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When the Camellia Blooms: Episodes 9-10

Our budding couple is facing opposition from all corners, and they’re not even officially together yet! But while they look to the future, others are grappling with revelations from the past. Can the past be left behind or will the residents of Ongsan find that the past was never past in the first place?

  
EPISODE 9: A Wish, an Affair, and Turmoil

Yong-shik and Dong-baek walk in silence as they share an umbrella in the pouring rain. To break the silence, Yong-shik suggests they go to Gaebu Island to eat giant dumplings together. Dong-baek gets flustered, asking why they would travel all that way just for dumplings.

She tells him that going to an island, then “accidentally” missing the last ferry is such a cliché (and so uncool of him). Without missing a beat Yong-shik lets her know that a bridge to the island was built a decade ago.

They’re cozy under their umbrella…until Pil-gu pops up from a side alley and stares Yong-shik down. The next thing we see is Yong-shik trailing behind them on his own. Pil-gu asks why “that ajusshi” is tagging along with them before cutting to the chase: Does Yong-shik likes his mom? If that’s the case, Yong-shik shouldn’t come by the Camellia anymore because Pil-gu hates any man who likes his mom.

Men all say they like her, but they don’t treat her with respect. Yong-shik tries to assure Pil-gu that he’s not like that, but Pil-gu doesn’t let up. All men are the same, and he hates all men who are interested in his mom. After all, even his own dad left them.

A drunk Jong-ryeol waves a credit card statement in Jessica’s face, asking her how she managed to spend five million won on pilates classes (about $5,000). Annoyed, she tells him that she and her mom couldn’t possibly take group classes.

Her mom comes out to back her up and pointedly tells Jong-ryeol that rich and influential people wanted Jessica to be their daughter-in-law. Before she got married, Jessica was an innocent girl who only cared about studying. If he had any shame, he wouldn’t be quibbling over money.

Jong-ryeol doesn’t waver and tells them they need to understand that some people can’t go to Qingdao because of 480,000 won (meaning Pil-gu, but of course they don’t know that). His mother-in-law shoos him away and tells him to go to sleep because he’s drunk and spouting nonsense.

Kyu-tae and Hyang-mi are on their way back from their water ski trip and they make small talk, which mostly involves Hyang-mi pouring on the flattery with a straight face as Kyu-tae basks in the compliments. She says that if he ever runs for governor, she’ll definitely vote for him because she respects him. Kyu-tae’s practically bursting with glee, and he tells her she can be relax around him and to think of him as a mentor. She agrees at once, telling him they’re already close.

In front of Dong-baek and Pil-gu’s house, Yong-shik earnestly tells Pil-gu that he won’t do anything if Pil-gu doesn’t approve. Pil-gu tells him to stop coming by the Camellia and to stop acting friendly if they run into each other at the arcade. Yong-shik understands, he was the same way as a kid trying to protect his mom (which Pil-gu can’t believe because Deok-soon’s so tough). Yong-shik promises he won’t do anything to mess up Pil-gu’s life, and that he’ll try to score points with Pil-gu in his own way.

Kyu-tae asks Hyang-mi whether she likes trout just as we see Jong-ryeol at home, asking himself why both mother and son bug him so much. In contrast, Yong-shik grins and thinks aloud that both mother and son are too adorable.

As Yong shik walks home he hears a strange beeping sound. From afar, he gets a glimpse of a hooded figure and looks down to see an empty glass bottle and shoe prints. He wonders what anyone would be doing in a random empty alley.

Kyu-tae brings up his favorite trout restaurant (again) and says he doesn’t take just anyone there. Hyang-mi asks him whether this means she’ll be first lady once he’s governor, since today is their first day as a couple. Kyu-tae covers his shock with some fake laughter at her “attempt at humor.” With a straight face, Hyang-mi says she’s not trying to be funny and asks him why they went on a trip together if they’re not dating.

If looks could kill! Ja-young stares out the window as she thinks to herself that it’s morning and her useless husband didn’t come home the night before. She prints out Kyu-tae’s credit card statement and highlights the water skiing expenses in pink. There’s even a charge for a wakeboarding outfit.

Kyu-tae tells Hyang-mi they should hang out some time, but the trip was a one time thing. Hyang-mi’s quick on the uptake: Despite water skiing together, they’re not having an affair. They took a trip together, but it wasn’t a date. She ends her summary by telling him that crooks cannot become governors.

He’s taken aback at her change in attitude. Kyu-tae emphasizes that water skiing is a wholesome sport and that they only stayed overnight because of a car malfunction. Hyang-mi sarcastically shoots back that he should have brought his wife instead. She asks if he’s worried people will bash them and ominously tells him the world’s not a fair place.

