Open Thread #625
by mary
Happy Friday everyone!
Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.
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1 protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 6:07 AM
TGIF, at last! I hope everyone's had a good week so far. Sometimes I find it so difficult to get through the school week! Thank goodness it's finally over.
We don't have seasons where I live, so I can't quite join in on the internet's enthusiasm for Autumn and Halloween, but I am thrilled we're inching closer to Christmas. My favourite time of the year!
I also wanted to ask:
Beanies who cook—What are your favourite dishes to make for a party that are relatively stress-free and not too fussy? It could be pretty much any cuisine and any type of dish. I'm just curious and in need of some new ideas.
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rue
October 11, 2019 at 6:56 AM
I usually make spaghetti with meat sauce if it's just my girlfriends coming over, or barbeque wings, or korean fried chicken(with or without gochujang) and potato wedges if it's more people
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:12 AM
korean fried chicken is so delicious! do you deep-fry your chicken? I loooove fried chicken, but I'm apprehensive about deep-frying because I'm always concerned about what to do with all the leftover frying oil.
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rue
October 11, 2019 at 8:24 AM
I usually deep fry it then bottle up the oil and reuse it. I don't know if it's allowed by those that allow or forbid these things but I'm still alive so **shrug**. I've also oven-baked the wings when I'm going through my "healthy periods" then poured a glaze/rolled them in a paste I found in Maangchi's youtube videos.
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bluekitchen
October 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM
You can reuse the oil. But for deep frying use a palm oil which can hold higher temperature. Heat an empty pan first, then when it's hot add the oil. You know it's ready if you stick a chopstick in and bubbles form around it. If it's very hot then there's less chance the batter falls off and muddies oil. If it does, strain the oil. Just store oil for fish/meat in difft jars bec oil used for fish will make other meats taste fishy. And don't let fried food sit on paper towels -- drain on wire racks, and double fry (2nd fry is flash fry in a highee heat just to crisp up batter, so it won't get soggy later on; maangchi has a good youtube tutorial for this)😘
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 7:23 AM
If it's food for tea or dessert, I may make Apple Crumble. The time consuming part is cutting up the apple. However after it's cooked, it can be kept in the fridge for a couple of days and then baked with crumble topping. You can add lots of crushed nuts and stuff into the crumble to make it scrumptious. Hmmm, I'm feeling hungry right now!! 🥧 😋
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:13 AM
omg love a good crumble, especially with custard or vanilla ice cream 🤤
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 8:15 AM
Yup, heap on the ice cream (just forget about the calories LOL!)
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:24 AM
Calories?? What are those?? 👀
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 7:29 AM
Curry - choose a style and level of spiciness which would suit your guests. You can have assortment of sides to go with it.
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:15 AM
yes, this is a great idea! my dad's side of the family is south indian, so curry is a staple. I'm not the best at cooking curry, though, getting the mix of spices right is difficult when you don't have experience. practise makes perfect, I suppose!
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM
I cheat, I buy curry paste from the supermarket although there's a indian stall that gives you the right mix according to your requirements. It's relatively easy dish to cook once you get the right mix of spices. *So says the person who doesn't cook at home most of the time.*
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:48 AM
oooh, i've never tried those before, but that's a great idea! i might go and have a look. there's a huge indian community here, so they're not going to be hard to find at all!
kiara
October 11, 2019 at 8:40 AM
Korean and Japanese curry are so yummy and easy to make with the Golden Curry sauce mix.
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:49 AM
oh yes 🤤 I always dump potatoes into mine. they soak up the curry so well!
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kiara
October 11, 2019 at 9:16 AM
That's it. I'm having curry today lol.
atz
October 12, 2019 at 2:58 AM
to make taste a bit deep, add either soy sauce or Worcester sauce( or tonkatsu sauce) into the sauce. And you can substitute potatoes with radish( Daikon) if you like to cut calories /heaviness of the taste.
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kiara
October 12, 2019 at 5:40 AM
Thank you!
bluekitchen
October 12, 2019 at 3:26 PM
Oooh never thought to try this! Have to do it. I love the Bulldog brand of worcestershire/tonkatsu sauce!
bluekitchen
October 12, 2019 at 3:24 PM
YEEESSS!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:42 AM
I've been thinking of curry for the past three days and suddenly today, it's mentioned here and on another site. Sign? I think so.
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bluekitchen
October 11, 2019 at 7:52 AM
Roast chicken! The oven does all the work, and I can just serve it with salad or simple side dishes and wine.
Or slow cooker chili (also, because the gadget does all the work) then a huge plate of nachos and baked potatoes.
All else fails, a deli meats and cheese platter with a basket of bread and a simple pasta.
(We have family get-togethers once a month when my siblings and nieces/nephews visit my mom who lives with me, so these are my insta-party menus to feed a crowd😜).
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:17 AM
I've wanted to get a slow cooker for the LONGEST time and it just hasn't happened because I'm not sure where in my kitchen to keep it 😂 It would be awesome for braising some beef or pork and making sandwiches.
gatherings at yours sound lovely, I'm sure your family is super happy they're getting so much good food ♡
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bluekitchen
October 11, 2019 at 8:45 AM
Slow cooker is SOOOO worth it. I can watch dramas AND make dinner hahahaha! Since I work I put cheap cuts of meat in the morning and it's fork tender when I get home.
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tsutsuloo
October 11, 2019 at 7:54 AM
I'm still stuck on your comment about the lack of seasons. Does your environment change more subtly? Like, "dry season" and then "super dry season"?
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:22 AM
I'm in Southeast Asia, right on the equator, so we don't experience changes in weather that bring about the changing of seasons! Our weather is pretty much humid and hot, humid and hotter and humid during monsoon season. Once, we had an unusual drop in temperature and it was about 22C out (about 72F) and people went about wearing jackets and commenting on the chill 😂😂😂
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bluekitchen
October 11, 2019 at 8:39 AM
Same!!!!! I'm in Manila where weather is hot and humid ALL year. Our "seasons" are Hot, Hotter, and Kill Me Now.😜
I also briefly lived in Singapore and Indonesia bec my Dad's work assigned him all over ASEAN. At least in Indonesia, it rained in afternoons (at least when we were living there). SG was hot but less humid...
It's just degrees of heat and humidity on Southeast Asia😜
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:44 AM
Omg, I'm an SG beanie. HI! Hahaha. Kill Me Now was pretty much our weather the whole of June 😂 It's so interesting seeing weather reports in Western countries talking about temperatures rising to 30 degrees. 36 is the norm here 🤪
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 8:54 AM
@choijunu
You should have said you are S'porean! Get your curry spices from the wet market. If that proves daunting, head to the dried goods store and buy A1 chicken /meat curry sauce and get some curry leaves to go with it.
tsutsuloo
October 11, 2019 at 10:30 AM
My emoji is sweating just thinking about it: 😅
My mom grew up in Malaysia and people would ask her why she liked living in the northeast USA. Her reply was always, "I've had enough heat and humidity to last a lifetime!"
When I go "home, home", I try to schedule for less rain and humidity when possible. (While traveling in Ipoh during a light rain, I once slipped into a 5 ft/1.5 meter deep uncovered manhole!)
bluekitchen
October 11, 2019 at 8:53 AM
OMG Hi!!!! I was just in SG a few weeks ago! Hope the Haze is better. It has been a crazy hot year, hasn't it?!
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 5:07 PM
Heheheh! Singapore has become much cooler these last 2 weeks. It's been raining on and off. So the haze has gone. Nice and clearer blue skies now. Still gets humid but heat is no longer at killer levels. 😁
bluekitchen
October 11, 2019 at 9:17 AM
@outofthisworld i love CURRY!!! Now I want some hahahaha. The smells in the kitchen too ❤❤❤ and curry leaves and the coconut milk breaking into coconut oil, and lots of hot rice......
