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Hotel del Luna: Episode 8

We’ve finally reached the halfway mark and it’s time to answer some of the burning questions regarding Man-wol’s tragic past. The ripples made by those events have followed Man-wol through her thousand year punishment and now the waves threaten to capsize our fragile ship. The question remaining is, to what end have the Fates decided for these souls to reunite?

  
EPISODE 8 RECAP

We open in the past as the city celebrates. At the palace, Chung-myung and the princess stand in their wedding garb staring up at the floating lanterns released by the citizens. The princess smiles brightly at Chung-myung and though he returns the gesture, he lacks her enthusiasm and his face falls the second he turns away.

Meanwhile, our favorite scarved thief slays the guards mercilessly and arrives at the bridal chamber. The princess excitedly assumes the figure at the door is Chung-myung and her face falls when Man-wol reveals herself. Cold fury burns behind teary eyes as Man-wol notes that Princess Song-hwa looks happy… before drawing her sword.

Man-wol brandishes at Princess Song-hwa’s neck and the princess glowers back, demanding why Man-wol came. “Do you think I came to congratulate your wedding?” Man-wol spits and the princess growls that she shouldn’t have shown Man-wol mercy. Man-wol notes that her smile earlier was beautiful, and that it’s a shame the groom won’t see it again. She declares she’ll greet him in Princess Song-hwa’s place and in one quick movement, slashes her throat.

In the present, Man-wol watches with horror as Princess Song-hwa’s current incarnation, Mi-ra, cheerfully greets Chan-sung and approaches them. Chan-sung apologizes to Man-wol, unsure how Mi-ra knew where he was. “You brought her here,” Man-wol intones, tears escaping her eyes as she realizes this was his true purpose and that the deities never intended to let her pass on peacefully.

Turning her attention back to Mi-ra, Man-wol is infuriated by her smile and kicks up a supernatural wind that knocks Mi-ra into the water. Chan-sung looks at Man-wol in shock and she orders him to go after Mi-ra, coldly stating that’s his job. He rushes over and throws Mi-ra a rope, but when he looks back, Man-wol is gone.

Chan-sung drives Mi-ra back and when they stop at a convenience store, she admits that she came to ruin his date but hadn’t expected to end up soaked. She wonders if Man-wol left because of her, shaking her head when Chan-sung asks if they know each other. Mi-ra pouts that she didn’t mean to be such a nuisance as Chan-sung ponders whether Man-wol was really responsible for the incident.

Mi-ra wonders if she should see a shaman to cleanse her of bad luck and Chan-sung immediately recommends salt and not to be alone, especially at night. Mi-ra laughs that her grandmother says the same things, attributing it to all the bad karma Mi-ra racked up in her past life and brandishes the bracelet she made her wear for protection.

Mi-ra whines that bad spirits are following her and begs Chan-sung to stay with her all night. Chan-sung doesn’t miss a beat saying he works at night and already called her a cab to take her the rest of the way home. Mi-ra tries to argue that she lost her purse, but Chan-sung cuts her off that she can add the taxi bill to the debt she already owes him.

Meanwhile, we see that Mi-ra’s purse isn’t lost after all as Man-wol searches through it on her bus ride home. She finds photos of Mi-ra with children and then the photo Sanchez had of the three of them followed some of just Mi-ra and Chan-sung smiling happily as couples do. “What a cruel twist of fate,” Man-wol mutters, deleting the photo, “Enough is enough, please.”

She chucks the purse on the floor, but her melancholy is broken when she snaps at a group of ghosts partying on the bus to knock it off already. Hee. They pay her no mind so she switches the bus radio to the news and tells them they can continue the party once she’s left the bus. Her eyes snap back open as she listens to the report of a woman that just died after living over 100 years.

That evening, Reaper guides the woman from the news to the afterlife limo only to be foiled by Man-wol appearing to suggest the woman stay to see the birth of her great-grandchild. Reaper argues she’s seen countless births in her family already but the spirit silently walks back inside to join her family. Turning on Man-wol, Reaper demands why she’s interfering with the passing of such a special soul and Man-wol barks that “they” won’t allow her to wander anyway and nods to the house as Mago escorts the spirit back out with a flower.

The women sit together afterwards and Mago guesses that Man-wol did it purposefully to see her. Man-wol sighs that she regrets it… not going to Song-hwa/Mi-ra sooner. Mago says that while Man-wol has been frozen in time, the princess has finally reincarnated as a human after living countless lives. She says their meeting is only due to their connection in the past, and suggests Man-wol just let her pass by.

Her eyes flash as Man-wol demands how she could let it go, but Mago points out that while the past still pangs for her, Mi-ra doesn’t even remember. Man-wol reasons this is why Mago had her cross paths again through Chan-sung… so she wouldn’t harm Mi-ra and would pass on peacefully. With a grim smile, Man-wol promises to return to the hotel and stay there.

Man-wol tells Reaper to allow her to ride along and Mago nods at him to do so. Pausing at the car, Man-wol asks, “Will… he come too?” but Mago only smiles sadly. As they drive away, Mago sighs, “For a flower to blossom, she needs to feel the wind, and face the rain too.”

Back at the hotel, Chan-sung learns from Bartender Kim and Seo-hee that Man-wol has yet to return. Chan-sung says she suddenly got mad and left him, but they wave it off as Man-wol’s signature moodiness, assuming she’s out shopping or eating. Chan-sung argues that she’s out of money but Bartender Kim assures him Man-wol can’t stay away from the hotel — it’ll only follow her if she tries.

Realizing their blunder too late, Seo-hee and Bartender Kim reluctantly tell Chan-sung that Man-wol’s punishment will chase her if she attempts to run from it. Neither able to pass on to the afterlife or walk among the living, Man-wol is trapped at the hotel. Apparently she tried to run many times in the beginning, but it never worked.

Seo-hee:“Ms. Jang is the Moon Tree. The energy of the Moon Tree is creating this space. Wherever she goes, the Moon Tree will put down roots there. And there stands the Guest House of the Moon.”

She adds that when Man-wol stays away for more than a day, the Moon Tree will follow and that’s why she must always return. Chan-sung questions why Man-wol is trapped here and Bartender Kim says he’d heard she nearly became an evil spirit but Mago bound her to the hotel instead. Seo-hee continues that while Man-wol sees it as a prison, the hotel also protects her from that fate.

The bus driver returns Mi-ra’s purse to her and she’s puzzled to find the only thing missing is her childhood photo taken at an amusement park. In her chambers, Man-wol glares at the picture, fuming that Mi-ra looked happy. Hearing footsteps, she steps out to greet Chan-sung, but it’s only Seo-hee. She tells Man-wol Chan-sung was worried and so she revealed why Man-wol is forced to return every night.

Man-wol finds Chan-sung on the roof and admits she’s the one that pushed Mi-ra. Chan-sung simply replies that Mi-ra is fine and Man-wol barks at him for not asking why she did it or reprimanding her. Chan-sung doesn’t know what to think since whatever is keeping Man-wol imprisoned for 1000 years must be bad, but his dreams only showed him a woman in love.

His words render Man-wol silent, but Chan-sung doesn’t seem to notice as he demands where she went after ditching him. Man-wol resumes her prickly facade and bends the truth to say she attended a dance party (on the bus) and attended a feast (the funeral ceremony for the spirit). Chan-sung grumbles that she could’ve brought him along and announces that they should do those things together from now on. Chan-sung vows that whether the hotel is a prison or a protective barrier, he’ll stay with Man-wol.

Elsewhere, rain pours down on a darkened home and a man nervously approaches the record player that started playing on its own. He smashes the record, but as he turns, the music resumes playing. Looking back, the record is back on the player and a young woman (cameo by Park Jin-joo) now sits beside it, greeting him as “Doctor.”

In a childlike voice, she chirps that she’s happy when it rains because they’ll be together. The man tells her he isn’t her doctor, but the young woman begs him to stay with her until the song ends. Sometime later, the man’s wife finds him standing in the dark living room, repeating the song lyrics in a daze. He stops when she calls his name and turns to her before crumpling to the floor.

Chan-sung returns home the following morning to find Mi-ra has invited herself to live with him and Sanchez. She claims that she’ too scared to be alone, shivering that her purse was found on a bus she’d never rode. Unwilling to entertain the supernatural at home, Chan-sung says someone probably found it and forgot it on the bus.

At the hotel, Man-wol and Hyun-joong walk through an in-hotel amusement park. Hyun-joong cheerfully asks when the guest they’re opening it for will arrive and Man-wol darkly replies soon. Meanwhile, Bartender Kim and Seo-hee are scoping out land on Man-wol’s request. They briefly wonder if she’s thinking of relocating the hotel, but wave it off since she’ll be too far from her favorite shops.

Hyun-joong sits with Yoo-na at Subway and fills her in on the new addition to the hotel. She coyly muses about going with her boyfriend and to her annoyance, Hyun-joong congratulates her for dating. She snaps at him for being an idiot and he pouts that he just wants her to be successful in life like Chan-sung’s girlfriend, who’s also eating at Subway.

Yoo-na says Man-wol tasked her with keeping tabs on Mi-ra and Hyun-joong praises his boss for looking after Chan-sung’s friends. Yoo-na sighs that this isn’t a kindness and asks if he could be nice to her boyfriend. Hyun-joong wonders if her boyfriend is mean and Yoo-na barks that he’s the meanest and dumbest boyfriend ever. Hee.

