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Open Thread #620

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Happy Friday beanies!!!!! I hope everyone is staying safe wherever you are - with such crazy weather everywhere.
Looking forward to a weekend where I can get out and plant some bulbs in my garden then get ready to watch the final season of the Carrot Boy and his Magic Horse.

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@stpauligurl,

I rewatched ARTHDAL CHRONICLES last weekend to refresh my memory before part 3 airs. Marathoning it made it much easier to keep track of events. It also showed how much wheel-spinning went on. Show could have chopped out an episode's worth of gratuitous Arthdalian violence and we'd have been none the wiser. It was frustrating as heck to finally see the plot moving, only to have to cool my heels for 2 months to see the reaction to Tan-ya's Annie Oakley slingshot performance. I can't wait to see the look on the brothers' faces when they finally meet.

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@pakalanapikake when is ARTHDAL resuming?

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Hi, @martinjsimwaba!

ARTHDAL CHRONICLES airs on Sat-Sun on tvN -- and resumes tomorrow, Sept. 7 for those of us in the USA. It's also "airing" with English subtitles on Netflix. ;-)

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@pakalanapikake I did think about marathoning the first 12 episodes, but wasn't sure I could take it. Right now I want to marathon the first season of Sacred Games on Netflix but know I'll get so sucked in and lose my weekend...
augggghhhhh too many shows, not enough time!

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I am suck in with Carnival Row due to Orlando Bloom.

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Haven't seen Orlando Bloom in so long. What is this show? (or dare I ask?)

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All, I know it is from the book. It tells how a fairy and man fell in love but the war separate them apart. She thinks he is dead but find out that he is alive. She live in a land of Fairies when the men come and take their land. It is interesting. There is more to the story. I am on episode 3. I know that there will be season two.

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Did you mean for Sacred Games Indian series?

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Yes! Have you seen the first part? I'm trying to read the book but its HUGE and the type is small (or maybe I need new glasses?)
But its REALLY good!

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As I remember, I did watch Sacred Games but only first episode in first season. It was too dark and confusing I didn't think I could continue.

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@stpauligurl,

It turned out that marathoning ARTHDAL for a total-immersion refresher was less masochistic than I had feared it might be.

It's entirely possible that I'm now 100% marble-free. Was that a DIY lobotomy?! ;-)

Be that as it may, marathoning ARTHDAL at my leisure enabled me to remember the dots, let alone connect them. Letting it lie fallow in the back of my mind for two months worked out well for me. I'm not watching anywhere near as many shows as I have in the past. At a couple of points in the past few years, I was live-watching 10-11 airing shows, plus watching older dramas. I cannot juggle that many now, and am not interested in many of the new ones anyway. But I have been watching some older shows and movies, and that has been fun. ;-)

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@pakalanapikake, I am in a bit of a pickle because I left off AC at episode 8. I figured I had the rest of the summer to get caught up but episode 13 is at hand. I enjoyed what I have seen so far so I will have to get going.
O/T I am coming to the conclusion that I can handle only one tvN drama at a time along with whatever I am watching.
TvN episode lengths mess me up. I started WTDCYN while watching DS:60D . I was able to finish DS but I am afraid DEVIL is unfortunately a lost cause (holding at episode 3). It is embarrassing because I am a big JKH fan and enjoyed what I have seen so far.

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Do yourself a favor and make liberal use of fastforward to catch up.

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@marcusnyc20 bong-soo,

Episode 13 of ARTHDAL clocked in at an hour and 24 min., but it flowed well enough for me. Certain other tvN dramas, such as GOBLIN, were more tortuous to endure because of their length. That said, if you pick up where you left off with ARTHDAL now, by the time you catch up, part 3 will be well along, and you won't have to cool your heels for two months just as the show finally gets its butt in gear. (grumble, grumble)

I enjoyed DESIGNATED SURVIVOR: 60 DAYS, although it kind of stumbled in ep. 14, and the final episodes were not quite as good as the earlier ones. It was still a good show, however, and I enjoyed the individual performances. I hadn't watched the American version, and have no need to. I really enjoyed this cast. (Speaking of which, Chief Presidential Secretary Kim popped up in HEARTLESS CITY as a detective. LOL!)

I didn't even attempt to watch WHEN THE DEVIL CALLS YOUR NAME, and have skipped several other current shows, including Yoon Kyun-sang's classroom from hell, because the prospects seemed too depressing. I loved LIFE ON MARS, but just couldn't face a show about Faustian bargains, much as I went bonkers over Jung Kyoung-ho and Park Sung-woong in LOM. I don't need to go looking for synthetic existential despair, so will skip HELL IS OTHER PEOPLE, too.

What have I been watching instead? Taiwanese potboiler BEFORE WE GET MARRIED, which was oddly addictive despite having some truly frustrating characters. It ended up well. LOVE AFFAIRS IN THE AFTERNOON was a nice dysfunctional character study with a few personages who drove me out of my tree. But I really enjoyed most of the performances (including Kim Mi-kyung's!), and the final resolution, which was open-ended for the main two forbidden couples. Lee Sang-yeob was my original reason for tuning in. It was very nuanced, and I loved the instrumental soundtrack.

