/10 for Veronica Park.

Angel’s Last Mission: Love: The only thing that keeps me watching this show is SHS's aweeesome performance. I just fast forwarded ep 21-22 for the amnesia nonsense card show just suddenly pull out. Can't believe I watched an hour of a drama in just 5 minutes. The only thing I liked this week was Yeon-seo calling Dan and Sunbae Hu cult members.
Rating: 10/10 for Shin Hye-sun's acting, 0/10 for Dan's not-so-noble idiocy, and 2/10 for this week's eps

Search Query: WWW: I am now more invested in the makjang What's Wrong with My Mother-in-Law? than the show itself. Scarlett continues to shine brighter than everyone else in this drama and her possible romance with makjang actor Seol Ji-Hwan might be the cutest thing ever. I hope Ga-gyeong finally becomes free from her husbands family and be the awesome woman she once was. The Barro team in the workplace were really great and Tammy not wanting to get married is also great but now I am getting tired of the main romance.
Rating: 10/10 for the makjang, 10/10 for Scarlett, 7.5/10 for this week's eps, and 5/10 for shining shimmering romance with Mo-gun

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After admiring Park Mo Gun’s fine form so blatantly, I could tell Bae Ta Mi’s self-control was going to tumble despite her no-marriage stance. And it did. 😂 It was refreshing to have the director flip the tables on the ‘male gaze’ to having the woman undress the man in her head.

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I honestly love the role reversals in WWW. The lens flare they overuse with Jang Ki-young, not so much.

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I died when Dae Gu said “Awesome” when Veronica got him cake 🤣🤣

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@hotcocoagirl,
Dae Gu got the perky intonation just right. I don't know which cracks me up more: Veronica Park herself, or others' impersonations of her. If only we could have gotten an "Awesome" out of Do Min-ik. Jang Do-han slung industrial-strength aegyo at his fellow prosecutor in LOOKOUT that totally slayed me (along with Kim Young-kwang in his spiffy suits). ;-)

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In terms of saying the aweeesome line, Do Min-ik is the only one left who has not done it yet 🤣

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Our puppy adapted so well with Veronica's lifestyle I am so proud of him 🤣

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This comment makes me want to watch both Secret life and WWW. I'm in a kdrama slump and haven't checked out anything new, but maybe I'm ready now. Thank you!

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One of the best things about Secret Life is that it doesn't take itself seriously.

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^I 100% agree with this

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Haha, I think that's exactly what I need right now.

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You should check out both and see if they will help you out of your slump!

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I will! I'm off for the day, so I think I might start with secret life :D

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Enjoy TSLOMS, the fish cult, and Veronica Park! Have a nice drama watching day, @sneha!

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Search WWW - watching Tammy not wanting to date / marry feels like watching Song JK & Song KH lives played out on screen. I can feel her pain in seeing her future being divided into herself-husband-career-children-home-extended family-etc vs just herself & career now.

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I don't really know much about the Song-Song couple but Tammy's dilemma is just so true-to-life. I can feel her pain.

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The makjang drama! I crack up everytime they show it because it's too makjang but Scarlett is so invested in it. Lmao. And the actor still remains as Marco to me. I am not used to him very tidied up and smiling. But I really like that he met his fan in Scarlett because he looked genuinely touched. Why do I have a feeling that she'll make his profile in Barro? Or that she'll insist in becoming his temp manager. I won't mind because they look cute together. However, I still can't get over the fact that they used dreamy filter on Scarlett+GK scene. And her younger self looked so head over heels in admiration for GK. I wonder.

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I am not thinking too deep with Scarlett and Ga-gyeong's scene but I am thinking it was adoration and idolatry on Scarlett's part but if the show decides to go that way then I will trust the writer's decision.

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Nice to see you here @lollypip! I’m watching:

THE SECRET LIFE OF MY FISH (Ep.14): I’m still catching up. Two more episodes to collect a bean. Awesome! 🐠

THE HORSE AND HIS CARROT BOY (Ep. 8): I lost interest in the power struggle a long time ago, ff button is used. I may only be watching for warrior Moobaek and the magic horse. 🥕

JOSEON SURVIVAL (Ep. 6): The young couple are cuuuute. Also, Maxim Gold PPL. ☕️

I’m gonna watch the latest episodes of NOKDU FLOWER tonight. \^O^/

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I dropped Joseon Survival on episode 2. How did they make Maxim Gold PPL in a historical setting??

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Probably a wise decision...

Time travel. Impress Joseon bandits with a heavenly drink to save your friend (I still don’t know why the leads are asking help from the same bandits who sold the kid sister as a gisaeng but whatever).

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I see... it sounds too much for me to pick up anyway.

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I don't think they know that fact.

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Re JS @wishfultoki. Yes the couple is very sweet. Song Won-Seok has a great smile as we saw when Kkeok-jong and his guys were on the roof spying on the gisaeng dance.
Also, I didn’t pick up that he coffee was identifiable. Pretty clever. Whatever, it was a hit with the Joseon folks.

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The fish! The Fish jokes are funnier than the show. I’m behind, but I guess I will have to catch up.

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CRICKET - Amazing last week. Weak teams strike back and put dominant top 4 teans in a pinch. This is where your experience and mental strength comes into play. AUS , India , Kiwis won matches from difficult situations but England couldn't.

Average this week. Today and tomorrow gonna be fun - only if we see some competitive matches.
England is in trouble and India + Kiwis the last 2 opponents make England chances pretty slim.
Its Cricket - anything can happen.
As Google CEO sunder Pichai said - Cricket is similar to baseball, but better.

