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Open Thread #626

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Oh, joy of joys, beanies!! This weekend I met two real life kdrama fans! It is the first time in my four years of watching that I met others, and it was such a pleasure to sit and discuss dramas and not hear the sighs of resigned (but loving) tolerance- which is how typically how family and friends greet my segues into all things Korean.

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Congratulations! That is indeed one of the happiest moments in a kdrama addict's life. :)
It happened to me a few times, and it was all great until they started raving about dramas I consider trainwrecks. I would then diplomatically switch to talking about another drama LOL.

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Thank you!❤it really is so much fun to meet and share experiences with a fan as jazzed as you feel. We were very diplomatic- I respected his choice of Super Junior and he did not question my love of BigBang

...Vive La Difference!

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Oof I have a classmate who hasn’t watched a lot of dramas, but somehow thinks DOTS is one of the best ever. And then there’s me, who couldn’t even finish it because of how cliched and cringe I found it (no offence to any fellow DOTS lovers, the OST is amazing). Let’s just say there’s a lot of smiling and nodding on my part 😅

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Sounds like me and when my friend was gushing over Heirs. And I was like ?!? Haha. I told her I could recommend OTHER dramas to her but she seemed so happy about it after a while I just smiled along. Lol.
To each their own. World would be too boring if we all liked the same things.

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Same 😂 my only teo real life friends love romcoms more than the slice of life dramas i like. So even if we share the love forkdramas, we can't talk about anything common mostly.

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Hahaha. I watched DOTS. I liked it. It was nice. But that's about it. There were/are no lingering feelings or moments where I am so happy watching it or anything. Idk where you're from but there's a drama "hamsafar" (which roughly translated means life companion) from where I am which was a domestic and international hit, kinda similar to the impact that DOTS had. So anyway that drama was nothing spectacular but it had pretty leads (and money/glamour) and people loved- no love it! Its severely overrated like DOTS (No offence to anyone) so I always say that DOTS is the Humsafar of Korea😂. Nice and good but not fabulous and extremely overrated.

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Just realized I kinda went little off topic here but oh well 🤷‍♀️

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Don't worry, I've met several people who enjoyed DOTS and honestly I did enjoy the secondary romance, and bromance! The OST is pretty good too.

I just lost patience with the story and the female lead somewhere around ep. 9 (was it when she made the car fall over the cliff into the sea? I don't even remember the details. It was so silly and over the top!)

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Omg that's so accurate! DOTS is the humsafar of SK. Humsafar has all those tropes we've seen since the 80s & 90s but it has extraordinarily pretty ppl.... & a great ost.... But that one slip by Hadiqa Kiani still bothers me.

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@maybemaknae hahaha what slip? I didn't notice!!

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First my bad since its QB not Hadiqa.... But its the "Kajal daro.... Kurkura surma saha na jaye" It's karkara surma as in gritty, not kurkura that means crispy. I always cringe when I hear kurkura.

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Hahaha never noticed before but now everyone I hear the song I'll remember this😂

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Lol I won't apologise 😂😂😂 too bad for your re-listening experience 😆

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Oh yes it’s awesome. I have a KakaoTalk group of friends I made from here and we gush and squee; but they’ve also kept me sane on bad days and support me. Kdrama watching friends are special, they really are. Congrats for finding them!

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Lucky you! ♥️ I only really have one good friend irl who will really sit down and discuss dramas with me, and she is my solace. In fact, I was supposed to meet her today and discuss Camellia (and convince her to watch Extraordinary You) but our plans fell through and we missed each other :(

My sister is a kpop fan, so she’s no stranger to Korean entertainment, and my mum is slowly opening up to watching some dramas thanks to Netflix. My dad, on the other hand, is quite sceptical and a little snobby when it comes to Korean content, unfortunately 🙃 Can’t win them all, I guess!

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I had a friend who thinks American tv is the best. i kept showing him how many tv shows were originally korean (like the good doctor, etc). i think he grudgingly accepted, kinda, sorta. but still no drama watching.

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Are there any other kdrama-first American shows? Good Doctor is the only one I've been able to find, but have been hunting for a list.

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i can mostly think of variety shows like Grandpa over flowers and Masked Singers...and movies like the Lake House. The only dramas i can think of were Somewhere Between and the good doctor. Maybe there were less than i thought but i remember looking at certain American movies and thinking..."wasn't this a korean drama before?"

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I was told that if I wanted to watch foreign dramas then why don't I watch the Americans. It's such a chore explaining people again and again how vastly different they are. People are just irked by the thought of us watching dramas in a language we don't understand with the "hugely difficult task of reading subtitles "

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"People are just irked by the thought of us watching dramas in a language we don't understand with the 'hugely difficult task of reading subtitles' "

HAHAHAH So relatable!!

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This. 👆

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Subtitles are difficult? I can't watch American or British shows without subtitles anymore!

it probably doesn't help that I can't hear all the mumbling with my bad hearing

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I don’t understand the problem with subtitles 🤷‍♀️
I’ve got to the point I don’t even realise I’m reading them. Had lots of practice watching Inspector Rex.

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Congratulations!

I definitely know how it feels. Recently met someone who loves kdrama as much as I do too. Here's too hoping we meet more real life kdrama fans!

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Lucky you! I would kill to meet a real life kdrama fan (no, i wouldn't..i really wouldn't..they are too precious..). Recently, after I finished watching the last Extraordinary You episode, I was so full of gushing, but no one to gush to. I have been trying to get my husband to watch it with me but he only watches them after a lot of persuading (nagging) from me and he hasn't read any manhwas, so he doesn't get it..sigh..

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I know what you mean. This week during our lunch walk, I tried to explain why I loved Pegasus Market to my friend - and she said not a word.....