Yoo-na and Hyun-joong follow Mi-ra and her coworker home. Ah, she’s the wife of the man with the record ghost and Yoo-na and Hyun-joong spot the spirit in a window from the street.

Meanwhile, Sanchez tells Chan-sung that he lent Mi-ra an expensive vase… although in reality she’d taken it first and asked later. Chan-sung offers to get it back before she can sell it, but Sanchez assures him that if he doesn’t get it back, he’ll just seize Mi-ra’s salary. He offers Chan-sung a position at a new hotel, but Chan-sung has decided not to leave Hotel del Luna.

Sanchez wonders if there’s a special reason since Hotel del Luna doesn’t seem to match Chan-sung’s qualifications. Chan-sung argues that everything is high class and special and the only downside is not being able to brag. Sanchez breezily says he’d thought it was because Chan-sung had feelings for Man-wol.

Chan-sung nearly does a spit-take and Sanchez grins that he’s right. Chan-sung doesn’t argue, merely grumbles that Sanchez is sharper than he appears. When he leaves to refill Chan-sung’s drink, Mi-ra calls. Before Chan-sung can demand the return of the stolen ceramic, she asks if there’s any vacancy at his hotel.

Yoo-na attempts to get a photo of the ghost in the window, but sadly realizes they don’t show up on her camera. Chan-sung says it’s only possible when they make themselves visible to the living and Yoo-na begs him to do so now and cheerfully takes a photo together. Chan-sung startles them and Hyun-joong sheepishly admits they’d followed Mi-ra.

Before they can answer why, Man-wol appears and declares it was on her orders. Chan-sung assumes Man-wol is the one that put the ghost on Mi-ra and she blows up when he adds that she’s living with him and Sanchez. Man-wol barks that she had nothing to do with this ghost, but would’ve sent 108 after Mi-ra had she known they were cohabitating.

Man-wol relents and the pair go inside. The wife says they’d inherited the house from her husband’s parents and they’ve heard strange noises ever since they moved in. Mi-ra questions why Chan-sung and Man-wol came, and he explains that only those invited by Man-wol can stay at the hotel. The wife snips that they don’t need to stay at an exclusive hotel and Man-wol deadpans that’s fine by her.

Chan-sung rushes to stop Man-wol from leaving, imploring her to take the ghost to the hotel as a favor to a friend of a friend. Man-wol snaps that she doesn’t like his friend nor him for being friends with her but they’re argument is cut off as the record begins to play again. The wife is relieved that Chan-sung hears it too and he tells her their hotel has a special service for this, much to Man-wol’s chagrin.

He and Man-wol go upstairs to investigate and Chan-sung suggests he go in first, since Man-wol might scare the spirit away. She questions whether he’s afraid and Chan-sung smiles that she’s with him. He finds the ghost in the next room and calls out to her. She tearfully addresses him as “Min” and throws her arms around him.

Man-wol enters just then and Chan-sung throws out a hand to stop her from ripping them apart. The pair sit on the couch and Chan-sung tries to question the ghost as Man-wol searches the office for clues. She finds a diary and the ghost, Gyeong-ah, snatches it away. She addresses Man-wol as “Sook-hui” and spits at her for being jealous over “Min.”

Unbothered, Man-wol asks about the letters, instead. Gyeong-ah pointedly ignores her so Chan-sung asks and after resuming her sick act, Gyeong-ah pouts that she’s trapped indoors due to her health and has no friends. She’d sent her sob story to the radio station and the letters are well-wishes from listeners. She suddenly perks up and rushes to the window, saying “Hyuk” is here.

Chan-sung notes that the “doctor,” “Min,” and “Hyuk” all seem to be men that like Gyeong-ah and Man-wol adds that the only villain is “Sook-hui.” Chan-sung offers to continue the charade to bring Gyeong-ah to the hotel but Man-wol sighs that she can’t be a guest there. She removes the needle from the record and Gyeong-ah vanishes.

Man-wol explains that while the diary and radio letters are real, Gyeong-ah is an imaginary spirit created by someone else. She says that if they find the creator, they’ll be able to vanquish Gyeong-ah. Just then, the mother returns home and demands what Chan-sung and Man-wol are doing in her study.

Chan-sung fetches the diary that fell to the floor when Gyeong-ah vanished and the mother sends everyone else downstairs. Once alone, she admits to Chan-sung and Man-wol that she’d created Gyeong-ah to experience romance since she’d had an arranged marriage when she was young. She smiles sadly, but agrees to let Gyeong-ah go so that her son and his wife can live in peace.

As the woman burns the letters and diary, Chan-sung remarks that even if it wasn’t real, Gyeong-ah must’ve made marriage to a man she didn’t love easier. Man-wol’s expression is thoughtful as she agrees that changing one’s reality with an imaginary spirit is a good idea. She tells Chan-sung to accept the woman’s dinner invitation as she’s probably feeling lonely, but as “Sook-hui” is a villain, Man-wol decides to leave.

After she’s gone, the wife thanks Chan-sung for inviting them to the hotel, revealing to his alarm that Man-wol extended one to Mi-ra as well. At the same time, Mi-ra steps up to Hotel del Luna, marveling at its splendor. She’s guided to Man-wol, who’s waiting for her at the amusement park. Man-wol greets her with chilling politeness, adding that she couldn’t just let Mi-ra pass her by.

Mi-ra laughs awkwardly and praises the hotel, wondering why it’s empty. Man-wol clarifies that it isn’t — Mi-ra just can’t see anything because of the bracelet on her her wrist. She adds that Mi-ra hadn’t heard the music at the house either. Mi-ra asks if she’ll see things if she takes it off. With a noncommittal shrug, Man-wol holds out her hand and Mi-ra places the bracelet inside.

Closing her fist around it, Man-wol dissolves the bracelet into gold dust and Mi-ra grins at the amusement performers that appear. She sounds dazed as she tells Man-wol that she loves amusement parks and identifies the photo Man-wol holds out as one she’d taken with her parents and younger sister.

Man-wol shows her their spiritual copies and Mi-ra smiles happily. Man-wol’s false smile slips as she says she hates seeing Mi-ra happy… so she plans to breathe sadness into her. Everything suddenly goes black and when the lights return, the copy of young Mi-ra stands alone, looking glumly back at them.

Man-wol approaches the child and tells her that she doesn’t have a happy family and that her mother often told her she regretted giving birth to her while her father cursed at her. Man-wol continues that they only loved her sister and the day at the amusement park, they’d left Mi-ra all alone. Tears fall from the adult Mi-ra’s eyes as Man-wol sends the child to her with the mission to fill Mi-ra’s days with the sorrowful memories of a child that should’ve never been born.

The child stands before Mi-ra, eyes black, and stretches out her hands while Man-wol looks on with dark amusement. Chan-sung bursts inside and Man-wol thanks him for allowing her the chance to relieve her grudge a little. Her tone is severe as she warns that this is much stronger than the false spirit from earlier… it’s a curse.

Mi-ra shakily starts to reach out to the child as Chan-sung implores Man-wol to stop. She coldly tells him to run, promising to let him go. To her surprise, Chan-sung refuses and instead tells her to protect him as he walks over and pulls the child into a hug before Mi-ra can touch her. Mi-ra faints and Man-wol orders him to release the child, but it’s too late and she dissolves, absorbing into his chest.

Chan-sung collapses as his vow to stay with Man-wol replays in her ears. A tear trickles down her cheek as Chan-sung faints and his answer to her question about whether he was scared echoes, “I have you.”

Mi-ra wakes up in the back of a taxi. From the front seat, Yoo-na explains that Man-wol ordered her to escort Mi-ra home because she’s drunk. Inside, Man-wol sits on the couch with an unconscious Chan-sung and burns the amusement park photo. She tells his sleeping form that everything will be okay now — he ruined everything.

In his dreams, Man-wol sits with Chung-myung at her drinking spot and tells him this is the last time because she’s leaving. He asks if she’s joining the rebellion and Man-wol says it’s better than dying as a thief. Chung-myung promises to protect her if she comes to the palace and although it gives Man-wol pause, she refuses to abandon her people.

Chung-myung offers to go with her instead, but Man-wol says there’s no way they can be together. Her words cut and Chung-myung releases her, sadly agreeing she’s right. “You were a great drinking buddy,” he says, scooping up one of the jugs on the beach, ” so I’ll miss you.” When Man-wol turns around, he’s gone.

The next morning, she finds the jug hanging from her tree. Realizing Chung-myung must’ve been there, Man-wol asks Yeon-woo if she can meet him one last time before they leave. Yeon-woo asks if she’ll be back. He assures her he’ll be fine either way, urging her to do as she desires, but Man-wol promises to return.

She arrives at her drinking spot, but finds it empty. Brightening when she hears horse hooves, she turns but is met with swords as guards surround her. Princess Song-hwa approaches and sneers, “All your people will die because of you.” At the same time, more guards are slaughtering Man-wol’s band of thieves. Yeon-woo fights but falls back when Chung-myung leaps in front to hold him at sword point. Nooo!!!! Say it isn’t so!

Afterwards, Chung-myung visits Man-wol in the dungeon. He coldly thanks her for leading him to the criminals and offers to spare her for her help. She vows to kill him and Chung-myung says that to do so, she’ll have to stay alive. That evening, the remaining party waits to be hanged. Yeon-woo stands on the platform and stares down at a defeated Man-wol.