I enjoyed SLINGSHOT with Park Yong-ha – and Kim Kang-woo in a powerhouse performance. Just finished HEARTLESS CITY – with Jung Kyoung-ho, Choi Moo-sung, and Yoon Hyun-min as an unexpected badass.

I've wanted to see RULER OF YOUR OWN WORLD (2002) for ages, and finally started it a couple of days ago, although I've had to resort to watching it without subtitles. It's refreshing to see actors who look like normal people wearing normal street clothes. Yang Dong-geun (orabeoni in THE THIRD CHARM) is terrific, as is Gong Hyo-jin. Lee Dong-gun and Kim Jae-wook (19!) both look incredibly young. I got enough of an idea of the plot from reading a couple of reviews.

THE GREAT SONG SEUNG-HEON SHOW amuses me. And I'm enjoying trying to figure out what the heck is going on in LET ME HEAR YOUR SONG.

I've been reading up on the Tang siege of Ansi Fortress on the Liaodong Peninsula in 645 AD prior to watching THE GREAT BATTLE. See my fan wall for a dandy journal article and translations of Three Kingdoms historical sources. ;-)

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@pakalanapikake, as always thanks for the great briefing and mini-reviews. Sort of a “what I did this summer” report back in school. Lol.
So, what have I been up to? Well,
like you my drama watching has been reduced this year. Unlike you I am watching CLASS OF LIES. I am an episode and a half from completion which will give me my 10th bean.
I have one of those AMC monthly passes which I finally started to use this summer. I took in several Chinese movies and in August 3 Korean films: JJS’s EXIT (not to be confused with the 4 episode mini-series available on Viki), The BATTLE: ROAR TO VICTORY and the horror/action THE DIVINE FURY. (Although I enjoyed TDF it is probably not your cup of tea!)

The main reason I watched DS:60D was Lee Joon-hyuk (1984). I generally avoid pure political dramas but I made an exception because of LJH. Overall I enjoyed DS but I was disappointed in LJH’s character arc. I never believed that Acting President Park could become a viable Presidential candidate in such a short time. So I guess I had a problem with the whole premise for the drama. Also I never saw the American original.

One of the dramas I just finished and I think you would have liked is OCN’s WATCHER.
The 3 leads were terrific but I thought Seo Kang-joon was outstanding.
(He was great in the fight/action sequences. I would love to see him and Lee Joon-gi together in a drama preferably as antagonists. Wow!)
Also appearing in WATCHER with a small but important role is Park Hoon. What a year that guy has had.

I am glad you were able to take in HEARTLESS CITY and meet “Safari”. What a cast. Choi Moo-sung was wonderful in NOKDU FLOWER. Now you know why I love it when JKH goes into kick-ass mode.
I wonder if the costume director allowed YHM to express his inner self because he looked great.

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You're a brave soul. I'll just have to trust my limited memory. They could've also cut the dancing by 90% and the politics by even more.

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@ndlessjoie mugyuljoie,

Not brave, just trying to avoid going bonkers trying to remember stuff. Casting about trying to dredge up misplaced details would have driven me bananas.

I agree that a lot of stuff could have been axed -- and it would have improved the show.

Oh where, oh where has the Magic Horse gone?! Oh where, oh where can he be?!

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He's waiting for Carrot Boy to wise up.

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Or maybe he's joined Buster from Wok of Love. Poor Buster was sidelined during most of his drama too.

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@ndlessjoie,

Ah, Helper the Magic Horse joins Buster and the kitten -- and Bitchy Ballerina's guide dog from ANGEL'S LAST MISSION: LOVE in the Hotel California Home for Neglected Animal Actors... Pffft.

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Lost Weight - firmly in zero size zone.
Listened Yoo Na's Street OST
Watching Ashes
Watching political weather unfold.

Principles and rules say - fight
Tempted mind say - one die or millions - care only about your own.
Temptation is real. rise and become a hero or join the path to it - with fewer returns or Join the wave and enjoy the party.

Struggle of heart is real. @amara

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Listened Yoo Na's Street OST <3. Heck, I love the whole dang drama.

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Happy Friday Beanies!

I can't say I am in a drama slump and yet I've completed so few in recent months. If fanwalls are anything to go by, the last one which I was crazy over was The Light in Your Eyes and before that,Sky Castle. Then it was all C dramas - Put Your Head On My Shoulder, Go Go Squid and The Untamed. Maybe because they average more than 40 episodes, it took up a lot of my time. Plus I always move to watching BTS, interviews and all after I complete the drama.

I need to get back to some dramas which I put on hold - A Moment At Eighteen or Rookie Historian. And then there are new dramas coming up. If I do a bean count, it would be miserable.

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Hi @outofthisworld I was guessing that exam time (PSLE?) must have kept you away a bit.

A Moment at Eighteen keeps getting better. It will be a good one to pick up again!

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I am done with Psle last year, thank goodness! Been busy but it's not the reason. Watching C dramas do keep me away from DB because the discussion here is still mainly kdramas.

I'll give 18 another shot, thanks!

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I think we need to have a Cdrama corner for some weekly discussions :)

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Yes, I think so too but the only place we can do here is the fanwall.

There's no blogs which does C dramas the way DB does K dramas, is there?