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 9:21 AM
Yes, curry is always awesome with rice! I usually eat more rice whenever I have curry. Recently, I tried making basmati rice to go with my curry and it's heavenly!
growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 5:11 PM
Hah! I was guessing you are in Singapore when you said that. Yes, so am I. 😄
Over here it's indoors that I end up wearing Winter wear LOL. I kid you not. In my tiny office, the central aircon turns me into an icicle. I'm in 2 to 3 layers of (one of which is a woolly) and with a woollen scarf to wrap around my head. 🥶
Even my colleagues from out of town who are used to temperate climates and Winter complain about the cold in my room. 😰 🤣
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 6:45 PM
😍😍😍 helloooo fellow singaporean beanie!!
oof, your room must be absolutely freezing. I’m so used to the heat and humidity that my cold tolerance is pretty low. I don’t even sleep with the air-conditioning on the whole night nowadays 🤣
tsutsuloo
October 12, 2019 at 8:32 AM
The struggle is real. I work at a public television station; most of my female colleagues have office polar fleece, shawls or even fingerless gloves. Our television studios are very cold to counteract the heat from the lighting. But the temperature is the same, whether we're filming or not. I know I wasn't the only newbie who had to to deal with embarrassing nipple reactions—imagine spending an entire meeting with your arms folded across your chest. And ever since, I always keep a fleece just for meetings in that studio.
Office buildings are regulated for men's bodies. Inspired by Game of Thrones, College Humor's take on office AC interpreted the problem brilliantly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NNm8MTboA
shach
October 11, 2019 at 8:34 AM
Salads or snacks with some dips, quick to make and quantity are easily adjustable.
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:47 AM
as someone who loves everything with sauces, dips are like true a gift from god.
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cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 8:43 AM
guacamole-- avocado, onion, lime juice, some salt and pepper... then just bring your favorite salsa and some sour cream for the side^^
And if I want to get a little bit more creative, maybe a southwest relish (cowboy's salsa? There's lots of names for it^^) It's a mixture of canned corn, beans, avocado, lime juice, cilantro, and tomatoes, like a salsa. Very good. Good luck! Any fun parties coming up then?
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 8:46 AM
wow, I've never heard of a southwest relish, but it sounds awesome! definitely going to put it on the list. my mum's birthday is coming up in November, so we might have a little gathering then. that aside, my family usually hosts a big get-together to celebrate christmas, and I've been using it as an opportunity to try out new things 😆
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 12:36 PM
I have that recipe as Cowboy Caviar and it is soooo easy AND good! But I have to make twice as much as I eat at it for days.
hmmmmmm maybe this is a good weekend to make another batch.
honestly it is good - especially with corn chips.
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cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 12:58 PM
Right? Hmmm... I do have to go shopping today... ahahahahaha now I want to eat^^
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 6:48 PM
you and me both!
bluekitchen
October 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM
Cowboy Caviar -- cool name!
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Wag-a-muffin
October 11, 2019 at 10:38 AM
Calzones. You can make them ahead of time and the fillings are endless. One of our family favorites is "Reuben Calzone," so totally not culturally accurate. I fill a calzone round with warmed corned beef slices, warm white sauce, Swiss or Gouda cheese, and warm sauerkraut that I have squeezed out every bit of moisture possible. Then I fold it over to the half moon share, fork crimp the edges, brush an eggwash glaze on, and bake. (If you don't pre warm the filling it doesn't yeast-rise as well.) I'm not using cooking terms, but I hope you can understand. This is not Asian cooking, but calzones and dumplings (mandu) are fairly similar. Other fillings are red sauce, grilled pineapple, mozzarella and cashew, chicken teriyaki, grilled peppers and onions. . .the possibilities are endless.
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 10:48 AM
Your description of calzones is making me very hungry!
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 5:14 PM
😍 Any form of dumplings are great for parties. Finger food is best for when we stand around and chat while eating.
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 6:49 PM
There’s nothing like a good dumpling 🤤 The ultimate for me: super juicy xiaolongbao with vinegar and lots of ginger 😍
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bluekitchen
October 12, 2019 at 3:15 PM
Aaaaah and now I want xiaolongbao!!! I wish I knew how to make these, but how to fill them with soup and not make them break?
Now I want to go to a dimsum place and get this and spicy chicken feet and taro puffs and.....
protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 6:47 PM
Sounds heavenly omg. Do you make your dough from scratch? Over here, we don’t get uncooked pizza dough (to my knowledge at least) so I was wondering if there are any subs, e.g. puff or shortcrust pastry?
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Wag-a-muffin
October 11, 2019 at 7:32 PM
I make my dough from scratch.
2 Tablespoons quick acting yeast
2 cups warm water with 1/3 c sugar mixed in
1/3 cup butter
2 1/2 teaspoons salt
2/3 c nonfat dry (powdered) milk
5-6 cups white wheat flour
(I usually use unbleached bread flour when I can find it.)
1 egg.
Let the yeast "bloom." Mix everything together. I have a bosch bread mixer. But if you do it by hand just knead until you want to die : )
For Calzones you don't have to let it rise, just roll out in a circle (twice as big as you want the finished calzone to be), fill, turn, crimp, and bake at 350 until golden. (I also use one more egg for an egg wash halfway through.)
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bluekitchen
October 12, 2019 at 3:20 PM
Wow!!!! I Wish I knew how to make dough! Despite watching dozens of youtube tutorials always end up overkneading or I doing something so it's crumbly and/or a sticky mess. Your Calzones sounds sooo good.
javinne
October 11, 2019 at 10:29 PM
A spinach omelette. Easy to make, healthy, and can be eating either warm or cold. Better warm,, of course, but also room temperature.if you add small pieces of bacon,, taste better. Depending of the spinach you're using, it could be tasteless or even bitter to some,, but the bacon does the trigger all the time!! Wish you success!!!
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Saner
October 12, 2019 at 5:23 AM
@saya This is *so* your thread!
For ease, I make oven-y things (like Nadiyah Hussain's Chicken and Rice Bake) Lamb Rogan Josh with rice and naan, Thai Green/Red Curries....Anything where I just prep, cook and then can chat to my heart's content!
However, I'm a fairly fuss-loving cook - it makes my heart sing to see people enjoy my soul-cooked food!
Japchae is great, as is Kimchi jjigae. Problem is, I tend to eat it all up myself....
I also love making Mexican/Tex-Mex like Quesadillas (can cook them all in the oven at once), Enchiladas, Fajitas. All can ooze with as much spiced flavour, veg and cheese as your heart desires!
My DH makes packed nachos with guac and sour cream or a solid sizzling roast dinner with crunchy skin blessed rosemary chicken, crisp crunchyfluffy roast potatoes,
I also have been known to knock together a quick (or slow) pizza dough and encourage everyone to decorate their own. I look to smitten kitchen for the slow pizza dough recipe (https://smittenkitchen.com/2013/10/lazy-pizza-dough-favorite-margarita-pizza/) or to this grilled dough for a quick pizza (https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/quick_cheats_pizza_88026)
Jollof rice (a spicy, flavour-packed, stew-simmered rice), fried salted plantain and some variant of chicken with some coleslaw or salad is also a massive winner.
Sweet wise - cookies (chocolate chip or triple chocolate. I don't just do double. Go big or go home!), gooey brownies (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/occasions/easter/easter-chocolate-recipes/brazil-nut-brownies but without the nuts) and cakes!
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bluekitchen
October 12, 2019 at 3:27 PM
These all sound so good!
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2 stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 6:27 AM
Happy Friday to all the beanies around the world! Do you know how much you make my days? Love this site and all the fun conversations..
This morning I woke up with a smile thinking it was Saturday - then realized to my despair it's still Friday. :-(
So I've decided to look for another job that pays better and has better benefits. Wish me luck!
I talked with a recruiter yesterday about a job in a town an hour south of me. At first the pay and bennies sounded great - then I thought - with that much time on the road how will I watch my dramas every day? ACK!
gotta keep my priorities straight, right?
But I'm just at the beginning of my search and can afford to be somewhat picky as I still have a job now. Unfortunately I love the work and the team and the location, which makes it so hard to think of leaving....