I like Test Cricket the most - 5 days - each day 9 hours of play and even then you aren't sure of any particular result. Test Cricket is real test of human character.

Don't have much time for TV shows but did watch whatever i could

Right now excited for Kiwis vs. Australia match within next few hours.

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June - Cricket at top
Any other Month - J-doramas at top

Watashi - Will not work overtime - 8 out of 10 - KAROSHI
Real Issue forced govt to Inact a new Law too. I enjoyed 1st episode. I will leave at time too. Who cares if my boss is still at office or not. In real life it becomes a very delicate matter.
People find you not serious, selfish and even irresponsible for an act which is perfectly your right. yeah.
I don't believe in those after workings hours bonding with colleagues and joining your boss for few drinks - much into the culture of these East Asian Countries.

My Skirt, Where did it Go - I think this show is better than 3 nen A gumi - That show has over the top drama in every episode. Both have cute girls to look at. 3NEN good main theme But Skirt is dealing with good issues too.

Rike Koi - Science of Love - 7.5 out of 10 - So enjoyable. Hope movie gets translated too. Meow is as usual Sly and smart and the most entertaining character.

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Kdrama - Vagabond - wait
I Hate going to work - wait for translation.

Chinese - Excellent Investor - Wasted lot of time on it. As expected, another trash Chinese drama.
Any Korean or Chinese drama with Romance genre - better put it in Trash or porn category.

Just Between lovers - to make things clear - is in LOVE Category - 1st 8 episodes - next 8 are in generic kdrama category.

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Got from Twitter - NISEKOI and

ARE YOU READY HEY YOU GIRL are now Translated. yes yes yes. This is a shoutout to everyone. Watching Hey Girl now and then move on to

Nea Zealand vs. Australia

Best way to beat the summer heat. 43 the temperature - Oh Man. This reminds of me that famous summer heart in 2003 or was it 2005?

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It was 2003 for Europe.
It killed 15000 persons in my country.

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HEY YOU GIRL - Only teenage girls will go Kyaaah Kyaaah. I liked the trailer but yes movie has disappointed me. Cricket Match is more interesting.

@coolgirl ahh. People don't take Heat seriously. I'm regularly getting scold by my mom for my antic because of it.

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I'm scolding mine because she's getting old and not taking it seriously! :)

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I'm after an operation and one advantage of staying in bed is having more time for kdramas 😊 ... the disadvantage is I'm quite tired and sleepy, thus not watching as much as I planned... and my thoughts are often quite scattered... thus shortly:

Spring Night - I'm worried about Seo In. She shouldn't have revealed her Secret. Now it will be very difficult to get out of her marriage.

WWW (up to ep7) - I'm interested in the relationship of Ga Kyung and Hyun and I hope they will go there... (though that makjang actor is quite sweet.. I'm starting being torn 😆)

Angel - Badass Ballerina is baaaack!!! I'm mainly watching for her. And her scenes with Angel.

Secretary - as some Beanies already said, the mystery was ridiculous and the story shouldn't work... but somehow it worked well... and Jin Ki Joo and Kim Young Kwang were adorable till the end. 😊

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I was so surprised when Seo In announced her pregnancy. She had been playing her cards so close to her vest before this. Is it part of a long term plan? And then when it was announced publicly I was worried but she seemed fine.

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I am dreading the fallout as well. Her rotten husband will never let her go....

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No, he won't. I dont think he has wavered on that at all, not even when offered the money.
She has been so careful and smart I hope she has some backup plans up her sleeve.

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I hope she does, too. I am very afraid for her....it was scary to see how eager her dad and her husband were to keep her captive.

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I am assuming that the husband leaked the news to the press?

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@dorotka,
Glad to hear that you are on the mend. Get back in the pink soon, okay? ;-)

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Thank you 😘
I just need to learn to be patient with my body 😆

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I fell into the Abyss but managed to escape the events horizon before the Singularity of Suck closed forever. This was a badly written show with poor characterisation and one of the worst underpinning philosophies I've ever seen. Please, Drama Gods, I'll even eat a Subway sandwich if you give Park Bo-young a decent script.

I haven't seen this week's episodes of Absolute Boyfriend yet but did pick up Arthdal Chronicles for a whole 20 minutes, which puts it at number 2 on my 'Most Quickly Dropped Show' list.

Angel's Last Mission continues to be a C- show with an A+ performance by the ascendant Shin Hye-sun. Once you got over the unnecessary amnesia and lying plotlines, Lee Yeon-seo went back to owning everything and everyone and I remembered why I never dropped this.

I started the promised Fish Watch of Secret Life of my Secretary and so far there has been a disturbing lack of fish. Building up the suspense or do the writers just not know what their show is supposed to be about?
Also Veronica Park should be the lead. The end.

Finally, I picked up Search:WWW because I wanted to glory in the complete lack of pot plants.

And that's the thing about this crop of shows. For all my snark and shade, there's nary a pot plant to be seen. Even Abyss for all its wall-to-wall stupid, didn't have a pot plant problem.

Maybe they really are an endangered species?

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Search:WWW may not have pot plants but holy hell does it have lens flare. Thankfully I was warned that it became a completely different show when Park Morgan showed up, otherwise I'd be wondering what on Earth was going on.

it's like when Jang Ki-yong showed ups or work, they brought in a completely different Director - one who used to work for MTV in 1992. I have no idea why her romance plotline is a bad music video or why they played the tune of Good King Wenceslas throughout their first date. All I know is that the show is wall-to-wall female characters and they're all different. It's no My Fellow Citizens but as far as representation goes, it's worth wading into just for that.

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May be Mo Gun makes her feel like a teenager so she goes 20 years back to the 90s? LOL.