When she finally looks up at him, Yeon-woo smiles and a tear trickles down Man-wol’s cheek. The guards kick out the pedestal and Man-wol screams for him, trying to reach the platform as guards yank her back. Yeon-woo dies and afterwards Man-wol is dragged out before Princess Song-hwa who declares that she’ll spare Man-wol since she “aided” in the capture of her comrades. Man-wol can do nothing but glare and Chung-myung looks back with the same restrained expression.

As we know, Man-wol went on to kill the princess and don her wedding robes to wait for Chung-myung. When he walks into the chamber, she yanks the veil away and glares up at him as she reaches for her sword. Chung-myung neither looks surprised, nor moves to draw his own sword as Man-wol lunges for him.

We don’t see what happens and Chan-sung jolts awake in his own bed. Sanchez comes into his room to say Man-wol brought him home and he’s been unconscious for 3 days straight. Additionally, she’d left the Baekdu Mountain painting for him. Alarmed, Chan-sung leaps out of bed and rushes over to the hotel… but only an empty building remains. Recalling that the hotel moves with Man-wol, he realizes she’s gone.

Flashing back to the night of the curse, Man-wol had told the sleeping Chan-sung that the hotel was neither a prison nor a fence to her… merely torture. “It’s not that wonderful… to be tortured together,” she’d whispered sadly as she caressed his cheek, “Goodbye. Chan-sung.”

  
COMMENTS

I’m back, and what an episode to return for! We finally got the answers to some burning questions and yet, some things were left deliciously ambiguous. There’s no doubt in my mind now that Chan-sung is Chung-myung, but now that we have the rest of Man-wol’s story, I can see why she wasn’t happy to see him. From her perspective, their love was extremely painful and the events leading up to the end of their original story painted Chung-myung in a really bad light.

However, I don’t think he betrayed her. At least, not in the way he let her believe. I’d wager that Princess Song-hwa found out about his feelings for Man-wol and used that against him to get what she’d always wanted… him. It’s infuriating that all this sorrow and bloodshed stemmed from petty jealousy over a man, but if her current incarnation is anything to go by, Song-hwa always got her way and the fact that Chung-myung loved a common thief would’ve been a major affront. I think the marriage and Man-wol’s undying hatred was the price he was willing to pay to spare her life. Alas, in trying to save her, Chung-myung hurt her more deeply and inadvertently had a hand in her thousand years of suffering.

With the past seemingly revealed, the focus now shifts to the future. Man-wol’s plan to release her wrath on Mi-ra was foiled and although I feel she’s completely justified after seeing what went down, I’m glad Chan-sung stopped her… and not because he was worried about Mi-ra, but rather Man-wol’s eternal soul. He may not have known the extent of Man-wol’s wounds, but he did know that cursing Mi-ra would only hurt Man-wol more in the end. It was the most satisfying resolution for him to sacrifice himself by putting all his trust in her and it’s bittersweet that in doing so, Man-wol was able to finally let the past go.

That’s not to say her guilt and pain are gone. We’re only at the halfway marker, after all! But I do think she’s taken a big step forward. I’m super excited to see where things go now that Man-wol has released Chan-sung. Should he so choose, he can live a normal life now… but it doesn’t seem like he wants that anymore.

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I still give Chung-myung the benefit of the doubt. Obviously Man-wol will never forgive him for killing Yeon-woo and her people, but I do not believe he betrayed her. The princess likely ordered him to kill all the rebels, and in exchange for Man-wol's life, Chung-myung agreed to marry the princess. He never smiled once while watching the floating lanterns with his bride. I wholeheartedly believe Chung-myung loved Man-wol. He meant it when he asked her, "Then shall I go to you?" "If you wish to kill me, you will have to stay alive" is his way of telling her to live.

I wished Man-wol had waited for Chung-myung to remove her veil so she could stab him up-close, but once he saw the dead soldiers outside the door, he had to have known something was up. I do not believe Chung-myung brought his sword to kill the princess on their wedding night. Man-wol cursing Mi-ra is justifiable now that she is driven by revenge as opposed to jealously of Chan-sung's ex-girlfriend.

Yeon-woo's wistful look as Man-wol rushed off to meet Chung-myung for the last time confirms he loved her too. Originally, I predicted they would be siblings despite the fact that Man-wol never called Yeon-woo "orabeoni." Even Chung-myung called Man-wol "nu-i." (In comparison, Chan-sung seldom calls Sanchez "hyung.") Narratively, it never made sense for Chan-sung to be the reincarnation of Yeon-woo.

The sageuk past has been the best part of this drama since Man-wol opened episode 1, and I'm so sad it's over. Thanks a ton for the recap, @Sunny!

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My theory is that Chung Myung's original motivation was to catch her troupe and that sticking with her and learning about them was an undercover strategy. Over time he began to care about her but then it was too late for him to turn back as the princess already ordered for their capture.
But that doesn't really matter.

Let's talk about Chan Sung's sacrifice! Man, that was a huge leap. I was beginning to get kinda nervous about Man Weol treading that dark, dark path (her dress and voice helped a lot in that department) and he managed to pull her away as well as protecting whats-her-name. The princess was trash. But this is a new person. In a lot of ways, she's innocent. And I'd feel really bad if she was punished for something her past life did 1000 years ago. I don't know much about reincarnation stuff, but that's just me. #dontattackme
When he said he knows Man Weol would protect him... that line makes me swoon every time and I don't know how to explain why that is.

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i still dont think Chan Sung is Chung Myung. Either he's his own person with fated destiny etc or he's a yet to be revealed character from Man Wol's past. I'm basing this off the fact that anyone who has reincarnated from her past has come back with the same face.

I do definitely feel that Chung Myung had his own reasons for doing what he did. Maybe he did it to keep her alive. In his mind, the sacrifice of her group was worth her life but she clearly disagreed.

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Are you basing this off of spoilers episode 9 because as of episode 8, only Princess Song-hwa has been reincarnated with the same face? At this point in time, we do not know whether Mi-ra is a one-off reincarnation.

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right! sorry! i got the eps mixed up in my head

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Reincarnation and same-face always go together in kdrama land. See Legend of the Blue Sea, Rooftop Prince...
... How else would we even know that X is reincarnated Y.

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Chung Myung was a man with a duty: to quench a rebellion. He really liked Man-Wol and her merryman gang and tried to bring them along, but at the end of the day they refused and he was forced to dispatch them as he would do with an enemy. He did so with the lowest body count on his side (very commendable for a commander: to accomplish the mission with the lowest cost on his side) by knowing his enemy and using that knowledge against them. He did the right thing for his Country: in those situations there are so much bigger thing in jeopardy than personal feelings.

Stop romanticizing him, he is a tragic character.

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It was in an early episode, I recall, where Man-wol stated outright that Chan-sung isn't a reincarnation of either of the past guys he's seeing in his dreams. I don't know why viewers aren't taking her at her word, especially since so many viewers had groaned at the prospect of a 'reincarnation' trope for him.

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I agree with you in that chan sung is might not be the reincarnation of chung myung. They give off completely different vibes plus the same face reincarnation theory. And it is further confirmed as even if chung myung sacrificed the thief tribe to save man wol, chan sung's way of saving her is far different and much more noble.

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Yeap. I believe so too that Chan Sung is not Chung Myung from the start they reveal Man Woel past because they not have same face like other reincarnation theme drama/movies.

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When I saw the brief flashback sequence at the end of episode 7, I hypothesized Chung-myung betrayed Man-wol. I really wanted to be right, so I interpreted the reveal in this episode the same way. But reading this recap, I'm starting to be more convinced that Chung-myung might not have betrayed her. I think this truth might be a key turning point for Man-wol's fate in the later episodes.

I don't think Chan-sung is a reincarnation of anybody. If Mi-ra is reincarnated with her face, the universe should reincarnate everyone with the same face, or else the show would have to deliver an explanation about reincarnation rules that makes things more confusing. Also, if Chan-sung is truly just himself, a human man who fell in love with the Man-wol he met in this life, it would allow the show to explore a relationship that isn't dependent on the past. If he really is the reincarnation of Chung-myung, I'm afraid his persistence in protecting Man-wol will just become another reincarnation cliché (because Chung-myung had protected her in the same way in his past life).

This drama gets better every episode. Now that the sageuk past has been fully played out, I'm really hoping HDL will continue going strong.

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I think so too that Chang Sung is not anybody's reincarnation. The most pedestrian explanation is that for Chang-Sung to be Chung-Myung's reincarnation then they would used the same actor (and could use his salary for another part of the budget). The second one is that Chang-Sung is a good person that puts everyone's best interests above his, and he started as a scaredy cat. Not the best material for a captain trying to move up in the ranks.

On a personal note, Man-Wol needs to let go of her ideal "type" (the bad boy captain) to get the noble one (the Hotelier with a heart of gold). She needs someone trusting for her to start giving her generosity and remember that even after her great sin she still has lots of virtues to share. Her great sin condemned her, yes: but didn't change the person she was. She needs the key of his unwavering trust for her closed heart's lock.

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I don’t think Chang Sung is the reincarnation of the Captain either based on a line Man Wol said on episode 10 (subtitle could be wrong though). I think Chang Sung has a very special role in Man Wol’s life/death.