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@outofthisworld, unfortunetly no, I tried looking for one but didn't find anything with active posters.

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@shach

Have you been to http://dr-myri-blog.blogspot.com/ They used to talk quite a bit on C dramas and even recap and fan fics. They have a weekly Rants and Raves section too.

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@outofthisworld, I didn't know this site, thanks for rec.

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@outofthisoworld Does Soompi not have threads for Cdramas?

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👍 for your suggestion. I am still a big fan of K-dramas however I have been watching C-dramas as fillers and as result am missing Beanie type insights.

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@MapleSilver

Thanks for reminding me that soompi exists!

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These are the blog sites I visit for variety of cdrama stuff. The site owners and admins have all expresses willingness to add additional contributors. Maybe you guys can ask them whether they are willing to add OT-style post. The only thing is, these are all "hobby" sites. So basic functionality, nothing fancy. Like the old DB.

https://cnewsdevotee.wordpress.com/

https://cfen.si/

https://www.avirtualvoyage.net/

The last one used to have a more regular post "What are you binge watching?" for people to post cdramas, kdramas, jdramas, western dramas, anime... that they are watching. The site owner has become busier in her work and thus, the posts has become less regular.

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avirtualvoyage.net has C-drama news and recaps

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@shach & @outofthisworld
I check "Rants and Weekly Raves" every week - it is a good site for commentary on Cdramas, kdramas, jdramas and now tdramas (dramas from thailand?) and even american dramas.
But I still like this fan wall the best for commenting and talking about cdramas...

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You know how on Viki they have the headings divided into "Korean" "Chinese" "Taiwanese" etc. This morning the China heading read "Mainland China" - so what's up with that?
I'm still too obsessed with everything Untamed to watch anything else. Everything including not just BTS, but videos of Xiao Zhan singing. What a beautifully rich voice he has.
I sort of try other C-dramas and Taiwanese so I'm kind of keeping up with the new Taiwan drama "Yong-jiu Grocery Store". If you want to watch something where nothing happens, but it's nostalgic and warm, try it. Especially if you're trying to go to sleep. I don't go to sleep because I like it, but right now I'll watch a few minutes of it and then go back to favorite scenes from Untamed.
Most modern C-dramas right now are driving me crazy because they're all the same, cookie-cutter.

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This is why I only like Historical cdramas

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I've even refined "historical cdramas" to Wuxia dramas. And even then I'm picky and don't like all Wuxia.

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"Wuxia dramas" sounds good, and you're right, some are too much. Iam still struggling with THE KING OF BLAZE

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@Martin J Simwaba King of Blaze is awful, give it up!

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Oh, and that's one reason Untamed was so good, because the story was so good, especially the last 10-15 episodes. And we can thank the author of the novel for writing such a good story with memorable characters. And the best "love" story I've yet seen. (No annoying triangles for instance).

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If I have time, I'd written about the story and the so called resolution on the main plot. The revelation at the end caught me by surprise and how it was handled, surprised me more. It does tie in with the overarching themes such as never judge a book by its cover, never ending battle against evil besides love and sacrifice.

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@outofthisworld Re your "If I have time" and the revelation at the end...I'm not sure which drama you're talking about - are you talking about Untamed or another drama? Cuz I'm confused.

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Sorry for the confusion.

Currently, my head is in the clouds. The Cloud Recesses that is.

But, yes, it's The Untamed.

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@outofthisworld What do you mean by "main plot" then? Sometimes Asian dramas don't care about such things...
Even Wei Ying said he didn't care about who brought him back. It didn't matter anymore. I think his words were "screw it" (at least in Viki's translation).
And if you mean their discussion at the end with Nie, yes it's a never ending battle between yin and yang (and as a young Buddhist student told me, without yin there would be no life, i.e. you can never totally defeat evil). They don't know what or if he'll do anything in the future. What would they do, kill him just in case? And become the same as the Jins, who wanted to kill every Wen clan member?
Excellent ending and thoughts.
It kind of reminded me of the ending of NIF2 when PingJing was told to go live his life (he was a free spirit after all) because he wasn't responsible for taking care of everything forever. And nothing stays the same, things always change. In other words, as far as NIF and NIF2, it was the beginning and ending of Changlin.
So, yes, definitely, the overarching themes you mentioned - which I find quite refreshing in dramas.
Hope this didn't sound too serious...I'm not that great with explaining my thoughts in a coherent manner, sigh.

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@linda-palapala I am not good at articulating my thoughts as well. My sole objective of watching dramas is entertainment. I don't ask for dramas to be meaningful or thought provoking but when they do, it's definitely a huge bonus. That said, I found myself to be quite a lazy viewer. For example, just looking at Hotel Del Luna's discussions gives me a brain cramp. I cannot extrapolate, fill in plots and analyse the messages.

For The Untamed, I felt that the messages were easy to catch yet meaningful. It's relatable even to our ordinary modern lives.

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@outofthisworld: Speaking of "ordinary lives" I think that's the main message in most if not all of the c-dramas I've watched: better to have an ordinary life than fame and fortune. I think that's even in the OST that Xiao Zhan sings!
Most of anything I say has come from someone else's comments. Even if I try to figure out something I get corrected!
And I'm with you, it's for entertainment first but sometimes deeper meanings are a bonus.