I work as a contractor for a large IT company that makes contractors take time off when they close for a week. Which means no pay for me. :-( .
Anyway - for all the beanies who are struggling and feeling stressed - just know that we are all here for you and each other.
**fighting** to all of us!
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Kurama
October 11, 2019 at 6:29 AM
I watch my dramas in the train! I have two hours by day but the time flies like that!
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 7:40 AM
Oh that would be awesome! But there is no train for me - it would be by car on the freeway - then I could listen to audio books.......
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Kurama
October 11, 2019 at 7:52 AM
Ah yes, by car it sucks.
Good luck for your search! :)
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Beverly
October 11, 2019 at 6:38 AM
Good luck!
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 7:41 AM
Thank you - I tell myself this is just a start and not to get worried...
But it will all turn out well I'm sure.
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rue
October 11, 2019 at 7:04 AM
May you find a better job with better benefits and pay. May it be close enough to allow satisfactory drama watching😄. All the best!
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 7:43 AM
Thank you - I'm not sure I can find a better job with the group right now - but certainly one with better pay and bennies.
Right now I get to work at 7 am so I can leave at 3:30 - which is quite sublime - but right now all I can afford is to work then go home and watch dramas....
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 7:19 AM
Yes, it's hard to get the best balance of a great job that one likes, colleagues who are nice and pay/benefits that pay the bills and adds something to the savings. To tell the truth, after being working for decades, I'm missing the nice colleagues.
All the best in your job hunt and in wrenching yourself from your current job!
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 7:46 AM
Yes it is hard - as I've felt so lucky to work at an office 10 minutes from home, with a great team.... but when the company forces us to take days off without pay it sucks. I'm the only contractor who doesn't have a partner who brings in another paycheck and benefits.
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protect junwoo
October 11, 2019 at 7:31 AM
All the best in your search! It’s never easy moving on, but I hope you find something that gives you benefits and fulfilment! *hugs* ♥️
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 7:44 AM
Thank you! It is hard to put oneself out there in the job market - but it's easier knowing that I'm still employed.
but I can't help feeling guilty....
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:04 AM
Please don't feel guilty. It's fine for you to look for something better.
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Trinity 🍆
October 11, 2019 at 8:46 AM
UGH. I briefly woke up about an hour before I was supposed to get up for work with the thought of 'thank god it's the weekend' and then right after I remembered it was Friday. I sadly went back to sleep before being woken up by my alarm 😭
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM
I did the same thing this morning @trinpie! Except it was my usual time to get up. But I thought, "oh I don't have to get dressed right away because it's Saturday" - yeah!"
Then "oh crap it's only Friday!" 😭
I don't remember the last time I did that.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 8:58 AM
I hated being a contract employee forced to take time off. Good luck with the job hunt (unless there's a way to get an increase in salary where you are now?).
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 10:46 AM
Guess what happened after I wrote that post? I found out that not only did I get a raise - but I got what I asked for and not less!
Still I will keep looking because I have time, but now I feel more validated by the bosses boss. Now to have more paid time off when the company shuts down....
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shach
October 11, 2019 at 10:50 AM
Yay!!!
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 12, 2019 at 12:34 AM
That sounds like a step in the right direction. Congratulations on the raise!
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bluekitchen
October 11, 2019 at 9:32 AM
Sending lots of positive thoughts for your job search!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:43 AM
good luck!
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javinne
October 11, 2019 at 10:31 PM
I am with you. Also looking for better job, sometimes discouraged. Fighting!!!!
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growingbeautifully
October 12, 2019 at 1:22 AM
All the best to you @javinne. Hope you manage to find a better job!
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javinne
October 12, 2019 at 1:24 AM
Well, sometimes I feel I am a failure, but I don't let that feeling define me. I will be better and celebrate with you, guys! 😀😀😀😀😀😁
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stpauligurl
October 12, 2019 at 6:05 AM
@javinne - I know what you mean by feeling like a failure. I feel that way often, but I work hard to remind myself of all that I've accomplished work and life-wise..
Hang in there - let's both find the job that suits and supports us better.
Fighting!!!
3 Alessar
October 11, 2019 at 6:48 AM
Extra-ordinary You is fantastic. It's the most refreshing and fun show I've watched in ages. Get on it right away if you haven't already!!
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rue
October 11, 2019 at 7:06 AM
I've been hearing good things about this show but keep putting it off. Maybe I'll try it this weekend.
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Kurama
October 11, 2019 at 7:13 AM
I agree! I'm never bored during the episodes. It's very fun. The casting is great mostly Kim Hye Yoon and the scenery is beautiful.
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Johahaeyo
October 11, 2019 at 7:21 AM
I couldn’t agree more. The webtoon is amazing and I like how fast paced it is!!
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Chandler
October 11, 2019 at 8:26 AM
It's definitely my favorite airing show, along with When The Camellia Blooms. I'm enjoying Tale of Nokdu, but these are the shows that linger for me each week and make me want to discuss everything about them.
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4 WishfulToki
October 11, 2019 at 6:52 AM
I really enjoyed the premiere of MY COUNTRY. Hopefully the drama lives up to expectations!
I also started EXTRAORDINARY YOU due to fanwall raving. Beanies, I didn’t sleep last night. At first the blips gave me a headache, but once I got to Ep. 3 I understood what was going on, and ended up bingeing all episodes.
The BOF references are killing me. Candy is such a hopeless Candy. I howled into my pillow when the non-heroine set out to find The Guy by bumping into every guy’s back at school. For “research”. Why does this remind me of @yyishere’a Errand Boy Girl story so much? 😂
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 7:15 AM
Didn't @yyishere mention being inspired by Extraordinary You? I'm not sure but maybe ... It's one of the reasons I thought of trying this show, but I'm just worried I will not have the time. I'm starting to enter dotage or something and need to sleep more, like a baby! 😴 😔
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FlyingTool
October 11, 2019 at 9:06 AM
One of her vignettes was inspired by Extraordinary You.
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WishfulToki
October 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM
I know, but since @yyishere started writing her story before Extraordinary You premiered I'd believe it if it was the other way around.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
October 11, 2019 at 6:54 PM
Ahem. Extraordinary You and my story bore extraordinary similarities. I was gobsmacked when I watched it three weeks after writing my story. It proves that there are people out there who loathe the Candy Girl, portrayed with such amazing dumbness by the Candy Girl in Extraordinary You. She is the epitome of all that I hate about the Candy Girl: the sickening overdone cluelessness, the wide eyed innocence, the stoic "Bully me, please, I'm so worthless I deserve to be bullied, go on, bully me, I desperately want to be bullied." Gah. My latest chapter was inspired by the swoonworthy romance in Extraordinary You. They literally took my breath away.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:08 AM
It might be the drama that finally propels her into a rooftop room.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
October 11, 2019 at 6:57 PM
And...you are talking about me and my story. I am so moved I am crying cutely. I have impacted your lives. You love me. But guess what? All that love, and it makes no difference. I AM STILL STUCK RUNNING MY DAMN ERRANDS.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 12, 2019 at 12:31 AM
For which @egads is grateful. At least I think she is, when you show up quickly with hot food.
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Kurama
October 11, 2019 at 8:48 AM
Nobody can't resist to Dan Oh! She's the best heroine! The scene when she bumped in all the guys she could was so funny!
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:07 AM
As someone who couldn't stand BOF enough to make it past ep. 2, I wasn't that thrilled with Extraordinary You. I think it's just not for me. My Country was very impressive and I hope I can fortify myself to make it through to the end since I usually leave before the people I'm attached to die.
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mindy
October 11, 2019 at 9:11 AM
I like EY well enough but I have to admit the fever completely alludes me. Also, I have very little desire to watch this week's episodes...
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WishfulToki
October 11, 2019 at 11:31 AM
There are certain dramas that I'm glad I watched because (regardless of whether I enjoyed them or not) it allowed me to understand the parodies and meta in other dramas, such as BOF and SECRET GARDEN, or more recent ones such as GOBLIN and DOTS.