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We totally saw Captain's betrayal coming and regardless of why he did it, it made a big impact on Man-wol because it cost her Yeon-woo, the troupe, and her love.

The sinking of the #SinkingCaptainShip was inevitable but I was ready so it didn't hurt that much.

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We might still have hope, but alas it was inevitable, gahhhh, but the chemistry.

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The hope is when Chan-sung is Captain but I don't want THAT. IT'S A BIG NO FOR ME.

I am now aboard the Chan-sung train but I would be very glad to see Captain on my screen again as himself.

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I saw it coming from the very beginning. They were sworn enemies.

A story with a couple in love from opposing factions?. Romeo and Juliet.

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We all saw that coming but it was hard not to root for them!

And they also remind me of Romeo and Juliet.

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the ship is bound to sink but iu and lee do hyun chemistry is on another level.

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It was really the chemistry that had me going! They really did a great job of portraying a tragic love.

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Several episodes back Chang Sung told Man-wol that when he dreams of her he only sees her in love and even getting married. Man-wol's expression hardly confirmed his assumptions. It rather indicated that he couldn't be further from the truth. That was my first indication of the coming big plot twist in this episode

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Man-wol's reactions to Chan-sung's dreams solidified our doubts that her past is not full of happy moments but a sad one.

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Thanks @sunny .

That was a really nasty trick of MW's, no matter how justified. You really feel she's playing a wicked witch role. Planting torturous psychic scars. I wonder if MW has exercised her ability to plant false memories before. Like with the bellhop about a loving little sister? This episode even raises the possibility some characters might be imaginary!

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How were Man-wol, Chan-sung, Hyun-joong, and Yoo-na able to see Gyeong-ah when she is not a ghost? The doctor can see her because she was created by his mother, but his wife could not see her, and I wasn't clear if the wife could actually hear the record. Hotel del Luna are Ghostbusters, not Imaginary Spirit-busters.

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I think since they can see all kinds of supernatural stuff, not just ghosts, like deities, grim ripper, evil spirits, etc they can see imaginary spirits as well.

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That was like inception with the worse possible intention. I have to give the writers a round of applause for that interesting story.

I don’t think Man Wol had such conception before meeting Gyeong Ah so it’s safe to say the hotel characters aren’t imaginary.

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A wicked witch role!!! =D , now Man-Wol played the witch for Mi-Ra's Snow White!!!, the list of mythology and fairy tales references keeps growing!!!

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To help someone be a better version of themselves just like Chang sun helps Man-wol... now that's love. Now if she would only realize that, she would stop pushing him away!

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An interesting movie: Hancock with Will Smith. The drunkard with superpowers that just caused problems just needed someone able to see his potential to start living up to it.

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This episode was pretty heavy. I have to say I expected the betrayal, but damn I still wasn't ready for it. Chung-myung seemed to genuinely like Man-Wol and Yeonwoo, but he's now the person who sold Man-wol out and got her best friend killed. I really want to believe Chung-myung was forced to spin a tale of deceit for the princess so that Man-wol wouldn't get killed...but still the band of thieves got executed including a person Man-wol cherished. Even if the captain did it to save Man-wol, it still came at a steep price. He completely lost her love and trust in him. I'm totally for the sad backstory of what actually spurred the captain to betray Man-wol and also marry the princess, but still the thousand year of spite she has for him will be hard for her to let go. Honestly I think there's a 50/50 chance that the captain is Chan-sung. There are many moments that make me think he is, but there's something that tells me that Chan-sung could be an entirely new person as well.

I feel like the scene that squeezed my heart the most in this episode was Yeonwoo's death. It was very heartbreaking to see him getting hanged...and right in front of Man-wol too. And even though we finally got the answer to who Man-wol loved romantically between the two, it was still pretty hard to ignore the look he gave Man-wol when she told him she had to see a glimpse of the Chung-myung one last time. He clearly thought of her as more than family, but he let go of those feelings because he knew she didn't look at him that way. It makes me look at his character in a new light. It killed me when he even attempted to comfort her by smiling, even when he was facing imminent death.

Also I'm super glad that Chan-sung stopped Man-wol from becoming a evil spirit. Cause even though Mi-ra's past incarnation caused her so much pain, this girl doesn't remember any of it and has probably reincarnated many times. She isn't the same person from a thousand years ago, and she isn't here to cause Man-wol any more pain. Plus Mi-ra has probably reincarnated into a animal several times because of the bad karma she has. To be able to incarnate into a human probably means she has paid for her bad deeds. & Even if this was a painful encounter, I believe Mago's purpose was to help Man-wol get over her grudge.

Overall this was probably the most emotional episode so far. The ambiguous nature of what happened between Chung-myung and Man-wol was probably done on purpose, but I can't wait to see the scenes of what happened revealed in future episodes! Plus that ost by Punch near the end of the episode was sooo good!! I cannot for the full version to come out!! Thanks for the recap :)

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This was my favorite episode, and I was happy this was the episode with the highest ratings (until episode 10) because personally, the past story line is the most interesting story line in this drama, better than the ghost of the day.

Are you referring to the OST at the very end of the episode? If so, that OST is by Gummy, and the full version is already out. The OST by Punch is Part 1. Hotel del Luna has the best OSTs. My favorite is Taeyeon's. I love the sad OSTs like Heize's and Gummy's. I cannot wait for Paul Kim's OST to be released.

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No, she’s talking about the OST when Chan Sung absorbed the cursed little girl (which also played when Chan Sung witnessed Room 13 disintegrate). — called “Done For Me” by Punch.

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Yeah this was probably my favorite episode as well (until ep 10 haha) since right from the beginning they started with what happened in the past. I have to say what attracted me to this show in the first place was the style of clothing and the action they showcased in the past. Cause the first scene of episode one was wow!! And I agree with you. The past story line is the most interesting story in this drama. Like if the past was an entirely different drama I'd 100% watch it.

And from what I remember, the song I'm referring to is played during the moment Chan-sung hugs the evil spirit/curse. From what I've heard the song is called "Done For Me" by Punch. Apparently Punch sang a another amazing song for Hotel del Luna!! Currently my favorite is the song done by Heize, but I'm pretty sure when the full version of the 2nd song by Punch comes out it'll take the top for me.

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That OST is definitely my favorite so far. So impactful!

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Please what's the song that plays when Chan Seong sees the vision of Man Weol disappearing. All I know is that the song starts with 지울게 (Jiulke meaning I'll erase it). I listen to all of the OST but so far I can't find it.

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Figured it out! It's done for me by Punch. I guess it's not out yet. I really like it though

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It’s infuriating that all this sorrow and bloodshed stemmed from petty jealousy over a man

This is not entirely true. The princess and the bandits are enemies because the are descendants of different kingdoms. If jealousy was the root cause, the princess wouldn’t let Man Wol live to ruin her wedding, or at least keep her locked up until after the wedding.

I also don’t think Chan Sung is Cheong Myeong. Especially now that we’ve seen Mira being the same face as her previous life and Man Wol recognizing her immediately, why would Cheong Myeong’s reappearance go undetected? Man Wol confirmed several times already that she doesn’t feel CM. She even asked Mago, will he show up.

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I sensed Chung Myeong’s betrayal since episode 1 but expected some redemption arc that made Man Wol so conflicted. Now that what happened has been mostly revealed, I don’t think redemption serves any purpose. Whether he loved her or not, I don’t find saving only her any sort of justification. Poor Yeon Woo treated him like a friend too. Being descendant from the same kingdom of MW and YW, he basically turned on his own people to gain/keep the trust of the enemy princess. Maybe he had another agenda, but really, he sacrificed the entire gang. Even if he had the intention to avenge the princess after the fact, lives were lost. Most importantly Yeon Woo died before Man Wol’s eyes and forgiveness is impossible, so why make him more indecisive (in terms of his emotional allegiance).

Chan Sung isn’t anyone’s reincarnation. If CS is CM, not only would MW feel more complex about meeting him, Mago should never expect MW to protect him at all. The whole “sending him to heal her” intention would be null because it’s more like “sending him to test her”. Mago doesn’t seem that confident in Man Wol to show mercy on the princess, so why put another person right under her nose for her to avenge?

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Man Wol’s attempted curse on Mira was not justified. It was an act of evil. Mira already paid for the pain MW endured in the past. In the times of feudal kingdoms, there’s no good or bad guys. The princess’ hands had blood and so did Man Wol. The bandits were killing the princess’ men and stealing her things when they attacked and so there was retaliation. Man Wol got her revenge when she killed the princess. The princess paid for the karma through multiple non-human reincarnations. Mira owes her nothing. If Man Wol hadn’t stubbornly stayed in the same life, her pain and bad karma would have been washed clean in the same manner. Of course I’m sympathetic of Man Wol, but it still doesn’t justify her being a mean spirit to an innocent person. If Mira did her wrong in this life, that’s another story, but she didn’t.

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Still, the questions remain. Why is Manwol so stuck in place, refusing to move on? What is the great sin she committed? What is it she needs to forgive, possibly of herself?

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Well, my guess is survivor’s guilt. When the princess released her, and announced that she aided the captain to achieve something great, they made her an accomplice. The pain goes beyond CM betraying her trust. She probably believes she was the ONLY reason they died.

