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Hotel del Luna: Episode 10

It’s been made clear that our timid hotelier was brought into his employer’s life to help her move on from the pain of her past, but in this episode, she gets a chance to help him heal as well. They’re growing closer as they face their sorrows together, and a long-awaited confession will cement their determination to see this through to the end.

 
EPISODE 10 RECAP

Chan-sung throws the medicine that would take away his ability to see ghosts into the spring and tells Man-wol that she has to keep protecting him — then his big dramatic moment is ruined when the water spirit magnanimously returns the medicine, LOL. Chan-sung snaps at the spirit in annoyance, but Man-wol takes the medicine and thanks the water spirit for his help.

She tells Chan-sung not to forget that he nearly died because of her, but Chan-sung says that if he takes the medicine, he won’t be able to see her anymore, and that she’ll only become more spiteful without him to take care of her. Thinking of his vision of Man-wol dissipating as an evil spirit, Chan-sung says he’s willing to get in trouble to keep that from happening.

They’re interrupted by the daughter of the hotel CEO, who asks why he’s at her father’s villa. He explains that CEO Wang agreed to let him use the pond, though he’s vague about the details. The CEO’s granddaughter JI-EUN (cameo by Sulli) is there too, and she shows her mother a photo she found of herself and her grandfather when she was a child.

Chan-sung tells them that they can write a letter to CEO Wang, and that his hotel provides a service to get the letter to him. He leaves with the letter and finds Man-wol waiting for him, complaining that she doesn’t like to drive. Chan-sung asks why she buys so many cars, and she says it’s because they’re pretty, and she’s planning to buy back all the ones he sold.

He asks her what money she’ll use, and she demands the Mount Baekdu painting back. Just to annoy her, Chan-sung changes the subject to a famous restaurant nearby, mimicking her voice as he says that the painting will never be hers if the restaurant closes before they get there.

Man-wol sulks as Chan-sung eats, glaring at him even as she takes pictures of the restaurant. He says she should move the hotel back to its old location because it’s too far from his house, but Man-wol just tells him to go back to his old job, since the director seemed to like him so much. He says he’s only interested in being liked by his current boss.

He loads up a lettuce leaf with a mountain of meat and wagers that if he can eat it in one bite, Man-wol will rehire him. She sneers that Chan-sung is no match for Kim Joon-hyun, but when he has the wrap half in his mouth, she tells him not to bother — she doesn’t watch Kim Joon-hyun’s shows anymore.

When they get back to the hotel, Chan-sung says he’s going to hang around to make it difficult for Man-wol to give up on him. Seo-hee breaks up the impending fight with the unwelcome news that all of the ghosts Hyun-joong and Yoo-na brought to the hotel were murdered and buried in the woods. The bodies have been found and the police are assuming it’s a serial killer, and the ghosts all describe their murderer as a young man.

Yoo-na wrote down his license plate number, but Man-wol dissolves the note, saying that it’s the police’s job to catch the killer since he’s alive. She instructs her employees to take care of the victims, even providing a TV and wi-fi so they can follow the news and get closure when their killer is caught.

Since Hyun-joong called the police, they’re very confused that the CCTV camera near the phone booth he used didn’t record anyone making the call. Mago’s sweet, older incarnation approaches Young-soo, Yeon-woo’s present-day reincarnation and detective in charge of the case, and asks to borrow a quarter for the phone booth.

She gives him a pen with a little crocheted heart in exchange, admonishing him not to lose it or he’ll never get married in this life (then trots off to take a call on her cell, hee). Young-soo almost throws the heart pen away, but he decides to keep it just in case.

The CEO is happy to get the letter from his granddaughter, who was abroad when he passed away. She’d included a picture, and CEO Wang sizes up Chan-sung with an eye to setting him up with Ji-eun. Chan-sung gets nervous and makes an excuse to leave, but Bartender Kim is more than happy to tell CEO Wang all about him.

He reports this to Man-wol later, having been instructed to get on CEO Wang’s good side. She thinks it’s awesome that he offered to help set up CEO Wang’s granddaughter, but her expression goes stormy when she learns that the prospective guy is Chan-sung.

She finds Chan-sung in her office, and when she hears Bartender Kim looking for him, she slams the door shut. Bartender Kim bursts in, causing Man-wol to shove Chan-sung to hide behind the door. When Bartender Kim leaves, Man-wol and Chan-sung stay where they are, pressed closely together.

Chan-sung speaks first, asking why they’re not moving, and for some reason Man-wol starts blabbering about how he likes dull, brown things. Chan-sung assumes this is her punishing him for not giving her the Mount Baekdu painting, and they get in a fight over his “greed.”

Man-wol yells at him to get out and storms to her bedroom, but Chan-sung follows her to call through the door that he’ll give her the painting. He also tells her to keep the medicine: “Let’s leave a way for me to run away and for you to abandon me, just to be safe.” He says he’ll wait for her call him to reinstate him, and before he leaves, he says he’d like to eat with her at that restaurant again sometime.

In the city, a husband worries that he hasn’t seen his wife in days. He goes to his car and notices something strange, and when he opens the trunk, he finds his wife’s body wrapped in plastic. Young-soo and his team arrive moments later, having gotten an anonymous tip, and they arrest the husband for murder.

A short distance away, the real killer, Ji-won, watches the police as they find a dirt-covered shovel with the body — ah, he’s setting the husband up as the serial killer. In the back seat of his car, the wife’s ghost screams, and Ji-won cuts his finger.

After the reunion, Mi-ra asks Sanchez why he hates Ji-won so much. Sanchez says that when they were studying in the States, a Korean student committed suicide in Boston. There was a rumor that she did it because Sanchez made her do nasty things with his friends, and Sanchez eventually learned that Ji-won was behind the rumors.

In flashback we see that Sanchez had confronted Ji-won, saying that all he did was offer her a job as a waitress at a party because she needed money. Ji-won had insinuated that the student did “other things” at the party, and he’d sneered that nobody would believe Sanchez because they’re all sick of his rich guy act.

Later he’d sent Sanchez a gun and a postcard telling him to kill himself, but Chan-sung had stopped Sanchez from harming himself. Chan-sung had taken the gun and gone to see Ji-won, and all Sanchez knows is that Ji-won returned to Korea soon after that. Chan-sung returns home in a foul mood, and Sanchez asks Mi-ra not to mention seeing Ji-won today.

Back at the hotel, CEO Wang approaches Man-wol about Chan-sung as a potential grandson-in-law. He wants to use the hotel’s dream service to visit his granddaughter while she’s sleeping and tell her about Chan-sung, and he even offers to pay in real money.

That night, Ji-eun dreams that she’s walking through a forest. Her grandfather greets her and tells her that he likes the man who brought him her letter, and that he hopes that man becomes her husband. He starts to tell her more about Chan-sung, but Man-wol hangs up the ghostly phone he’s using to talk to Ji-eun and makes up a rule on the spot that he only gets one call per day, hee.

It was enough to get Ji-eun to contact Chan-sung, but she grows nervous when she tries to tell him what her grandfather said. Chan-sung’s gentlemanly response to her nerves captures her interest, so Ji-eun invites him to dinner. He takes her to Sanchez’s pizza place, and it turns out that Ji-eun and Sanchez belong to the same yacht club.

Yoo-na and Hyun-joong are also at the pizza place, and Yoo-na sees a photo of the suspected serial killer, but she can tell it’s not the same guy they saw driving the car. They see Chan-sung enter with Ji-eun, and Hyun-joong tells Yoo-na that Chan-sung doesn’t work for Hotel del Luna anymore.

Later, Bartender Kim and Hyun-joong excitedly tell Man-wol that it worked, and Ji-eun and Chan-sung have met. She imagines Chan-sung having the time of his life on their “date,” and she grows genuinely alarmed to learn that they’re seeing each other again tomorrow. The guys wonder when Chan-sung will introduce Ji-eun to his parents, then realize that his father died and they don’t even know if his mother is still alive.

Two girls visit a library at night, looking for a haunted book that summons its ghostly owner when taken from the shelf. One girl films while the other tries to pick up the book, but it won’t budge. The girl that’s filming sees a female ghost on her phone screen, holding the book in place, and she passes out in fear.

Meanwhile, two of Mago’s sisters discuss the fact that Chan-sung still hasn’t taken the medicine and can still see ghosts. The grumpy sister says that she heard the older sister arranged for two incompatible souls to cross paths, and the older sister chirps that it’s fun to make past-life enemies meet again.

Mi-ra catches a cab, getting in just after Young-soo gets out, and she sits on the crocheted heart pen that fell out of his pocket. She hands it to him through the window, and for just a moment, she seems to recognize him. She stops the taxi and gets out to blame his pen for marking up her skirt, and she demands his phone number, ostensibly so she can have him pay for the dry cleaning.

He notes that the mark on her skirt is a different color from his pen’s ink, and Mi-ra slinks away, embarrassed. But Young-soo calls her back and offers to pay anyway since she returned his pen, and he looks adorably nervous as he asks for her number. Across the street, Mago’s older sister watches them and nods with satisfaction.

Ji-eun and Chan-sung visit the library together, which CEO Wang established, and they agree that CEO Wang brought them together for a reason. Man-wol and CEO Wang are watching them, and when CEO Wang says he’s happy, Man-wol leaves. Chan-sung spots CEO Wang and guesses that Man-wol must be nearby, and he finds her outside sitting alone.

She says she’s only here because CEO Wang paid to see his granddaughter, and she declines Chan-sung’s suggestion to tour the library. He insists and takes her to see the Mount Baekdu painting, which he decided to sell to the library. Man-wol smiles to herself to know that this is why Chan-sung is with Ji-eun, and not because he’s interested in her.

He and Man-wol leave together, and when the library director asks Ji-eun if she’s dating him, she says she wanted to, but that he told her there’s someone else.

Chan-sung takes Man-wol to the library cafeteria, saying that his father used to bring him here to eat even though the area was too expensive to live in. Man-wol asks if he always lived with his father, and he says he did, because his father was the only one who wanted him to be born.

Man-wol tells Chan-sung that his father didn’t sell Chan-sung to her to save himself, but so that Chan-sung wouldn’t be alone when his father died. He says he knows because his father was his only family, but he looks touched.

He wants to go look at the books, but Man-wol says that she’s not dressed for reading and wants to run home to change, ha. But Chan-sung says he doesn’t want to read – he’s looking for a ghost attached to a book. He tells her that the ghost was an elementary school principal who she died not long ago, and her family donated her books.

