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Open Thread #625

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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TGIF, at last! I hope everyone's had a good week so far. Sometimes I find it so difficult to get through the school week! Thank goodness it's finally over.

We don't have seasons where I live, so I can't quite join in on the internet's enthusiasm for Autumn and Halloween, but I am thrilled we're inching closer to Christmas. My favourite time of the year!

I also wanted to ask:

Beanies who cookโ€”What are your favourite dishes to make for a party that are relatively stress-free and not too fussy? It could be pretty much any cuisine and any type of dish. I'm just curious and in need of some new ideas.

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I usually make spaghetti with meat sauce if it's just my girlfriends coming over, or barbeque wings, or korean fried chicken(with or without gochujang) and potato wedges if it's more people

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korean fried chicken is so delicious! do you deep-fry your chicken? I loooove fried chicken, but I'm apprehensive about deep-frying because I'm always concerned about what to do with all the leftover frying oil.

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I usually deep fry it then bottle up the oil and reuse it. I don't know if it's allowed by those that allow or forbid these things but I'm still alive so **shrug**. I've also oven-baked the wings when I'm going through my "healthy periods" then poured a glaze/rolled them in a paste I found in Maangchi's youtube videos.

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You can reuse the oil. But for deep frying use a palm oil which can hold higher temperature. Heat an empty pan first, then when it's hot add the oil. You know it's ready if you stick a chopstick in and bubbles form around it. If it's very hot then there's less chance the batter falls off and muddies oil. If it does, strain the oil. Just store oil for fish/meat in difft jars bec oil used for fish will make other meats taste fishy. And don't let fried food sit on paper towels -- drain on wire racks, and double fry (2nd fry is flash fry in a highee heat just to crisp up batter, so it won't get soggy later on; maangchi has a good youtube tutorial for this)๐Ÿ˜˜

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If it's food for tea or dessert, I may make Apple Crumble. The time consuming part is cutting up the apple. However after it's cooked, it can be kept in the fridge for a couple of days and then baked with crumble topping. You can add lots of crushed nuts and stuff into the crumble to make it scrumptious. Hmmm, I'm feeling hungry right now!! ๐Ÿฅง ๐Ÿ˜‹

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omg love a good crumble, especially with custard or vanilla ice cream ๐Ÿคค

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Yup, heap on the ice cream (just forget about the calories LOL!)

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Calories?? What are those?? ๐Ÿ‘€

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Curry - choose a style and level of spiciness which would suit your guests. You can have assortment of sides to go with it.

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yes, this is a great idea! my dad's side of the family is south indian, so curry is a staple. I'm not the best at cooking curry, though, getting the mix of spices right is difficult when you don't have experience. practise makes perfect, I suppose!

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I cheat, I buy curry paste from the supermarket although there's a indian stall that gives you the right mix according to your requirements. It's relatively easy dish to cook once you get the right mix of spices. *So says the person who doesn't cook at home most of the time.*

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oooh, i've never tried those before, but that's a great idea! i might go and have a look. there's a huge indian community here, so they're not going to be hard to find at all!

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Korean and Japanese curry are so yummy and easy to make with the Golden Curry sauce mix.

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oh yes ๐Ÿคค I always dump potatoes into mine. they soak up the curry so well!

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That's it. I'm having curry today lol.

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to make taste a bit deep, add either soy sauce or Worcester sauce( or tonkatsu sauce) into the sauce. And you can substitute potatoes with radish( Daikon) if you like to cut calories /heaviness of the taste.

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Thank you!

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Oooh never thought to try this! Have to do it. I love the Bulldog brand of worcestershire/tonkatsu sauce!

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YEEESSS!

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I've been thinking of curry for the past three days and suddenly today, it's mentioned here and on another site. Sign? I think so.

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Roast chicken! The oven does all the work, and I can just serve it with salad or simple side dishes and wine.
Or slow cooker chili (also, because the gadget does all the work) then a huge plate of nachos and baked potatoes.
All else fails, a deli meats and cheese platter with a basket of bread and a simple pasta.
(We have family get-togethers once a month when my siblings and nieces/nephews visit my mom who lives with me, so these are my insta-party menus to feed a crowd๐Ÿ˜œ).

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I've wanted to get a slow cooker for the LONGEST time and it just hasn't happened because I'm not sure where in my kitchen to keep it ๐Ÿ˜‚ It would be awesome for braising some beef or pork and making sandwiches.

gatherings at yours sound lovely, I'm sure your family is super happy they're getting so much good food โ™ก

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Slow cooker is SOOOO worth it. I can watch dramas AND make dinner hahahaha! Since I work I put cheap cuts of meat in the morning and it's fork tender when I get home.