I suspect she left her body when she got injured, like Chan Sung’s dad. Maybe severely hurt by CM or hurt from fleeing the palace after she killed him. When she met Mago, she was being chased by ghost soldiers. Those soldiers probably died because of her. If they were killed when she was alive, her death and reincarnation will deal with that crime. What if she killed people during her unrealized out of body moment? Would that make her a vengeful spirit or an evil human? I think that’s how she became special.

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I keep thinking this drama makes more sense if Manwol is a spirit, not a live human whose time has stopped.

As for Manwol’s final, great grudge - Given that we haven’t been shown the final part of her attack on the captain, I suspect more treachery from the Hong Sisters.

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Yes, unless they add some time traveling I don’t think a live person can extending time 1300 years. And so undead spirit makes more sense. We’ve seen examples like Chan Sung’s dad and the coma groom. Maybe her stubbornness had to do with not returning to her body. Perhaps so she can continue to see her dead comrades. Being spirit will also explain her seeking the hotel. The drama sort of explained that ghosts and spirits find themselves wandering towards it like their innate gps seeks the hotel. That’s how CS used the hotel chairman.

Also, they keep referring to her as the tree. I think the tree holds her body.

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Other than having super powers she eats and drinks, viewed by humans without effort. I don't think she's dead. She has became a separate more altered being.

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I don't consider Man-wol's curse justified. I mean, the princess did do some nasty things, but Man-wol already slit her throat, and it would seem Mi-ra's soul has already done a lot of penance working back up to human form in the hundreds of years since Man-wol killed her. Mi-ra's self-centered and has some issues with money, but she's otherwise harmless and wasn't the one who hanged all of Man-wol's compatriots. I get why Man-wol would desire vengeance, since she herself is essentially cursed with her memories of everyone's past lives, but there's no question Man-wol was due for a visit from the wrath-y Ma Go aspect had Chan-sung not saved her from herself.

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I agree & also don't. :)
The Princess has moved on, this is a different person and the one against whom Man Wol has a grudge is dead. OR so it seems from a rational standpoint.

In other cultures (err... mine), it is believed that the soul carries karma forward to the next life. The karma is not just bad karma that the princess has to do penance for (which she has done) but also the debt she owes Man-wol for killing her entire clan and loved ones. In killing Mi-ra, Man-wol may have extracted part of that debt, but perhaps not all of it. Man-wol, as a thief, also has her own share of karma to discharge. From Man-wol's pov the princess is evil, but from her people's pov, the princess got rid of a menace? The karmic ties are too strong and too complex. I'm enjoying the unintentional exploration of ideas from my own culture, here. Hahaha

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@greenfields , we are on the same boat. Man-Wol's tragedy just stemmed from a period of war. Her people were thieves and therefore enemies of the State, and on top of that they planned to join the rebellion. Chung-Myung tried to persuade them to join his side, so he did his best to avoid tragedy.

But at the end of the day he did what had to be done. There were greater things than feelings involved.

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"Chung-Myung tried to persuade them to join his side, so he did his best to avoid tragedy."

He did no such thing. He offered her specifically a way out (as what? his mistress? since there's no way he could have dumped the princess for her), as long as she agreed to abandon her crew.

And I don't get why all this alleged historic context - which comes from a synopsis that may or not be accurate and not the actual drama - should be enough to justify that he used her love for him to kill everyone.

If he actually wanted to save them, he could have told her that the authorities are on to them and that if they join the rebel forces they will be killed. And that when it comes to that point he will be duty-bound to act as the captain of the guard, friendship or not. He could have showed some honor. He did no such thing.

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Well, then we could probably agree on disagreeing, and that is a good thing. There is not an easy answer to this and to be honest, our debate could take a big part of a semester on an Ethics course. But to let go of such a debate just out of political correctness would be a pity.

Thanks @charlieblue17 and hope to read you soon! =)

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But on a final note, @charlieblue17 , let me ask you a question: where should Chung-Myung's ultimate loyalty lie, in his country, his comrades and his duty?, or should it lie with Man-Wol and probably her people?.

And remember, there could be deadly consequences on that decision if you were him!

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@fgb4877 I never questioned his duty. I am not saying that the captain of the guard should not do his job. It would be perfectly ok if he won in a fair fight.

I am just saying that the way he won was without honor.

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... And I agree that he fulfilled his role as captain and that he won... without honor!!! ;) .

See, at the end of the day we think the same!

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I do not question Chung-Myung's duty or even his intention. It's his approach I rather dissent. What I think would be noble for him to do is to declare that if she and her troop don't give up, they'd have to be enemies. Let her choose her own way.

I honestly believe that at first when he was captured as a hostage by Man-Wol, he was already plotting the plan to use her. But getting to know her did make him swayed and that's when he came up with another plan to sacrifice every one just to let her live (miserably).

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I think Chung myung only invited her to join him, not even yeon woo. And she refused. I still think we have to wait whether to see if he was duty bound or did all this for his personal gain.

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I'm probably the only one who suspects even that offer. Let me come with you - here he wants her to lead him to her tribe, reveal their location. Come with me - he'll hold her hostage and lure them into a trap. Since the tribe was leaving, this was his last attempt to locate them, the patient / long game, up. The bottle he left at the tree that finally drew her away from the tribe - that was clearly a ruse. So I suspect everything else too.

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Well, if she was the boss of the thieves then the most logical approach would be to ask her first, then let her speak to her own people.

One of the things I love so much of this Drama (so far) is that it encourages multiple lectures and interpretations of the events. I sparred @charlieblue17 about this one, and this has resulted on a fantastic discussion on ethics (BTW, thanks Charlie for not letting me go easily!!! ;) ). I am assuming the best intentions coming from Chung-Myung in this discussion since it makes it RELEVANT. If he is simply a bad person using a gold opportunity to destroy his enemies, marry the Princess and climb in the social ladder THEN everything discussed here is irrelevant and we lose a golden opportunity of discussing on ethics.

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I think think the curse was meant to be seen as unequivocally evil, an act sufficiently bad to doom Man-wol's soul for eternity if she carried it out. That's why Chang Sung 'took the bullet', so to speak. To save Man-wol's soul. The writers didn't make present day Mi-ra 'evil', just annoying enough to fend off 'second lead syndrome' couple shipping.

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I’m quite surprised with how well they constructed this “antagonist”.

The writers gave the Princess a balanced neutrality that allows Man Wol’s murder to be taken either direction — whether she deserves punishment or not.

Even better is Mira’s (dis)likability, that Chan Sung dating her was understandable, dumping her was understandable, still treating her as a friend is understandable.

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I think in the talk about Mira’s grandmother giving her the bracelet, there was mention of Mira still carrying bad karma/karmic debt. But, I think this drama will go on the track of Manwol letting go of her grudges rather than indulging in supernatural vengeance. Although a drama that ends with Manwol letting go of her constraints and acting on a millennium’s worth of repressed anger and battling with the goddesses would be interesting, it would be a different drama -one I’d of course watch!

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I'm still not convinced Chung-myung is Chan-sung. Man-wol never felt anything when she touched Chan-sung's heart.

Currently watching ep 10, this show is fantastic 🥰🥰🥰

Btw guys go follow fullmoon.long on Instagram, you won't regret it hehe

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I'm probably the only one who doesn't ship Man wol with anyone. She alone is so awesome & fabulous. I'd like for her to find peace & pass on or something. I know it won't happen though.

Anyway, the past was sad. The betrayal may be expected but it was still sad to see it happen.

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Well, as awesome as she is, she is also lonely, though. We can clearly see she needs love either now or thoudsand years ago.

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That is the issue here. I didn't have the time to elaborate my comment too much, I was thinking about this; she does need love, but does it have to be romantic? How about a very good friend or companion though? Like the past manager. Although yes he couldn't bring a change but i just wish that currently the people around her help her change her heart which has been stagnant for so long.

But ofc it's gonna be a romantic love ...

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If it was just any platonic love she wants, she wouldnt be swayed this much. With both Chung-Myung and Chan-Sung, you can see she obviuosly view them romantically. It's not what 'we' want for her that matters, it' what 'she' really needs.

But I doubt how the writer will resolve the huge age gap between our leads though.

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You are the first and only person to mention the uncomfortable age gap and I really think it should be addressed in the show. But it won't. The way I'm rationalising this is that Man-wol clearly seems mentally trapped in her early 20s as.well. But I'm aware it's just rationalising.

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I'm normally okay with the age gaps in supernatural fantasy, except when the human is in high school. Twilight, Goblin, and 50, 000 others - why can't you make your heroines college students and stop making us feel uncomfortable? Teenagers don't have to read about teenAgers if that's the market.

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My take is different. Love is such a rare gift that putting additional conditions not relating to the quality of the relationship is asking too much of petty details, not of the core that is the relationship at the end of the day.

A relationship between two mature and consenting adults that try to share the best in them is a thing of beauty.

Limiting love in such a way would be a waste.

But at the end of the day, I think the mature one is the 30 years old coping with the tantrums and changing the diapers of the 1,350+ year old lady.

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I don't care about age gaps, only about maturity gaps. (Goblin falling in love with a teenager made it a complete no go for me for that reason).

Half the time CS looks more mature and more responsible than MW; her having lived 1300y or so longer than him makes no practical difference to their relationship. I'd say her clock stopped emotionally as well as physically all those years ago. She's still more or less a 20y old at heart, even if one with 1k+y of shopping experience.