He believes the haunted book is precious to the ghost, but Man-wol thinks she’s probably hiding something. When they find the book, titled “Existence and Time,” Chan-sung says he’s read it but it was difficult to understand, and Man-wol admits that even she doesn’t understand existence or time after living for a thousand years.

She retreats a short distance, thinking that the ghost won’t appear if she’s there. As soon as Chan-sung tries to pick up the book, the ghost appears, and she’s surprised he can see her. She says she doesn’t want anyone reading the book, and when Chan-sung asks if she’s hiding something, she asks him to get rid of something that’s inside the book.

He says he can, so she allows him to pick up the book. Inside he finds some photos of a child – and one of them is the same photo of himself that Chan-sung has framed on his dresser. The ghost doesn’t notice his shock and says that this is the past she’s been hiding, and that her family must never find out.

Man-wol returns and slams the book back onto the shelf. He tells Man-wol that he hasn’t seen his mother since he was young and didn’t know his father sent her photos of him. He seems upset that the pictures were something she wanted to hide: “I guess she really didn’t want me to be born.”

Man-wol reaches out to pat his arm, but she stops herself. Instead she says harshly that he volunteered himself to go through trouble and this is what happened, asking snappishly if he wants to take his mother to the hotel. He says he doesn’t, but he also doesn’t want to put the pictures back and leave his mother’s ghost here.

Angry, Man-wol says that since he’s going through this because of her, she should do something for him. Chan-sung says he’s just disappointed that he can’t feel happy for getting to meet his mother, and asks Man-wol to just let him grieve. She grabs his sleeve as if she’s going to say something, but she lets go and says to forget it.

Chan-sung heads to Sanchez’s restaurant, but he just tells his friend he’s feeling a little sad. Sanchez notices that he’s lost a button on his sleeve and he guesses that Man-wol accidentally pulled it off. Mi-ra enters as Sanchez and Chan-sung are leaving to get a drink, but she says she’s meeting someone and can’t go with them.

Young-soo walks in, and Chan-sung immediately recognizes him as Yeon-woo from his dreams. Knowing what he knows, it’s a shock to see him with Mi-ra, and he wonders what’s happening. When Young-soo grows uncomfortable under Chan-sung’s stare, Mi-ra explains how they met, but Chan-sung says, “He died because of you…”

Man-wol returns to the hotel and orders the staff to tell her in Chan-sung ever told them anything about his personal life. None of them know anything, not even Reaper, who hilariously pretends he doesn’t care. Seo-hee suggests that Man-wol just ask Chan-sung about himself.

Chan-sung shows up looking very serious, and he tells Man-wol that he came back because he’s found someone from her painful past memories. He takes her to the police station, where Young-soo is outside talking with a coworker. Man-wol watches him with red-rimmed eyes, and she says proudly that he used to be a thief but now he’s a cop.

He can’t hear her, but she says to Young-soo, “You’re living a good life again. I’m so relieved.” Chan-sung asks if she wants to talk to Young-soo, but she says she doesn’t because she’s nobody. Chan-sung feels bad for bringing up her past, but Man-wol thanks him sincerely.

Young-soo looks up and sees Man-wol, and he almost seems to recognize her. They share a long moment, then Man-wol smiles tearfully, seeing him as her old friend Yeon-woo again, standing with her under their tree. Then she turns and walks away.

Young-soo’s partner gets his attention again by mentioning the serial killer case, wondering why the suspect keeps denying the murders when a shovel with dirt matching the burial spot was found in his car. Young-soo says that the guy doesn’t have a motive for the murders other than his wife’s, feeling that something isn’t adding up.

Elsewhere, Ji-won burns all evidence of his murders then removes the memory chip from the black box in his car. He watches the video later, which includes Yoo-na and Hyun-joong following him in the moving van. He calls the moving company and says there was a problem, and learns that Chan-sung is on file as having hired the van.

Chan-sung still has the photos of himself from his mother’s book, and he decides he’s in no condition to go to the hotel today. Man-wol visits the library after hours, and she wonders to herself if she reads the book, will she find a way to comfort someone whose existence and time were spent having been rejected.

The ghost appears, and Man-wol asks her if she’s worried her secret will be exposed. She tells the ghost that her son doesn’t want that, but that she wants to comfort him. She says she needs his mother for that, and offers to take her to Hotel del Luna.

She texts Chan-sung that he’s reinstated, and that he needs to come to the hotel to send off a guest. The hotel is back in its original location, and Hyun-joong is happy to see Chan-sung, but Bartender Kim is disappointed that he won’t be marrying into a rich family and instead ended up back at the ghost hotel.

Chan-sung keeps his composure when he arrives at the tunnel and sees that it’s his mother’s ghost he’s seeing off. She thanks him for coming, and he asks if he can keep the photos from her book. She says he can and that she’s sorry, then she gets into the limo and leaves. As it drives away, Chan-sung says softly, “Goodbye, Mother.”

He looks for Man-wol at the Moon Tree and thanks her for bringing his mother here, and for asking him to return. Man-wol says that she knows he came back for her, and that she’s decided not to give him the medicine. She admits that she’s actually been hoping he would return, and Chan-sung says he’s glad he wasn’t just being clingy on his own.

Man-wol warns Chan-sung that she plans to use him, because he’s brought Mi-ra and Yeon-woo back to her so she’s certain he’ll bring “him” back, too. Her voice goes hard as she says she won’t let him pass by unscathed, and that Chan-sung may end up used, abused and wrecked by her.

Chan-sung thinks she’s trying to drive him away again, but she actually asks him not to go, since he’s already said he’s willing to expose himself to danger. Even though that danger may lead to death, she asks him to stay by her side even if she goes crazy and disappears.

He steps closer and cups her face, and says, “No, I won’t let you disappear. Trust me.” He takes Man-wol in his arms, and she lets her tears fall as he holds her.

Above them, tiny blue buds open on the branches of the Moon Tree.

 
COMMENTS

I know I’m supposed to be swooning over that hug, but for me the big emotional moment of the whole episode was the one where Man-wol and Young-soo got to see each other again, even if only for a moment. Part of Man-wol’s thousand-year suffering is her guilt over her part in Yeon-woo’s death and that she never got to say goodbye, but now, she’s finally gotten closure. She’s seen that his soul is okay and that he’s happy, and that’s all she really needed to know. I actually appreciate that there was no dialogue, because that moment when Young-soo looked at Man-wol and seemed to recognize her, and her sad smile, said more than words ever could.

I kind of love the idea of Young-soo and Mi-ra ending up together in this reincarnation — it feels like a cosmic balance would be restored. What Princess Song-hwa did to Yeon-woo was horrific and unforgivable, killing him just to get the man she wanted, but I feel like she’s paid for that. She didn’t get to live happily with the man she loved, and it was mentioned that she’s been reincarnated thousands of times and this is her first time as a human again, so she’s been paying her dues to the Universe. Young-soo also seems also be making cosmic restitution by being a detective this time around, so there’s something that just feels right about the thought of them falling in love and giving their souls a chance to heal from what happened in the past.

I like the way the “ghost of the week” always highlights whatever is happening with the Hotel del Luna employees, and how helping the ghosts help them solve their problems. But I felt like Chan-sung’s mother’s story was really rushed, especially since neither Chan-sung nor anyone else has ever mentioned her or wondered about her at all. But I appreciate that for once there wasn’t some secretly good reason for her hiding Chan-sung’s existence… she was just not a good mother. At least she said she was sorry and Chan-sung got some closure, which felt realistic — sometimes life just stinks, and all you can do is try to work through it.

I’m proud of Chan-sung for finally relenting and backing down, when he stopped insisting on sticking to Man-wol until she rehired him. I think that he realized that the more stubborn he was, the more it was pushing Man-wol away, so backing off and putting all the decision-making power in her hands, including the decision over whether he would take the medicine to make him stop seeing ghosts, was the best course of action. It allowed Man-wol the space to admit that she wanted to comfort Chan-sung and ask him to stay with her.

I still don’t get much of a romantic vibe from them, but at this point I almost don’t even want that. Man-wol is slated to leave this world soon, and although I said in the previous recap that I thought Chan-sung is Chung-myung, I’ve thought about it further and he actually feels more like a new soul to me. I would be really satisfied with an ending where Chan-sung helped Man-wol settle all of her spiritual debts and move on peacefully, while at the same time she leaves him as someone who’s not afraid to open up and love. I love a good happy ending where the main couple ends up together, but I feel as though a truer ending to Man-wol and Chan-sung’s story would be for them to let each other go in this life, having changed each other for the better.

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"I love a good happy ending where the main couple ends up together, but I feel as though a truer ending to Man-wol and Chan-sung’s story would be for them to let each other go in this life, having changed each other for the better."

MY AHJUSSI VIBES, ANYONE? Excuse me while I cry in the corner.

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I KNOW, RIGHT??

~sob~

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Dear @lollypip , thanks for the recap. Few people here thinks that the flowers blooming in the Moon Tree are not Man-Wol falling in love but her opening up to the people around her.

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This is exactly how I'm seeing the drama too. Chan-sung is very aware that his role is to send Man-wol off peacefully to the afterlife and he's willing to do whatever it takes to make sure she doesn't get annihilated. That's his biggest fear. He want her to go to the afterlife in a fancy car. Is that romantic love? I don't really think so. If anything, he's in love with the original Man-wol, which is why he's willing to put himself on the line to make sure she doesn't go postal on everybody.

I get the feeling that having everybody reincarnated around her is Man-wol's final test: is she ready to let go of the hatred of the past and let these people live peacefully. That's also, in my view, why Young-soo and Mi-ra are brought together by these gods. There surely cannot be a bigger test than seeing the reincarnations of these two date? It's the man who loved her but who she let down and the woman who caused them to die.

I actually love that Chan-sung is aware of the part he's meant to play - unlike some other dramas where the human is kept in the dark and thinks it's all puppies and unicorns (*cough* Goblin *cough*)

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Sorry, I meant to say the original Man-wol who he sees in his dreams. I don't think he's a reincarnation of the captain

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I agree with everything bar one: CS knows that his job is to safely send her to the afterlife, but I don't think the story ends there for him. He expects to meet her again (and again, and again). That's why he cares that when that happens it's not in the shape of hangover soup.