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I'm still stuck on your comment about the lack of seasons. Does your environment change more subtly? Like, "dry season" and then "super dry season"?

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I'm in Southeast Asia, right on the equator, so we don't experience changes in weather that bring about the changing of seasons! Our weather is pretty much humid and hot, humid and hotter and humid during monsoon season. Once, we had an unusual drop in temperature and it was about 22C out (about 72F) and people went about wearing jackets and commenting on the chill ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Same!!!!! I'm in Manila where weather is hot and humid ALL year. Our "seasons" are Hot, Hotter, and Kill Me Now.๐Ÿ˜œ

I also briefly lived in Singapore and Indonesia bec my Dad's work assigned him all over ASEAN. At least in Indonesia, it rained in afternoons (at least when we were living there). SG was hot but less humid...

It's just degrees of heat and humidity on Southeast Asia๐Ÿ˜œ

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Omg, I'm an SG beanie. HI! Hahaha. Kill Me Now was pretty much our weather the whole of June ๐Ÿ˜‚ It's so interesting seeing weather reports in Western countries talking about temperatures rising to 30 degrees. 36 is the norm here ๐Ÿคช

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You should have said you are S'porean! Get your curry spices from the wet market. If that proves daunting, head to the dried goods store and buy A1 chicken /meat curry sauce and get some curry leaves to go with it.

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Kill Me Now

My emoji is sweating just thinking about it: ๐Ÿ˜…

My mom grew up in Malaysia and people would ask her why she liked living in the northeast USA. Her reply was always, "I've had enough heat and humidity to last a lifetime!"

When I go "home, home", I try to schedule for less rain and humidity when possible. (While traveling in Ipoh during a light rain, I once slipped into a 5 ft/1.5 meter deep uncovered manhole!)

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OMG Hi!!!! I was just in SG a few weeks ago! Hope the Haze is better. It has been a crazy hot year, hasn't it?!

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Heheheh! Singapore has become much cooler these last 2 weeks. It's been raining on and off. So the haze has gone. Nice and clearer blue skies now. Still gets humid but heat is no longer at killer levels. ๐Ÿ˜

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@outofthisworld i love CURRY!!! Now I want some hahahaha. The smells in the kitchen too โคโคโค and curry leaves and the coconut milk breaking into coconut oil, and lots of hot rice......

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Yes, curry is always awesome with rice! I usually eat more rice whenever I have curry. Recently, I tried making basmati rice to go with my curry and it's heavenly!

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Hah! I was guessing you are in Singapore when you said that. Yes, so am I. ๐Ÿ˜„

Over here it's indoors that I end up wearing Winter wear LOL. I kid you not. In my tiny office, the central aircon turns me into an icicle. I'm in 2 to 3 layers of (one of which is a woolly) and with a woollen scarf to wrap around my head. ๐Ÿฅถ

Even my colleagues from out of town who are used to temperate climates and Winter complain about the cold in my room. ๐Ÿ˜ฐ ๐Ÿคฃ

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๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ helloooo fellow singaporean beanie!!

oof, your room must be absolutely freezing. Iโ€™m so used to the heat and humidity that my cold tolerance is pretty low. I donโ€™t even sleep with the air-conditioning on the whole night nowadays ๐Ÿคฃ

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The struggle is real. I work at a public television station; most of my female colleagues have office polar fleece, shawls or even fingerless gloves. Our television studios are very cold to counteract the heat from the lighting. But the temperature is the same, whether we're filming or not. I know I wasn't the only newbie who had to to deal with embarrassing nipple reactionsโ€”imagine spending an entire meeting with your arms folded across your chest. And ever since, I always keep a fleece just for meetings in that studio.

Office buildings are regulated for men's bodies. Inspired by Game of Thrones, College Humor's take on office AC interpreted the problem brilliantly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NNm8MTboA

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Salads or snacks with some dips, quick to make and quantity are easily adjustable.

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as someone who loves everything with sauces, dips are like true a gift from god.

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guacamole-- avocado, onion, lime juice, some salt and pepper... then just bring your favorite salsa and some sour cream for the side^^

And if I want to get a little bit more creative, maybe a southwest relish (cowboy's salsa? There's lots of names for it^^) It's a mixture of canned corn, beans, avocado, lime juice, cilantro, and tomatoes, like a salsa. Very good. Good luck! Any fun parties coming up then?

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wow, I've never heard of a southwest relish, but it sounds awesome! definitely going to put it on the list. my mum's birthday is coming up in November, so we might have a little gathering then. that aside, my family usually hosts a big get-together to celebrate christmas, and I've been using it as an opportunity to try out new things ๐Ÿ˜†

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I have that recipe as Cowboy Caviar and it is soooo easy AND good! But I have to make twice as much as I eat at it for days.
hmmmmmm maybe this is a good weekend to make another batch.
honestly it is good - especially with corn chips.