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The age gap I mentioned doesnt literally mean how old those two are apart. This is one supernatural fantasy drama, of course those 1000 years could mean nothing. What I meant was that she has been around for a thousands years and seemingly wants to ultimately be free. How would one (the writer) persuade her to live on? And in what fashion?

I couldnt help comparing this to Goblin. I feel so sad for Kim Shin because he was trying so hard to die but was forced to continue living painfully for love.

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@joosushin

more about CS and MW and their age gap: MW does not particularly want to die, but she has expressed a desire to be free of her job/the tree/her punishment.

When MG said that "her time would flow again" I took that to mean that after her release she would be a 20y human, free to grow old with CS if she so choses.

MW and CS seem to think that she would simply die at that point and reincarnate; so the only way for them to be together would be in a next lifetime (which explains his insistence that she behaves nicely and does not return as a dog/pig)...

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Having them grow old and die together when the right time comes would be a perfect ending. The question is how. How would they formulate the story to reach that point? At this point, I'm only trusting the writers as they've been showing that they set reasonable rules for all events. Hopefully, this will also have a solid rationale behind the supposed (and much anticipated) happy ending for our couple.

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Didn't expect so many replies 😅

Well the story is headed in that direction that you are pointing but I'm still certain that other kinds of love can move a person too.
I pointed it out in the first place because dramas mostly lead to the romantic love, this show had that space for a different way but it took the same route too.

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Well, I agree and also disagree. She is fabulous but also isolated. She needs soemone to see the best in her for her to be forced to become her best persona, like IU's character in My Ajusshi. That is Chang-Sung.

Personally I think that love is a rare gift and it can come in all different packages, it can be your best friend who nags at you when you make mistakes to correct them, it can be the professor that guides you, the parents that gave up their personal and social lives to help you become yourself. Romantic love with a nurturing and noble person is a gift.

So if in top of that personal growth we get also a romantic relationship, that would be the cherry in the top of the ice cream.

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If I'm shipping her with anyone its with Grim Reaper.

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i'm with you on that. Lol, i love all Kdrama grim reapers :)

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That was a cheeky one... I loved it!!! =D .

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one thing i like a lot about hotel del luna is that the past scenes are kept short and to the point which makes me curious and want to know more about what will happen in those scenes, especially in this episode where they got to the captain’s betrayal and man wol’s capture so that we’re given more context to her anger towards mi-ra

this episode is probably one of my favourites alongside episode 6 and the entire amusement park scene with man-wol, mi-ra, and chan-sung was filmed beautifully, hat’s off to this director

also fingers crossed we get to see an epic fight scene between man-wol and the captain in all its blood and goriness

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Yes, I cried for him. Even in his last moment, he just smiled knowing it will make ManWol a peace of mind to continue living. What a friend.

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Yes, that was the beauty of Yeon-Woo: Agape, the love that gives so much that consumes you.

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That was one convoluted setting to place a curse, I was mostly confused by this scene, and thought that pace wise it was one of the weak episodes.

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Snow White with Man-Wol as the witch and the prince eating the poisoned apple to protect a not so white Snow White and thus avoiding the Witch to commit a sin?. That is a very twisted but oddly romantic and lovable take on the fairy tale ;) .

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I think we don't know all of the story about Chung-myung, who enters in his wife's room with a sword? Either we want to kill her either he knew for Man Weol but it was pretty calm around.

I really hoped until the end that CS could stop MW by convincing her and not by taking the "hit".

I don't agree with CS being the reincarnation of Chung-myung. I mean he could be the reincarnation helping her to forgive herself but I don't find the character similar at all.

Poor CS, he's sick and MW found time to change her clothes and her nails ! :D

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Lol that last line.

From the bts, IU asked Jingoo which nail color to use but the poor guy really passed out on the couch.

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It was cute! I like the BTS scenes :)

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The classic noble idiocy has entered the plot. Only this time it's gender-reversed (YES!) and makes a lot more sense because Chan Sung could literally die from Man Wol's wrath.

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I liked this episode very much. Yeon woo's death crushed me. I literally cried when he was smiling minutes before being hanged. Such a sweet guy.

I don't think chung sung is chung myung. He is a whole different character. He might have been existed in the past plot but not have been introduced yet imo. Or he can be someone totally irrelevant to the past scenario. Anyways if he was someone from the past he is either never met man weol in the past or they only had a small encounter and she cannot remember him.

Chung sung is doing his job really well be stopping man weol feom doing anything that can harm her soul any further. I really liked jin goos outfit here. The more casual clothes suits him more. And he looked extra handaome no wonder that gyung ah wanted him to be Min. 😅

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At this piont I'm officially dislike Mi-Ra. Not because she was a cruel princess in her past life and cause Man-Wol a thousand year of pain, but she has been recarnate into this selfish, no-manner girl and even a thief (lent first, ask later is considered stealing!). And for god sake she is a medical doctor, come on her presence annoy me to the max.

Someone mention in previous episode that Man-Wol might be hanging around this long coz she needs forgiveness. But I must add that she might need to forgive those who wronged her too in order to pass on. We can see she still holds those grudges tightly and if Chan-Subg didnt get in the way, she wouldnt hesitate to collect her debts. The Mago(s) know this and interfere. I wonder what makes her so special that makes god(s) treat her differently from other revengeful/evil spirits.

Chung-Myung is still the the shade for me, dont really know his intention as he never let it really showed. Though he might plan to help Man-Wol, his implementation lead to this whole tragic.

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I asked the same question elsewhere - what makes MW so special that MG has gone out of the way to tie her to the hotel and hope to save her from becoming an evil spirit. Such an interesting question.

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Dear @growingbeautifully , my take is that she actively looked the place to pay her due. She was not a coward hiding her bad deeds like the Peeping Tom guy, but someone that hurt her own people and still tried to make amends, even if it could cost her her life to get to the Moon Inn. She had a backbone and a conscience, so she could be redeemed.

She had potential, and was the right person at the right place.

Of course, I'd love to read your take (or other Beanies) on it ;)

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That's as good a reason as any! Thanks @fgb4877.

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I have to go re-watch ep1. As far as I remember she was trying find the moon inn where spirit are resting before leaving to the other world but I didnt remember if she mentioned why she wanted to be there. Your theory sounds interesting though. I also curious if Chan-Sung was picked for the task by Mago just only because of the good deed he did (returning the dropped money to its owner) when he first met her or is there's any other reason behind it.

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Chang-Sung's past lives are veiled from us, but as a child he was like the proverbial lotus being pure even if he stemmed out of mud: he was a noble, honest person even if his father was a thief.

He also did his best to reform his father, and asked no costly gift from him (that could compel him to steal) but a simple flower he coud pick for free, which also showed both his wise for asking something literally on his father's reach without getting into trouble, compassion for his father's tendencies and understanding of his motivations - because as a father, you would like to give the world to your children - and it would be wrong for him to allienate his father's nurturing side.

He also had the strenght of character to face his father but the subtleness to do so in a sweet but compelling way. He also knew that the money falling from the couple could not be technically robbery but wasn't earned by them and knew that this couple could need it (if not, why would they bring more money than needed with them?). He had a conscience and could calibrate acts and consequences.

Those few moments spend in Chang-Sung's childhood sets his character quite well.

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A related question is how did she know of the Guest House of the Moon in the first place? The answer to that can drive whole new worlds of speculation.

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Well, in the old days, those kinds of myths were floating around in the air. She probably heard it from someone. I'm speculating that she was trying to find it in order see Yeon-Woo or maybe Chung-Myung one last time or even trying to follow them to the other world. Her parting with Yeon-Woo were tragic, they didnt even get to say good-bye.

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That would be true if the place existed prior to MW looking for it. In one interpretation, the Guest House of the Moon was built just for Manwol - we saw it being built in episode 1, and why the ghost staff believe the place will cease to exist when MW moves on.

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I doubt that there would be only 'one' moon inn in this entire universe. If so, where would all the souls be before passing onto the other world? how would they operate the system before Man-Wol taking part in the process? This particular (del luna) one was probably exclusive to Man-Wol but surely there must be ones before and ones after it, right? My imagination is running wild, my apologies.

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My *impressions* is that it is unique rather than standard operations. Based on the Mago scenes to date, Mago 1 did something special for MW (we don’t know why), but Mago 4 would rather have the whole idea of a rest stop go away... sounded (my take only) like a one off rather than something that’s been in place for all human time. Perhaps an experiment by less than all knowing gods to see if such a place would help save souls or cause more harm?

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the way I see it, Man-Wol is more of a successor who inherits the moon inn rather than the reason it's got created. Just my 2 cents though.

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When finding out the whole truth about the past what I most wanted was for CS to hug MW… tightly. for a very long time. But when holding that curse-child, he hugged the rawest and angriest and most wounded part of her instead … and now I’m crying all over again

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Yep, in another site they comment on Man-Wol letting Chang-Sung go before or after doing something very disturbing. They also link Man-Wol to Diana. My Actaeon (the guy who saw Diana naked and was transformed into a stag) take on this is that she wants to protect Chang-Sung from her internal ugliness, which is a kind of nudity (not of the body but of the soul). But unlike Diana who curses Actaeon for peeping her, she cares for Chang-Sung and doesn't want him to get hurt.

It is a deconstruction of the myth.

Dear @growingbeautifully and @barbrey , if you like, you are more than welcome to put your 2 cents or 2 US$ if you want to ;) .