And I know that I am in a very small minority on this, but I find that ridiculously romantic. he is not planning just her immediate departure, but lifetimes of them together.

PS: yes, you are all right: a bit more of a carpe diem attitude would not hurt their relationship nor selling the story as a romance. I see it as a purposeful directorial choice, one that I don't agree with, but that I seem to mind less than most.

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Personally I think that their embrace at the end of the episode was so intimate and full of recognition and love that even the kiss was not needed.

Lets see how it ends.

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Whoa.

This drama just got a lot more depressing.

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There's this saying that married couples must've been enemies in their past lives. I think that's what the pink Ma Go is trying to do here with Yeon Woo and Mi Ra.

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Love all the inversions in this episode.

On the other hand it is beautiful to see Man-Wol clinging to Chang-Sung in the library. She can replace her underlings but not a person that truly cares for her.

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Sorry, love all the characters having teir roles reversed: Man-Wol chastizing "greedy" Chang-Sung, former enemies turned to lovers, Man-Wol worrying for Chang-Sung....

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Personally I thought it wasn't funny that the pink Ma Go made Yeonwoo meet Mi-ra like that. Cause as the Ma Go that does medicine said, they were incompatible souls...I wonder if the pink heart pen will really lead Yeonwoo to his match though. I desperately want Man-wol to be that match, but we all know she's going to end up with Chan Sung. But that look Yeonwoo and Man-wol shared was so bittersweet and it only makes me want them to end up together because of their shared past. Cause Yeonwoo definitely had feelings for her in his past life, and probably in this life as well after seeing her in person (haha Mi-ra will definitely be thinking she had bad karma in her past life since Man-wol might steal Yeonwoo from her as well lol. She'll have lost two guys, no maybe three?, if Yeonwoo tries to pursue Man-wol). Although they probably will not end up together I hope we see scenes of them together in future episodes.

I honestly don't know what to think about the Captain. At first he seemed so great, but than episode 8 came and oof now he's the bastard who sold Man-wol out and got Yeonwoo killed. I really really want to think Captain did this all for a reason. Like maybe the princess saw them together and the only way to save Man-wol was to spin a tale about how he was just getting closer to Man-wol so that he can capture the band of thieves, but the leftover spite Man-wol has for him makes me question his intentions and think maybe...just maybe he was evil all along? Even though he seemed to genuinely like Man-wol and Yeonwoo. Though it does look like the captain may have reincarnated into a firefly since it had the shadow of a man, but i don't know.

I also came to realize something about Chan-sung's dad. Maybe the reason his dad tried to make Chan sung attend an elementary school around that library was because his mother was the principle of that school....which is pretty damn sad but awesome for the dad to try to do. I'm glad Chan-sung got closure though. But it was a only a small scene between him and his mother...I kinda expected more. Like at least a hug or something.

Overall damn I really love this drama and its many osts! I cannot wait for the ost by Punch to come out, it has caught my attention since episode 8!!!! I kinda regret watching an ongoing show, but it's also fun to have theories and wait in anticipation for the episodes to air! :)

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Dear @mintyx03 , the subtitles in the site I watched this episode made me think Yeon-Woo and Mi-Ra could be heading to a rocky relationship:

Mi-Ra got off the cab and asked Yeon-Woo to take care of her dry cleaning by showing him a pink pen mark. Yeon-Woo (Detective Park) showed her that the pen's ink was black. She observed that the ink was so dark even if the exterior was so pink and then apologized and started to go. Det. Park stopped her and asked for her details since she found something precious to him and he should pay for her dry cleaning to show his thanks.

Hope they confront external hurdles and not a basic incompatibility. Hope Yeon-Woo find happiness, Mi-Ra I can send to Hotel de la Luna.

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Hmm I dont know...throughout this episode I kinda got a romantic vibe between them. But hopefully their relationship wont go anywhere and it'll show us exactly why Yeonwoo and Mi-ra are incompatible souls. I get that Mi-ra, who has gone through countless reincarnations, has finally gotten a human incarnation meaning she has repented partially/fully for her sins...but it just doesnt sit right with me to see those two together.

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The past is past and they are not the same people anymore ;) . That means they are free from the memories and emotions of past incarnations but not of their tendencies =) .

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I totally get that I guess I'm just not used to them being together on screen bc of how tragic their interconnected pasts were. I mean if they end up together then it's fine. It is not like Mi-ra is the same person as she was in the past and she certainly isnt here to hurt anybody.

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I'm also not so excited with Young-Soo&Mi-Ra pairing. They are not a good match in my opinion. In their past life, there were no interactions between then whatsoever. He was just one of the low-life rebels/thieves who can be disposed at any time for any reson, just like the other two who were hanged along his side. I think time time the sweet Mago was having too much fun intervening people's life.

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On the other hand @lollypip a small but nonetheless interesting detail is when Chang-Sung brought Man-Wol to the restaurant frequented by her favourite star she told him that she quit liking him. He asked then if it was easy and she replied that no, it wasn't since he was everywhere (camera shots through the car's window and two poster of "the man who died after eating" appear on a bus stop).

So basically Man-Wol tried to get rid of Chang-Sung but it was really hard since she couldn't stop thinking of him =) .

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Chan-Sung has been continuously hinting that he really cares for Man-Wol and that's kind of romantic at least for me. Some people are not the type who express their feelings in a swoon-worthy fashion. The way he assures her that he won't let she do whatever that would make her become an evil-spirit while caressing her face, if that's not love, I don't know what that is. I notice that while he is polite with every ghosts he's helped it's only with Man-Wol when he becomes so gentle.

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I really love how Chan Sung expresses himself somehow. It's obvious he loves her, but he doesn't use the usual swoon methods I see over and over in Kdramas. He's not FORCING romance into their relationship.

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The beauty of Chang-Sung's relationship is that he made the conscious decision to put her well-being and best interests before his. Even if he has to fight her and defy her.

That is why she has learned to trust and respect him.

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I know right! Its refreshing actually.

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I like it very much the way Chang-Sung does it since he makes himself available.

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Yes he cares for her eternal soul, (if souls are eternal) how many guys in drama land or real life do that? I think that itself is very touching and romantic.

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Dear @hasini94 , I think a lot of people do care in such a way, but just as Man-Wol tried again and again to get rid of Chang-Sung we can easily picture him getting trapped in the hedgehog dilemma with her, getting disheartened and abandoning Man-Wol for good.

And then we would have a Man-Wol missing him like crazy.

More generally speaking, there is the trap of trying to do your very best but not knowing really what to do or to have a partner that thinks you should really get his or her true meaning (even if their words don't match), a mind reading of sorts.

There is the trap of believing you have the Absolute Truth. I still remember a friend of mine who really liked a religious fanatic, she tried to save his soul and she had his best interest in that regard... but for her saving his soul=bringing him to her worshipping community :smirk: . She didn't listen to him nor could find a middle ground.

How much time would anyone spend hanging on any of these situations?, everybody has its days on this Earth numbered and we don't know how much of those we have left.

So my take is that a lot of people really care, but they fail at basic understanding.

Cheers!!!

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I'm lowkey bitter that a mother who abandoned her child is going to heaven, with a limousine. I hope there's more to this story that will be revealed soon.

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This episode confirms that Chan-sung is not a reincarnation of anyone so I can't wait to see how Captain shakes our characters if he ever comes back to Man-wol's life, just like Young-soo and Mi-ra did. But I don't want to get my hopes up, since the writers might be baiting us.

The reunion between Man-wol and Yeon-woo was heartbreaking. I think both of them know deep inside that they had an unbreakable bond throughout these years. I hope they can become friends again in this timeline.

I perhaps screamed so loud when I saw Mago trying to pair up Mi-ra and Young-soo. Mi-ra is actually a very nice person in this timeline with just a bad karma from her past life and I can just ship her with Young-soo freely, as long as she doesn't run off with his money. HAHA

Also, Sanchez deserves all the love this universe can give. He is an unproblematic chaebol who is very kind to Chan-sung, Man-wol, and Mi-ra, and he isn't the dumb guy that people were painting him in the beginning.

I hope that this show will find a perfect landing toward the end. Man-wol and Chan-sung doesn't need their relationship to be defined by anything. It is a strong one and I hope if it ends, it ends well, where both of them can find happiness in forgiveness, especially Man-wol.

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This episode makes me realized that it's not the 'face' of a person that confirms whether or not they have been reincarnate, but the way Man-Wol reacts to that perticular person. She once assured Chan-Sung that he cannot ever be Chun-Myung since she doesn't feel anything towards him. She also stated clearly this time that she expects Chan-Sung will also bring Chun-Myung back into her life just like Mi-Ra and Yeon-Woo, err I mean Young-Soo.

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I agree that it was indeed Man-wol's confirmation that solidified this. She could've hated Chan-sung when she saw him for the first time but she never felt any hatred towards him. I hope we get Chun Myung's appearance sooner so the ending won't be rushed.

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Sanchez might not be a main character but I really appreciated his friendship with Chan-sung! I'm also super happy that they became closer or who knows what couldve become of Sanchez because of the bet that serial killer made...I still cannot believe he had the audacity to gift Sanchez that box with the tallies and a gun :( Good thing Chan sung was able to there for him as a supportive friend.

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Sanchez is a pure soul. So glad that we now know how deep his friendship with Chan-sung because I've been curious about it.

David Lee is doing a great job at being the serial killer. He is really creepy HAHA

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Oh definitely! The dude is nailing his role as a serial killer. I felt chills when I realized that he collected mementos from his kills...that's truly disturbing & also when he found out that Chan-sung was involved w/ the moving van that followed him. Since he most definitely has a grudge against Chan-sung and might target him (tbh not too worried thou since our boy has powerful friends who will protect him haha). Also super curious to know what Chan-sung said to Ji won (serial killer) to make him leave the states when he confronted him on behalf of Sanchez.

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Chan-sung probably told him something that intimidated the killer/damaged his pride. He's really great at come backs so I think the killer had none and decided to just leave Chan-sung and Sanchez alone.

When will David Lee be David Lead? He needs to have a lead role already since we all know how fantastic he is on screen.

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That serial killer is a psychopath. I guess it was fun manupilating people to commit suicide maybe he did the same with that student who comitted suicide.

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It was fun for him I guess. I just hope he doesn't harm Sanchez or put him in danger.