Then again, maybe it's because the last one I talked about was Strangers from Hell and how people were killing residents and then eating them.... At that point she said "NO MORE"
At least we have our fellow beanies here!

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Haha. Between Stranger from Hell and Pegasus Market, I can see why your friend would be weirded out. Those are not our ordinary kdramas.

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So, should I be telling her about a drama about a high school girl who discovers she is part of a comic book and wants to decide her own fate?
Or maybe about a museum art director who is really a kpop fan on the side and falls in love with her boss, who, as it turns out lived in her house as a child when he was orphaned?
Or all the shows where they switch bodies with ghosts and/or each other?

Actually, they are all quite weird sounding to the un-initiated but that is why I LOVE them!

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I think comic book high school girl and museum art director are fine choices. I'll add in "pretty" and "beautiful" and emphasize on that. ;)

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Lol. Yes! Try telling them about extraordinary you! I was telling one of my friends about it and she thought it was really interesting.
I don’t comment a ton on dramabeans but I’m so grateful for this site. I’m test to meet any irl fans but reading how you all react to shows I love warms my heart. I love that this community is one of most respectful and most positive places on the internet. Beanies are the best!

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I also was very happy, and still am, since I know face to face uri @swunnie 🙂😇😃😄

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Same here 💙

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Happy Friday everyone. This is my free day before another working weekend and I decided to go crazy and tidy my closet(s). But while watching dramas of course, I'm not that crazy ;)
I admit change of season get to me every time and I was bit down and let a lot of things go, but I don't if it's power of Ashwaganda supplement or what, but I feel better now, wanting to clean my room is always a first sign of getting better, isn't it :)

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Yup! Clean out the old to make way for the new. Or just declutter to simplify. Glad you feel better!

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Bravo! I’m in the midst of a deep clean myself. What started as a simple home office tidying ended up with half the house in disarray as I reorganized my son’s room and my office. Piles of books and miscellaneous flotsam are piled on the sofa. But my desk drawers are *ting* *ting* sparkling!

Like you, the change of seasons along with lack of sunshine dulled my happiness for weeks. Cleaning—even if it’s just the surface in front of me—is often a shot in the arm for me.

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Hello Beanies!
Hope your week was good 😊
Mine was filled with ups and downs as I try to get used to being stuck at home alone for most of the day.

Some people may think it’s amazing since it’s paid leave and free time, but I think I need friends around me to talk to- I hate being alone. Mostly. Though I’m not a party animal at all. I just like having a meal with good friends and laughing and chatting. I’m not so good with strangers though. I hate small talk, I’m so awkward.

So what about you Beanies? You live for alone time, or like me, crave human contact?

Ps. I really wish Nokdu had 2 episodes this week. I love how strong the women are and yet how they aren’t caricatures or out of place in Joseon.

Pps. I really need a cracky drama that’s fully aired to binge on. I heard Grateful Family is good? I’ve seen clips and the female lead seems so badass! In a non Candy and totally kickass mildly b*tchy way. (Cuz sometimes I want to let my inner b*tch out too 😝) Anyone watched?

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There are no wrong answers to this, it really depends on who and where you are in life- my work and family require an overwhelming amount of human contact, so I am always excited to go off and enjoy time alone. My partner however, telecommutes, and is the opposite- he's happiest when he's surrounded by an entourage (kids, dogs, strangers....anything works!)

Btw, the storyline of Graceful Family reminds me a bit of Shining Legacy, where its the world against our heroine! Definitely give it a try!,

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I recharge by being alone, but some people are the opposite .

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Yeah I have a friend like that and we get along like a house on fire but he needs his own space too so sometimes I’m not sure if I’m being an inconvenience by constantly being the one seeking him out, since I’m clearly the more extroverted one by comparison.

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Probably not. I love my friends and spending time with them. If I'm not in the mood to socialize I just tell them.

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I think it’s good for an introvert to have a few good extrovert friends. I tend to feel grateful when my extroverts reach out to me. If an introvert is a plant, I feel like their good extrovert friend is like getting watered at the perfect time. I can’t speak for your friend, but if you understand and respect their need for solitude, I think your reaching out would be welcomed.

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I was told once that I was an introvert who was raised to be an extrovert (#6 in a family of 9 kids) which explained why I'm comfortable making chit chat in the coffee room. But MUST have my time alone at night and on the weekends.
Which is easy as I live alone - but there are times I need to be around people - but only at my own speed.
We all have different needs for human interaction, but what is important is to recognize them, and have people in our lives that respect what we want and need.
@michykdrama I hope you find a way to meet all of your needs - and get in a few good dramas.

How is your back feeling these days? Are you still laid up or walking around now? Do you feel better?

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Thanks @stpauligurl! 😁 I’m slowly but surely getting better. Although it’s more slow these days. Have been walking around for a while but not allowed to bend or lift heavy things or climb stairs. The last one because I somehow developed knee swelling. But I did get the Husband to bring me and the Boy out for ice cream- but I was super tired after and lay in bed for an hour. Haha. But it was worth it 😊

Hope you have a restful and drama filled weekend! ❤️

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So glad to hear you are healing. Years ago I had an abdominal surgery that required I lay in bed or not lift anything heavier than a loaf of bread (I think it was) and I about went out of my mind from boredom. One can only sleep so much.
At the time I tried watching the first season of Arrested Development and laughed so much that I finally had to stop because it was so painful.
yes it can be hard to heal - but it sounds like the Husband and Boy are there for you. Yeah!
How is the Boy doing with this now that I think of it. You were so worried about him before the surgery...