Meanwhile, Deok-soon is upset and at a loss on what to do. Chan-sook and Jae-young add fuel to the fire by telling her there’s no time to waste, she needs to act. Give Yong-shik an ultimatum: Is it me or Dong-baek? Deok-soon says she’d never say something so uncool and yells at them to leave.

At the police station, Yong-shik wonders if they could find saliva or fingerprints like in CSI Miami. Chief Byun tells him to just transfer to Miami (hee!) and asks why the forensics team would bother testing a random bottle Yong-shik found on the street. He yells at Yong-shik not to waste his time and abruptly gets up. The chief grabs the Joker case files, slipping one file out, then hands the rest over to Yong-shik.

At home, Kyu-tae scarfs down a meal and gets a fright when Ja-young is suddenly next to him, asking how the food tastes. She says it’s interesting that he just had to go to a funeral on one of the few days her mom was visiting. Ah, that explains why he wore a suit to water ski. He coughs, but she continues, telling him that her mother still brought the cod head stew he loves so much.

Kyu-tae tells her that liver cancer is scary, but Ja-young corrects him–colon cancer, he said his friend’s wife died suddenly of colon cancer. He has trouble keeping his story straight and while he blathers, she thinks back to when they first met. Ja-young had found his inability to hide anything refreshing compared to her guarded personality. In the present, she laments that he’s too transparent to even hide an affair.

She sits down and asks why he would need sunscreen and sunglasses to attend a funeral at night. Kyu-tae has a coughing fit and she just takes it in. With a cold anger, she states that if people get addicted to the taste of forbidden fruit, they could end up in the fiery pits of hell. Ja-young leaves him to choke on his guilt.

Yong-shik diligently looks over the Joker case files and comes across crime scene photos of footprints that look eerily similar to the ones he saw near Dong-baek’s house.

At the Camellia, Hyang-mi and Dong-baek are sorting the recycling and wonder why random bottles (the same brand as the one Yong-shik found) are mixed with theirs. Hyang-mi playfully points out that Yong-shik and Dong-baek are like the Brangelina of Ongsan. She tells Dong-baek not to worry because parents opposing their children’s partners are only real in dramas. Dong-baek says she’d listen to her parents. But you can only understand how awful that is once you’ve experienced it.

Hyang-mi is all ears at that and tells Dong-baek to spill. She’s the perfect person to tell secrets to–she has a bad memory and is totally thoughtless. Dong-baek tells her it was a nasty breakup and that she couldn’t be understanding like she usually was.

Even as a child, Dong-baek was never welcome anywhere because she was an orphan. People felt bad for the gloomy kid, but no one wanted to befriend her. Then she met “him” at 22; he became her entire universe and she was utterly consumed by love. We see Jong-ryeol and Dong-baek’s relationship, with lots of fighting over silly reasons and making up (with lots of tears).

At 25 her bliss was shattered when Jong-ryeol’s mother refused to accept her. She’d met with Dong-baek alone and told her she hated Dong-baek. Jong-ryeol had tried to console her by telling her he can win over his mother, but ends up speechless when he hears what his mother called Dong-baek: “a lump of germs.” In the end, Jong-ryeol’s mom wasn’t the reason they broke up.

In the present, Hyang-mi jumps to the conclusion that Dong-baek got cheated on and calls Pil-gu’s dad a jerk. Dong-baek says she doesn’t hold any grudges because she has Pil-gu, calling it even. Hyang-mi thoughtfully says that if either of their moms had been like Dong-baek, their lives probably would have been happier.

Yong-shik sits Chief Byun down to ask for advice. Is conflict between a daughter-in-law and mother-in-law an unsurmountable challenge? Raising an eyebrow, Chief Byun quips not to worry, Yong-shik doesn’t even have a girlfriend yet. He then muses out loud that a daughter-in-law and mother-in-law relationship without conflict is something that only exists in fiction or paradise.

At Deok-soon’s restaurant, Chief Byun thinks he knows who Yong-shik is interested in, but he’s off the mark as usual. Rolling his eyes, Yong-shik clarifies that it’s Dong-baek. He’s liked her since he first laid eyes on her and the entire neighborhood knows. Hilariously, Chief Byun asks if his mom knows and just then Doek-soon purposefully elbows Yong-shik in the head. Question answered.

Ja-young is waiting for her mother-in-law, when she happens to spot a bright wakeboarding outfit hanging outside a laundromat. She narrates that she wants to hide her hurt pride, but she walks over to check the customer tag on the outfit. Grabbing the tag, she stares at the customer name: The Camellia.

In the car, Ja-young’s mother-in-law drops hints about what she’s expecting for her upcoming birthday. Ja-young is not having it and tells her mother-in-law that she’s not in the mood to cook a birthday feast. Ja-young breaks things down by saying Kyu-tae really takes after his father (who ran off to be with a young bar girl). His mother angrily refuses to believe this, but Ja-young doesn’t care, she has somewhere important to be–the salon.