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I think rather than sanchez we will ave to worry about KCS. That psycho seems to hold a grudge.

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My take is that Sanchez is a person who is rich, yeah, but that has his heart in the right place. At the beginning of the Drama I asked myself about how it was possible for a poor man who was also the son of a thieve to live in such a luxurious place with the owner of a pizza franchise. later it was revealed that he was rich.

Then in this episode we basically learn that Chang-Sung was the one that gave him his friendship even at the worst moment, when no one gave a cent for him and tried to force him into suicide.

All the money in the world can not buy a true friend. It is just a gift to be cherished.

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Sanchez and Chan-sung's friendship is truly a gift. I liked that their friendship is a really deep one.

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Chan-Sung's dad kind of improved himself after meeting Man-Wol. He moved to the US (I think), and became somewhat not so poor. The story behind how they got close is touching though.

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Man weol deposited a lot of money in the bank to raise chan sung. That could have been a help too.

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Well, if Chang-Sung's dad had a good head over his shoulders and he only needed seed money to start a business then that could be =)

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By the way guys, It's Yeon-woo, not Young-soo. Chan-sung, not Chang-sung. 😂

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Young-soo is the name of the soul who used to be Yeon-woo in a past life. So it's the same soul played by the same actor, but technically he's two different people.

I know it's confusing, but I'm calling him Young-soo when he's in his present incarnation, and Yeon-woo when I refer to him when he first knew Man-wol in the past. (Same for Mi-ra/Song-hwa... she's Mi-ra in the present but Song-hwa in the past.)

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omg I didn't even notice that we already have a name for present Yeon-woo. Thanks for the correction!

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NP - it's confusing that the names look very similar. I keep having to make sure I'm calling him by the right name!

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Why is Pink Mago called "the older sister"? Pink Mago calls Flowers Mago "첫째언니" (first oldest sister) and Apothecary Mago "둘째언니" (second oldest sister) making Pink Mago the youngest sister.

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Probably because she has more whiter hair haha even i get confused. But yes she is the youngest actually according to the Mago sisters.

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I am really tired of seeing people diss Mira and say she doesn't deserve love or redemption. Are we all just gonna gloss over the fact that MW and YW were MURDERERS and THEIVES! Everyone just collectively went blind during the raid scene when they attacked the caravan and killed guards and servants? Not saying MW and YW aren't adorable little puppies but why are we all rooting for their happiness but no one else? You guys realize it was CM job to catch the rebels and the thieves right? It also was a common punishment back in ye ole times to hang people for murder and theft. So try again and explain how she's so evil? I'm not denying that she was cold hearted and arrogant, she definitely made a deal with CM to get him to marry her but has anyone watched a historical drama? She was acting like a typical spoiled princess. Yes, CM betrayed her by capturing the gang but he had a job to do. He couldn't save all of them and did what he could to save her. He told her if you want to kill me that means you have to stay alive. He was fine with her hating him if that meant she was alive. Anyone with eyes can see he's not happy during any of those scenes but again he was a palace guard who was sent to capture the criminals.

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100% agreed. And Song-hwa has paid the price of her sins by reincarnating as animals (presumably) in the past. And we can even see that there's still remaining consequences in present Mi-ra, being left with debts and kicked out from her parents' house. Mi-ra deserves to be happy.

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I wish we had been shown more in the flash back scenes. As it stands we are only shown MW's perspective which would be why most people are siding with her and saying the princess was just outright evil. Yes, MW looked like a girl in love but so did the princess. She also looked terrified when she realized she was going to die. She wasn't some heartless monster who felt nothing. She got murdered on her wedding night for doing her duty as a princess. She didn't have to spare MW but she did. As much as I adore MW ( IU is killing this role ) I have yet to see her feel remorse or apologize for ANY of her crimes. The only thing she feels bad about is that her men died. I think that's why Mago called her arrogant. She refuses to see her wrongs but she hates CM and the princess for doing their duties.

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Of course people see that, but you know sometimes it's pretty hard to see things from both perspectives and still have a perfectly neutral reaction. Yes Mi-ra has finally incarnated into a human meaning she has probably partially/fully repented for her actions. Though it is hard to symphasize with her when we see how her past self acted. Ofc if this drama was about her, we'd probably already love her already due to the redemption arc she'd be given, but it's not. This show is about Man-Wol. Who as we know is bound to the hotel because of the sins she has committed in the past. Not saying we should turn a blind eye to Man-wol's crimes when she acted as a thief but she's the mc so we are more inclined to side with her and not like her enemies aka Mi-ra's past self. I'm not saying that Mi-ra doesnt deserve a second chance but you know it's just hard to like her when the perspective we usually see her through, is from the main character Man-wol.

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Well, no. I DIDN'T forget that they were thieves and also took other's lifes. Man-Wol has also been punished serving her sentence for more than a thousand years. It's just that we have to think in the perspective of people living in those eras, in the middle of war/colonization. Kill or be killed kind of situation. Although this cannot be the reason to justify their actions, it's just make them understandable. Both sides kill each other. The fact that Mi-Ra&Chun-Myung also took their lives doesn't make them villains. It's the unfair approach they used that put them on the not so noble brim.

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Okay but her punishment would not have lasted a thousand years had she actually repented. That's why mago sent Chang sung to basically force Manwol to open up and change because she wouldn't do it on her own. She literally in a prison of her own making. Which is why all the workers were freaking out because as soon as Manwol "blooms" then its all over. So you can't use the argument about the length of her imprisonment when it is all entirely up to Manwol how long she's stuck in limbo.

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Not using the length as an argument to justify her actions. I'm just pointing out that what she did was 'wrong' that's why she's being punished. As you kind of state in your original comment that some people forgot that Man-Wol and Yeon-Woo also did bad things.

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Based on what the various Mago's have said, I was under the impression that she's still the hotel owner because she isn't able to forgive herself for what happened to her friends/family.

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They didn't kill anyone. All the servants are in a circle and there's no bodies laying on the ground when CM jumps on his horse to chase after her.

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I was raging at Mi-ra and Man-wol's insensitive underreactions today. Sanchez just confessed to Mi-ra he was thisclose to committing suicide, yet she never even sympathized with him. She just nonchalantly remarked, "That's how you two got so close." How did this girl become a doctor?! Ji-won's "Die 121 | Live 98" suicide bet postcard and gun in a gift box messed me up. Chan-sung is a hero.

Then Chan-sung revealed to Man-wol his mother did not want him to be born, and Man-wol yelled and blamed him for bringing it on himself. "I'm just sad that I can't feel happy even after meeting my mother for the first time" ripped my heart out. I was thankful Chan-sung honestly admitted to Sanchez, "I just feel a little sad" instead of pretending he was fine.

That stare between Man-wol and Young-soo was beyond emotional. Chan-sung should not be given credit for bringing Yeon-woo back to Man-wol because Pink Mago was the one who intervened, which makes me think Pink Mago will have a hand in bringing Chung-myung back. If Yeon-woo was able to subconsciously recognize Man-wol, then Chung-myung will be able to too.

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Doctors are generalised with the idea of death,they won't be able to function if they overly sympathize or empathize with death because they encounter death everyday every hour. So they have to be somewhat immune to the shock of it.

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It was brilliant how the Hong Sisters wrote the scene with Man-Wol and Bartender Kim so that we were in on the joke, anticipating Man-Wol's reaction(s) to his matchmaking. I was dying of laughter throughout those scenes. She was, as the saying goes, "hoisted by her own petard".
As for reincarnation and who Chan-Sung is. It seems the characters assume he is not Chan-sung. Man-Wol says Chan-Sung will bring “him” (unless this pronoun does not refer to the Captain?). But wouldn’t it be just like the Hong Sisters to create the dramatic tension that Man-Wol has to decide to pursue her revenge or choose to let it go for the man she has fallen in love with, who also is the reincarnation of the man who betrayed her and her people though he has no remembrance of doing so. It would be Mira all over again, but with bigger stakes.
I am conflicted if the writers choose to go such a route. I just hope that whatever the outcome, it will feel like just right within the context of the story.

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Who died when Well Spirit popped up to give Chan Sung back that Ferrara? That was hilarious. This episode was the competition for MOST OBLIVIOUS being. Scholar Kim wins though. XDDDD

MAN WOL FEELING CHAN SUNG'S FEELINGS

The unifiying theme of this episode was Chan Sung giving Man Wol the taste of his feelings. First he forced Man Wol eat with him, mimicking her expression when she first threatened him to get to the restaurant before it closes. Then at the restaurant Man Wol get all pouty, just like Chan Sung's face when she was blabbing about the dumplings last time.

The short but essential mother-son reunion seemed out of the blue, but I think it played a big part to change Man Wol’s mind. She finally understands how Chan Sung feels — when he sees her trapped in eternal sadness and is told to step aside and let her be. Given some time to digest the situation, Chan Sung has the resilience to take his mom to the hotel, but she did it for him. She normally wouldn’t care if a ghost haunts someone’s library, but because she couldn’t even give Chan Sung a simple pat on the back when he needed it, she had to do something, anything to ease his mind. That is how Chan Sung feels about her all the time. She’s so desperate that she does his thing — sit down with the staff and ask questions to find a solution.

Man Wol's first reaction to Chan Sung's mom was her own reaction to many things -- blame herself, get mad, get revenge. She blamed herself that Chan Sung had the ability to see ghosts. If he didn't he wouldn't have learned this brutal truth. She got mad at Chan Sung for being a weak pushover that allows people to hurt him. She wanted his mom to suffer for the pain she caused Chan Sung. This is a less intense version of her coping with Yeon Woo's death. However Chan Sung is different. He only wants to be sad. He faces the sadness head on rather than transform it into other emotions.

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CHAN SUNG & MOM:

Chan Sung is really an angel. How could someone, anyone, not agree to his birth? TT
Is that why the gods take extra care of him? Don’t you dare take Man Wol from him. ><

Abortion was illegal in South Korea (legalized just 2019), so being born could mean his mom had no choice. Of course we would all like to believe that Chan Sung was born from parents who loved him. However there is still the possibility that his mom was just an irresponsible unmarried woman or worse, a woman married to another man. It seems she gave him up at infancy, even as early as him being named. She only had 2 pictures of him as a baby and an older picture that the father sent her when they moved to US, which was after he met Man Wol. Since she didn't recognize him at all, his father probably haven't sent her recent pictures. When Chan Sung met her at the tunnel, her lack of defense and his lack of curiosity suggests they knew among themselves the situation was inexcusable. A father doesn’t tell his son nobody agreed to his birth without being questioned. I think Chan Sung got his answers a long time ago. He just never believed it entirely.