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Right? Hmmm... I do have to go shopping today... ahahahahaha now I want to eat^^

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you and me both!

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Cowboy Caviar -- cool name!

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Calzones. You can make them ahead of time and the fillings are endless. One of our family favorites is "Reuben Calzone," so totally not culturally accurate. I fill a calzone round with warmed corned beef slices, warm white sauce, Swiss or Gouda cheese, and warm sauerkraut that I have squeezed out every bit of moisture possible. Then I fold it over to the half moon share, fork crimp the edges, brush an eggwash glaze on, and bake. (If you don't pre warm the filling it doesn't yeast-rise as well.) I'm not using cooking terms, but I hope you can understand. This is not Asian cooking, but calzones and dumplings (mandu) are fairly similar. Other fillings are red sauce, grilled pineapple, mozzarella and cashew, chicken teriyaki, grilled peppers and onions. . .the possibilities are endless.

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Your description of calzones is making me very hungry!

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๐Ÿ˜ Any form of dumplings are great for parties. Finger food is best for when we stand around and chat while eating.

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Thereโ€™s nothing like a good dumpling ๐Ÿคค The ultimate for me: super juicy xiaolongbao with vinegar and lots of ginger ๐Ÿ˜

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Aaaaah and now I want xiaolongbao!!! I wish I knew how to make these, but how to fill them with soup and not make them break?
Now I want to go to a dimsum place and get this and spicy chicken feet and taro puffs and.....

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Sounds heavenly omg. Do you make your dough from scratch? Over here, we donโ€™t get uncooked pizza dough (to my knowledge at least) so I was wondering if there are any subs, e.g. puff or shortcrust pastry?

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I make my dough from scratch.
2 Tablespoons quick acting yeast
2 cups warm water with 1/3 c sugar mixed in
1/3 cup butter
2 1/2 teaspoons salt
2/3 c nonfat dry (powdered) milk
5-6 cups white wheat flour
(I usually use unbleached bread flour when I can find it.)
1 egg.
Let the yeast "bloom." Mix everything together. I have a bosch bread mixer. But if you do it by hand just knead until you want to die : )
For Calzones you don't have to let it rise, just roll out in a circle (twice as big as you want the finished calzone to be), fill, turn, crimp, and bake at 350 until golden. (I also use one more egg for an egg wash halfway through.)

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Wow!!!! I Wish I knew how to make dough! Despite watching dozens of youtube tutorials always end up overkneading or I doing something so it's crumbly and/or a sticky mess. Your Calzones sounds sooo good.

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A spinach omelette. Easy to make, healthy, and can be eating either warm or cold. Better warm,, of course, but also room temperature.if you add small pieces of bacon,, taste better. Depending of the spinach you're using, it could be tasteless or even bitter to some,, but the bacon does the trigger all the time!! Wish you success!!!

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@saya This is *so* your thread!

For ease, I make oven-y things (like Nadiyah Hussain's Chicken and Rice Bake) Lamb Rogan Josh with rice and naan, Thai Green/Red Curries....Anything where I just prep, cook and then can chat to my heart's content!

However, I'm a fairly fuss-loving cook - it makes my heart sing to see people enjoy my soul-cooked food!

Japchae is great, as is Kimchi jjigae. Problem is, I tend to eat it all up myself....
I also love making Mexican/Tex-Mex like Quesadillas (can cook them all in the oven at once), Enchiladas, Fajitas. All can ooze with as much spiced flavour, veg and cheese as your heart desires!

My DH makes packed nachos with guac and sour cream or a solid sizzling roast dinner with crunchy skin blessed rosemary chicken, crisp crunchyfluffy roast potatoes,
I also have been known to knock together a quick (or slow) pizza dough and encourage everyone to decorate their own. I look to smitten kitchen for the slow pizza dough recipe (https://smittenkitchen.com/2013/10/lazy-pizza-dough-favorite-margarita-pizza/) or to this grilled dough for a quick pizza (https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/quick_cheats_pizza_88026)

Jollof rice (a spicy, flavour-packed, stew-simmered rice), fried salted plantain and some variant of chicken with some coleslaw or salad is also a massive winner.

Sweet wise - cookies (chocolate chip or triple chocolate. I don't just do double. Go big or go home!), gooey brownies (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/occasions/easter/easter-chocolate-recipes/brazil-nut-brownies but without the nuts) and cakes!

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These all sound so good!