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"it's like when Jang Ki-yong showed ups or work, they brought in a completely different Director - one who used to work for MTV in 1992."
Oh. My. God.
You completely nailed it on why it bothered me!
Yep - MTV style. thank you for a good laugh this morning!

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Let me state the facts, there are two directors of this show: Jung Ji-Hyun, Kwon Young-Il.
Now you can bet who is doing what!

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OMG, are there really two Directors?
Hahaha!

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apparently the two directors don't talk to each other?

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LOL! Jung Ji Hyun directed Mr. Sunshine, I did not hear any complains on the camera work though from that show...
Second one is new or maybe he teleported from 90s or is talking via walki-talky from there so we get the blurred images....

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@oppafangirl
*nods wisely*
Yes, I hear temporal distortions are terrible on film quality. Maybe they should have used a Director from this side of the singularity?

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For some reason 1992 MTV Director cued up 🎶 I was working as a waitress in a cocktail bar 🎶 along with a hazy close ups of eyes.

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were you doing to moves from Saturday Night Fever as you moved between the tables?
(or do I have my years wrong?)

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I'm thinking more Devo like moves, or maybe the back up dancer moves from Addicted to Love?

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After I wrote that I realized SNF was in the 80s - but DEVO - if I remember right they had some crazy music videos.
I remember the TV in the record store playing music videos when MTV started. I was hooked!

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Hahaha! MTV from 1992. That is the perfect description!!

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If anyone wants to know why i dropped Arthdal Chronicles after 20 minutes you can go to my fan wall. And I will probably be writing a blog post on it as well at some point. I'm sure my opinion on the issue will be controversial to some so if you really like Arthdal or think it's mindless fun then don't go and read it.

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What’s the No 1 on your Most Quickly Dropped Show List? 😂 good call on AC because I regret picking it up and I keep watching the train wreck that it is just to see if the story is going to redeem itself and those hours of watching will not go to waste.

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Birth of a Beauty - dropped after about 3 minutes.

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Yeah I have no interest in that one

I think Arthdal is mine. I stopped 10 minutes in.

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@leetennant
Thank you!

Yes SK gets to make its dramas for itself. But equally viewers have the right to on what and how to watch. I am so glad someone else is also conscious of the embedded moral frames.

None of us are perfect - and many of us were sold the stories that justified our own country's injustices. However, the ability to call these out was hard won and important.

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There's a lot of screaming Ma Wang-joon so far in Absolute Boyfriend this week, but does that surprise anyone? 😂

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Spot on about Veronica Park.

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- Completed -

Save Me 2: I feel weird about this one because I went through several states while watching: bored -> annoyed -> frustrated -> hopeful -> pumped up -> serene -> satisfied. The tone is completely different from season 1 and the story got better. It might be one of the rare shows I enjoyed with frustrating characters. The epilogue could've been better in terms of "cameo" and the voice over explaining things that we could figure out. It's still one of my favourite in 2019.

The Secret Life of My Secretary: The fish pulled me out of the story but MI-GH's cuteness got me back for the finale. I wished for more of Veronica Park and Dae Ju saying awesome (maybe his best scene?). Even if I liked the couple, I will remember Veronica Park and the fish for this drama.

- Currently watching -

Angel's Last Mission: I might drop it since I've been reading recaps and fan wall posts for two weeks.

Different Dreams: Finally caught up! The little time jumps really make me feel the resistance movements and the Japanese goverment are having a long fight. The saddest scene so far is the night beach scene.

Nokdu Flower: ep 37-38. I knew JBJ wouldn't stay quiet and he plans now to raise an army! Wouldn't it actually be easier for the Japanese to take control of Joseon (with less blood spilled as possible) and reunite every forces they can find to fight them? This way the cast system would be abolished since peasants are Donghak members and they won't accept aristocrats to have priviledges again. Joseon won't be a civilized country like Japan but will have to set a new system that will suit the population (at least, its majority). YK's expelled status gave him enough time to sit back and have a nice conversation with his mom (who is getting better as time goes by).

One Spring Night: The show is doing a good job showing JI and JH so in love with each other and Mom supporting the eldest sister while her father, GS and SH are the worst people. It gives me hope they will somehow overcome people's judgement and the pressure.

Search: WWW: It looked Cha Hyun was in a love triangle between Ta Mi and Ga Gyung. She's the moral compass in this show (even with anger issues) and I'm asking myself if she can help GG come back as the old self with everyone. Her bickering with Ta Mi is always entertaining! The "team dinner" with Brian, Ta Mi and Morgan reminds me of previous discussions I had about relationships. After this, Ta Mi and Morgan's discussion about what they want in a relationship was my favorite interaction of them.

Perfume: After episode 7 (13-14), I love Ye Rin/Jae Hee more than before! From giving life advices to young folks to loving her two most precious people in the world, she's awesome. She even told Min Suk what he needed to hear. He's looking for affection and misunderstands kindness and a caring behavior as love. He didn't understand it of course...

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He didn't understand it of course but just thinking about it, he must not have loved Ji Na like he claimed last week. With the revelation about he and Yi Do, it feels like Ji Na doesn't have that much importance in the story. I didn't like how episode 8 showed YR and YD spending time together when there was a huge scandal going on. It seemed like they were escaping reality instead of solving the problem and a bad timing to show them on a "date market". Then the last scene, Yi Do claiming Ye Rin as his woman in public without her consent is aggravating the situation. I liked that he respected her private space thoughout the episode but his announcement was divastating. It was selfish of him imo. But it could also lead to Ye Rin's disappearance and give the excuse of guilt/suicide over the scandal since she has little perfume left.