I find it interesting that although Chan Sung's father has been very frank to him, he didn’t take his father seriously until he comes face to face with the proof -- both about his mom not wanted him born and about being sold to Man Wol. I guess because his father wasn’t an honest person to begin with. He doesn't believe his words but he believes his love for him. Now he’s dealing with another person who doesn't speak honestly -- she lies to hide her true feelings. Reading what people do and not what people say is Chan Sung's talent.

From the scenes of Chan Sung meeting his mom, it suddenly occurred to me how LITTLE he cries. Jingoo is known to have sensitive ductwork. Zero 9 was just flooding my screen with coolant several weeks ago. Now we have Chan Sung who (reasonably) hasn’t shed a tear besides the death of his father and the illusion of Man Wol turning to ashes. (From the making videos, we actually see Jingoo insisting NOT to cry with IU.)

I’m glad Chan Sung meeting his mom wasn’t some makjang scene. It shows how mature and mentally strong this man is. He’s upset of course. The most upset he’s ever been about his personal matters. However despite the disappointment of actually proving your mom never wanted him born and continues to keep it a secret even after her death, his grudge, if any, didn’t obscure his judgement. There was no hesitation to personally send her away. He didn’t allow any room to regret this in the future, giving up this moment out of spite. Act now and sulk later. So many kdrama characters can learn from him.

I'll admit that the reunion felt underwheming and left many questions unanswers. Unfortunately this is Man Wol's show and I believe the writers want to keep it that way. Even Chan Sung's reunion was about her. From every ghost story we see Man Wol learning some...

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I'll admit that the reunion felt underwheming and left many questions unanswers. Unfortunately this is Man Wol's show and I believe the writers want to keep it that way. Even Chan Sung's reunion was about her. From every ghost story we see Man Wol learning some lesson and changing. This just happens to be Chan Sung's mom. As I said above, she changed her mind about pushing Chan Sung away. And through Chan Sung, she learns a different way to grieve. As much as I love Jingoo and would love to watch more of Chan Sung growing up, dating Mira, dumping Mira, losing his mom, finding reasons to his unwanted birth, basically be the male lead that he is entitled, Chan Sung's single most important point in this drama is to teach humans (Sanchez), ghosts (guests), and those in between (Man Wol) how to move on. What better teaching than to show how he does it in his own situation?

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"irresponsible unmarried woman" I don't know why but this robs me off the wrong way ... the told us nothing much so i cant defend mother dearest ... but it takes two to tango ...

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As the show has shown us, dad is not the greatest person either.

It only makes Chan Sung more precious to have grown up so morally better than his parents.

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I wasn’t finished but in a hurry... lol

Why do I think the mom is irresponsible?
Mostly because she didn’t recognize her grown son. She died recently, after his dad. Dad lived until Chan Sung became a grown man. If there was any contact between them, she should know how Chan Sung looks. Apparently his dad tried to send Chan Sung to the school she taught at. His dad also provided their address in US. He gave her plenty of chances to reach her son. In the scope of what we’ve seen, she hasn’t. When Chan Sung offered to destroy the items in the book, she was happy. There was no lingering attachment to those pictures.

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Of course, he was a theif as well. These are untold events, but the drama did not show enough to get the whole picture.

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OMG, Mago’s matchmaking is deabak!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It makes perfect sense.

There’s a saying that couples were once enemies. Although Yeon Woo died in the attack ordered by the princess, they hold no personal grudges — its all because they belonged to different kingdoms and their sociopolitical positions made them enemies. I never think of the Princess herself being an evil human because her times was about survival of the fittest (kingdom). And in this lifetime, Mira is just an average girl trying to use debts as an excuse to cling to a (still single) man she wants. The idea of her being with Yeon Won and probably loving him deeply later is the best way to settle her debt to him.

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This tongue-in-cheek tone is one of the Hong Sister greatest strength, Pink Mago and all that matchmaking was the best part of this episode, I laughed throughout the whole scene at the phone booth, and then I almost died with Mira from second hand embarrassment when Young Soo checked the pen colour on his hand, how very detective of him ;)

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Mira (the actress) is killing this role. I wanted to draw her a hole 🕳 to escape that embarrassing moment 😂

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"Who died when Well Spirit popped up to give Chan Sung back that Ferrara?"

ME ME ME ME
with that innocent face of Nam Da-Reum, I was on the floor laughing to death.

I think that the medicine will.come back into play on the later episode. We might get the taste of noble idocy after all.

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Damn that eye contact between Man wol & reincarnated Yeon woo has been the best scene for me in this show till now. It was just so emotional & warm & very beautifully done. T_T

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"But I felt like Chan-sung’s mother’s story was really rushed, especially since neither Chan-sung nor anyone else has ever mentioned her or wondered about her at all"
Yo it was waaaaay rushed. I mean I understand the conclusion to that 5 minute story but also I don't. Both mom-son had 1 day to process this big news & next thing I know she's on a car to heaven. Oh well, the ghost story arcs are having rather different endings in this show so I'll get along with it.

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"but I feel as though a truer ending to Man-wol and Chan-sung’s story would be for them to let each other go in this life, having changed each other for the better."

I'd really like this kind of ending but also I have this feeling that it most probably won't happen. Anyway *fingers crossed*

Also knitting-Mago making 2 very incompatible souls crossing paths surprised me 😅 Like, was it necessary. She killed him in past life & now ...😅

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Can't believe that the lively&lovely Sanchez bears such a painful past. No wonder why he's so dedicated to Chan-Sung.

Anyway, the Man-Wol&Chan-Sung hug at the end was completely ruined by the looks Man-Wol and Young-Soo exchange with each other. Their feelings for one another cannot be expressed by word alone. Kudos to both actors.

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Chan sung's mother was sent to heaven, so despite the fact that she gave up on Chan sung it seems she was quite a good person. The pictures showed of her and chan sung as a baby already sitting up. So it seems she raised chan sung for sometime at least till his father can look after him by himself, where she could have left him with his dad as a new born. Abortion can be illegal but people always find ways to do that in illegal means, there are people who are willing to do that for money. So if chan sung's mother really wanted to abort him she could have done that. She was probably an unwed mother which is a hard situation for women in Asia specially. If she simply had divorced chan sung's father she doesn't really have a reason to hide her past so much.

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Everyone gets into the “To Heaven” limo, but if you look closely, she didn’t hold a lily. Lily is the symbol of having a good afterlife, not the ride.

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I didn't notice that, thanks for bringing it up. I was also wondering why she got limo ride, if her reason for giving Chan Sung up was never explained to us.

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But some people get to the bus as well 😅 they said limo is provided for good people. If i remember correctly Mr. Noh didn't hold a lily as well. Maybe people who are getting extra fortunate living gets the lily!? Or people who gets Mago's blessings, maybe not everone gets it. But i do think in the afterlife they get judged for their sins and merits before getting a reincarnation or a place in heaven. Have you seen "Along with the gods", where the firefighter guy is escorted to the heaven as a special soul because he had done so many good deeds in life. But in the afterlife the 3 people who escorted him had to help him prove his intentions on everthing because he had done some questionable deeds as well.. I am a buddhist (a theravada buddhist) so reincarnation stuff are quite familiar to me. In a reincarnation the both good deeds and bad deeds geta back at you. For example maybe one will be born in a good family because of the good deeds he/she has done, and will be childless because they have neglected a child in a previous life.

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So far there’s no mentioning that the limo is a ride to a better place than the bus. Both seems neutral. Only the lily is some indicator of having a better afterlife.

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But wasn't lilly a payment for hotel services as well? I remember in last episode the staff said the hotel size dependent on how many flowers they get from Mago if guest left happy, and sending them by bus made a lot of them to complain so they didn't get many flowers.

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And i also think out of all the professions writers can put chan sungs mom in, they made her an elementary school principle. See the irony? She gave up her child but was surrounded by so many other children while she can't reach out to her own son. She must have suffered in heart at least a bit but also compensated by helping other kids in the world. She didn't burn or destroy the pictures which she would have done if she had no warmth for chan sung in her heart. Instead, she kept them hidden. So others wouldn't find them but also she'll get to keep them as well. Her soul was restless because now that she's dead she cannot keep them hidden anymore for long and she was unable to leave to the afterlife. She didn't get a lily, so in her reincarnation she may face difficulties than the rest who got one. But may live a better life than the people who got on the bus.

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@jingbee Since this world has established the concept of reincarnation, “To Heaven” means nothing. None of the ghosts are going to be a god/deity. What does heaven mean if you’re gonna be dropped back into another life?

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After rewatching I think you are right. It does not indicate anything except for PPL. Limo rides mean longer scenes and thus longer exposure for the car. LOL. Kidding aside, in the story, the opposite of getting a ride is ceasing to exist..

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No they kind of mentioned that through things like "she'll even get a limo". I think man weol said that regarding police woman in the beginning. Then why there are two means of transportation after all. Everyone can get on a bus. Bus is for common people, where limo (means luxury) is privided for special ones. There are so many souls in the hotel. Many are directed for the bus ride. Only some gets the limo.

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There are 2 rides "to heaven": Bus and Limo/Car
Bus:
- Souls who need to go as they can't stay in the human world for too long
- Souls who didn't get any closures/ have some lingering left (example: Kim Sunbae - Manwol always tells him to go to the bus because he's 500 years overdue and still hasn't solved his shame which means he got no closure yet)
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- Special souls who've been really good
- Souls who have no regrets or lingering left (example: Chansung's mom - she had no regrets or lingering left after saying sorry to her son and having his pictures in his hands and not for anyone to discover)

MaGo's lilies: Given to souls who's next reincarnation will have a good life. Those who didn't receive lilies will mean their next reincarnation won't be that lucky with life maybe due to that they have to pay for past sins until their reincarnations will be good like Mi-ra.

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No, people who got on the bus also don't have any regrets left, thats why they are driven to the after life.