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Happy Friday to all the beanies around the world! Do you know how much you make my days? Love this site and all the fun conversations..
This morning I woke up with a smile thinking it was Saturday - then realized to my despair it's still Friday. :-(
So I've decided to look for another job that pays better and has better benefits. Wish me luck!

I talked with a recruiter yesterday about a job in a town an hour south of me. At first the pay and bennies sounded great - then I thought - with that much time on the road how will I watch my dramas every day? ACK!
gotta keep my priorities straight, right?

But I'm just at the beginning of my search and can afford to be somewhat picky as I still have a job now. Unfortunately I love the work and the team and the location, which makes it so hard to think of leaving....

I work as a contractor for a large IT company that makes contractors take time off when they close for a week. Which means no pay for me. :-( .

Anyway - for all the beanies who are struggling and feeling stressed - just know that we are all here for you and each other.
**fighting** to all of us!

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I watch my dramas in the train! I have two hours by day but the time flies like that!

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Oh that would be awesome! But there is no train for me - it would be by car on the freeway - then I could listen to audio books.......

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Ah yes, by car it sucks.

Good luck for your search! :)

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Good luck!

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Thank you - I tell myself this is just a start and not to get worried...
But it will all turn out well I'm sure.

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May you find a better job with better benefits and pay. May it be close enough to allow satisfactory drama watching๐Ÿ˜„. All the best!

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Thank you - I'm not sure I can find a better job with the group right now - but certainly one with better pay and bennies.
Right now I get to work at 7 am so I can leave at 3:30 - which is quite sublime - but right now all I can afford is to work then go home and watch dramas....

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Yes, it's hard to get the best balance of a great job that one likes, colleagues who are nice and pay/benefits that pay the bills and adds something to the savings. To tell the truth, after being working for decades, I'm missing the nice colleagues.

All the best in your job hunt and in wrenching yourself from your current job!

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Yes it is hard - as I've felt so lucky to work at an office 10 minutes from home, with a great team.... but when the company forces us to take days off without pay it sucks. I'm the only contractor who doesn't have a partner who brings in another paycheck and benefits.

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All the best in your search! Itโ€™s never easy moving on, but I hope you find something that gives you benefits and fulfilment! *hugs* โ™ฅ๏ธ

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Thank you! It is hard to put oneself out there in the job market - but it's easier knowing that I'm still employed.
but I can't help feeling guilty....

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Please don't feel guilty. It's fine for you to look for something better.

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UGH. I briefly woke up about an hour before I was supposed to get up for work with the thought of 'thank god it's the weekend' and then right after I remembered it was Friday. I sadly went back to sleep before being woken up by my alarm ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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I did the same thing this morning @trinpie! Except it was my usual time to get up. But I thought, "oh I don't have to get dressed right away because it's Saturday" - yeah!"
Then "oh crap it's only Friday!" ๐Ÿ˜ญ
I don't remember the last time I did that.

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I hated being a contract employee forced to take time off. Good luck with the job hunt (unless there's a way to get an increase in salary where you are now?).

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Guess what happened after I wrote that post? I found out that not only did I get a raise - but I got what I asked for and not less!

Still I will keep looking because I have time, but now I feel more validated by the bosses boss. Now to have more paid time off when the company shuts down....

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Yay!!!

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That sounds like a step in the right direction. Congratulations on the raise!

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Sending lots of positive thoughts for your job search!

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good luck!

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I am with you. Also looking for better job, sometimes discouraged. Fighting!!!!

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All the best to you @javinne. Hope you manage to find a better job!

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Well, sometimes I feel I am a failure, but I don't let that feeling define me. I will be better and celebrate with you, guys! ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜

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@javinne - I know what you mean by feeling like a failure. I feel that way often, but I work hard to remind myself of all that I've accomplished work and life-wise..
Hang in there - let's both find the job that suits and supports us better.
Fighting!!!

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Extra-ordinary You is fantastic. It's the most refreshing and fun show I've watched in ages. Get on it right away if you haven't already!!

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I've been hearing good things about this show but keep putting it off. Maybe I'll try it this weekend.

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I agree! I'm never bored during the episodes. It's very fun. The casting is great mostly Kim Hye Yoon and the scenery is beautiful.

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I couldnโ€™t agree more. The webtoon is amazing and I like how fast paced it is!!

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It's definitely my favorite airing show, along with When The Camellia Blooms. I'm enjoying Tale of Nokdu, but these are the shows that linger for me each week and make me want to discuss everything about them.

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I really enjoyed the premiere of MY COUNTRY. Hopefully the drama lives up to expectations!

I also started EXTRAORDINARY YOU due to fanwall raving. Beanies, I didnโ€™t sleep last night. At first the blips gave me a headache, but once I got to Ep. 3 I understood what was going on, and ended up bingeing all episodes.