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@michykdrama, you should totally watch Graceful Family. I hate makjang-filled dramas and this is full-on makjang but I loved every second of this drama. They did it right imo. And honestly I think it would be the best drama to watch when you are alone. You can laugh your head off and gasp dramatically at Fish Funerals without fear of judgment.

I live for alone time because I am an introvert but I also love the deep conversations I have with people I have allowed into my space. It doesn't have to be anything world-changing but it just can't be "Weather's good today huh?". Small talk makes my eye twitch. K-drama talk is totally acceptable. I mean what's more acceptable than squeeing over a very girly guy's abs(ala Nokdu) with people that are feeling the EXACT same way as you.

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Rue! Hope you have been well.

Okay I shall start on it next week. I saw clips of the Fish Funeral and couldn’t believe it was for a FISH. i thought the granddad died or something. Lol. Insane and totally mad but strangely I watched the whole clip 🤣 hopefully the whole drama will be like that for me and keep me going next week.

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I've been....alive. Starting to delurk now that my life doesn't resemble the beginning of the Candy-centric k drama: Lost her job, home, school. Seems the k drama gods thought I'd enjoy living life like the typical Candy. (No, I did not). But things are looking up now so yay! Now if I could only find out about my long lost grandmother who left me a fortune and her business to run that'd be awesome.

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LOL!!! Glad to hear things are looking up and good to hear from you. Am enjoying Nokdu so if you don’t mind the fact there are only 5 episodes so far and are up for a live watch (with all the angst waiting each week!) do consider! 😁

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Haha, I have been watching Nokdu actually. Squeeing in the background and laughing my head off when I read similar squee posts in the KakaoTalk group :) I love me some Nokdu.

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❤️❤️❤️

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The ceremony for the was literally nothing compared to the one for the fish. Even the musical score is OTT makjang.

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For the grandfather...

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Aww I’m sorry about the downs you experienced during the week. I hope next week is better!

I’m very introverted, so I like being alone, but I also love being around people I’m close to. Maybe I’ll grab some coffee with a friend and chat for a few hours before retreating into the quiet comfort of home! My sister on the other hand thrives off of company and going out and being active, so it’s really a question of what makes you happy and comfortable.

I hear you on the small talk, though. It’s just so painful and cringey sometimes!

I’m not watching Graceful Family, so I can’t say, but by far the CRACKIEST drama I’ve ever watched was Flower Boy Ramyun Shop. It was so weird to me, I don’t even know if I can recommend it. I just always remember it as that one wacky drama I somehow finished 😂

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I suppose I’m looking for company but only with people I know well and get along well with. If I have to make small talk to strangers I’d rather be alone. With dramas. Or on dramabeans. Haha

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I am really weird as I am all about my solitude. I live with my 2 sisters, who I do love, but I fantasize so often about living alone. My ideal would have 5 days being all alone with nothing but myself and my pets and then spend the other 2 days with family and friends.

As for Graceful Family I've only seen the first episode but it already hooked me. And that was because the FL was kickass, and from what I hear she continues that way through the rest of the drama.

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i love having other folks around but since i live with hermits who don't talk i find that if i'm with normal people for too long a time that i get antsy.

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So a nice balance of talking but not too much? 😊
I suppose I’m a bit like that since I’m chatty during work and then home would be more quiet. But now that I’m stuck at home it’s been TOO quiet.

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I totally live for alone time. I can only take a couple hours of "social" time at a time even with close friends and family. My friends do wonder why though. They didn't get why being alone is fun. I love to just watch dramas or read when I am alone. I love that feeling of solitude. :)

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For me, the times I've had health issues and been home alone during the day, I found that just getting through the day occupied me enough, without having other people around. i.e. managing to take a shower, eat some food, and sleep a lot.

In regular life, I think I never got past one of the childhood stages of development called side-by-side play or parallel play. I'm perfectly happy when there are other people around, but we all do our own thing mostly rather than chatting a lot, aside from mealtime, etc.

I really hope you're able to be physically and socially comfortable during your time at home. Did you watch Melo is My Nature? That was pretty amazing!

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My korean hairdresser recommended it to me actually! Way before I did my surgery. Thanks for reminding me! If Graceful Family doesn’t grab my interest I’ll check it out. Thanks!!

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I too have been making adjustment as I took the reference my company offered after 23 years with them as I was so burnt out and tired. So for the last 2 1/2 months I have been at home just chilling and some days I do not interact with others. I have always enjoyed alone time but have also enjoyed having a meal with small groups of friends. Good thing there has been a slew of new dramas to keep me busy while I start to declutter and do some cleaning. The weather here in Texas has been very hot over the summer which kept me indoors mostly and it is just starting to cool down which will get me outside more. Currently watching
The Great Show - just concluded
the flower Crew
Nokdu Take
The Graceful/Elegant Family - just concluded
When the Camelia Bloom
Miss Lee
Running mates - trying to catch up from E5
Vagabond
Pergasus Market
beautiful Iove, wonderful life
Melting me softly
Leverage

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Correction it is severance not reference.

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Wow that’s a super impressive list of dramas!
I’m not sure why I can’t marathon dramas like I used to even when I’m free. But I have taken up watercolour painting. Except my brush sort of died so I am waiting for my new brushes to arrive by mail- thank goodness for online shopping! Haha

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I wish I could do clearing also but I’m not allow to bend yet or carry heavy things. But clearing is therapeutic cuz I always feel so accomplished after I’m done and the messy has become neat.

Glad to hear the weather is getting better and you can go out more though. Super hot weather is 🤪.

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Its Straight give and take. You want something then you have to pay something. Worse work environment. Unfair. But that's human world for you. Fairness and equality are just the buzzwords of face masks. reality is harsh and cruel.