When they were relocating the hotel to the rural area, they sent some people to the after life through the bus. What the room manager seo hee specifically said was "people who have no regrets can get on to the bus to afterlife" , and for who has regrets to be in another line and will be taken to the new location. The grim reaper also said them to chose well because they cannot return after getting on the bus. The staff woman who had no regrets after seeing her kid go to college got on the bus, while the writer who couldn't decide because of the unfinished novel stayed behind. Going to the afterlife peacefully is something left to the soul to decide, whether he or she gets a limo or the bus is decided by the good or bad karma they have done.

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From the earliest explanation, the bus is for ghosts who left on their own. The hotel didn’t run a bus service (except this special case of moving the hotel, simply because guest volume was high). Ghosts that hung out in the living world too long and missed their bus stayed at the hotel. So when they are ready to leave the hotel, the hotel sends them to the same destination by limo. It’s basically an Uber. The destination was mentioned when Man Wol hitched a ride with the 120 granny, she told Death “drop me off at the hotel or directly to ... (I forgot the name) “

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@sph_7 haha i must be getting on your nerves now. Sorry if it is like that but bus was provided for hotel guests as well. If you rewatch you'd find these,
1) when the king actor guy was found out by the staff man weol said just serve him breakfast and send him through the bus.
2) before the man who's wife came with her first love also was heading from hotel to the bus.

And mostly MW said kim seun bi to not to linger around bus catch the bus to the after life and leave.

Bus was mentioned many time and the limo is not provided by the hotel nor the bus. Its grim reapers job to transport them. People who never stepped on to the hotel rode the limo as well, like old man with the dog and the longest living woman in korea.

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It’s fine if you believe the limo means something. I think it’s just another form of transportation with a stylized custom plate. In my knowledge of Korean lore, everyone just goes to the same hell
first and be judged by Yeomra.

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@sph_7 "Since this world has established the concept of reincarnation, To heaven means nothing". Though the comment was directed at someone else, i will put my 2 cents as well according to the theravada buddhism. People who does a lot of good deeds are born in heaven first. But they do not spend their whole eternal life there, at some point their good karma that caused them go to heaven ends and they are reincarnated as humans on earth. Not every good karma gets you to heaven as well and some people are born next as humans right away. People who do really bad stuff are sent to the hell where they are punished for their crimes. And they may spend even 1000s of years there but once they are done paying for it they are again born in the real world mostly as animals for a long time, living and dying again and agun.. some might be born as humans again as well eventually.

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Like I said above “None of the ghosts are going to be a god/deity.” Not one that stepped onto the limo seemed worthy of 天道. Even if someone is, Yeomra still the judgement protocol.

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I have seen Yeorma in along with the gods movie, (its a korean movie which explores the afterlife and kind of goes with buddhism) . We also have him in our folk lore and has a similar name for him. He is the god in the underworld or in hell. And i also think they are some sort of judged by some standards before being reincarnated even though the car had "to heaven" plate. I just wanted to express the mom probably had done good deeds to deserve to be sent by the limo instead of the bus. I have no idea how she will be reincarnated. The drama didn't mention yeorma i guess. I don't recall hearing about him.

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"Not one that stepped onto the limo seemed worthy of 天道." i hope the last two letters meant heaven. Didn't get it. Yes it is a good point, we are not shown what they did while they were alive. But from what they said about them they always expressed the idea that they lived a good life (the police woman, blind woman, 120 year old lady, dog owner etc). Anyways what i wanted to explore is why some are sent with other crowds in a bus while a few get a comfortable limo ride. Even in real life people who cannot afford to own a car or even get a taxi, rides on the bus, while people who can afford to buy a vehicle or get a taxi ride, travel by those means. They have the money for it. In the same manner who has enough merits for a limo ride go by the limo to the afterworld. While who has not enough merits to get the priviledge of the limo ride gets the bus. Even kim seun bi after 500 years of hotel service was told to catch the bus. Shouldn't he be provided with a limo if the limo was of the hotel service? He simply is the bartender and had not collected enough merits for the limo ride. The wanna be bride got a lily plus the limo ride so we are expected to understand that she probably has done lot of good stuff to deserve those. Their human lives are not explored to that extent so that we can know how they got these privileges. probably because it is not that relevant. This is a ghost drama after all.

With this i put this thread to rest at least from my side . I think i have said all i had to say. 😊

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That is an interesting thought. It can happen of course even though i always thought the limos and buses are quite separate from the hotel operated by the grim reaper. But at the same time i doubt it. At least from what i know it is not how karma works. You are punished or rewarded for your deeds only. Good deeds of others doesn't affect you. Chan sungs good karma will be under his account while mothers good and bad deeds are under hers, even though her son working at some afterlife portal is an extremely rare situation. It will be quite unfair too actually for more limo deserving souls if they do not get the limo while chan sungs undeserving mother gets one. Because of that i doubt it. Other than giving up her kid we don't know if she has done any other bad stuff and if she hasn't done any other bad stuff she is a saint compared to Man weol and even mira. 😅

And man weol does not seem the type of the person to prepare a limo ride for chan sungs mom just because she is chan sungs mom. She even initially thought to leave her at the library. Chan sung matters to her but not his mother. She could have easily make chan sung meet the mom at the hotel and let her leave by the bus. Instead she brought mom to hotel and since mom doesn't seem to have any regrets now that photos are not in the book she was ready to leave. I don't think chan sungs mother had anything special to say to him. All her time is over now. She is not alive anymore no point of making things up to him now when she didn't while she was alive . Man weol wanted to give chan sung a chance to say farewell to his mom so asked him to come before she leaves. Because otherwise she will never see her again.

While neglecting her child is bad she had done some other good stuff that got her the limo ride. That is what i wanted to express. Its my opinion anyway. I can be wrong but thats how i see it.

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Bus and limos are quite separated from the hotel and is also operated by the grim reaper instead of man weol* im missing some words up there in the comment above 😅

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Pulling strings in the afterlife is a very dangerous assumption. Individuals are supposed to be judged solely on their own deeds in life.

If we insist that Chan Sung’s mom had gone to the better after life (which I have no reason to believe given what we’ve seen), it should be based on the good karmic value of being a school teacher/principal for 20 years.

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Jiwon is soooo evil! How could anyone do that to our precious Sanchez???

Also the Jieun the rich granddaughter seemed nice anyone want her and Sanchez to get together? They can bond over studying abroad and rich people things and then combine their wealth and raise cute little chaebol babies.

Evidently I absolutely adore Sanchez.

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I would like it so much if it turns out Chan-sung ISN'T the reincarnation of the prince (or whatever he was), I would instead like to learn the prince was reincarnated as the professional binge-eater that Man-wol idolizes. If you're going to save up the big reincarnation twist til the end you ought to make it a twist that nobody expects.

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I might be one of the few who thinks Mi Ra and Young Soo might make a good couple. They're past selves might be enemies and she caused his death, but that's no longer relevant at this point since both have no recollections of their past and have most likely atoned for the sins of their past selves with their previous incarnations before this timeline. I also don't see Princess Song Hwa as evil, as some have pointed out, she did her duty as a princess in eliminating their kingdom's enemy.

As for Chung Myung, I still think he did what he did in order to ensure Man Weol lives. I'm guessing he struck a deal with the princess that he'll marry her in exchange for Man Weol's life. He was willing to pay a steep price (slaughter of Man Weol's people + her everlasting hatred) if it means ensuring she gets to live.

I'm still on the fence about Chan Sung being a reincarnation or not. I think that he isn't and that he's a totally "new" person, unrelated to the past events, but on the other hand, wouldn't it be a good twist if he ends up as Chung Myung's reincarnation? It would come as a full circle with him causing Man Weol's descent and in the end him helping her find her way back into the light. Perhaps, after all the misunderstandings, she'll somehow end up waiting for him on the other side.

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I would really like it if MR being a doctor would turn out to be important in the story, for instance if psycho serial killer dude tried to hurt YS and she ended up saving his life. Not only would that help viewers reconcile with their relationship, but it would also help with the big cosmic-righting-of-wrongs narrative: compensating for past hurt with love and kindness as opposed to MW's eye for an eye approach.

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Yes, this would be a wonderful resolution to that painful righting of wrongs.

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Thanks for the recap. I really loved this episode. Some thoughts:

About the followup of MW dragging CS behind the wall: I loved that he was so matter of factly about the gesture after seeing her clearly flustered. But what she said was simply trying to confirm that he is not the kind of person who would get swayed by the idea of marrying into a chaebol family (you don't care about money, right? you like boring poop-colored things...). But he completely missed the point and thought that she was still sour about the Baekdu painting debacle. But what I found interesting was that despite of it, she did not really prevent the two meeting, she just sadly watched them together (and it is interesting that they do make a rather lovely couple), and then walked away.* She is willing to let go if that makes him happy.**

She is also slowly learning that anger does not solve anything… it can’t make the person who is leaving stay (you Harvard swindler!)… and it can’t help comfort the one you love when he is sad… (If you'd listened and stopped seeing ghosts I would not have hurt you again). Since CS came into her life, her tried-and-tested survival mechanisms are all of a sudden useless … and that is a good thing. I love that meeting his mum makes him the emotionally vulnerable one for a change… and that, even if she clearly has no idea how, she does her best to offer comfort.

About CS and mum: someone very cleverly noted that meeting his mum might be a fallback of the curse that MW cast on MR (being unwanted by parents) and I like that interpretation a lot. I thought the way that meeting was handled made a lot of sense: If she chose to abandon a child as amazing as CS she must have had good reason. She is not trying to make excuses, and she went on leading a good life (taking care of other people's children, and maybe that was her penance).Whenever I think I’ve reached the end of CS’s amazingness he surprises me once again: him asking to keep his mum’s photos… Although he was hurt by her rejection, CS still decided to forgive her and to keep the good part of her in his heart - he's indirectly showing the way to MW as well.

And I love^infinity that ending, that finally she asks him to stay by her side… through it all, down to the unavoidably sad ending… as he promises to do his very best to stop it from happening. When the truth of CM’s betrayal was finally revealed, all I wanted for MW was for someone to give her a tight long hug… to be allowed to cry, to morn the death of her loved ones, and her broken heart. Took more than a thousand years but we are finally there...

And I get when people say that the point of this story is healing and letting go, but I also think that love plays a critical role in the process. CM's betrayal makes romantic love the hardest possible emotion for MW. Her allowing herself to fall for CS is what is healing her vengeful broken heart. And I love every minute of it.

But I think she is wrong about...