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Maybe they got some nasty comments in the wake of Hong Kong issues? Everyone seems to walking on eggshells regarding Chinese issues recently, so I'm not even that suprised.

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I thought maybe it had something to do with Taiwan and the furor over a map of Asia on some drama (don't remember which one) that showed Taiwan a separate color from China. Since China is really trying to get Taiwan back into the mainland.

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Oh that's too, it's all connected but the protests in Hong Kong made everyone extra sensitive and there are whole bunch of internet sleuths who try find anyone who don't adhere to "one China" ideology and bully them into submission. So they either hit on Viki or Viki decided to change it themself to avoid any controversy.

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Lol cookie-cutter, I cried read your comment. That's true, I can't bear any minutes watching modern C-dramas recently. I looking up for NiF or The Rise of Phoenixes kind of genre but my knowledge in C-dramas is so limited unlike K-dramas.

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I haven't watched NiF or Rise of Phoenixes, so I'm not sure what to rec'd. I like different wuxia for different reasons and it's kind of random.

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Hello, beanies! Hello, Friday!

I'm thoroughly annoyed that Rookie Historian episode 16 ended the way it did and also that I have to wait two more weeks to get new episodes. (Maybe I'll just wait three and binge the rest of the show then?) But I also felt like I had a few good epiphanies in that episode and maybe I can use them to make a theme-of-the-month post after all? We'll see.

In the meantime, I'm drowning my angst in Her Private Life. Y'all. I loveloveloved that show the first time around, but I forgot just HOW MUCH I loveloveloved it. It's so SO good! It's almost even better, now that I know how things are going to play out.

I was also thinking about watching Seven Day Queen; I know it ultimately ends sadly, but is the middle cute? Or is it pretty intense the whole way through?

Wishing everyone a healthy, happy, and fulfilling Friday <3

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SDQ - very cute in the beginning or was it the middle. The childhood romance was super sweet. The chances of a happy ending in a historical saeguk is almost zilch?

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ok, thanks!!

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I really enjoyed SDQ. Even though you know it ends sadly (since it's based on history) they still had a lovely romance and love and they had good chemistry with each other. If you like saeguk dramas I definitely recommend it as it's one of the better ones.

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Ok! I am on a sageuk kick right now, so maybe I'll give it a try <3

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@anothernicole,
I live-watched SEVEN DAY QUEEN when it aired, which was after REBEL: THIEF WHO STOLE THE PEOPLE. Both deal with Yeonsangun, but in different ways. Kim Ji-suk gave a wonderfully sympathetic portrayal of Yeonsangun in REBEL. Lee Dong-gun's take was equally compelling, and very intense. He dominates the action, whereas Yeon Woo-jin's younger half-sibling, Yi Yeok, is powerless -- and acutely aware of it -- from the get-go. If it's not his brother out to get him, it's other factions at court, so we know from the outset that this story will not be a happy one. The important thing to keep in mind is how the personal stories unfold against the historical backdrop to reach the endpoint. Chae-kyung herself is but a pawn in a much larger political game.

I greatly enjoyed the performances by the child actors. Lady Shin's relationship with her nanny is one of the high points of the drama for me. Park Si-eun and Park Min-young turn in splendid performances as the title character. I think I like PMY better in sageuk than in her last couple of contemporary rom-coms.

The cinematography is gorgeous. I can still see in my mind's eye the glorious sulfur-yellow fields of blooming rapeseed, and the scene of the two youngsters taking shelter from the rain. The finale is beautifully poetic and intensely moving.

SAIMDANG, LIGHT'S DIARY deals in passing with the deposed queen later in life. (Skip the modern timeline and stick to the Joseon one. Yang Se-jong and Song Seung-heon play the titular heroine's fictional first love.)

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this is awesome--thank you so much @pakalanapikake <3 <3 <3

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I loved how in SDQ, Chae Kyung was an integral part to the politics. She and Yi Yeok's story coincided with that of the politics happening behind. That is one of the main reasons I liked this show and haven't liked a sageuk since or before. Unlike ither sageuks, the politics is not what you skip because it's equally important. But the romance and chemistry holds it's own. Park Min Young had the best chemistry with Yeon Woo Jin.

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ooooo ok i am in. i was really wondering about the chemistry! thank you! and i love me some good court drama. <3

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I just finished Ep 16 of Rookie Historian anx am annoyed too! I expected so much more from our girls😭 and my poor puppy prince...

Her Private Life is one of my favorite shows too! They're both so sensible and mature. (Although I never get over my disbelief he is the hot waffle guy from Coffee Prince. I feel my age.)

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right????!!!!!

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Hello beanies, happy Friday
My class tomorrow has been cancelled... Yay for me...
So I have a whole weekend free to binge a drama or two, the unfortunate thing though is that I'm in a kind of kdrama slump☹️☹️. I've been gravitating towards pure cdrama fluff... Nothing heavy
Does anyone have a Chinese drama recommendation...
I've watched love 020, Le Coup de Foudre, Put your head on my shoulder and go go squid...
So any recommendations please... Help this bored girl🙏🙏

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@taylor Have you watched the cdrama When a Snail Falls in Love? It's very well made and worth the watch.