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I didn't mind the escape from reality part. I thought Jae Hee was not aware of the whole situation, she was attacked in the toilet when the reveal happened. Yi Do doesn't care because its false (refer to the 1st half of his press con). And I like Ji Na. She is professional and level-headed.

His confession at the end was abrupt. But narratively it kinda make sense for his character. When he was young he was timid and did not approach the noona he liked and eventually lost her. Right before the press conference, Min Suk told him not to use Ye Rin as his housekeeper as an excuse. I'm glad Yi Do knows that Min Suk and Ye Rin are in a fake relationship, technically he's not stealing his bro's girlfriend. Hahaha

I'm eager to see how JaeHee will react. Her reactions has been on point so far.

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I guess seeing them going around happily was better than stressing because of that.

I like Ji Na too. It's just with everything going on, she seems to not have a lot to do besides the mannequin part.

Yi Do's confession during the press conference bothered me because Ye Rin didn't know he would do that and everyone thinks she's dating Min Suk. As if the writer wanted things to escalate and take huge proportions (media coverage).

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Yep. What bothered me most with the confession was Ye Rin most probably had no clue he was going to do that. The confession will attract more problems than solving the issue in hand. I can't wait to see what happens next. Excited2!

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Same feelings for me Save Me 2: on my top 5 of 2019!
Best frustrating drama ever!
I don't know if i should try Save Me 1: the vibe seems so different. Can i like it after liking so much Save me 2?

Between the spectacular actions scenes on the level of the best spy films and the intense emotional reactions to the revelation of Young Jin's betrayal, Different Dreams is taking for good the n°1 spot in my heart.
I doubt anything else this year will top it!:)

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You can't really compare both seasons since they have different ton and the writing is different. Season 1 has less frustrating characters but they make you wonder about their invest in the cult. You can root for the good guys, especially Sang Mi and Dong Cheol (the younger, sweet, very likable version of Min Cheol). There are more nuances for bad guys too. So, make your opinion because both stories are very different. I hope it becomes a franchise like the School series or Reply series.

Young Jin's father... why did my heart hurt so much?

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Thanks for your complete insight. :)
I will give it a look: at least the first 4 episodes to see if i can like it.

Between Fukuda and Hiroshi, my heart became a mess.
It won't stop: this week Young Jin's confrontation with her father reached an emotional pic.
Apparently next week is back to be a blood bath.
My hope for a happy ending is dying slowly :(

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I didn't expect to feel so much sadness Fukuda and Hiroshi. A happy ending is inexistent for this kind of story (Nokdu Flower says hello too).

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Hahaha nooo, please, if you only watch the first four episodes of Save Me 1 you will probably drop it, because it is all so dreary; 1-4 is the backstory of how the family got dragged into the cult, and it gets pretty oppressive. The thriller bit doesn't begin until episode 5 or so, but it pays off to endure till then. Waiting to find some time for the second series myself...

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I highly recommend season 1 if you like creepy, psychological mindforks. It has a totally different story from s2 so you're not spoiled for anything. :)

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Thank you for your review!
I'm not exactly afraid to be bored or spoiled:
m fear was mostly due to the cast.
I loved season 2 because of its cast: the main actors but also the veterans/elders.
These days, i enjoy more stories who have middle age to old characters.
So i was a wary of less experimented actors.

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Re. actors: Woo Do-hwan and Go Joon. That's all I have to say :-) . Seriously though, don't worry on that score. This is a good drama.

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There are some drama vets in s1 too and they all elevated the show. My favorite is the creeptastic Jo Sung-ha. He won the DB yearend fir Best Villain and I got to write the blurb hehe maybe cos the Overlords notice me raving about his evility :D

The young ‘uns aren’t too bad either. You probably already heard all the noise about Woo Do-hwan. There’s a reason people watched the ???? Great Seducer for him haha, but Seo Ye-ji was amazing too and carried the cornered and desperate arc very well.

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Investigation Couple 2 The daughter was hit by a car, bitten by teacher and kidnapped? What a busy week!

Angel's Last Mission: Love The amnesia plot was useless...

One Spring Night Men and their pride... Fortunately, there is Jiho and his cute son :D

Search Query: WWW I have the impression that one scene in two is about her love story. It's too much! I want more work and scenes between our badass heroines!

Nokdu Flower I'm behind.

Chief of Staff Not sure if the theme interests me enough to continue it.

Voice 3 It's sad they decided to focus the story on the big bad and the sickness of the hero instead of the cases.

Arthdal Chronicles Dropped for now.

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Search Query: WWW: This! Sismance is better than romance, even if Ta Mi and Morgan had more interesting scenes this week.

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LOL at Investigation couple because that is so true. Busy busy week.

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And she still found the time to find a date for her single mother.

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Listen, we all need her skill at multitasking catastrophe with little bits of happiness 😂

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@kurama,
Yep, ANGEL'S LAST MISSION's amnesia plot was forgettable.

Put on your track shoes to keep up with Yoon Si-yoon's sprint down the road to perdition in NOKDU FLOWER. You'll need them. ;-)

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I think I'm hesitating to wait for the end and watch all in one time.

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@lollypip is our recap saviour!
Thank you dear! And take care!

Secret love affair: Ep8, oh dear why do I don't like the female lead character or for that matter any female character in it and men are just an insult by their mere existence in the show other than YAI, it is really tiring to watch it.

WWW: Yes, some girls don't want to marry! And please stop with those filters, rest I am in love with makjang actor and Scarlett.

One spring night: This week was tough and amazing! Fighting seo-in and Jung in! I can never have enough of eun-o

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Oh, now that's an idea, Secret Love Affair for a rewatch. I am missing YAI and that was definitely an interesting kdrama, although as you mentioned, it does get really tiring from time to time.