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 12:52 PM
Secret Garden was the first Korean drama I watched and have enjoyed all the meta references to it over the years. The same with BOF (though it wasn't in my top favorites), Goblin and DOTS and the parodies.
The references to BOF in EY is a little much for me, but I'm enjoying Dan Oh so much. Her first role in Sky Castle was good but we all hated her (until she changed at the end) and now we can all love her.
So I'm mostly into this show for her..
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Beverly
October 11, 2019 at 5:55 PM
When the one had to go play the violin in some random place when he really wanted to go talk to our heroine made me laugh.
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
October 11, 2019 at 7:09 PM
@bcampbell1662 The violin part was hilarious. It was a spoof of the violin-playing yellow-haired second lead. And then he started crying, and he looked so annoyed. But it got me, the part where he realises he likes the Candy Girl for real, and not because he's forced to like her. It broke my heart.
stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 9:07 PM
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 9:09 PM
OMO
oh no - I didn't catch that reference to BOF until just now reading it. gag
hahahhahhaha
Cocoa, The Fake Poet of February
October 11, 2019 at 12:54 PM
When you drama watch to help your drama watching...
The things we do for what we love...
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
October 11, 2019 at 6:58 PM
Is Jang hyuk an extra? It hurts watching him as an extra. If he were the lead, I would be watching this already.
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WishfulToki
October 11, 2019 at 8:42 PM
There are like 5 minutes of him in ep. 3, riding a horse and looking great. *cue me screaming* If he's an extra, he's a deadly handsome one who will take over the story -and history- once they give him more screen time (I'm all for it!)
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 12, 2019 at 12:16 AM
Woo Do Hwan with a mane of glory isn't enough?
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mango
October 12, 2019 at 3:00 AM
I think he will have a bigger role in the story. I mean, he's Yi Bang Won.
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5 korfan
October 11, 2019 at 6:55 AM
Hi Everyone! ..... I hope you are all doing well today.
The winds are intense and so are the wildfires in California. To all the Beanies in the area, I hope your homes and families are safe! Definitely be careful out there.
Secret Boutique - Didn't get to this one this week and I'm missing Sun-woo.
Melting Me Softly - Is it the directing? The editing? The sudden scenes where, seemingly out of no where, one of the characters blow dries his hair? It's all just so random!
Pegasus Market - The perplexed looks on everyone's faces when things that shouldn't work suddenly do are just too funny.
Vagabond - Barely on episode 3 and seriously, is there anyone in this show that is not of dubious character?
My Country - Oh so good! So very good!
Everyone take care and have a great Friday!
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 7:12 AM
Hi @korfan hope you're doing well too!
LOL about Pegasus Market. Those were my thoughts too when I watch that show and end up laughing out loud.
I'd like to start another show but I'm afraid that I don't have the time and will get frustrated. IE frustrated that I have to work instead of watch, or frustrated while I'm watching that I feel guilty! LOL.
Have a great weekend!
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 7:22 AM
@growingbeautifully, hello to you too! I also hope you're doing well today.
There are plenty of funny moments in Pegasus Market. The actors seem to have gone all in with this show .... they totally make it work.
I know what you mean about the time issues! It's the constant Beanie dilemma! Have a good weekend also.
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM
@korfan and @growingbeautifully - well you could have a life like mine, which is pretty much nothing now that the gardening season is almost done.
I work, go home, get stuff done then watch my dramas....
hmm that sounds kind of pathetic to be honest...
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 8:01 AM
Heheheh! @stpauligurl That's called life as we know it! 😂
korfan
October 11, 2019 at 8:21 AM
@stpauligurl Sounds pretty good to me!
rue
October 11, 2019 at 7:13 AM
Pegasus Market - I love those looks! I'm also never sure if I'm happy or not when it works. Whose side am I on? Do I really want the president to turn the mart into a bomb because I'm upset he was unfairly treated?? Do I want it to succeed so they regret firing him?? I don't know!
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 7:36 AM
@rueffie I know! Heh!
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
October 11, 2019 at 8:12 AM
Don't worry about catching up with Secret Boutique. We only got 1 episode this week. [Pout]
Happy Friday!
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 8:26 AM
@msrabbit Oh ok. I won't feel so bad then. I've only watched up to episode 4 so I'm going to try and catch up this weekend .... hopefully!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:47 AM
My Country is what i've been looking for in a sageuk. Tale of Nokdu is good but My Country has that gravitas thing happening...and not a stolen baby prince in sight.
Are you not watching Miss Lee?
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 10:00 AM
@scifiwritir My Country, with just two episodes, is working on so many levels, isnt' it? It's just hitting all the right spots. I hope it holds up until the very end.
Not watching Miss Lee at the moment. How is it?
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 10:04 AM
Me too!
Miss Lee is basically slice of life attempted company take-down with a nod to the employment crisis. Some drama tropes but the tropes and characters feel more realistic.
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Midnight
October 12, 2019 at 3:57 AM
Nokdu's Flower DRAINED me. I loved it but I won't be able to repeat that experience any time soon. I guess My Country is very similar in tone?
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owl 🦉 🫰
October 11, 2019 at 11:33 AM
Hi korfan, I agree My Country is really good - the acting is phenomenal. I’m inexplicably sympathetic toward Do Hwan I Shoot Arrows Only For Myself. Of course I’m anticipating more Jang Hyuk when history catches up.
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 4:18 PM
Hi @owl22! It's quite good indeed. There hasn't been a dull moment so far. I hope this continues until the end. Also looking forward to Jang Hyuk!
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6 shach
October 11, 2019 at 7:00 AM
Hello everyone, hope you will have better weekend than me, as I have to work this Saturday :/
The beginning of the end of "Supernatural" kicked off, I can't belive I spend with this show 15 yrs!!! I tried to stop many times and in the end always came back to it.
And what a bitter laugh I have over NBA/Blizzard kerfuffle, is this so called "The Streisend Effect"?
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 7:33 AM
Have a good day at work @shach!
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7 wapz
October 11, 2019 at 7:00 AM
Extra ordinary you is so good. And it's probably the only show where I think the English title is better than the literal korean title. Since I have nothing to watch on weekends, I spend my entire weekend thinking how good it is until Mon/Tue comes and Tale of Nokdu reminds me that it is great and enjoyable too. I am in a rom com drama heaven but weekends are very empty. I'm afraid to spoil my light mood by watching My Country but the reviews here are quite good.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:19 AM
My Country hurts already. I'm liking Flower Crew too. It's light so far.
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8 cat-cric-kat
October 11, 2019 at 7:07 AM
I don't Love you Yet DVD Box 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AY3IJHnCaY Just 2 minute video
1st time in a while when not watching more than 1 Kdrama.
Someone was talking about anti-abortion what about this twist in Trash Show now? with or against?
We have access to all basic human needs and to top it off we have quality internet and spend considerable time watching plastic faces so least we talk about privilege the better.
Someone shared an article discussing a book and that book got review where critique made the point that author had lack of knowledge of K industry - frominterview too
INSKEEP: I think I hear you saying that K-pop is - just as there is state-directed capitalism, this was kind of state-directed culturalism.
BHUTTO: Yes. And it's very capitalistic in the sense that it's industrialized. So Korean music studios spend years and hundreds of thousands of dollars training their K-pop stars. They will spend, I mean, maybe three years, five years learning how to sing, how to speak different languages, how to talk, how to dance, how to do everything before you've ever even heard of them.
With K-pop, it’s difficult to gauge whether more plastic goes into cosmetic surgery for the performers or in manufacturing the music itself.
The book’s final layover in Seoul unfortunately reduces Bhutto to a cultural tourist, with her account of the K-pop industry relying more on existing documentation than first-hand reporting. This is a shame, since the subject is nearly as rich and far more relevant in East Asia. South Korea’s entertainment industry has generated momentum comparable to the nation’s hard manufacturing, often employing the same brutal, calculated efficiency.
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9 growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 7:07 AM
Hi Everyone and Happy OT!