The BOF references are killing me. Candy is such a hopeless Candy. I howled into my pillow when the non-heroine set out to find The Guy by bumping into every guyโ€™s back at school. For โ€œresearchโ€. Why does this remind me of @yyishereโ€™a Errand Boy Girl story so much? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Didn't @yyishere mention being inspired by Extraordinary You? I'm not sure but maybe ... It's one of the reasons I thought of trying this show, but I'm just worried I will not have the time. I'm starting to enter dotage or something and need to sleep more, like a baby! ๐Ÿ˜ด ๐Ÿ˜”

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One of her vignettes was inspired by Extraordinary You.

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I know, but since @yyishere started writing her story before Extraordinary You premiered I'd believe it if it was the other way around.

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Ahem. Extraordinary You and my story bore extraordinary similarities. I was gobsmacked when I watched it three weeks after writing my story. It proves that there are people out there who loathe the Candy Girl, portrayed with such amazing dumbness by the Candy Girl in Extraordinary You. She is the epitome of all that I hate about the Candy Girl: the sickening overdone cluelessness, the wide eyed innocence, the stoic "Bully me, please, I'm so worthless I deserve to be bullied, go on, bully me, I desperately want to be bullied." Gah. My latest chapter was inspired by the swoonworthy romance in Extraordinary You. They literally took my breath away.

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It might be the drama that finally propels her into a rooftop room.

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And...you are talking about me and my story. I am so moved I am crying cutely. I have impacted your lives. You love me. But guess what? All that love, and it makes no difference. I AM STILL STUCK RUNNING MY DAMN ERRANDS.

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For which @egads is grateful. At least I think she is, when you show up quickly with hot food.

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Nobody can't resist to Dan Oh! She's the best heroine! The scene when she bumped in all the guys she could was so funny!

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As someone who couldn't stand BOF enough to make it past ep. 2, I wasn't that thrilled with Extraordinary You. I think it's just not for me. My Country was very impressive and I hope I can fortify myself to make it through to the end since I usually leave before the people I'm attached to die.

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I like EY well enough but I have to admit the fever completely alludes me. Also, I have very little desire to watch this week's episodes...

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There are certain dramas that I'm glad I watched because (regardless of whether I enjoyed them or not) it allowed me to understand the parodies and meta in other dramas, such as BOF and SECRET GARDEN, or more recent ones such as GOBLIN and DOTS.

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Secret Garden was the first Korean drama I watched and have enjoyed all the meta references to it over the years. The same with BOF (though it wasn't in my top favorites), Goblin and DOTS and the parodies.
The references to BOF in EY is a little much for me, but I'm enjoying Dan Oh so much. Her first role in Sky Castle was good but we all hated her (until she changed at the end) and now we can all love her.
So I'm mostly into this show for her..

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When the one had to go play the violin in some random place when he really wanted to go talk to our heroine made me laugh.

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@bcampbell1662 The violin part was hilarious. It was a spoof of the violin-playing yellow-haired second lead. And then he started crying, and he looked so annoyed. But it got me, the part where he realises he likes the Candy Girl for real, and not because he's forced to like her. It broke my heart.

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OMO
oh no - I didn't catch that reference to BOF until just now reading it. gag
hahahhahhaha

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When you drama watch to help your drama watching...

The things we do for what we love...

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Is Jang hyuk an extra? It hurts watching him as an extra. If he were the lead, I would be watching this already.

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There are like 5 minutes of him in ep. 3, riding a horse and looking great. *cue me screaming* If he's an extra, he's a deadly handsome one who will take over the story -and history- once they give him more screen time (I'm all for it!)

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Woo Do Hwan with a mane of glory isn't enough?

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I think he will have a bigger role in the story. I mean, he's Yi Bang Won.

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Hi Everyone! ..... I hope you are all doing well today.

The winds are intense and so are the wildfires in California. To all the Beanies in the area, I hope your homes and families are safe! Definitely be careful out there.

Secret Boutique - Didn't get to this one this week and I'm missing Sun-woo.

Melting Me Softly - Is it the directing? The editing? The sudden scenes where, seemingly out of no where, one of the characters blow dries his hair? It's all just so random!

Pegasus Market - The perplexed looks on everyone's faces when things that shouldn't work suddenly do are just too funny.

Vagabond - Barely on episode 3 and seriously, is there anyone in this show that is not of dubious character?

My Country - Oh so good! So very good!

Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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Hi @korfan hope you're doing well too!

LOL about Pegasus Market. Those were my thoughts too when I watch that show and end up laughing out loud.