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@zzthorn,
If you've got a bad case of Yoo Ah-in withdrawal, take a gander at SUNGKYUNKWAN SCANDAL for his swash-buckling rooftop propaganda campaign, noble second-lead behavior, and hilarious bromance with the university's resident fashion plate. If you're really desperate and laugh at historical accuracy, you'll enjoy his turn as the future King Sukjong in JANG OK JUNG, LIVING FOR LOVE. I watched them both recently, and enjoyed his performances. Will post my comments below. ;-)

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I can also recommend Chicago Typewriter, which was far more amazing than this secret love affair or if you want to be tormented (?) then the movie Burning was amazing, he was just plain brilliant there.

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Chicago Typewriter is one of my all time favorite Kdramas. I even bought a copy so I would have it available always. I will need to search for the film though as I didn't know about that.

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Burning was shortlisted for Oscars and won at Cannes and a lot more other film festivals, YAI was amazing in his role though I did not get the movie when I watched it but thinking about it for the next few days was really rewarding, I may even rewatch it for some more details.

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So far I'm having a little trouble finding Burning anywhere. Where have you seen it recently?

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Kissasian has it, though viki does not have it, I don't know about Netflix, I am not its fan.

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Burning is on Netflix in the US.

It... wasn’t really my type of movie... lol.

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@mindy ah Netflix! No wonder. Thank you!

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I think I like Yoo Ah-in in the more quirky roles such as Fashion King (which I think I am the only person in the world who liked that one the whole way through) and Chicago Typewriter. For the most part, I don't like the earlier historical dramas very well though I did love 6 Flying Dragons. (and a number of others that don't star YAI) This will likely sound strange, but I hate the hairstyles of those early historical kdramas where the hair is all hidden under hats or wigs. I like to see the movement of the hair on the characters as it's part of their identity, and when that is hidden, I'm less willing to connect with the character. It's sort of like what some people feel when interacting with a person wearing sun glasses. Not exactly a great reason to be put off by that period of historical kdrama, but, what can I say?

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@zzthorn,

I can sympathize. The battened-down sangtus [topknots] covered with gats and winged caps is one reason why I prefer sageuks set in the Three Kingdoms era: free-range manes of glory. Unless I am already familiar with at least some of the members of the cast, it's murder trying to distinguish between all the goateed geezers at court in Joseon. Throw in dismal mood lighting and a cast of thousands, and I go bonkers trying to figure out who is who.

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Same for me. Couldn't even watch the original Scarlet Heart - gave it a shot but I find baldness generally unattractive and couldn't tell the difference between all the brothers to boot. Re Korea, give me Goryeo over Joseon any day so I don't have to look at those hats that would make the most rebellious character look prim!

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but don't watch The Veteran -- was that what it was called... he was a horrible HORRIBLE chaebol jerkoff....

i still shudder at the memory...

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Oh, wait maybe I will watch it for him being a badie, I think he pulls of such roles very well.
Have you seen VIP of Lee Jong suk (I felt it was the first time that some director could finally get him to act), he was also a horrible character there?

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well, don't say i didn't warn ya...
*tries again to erase memory*

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Lol. LJS is kind of like John Wayne in that he just plays himself every time.

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@spazmo, okay, I'll stay away from that one!

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especially if you have a dog....

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As for Secret Love Affair, I think it is intentional. The love affair is only the catalyst for the point that the writers want to make, which isn't really about romance at all. It was hard work to watch sometimes, but I liked how it was resolved.

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Yes I think the hardest thing people struggle with about Secret Love Affair is that it's not really about a romance at all.

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Of course, scrolling down I found your post saying it all much better than I ever could ;-)

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Mother of Mine:
I loved mom in front of the chairman. Haha. But did she even know Tae Joo was a chaebol heir? She didn’t look at all surprised. I got some satisfaction of mom telling off CEO Jeon yet again. If she thought of her daughter and son’s happiness she would have left long ago.

I still find Mi Sun’s family unbearable and don’t care for Mi Hye’s story. However, what annoys me the most is as expected of a weekend drama they are trying to whitewash Ceo Jeon by bringing someone worse. The new character is totally annoying but nope, I am not buying it. Whatever the excuse, even if it’s her brother’s bankruptcy nothing excuses her abandoning her daughter and the way she acted when they crossed paths again. The only thing this development showed is why Tae Joo feels sorry for Jeon. Doesn’t she feel guilty towards Tae Joo? Instead she is using him.

As there are more than 20 episodes left yet I might start skipping as I can’t stand the stepmom. That woman wants the company for her son. Will Mi Ri return to the company and join forces with Jeon for Tae Joo’s future? Now that’s a twist I haven’t seen coming.

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Abyss:
Thank God that’s over. The only the thing that worked in the drama was the cute couples and the friendship group and team of five including Hee Jin towards the end. This was an interesting premise let down by weak writing, characters who should know better repeatedly acting stupid, caricature villains, everything conveniently going in the villains’ way etc. etc. There were no rules for the abyss and the world they created for it. That time jump in the end and how they tied everything was just dragging a dead plot.

Park Bo Young usually chooses better projects so let’s just hope this was a fluke. I also hope Ahn Hyo Seop’s choice is better next time as well (I can’t believe he is already in talks for another drama! I am glad this did not affect his popularity. I haven’t seen Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim but know it was a ratings success so it’s not surprising it’s getting a second season but sequels with different characters are not always as successful). Also, the costumes in this drama highlighted how skinny Ahn Hyo Seop is. He looked like a gangly teenager most of the time in this drama.