How have you all been? I've been more busy and tired and found myself without mood or energy to come visit here at DB as much as I used to. That is soooooo rare for me!!! I could only concentrate on 1 show. Also very rare for me!
I've finished watching The Untamed, thanks to the raves of Beanies and am very glad I did! It's not the usual genre or choice for me, so I took a leap of faith and decided to try it. I can see (and feel) why it was such a crack show, however I've resisted going totally down the rabbit hole of re-watching, catching all the vids or reading everything online about the story/plot/characters. I did read a bit and asked my friend, @Snickers for info on parts that I did not understand, but I've been a good girl and done my work instead of going back to the drama. (Heh!)
However, I can still hear the stirring OST in my head. So much pathos, longing and possibilities for a better tomorrow. Loved it!
Production-wise, I know there was trouble and it wasn't easy, so although I have to say that lots could have been better, I do appreciate that it was not always possible. I'm sure even the Production Team knew that it would have been better to have shown more of the backstories of the side characters and of the villains even, instead of being told (too much exposition), or that the futures of our beloved 'heroes' would bear some fleshing out. (The zombie times could have been more than halved!) Some episodes were sorely in need of a great deal of editing, etc.
But the good stuff was great and done so well. The satisfying plot progression, the meticulous detail and costumes, the colour and scenery, the music, and the chemistry between characters was what made this show so addictive.
So now I've to gather my energies and get back into Camellia Blooms and Pegasus Market. It's going to be a busy weekend with nice shows to watch!! Yay!
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 7:52 AM
Have a good weekend and enjoy the drama-watching!
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
October 11, 2019 at 8:09 AM
Hwaiting!
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Trinity 🍆
October 11, 2019 at 8:55 AM
You are stronger then me! I've already rewatched it and now in the process of reading the book.
And the drama definitely had it's flaws. I also had to consult people because there are some things in the drama that seems to rely on you having read the book. But despite its flaws, I love the drama so much because of the feels it gave me. It is my favorite drama for that alone.
And the OST and the use of music in the drama was absolutely superb. That was definitely something the drama didn't falter on.
Glad you liked it though! 😁
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM
Yes, the feels made me fall in love with this show. The OST, 'Innocence', I believe it's called, really hits in the gut (or heart!), reminding us viewers, what our hero sacrificed and the hardship he went through, just because he really is a noble guy who wanted to stick to his principles and have a clear conscience, on top of loving his people. To see him stand up and continue on regardless, despite the unfair accusations thrown at him and the misunderstandings of even his closest friends, breaks my heart.
With every excuse to turn away from his difficult path, he still trudged on. And so the resolution is that much more satisfying. Hence our great regard for this show.
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shach
October 11, 2019 at 9:10 AM
I understand you so well, I loved it, watched intreviews with cast and BTS but I have no desire to rewatch it or read the novel, I love to follow Beanies fan walls posts, and I'll check actors new projects but that's it for me.
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javinne
October 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM
So good review about the Untamed! Thank you very much. I have heard so good comments about it that it makes me curious, but as you said to yourself, it is not "my genre".
Sadly, I don't have time... And I am watching miss Lee and want to start with Pegasus Market just in order not to miss a little bit the collective fun while it's airing, but maybe one day.... maybe I will try the Untamed😉
Happy weekend.
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10 Lixie
October 11, 2019 at 7:14 AM
Hello Beanies!
Can anyone tell me what happened in the eps 5-10 of Strangers? I don't care about these characters so I just want to know the short version. The cast was good but story could not keep my interest. If he's so smart he would just go away, if he's becoming mad it's not so nicely done, better watch Black Swan, Repulsion or Joker.
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cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 8:31 AM
I would also like the short version! I followed until I was sincerely worried he was just going to become a serial murderer... then I waited and watched the ending. It didn't exactly reassure hahahaha.
THERE ARE SPOILERS BELOW THIS SINCE THE RECAPS AREN'T OUT.
I'm gonna try and make this longer though, so the spoilers don't just show and it gets a "show more" curtain. Haha I haven't even seen all of the last few episodes either since I was scared (but I might go back and watch them more carefully now).
My understanding? The gosiwon kind of starts to break down/get exposed, the police find a body in the mountains and connect the dots, our Main Boy's girlfriend gets kidnapped, and he goes in to save her. Cue some confusion, everyone dies and he and she are saved. It seems like they all killed each other and they survived by chance... until the last 10 minutes, when they replay that last scene and you realize it was the Dentist who had wormed his way into our main boy's mind so much he tells him "kill everyone and I'll let you live". ... so he does. And they live, but our boy is secretly now crazy and maybe still hearing murderous voices. The Endㅠㅠ
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 8:49 AM
Yep you got it @cozybooks in a very simple but clear condensation of the story.
I thought the show was brilliantly done in every way....
Don't know why, but I was surprised at the ending. And that is a good thing!
One of the best OCN dramas I've seen so far.
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cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 1:01 PM
Hey thanks! And yeah, I really didn't see that ending coming. I don't know how I feel about it (I'm not usually a fan of morally gray heroes etc.) But it did spur a lot of interesting thoughts about how far he can be held accountable for his actions. I mean, if I were put in a similar situation I know what I hope I'd do... but I don't know. And would that change if they were different people? (in my opinion, yes).
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Lixie
October 11, 2019 at 9:33 AM
That's a nice ending! Thanks @cozybooks
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Lixie
October 11, 2019 at 9:35 AM
What's in it for the dentist? All he wanted was the experience of making a guy go crazy? Did he go to another shabby place?
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 12:56 PM
And that - my fellow beanie - is what they left us with... very open-ended with questions..
Like a good Hitchcock movie like The Birds - stuff happened that didn't make sense, then it was all over with no reason.
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Lixie
October 11, 2019 at 2:21 PM
I think The Birds isn't really open ended, there is a fantastical event but the causes are not important for the theme. And I think Hitch would be not amused by the comparison heheheheh.
In Strangers the plot kept hinting they would tell us the motivation behind the dentist and his gang but I could feel the drama was all about being creepy and sinister but didn't really have a background story which is the reason why I lost interest.
stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 4:52 PM
If you watch the Birds - no one knows why they suddenly started to attack the people in the town. At the end, when they drove away we still didn't know why.
One thing I read about that movie that made it unique was there was no musical sound track. I had to go back and rewatch it. It truly was a masterpiece of suspense and not knowing what was going to happen or why. In the end we were just happy that they were able to escape from that house. to this day I can't see a lot of crows in one place without thinking of that movie.
But Strangers from Hell - yes you may be right that there were hints about the orphanage and the connection between all the characters. I guess I was just so transfixed by how they were telling the story that it didn't bother me so much.
Yes, no one was fully explained, except possibly Jung woo - and in his case we could see he definitely had some latent anger issues.
It would have been nice to have everything explained, but sometimes things happen and we never know why. And people are horrible and evil and we never know why...
In this case that part of the writing didn't bother me, and maybe because I was so enamored with how creepy it was.
Lixie
October 11, 2019 at 5:08 PM
@stpauligurl
Yes, but The Birds isn't about the reason why birds went into crazy mode. That's just the event that starts the story. I'd even say explaining would take away from the meaning behind the film.
Strangers is the opposite of that because many times the scenes were built to tell us hints about the relationships between the murderers and it went on to show the dentist as if he were Hannibal Lecter. It's like Silence of the Lambs if we never knew what Hannibal planned to do, it would make no sense. I'm glad I dropped it, even though it had a decent ending for the main character it seems to have dragged the plot.
stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 5:22 PM
@lixie
What you are saying makes sense. But for me sometimes it's okay for it not to make sense.
Maybe the reason I'm continuing is that so many times in movies and dramas we see the why things happened the way we do. To know that gives the viewer a certain sense of comfort. "Ah... that is why..."
But what I liked about Strangers was that at the end, we were still left with
"what the hell just happened?" And sometimes it's okay not to know...
Granted maybe they shouldn't have put in those little nuggets to whet our appetite to know more - and maybe the writer wasn't sure how to end it - but for me, sometimes (only sometimes) is it okay to be left thinking "What?"