Nearly every aspect of K-pop is functional, intended to satisfy the market rather than fulfill some deep artistic or Political urge.
trends are scientifically tracked to see whether a potential boy band should debut as gangster tough “beast-dols” or feminine, lip-glossed “flower boys.”
standard K-pop trainee contracts now include seven to twelve non-negotiable surgeries from double eyelid surgery— which involves cutting the eyelid skin to create a crease—to jaw shaving. Some boy-banders undergo leg breaking surgery to add a few centimeters of height while others, bending to the Korean aesthetic of skinniness as the height of attractiveness, inject poison into their necks in order to atrophy their muscles. Sure, it’s hard keeping your head upright with those muscle – free, delicate, swan-necks, the manager supposed, but a bit of physiotherapy goes a long way.
No music industry in the world invests so much in their singers before they debut; recoup is simply the price of business. Only when entertainers pay off their debt, returning what was spent on training, housing, and feeding them during their incubee days, do they start to earn a living as pop stars, though industry percentages are notoriously stingy.
You import Western music, Oh explained, Koreanise it, localising it to such a high standard that people in the West hear the music as fresh and unique, and quickly re-import it back to their countries.

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Nonvoters are criticised for the mistakes of Voters. i got voting rights but never voted in either local or national elections. I'm more than confident that the I won't in next few elections.

Its easy to say - nonvoters are irresponsible, have no accountability, lack sense of duty and blah blah blah. Blurt out any no. of regressive views you can bigots.

When you have only 2 options and both of them are factually almost same then it becomes a game of dice. That's why you need an alternative and that's why Non-voting is a significnt form of protest. Well, bigots won't understand who consider politics injurious while living in a world governed by the policies made by the ruling party.

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I wonder if the plastic surgeries filled entertainment industry affects badly on Korean society's standard of beauty that they are perceived. When my daughter was younger than ten, there was a Korean girl in her school who said that she cannot wait to have a cosmetic surgery done once she reaches certain age. My daughter was so shocked. She thought that the girl is pretty but I do know that her look is not a typical of so called Korean beauty. I must say that I can see some promising beauty in the girl and find very sad that she cannot see that and she will eventually feel that she is inadequate for her look as she grows up. I feel very sad and at the same time quite angry that the society( not only Korean society but everywhere) feeds all those nonsense beauty standards to vulnerable young people.
I see some Korean girls that are apparently manufactured by plastic surgeons on the street. Some times it is so apparent and though she thinks that she achieved the beauty, I find her look a bit off and pain to look at. I mentioned this incidents to my son and he
said," Korean men do not mind dating those girls knowing she has done PS as far as they think that those girls are pretty.'
By the way, we can tell if a girl is Korean or not on the streets , cause that their skins are so pale but while some are genuinely pale, other looks artificially pale. I often wonder if this skin whitening method can damage their skins.
Those phenomenon are in my opinion quite frightening. I do not consider this PS obsession in Korean society an isolated symptom but it derived from their psyche.

When I watch Extraordinary You, I find main cast of male students are exceptionally tall. I wonder if someday short male with their exceptional acting skills wont be able to get a role.

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Mushroom hunting is ♥️ !!! Anyone experienced with bids on eBay? I won a bid but I'm not sure if it's not a fake.

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I love mushrooms but I'm terrible at differentiate them.
Isn't the whole process automated? Why are you suspecting it's fake?

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i won a bid for a new mac for 350 quid. You can pay only by bank transfer and the bank account is a chinese one. It's a little bit suspicious, isn't it?

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Ah, yes, I'm used to paying by Paypal on Ebay, so I would be suspicious, but don't Ebay have a buyer protection policy or something like that?

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Me as well. I don't know about protection policy. We'll see. It will be a lottery.

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Yes, it's kind of the nature of internet auction, the lottery. But I would check the Ebay terms if there is any kind of protection for you in that case.

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I took a friend of mine, we went only for one hour, but we've got spoiled by nature. It was her first time and she loved it. I had my baby in baby holder so I couldn't pick them up, I was like "Look, this is this one and there's another one, could you cut it for me, please" "Where? I don't see any?" " Look there, you walked through it!... Next to your leg, right one!... In front of you!" and so on. I have to cut them and dry them and we'll have a blast. It was nice to be complimented from somebody much older than me "Everytime I'm with you I learn new things. I always try to make the food you make and it's simple and delicious." Who doesn't like to be complimented? It's such a long time somebody did it...

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So I had my annual appointment at the Dental Hygienist, I'm free for one year now \o/ I know it's necessary and good for my teeth but I really don't like it :p

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I feel the same . Aaah, that feeling of relief when it's done , knowing everything is fine for the next few months ...

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Happy Friday everyone! I have been frantically scrolling through the Beanie wall to avoid any Extraordinary You spoilers. I haven't had time to watch this week's episodes yet and I'm not sure when I will.

Busy weekend coming up. I am travelling back home for a baby shower and wedding. Looking forward to a fun weekend with family and friends! And hoping the fall foliage on my 3 hour drive is beautiful.

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So how are the EXTRAORDINARY BEANIES coping with the wait for new episodes? Tell me if you have a method that works!

Me? I spend my time making up crazy theories, living in dread that the writer will never answer all our questions, watching behind-the-scene videos, and wishfully praying for Baek Kyung's redemption.

(Such a great use of my time. I should read a book or something.)

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Me trying to cope: (reads Extraordinary Beanie posts) —> (watches bts videos) —> (lurks on Lee Jaewook’s Instagram) —> (watches random Rowoon videos)

Repeat until Thursday 😂

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I keep seeing fanwall posts. I am actually just bad with rewatching, I can't rewatch an episode/drama. I was thinking I just may start the webtoon too to fill up the days. Does anybody have an English translation link?