I would like to see more of the actress playing Mi Do.

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Angel’s Last Mission: Love:
At this point I dislike everything but the main couple in this story. I have been concerned by how fast the plot was moving and how quickly Dan and Yeon Seo fell in love and confessed and became a couple as there didn’t seem to be much story left to tell after that and we finally arrived at the point I feared. Right now it feels like this drama should have been at least two episodes shorter.

One thing I like though is how clearly and firmly Yeon Seo is rejecting Kang Woo. Many an old fashioned drama got annoying because a character didn’t do that (having just finished Delightful Girl Chun Hyang I appreciated this doubly.)

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I love the rejection too! I found myself thinking - this is what kdrama FLs should do!

As much as I have criticized the writing of ALML, I dare say Yeon Seo remains one of my favorite female character. It's like everyone is sprouting nonsense and her lines are always the best.

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I'm biaised for Delightful Girl Chun Hyang: it was my 1st kdrama and favourite romcom for a long time. It had its flaws but one of the biggest appeal of its heroine was her big heart hidden under her seriousness, her rough ways (beating) and shouts.
In 2005 it was important for a heroine to care: Chung Hyun actually rejected clearly the second lead multiple times (he pushed his feelings while he knew she was married and in love with her husband), but she was considerate of his feelings, worried that someone she considered a friend because he was supportive and helped her in hard times could suffer because of her. That's why she tried her best to cheer him and she was right.

Yeon Seo was just ruthless: Kang Woo is the reason why she became a ballerina again. He helped her a lot with her career and never pressured her with Dan. He just warned her about being deceived (he was right). When he was uncomfortable with his own feelings, he didn't show up at the practise to not annoy her.
But she couldn't care less about his feelings. There were many ways to say no: she said that she didn't want his feelings to get in the way of her success. She could have told him to take a break, instead she asked him to ignore what he feels and just be the director that she needed to make Giselle the best ballet of the year.

I don't know why today's ruthless and loud heroines are seen as strong characters when they are just mean.

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@coolgirl,
Thank you for your comments on the female leads in DELIGHTFUL GIRL CHUN HYANG (which I recently watched for the first time specifically because it is an old-school drama with Jae Hee) and ANGEL'S LAST MISSION.

In ALML, I thought I was the only viewer put off by Yeon-seo's self-centered rudeness (to put it mildly). She still comes across as an imperious, entitled harridan at times. I think I understand why she is the way she is (who wouldn't be, coming from a family of amoral sharks fixated on money, power, and prestige??) -- but it has undercut my sympathy for her. And when she suddenly turns into a whimpering crybaby, I get whiplash, although she (mercifully) is not being manipulative, as far as I can tell. Underneath her bluster, she's a traumatized princess. Her Attila the Hun mode grates on me -- and no one seems to be capable of getting her to ditch that attitude. From the beginning, I have detested how Yeon-seo treats the employees at her residence. And I still hate the way she treats Dan when she's on her high horse.

Might Dan's last mission really be to help her recover her long-lost lovable self? Instead, it almost looks like it's his stint in Purgatory. Grrr!

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I completely agree with your comment.
I think the problem with people not recognizing Yeon Seo's selfishness and self centeredness is that she's played by an excellent actress: Shin Hye Sun who is very good at making people empathize with her character even when she's not sympathetic.
Also it's easier to overlook the flaws when shipping the character.

To me, Yeon Seo can't compare to Chun Hyang: both were shaped by their environment but it's the only common point.
For Chun Hyang, life was an endless road of hardship. She was poor, forced to work after school, living alone with an irresponsible and immature mother that
spent all the money she won for the rent in useless things.
Yeon Seo has it all: her two loving parents until she reached 17 years old and Mr Jo after that as substitute family, money, talent, beauty.
When life hit her hard, she had resources to recover unlike Chun Hyang, who got her life all messed up by Mong Ryong and could only hide and try again far from him.

Not all heroines must be role model, but there's a balance to keep when it's the lead heroine who is concerned, because it can spoil the interest for a drama.

I personally dislike Yeon Seo, i pity her sometimes but mostly don't care about her happiness.
It's funny because i think that she's been more a victim of Dan than the other way. He lied and deceived her so many times, but yet the more he ran away, the more she ran after him.
Now, he's being very possessive with her.
For me, it looks like a mutual obsession more than love.

You're right to point that she looks down on the people who work for her. They are used and dismissed as if they are objects. Getting paid a lot more to give up self respect.

I suppose that we are both hooked more on the mystery and that's why we keep watching. I'm curious to see how this will be resolved: predictable happiness or shocking sad twist?

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I don't know why one has to be understanding to a person who is trying to force their unwanted feelings on you. It is a very uncomfortable situation for the recipient. Someone confesses to you once, you say no, they should give up. Repeatedly forcing those feelings on that person is harassment. Chun Hyang's mistake was to continue being "friends" with a guy who clearly had not given up on her and was biding his time for an opportunity. That's why I liked Yeon Seo's clear rejection. Kang Woo was rejected already but he keeps pushing and telling her he is better than Dan (let's remember at that point he is talking about the person she is in love with, isn't that mean on his part?). That situation warrants her to tell him that even if it wasn't for Dan she wouldn't be with him. Her reference to him being the director she needed was a way of saying she would only ever have a professional relationship with him. I don't view that as ruthless. Some situations warrant being very blunt. People in love have a way of interpreting even the smallest thing in their own advantage and delude themselves.