Like was that all a dream? Then we are left thinking about the story. It's easier to tie a story up in a neat little bow with all the i's dotted and the t's crossed - but sometimes the story itself becomes the core.
I don't know if I'm making sense - but I did like the open ended finish where I scratched my head thinking "what?" but it got me thinking about the nature of evil.
Is it born, or developed?
Ms. Rabbit 🐇
October 11, 2019 at 10:11 PM
What about the police lady seeing a glimpse of him in the hospital elevator? If he's just in JW's mind, how come she can see him? Or did MJ also morphed into her mind?
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11 Kairoskat 💐
October 11, 2019 at 8:05 AM
Happy day all! I hope everyone had a great week and hopefully will have an awesome weekend.
I read an article that made me root for SSR more in kdramaland. To more roles and more dramas!!
Shin Sung Rok - from "unknown" actor to participation in 25-billion-won blockbuster "Vagabond"
https://channels.vlive.tv/C7A6F1/vtoday/1.11973952
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12 cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 8:14 AM
Good morning everyone! Ahahahaha I should really be paying attention in my physics class right now, but I wanted to stop by and say hello^^ The weather is finally turning cold here, I was able to step in cruchy ice-grass this morning (I'm so excited for snow)! Perfect drama weather. I'm *dying* watching tale of Nokdu, it's hilarious. And Melting Me Softly? I didn't realize how much I'd needed Ji Chang Wook back in my life, lol. Thank heavens army is only 2 years. Hope everyone's having a good Friday! Fighting!
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:24 AM
It's nice seeing JCW again.
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Mel
October 11, 2019 at 10:40 AM
Fighting in Physics! And every other class!
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cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 12:57 PM
Hahaha thanks... but especially physics. Did you know electrons only emit light when they go down to a lower energy orbit? But they're not really orbits at all, and high school lied to us... they're really waves. And so are we all. ㅠㅠㅠㅠ It's been a party.
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Mel
October 11, 2019 at 1:36 PM
What?! They are not orbits?!? Hmmm if they are waves then.... I think I’ll need a drawing to understand 🤔
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cozybooks
October 11, 2019 at 8:43 PM
You and me both. ㅠㅠ I felt so betrayed! They're these things called standing waves, and the "orbital" is actually just a probability pattern of showing where they *might* be at any given time. Also, particles are also waves/have wave properties. Things like humans etc. are just so big and you'd have to wait so long and move so slowly to observe it it's kind of a moot point.
...I stopped trying to understand it, just decided the universe if big and weird and cool.
Mel
October 12, 2019 at 12:53 AM
LOL yes the universe is cool and mysterious! Your explanation of these "orbital"s is also pretty interesting :)
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13 Ms. Rabbit 🐇
October 11, 2019 at 8:18 AM
Happy Friday, beanie! Busy weekends for me, so you'll see me popping up more often at DB. Huh?😮 That's right. I'd rather be here than somewhere else I have to be. Will probably be behind on my dramas. Oh well... Have a great weekends! 😄
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Ms. Rabbit 🐇
October 11, 2019 at 8:21 AM
Oh, forgot to say thank you for all your brilliant suggestion for noble causes on my wall. I ❤ them all. 😍
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14 Trinity 🍆
October 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM
It's finally Friday. Took long enough to get here!
Arsenal Military Academy Love this one. The characters in this are all so much fun and the actors all do a great job with their characters. It's full of comedy, action, and fun that keeps you watching.
My Girlfriend Is An Alien This initially started really cute but around episode 15 or so it just started draaaagging until the end. Way too many tropes. Amnesia, disapproving parents, love-triangles, noble idiots, separation, etc.. All the tropes derailed the romance for way too long to the point where I just lost interest. FL kept denying ML for some reason even after he had confessed. Wish it had stayed cute and fun from beginning to end. Both the main actors did a good job though and would like to see them in more dramas.
Love O2O Finally managed to force myself to finish it. It was bad. The main characters and a lot of the side characters were either unlikeable or boring. Both main actors were bad. Yang Yang, learn how to use micro-expressions and Zheng Shuang, learn how to act. Even though there was 'drama' there really wasn't any. The main characters were too perfect that you knew everything was going to resolve itself perfectly. And they did. Also, the kisses were things of nightmares that I don't think I'll ever recover from. I don't suggest this to anyone.
Love O2O The Movie I wanted to compare the 2 so I watched the movie. The main actors were 1000X better then their drama counterparts and their characters actually had personalities. And
Jing BoRan is way better looking then Yang Yang. The story flew by so you didn't get really any character building or much plot development, but you still had better chemistry between the leads. I wish the characters and actors from the movie were in the drama. Because overall the story in the drama was entertaining, it was just the bad characters and actors that made me not like it. And the kiss was super hot, not the fuel of nightmares like in the drama.
Off to my Mom's for the weekend to finish watching Rookie Historian Goo Hae-Ryung. I have no idea what drama we should start next.
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shach
October 11, 2019 at 9:14 AM
I'm glad you like AMA, it's hilarious and Xu Kai has great comic timing, I loved him with actress who play Gu Manting, they have the best banter.
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Trinity 🍆
October 11, 2019 at 9:24 AM
I love all the characters and Gu Manting is great! The cast all seem to have great chemistry together. I know Xu Kai and Bai Lu are good friends irl which makes sense as they were in 2 dramas together back-to-back. And I think this role was written for Xu Kai as he is perfect. He did a great job in Yanxi Palace and The Legends but he is just so good as Gu YanZheng.
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shach
October 11, 2019 at 9:36 AM
I love how GM is basically a mirror of GY! And although she is a second lead who pursue ML she isn't typically vilified but is an awsome character in her own rights, and Shen Ting Bai, who believes women has right to her own choices no matter how much he loves her, the writing of the characters is just amazing.
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Trinity 🍆
October 11, 2019 at 9:45 AM
Yes! Even Shen TingBai is great. At first I thought he was going to be the typical badass bad-guy type character but as the drama progressed I realized he is so good towards GM and I really want them to end up together. He is patient and respectful towards her choices and decisions even if they hurt him.
Totally agree! All the characters, even if they are small characters, seem to be so well written and fantastic.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 10:52 AM
I had to google Jing Boran. Hmmm....why are there so many good looking and hot C actors?
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Trinity 🍆
October 11, 2019 at 10:56 AM
Because we are blessed? ☺️
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 1:00 PM
Because the photographers do a good job with their photos. Yes they are good looking but I bet they are just handsome on the street.
But yes he is gorgeous isn't he? Heck most of them are just heart fluttering for me.....
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 4:55 PM
I knew a man once who was rather odd looking. He had a long narrow face and I always wondered what his wife saw in him.
Then I saw a photo of him - and he photographed well - some people just do well in front of the camera and others don't photograph well no matter how hard you try. My mom was one who though beautiful, just did NOT take good photos - unless she didn't know I was taking her picture.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 7:01 PM
Yes, a good photographer can make a person look better but for actors, they are filmed so if they look good onscreen, they should look much better in person. They also get photographed so much so it can't be that they only look good from one angle or only when photographed by pros.
I have several opportunities to look at K actors up close because Singapore is quite a popular place to hold fanmeets but I've never been to one. I've only seen two because I just happened to be at the shopping mall where they held the public event - LMH and Joo Won.I'm definitely not a fan but they looked stunning in person.
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 9:10 PM
That is good to know that they are as stunning in real life as on the screen.
halfmoon
October 11, 2019 at 3:41 PM
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October 11, 2019 at 3:42 PM
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javinne
October 11, 2019 at 10:45 PM
Wow, strong review against love 020... I actually liked it, although true, the kisses were horrible and did not transmit almost any emotion, but I didn't have much against 90% of the characters being like you said "too much perfect"; it was at least a story that led me a nice sensation, because the leads had high moral and family values that I wish my own family would have had. Our own life would have been less painful if so... (Just personal reflection... never mind)
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Trinity 🍆
October 12, 2019 at 3:40 PM
It was a pretty popular drama and was really well liked so I'm not surprised if people disagree with my opinion. Which is fine! 😁 I was overall fine with the plot and story, just couldn't get over how unbelievably boring the leads were because of the poor actors + how perfect and bland their characters were.