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Oh no... Thanks... I'll definitely check it out 😊😊

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Me too.
Have you seen THE DARK LORD? It pains me to know that iam the only one who has seen it.

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I couldn't find it anywhere. Is it on YT by another name? Who's the lead male so I can google his name.

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@linda-palapala

Joe Xu Hai Qiao

I am finding it incredibly difficult to track C actors. Unless I've watched their dramas, they kinda all look the same to me.

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I searched in imdb and it hasn't been rated. Is is good?

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@linda-palapala here's the link https://www4.dramacool.video/drama-detail/the-dark-lord and @soohyang i can't say anything, you can check the link and tell me if it's good

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When a Snail Falls in Love is definitely worth watching!

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have been wondering about this! *adding to my list. <3

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Yes, I can not wait for second season. I hope it is good and hope it will air soon.

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The Untamed. Not sure if it's exactly fluffy but it's cute enough at times and addictive.

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Have you tried any historical Cdramas? I really loved Yanxi Palace (some cute romance and palace machinations) and Nirvana in Fire (political thriller)!! Don't let the number of episodes scare you, they'll fly by in no time. Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms also has great romance and the cutest boy child actor hehehe

I also started Mr Fighting after seeing some beanies recommending it and now I'm hooked - I need me some hutong buddies to encourage me to work hard at life! 😅

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How's Mr Fighting? I watched the first episode but after reading comments that it's terribly slow and hardly much on the romance. I usually like slice of life dramas but it's just that I am in the mood for romance at the moment. I do like Sandra Ma in this and I was shocked to see her barefaced. How often do we get that?

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Mr Fighting, I really liked. The show, to me, was never set up to be a romantic series. I saw it as a group of people who were looking to help others find their way while also finding themselves. Even when the romance came into play, those other aspects were there. I am glad that the series was over a 5 year period as it made what was going on better.

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I really like the music from Mr. Fighting. Sandra sings one of the songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06VVQwoWHMM&list=PLQ_RBv_9DVc8V9gvEiaD-78NsQpB2fMLV&index=3&t=0s

Another song I like a lot. Just 2 young dudes I never new, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNsVDwaZp9A&list=PLQ_RBv_9DVc8V9gvEiaD-78NsQpB2fMLV&index=1

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Actually, after you watch the OTP mvs of the show's theme songs you'll want to commit to watching the entire show to see how the romance develops 😛 even tho it may not be the focus of the show

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Lol, the number of episodes is a big scare also the guilty feeling that comes with spending about 50+ hrs on a drama have kept me away from them 😅.
These days though, I have a lot of time on my hands with no social life whatsoever... So yeah... I'll go out of my comfort zone and try those... Thanks for the recommendations

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The number of episodes are a big deterrent. Well, until you get hooked and then you waste 50+hours of your life in like 3 days?

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@outofthisworld 😂😂😂 😂

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The thing abt Cdramas is that all the eps are only ~45mins each as compared to Kdramas 1h++ (I really feel the fatigue at the end of the ep!) They also have a real knack for ending the ep right in the middle of a moment, resulting in you jolting up with a "WAIT they ended there?! I just have to see what happens next or else 🤯" so you'll definitely want to keep on watching and you won't even feel the fatigue. Just make sure the autoplay is on, you won't regret it :p

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I don't understand the way they end episodes. Can someone explain because I never bothered to find out why - as you said I just go on to the next episode in the thick of my binge watch.

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I've not seen Mr. Fighting but all the other suggestions I second! They are my favorite cdramas. I also recommend Ashes of Love and The Untamed.

Another modern one I suggest that I really loved is Love me if you Dare. It's a romantic action one.

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Ooooh!! I stumbled upon Arsenal Military Academy last weekend and it's a hoot! Bai Lu and Xu Kai together again, my favorite THE LEGENDS couple. I can really recommend it. Eagerly awaiting more episodes.😁

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When We Were Young (2019) is a coming-of-age story with a Reply series vibes. My heart fluttered a lot of Hua Biao, the new student, who joined the already formed group of friends.

Suddenly, This Summer tells the story of two people's relationship from highschool to adult life. The story isn't as cutesy and sweet as a rom-com but it has realistic portrayal of such relationship.

The Big Boss is a comedy drama set in highschool and depending on your sense of humour, you will love its absurdity or wonder what's going on.

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The Untamed turned out to be my favorite love story ever.

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Oh a couple more modern cdramas I forgot about!

Boss and Me woman donated blood to her CEOs sister and as thanks the sister had the CEO give her a healthy lunch everyday which eventually turns into romance (he falls hard and fast).

A Love So Beautiful Has Wu Bai from Go Go Squid as the ML. A cute high school romance between a girl who has had a crush on her neighbor for years.

I Hear You Guy and girl end up on a reality TV show as a couple despite both having had a bad previous impression with each other. Ends up with cohabitation hijinks.

Sweet Dreams Through this new technological device the main woman is able to enter into the guy she is seriously crushing on dreams. He is the CEO of a flower company where she ends up working.

(wish you could edit posts!)

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The Go hyesun-Ahn Jaehyun breakup continues to hog headlines. Every day there is a new reveal. I was pretty much detached from the whole affair until I gave in, and read the texts that unveiled the unravelling of the marriage.