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I agree. When it comes to rejection, there is just no being Mr. or Ms. Nice Guy about it and being considerate of the other party's feelings when clearly they do not consider your feelings. A gentle put down never works, just so you can what, seem like a nice considerate person? Yeon Seo said she hopes he hates her (for being so cold) and usually hate or anger at being rejected is what will jerk the person awake to realize that NO means NO.

I hated One Spring Night when the FL rejected the ML and then said they should just stay friends instead. You know the guy is interested in you, and you think by rejecting him and then staying friends will help? Isn't that being too cruel to him? That's just jerking someone around for your own benefits. I couldn't continue watching the drama after 2 episodes because I was too annoyed at the FL's selfishness, on top of her two timing the bf? That's a heroine to root for? Just no.

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Sorry, if i have been too intense about my feelings for those characters. I realized while writing what bugged me so much about Yeon Seo since i started to watch ALML, and i needed to be loud about it.

I feel the need to clarify my point:
I'm not making generalizations about what one should act when turning down someone else's feelings. Especially for us girls and women. We all know it can become dangerous if the man is unstable, sometimes life threatening. Also, it's not our responsability to take care of their ego.

But Yeon Seo and Chun Hyang's rejections have a context, the one provided by the drama. Before rejecting the second leads, the two girls have been rejected by the first leads few times. Their hearts were broken and yet they couldn't get over their feelings. Basic empathy is why i expected them to be understanding of the second lead's feelings.
Unrequited feelings work also both ways: those male supporting characters didn't chose to fall in love. It happened to them.

And to finish to complicate things, Chun Hyang and Hak Do were friends when he confessed. It's hard to act cold and blunt when you know well the other person. So i really understand the dilemma of Chun Hyang.

For Yeon Seo, i disagree with your perception. Everyone is saying she's rude, even Dan. What happened with Kang Woo is just another example of her horrible personality.

If you check back Kang Woo's lines, you'll see that he never pretended to be better than Dan. When he confessed his feelings on the beach, he didn't try to break a happy couple. She was once more running after Dan and in tears because she was left again only with promises. Kang Woo offered her to
lean on him instead.

I don't contest that she had a right to tell him that she wouldn't fall for him in any case and that she doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
But he wasn't pursuing her at that precise time. He missed the practise to avoid her. She came after him to his office, she brought the subject of his feelings, he didn't.

If he wants to wait and reminds her once a while of his feelings, she can't forbid him to do it. There was no need to tell him to get over his feelings immediately as if it was a switch to turn, as if she had no memory how she pursued and harassed Dan to love her during weeks.

She made already herself clear after the audition that she wanted only a professional relationship and she was polite that time (in a good mood because she won).
But if she expects sincerely to have a good professional relationship with him, she shouldn't have told him this time she hoped he would hate her.
As a ballet director, he was always on her side, defending her right to dance again. Didn't she thank him for believing in her? What kind of collaboration does she expect with a man who would wallow in negative feelings because of her? That's just another way to keep the person obsessed, For me it's cruel and needless.

I'm all...

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@coolgirl

I think this is a case of 'lost in translation'...
What actually happened is 1) LYS reiterated to KW the point that she is not interested in anything romantic 2) he completely ignored her words and said sth to the tune Dan won't be around for long... so I'll wait for you to get over him. Now is the critical bit... what she actually said was 'rather than you waiting (for sth that has no chance of happening) I would rather you hated me (for now so you can move on properly'. I was actually very proud of her level headed and unequivocal refusal of him. There was no option of things changing tomorrow, no excuse for false hope.

The nice leads in kdramas could take a lesson or two from LYS - if so there would be a lot fewer deluded second leads out there.

Of course KW is completely oblivious to reason so he fails to get it regardless. But given his behavior she did 100% the right thing imo.

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I don't get your point : who lost what in translation?

I have made my point clear on the reasons why she should care more about the way she rejected Kang Woo and why what she said was mostly stupid.
I have no interest in debating more with people who want to defend a character like Yeon Seo.

Strong heroines are on other dramas: look for something else than romcom and you'll understand better that makes the difference between real strength and immaturity.

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@charlieblue17
I just realized after rereading this discussion that actually this debate makes no sense: her boyfriend Dan is dead, called back for a short time on Earth as guardian angel to say goodbye to her but he's supposed to join paradise soon.
Though he refuses to let go of her.

That's why Kang Woo wants to wait: to see if one day she can move on and try to be happy with someone like him.

When she rejected Kang Woo she had no idea that her guardian angel would disappear and she would end her life alone.

So really to treat him like a basic second lead who tries to pressure the girl to date him even by destroying her actual happiness is a lie. And the comparison with One Spring Night is completely out of place.

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Sorry @coolgirl I agree with the others.
Yeonsoo has no obligation to be considerate of Kang Woo's feeling. Especially since she's told him repeatedly she doesn't like him and has asked him to be professional. In the "real world" his behaviour would be sexual harassment. This is her workplace and she's asked him to just behave like her Director more than one.

I think she's awesome for just shutting him down when he's repeatedly so far out of line. I mean, "I'll just wait till you get abandoned and move in then".

Unbelievable. He's a total douche.

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That's your opinion to think that she has no obligation to be a decent human being, i will continue to tell that she's a ruthless girl and a shameless heroine.

You won't make me change my mind or make her magically better just because you keep repeating it.

And I'm not even a fan of his character So you can say what you want about him.

You should be more careful about bringing real life issues as sexual harassment, especially without understanding the concept. It can make the discussion triggering for others readers
But it's up to you.

Hopefully he will soon get over her with the help of another girl.
It should be quite easy actually since it would be hard for him to meet worse.

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I was just thinking yesterday that in any professional workplace Kang Woo's behavior would be sexual harassment and forgot to write about it. Thank you for bringing up. This is serous. No means no. As her director he has no right to keep bringing it up after she refused him.