I'm glad you liked it though!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 12, 2019 at 4:02 PM
You're not alone, I really disliked it.
For a start the skinship scenes were framed like he was assaulting her. If that wasn't bad enough, the show could never handle her being better than him at anything because she's the girl. So whatever she was good at, he had to be better. To the point where he was ridiculous.
And the underlying message was "gamers can be perfect exemplars of Chinese womanhood too!"
It started off okay but by the end I was grimacing.
I haven't seen the movie.
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javinne
October 12, 2019 at 10:29 PM
Beanies, I got that too, and I didn't like that either. I am too much of a feminist to be able to tolerate these kind of assault-approaches, and I also felt the bad acting. But again, the eye candi won me over with Yang Yang because he is absolute gorgeous (for the 20-years old me), and even though he was too perfect, he was never a jerk, so within the frame of the story, I let it pass.
It was a fantasy, no man can be that perfect,, even if he is handsome, I know. But I suppose we wish we could find one, and then it wouldn't matter if he does almost everything better 😂😂😂😂😂, because since he is perfect, he wouldn't boast about it or treat the others as if they are less. In a perfect society, life is not a competition.
Oh, and by the way, yang yang didn't know how to cook in the story, LOL...
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 12, 2019 at 10:38 PM
Don't get me started!
I think the writers said, "oh no, we need to give him a flaw" and so they're like "oh, he can't cook". And then even her Dad's like, "that just means you'll be doing all the housework!"
I mean they'd be dating for all of a week and she was already stuck in the game raising their pet offspring while he went off to work.
javinne
October 12, 2019 at 10:53 PM
Lol, true! I know, I know... the feminist in me rebels against it too. She didn't have much of a personality, except for being a good gamer, a very smart student and good temper girl, but in regard to dating a guy (let's day any guy), since she was in love, then she had no words. I know, and I didn't feel identified with such submission at all, but then again... I let it pass because it kind of suited her.
I really didn't focus so much in the romantic relationship because as you all said, it was bland.
For me, the highlight of this show was the friendship and the family relationships. I liked that, I could see and feel the principles, and I liked that. Also, parts were funny, and again, overall it gives us the vibe of a perfect fantasy world, which I dream one day will happen (not that way) in the future. (Personal long story)....
But yes, anyway, in regard to the romance, it was bland and the kisses and skinship was horrible 😂😂😂😂
potter
October 13, 2019 at 5:30 PM
About her being stuck raising their virtual pets. To be fair, she was on summer vacation while he was starting a company. These type of video game chores seem to take a good amount of time. Based on his personality, I'm sure he would share the load if she had asked.
Awkward skinship. Could be the actors. The leads were often criticized for their stiff acting. Could also be a "social decency" issue. Dating before adulthood is banned in schools in China. The characters were like role-models for viewers. They never dated before and shouldn't be experienced with intimate physical contact.
If memory serves, soon after this drama's airing, the regulators issued the "no action below the neck" rule and kissing should not be too passionate or too long.
What did kind of bug me was that we know he had a vision but we have no idea about what she wanted out of life.
booming system up up
October 12, 2019 at 11:21 PM
I completely agree with you about Love O2O, the leads were too perfect and weren't even entertaining to watch, they had like no personality. Plus it was the first C Drama I watched so the dubbing bothered me so much. Because of this show I had given up on C dramas.
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15 CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:08 AM
Hey there, everyone:
I've spent the month being sweetly tolerated by my hubby. i keep feeling th4 winter will be a nasty one so i've gone wild buying winterizing stuff, clothing, and gear..plus buying extra foods just in case we get a really icy winter. i feel like a flaky jamaican prepper.
Dramas:
Tale of Nokdu -- Widow Kim is not just a throwaway disguise. There's something so real and unique about her. When the hero finally has to drop that persona, I'm gonna miss Widow Kim. Kudos to the writer, director, and actor for creating such a great character in the Tale of Nokdu
When the Camellia Blooms -- Strange how many secrets there really are in this gossipy town. It's like we're working with two spectrums and their various permutations: what is truth and what is love? What do we know and who are we responsible for? Dong Baek's employee is not a true friend to Dong Baek and i'm hoping our heroine realizes that desperation for friendship made her make a bad choice. Hoping the dementia mom's secret is good.
Extraordinary You -- Kyung is seriously abusive, and potentially, he could become a very dark figure because of all the pain he's going through.
Miss Lee -- Is it me but do all the cold male leads in rom-coms seem seriously cruel this season? The demoted/transferred accountant/business wrangler is so cold. hoping there is no romance and if he is...he better get warmer.
Am liking the honesty shown in these business dramas although i think Strangers from Hell was too cynical for me. I hate nihilism.
Vagabond -- This feels a bit over-the-top and unbelievable.
Melting Me Softly-- Not bad, not super. But it's just begun. I'll enjoy the noona romance for a while until he falls out of love for whatever. She's experienced so much in life and he is still relatively young.
Pegasus Market 4 -- Bring on the silly!
Have a great weekend, all!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:10 AM
ooh, i thought this article was interesting. http://koreabizwire.com/s-korea-to-ban-men-with-domestic-violence-record-from-marrying-immigrants/
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM
Now I want to see the drama or maybe the reality show Flaky Jamaican Prepper.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:36 AM
Hubby has to cut up some logs in the back yard. I'm buying Jamaican teas, coconut water, spices, sour sop juice, and hand-cranked lamps and radios like they're going out of style. And socks and headwraps...lawdy, the headwraps. Whatever happens, my head will be warm.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:43 AM
My favorites are silk long underwear and plug in rechargeable flashlights. Hmm, maybe I need a headwrap.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:53 AM
lol! They are super helpful and keep the head super warm. LED mobile-sensitive lights are great too just in case we get a black out. I've got a solar hand-cranked radio and tons of cat litter.
stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 1:01 PM
layers - always dress in layers.....
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 11, 2019 at 9:40 AM
omigosh, i forgot about My Country. That is one of my fave new dramas. Gotta say though that that bromance broke up pretty dang early. I was expecting the love to continue for a while
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 11, 2019 at 9:45 AM
Me too. More has happened in 2 episodes of My Country than happened in 18 of Arthdal.
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM
@ndlessjoie So true.
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 8:32 PM
The pacing is at breakneck speed in My Country! It’s the antithesis of Arthdal.
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 10:29 AM
@scifiwritir Nothing wrong with buying all the winter stuff! It's always best to be prepared because you just never know.
Nokdu and Camellia are just going to have to be added to my "watch later" list because I just can't seem to get to these two shows. They both sound so good though!
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16 Ally
October 11, 2019 at 9:36 AM
It took me a while debating on if to write on the open thread today, because 1. I have so many other things I should be doing instead, and 2. I think people are tired of hearing about The Untamed, which I started this week, for the pretty boys. (I may be a bit ashamed of this. HA!)
I did see two blasts from my past this week and had a pretty heinous week at work, but all is well that ends well, right? I saw two men, I guess I have to call them that, that I had met in my late teens-early 20's this week, who both remembered me, for better or worse. One was another doctor who I had met when we were both in training in the military. This person saw my intense physical and mental struggles for a month in training, and somehow made it out with me. Also, this is where I met my husband. He has 6 kids now and living in Florida, but was somehow here doing a program for a drug company. The US military and especially docs in the military is a small group, so it's not surprising we would see each other, but here, in my town, where no one comes unless you have family here, was not where I expected to see him again. A conference in some metropolitan area, sure. My first floor office? Not really. Anyway, it was a crazy day in clinic that day, but when he showed up, it was a welcome respite, despite me running further behind.