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I think you can find all the chapters here! https://mangadex.org/title/29776/july-found-by-chance

I want to read it, but I'm worried that it'll influence how I feel about the drama, so I might hold off until the drama is over.

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Same. I just want to focus on the drama's version of the story. Avoiding spoilers is so hard though!

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Thanks! I too, well prefer to watch only one version of a show. But the wait is so difficult with this one.

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Bookmarking for the future! Thanks!

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Well I watched the latest two half-episodes mostly raw and I'll be rewatching them when fully subbed. ;) I also browsed the Rowoon tag on Tumblr.

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Book Schmook(says the bibliophile). You are honing your critical thinking skills by spending time making up crazy theories.

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🤣🤣okay, if you say so!

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My coping method: fretting about my lack of time to watch anything, let alone start episode 3 while *gasp* episode 6 has aired already. :O
I thought having zero time to watch was the worst, but no. Having zero time to watch, while being obsessed is the actual worst. :(

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That does sound like the worst...
But look on the bright side? You have something to watch during the week!

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- Rewatching episodes
- Watching BTS videos, interviews
- Watching MV
- Twitter + instagram

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Watching the previews on repeat and crying is the method I'm implementing right now, although I can't claim it works! 😂

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I'm not at that stage... yet. Will soon be though. *hugs in sympathy*

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@azzo1 @mayhemf @msrabbit @sensationalfantasy @chasingbears @13infamyss @choijunu @samurai

Tagging beanies who like the show as much as me

Salute! *cue: DoTs soundtrack*

I am like you. I am zombie YY, wandering aimlessly till next week comes along, and I can see my favourite scenes and feel my heart flutter over over:

Range of fluttering heartbeats, on a scale of 0 to 10, 10 for Emergency, 0 for Flat (Read: Dead from Indifference)

1. Kyung sobbing. 10/10
2. Kyung scowling. 10/10
3. Kyung kicking water in a jealous rage. So. Hot. Om, my gosh. 100/10
4. Kyung smirking. 10/10
5. Kyung smiling tenderly. That preview. Omigod. So. Hot. 10000/10
6. Sweet Haru tugging the straps of Danoh's backpack. Omg. I stopped breathing. 10/1₩
7. Haru saying, You. Why does he keep doing that? And why does my heart keep fluttering when he does that? 100/10
8. Candy Juda still in love with her errand girl tormenter. 100/10. So.....romantic....and soooo heartbreaking. Some things never change. Even off stage.

I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH. BRING IT ON, WRITER.

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In summary: Kyung is SO HOT and Haru is extremely swoon-worthy and we all wish we were Kim Hyeyoon 😂😂😂

I need the next episodes NOW, the wait is going to kill me!

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It's going to be a long wait. Sigh.

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Baek Kyung pensively bouncing the tennis wall off the wall - 100,000/10

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One takeaway I got from this week was that our love and appreciation should be as loud as the hate. Reading all those posts about Sulli (May she RIP), made me realize that mostly women and also some men understood her plight and never felt that she did any wrong. But maybe the hate overpowered, it was just too loud to hear that she was still loved. If you know anybody suffering near you please let them know that their efforts are appreciated, their hardwork will bear its fruits and they are not alone and extremely loved by everyone even if they can't feel it for themselves.

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Yes to that.

And people realizing that words hurt and how one says something is as important as what one says. If you wouldn’t say it to the person’s face then maybe you need to say it another way, or not at all.

RIP Sulli.

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Happy Friday beanies. Reading week is coming up next week and I'm ridiculously excited. I don't want to do anything dramatic or exciting. I'm just looking forward to not waking up at 6am for class. No one has given me a clear answer for why we need to do anything before 12pm so my deep and consuming hatred for mornings will continue for now.

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I don’t usually leave comments in Open Threads, but considering this week was so horrible m I just wanted to lope ave a little love and encouragement on here for everyone:

Remember that you matter.
Remember that you are loved ♥️♥️

You are someone’s mother, sister, niece, aunt, father, brother, nephew, uncle.... You are known.
You are important.
You were created to be in this world for a reason
You have a place in this world and don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise

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❤️

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♥️♥️♥️

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This is so important.

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👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 That is why it is here for everyone

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You are an amazing soul (for posting this) *hug*
This is how we all should aspire to be and why I love Dramabeans. :)

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Awwwww nah I’m just trying to stay kind when the world makes it so seemingly difficult

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Your post reminded me of this video I encountered.This 12.5 minutes long. I'll recommend turn on the caption. He talks really fast, so you may even need to rewind. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXy__kBVq1M&list=PL3199D5D65E7E0BC6
Following the advice at the end of the video, here's to all beanies. Thank you for your support and for creating such a great environment at DB! ❤️❤️❤️

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Thank you for sharing 😊😊😊

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Thank you

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☺️☺️

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*group hug*

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🤗

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Thank you. You matter and are loved too. 💕

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Thank you 🥰🥰

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On Monday morning I had a verbal OMG moment when I opened the Korea Herald website to read that Sulli, 25, had died of an apparent suicide. It shocked the entire Korean entertainment community. She was a free spirit, successful actor and singer, who was constantly under attack from malicious commentators. No one will know what crossed her mind to end her life. She had been open about her depression, anxiety and panic disorders. She had just released a new album and was set to star in a new Netflix series. It appears that her pubic success masked her private pain.

The tragic irony is that her last role was a cameo for her good friend IU in Hotel de Luna, a show whose theme was spiritual healing so one can move on to the next life. Unbelievably, IU and Krystal (Sulli's band mate) were viciously attacked on-line for not posting condolences on their social media accounts. But both IU and Krystal spent three days in private mourning at the funeral hall. It is unbelievable that some people were upset on how others should mourn the loss of the family or friends.