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Opinion inflated? Lol

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@geliguolu , is not that I think they are the non-plus-ultra nor tha I am an expert in mythology, far from it. Is just that we had been following a similar opinion in these chapters and I'd like to hear their take, since I don't have such a background in comparative mythology and I find it fascinating.

What is your take? (Please Beanies, be welcome!!!)

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Unfortunately I have nothing to add re comparative mythology. I only have comparative dramas. XD

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@geliguolu , good enough!!! =) , and probably better for getting the Meta jokes ;)

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@fgb4877 Heheheh! Thanks for tagging me. I do not know the mythology of Diana, but taking show as is, with the mythology set up by the Hong Sisters, I can understand that MW honoured her promise to protect CS as best she could after the curse.

She realised that her stubbornness and inability to let go of her grudge(s) would hurt CS who would always put himself in the way of saving her, even if it meant self-sacrifice. As long as CS was with her or knew where she was, he'd be back to 'take care' of her. The only way to protect him was to separate herself from him and get him to not be able to see the hotel and ghosts.

Also as @packmule did say, she chose to save him rather than continue with her attack on Mi Ra. She packed Mi Ra off safely without a memory of what had transpired and ensured that CS recovered after the long sleep, instead of remaining comatose after absorbing the curse.

So I don't see it as keeping CS from seeing her ugliness or being ashamed that he did. She knew all along that if he could see into her memories, he'd know her 'evil' and she had been resigned to this. What non-plussed her was that regardless of what he saw (well he mainly saw her in love...), and her warnings to him about herself, and her attempts to release him, he still stood firm beside her. She does not yet know, I think, that CS is also following the request of Ma Go to take care of MW.

Nevertheless, because of the person that he is, once he became aware of how MG4 could destroy the soul like in the case of Ghost of Rm 13, CS would never leave MW entirely un-monitored.

So I agree that the only way for MW to care for CS and not let him get hurt was to run and hide from him, however I feel it was not out of the deconstruction of the Diana myth so much, as a logical step from the character set up so far.

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"So I agree that the only way for MW to care for CS and not let him get hurt was to run and hide from him, however I feel it was not out of the deconstruction of the Diana myth so much, as a logical step from the character set up so far".

Yes, she had free reign to do whatever she liked for so long (and she is a spoiled brat) that just the thought of behaving properly will not cross her mind. She needs a "Pepe Grillo" (Jiminy the Cricket) to serve as her conscience. Lord Buddha the MaGos really like her.

On the other hand, while both hypothesis are interesting, let me give another one (that just popped in my mind): that Chang-Sung has seen Man-Wol doing all this magical things around him and that puts him in the perilous situation of overestimating Man-Wol's abilities. She knows her own limitations and is afraid he could get in a situation where she could be powerless to save him. Sofor her the safest bet is to let him go.

It is interesting that so far this Drama has been so well written that even the "Noble Idiocy" trope is nicely done.

Thanks and hope to read you soon!!!

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Good hypothesis! Catch ya later!

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Chang-Sung literally embraced the worst part of her and still kept loving her.

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I’m still not sure wether Chan-sung is Chung-muyng reincarnated or not. I could see it goes either direction. If he is Chung-muyng’s reincarnation, it would make sense for him to be by Man-wol’s side and protect her to make up for the tragedies in their past lives. (I do think Chung-myung didn’t set out to kill Man-wol’s friends on purpose, but was forced into it by the Princess.) If Chan-sung is a different character altogether, I wonder what his connection to Man-wol is.

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I personally still don't think that chan sung is a reincarnation of anyone in the past. I feel like he's just that one guy that the gods decided to choose. And as for what happened in the past I wouldn't say that chung myung betrayed her but rather, I like to think that he was never really with man wol by accident in the first place and that he planned it all along and it was just by chance that he fell in love with man wol but really he had no choice in what he did.

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Why does anyone like Man Wol? I know she has a thing for nails, a strange wardrobe and a lot of bright lipsticks. I know some people might find her tantrums amusing or charming but if we forget all that, she does a lot of terrible things. I feel like HDL is my Warm & Cozy reversed, I loved the lead and quite liked the show but everybody thought the guy was a jerk and hated it.

How can anyone possibly understand her trying to curse Mira like that? First of all, she already got her revenge, besides this is not the princess! She knows she has had many lives, in this universe I'm guessing people evolve in each life, she is someone else and MW knows this. For sake of lazy plot and bad writing she has the exact same face, as so many reincarnation stories like to do, but apart from that, there is nothing except being the same soul, MW doesn't even know she has committed any sins in this life and it would have been so much better if she knew, it would have made some sense.

I'll probably forget some other things but she also chose Chan Seong on a whim, not knowing if he was a good candidate or not, allowed the bride a chance to kill Sanchez and her real boyfriend for no reason, let ghost of 13 remain locked in closet instead of trying to console her and let the staff try to make Chan Seong go mad, yes, she saved him later, doesn't matter, she did agree first.

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I don’t particularly like her as a character but she is definitely interesting to watch. Hong Sisters do this all the time — Master’s Sun, Hwayugi, Big, My Girl leads range from purely selfish to outright satanic. They cast the most beloved actors so the delusional audience will automatically come up with a sympathetic theoretical backstory right from the start. Because of the actor, any bit of reason to do bad gets glorified to the point the victims are blamed for it. Or if they can’t come up with a reason, ambiguity gives the audience blankness to draw it up. Works every time.

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I understand what you are saying, and mostly I agree. I used to like these guys! I did know they were doing maybe bad things but they had some logic behind it, the thing with MW is she doesn't have that. There is no explanation for her actions, one of the HS strong qualities for me is exactly that they were almost the only writers that came up with leads capable of being human, having a dark side that allowed them to behave badly but still be charming. The only one I'd describe as satanic is MW though, ok maybe Monkey King got close ehehheh.

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I really didn’t see better logic with the previous characters — just kdrama logic.

Was the previous characters really charming the people they met in the drama? I didn’t think so. It was always about that special one who could see something different.

Chan Sung really didn’t like Man Wol at the beginning. A lot about her still isn’t charming to him, as he calls her out repeatedly. His affection only came from the dreams. If not seeing her as “just a woman in love” he would have fought tooth and nail to breach that contract.

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Chan-Sung is a pure soul. He wants to protect everyone if it's not beyond his ability. He has compassion for many ghosts he encounters. Seeing her as 'a woman in love' (indicating how good spirit she was/could be as compared to the evil one she almost becomes) might be one of the reasons he doesn't leave. But getting to know Man-Wol, her true self, all her ridiculous&absurd camouflages she's wearing and also her tragic past is why he's so stubborn to leave right now.

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For the past, we can't judge because we don't have all the elements. We don't know for sure what did the Princess. I agree that MW is unfair with Mira but I can understand why. In 1000 years, MW didn't forget what happened, she still lives in the past like it was yesterday. It was why Mago sent CS in the Hotel to help her to move on.
She chose CS but she saved his father. It's fair for him but at least he could live with his father changed in a good person.

For the hotel, she gives to the ghosts a place to rest but it's all. She doesn't have to help them more.

I don't think she's a bad person deep down but all the past events hurt her. I think it's CS wants to help her becaus he saw how she could be.

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I don't judge her to be bad in her past, she behave as someone would in that time.
It's her present I don't get or agree. She is still in her past but she had to know MiRa was not the same person.
I understood the hotel had to console the guests? If she won't do the job she is a nuisance, and the gods would not let her stay in the way of such an important place.

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Hmmm... The different ways in which different people regard MW's actions may have something to do with how one thinks about reincarnation. There is a strange dichotomy there: on one side, MR is the same soul who is still paying for her old actions via karma, but also an entirely new person with no recollection of her past evil. MaGo wants MW to see MR as a new person, with all her past blame left in charge of the gods; but to MW the soul and sin continuity is what matters more...

I personally would like her to let go of her grudge -for her own sake- but I can still understand her position. I would not call her a good person, but she is not completely bad either: she has her own code of ethics that she adheres to, one that puts loyalty and family above all else. And (again, in my view) it's her guilt for inadvertently causing the death of her people and not being able to forgive herself for it that has her frozen in place for more than a millennium (as opposed to her hate towards MR and CM).

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Of course, she's still stuck in her past. That's why she's still around, not being able to pass on. It's like she has an unfinished business to take care of, either it's getting other's forgiveness for her or the other way around. She is not a great person but she's been through a lot. Though that doesnt justify a lot of her actions, it's enough for some of us to root for her in the hope that she will be able to right her wrong and finally find peace.

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First, Man weol still cannot let go of her grudge, which is why she is still stuck in the hotel. Mira might have moved on but MW still has not. MW is not a forgiving person by nature which is why she ended up killing all those people in the first place. Mago sent chung sung to her to make way for her to move on. Everyone else in the hotel including her staff, and previous human managers were afraid of her because of her powers and temper. But chung is the only one who challenges her. And it seems mira was not a human for a long time and only this time got reincarnated as a human. Either their paths are destined to be crossed at some point and that's why Mago sent chung sung, or mago wanted to test MW and help her as well so sent CS who would bring MR to her and would also help her to go through with it without harming MR.

Secondly it is Mago who sent CS. MW was anyway aware of her then manager was getting old. CS's father wanted his life spared. He was already in his way to afterlife so getting his son's life in his place is like a trade that happens in many fairy tales. And also she doesn't need much talent in her managers to run her hotel. Being able to handle ghosts and some paperwork is enough for her. CS is actually overqualified for his current job.