I felt incredibly sad. In a minute, she had become a real person with real feelings. She was no longer the BoF girl. It was heartbreaking to read the texts. On both sides. Loneliness and separation and jealousy and prolonged absence. Mistrust. Misunderstandings. Longing. Love. Sadness. Misery.

To have all this personal private pain played out in the public eye is unimaginable.

Other people get sucked in.

Hate begets hate. Hurting someone you loved may assauge some of the pain, but in the long run, you could end up hurting yourself.

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10 to 15 years ago, none of this would be public. But people are so attached to their social media presence, they share "too much" because SNS is designed to be unfiltered to go viral.

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It is the only K drama that I've been following religiously. Divorce with Flaws stared Ahn Jaehyun and Go Hyesun. Keep'em coming, new episodes.

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Funny how they did a reality show on their newlywed life, and now this "reality show" on their divorce.

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I have avoided their news and these messages specially but after your post I ended up reading them. Seems like a normal downfall of a relationship. Love, sadness, anger all of it but it saddens me to think that it's all public. Me, a nobody in their life knows their private messages too. I wonder how Dispatch got hold of them though, they do tend to shift a narrative one way but still, it must be greatly stressing for them. I wish both of them live their happy lives and this doesn't affect their career more than it already has.

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I have a strong feeling ahn jae hyun's camp released it to balance the texts Go hye sun posted on IG. It was perfectly timed with his co star announcing she was going to sue for defamation, and stills of his new hotbod for the show. 😑

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Props to you. I read halfway until I stopped. It was way too long for me to read it. Props to Dispatch of getting two years of it. I do not know how they did it.

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I was following this and my heart broke when I read the Dispatch release of their chats. It all got so ugly SO fast. Sadly when the SongSong couple broke up that's when I became mildly interested in their marriage as "proof" that celeb love CAN last. Well, there you go...
I think it's a PR war now, with some spin doctors strategically releasing info to save his career and his upcoming show. I think both of them were deeply lonely and scarred and probably clinically depressed, and they both need help. It is painful to watch this "drama" unfold knowing there won't be a happy resolution by ep 16, but I hope both of them find peace in the future.

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Hi Everyone! ..... I hope you are all doing well today. Weather-wise, it's been super hot around here. It's awful! Hopefully you are all enjoying much more pleasant weather.

Hotel Del Luna - The Kim Soo-hyun cameo took so long to happen in the final episode that I was beginning to think he would end up being the driver who was taking everyone through the tunnel to the other side!

Justice - For a second I thought Chairman Song's son might be the one to come forward with evidence, but apparently the writer had other thoughts. I still have to watch the last two episodes.

Let Me Hear Your Song - Still enjoying this but I can't help and be a little suspicious of Yi-young's family. I'm constantly getting the feeling they know more than they pretend to.

Doctor John - Ok, so the nurse who apparently has that prosecutor on speed-dial is really starting to bug me.

That's all for now. Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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Hi @korfan
LOL Kim Soo Hyun cameo-ing as the limo driver. It was far too short a cameo but better than nothing. Do actors get paid to cameo?

I've almost stopped Dr John. Partly I'm running out of time and partly the strange romance is bothering me. I may pick it up later or if @michykdrama is back to being able to do the Medicaps. 😀

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Great weekand to everyone!! Autumn is here, days are sunny but the the chill in the air is undeniable, my favourite season has started.
Chinese drama corner, this week I started BLOODY ROMANCE and NIRVANA ON FIRE, I plan to binge on BR (even though I find heroine wide eye naivete irritating at time, concpet is intriguing) this weekend and savour NOF throughout week.

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Bloody Romance was entertaining. Not my favorite but was still enjoyable for what it was. I also wasn't a big fan of her in the beginning but she does get better as the dramas progresses. Her Shadow is delicious though 😏

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strange, my comment got swallowed up, trying again

Once you finish these two, shout out if you find another C gem. I am looking for one, still stuck in the Cloud Recesses. *whispers* I'm actually watching Gank Your Heart. I can't believe myself!

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Ha ha, I started Gank Your Hreat too, but I'm not in the mood for teen dramas (dropped Go Go Squid too) and stayed with historical dramas for now.

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I'm watching Love Better Than Immortality right now (I have 3 episodes left). It's definitely low budget and silly and has almost no plot to it, but I really like the OTP. They have great chemistry together and I do like their romance. The great chemistry is probably because the actors had literally walked off their last drama, Prodigy Healer, where they were also the OTP, straight into this drama. A fun and entertaining drama that has helped distract me.

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Thanks! I'll check it out.

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I tried to watch Gank Your Heart but I was also watching another esports related drama, The King's Avatar with Yang Yang. So I dropped GYH for Yang Yang, sorry Wang Yi Bo! TKA's story and gaming world is just so much better than.

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I am doing a critique on WYB's acting or so I think. No other reason why I am watching Gank Your Heart. It all started because I was convinced he'd be bad. So that I can stop and just wait for Xiao Zhan's dramas.

6 eps on, this is obviously not a well written drama(though surprisingly, I can relate to the gaming part better than in Go Go Squid). It's bound to get worse but I am stoically hanging on for my analysis.