There is a growing anger in South Korea against malicious trolls. The legislature may pass a bill enforcing stricter laws against defamation and harmful comments. But it will probably not stop the cruelty, lack of empathy or common sense that is social media's cancer.

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The sad and ironic part of it is that Sulli experienced horrible cyberbullying and toxicity. But then people turn around and throw that same toxicity at those mourning her right after what happened. It's a sad world that even those mourning the deepest can't have a moment of peace.

RIP Sulli.

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It's sad, really sad.

Even if we pass a bill... Don't get me wrong: we do need one... But what happened to respect from one human being to another in this world nowadays? :(

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Thanks so much for this info!

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Old drama alert! If you have US Netflix and haven't checked lately you may be in for a treat. Last week they suddenly obtained a huge amount of back catalog dramas, I think it's stuff DramaFever used to have, at least mostly. It now has: Signal, The K2, Chicago Typewriter, 20 Again (as Second 20s), Tunnel, Another O Hae Young (as Another Miss Oh), Answer Me/Rely 1994 and 1997, Cheese in the Trap, the Liar and His Lover. There's other back catalog it had added in the last month or so but I routinely search for K-drama on the app and all those seem like they're new within the last week or so. Of course it's also got new release shows and actually right now it's got several at the same time (Vagabond, When the Camellia Blooms, My Country, the Lie Inside) which is new.
If you want something spooky because of it being October my rec is: Chicago Typewriter which is about a writer who's haunted by the ghost of his best friend from his past life when he was a Korean resistance fighter. (repost due to bad html)

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I watched The Chicago Typewriter this sommer and really, really loved it. It made me obsess, and laugh and cry like crazy, totally recommend it! And Yoo Ah In is an amazing actor, this drama got me looking for his other work and he always manages to disapear into the roles...
I've also been waiting for Signal on Netflix! Got my partner to promise to watch it me, it's the first kdrama I get him to watch since Kingdom, so I'm kind of hoping to get him hooked on kdrama, it's a far shot, though,*sigh*

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Thanks for sharing this! I find it really hard to search for Kdrama on Netflix. I usually search "korean" but I've noticed that with this search term a lot or kdrama's are not actually shown to me.... and a lot of things that do show up are not even korean shows lol.

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The good thing is, Netflix categorizes all genres under a specific number. 67879 is for korean dramas, you can see them here:
https://www.netflix.com/browse/genre/67879

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Oh that's such a useful info. Where did you find that and do you know the number for c and j dramas too?

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Weirdly when I search the number it hardly shows me 10 to 12 kdramas but your link shows all of them.

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On netflix-code.com you can find a list with the codes Netflix is using. I haven't found a code for c and j drama, only for Asian movies and dramas: 108662. Just exchange the number in the URL and you should see more dramas.

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Yes thanks I just found that out. Seems like this code is more specifically for romantic kdramas as they are the ones I can see and they further say that there are more codes for sub genres.

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Yes, and you have your Another Oh Hae Young... 😃

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❤️❤️ this is the best!!

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I'm waiting for My Ajusshi.

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Happy Friday everybody!! Finally, a tiring week is coming to an end. I'm sad that we missed out on an episode of Nokdu this week, but Extraordinary You made that up for me. I think it's going to go down as one of my favourites.

My top 5 most-listened to OSTs of this year (in no particular order):

1. Moments - Christopher (A Moment at Eighteen)
2. All About You - Taeyeon (Hotel Del Luna)
3. Fly High - Sandeul (The Secret Life of My Secretary)
4. Your Shampoo Scent in Flowers - Jang Beom June (Be Melodramatic)
5. If I Could Be By Your Side - Sung Sikyung (The Crowned Clown)

What are some of your 2019 standout OSTs, Beanies?

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In no particular order either, and very much related to the dramas I enjoyed the most:

1. BIRD, BIRD, BLUEBIRD - Forestella (Nokdu Flower). Soul-stirring.
3. RUN - Yook Joong Wan (Special Labor Inspector Jo). Fun like the drama.
3. MY DREAM - Yoonmirae (Rookie Historian Goo Hae Ryung). Very soothing. It grew on me.

Usually I have a long playlist by the end of the year, but this year I have none! I find myself listening to older soundtracks like CHUNO a lot.

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I Love the Forestella song from Nokdu Flower which is my favorite historical drama. I compare that song with 'Do you hear then people sing' from Les Miserables.
Indee Bird, Bird, Blue bird is soul stirring!

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My Dream is a lovely song! I haven’t watched Nokdu Flower, so I haven’t listened to the OST. Is it good?

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The Love Alarm OST! I have an OST playlist and almost all of my 2019 additions have been from Love Alarm.

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Tearliner rarely does Osts but when they do, they are always great. They will most probably also make osts for The lies within because that PD always works with Tearliner.

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Yes I’m hoping for the same thing! I always love that PD’s OSTs. Coffee Prince and CITT were 💖. Love Alarm’s was very reminiscent of CITT’s for me with Tearliner and Love X Stereo.

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I love OST !

Hotel Del Luna : Done For Me by Punch
When the Devil Calls Your Name : Say to Myself, You bring no sadness and The Road You Left (Live Ver.) by Sondia
One Spring Night : Is it You and No Direction by Rachael Yamagata, Spring Rain by Oscar Dunbar
WWW Search : WOW by Mamamoo
Watchers : Horizon by Ha Jin and Outsider by Yi Sung Yol

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I love OSTs too. Practically listen to nothing else! I've got Hotel Del Luna, Goblin, Assorted OSTs, The Untamed etc on repeat. Love the instrumentals as much as the vocals.