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But I think she is wrong about the test the gods still have in store for her: It’s not meeting CM again that would make her go berserk, but rather someone hurting her loved ones again. I’m scared of the serial killer dude and of what he will do to CS and copYW (I should start calling him YS, but that does not feel quite right somehow)… please all stay safe

*MW being MW means that she can still make the best of even the worst situation, like getting some money from grandpa chaebol for her troubles.

** ghost bride taught her well

Also: how cute is MW giving up on the eating comedian because he now reminds her of CS

I like the idea of copYW and MR dating… that love can erase the hurt caused in a past incarnation… beats an eternal circle of revenge any day

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I wonder if introduction to serial killer will be done by framed guy wife? She can show up in hotel and ask them to clear her husband name for her to move on?

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Although it touch a lot of serious issues, this episode stand out for me for it's comedic content. Pink Mago was hilarious in that phone booth scene, kudos to actress, and I loved Mira hustle, when she tried to get Young So number and last but not least Bartender Kim, who found his calling as a matchmaker. They made this episode for me.
And finally we got some exposition on Sanchez, I remember a lot of Beanies thought he was shady, just because he is chaebol, but he is actual unicorn, chaebol with the heart of gold.
My only complain is the mother story, it's deserved more time and better explaining, it felt really shoehorned last minute, and her going to heaven in limousine felt weird without that.

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The implication of the limo ride to heaven is that she was a good person and had led a good life, worthy of heaven. How does that reconcile with having left the child with his father? Although we haven’t been given the reason, there must have been a compelling GOOD reason, one that heaven can accept. If she really abandoned her child and wanted nothing to do with him, she would never have kept those pictures. The fact that she kept those pictures (and looked at them enough for their edges to get a little bit worn) in spite of the threat they posed (enough for her to remain as a ghost to protect the secret) speaks to the depth of emotion and attachment. Pathos done well, I think.

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I love that Young-Soo and Mi-Ra ended up together too. I know some people don't but I feel like they were meant to be right in the beginning. I knew that shot/scene when he smirked as he took the parcel from the princess in the past meant something. Also Mi-Ra did kill him in the past but has repaid for her sins. Yeon-Woo at the same time was a theif. He's a bad person too but from our prespective he isn't, so it's justified he has probably repaid for his sins too.

"But I appreciate that for once there wasn’t some secretly good reason for her hiding Chan-sung’s existence… she was just not a good mother. "
YES, I love it too. It wasn't cliched. No need for it either. It was short but enough. I feel like we never really needed any info about his mother but it's nice they gave it to us too.

I wonder if Sanchez and Ji-won are also related to the past. I know Chan-Sung isn't Chang-Myung but to me, I still feel like he's his descendant and that's where the connection is from. Also, from the looks of it Ji-won really is a psychopath. Although it would be interesting if he's like Yu-na in which it's the psychopath's soul possessing Ji-won's body.
I'm excited to see reincarnated Chang-Myung. I wonder what he'll be. Maybe Ji-won's next victim? oohhhh......

Also I love that Man-wol and Chan-sung aren't overly romantic. The pace is right for their relationship. I love how it isn't forced. I'm already invested in how much they care for one another and I'd actually be happy if they don't end up together. I feel like the best ending would be for Chan-Sung to send Man-wol of and him continuing his life until after a few decades both Man-wol and Chan-sung gets reincarnated and falls in love like Mi-ra and Young-Soo's situation.

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A lot of things happened!

Mira-Young-Yun Woo/Young Soo : I like them together. The both in the past had their life entangled with the love story of Man Wol and the Captain. Now they're free.

Sanchez : His past story was pretty awful O_O How can someone send a gun like that? I'm really curious how CS handled the serial killer. But I'm happy Sanchez and CS found each other and stayed together. For the present, the serial killer will obviously try to hurt CS and Mina, I hope he won't use and hurt Sanchez to do it.

CS and his mum : it was kinda weird. They never used the words Mum or Son when they met. But in the same time, I liked that CS accepted the fact he never had a mother and nothing could change things now. And the mother never tried to justify herself. I think it's more honest.

I liked how Man Wol finaly accepted that she needs CS for work but in her personal life too, even if she wants to use him to get her revanche agains CM. I think she knows too that if one person can stop her, it's CS.

I like the tree with blue flowers :) and I want the OST (Punch)!

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Yes, re: serial killer, I feel like he wasn't the type of person who would go away because he was given stern talking, Chan Sung had to have something to threat him, maybe he obtained that gun illegally ;)

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Yeah, I'm curious how he threatened him.

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Guns are very legal in USA

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But he is an alien? I'm not sure is he could legally obtain gun.

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Citizenship has nothing to do with gun possession.

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@geliguolu, I had no idea that US gun law is that lax, that's crazy.

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@geliguolu and @shach I think it depens of the state. Some States need a citizen card to buy a gun but you can carry one without it...

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Yes, depending on state it can be extremely lax, asking for minimal ID like drivers license, which can be obtained without citizenship.

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If you have a gun license...

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Thanks @lollypip.
There's something sweetly poetic about Det Park and Mi Ra finding each other attractive. Yeon Woo had been charming thief who stole directly from Princess SH and is now a policeman. Princess SH had had Yeon Woo killed, but Mi Ra now, (who's pretty much a thief herself having not returned what she owes to Sanchez and Chan Sung), returns Park's pen to him and wants to exchange contact numbers as well.

Besides being an episode of couple-dom or attempts at couple-dom (and I found this a pretty dense episode), this was an episode about family. CEO Wang's granddaughter and the photo of her and granddad in the book was a nice reverse parallel with the photos of Chan Sung with his mother in the book "Existence/Being and Time".

Where one family openly celebrated the child with time spent over a happy children's book, the other had hidden the existence of a child in a sombre philosophical work.

Just as at the hotel the staff realise that they know nothing of CS's family, at the library, CS's mother's ghost is only concerned about keeping the book unopened.

CS tells MW about his childhood and admits he knows his father sold him to MW to keep him from being alone as he was his only family.

There's also the point on being sold. CS tells MW that he was at the library to sell off the painting and asks her what she came to sell to CEO Wang. She didn't tell him that she'd sold him off to the granddaughter, LOL, but she does later assure him that his father hadn't sold him off for selfish reasons.

Over on the side there's poor husband set up to take the fall over his wife's murder and Man Wol getting to see the reincarnation of Yeon Woo who was like family to her. We recall that MW feels the guilt of surviving when all her clan was killed for her mistaken trust, as if she too has for a millenium taken the fall for a crime, which in fact she did not commit.

And I'm glad we ended off on a note of hope and new growth, with MW fully admitting that she needs CS to keep her from self-destruction, and finally letting go of struggling just by herself, as she has done all along.

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I have a doubt, has it been explicitly stated that Man Wol died and is just waiting for afterlife OR time simply that time stopped for her and she is just in "existence "
Because if it is the latter and flower blooming on the tree signals that her flow of time will start again then why can't she just live out rest of her life as a human instead passing on to afterlife ?

After fulfilling her punishment why does she have to go to afterlife ?

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@healer99101 About the question on why the hotel staff are worried about losing their place.

It was the opposite that was explicitly stated. Man Wol herself says she's not dead, just existing.

Yes, what you say precisely. I too was hoping that with the restarting of her time, she does not immediately pop-off to afterlife but lives out the rest of her life as a 'normal' person in this life. I believe the ghosts and MW think that she's past her due time to leave after resolving her past sins, therefore with the blooming of the tree, which is a sign that her sins are being dealt with and she's opening up to truly being alive, they and she think that she ought to be on her way.

She could indeed still have a goodly 60+ years of life, but maybe that's not long to ghosts who have remained for hundreds of years.

The other things is that even if she were to continue alive, she may no longer be the owner of the Hotel, ie the Moon Tree too may disappear. MG only gave her that role as part of her 'punishment'. If her punishment is done, and the tree disappears, then so too will the hotel, and the ghosts will have nowhere else to go. So it may not be that she goes to the afterlife immediately, but that the hotel may no longer exist, that is the issue.

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This comment may piss off a lot of people but what the heck. Let’s just bite the bullet.

1) I find this show incredibly obnoxious and arrogant.
It’s not particularly clever or original, I do not find the portrayal of its clichés to be refreshing, and the Hong Sisters do not care about their story or their characters, they simply care about looking flashy and cool and justifying their own opinions. Oh look what we did, look how pretty it is, aren’t we clever, aren’t we worthy, we will write cute little fable stories every episode, and then we’ll explain the fable at the end so you know exactly how you’re supposed to feel and react, and who’s side you’re supposed to be on, and OH look at our Meta we know SO MUCH laugh now please I’m holding up a sign.

2) The Ma Go are self-righteous self inserts of the Hong Sisters themselves that only seek to control the story and make characters do what they want, without actually understanding what it is they’re telling or how to tell it convincingly or naturally.

3) Man Weol is not the kind of being to take her *burning into nothing* lying down, without fighting back, simply for the sake of revenge. She is not someone who is just going to sit back and let the Ma Go do whatever to her, she is not the kind of character who exists merely to be a playtool of the gods so that they can… prove whatever it is they’re trying to prove (if they have any point at all).
It is disingenuous to her character to cheapen her to a mere revenge story and someone that needs saved by a love interest and it negates any power she has or nuance she has in her own right. They did it with The Monkey King in Hwayugi too, and I called them doing it with Man Weol as well in episode one. And what do you know.

4) Chan Seong is both simultaneously the most sickly sweet and righteous good person in the entire universe and also a self-insert of the Hong Sisters moral views disguised as an ambitious frat boy. It is jarring. And annoying. He plays with Man Weol’s love of money and draw to protect him as if it is a joke, and the script isn’t self-aware enough to realize this comes across as emotional manipulation instead of humour, and feeds to this relationship’s horrific dysfunctionality.
Man Weol needs “I’m not going anywhere because I care about you” not “I’m going to keep getting in trouble so you have to protect me”.
She needs someone who will just stubbornly love her unconditionally no matter what she does or says like brutally and truthfully is just like “I want the best for you and I’m here for you and I will love you not matter what” and then repeats again and again till she’s powerless against it. And every time the Hong Sisters forget this side of Chan Seong in order to make a joke, or push some other story motif or motive, or just because of the bad dialogue, I end up disliking Chan Seong a little bit more.