Yang Yang - I watched very little of LoveO2O, he didn't hook me. Probably wasn't the right show or I didn't watch enough. I do find myself more susceptible to C actors for unknown reasons. Like after I watched Wu Xin, I was crazy over Elvis Han. Then Li Xian in GGS. So should I really check out on Yang Yang?

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I only watched 6 episodes of Gank Your Heart. I was starting to get annoyed with the female lead and had to stop. If I miss Wang Yi Bo enough, I may try it again.

LoveO2O was probably not your thing but I did enjoy the no angst fluff. Yang Yang's character in The King's Avatar is totally different than in LoveO2O. In TKA, he portrays a great mentor and leader. It's a no romance drama but more about team work and passion. Yang Yang really did carry the whole show. As with most cdramas, the pacing does slow down a bit, but that's what the FF is for. His team is really nothing without him. I've said it to others who have watched TKA, Ye Qiu (character name) is Glory (name of the game they play) and Glory is Ye Qiu. If you have time, check it out and see if it's for you. I do recommend watching the gaming world on the TV. Anything else would not do it justice.

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Hi Everyone and Happy OT! (Thanks for the earlier OT @mary!)

I'm having an unexpected but nice quiet time at home and likely to continue this way for the weekend. It feels like a retreat at home with hardly a soul to speak to and interrupt my waking hours. I'm enjoying myself. More so because I've got a lot of preparation to make for a formation retreat and I need the peace and quiet. I know where the husband is but I'm wondering where the kids might be though. Heh!

For fun and entertainment I've stuck to just 1-2 shows, one of them being the either much praised, misunderstood or maligned Hotel (de la) Luna, and the other being One Moment at Eighteen

I forgot that I didn't hit 'Send'! LOL... so this post is 45 minutes in the stewing.

About HDL: I found it good enough in that it hit the mark for me in the areas I tend to lay emphasis on such as a good, coherent plot, character growth and consistency and my own preference in plot movement ie characters who become more a team than not by the end of the show, as long as it makes sense. Oh, and also an ending that is ‘logical’ for the plot. Maybe for all these alone it would have been an A- but the music and the beauty of the show pushed it up to A or even A+. I'm not grading it for the romance though, which I found somewhat wanting, but since I was not watching for that, it's all good.

A couple of us were hoping that show could have written in the logic where MW could have lived out her remaining years with CS, not as hotel owner but as ordinary mortal. But when I think how her existence was lengthened unnaturally by the energy of the moon, and that from the beginning it was said that she was tied to the hotel and the tree (or vice versa), then I suppose it makes sense that as the moon's energy was withdrawn, she'd have to end. Still, being a fantasy, the Hong Sisters could have written in some fantasy logic to have given a happier ending.

One Moment at Eighteen is giving us lovely character development in all the kids, and not just the main duo. That is so nice to see. Now if only more adults could get some growth as well... like those mums who could become more than best chums .... like maybe become future in-laws? :-D

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I didn't post anything in final recap of HDL because I just enjoyed this show ;) nothing more and nothing less, I liked that the plot followed it's own logic and didn't flip on romantic ending, and I enjoyed the stories told but I wasn't emotionally invested in characters or storytelling.

And quiet weekend what a treat :D Hope you'll enjoy it fully.

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Thanks @shach I certainly will enjoy my 'retreat' time.

I wrote a lot but not on DB. There were so many intriguing things about HDL to chew on, so many possibilities and interpretations. A very rich show.

Puts me in mind of having something to eat... rich cake anyone? 🍰 🍰 🍰

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I think the Hong Sisters wanted to try writing epic sad love stories in a fantasy for a while. They wrote happy endings when they were far less possible in stories like Big. I didn't like Hwayuggi and disliked HdL so I would like to imagine they are ready to go back to routine comedy and love which is what they understand in my opinion. Just stay in the real world with things like My Girl, Greatest Love or even Warm & Cozy.

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Hi there @lixie,
I really enjoyed My Girl and I'd never have know that was a Hong Sisters show. I did not watch Greatest Love and did not care for the others. I was terribly ascerbic about W&C (LOL WC for short!) and I think the only enjoyment I had from it was by roundly abusing that show.

Guess which of these fruits I actually did eat today. 🍓🥝🍌🍉🍍🍒 😄

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I do not think MW could have lived like a normal mortal. She drank Mago's poison wine in order to be a trapped spirit to the Moon tree. MW had reaper like powers, probably from accumulated knowledge from centuries of being the hotel owner. It would have been the wrong "happy" ending. I was content with how the show finished (except for the trial balloon attempt for a second season).

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What trial balloon attempt? I know there was talk but was there a survey or something else about the unlikely 2nd season?

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I agree with you on HDL. It was an enjoyable watch and had some lovely moments in it, good acting, beautiful cinematography and atmosphere but there was something that holds it back from being a 'favorite' drama for me. I'm not quite sure what stopped it from being a favorite but really thinking about it right now I think ultimately I felt the romance was a bit lacking. I think it might have been Chan-Sung's character was a bit too stiff (which I don't think this was Yeo Jin-Goo's fault but more the writers fault). Either way I enjoyed it and would suggest it to others but it's not a drama I would rewatch.