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I think Delightful Girl might represent the peak of noble idiocy in kdramas LOL - but then again it was 2005

I think I didn't mind the CEO hanging around Chun Hyang when Mong Ryong was being such an idiot - if he was confused about his feelings and choosing his sidechick over her, why couldn't she have another man?

BUT AFTER THEY GOT TOGETHER AND SHE DECIDED TO PULL THAT NOBLE IDIOCY STUNT. Let's not talk about it :)

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Arthdal Chronicles:
I am loving season 2 though Eunsom was mostly non-existent so far but if this is the story of the three heavenly objects I guess it’s fair that the beginning of Season 2 focuses on Saya who was totally absent in Season 1. I find Saya a fascinating character and am looking forward to learning more about him. Eunsom and Saya show a classic case of nature vs. nurture debate as twins raised separately in very different environments. Raised by the power hungry Taelha and Tagon where intrigue runs amok, everyone backstabs everyone else and alliances shift daily it's no wonder Saya turned out so different than Eunsom who was mostly surrounded by kindness while growing up. I can't wait for them to meet.

Saya also creates a very nice contrast to Tagon regarding their reactions to being an Igutu.

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b>WWW:
This is now absolutely my favorite drama of the week. I am loving the girls supporting each other at work and outside. I am enjoying the growth and change Ta Mi is experiencing. I am also looking forward to another noona romance between the no name daily makjang actor and Scarlett. I am finally feeling some interest in Ga Kyung and nher husband’s fate but still find her relationship with Scarlett strange.

The Secret Life of My Secretary:
This was fluffy and cute. It wasn’t extraordinary and special but in no way offensive. The ridiculousness of the secretary plot undermined the cuteness a bit but I was there for the cute.

My Absolute Boyfriend: I am still one week behind on this as I’m terribly busy with my upcoming travels and this is still the last thing I watch every week.

Unstoppable High Kick: Continuing uneventfully. I wonder whether there will be any reveal regarding Yumi and her dad’s mysterious spy actions by the end of the drama. They showed in a couple of episodes that the story was told by the baby Jun after he grew up. His dad was remarried but we didn’t see who the wife was. But Yumi was no longer with Minho.

Delightful Girl Chun Hyang: Finally finished it. Found it odd that it’s ajusshi who remained obsessed after the second time jump rather than the insufferable second female lead. This was my first watch and unless you have the pleasant memories of a first watch when it aired I don’t think this drama stands the test of time (or that may be my dislike of certain conventions Hong sisters can’t seem to let go talking).

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I slowed down with the currently-airing shows this week to start and re-watch some older ones.

Bom Bam: What more is there to say really? Except I did decide this week that I probably anticipate Seo-in's sporadic scenes the most right now. I need her to win.

Absolute Boyfriend: Wang-joon needs to watch Bom Bam and realise that little separates him in his behaviour from the misogynistic bastards in that show. If she's broken up with you, don't ignore her. Come on.

Because This is My First Life: I don't know what compelled me to watch this again, really. My opinion hasn't changed - although there's this sweet-spot in episodes nine and ten, I don't see the masterpiece everyone else does. It's just a nice show to me.

Beautiful Mind: I'm planning a Jang Hyuk marathon, and this is where I'm starting. I find this thoroughly enjoyable. Although the elements are not perfect, I'm constantly engaged. I really can't understand why this drama went through so much Production Hell, it seems unfair!

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Yes, that was a terrible mistake. I literally winced when he did that. It's so stupid because up to that point, I was thinking he is trying his best to accept that Da Da left him and that she is in love with a robot. Then he got worried because Da Da almost got killed by one. All these are reasonable but I don't see why revealing his relationship with her and her identity got to do with any of it. Worse, she's no longer his girlfriend. I am getting whiplash from this writer's writing. Sometimes, it's good and sometimes so awful.

Speaking of dragging, it drives me nuts that guys in kdramas are still doing this thing.

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Jang Hyuk marathon sounds great! We’ll see him soon again in MY COUNTRY 😄

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I'm planning on at least watching Success Story of A Bright Girl, Con Man, Shine or Go Crazy and Bad Papa! 😍
As it turns out, I've barely seen any of his shows.

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I did the same... turns out I’ve only seen him in CHUNO, FATED TO LOVE YOU, SHINE OR GO CRAZY and snippets of WOK OF LOVE.

I have MONEY FLOWER and TREE WITH DEEP ROOTS on my to-watch list. 😎

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I vote Bad Papa and Tree With Deep Roots! :D

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I loved him so much in Fated to Love You, but I couldn't finish Greasy Melo.

And @mary, you're the reason I want to try Bad Papa, I know how much you enjoyed it! Besides, it looks so unique.

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Money flower was awesome, makjang done to perfection! I vote for it!

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DAEMANG / GREAT AMBITION (2002-03) is another good JH drama. IIRC, it includes Jo Hyun-jae's first sageuk role. Zo In-sung and Jang Keun-suk are in it, too, playing young characters. Lee Yo-won, Son Ye-jin, and Kim Mi-kyung also star.

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Oh wow, that's a gorgeous cast!

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Shine or Go Crazy never seems to get much love but it was the first Drama I saw JH in and I fell completely in love with him. Liked him better in it than anything else and I've seen all his others. But it might not stand the time test: it was one of my first kdramas. I did like the female lead a lot, she was a kickass businesswoman.

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I'm not hugely familiar with Goryeo, when I dip into sageuks it's usually Joseon-based ones, but the premise of Shine or Go Crazy looks really interesting to me. I actually don't hear people talking about this one much?

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