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5) Their relationship is weird and toxic and dysfunctional and somewhat abusive, and manipulative and is she a badass tsundere powerful spirit or is she a damsel who needs saving by the gods’ designated saviour…

6) The plot makes no sense.
Man Weol commits an atrocity out of the hurt of betrayal, goes to find the Hotel of the Moon, becomes the owner of the Hotel of the Moon, for no explained reason other than that we need a premise. Is she dead? Is she dying? What is the Hotel before and after her? Why did the Ma Go’s choose her? Why didn’t they force her to repent earlier? Why choose Chan Seong? Why not an embodiment of Chan Seong in the past? Why the 21st century other than that we NEED A PREMISE? Why do frakking anything in this show at all? Because the Ma Gos said so? Oh sorry, because the Hong Sisters said so? It has no agency of its own. It’s bullshit.

7) Every week I go into this trying to just look at it as a fun campy fantasy story, as something I can watch in humour and in jest, because perhaps I am just predisposed to hating this for deep internalized unknown reasons and maybe despite all to the contrary it’s just me. But every week I come out infuriated and frustrated. So I don’t really think it’s just me.

8) I have a big problem with how morality is written and viewed in this show but I honestly cannot be bothered arguing or really discussing why, because I will get nowhere and just make myself more annoyed. It’s a big issue for me though, and a big reason why I don’t like the show.

9) The dialogue and directing is still shit.

10) There’s all this great symbolism and intensity but I just can’t get behind this love line or whatever it’s supposed to be at all. It has all the things I’m supposed to like about redemption arcs and tragic love stories but I’m not buying it. I am not convinced by any of it.

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6) We know she's not dead or alive either. Her time stops. The hotel is bounded to his owner. The hotel will disapear in the same time than MW repent herself. In the past, MW heard about the hotel and searched it. But it didn't exist anymore, because it didn't have an owner. Mago chose MW as a new owner. She can't fight against the hotel, it will always follow her. So her only way to fight against Mago it was to not repent herself. Mago saw in CS her solution to help MW. Why now and not before? It's not really important.

It's a fantasy story and with deities playing the role of fate.

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Agree mostly about Mago... and in Taoism/East Asian Buddhism, deities are merciless and toys with living people all the time. It’s why Man Wol didn’t trust a Well “god” (he’s called a god in Korean) when he asked for Chan Sung. With the exception of Buddha and several bodhisattvas, Asians mostly believe that gods help when you give up something and disobedience is punishable. So any of the Magos can turn on Man Wol if she goes out of line.

Why this century? Because the incarnations are back. They took their time passing through the karmic cycles/wheels of life and their concurrent return to the human realm is a code red. There’s urgency to change Man Wol before she becomes a vengeful spirit. I don’t think Mago is entirely helping her out of compassion. Much like Monkey, Man Wol is much more powerful than humans. She can also become a much more powerful vengeful spirit than mere human. I think Mago’s intervention is done to keep her jurisdiction orderly.

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So by dint of it being in the religion of the area, it can be excused as an unstable plot device?

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7 to the 10 is actually how I felt about Hwayugi. Especially since they used the classic characters’ names without any masking but destroyed the classic plot.

This one, I can have some fun watching.

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You do know I also think Hwayugi is hot trash right. I just happened to enjoy the hot trash. I wouldn't defend its technical level against anything other than another Hong Sisters' Show for all the Monkey Kings in the world.
What about this is more fun to you?

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I actually see a lot of smaller messages threading in the ghost stories. And since these ghost stories are kept short, it doesn’t feel as bad as watching support characters taking over the main plot.

The pace is also more uniform. Their previous dramas make the otp fall in love in a relatively short time, and then nothing really happens after that. Stretching it out for a gradual romance gives more to look forward to towards the later half.

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Strong feelings indeed! And it happens to all of us! I am actually really enjoying this show. I can actually see where you're coming from with some of these things, even if they did not occur to me personally. There are two points you made that I'd like to comment on, though. (4) I think of Chang Seong's motive in doing things to both do what is right, and save Man Wol from herself, and putting himself into danger while doing so because he trusts her. (6) The lack of details that are irking you so much don't irk me, because as I see it so many old fables and tales also lack these details. Sometimes in stories and in life things just happen when they do because they just so happened that way. I'm okay with there not being a great significance to it. Man Wol was there, knowing and looking of the Hotel of the Moon, and was chosen by Ma Go. That's it. That's how I saw it at least. I get it that you want more though. I've been there!

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I will start by agreeing to disagree on a whole bunch of points, which I thought were fair and well articulated. But I want to say something about 4), in particular this bit: "Man Weol needs “I’m not going anywhere because I care about you” not “I’m going to keep getting in trouble so you have to protect me”.
She needs someone who will just stubbornly love her unconditionally no matter what she does or says like brutally and truthfully is just like “I want the best for you and I’m here for you and I will love you not matter what” and then repeats again and again till she’s powerless against it."

This saying the opposite of what you mean being a romantic thing is very common in Hong sisters writing, and it does not work for everyone. But in this particular instance I thought it made more sense than usual, for two reasons:
1) while you are perfectly right that what MW really needs to hear is "I love you and stand by you forever no matter what" she no longer believes in such kind of declarations. I believe that she would take an overt love confession like that very badly. Reverse psychology works here - she believes that he really cares because he acts on it rather than talking about it.

2) her biggest sin (in her heart of hearts) was failing to protect someone she loved deeply (YW). Being given the opportunity of protecting someone again is important to her. every time she is saving CS from danger she is getting a little bit more ok about the past - exposure therapy of sorts. even more so given that she is usually the cause of that danger in the first place (as she believes to be the case for YW).

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Also, the reason why she kept pushing him away was not his role in her departure but her deeply seated fear that she will ultimately fail to protect him too.

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Why does she need to save him? Why did she fall so easily in love with him other than the fact that he is the male lead. For years she's had several hotel managers and I refuse to believe he is the only one that happens to be kind enough to shake her heart. Especially since his character is so extremely self righteous and obsessed with saving her soul without giving back damn about what she wants. His whole premise in 'saving' her is based on his belief that it's what she needs he clearly doesn't care about what she wants. He is neither sweet nor selfless he is just obsessed with fulfilling a moral duty. MW is clearly not ready to have her time move again nor is she seeking redemption actively. It's not just her the hotel staff don't seem to really want to move on either and keep making excuses to stay. Which is why CS is just an annoying existence for them who is hastening their departure from the human world. I find him to be the worst male lead I've come across till date because he pretends to not be the stereotypical alpha male lead and yet that's exactly what he is in the most underhanded way. It's strange that people are so blinded by his assuming kind actions to not realise what a manipulative character he actually. Worse yet because he actually believes everything he does is right and necessary. Nothing about him is endearing.

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"why does she need saving" and "why from him specifically"....

hmmm... I don't have a clean easy answer to this. I believe she is stuck because she can't forgive herself for inadvertently causing the death of her crew. it is MW herself who believes that she doesn't deserve saving; she sees the ultimate destruction of her soul as more or less unavoidable. And yes, being who she is, MW is going to go out fighting the gods for the unfairness of that conclusion, even is it's essentially her choice. But there is also one minuscule sliver of hope in her, that makes her allow CS to stay around despite all of her protestations that she does not want him there. She needs him because -unlike her- he genuinely believes that she can be saved and more importantly that she is worth saving. Someone called CS's job 'suicide watch' and I think it's not a bad analogy.

Why him and not one of the unseen previous managers? Natural story selection bias -- because if it was someone else they would have told his story instead? I get that CS is not that easy to like... even if I personally find his awkward kindness endearing rather than irritating. I'd say MW falls in love with him because while other of her employees have likely cared about her before, he is the only one who's willing to bulldoze his way past her defenses... to challenge her and make her feel things that she stubbornly does not want to ever feel again.

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Manager Noh treated her very well. Probably most of the humans she allowed to work at the hotel wanted to make her happy but she didn’t want to explain her pains. Mago gave Chan Sung the ability to see what she went through. She didn’t have to lay down on a couch to explain what she feels and give a recap of how she got to where she is, which makes him her ideal therapist.

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This: “I’m going to keep getting in trouble so you have to protect me”.
is Manipulative.
This: “I want the best for you and I’m here for you and I will love you not matter what” and then repeats again and again till she’s powerless against it."
Is not.
I think Chan Seong's intent may be the latter, but is portrayed as the former so it comes across really wrong to me. Was my initial point.

1) Why wouldn't she believe it, especially if it were written well over time? Despite my poor wording, I also wasn't actually implying an overt love confession- at least not right away. Love doesn't have to be just the words I love you over and over again.
Unconditional love has a lot more to it than either that or what is actually shown in this show.
2) The "biggest sin" bit feels like Viewer Road Maintenance to me, id est, filling in gaps of canon with one's own justifications and reasoning, when it should be the job of the writing and the show to justify that. I also think you just view this show on a way deeper level than I do or even think it has so *shrugs*

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You basically said everything I've been thinking. This show is completely shallow and lacks self awareness. It's flashy and pretty but lacks chemistry and depth. It's a populist show for lack of a better word and if it weren't for IU and basically the character of MW written to be larger than life most people would not stick around to watch this drama. None of of the cameos make sense and are frankly just show off-y to grab eye balls. The ridiculously high profile OST line up is yet another marketing gimmick that contributes nothing to the actual drama. I might be overstepping to say this but the drama does not deserve it's ratings or popularity.

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The fact that the whole story is based on exactly what you said in no. 6 is the reason why the story isn’t working. The foundation of ‘the redemption arc’ is deeply flawed. Girl has friends. Girl falls in love. Boy betrays girl and kills her friends. Girl takes revenge. Like you said it does not make sense for her to ‘be punished’ for a 1000 years for doing something anyone would have done at that time - kill someone. When the base is this weak how can the pieces of the story sustain itself?

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because that does not make sense, I stick to my interpretation that she is not being punished for her taking revenge but rather she is punishing herself for the original deed. She also killed a whole bunch of people and that is kind of enough for vanishing -- at least in some circumstances (and that's what MG#4 is arguing for all along) but she has stubbornly kept at it for so long because of her unwillingness to let go of the past not because the gods decided that she needed that much punishing.

but there is an interesting point there that I have also been thinking about: the human norms of morality have drastically changed in the past 1300y. How about the rules of godly punishment? For a karmic perspective is it any more acceptable to kill someone back in the day versus now? does it make sense to punish a deed the same way even if culturally they are viewed radically different then and now... got no answers for any of this but I think the question interesting

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