Sanchez would not die by marrying the ghost as he is a full human. Even Mago 3 said going through the marriage will be the safest for him. But CS was worried as sanchez was already scared by seeing the ghost bride and would not be able to go through with the wedding without being traumatised. The bride did not want to kill her bf. Otherwise she would asked for her bf in the first place. Man weol played a dangerous game by bringing the bf, i think she knew the bride would not marry this man since she knows he would die if she married him. (as he was in his spirit form his actual body was in the hospital due to the coma.)

The room 13 ghost was placed in the hotel by the grim reaper and 1st Mago as she caused some trouble in the real world. She had no intention of being consoled as she ran away the first chance she got.

Why they wanted to go chung sung mad was well explained. They did not want to leave in world but CS is making it happen. They are ghosts after all. MW agreed at first of course because of her vile side but eventually her good side took over and she saved him.

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Yes, but she got her revenge, so part of what I'm saying is the reason she can't let go of her grudge is the thing that makes her evil.

Thanks for the explanations about ghost in 13 and the bride ghost, that makes her actions less terrible.
I still think the manager should be someone with interest in consoling people so a priest like the first candidate would have been more suitable and CS is great because he is compassionate but she did not know that when she chose him.

The reason staff wanted him to go mad was indeed explained but I felt there was no need, first because we don't know if MW leaving will mean the staff has to go too, the hotel has changed owners before, second because they could have simply fired him and made him forget which did happen after this episode. They had a perfect way to leave him and instead chose to make him mad and she allowed it.

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She is not completely good, but she is not that evil as well. She killed the princess but we are yet to see what happened with chung myung. So we are not sure if she got her revenge as she wanted. Anyways she took care of the hotel really well (although taking money from rich guests for special services 😅) , the more you look after the hotel the more it gets beautiful or its funds from heaven. The hotel is in this state indeed because she was a good owner even though she is cold from outside. Being angry with Mira still is unreasonable, which was implied in the drama as well. She did plot to make mira miserable. But at the end she let her go as well. She could have harmed Mira when chung sung is unconscious but she sent her home instaed. She is a complex character imo. Which is why people like her.

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i don't think she cared if chung sung is kind or not. Any human manager would treat ghosts kindly lol. Because they are afraid of them 😅. Ghosts are not some people to play with they can abviously do harm to a human like how chung sung went through the air when an angry ghost merely pushed him. The priest guy simply didn't want to come. She can't go around giving people the ability to see ghosts as well. To the three guys she gave the ability she tried her best to make them come. She even went to space to bring one guy haha.

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I think you have a big idea about how a person can be not that evil. It's subjective so we can all think very differently. She killed the princess so that should be revenge enough, whatever happened to the guy doesn't matter for her feelings towards the new MiRa. She did not let her go, CS simply stopped her and she decided to not continue because she was busy saving him from herself.

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I think she just has good and bad sides like we all are. 😊

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I've seen this same topic when discussing American shows. Audiences often get confused by characters (especially female characters) that aren't designed to be 'likable'. One show creator said she doesn't care is her main character is 'liked' as long as she's 'understood'. Hye-ran in 'Misty' was hardly the most likable person on TV.

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That's not really what I said. I can like plenty of unlikable characters male or female as long as I understand them. I liked Dokko Jin in Greatest Love, I liked the guy in Master's Sun, the jerk in Warm & Cozy, absolutely adored the FL in My Girl, I even liked Monkey King. I even liked IU's FL in My Ahjussi and she was a thief and a blackmailer. I'm not confused, I'm surprised people find excuses for her actions and a way to like her even if she is evil.

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If Chan-sung is Chung-myung I'll be mad because they could've just used the other actor as the main lead and this would've been a much better drama!

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While I agree Lee Do-hyun has way more chemistry with IU than Yeo Jin-gu, and thus this would've been a much better drama, but if they had just used Lee Do-hyun as the main lead, then we would have no Reply-esque who's the husband guessing game for which character Chan-sung is the reincarnation of.

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The Yeo Jin-Gu ajumma fan in me would scream frantically that 'Nooooo, our Jin-Gu is super good looking' hahaha. Plus his acting skill & screen presence & chemistry adds another whole new level to this drama. Lee Do-Hyun is still a newbie, he needs to build up his resume. He's quite pleasant to watch. Hope his performance in this drama will pave his way to the lead role one day.

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I would have to agree about LDH. I think he has charisma which is something I never felt in YJG acting in this drama. I was instantly attracted to CM while I still need to convince myself to like CS. It could be the writing buy considering how CM is more 1D than CS I believe the actor is also responsible for it.

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I do not agree. Can't imagine anyone else as chung sung other than Jin goo. I love their chemistry and funny bickering. CM was a charmer but he was kind of forcing himself on man weol. He is arrogant and did not give the respect MW deserve as his love interest?!

CS in the other hand more noble, mature and the more husband material type of guy. It is not easy and also not ethical to have a relationship woth your boss so i think that is why the blooming of romance is slow and i like it.

Fast attractions never worked for man weol, where yeon woo could have been the better choice for her, she had feelings for CM and got betrayed by him.

CM is handsome, appealing and the kind of bad boy type of guy that ladies get excited about.
But CS is the much safer choice for ladies if they don't want to get betrayed and want be better versions of themselves.

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I always found CM kind of shady... too smooth, too full of himself -- the kind of boy one falls in love with quickly only to get one's heart broken just as fast; also personally I don't find him that good looking either... (it's the a weak chin... paired with the rubbish character). But basically I just can't ever like the guy

CS is the very opposite (in physique and temperament): he is slightly awkward in his body, not willowy and natural moving as CM, and maybe not as pretty in the common sense (although his facial features are more striking) also not al all smooth when it comes to women... but he is just a really good guy. And maybe it's my age and stage in life, but I find that much more attractive.

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Yes me too. You should never go for looks alone. Some says otherwise but I find jin goo very attractive and his acting is attractive as well. I like the manly aura he is giving. When he has to act more cute he kind of looks awkward (reunited worlds, absolute boyfriend.) he is best when he plays much more mature characters like in crowned clown, circle, hawayi and hotel del luna. I have seen complains that he is not handsome enough. But i feel those comments are really shallow. I think jin goo has a unique face. Guy acting as CM sure is handsome but he has rather a comman face that we see in many K drama actors.

As for now between CM and CS. CS is the best choice for any girl.
If CM let the princess die purposely, he not only betrayed man weol but also he betrayed the princess as well. At least for now he seems bad news for women haha. Idk if it will change in the upcoming episodes. But for now its how i feel.

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Yeah CM seemed like a player. He knew too much about how love affects our perceptions, as if he had been studying it!

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For the short screen time that he appeared, I frankly doubt he can sustain the criticism to his acting, especially up against IU as a lead. His face is pleasant to the eyes and that’s all he really has to show at the moment.

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Acting wise CM guy did fine. He is just not really the safe type to date. The character i mean not the actor. He is probably one of the sweetest guys in real life.

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Thanks Sunny. The show gets better and better.

I like how CS is inadvertently fulfilling the role and the hopes of Ma Go 1 in protecting MW, just by being his good, honest self. He's unrecognisable from himself in Ep 1 and 2 when he preferred to run away to protect himself.

Now he has thrown himself into MW's protection and deliberately embraces her curse in order to save her. 'No greater love hath a man...."

MW has come to care enough for CS that she is willing to separate herself from him, even though it saddens her. A rare occurrence of self-sacrifice on her part! That should actually call for more flowers to start budding on her tree!

Seeing more of what Man Wol can do, I continue to question what Ma Go has made of her. MW seems to be a minor almost-deity, able to get into virtual rooms, create false realities and attack with curses. Nothing will stop her vengeance except CS, and in the future if she tries to do worse, the only thing that will stop her will be because she has to keep CS safe.

What a tough job MG1 has given CS for all his life. Starting from when he was a child, she had already ear marked him as the one who'd save MW. What a risky thing to assign to a then child, when MW was always unpredictable and self-centred.

I wish show would tell us what makes MW so special to MG that so much effort has been put into ensuring she does not become an evil spirit.

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And as I wrote on bitchesoverdramas, that curse already hit him. Mira was supposed to feel her family never wanted her to be born and abandoned her. CS absorbed the curse and a few days later meets his ostensible mother who never wanted him to be born and abandoned him.

The book Existence and Time (with photos of CS and family mirroring Mira and family) gives us a clue: Mom sprang into existence in the past -in time - as well when CS absorbed that curse. No wonder MW wants to get rid of her asap.

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Oh, what an interesting take!

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Thanks! It only just hit me. The set up is in this episode but the parallel happens two episodes later.

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Wow that theory is really interesting!!

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Over at Bitches Over Dramas, we're discussing similar interesting parallels and clues linking different bits of episodes. There's so much foreshadowing and then what was hinted comes to pass in a way that is both clear and yet reversed or in a mirror image way. Very, very interesting.

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But Man Weol burnt the picture the curse was tied to... she destroyed the curse once she knew CS had accepted it, and that's why she left cos she didn't want him to get hurt by doing something similar again...

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Exactly, she would have never left if the curse was still on him. People come up nice theories to make the drama be more logical or incredibly complex when it isn't, while ignoring basic facts the story has told.

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