I'd like to start another show but I'm afraid that I don't have the time and will get frustrated. IE frustrated that I have to work instead of watch, or frustrated while I'm watching that I feel guilty! LOL.

Have a great weekend!

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@growingbeautifully, hello to you too! I also hope you're doing well today.

There are plenty of funny moments in Pegasus Market. The actors seem to have gone all in with this show .... they totally make it work.

I know what you mean about the time issues! It's the constant Beanie dilemma! Have a good weekend also.

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@korfan and @growingbeautifully - well you could have a life like mine, which is pretty much nothing now that the gardening season is almost done.
I work, go home, get stuff done then watch my dramas....
hmm that sounds kind of pathetic to be honest...

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Heheheh! @stpauligurl That's called life as we know it! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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@stpauligurl Sounds pretty good to me!

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Pegasus Market - I love those looks! I'm also never sure if I'm happy or not when it works. Whose side am I on? Do I really want the president to turn the mart into a bomb because I'm upset he was unfairly treated?? Do I want it to succeed so they regret firing him?? I don't know!

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@rueffie I know! Heh!

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Don't worry about catching up with Secret Boutique. We only got 1 episode this week. [Pout]
Happy Friday!

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@msrabbit Oh ok. I won't feel so bad then. I've only watched up to episode 4 so I'm going to try and catch up this weekend .... hopefully!

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My Country is what i've been looking for in a sageuk. Tale of Nokdu is good but My Country has that gravitas thing happening...and not a stolen baby prince in sight.

Are you not watching Miss Lee?

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@scifiwritir My Country, with just two episodes, is working on so many levels, isnt' it? It's just hitting all the right spots. I hope it holds up until the very end.

Not watching Miss Lee at the moment. How is it?

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Me too!
Miss Lee is basically slice of life attempted company take-down with a nod to the employment crisis. Some drama tropes but the tropes and characters feel more realistic.

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Nokdu's Flower DRAINED me. I loved it but I won't be able to repeat that experience any time soon. I guess My Country is very similar in tone?

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Hi korfan, I agree My Country is really good - the acting is phenomenal. Iโ€™m inexplicably sympathetic toward Do Hwan I Shoot Arrows Only For Myself. Of course Iโ€™m anticipating more Jang Hyuk when history catches up.

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Hi @owl22! It's quite good indeed. There hasn't been a dull moment so far. I hope this continues until the end. Also looking forward to Jang Hyuk!

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Hello everyone, hope you will have better weekend than me, as I have to work this Saturday :/
The beginning of the end of "Supernatural" kicked off, I can't belive I spend with this show 15 yrs!!! I tried to stop many times and in the end always came back to it.
And what a bitter laugh I have over NBA/Blizzard kerfuffle, is this so called "The Streisend Effect"?

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Have a good day at work @shach!

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Extra ordinary you is so good. And it's probably the only show where I think the English title is better than the literal korean title. Since I have nothing to watch on weekends, I spend my entire weekend thinking how good it is until Mon/Tue comes and Tale of Nokdu reminds me that it is great and enjoyable too. I am in a rom com drama heaven but weekends are very empty. I'm afraid to spoil my light mood by watching My Country but the reviews here are quite good.

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My Country hurts already. I'm liking Flower Crew too. It's light so far.

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I don't Love you Yet DVD Box 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AY3IJHnCaY Just 2 minute video

1st time in a while when not watching more than 1 Kdrama.
Someone was talking about anti-abortion what about this twist in Trash Show now? with or against?

We have access to all basic human needs and to top it off we have quality internet and spend considerable time watching plastic faces so least we talk about privilege the better.

Someone shared an article discussing a book and that book got review where critique made the point that author had lack of knowledge of K industry - frominterview too

INSKEEP: I think I hear you saying that K-pop is - just as there is state-directed capitalism, this was kind of state-directed culturalism.

BHUTTO: Yes. And it's very capitalistic in the sense that it's industrialized. So Korean music studios spend years and hundreds of thousands of dollars training their K-pop stars. They will spend, I mean, maybe three years, five years learning how to sing, how to speak different languages, how to talk, how to dance, how to do everything before you've ever even heard of them.
With K-pop, itโ€™s difficult to gauge whether more plastic goes into cosmetic surgery for the performers or in manufacturing the music itself.

The bookโ€™s final layover in Seoul unfortunately reduces Bhutto to a cultural tourist, with her account of the K-pop industry relying more on existing documentation than first-hand reporting. This is a shame, since the subject is nearly as rich and far more relevant in East Asia. South Koreaโ€™s entertainment industry has generated momentum comparable to the nationโ€™s hard manufacturing, often employing the same brutal, calculated efficiency.