I did like the ending. Despite it being bittersweet I thought it fit with the rest of the drama and didn't break the story to try and force a happy ending. It was sad but left the viewers with hope of a better future.

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@trinpie The unusually staid and chaste relationship certainly took something away from the warmth and satisfaction in watching this show. I liked the chasteness but it could also do with some warmer gestures of closeness and belonging that is natural in a romance. I believe it was the director and the writers who set it this way. Still it was a grand romance in the style of "no matter how long it takes, there's only you for me". A bit too sad and lonely but it was a choice CS made. (However I believe that they are tied together by the flower that dreams of the moon and can see each other whenever he dreams. So it's not entirely that he's abandoned.) 😄

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I was totally and completely sucked in by HDL and loved it. I'm pleased they carried it through with no current life happily ever after. I've also been watching Moment at Eighteen and will be less happy with a not happy ending.

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True @ndlessjoie I can forgive a sad ending with HDL, but not so much for AM18. I guess, as they are still kids, I'm ok for an open ending where they'll go study in different places and plan to keep meeting in the future. However, I'd like a nice closure with the right couples together and adults on good terms.

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When you want to be part of Open Thread but you have no idea what to say.... XD

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Been there, done that. Good thing is that we're open for anything.

Join me in a glass? 🍹 🍹

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Chinking glasses, me down here in the alley, you up there on the rooftop. Cheers.

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Sorry I'm a beer girl but sure! *clinks beer mug* ;)

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You could just ramble about nonsensical stuff. You'd be amazed how many friends I've gained here through my nonsense. We can spend days rambling about the weirdest things. Once in a while I rant about my errand boy curse. It gets me a lot of sympathy.

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"errand boy curse" LOL
I think there's a lot to rant about there.

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*settles down* i am here for any and all rants against errand-boyness

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I keep thinking I should write up something about possible bugs in the system. It would be be long, and before I could start I would need to spend a few hours crunching numbers in a spreadsheet to confirm the details, and I'm lazy and I hope someone else will do it.

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This reminds me of something. Long ago I had a job interview in the world trade center building (yeah, that one). The guy asked me if it is possible to write a bug-free/ perfect program. I was thinking "this guy is weird." I didn't get that job. Was I lucky!

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@fanwho How come? That's actually a great question...

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Right Mary? I was thinking that too. So as the Dramabeans tech, what do you think? ;)

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Yo, @yyishere YY,

Do you have a cameo in ARTHDAL CHRONICLES? I forgot where it left off. Were you playing Helper's saddle blanket, or the carrot? Or was it the telepathic visions zinging between Eun-seom and fashion plate Saya?

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I wanted to be a cave, because as you know, I have a fondness for geographical features - totally laughing my head off at this again - but I passed...being an errand boy is so draining...

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@yyishere YY,

Good thing you passed on another geographical feature gig. The swamp in ep. 13 was a dumping ground for corpses. I wonder if Eun-seom found Jimmy Hoffa when he dove in to escape his pursuers... And that snowy mountain pass... frostbite city. Brrrrrr!

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Okay, I just laughed my head off again at the swamp corpse dumping ground thingy. I am howling. I've got tears in my eyes. Omg.

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Curse? Being an errand boy is good honest labor. BTW, my rooftop is strangely bereft of good food, and as I relax enjoying the sunshine and views, I find myself feeling a bitt hungry. Could you deliver some jajangmyeon, and please stop at a coffee shop and get me a nice iced coffee? (I'm not sure why I phrased that as a question.)

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😂😂😂😂😂

but also yes. i'm on my way.

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Hurmph. This is the kind of triviality that I spend too much of my precious hours on - I am typing this at the red lights, on my rounds. My scooter has a trickle of petrol left, the rain just left my hair a soaking mess, and there is a hole in my helmet, which I discovered after my hair became a soaking mess, and I don't understand why I am wasting my life and straining my poor overworked errand fingers replying to you. And I just read this through, and I have realised it is not a reply, but a rant about my miserable errand boy life. Ah, the lights have turned green. I must be on my way...

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You, and all of the other errand boys stuck in errand boy purgatory, are welcome on my rooftop any time.

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💕💕💕💕💕💕

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If you need some cash to hold a party or make your rooftop cozier, call me. I've got special rates for beanies.

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That's exactly what is happening to me right now✏❔

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So I've just realized that I don't think I've ever posted in an Open Thread... and that situation has now been rectified.

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Good post. Short. To the point. Too often I ramble and then rue that I didn't keep my fingers off the keyboard.

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I've been lurking around this walls since 2012, I just registered my Dramabeans account last month or so... Made my first OT comment today... These are all baby steps to put myself out more... My friend thinks I have a bad case of 'internet introversion'. Maybe she's right. It's definitely something I wish to correct though

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I've also lurked around DB since 2012 and only just started posting several months ago. I'm extremely introverted--both on and offline--so I get where you're coming from. It can be hard to put yourself out there as an introvert, so good on you for trying!

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Hi guys! Glad to hear your “voices” here! I talk al the time, so I’m sure everyone will be glad to hear from someone else for a change!

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Aw, thanks! Although I'm sure no one minds hearing from you regularly 🙂

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welcome welcome welcome! <3

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Ditto.

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