The second person I literally ran into on my way out of a breakfast meeting downtown. Like a heroine in my own drama running into the main male lead, except I'm happily married with kids and he is too. But it was a guy I had a secret crush on in college. I when I saw him I thought to myself, "Damn, I had good taste," because he looked even better now than he did then. Muscular, but not too muscular, sandy grey hair with smile lines that peaked behind his very cool glasses. Anyway, I was on my way to work, and he was as well. Neither one of us had any time to give out our personal information (and neither of us had any professional cards on us either), so I was just hi and goodbye, how are you doing, have a nice life, I'll have to look you up sometime and get together, but I'll probably never intentionally see you again, type conversation. But did I tell you all I really have good taste in men? My old college boyfriend is still lean and muscular too. Goodness me, now you know why I watch kdramas and cdramas. LOL.
Speaking of, I watched The UNTAMED until episode 7 and MY COUNTRY this week. Wow. I think I'm in heaven with both of these. So much eye candy, so little time to appreciate it all. But really, the acting is really good too (you believe me, right?). And also emotionally satisfying, all of it.
No conversation today. I have several things on my plate right now! I hope everyone stays safe this week!
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growingbeautifully
October 11, 2019 at 9:45 AM
Hi @ally-le. Hope your busy week still gives you a chance to rest!
Absolutely emotionally satisfying is the reason I stayed through the not so good bits (with some FFDing!) to the end with The Untamed.
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 9:21 PM
Busy is my normal nowadays. *sigh* I’d rather be busy than not though😊.
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Trina
October 11, 2019 at 10:26 AM
You are very lucky. To meet them again. As for me, I would be sure if I want to meet men’s from my past. LOL Because, they are either be bad looking or good looking. I had very high expectations of what I like in guy. My hubby is totally opposite what I like in a guy. LOL
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 9:24 PM
My husband is totally not perfect either, but I’ll take him over almost anyone else...except Gong Yoo, of course. 😜
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javinne
October 11, 2019 at 10:48 PM
LOL. Does he know that???? 😂😂😂😂😂
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 10:50 AM
Wow! @ally-le sounds like you had a great week! I have not ran into many of the more 'memorable' male friends or crushes from my younger days. And the recent one I met was someone who still made me cringe whenever I thought of him.
Glad to hear you are enjoying The Untamed. If you already like it now, you will love it even more.
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 8:52 PM
There are certainly those I’d rather not meet, but most of my male relationships are platonic, so nothing crazy embarrassing or cringe-worthy usually occur in those. I like to leave that in my kdramas and far away from real life!
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 11, 2019 at 9:14 PM
Argh....I should have expressed myself better. The cringe was for myself because I kicked him by accident and let's just say I was very happy to see he has two sons.
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Mel
October 11, 2019 at 10:55 AM
Hi Ally! I’m glad you chose to write. Your stories are always so interesting. I really love reading them though I seldom have things to comment. I’m more of a reading and liking posts to show support kind of beanie. Hope your busy day will fly past and you’ll get to enjoy your time off with more eye candy 🍭! Hwaiting!
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 9:11 PM
Haven’t gotten any candy 🍭 yet. But yes. Always Fighting!
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KSKalways
October 11, 2019 at 11:05 AM
this is probably the 1st time I've heard of someone bump into an ex and think to themselves, "hmmm... I have great taste!".
HA HA HA HA
Brilliant! Best attitude to have !
have a good weekend, @ally-le
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 8:40 PM
He was just a crush and actually not an ex. He was just normal-looking in college. But he had that something—charisma, sincerity, thoughtfulness—and he was a really hard worker. Anyway, some people just age well, and he was one of them! And yeah, when I see people I liked doing well, I’m usually not jealous, I just know I saw their potential and if life happened to put us together, it would have been just fine. It’s being content in my own life too. If I was miserable, I’d probably hate their guts!
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17 Trina
October 11, 2019 at 10:20 AM
TGIF!!! It has been a heck of a week for me. Therefore, I hope date night tonight is good. We are also celebrating our 15 wedding anniversary. It was on Wednesday but we are busy that day. Therefore, hubby and I are just going out for dinner tonight. Thanks to my younger sister babysitting. Although, my teenager son do not need it but oh well. LOL He can help his aunt. LOL
I am one episode behind of Tale of Nokdu. I am behind with others.
Other than that, I hope everyone have a Good Friday!!! Also, please give us some rain dance as it is HOT, Windy and Dry weather in Southern California. This is worst for those who have allergies like me. 😢
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korfan
October 11, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Happy 15th Anniversary to you and your husband! :)
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Trina
October 11, 2019 at 11:02 AM
Thank you!!!
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tsutsuloo
October 11, 2019 at 10:40 AM
Congratulations on your anniversary! The interwebs say crystal was the traditional gift for 15 years. (Who decides that, anyway?) Do you still exchange gifts for your anniversaries? My husband and I don't but I certainly wouldn't mind tickets to Hamilton. Just saying.
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Trina
October 11, 2019 at 11:07 AM
Good Luck getting tickets to see Hamilton. From what I heard, it is a lotto getting tickets to see it. We do not exchange gifts. It is little things that counts most. I kept a clean house and cook dinner almost every night for him. LOL I went to see Miss Saigon which is amazing last week with my best friend and went out for dinner night before with girl friend while he take care of the kids. Little things like this is what we do for each other and keep our marriage alive. Ahem sex helps too.😉😉😉
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stpauligurl
October 11, 2019 at 1:05 PM
Happy Anniversary - I hope you have a wonderful night out - but mostly stay safe. Watching the news of the fires, heat and winds is so scary - even from the PNW!!!
I'd send you some of our rain, but we haven't had much for awhile....
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 4:32 PM
Congratulations! 🍾🎉🎈🎊 Have fun on your date!
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18 Baby Panda
October 11, 2019 at 12:06 PM
I am in love with my current foster kitten. I named this pile of orange fluff Cupid (because he shot an arrow through my heart) and he is such a lap kitten! He loves to follow humans around and sit on our laps for cuddles. I just wish he eats more and will gain some weight.
Back to drama viewing:
why woman kill (U.S.): my guilty pleasure. It's got very similar storylines to Desperate Housewives and Devious Maids (same creator), but is done pretty interestingly.
father is strange: at halfway mark and still enjoying it thoroughly. I will miss the Byun family when I'm done. A very heartwarming, entertaining series for those who haven't checked it out yet.
Flying Tigers II: think i'm going to drop this. I like the actors but the storyline is kind of boring. Will turn my attention to Barrack O'Karma instead. Why the strange title, does anyone know?
Finished:
Hotel del Luna: so good! loved IU and her extravagant outfits!
Watcher: a little disappointed by pace of the drama. thought it could've been better.
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Baby Panda
October 11, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Movies:
Extreme Job, Exit and Aladdin: All three movies were very entertaining and well-made, and worth a watch or two.
Naomi Scott, the actress who plays Jasmine in Aladdin is stunning!
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javinne
October 11, 2019 at 10:50 PM
I sooo much envy any person who has either a cat or a dog at home!!!! I wish I could.
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Bob
October 12, 2019 at 9:40 AM
If you're at the halfway mark on 'Father Is strange' you probably haven't discovered yet WHY father is strange. So don't give up! There's more story to go!
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19 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 11, 2019 at 2:37 PM
Morning Beans I'm still looking for information on what episode the first OTP kiss happened in any drama (but probably more Korean).
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJPXB7D
Any drama you can think of, as old or new as possible.
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Ally
October 11, 2019 at 4:39 PM
Done. (Goblin)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 11, 2019 at 4:50 PM
Really, why Goblin?
*emoticon of innocent expression*
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20 Debra
October 11, 2019 at 8:01 PM
I really miss the comments from Javabeans and Girlfriday. Am I the only one who remembers them? Dramabeans isn't the same anymore without their input.
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21 MikeyD signed up
October 12, 2019 at 9:37 AM
I've been trying to spread the K-drama gospel among the heathens on U.S. entertainment sites that are covering (and praising) the movie 'Parasite'. But its an uphill battle, between Americans' innate fear of subtitles and their preference for superhero franchise movies. I have friends who will refuse categorically to watch subtitled movies but watch English speaking TV with the closed captioning on.
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