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Hi Everyone and Happy OT!
How have you all been? I've been more busy and tired and found myself without mood or energy to come visit here at DB as much as I used to. That is soooooo rare for me!!! I could only concentrate on 1 show. Also very rare for me!

I've finished watching The Untamed, thanks to the raves of Beanies and am very glad I did! It's not the usual genre or choice for me, so I took a leap of faith and decided to try it. I can see (and feel) why it was such a crack show, however I've resisted going totally down the rabbit hole of re-watching, catching all the vids or reading everything online about the story/plot/characters. I did read a bit and asked my friend, @Snickers for info on parts that I did not understand, but I've been a good girl and done my work instead of going back to the drama. (Heh!)

However, I can still hear the stirring OST in my head. So much pathos, longing and possibilities for a better tomorrow. Loved it!

Production-wise, I know there was trouble and it wasn't easy, so although I have to say that lots could have been better, I do appreciate that it was not always possible. I'm sure even the Production Team knew that it would have been better to have shown more of the backstories of the side characters and of the villains even, instead of being told (too much exposition), or that the futures of our beloved 'heroes' would bear some fleshing out. (The zombie times could have been more than halved!) Some episodes were sorely in need of a great deal of editing, etc.

But the good stuff was great and done so well. The satisfying plot progression, the meticulous detail and costumes, the colour and scenery, the music, and the chemistry between characters was what made this show so addictive.

So now I've to gather my energies and get back into Camellia Blooms and Pegasus Market. It's going to be a busy weekend with nice shows to watch!! Yay!

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Have a good weekend and enjoy the drama-watching!

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Hwaiting!

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You are stronger then me! I've already rewatched it and now in the process of reading the book.

And the drama definitely had it's flaws. I also had to consult people because there are some things in the drama that seems to rely on you having read the book. But despite its flaws, I love the drama so much because of the feels it gave me. It is my favorite drama for that alone.

And the OST and the use of music in the drama was absolutely superb. That was definitely something the drama didn't falter on.

Glad you liked it though! ๐Ÿ˜

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Yes, the feels made me fall in love with this show. The OST, 'Innocence', I believe it's called, really hits in the gut (or heart!), reminding us viewers, what our hero sacrificed and the hardship he went through, just because he really is a noble guy who wanted to stick to his principles and have a clear conscience, on top of loving his people. To see him stand up and continue on regardless, despite the unfair accusations thrown at him and the misunderstandings of even his closest friends, breaks my heart.

With every excuse to turn away from his difficult path, he still trudged on. And so the resolution is that much more satisfying. Hence our great regard for this show.

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I understand you so well, I loved it, watched intreviews with cast and BTS but I have no desire to rewatch it or read the novel, I love to follow Beanies fan walls posts, and I'll check actors new projects but that's it for me.

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So good review about the Untamed! Thank you very much. I have heard so good comments about it that it makes me curious, but as you said to yourself, it is not "my genre".
Sadly, I don't have time... And I am watching miss Lee and want to start with Pegasus Market just in order not to miss a little bit the collective fun while it's airing, but maybe one day.... maybe I will try the Untamed๐Ÿ˜‰
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Hello Beanies!

Can anyone tell me what happened in the eps 5-10 of Strangers? I don't care about these characters so I just want to know the short version. The cast was good but story could not keep my interest. If he's so smart he would just go away, if he's becoming mad it's not so nicely done, better watch Black Swan, Repulsion or Joker.

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I would also like the short version! I followed until I was sincerely worried he was just going to become a serial murderer... then I waited and watched the ending. It didn't exactly reassure hahahaha.

THERE ARE SPOILERS BELOW THIS SINCE THE RECAPS AREN'T OUT.

I'm gonna try and make this longer though, so the spoilers don't just show and it gets a "show more" curtain. Haha I haven't even seen all of the last few episodes either since I was scared (but I might go back and watch them more carefully now).

My understanding? The gosiwon kind of starts to break down/get exposed, the police find a body in the mountains and connect the dots, our Main Boy's girlfriend gets kidnapped, and he goes in to save her. Cue some confusion, everyone dies and he and she are saved. It seems like they all killed each other and they survived by chance... until the last 10 minutes, when they replay that last scene and you realize it was the Dentist who had wormed his way into our main boy's mind so much he tells him "kill everyone and I'll let you live". ... so he does. And they live, but our boy is secretly now crazy and maybe still hearing murderous voices. The Endใ… ใ… 

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Yep you got it @cozybooks in a very simple but clear condensation of the story.

I thought the show was brilliantly done in every way....
Don't know why, but I was surprised at the ending. And that is a good thing!
One of the best OCN dramas I've seen so far.