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Extraordinary You. There’s much gushing over Dan Oh-Haru but truth be told, I would prefer a Dan Oh-Do Hwa pairing or Dan Oh-Bark Kyung pairing. I have a soft spot for BK & he is jerk cos he’s written that way & has a lousy father. Haru is too silent, too quiet.
Also can’t understand Do Hwa’s obsession with Joo Da. She seems to like Nam Joo so let her be. Who is to say that’s not how she really feels off stage as well? Joo Da is kind of tiring so I fail to understand her appeal to Do Hwa - silly boy should just move on.

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Also - unpopular opinion but I find Haru to be a somewhat colorless character.
And nam joo is too trite that he’s annoying.

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It would be ironic or perhaps just his 2nd lead’s fate if Do-hwa winds up pining for Dan-oh 😦

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It could work. Life is a full of irony but maybe not in manga world?

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I find Lee Jae Wook is a very promising actor. When I watched Search WWW, I find him very good and I found the pair with him and Lee Da Hee much more interesting( the story and the acting ) than other main couple. I even like that fact Lee Jae Wook seems to be one of few actors of young age without plastic surgeries. His look seems natural therefore there is a free flow of his expression.
Having said that, Kyung has much more to redeem. His heart is so entangled so he has not sorted out how he feels about Dan oh. Dan Oh has been there for him for so long so Kyung must be attached to her on emotional level somehow. But her so long crush on Kyun was on stage,,, yet when she shows her true color and start talking back to him, he seems to start interested in her in genuine manner,,,does it make sense?
Anyway, Dan Oh also needs to talk with him and find out how vulnerable and angsted Kyung has been with her and his own family mess.

As for Haru, he is a sweet boy and he does look like a prince from a manga book. He also shows his affection for her smoothly. No wonder Dan Oh is smitten with him.

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Happy Weekend Beanies!

I have two weeks to catch up with you all, so this will be loooong! :P Or not, since the whole week before the London trip can be resumed as a blur of working and worrying about all I had to do before I left and as soon as I came back home. It is probably the post-concert bliss that caused the blackout, but I am not complaining. :P

GOT7 was amazing! Silly me worried about biases, since concerts tend to change that. However, I am proud and relieved to announce that Mark is still my number one. Jackson and Jaebum were a bit subdued due to their health, which gave the others quite some opportunities to compete for the second spot. I was not prepared at all for Yugeom trying and failing to be sexy and ending up being super cute and adorable in the process, or Youngjae being anything but innocent and cute on stage. Jinyoung is another stage presence to watch out for. The most brownie points in the end go to smooth Bambam for making sure that the eternal classic ‘Girls,Girls,Girls’ was performed. ;) There was also room for heavier stuff, as both Jackson and Mark told us that we all were strong enough to keep on fighting against the dark times, and that despite things being bad now, better times will definitely come for us all.

Saturday was more a trip down memory lane for our western media consumption (before we found K-dramas). We visited The Forbidden Planet store with all its comics and movie merchandise, and then went on to Foyles Bookstore, which has like every book in the world. I finally found a complete edition of all the Narnia books in English, which was a nice western balance to the GOT7 wristband, T-shirt and bracelet I bought the day before. :P

Those encouraging words from Jackson and Mark at the concert came on time, because Wednesday I had to go back to work after having Monday and Tuesday free to catch up on stuff and rest a bit. Ahjumma and Ahjussi are both on a long sick leave, so I did not get to say goodbye to them and had to worry about finding secret hiding places or trusty messengers to ensure they got their thank you cards and cookies. Since I stopped being engrossed in my work as soon as I got fired, I had no tasks or colleagues to distract me or cheer me up. On top of that most people in my department, colleagues or not, had been sending pitiful looks my way or were walking on eggshells around me ever since the rumor mill did its job. They might fear that I’ll crumble if they make a misstep, but I fear I might have exploded at them instead. Now my contract has ended and I can fully focus on the remaining October activities and rest up a bit. I hope to start job-hunting again in November at the latest.

My friend who went on the GOT7 London trip with me, is accompanying me to a yearly local comic con tomorrow, which will be one of my last activities for a while, since I no longer have money to spend or...

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Glad you had some good weekends. Goodby and good riddance to the job. Good luck with the job hunt!

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Happy Friday Beanies! Worked 12 hours yesterday and then proceeded to stay up 2 hours later than normal reading a certain book that will remain unnamed (and untamed). So I'm tired and ready for the weekend. Just need to make it through today. We launched our Holiday products live on my companies website last night which is why the long hours. It's crazy that it's only October and we are already launching Thanksgiving/Christmas oriented products 😟

Rookie Historian Goo Hae-Ryung This was an enjoyable and cute drama but I think it would have been better served as a 16 episode drama instead of 20. I started losing interest in the middle. And at times the drama felt like a commercial for historians with how much they crowed about how amazing they were. I know the drama centered around that but it felt quite heavy handed at times. The main characters were enjoyable and the actors did a good job. Cha Eun-Woo has a long way to go in improving but I think he did a good job as the sweet and innocent Lee Rim. Certainly better then his disastrous performance in ID: Gangnam Beauty. But overall I enjoyed the drama for what it was.

My First First Love I finally watched and finished the second season. It was cute but nothing special for me. I guess I just wasn't as invested in anything since the romances that happened through most of the drama wasn't the main romance (which happened in the very last episode). It helped pass time at work while I was busy but nothing I would have sat and watched at home.

The World Owes Me a First Love The premise to this drama is pretty simple and straightforward but I'm still really enjoying it. I think it's because I really like the 2 main characters. Xing Yun is innocent and new to dating but she still has a backbone and spunk to her. Xia Ke is aloof and cold but he is actually just a sweet weirdo. I love his character and both actors are doing a great job. I love Bai Lu though, so that's not surprising.