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Hey thanks! And yeah, I really didn't see that ending coming. I don't know how I feel about it (I'm not usually a fan of morally gray heroes etc.) But it did spur a lot of interesting thoughts about how far he can be held accountable for his actions. I mean, if I were put in a similar situation I know what I hope I'd do... but I don't know. And would that change if they were different people? (in my opinion, yes).

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That's a nice ending! Thanks @cozybooks

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What's in it for the dentist? All he wanted was the experience of making a guy go crazy? Did he go to another shabby place?

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And that - my fellow beanie - is what they left us with... very open-ended with questions..

Like a good Hitchcock movie like The Birds - stuff happened that didn't make sense, then it was all over with no reason.

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I think The Birds isn't really open ended, there is a fantastical event but the causes are not important for the theme. And I think Hitch would be not amused by the comparison heheheheh.
In Strangers the plot kept hinting they would tell us the motivation behind the dentist and his gang but I could feel the drama was all about being creepy and sinister but didn't really have a background story which is the reason why I lost interest.

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If you watch the Birds - no one knows why they suddenly started to attack the people in the town. At the end, when they drove away we still didn't know why.
One thing I read about that movie that made it unique was there was no musical sound track. I had to go back and rewatch it. It truly was a masterpiece of suspense and not knowing what was going to happen or why. In the end we were just happy that they were able to escape from that house. to this day I can't see a lot of crows in one place without thinking of that movie.

But Strangers from Hell - yes you may be right that there were hints about the orphanage and the connection between all the characters. I guess I was just so transfixed by how they were telling the story that it didn't bother me so much.
Yes, no one was fully explained, except possibly Jung woo - and in his case we could see he definitely had some latent anger issues.
It would have been nice to have everything explained, but sometimes things happen and we never know why. And people are horrible and evil and we never know why...
In this case that part of the writing didn't bother me, and maybe because I was so enamored with how creepy it was.

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Yes, but The Birds isn't about the reason why birds went into crazy mode. That's just the event that starts the story. I'd even say explaining would take away from the meaning behind the film.

Strangers is the opposite of that because many times the scenes were built to tell us hints about the relationships between the murderers and it went on to show the dentist as if he were Hannibal Lecter. It's like Silence of the Lambs if we never knew what Hannibal planned to do, it would make no sense. I'm glad I dropped it, even though it had a decent ending for the main character it seems to have dragged the plot.

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What you are saying makes sense. But for me sometimes it's okay for it not to make sense.
Maybe the reason I'm continuing is that so many times in movies and dramas we see the why things happened the way we do. To know that gives the viewer a certain sense of comfort. "Ah... that is why..."
But what I liked about Strangers was that at the end, we were still left with
"what the hell just happened?" And sometimes it's okay not to know...
Granted maybe they shouldn't have put in those little nuggets to whet our appetite to know more - and maybe the writer wasn't sure how to end it - but for me, sometimes (only sometimes) is it okay to be left thinking "What?"
Like was that all a dream? Then we are left thinking about the story. It's easier to tie a story up in a neat little bow with all the i's dotted and the t's crossed - but sometimes the story itself becomes the core.
I don't know if I'm making sense - but I did like the open ended finish where I scratched my head thinking "what?" but it got me thinking about the nature of evil.
Is it born, or developed?

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What about the police lady seeing a glimpse of him in the hospital elevator? If he's just in JW's mind, how come she can see him? Or did MJ also morphed into her mind?

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Happy day all! I hope everyone had a great week and hopefully will have an awesome weekend.

I read an article that made me root for SSR more in kdramaland. To more roles and more dramas!!
Shin Sung Rok - from "unknown" actor to participation in 25-billion-won blockbuster "Vagabond"
https://channels.vlive.tv/C7A6F1/vtoday/1.11973952

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Good morning everyone! Ahahahaha I should really be paying attention in my physics class right now, but I wanted to stop by and say hello^^ The weather is finally turning cold here, I was able to step in cruchy ice-grass this morning (I'm so excited for snow)! Perfect drama weather. I'm *dying* watching tale of Nokdu, it's hilarious. And Melting Me Softly? I didn't realize how much I'd needed Ji Chang Wook back in my life, lol. Thank heavens army is only 2 years. Hope everyone's having a good Friday! Fighting!

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It's nice seeing JCW again.

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Fighting in Physics! And every other class!

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Hahaha thanks... but especially physics. Did you know electrons only emit light when they go down to a lower energy orbit? But they're not really orbits at all, and high school lied to us... they're really waves. And so are we all. ใ… ใ… ใ… ใ…  It's been a party.

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What?! They are not orbits?!? Hmmm if they are waves then.... I think Iโ€™ll need a drawing to understand ๐Ÿค”

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