Not much else I've been watching. Nothing going on this weekend so after finishing off TWOMAFL I will probably finish off Arsenal Military Academy which I love and watch more Graceful Family. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend when it comes!

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oh wow, i thought Cha Eun Woo was better in Gangnam Beauty because the character was already a bit cold. So it covered Eun Woo's model acting. Models are often really bad at acting when they first start because they keep striking poses, however subtly. In historian, i kept hoping he would loosen up and forget a camera was nearby.

Am waiting to see Arsenal Military. It just started on viki. Am watching Standing in the Time, and liking it. Also watched The King's Avatar. I gotta say i'm glad there's now a new "suggested" cap on the length of chinese dramas. Sometimes cdrama stories are so slow, repetitive, and full of filler. Just because the paint was drying, we don't have to see every aspect of the paint drying. Have a great weekend, also.

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Ha! I definitely had a different opinion on Cha Eun Woo.

I think when actors play a cold, stoic or emotionless character that's when an actors skills can really come through. Because it requires a range of acting ability to still get the characters emotions across without the big acting. It really relies on them utilizing micro-expressions or they just come across as a boring and bland block of wood. Most actors think 'cold and stoic' means never changing their facial expressions which is the worst acting decision they can make. Even if people are cold and stoic they still make expressions. But that's why I hated him in Gangnam Beauty, because his face never changed from the exact same expression through the entire drama. In my opinion, that's not acting, that was him reading lines.

I actually recall seeing Standing in Time and being interested but totally forgot about it! But Xing Zhao Lin is also in this and I'm really liking him in The World Owes Me a First Love so I'll add it to my to-watch list.

I also loved King's Avatar! I binge watched that in like 4 days lol

And thanks!

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Lol! This little puppy can't act, but like little puppies you just want to pet him for trying. I crushed on him for a while after Rookie Historian and stalked Youtube for clips, and he is much more charming in bts when he is just being himself.

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Last weekend was a rough one for me. One of my favorite foster kittens didn't make it. He was my favorite, and i tried so hard to keep him from fading, but he kept getting weaker and weaker. I saw his decline and learned later on from the shelter that they had to put him to sleep. I loved him sooooo much because he was the sweetest boy. RIP my little one. Giving them away after fostering is not the most difficult part. The hardest part is when they do not thrive and you see them deteriorating.

Onto dramas...

father is strange: I'm close to the end where things are getting serious. I missed the light hearted moments and comedy that hooked me in the beginning of the show. I will miss the Byun family for sure. Lee Joon is gold.

Hopefully this weekend will be a better one for me and everyone!

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i'm so sorry.

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Hello all:
I finally got that nonfiction book that's been bottlenecking my creative life done! I feel free and kinda unmoored. Trying to get back into fiction mode and listening to Childs ballads. It's a lovely gray autumn day and in the move i found my old binoculars so it's a good day to wander around the park.

Dramas:

Loving all the dramas i'm watching.
Tale of Nokdu is so funny. I don't care one fig for the royal intrigue in this one so i fast-forward. The little girl in love with Nokdu is hilarious.

My Country. Oh the gravitas! Love me some warriors, esp hottie warriors who are on the journey toward ruthlessness.

Miss Lee: I haven't hated a villain as much as i hate that icky troublemaker. So realistic, esp the depiction of the relationships and of the confused chaebol. There probably won't be a love story but if there is, it'll probably be very realistic and i don't even know who heroine would end up with. Feels nicely unpredictable, as real life should be.

Camellia: Am not liking Jong-Ryeol's wife and just wanting them divorced already. I hate the writers giving her a reason for her bad behavior by hinting that her hubby's obsession with Dong Baek affected her. Wifey was creepy before the marriage what with the backstory she and her mom are hiding. Please do not give her a redemption arc. As for dementia mom, this town has too many secrets. Love lawyer wife.

The Lies within -- solid good thriller. Minki is super mature looking.

Pegasus Market -- loving it, so funny. And love is beginning to bloom.

Extraordinary You -- Writer better not be in a coma or reliving some horrible trauma or some such contrivance that says the entire thing is in his imagination. I just don't want that but i love the drama anyway.

Melting Me Softly... very cute.

Have a great weekend, all.

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Congratulations on finishing with that book! I hope you had a nice autumn day's ramble. 😄

I'm still loving Camellia and Pegasus and still watching Melt Me with a squint and tongue in cheek because I still think it's meant to be some kind of joke. I'm enjoying them anyway!!

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There's a newish(?) k-actor that I've seen a lot of this year (or maybe posts about him just draws my attention and sticks). Lee Jae Wook? From WWW and Extraordinary You(?)

I haven't seen his dramas at all but just from fanposts I'm already prettty smitten with him. This isn't normal. I barely know and have seen him. But he's still young but he has a factor and charisma that a lot of older actors have, and doesn't conform to today's standards either. It draws me to him. I kind of wish he'd be casted as a lead in such a work that would make use of that so I can jump on board. As of now I'm not ready yet to deep dive, to give my heart and soul to this newcomer who might get buried in this cruel industry by idols/actors with more clout.

My interest is piqued but trying to hold on to sanity.

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He was in Memories of the Alhambra. You should have seen the shock we all had seeing him from MoA to WWW.

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Whoa he was in there too! Perhaps he wasn't mentioned too much there so I didn't know. It's awesome to know he's having interesting diversity as well as back to back dramas, and hopefully it won't dry up soon unless he wants a break. I feared a bit because (I think he's so handsome but) he's not the typical look that explodes one's popularity nowadays so he has his work cut out for him in this looks oriented industry. :(

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