Yong-shik tries to reason with his mother and lists Dong-baek’s good qualities, but Deok-soon gives him an ultimatum: is it Deok-soon or Dong-baek? He refuses to choose and asks to talk it out but Deok-soon insists on reminding him how hard it was for her to raise him on her own. She tells him that dating a single mom is a step too far. Clapping his hands, Young-shik tells her it’s “buy one, get one free” deal because she would be getting both a daughter-in-law and grandson at once.

Deok-soon angrily tells him to come to make a choice. Unrelenting, he says he’ll make a choice, he chooses Deok-soon and Dong-baek. Deok-soon scoffs and tells him to stop seeing Dong-baek for two months to prove that this isn’t a fleeting infatuation. He loudly, proudly, shouts that his love for Dong-baek will last longer than two months, his love is forever!

EPISODE 10

In the salon, Ja-young asks for the director. They refuse to accommodate her until Ja-young tells them she’s on her way to see her husband’s mistress. At that, they all rush to beautify her. Ja-young thinks to herself that once her pride is hurt, there’s no stopping her. At the Camellia, Ja-young cooly informs Dong-baek that her lease for the Camellia will end in December.

Ja-young refuses to listen to Dong-baek’s pleas, won’t increase rent, and will only accept a contract termination. She warns Dong-baek that if provoked, she might actually lose it. Before she goes, Ja-young fires off a parting shot: she doesn’t like Dong-baek’s face, skin or voice. Wow.

Yong-shik rushes over just then with a stolen bag of red chili powder for Dong-baek, but he stops to see her looking so down. He asks what’s wrong and why she looks like a sad cow. She just mutters that she’s gotten on her landlord’s bad side.

Jong-ryeol is back in Ongsan, doing his car lurker routine. School’s out and he’s annoyed to see Hyang-mi show up. Pil-gu and Hyang-mi walk home and they talk about Yong-shik, who currently ranks fourth (out of four) on Pil-gu’s list of Most Hated Men. Seeing how hot Pil-gu is, Hyang-mi suddenly asks if he wants to ride in a car. At Pil-gu’s confusion, Hyang-mi turns and waves at Jong-ryeol, who’d been creeping behind them the whole time.

At the Camellia, Dong-baek asks Yong-shik to give up on her since everyone is against their dating. He agrees to be more careful with how he acts. With his mom’s ultimatum in mind, he says he’ll take a strategic retreat and before he can explain, she stops him and says he doesn’t need to say anymore.

She’s Dong-baek, no one likes Dong-baek. She’s used to it though, so she’ll be okay. But no one can love you like a mother and she tells Yong-shik to listen to his mother’s wishes.

In the car, Pil-gu asks why Jong-ryeol never trains and is always in Ongsan lately. Hyang-mi starts making some uncomfortable comments that make it pretty clear she knows who Jong-ryeol really is. Not one for subtleties, she tells him Dong-baek’s getting kicked out by her landlord so Jong-ryeol should just buy the building.

Back at the police station, Chief Byun opens up about the Joker and hands over the final case file. He begins with a video, security footage of a mass. The final victim was a friend of Dong-baek whom she’d met at church.

It’s a warm summer day and Dong-baek’s agreed to test out a second-hand tanning machine bed her friend bought. She climbs into the machine, despite some reservations about its creaky lid. While Dong-baek’s tanning, the aesthetician unni takes a reservation from someone over the phone. For some reason, the person seems intent on knowing if the woman is alone, and she cheerfully says there’s no one around, so she can take an appointment immediately.

Someone rings the clinic’s bell and the unni lets them in with a smile, but the smile falters as she’s met with silence. The person is dressed all in black, hood up, hat and face mask on, and gloves. The unni makes a run for it, but it’d no use. The Joker switches off the lights and turns up the music. As Dong-baek tans inside the machine, her friend is brutally murdered.

Just as the Joker is about to leave, the tanning bed beeps. Realizing someone is still there, the Joker frantically searches for whoever is left, coughing all the while. Dong-baek hears the hoarse coughing and thinks it must be a customer. She asks her friend to open the machine and starts banging on the lid.

The Joker finally realizes where Dong-baek is and tries to yank the machine open. Dong-baek sees a bloody cord and gloved hand, but the machine won’t open far enough for the Joker to reach inside. Before the Joker can get to Dong-baek, the fire alarm and sprinklers suddenly go off and the Joker escapes through the window.

Soon after, the police are on the scene, collecting evidence. They realize that the Joker must have been unfamiliar with the clinic since they didn’t know to check inside the tanning machine. Dong-baek is escorted out by the police in but they fail to keep her identity a secret.

Later on, Chief Byun is visiting Dong-baek and she tells him she can’t live like this any longer. There’s nothing more for to say, she only saw the Joker from behind. Answering Chief Byun’s questions, she mentions that someone might have knocked on the door before the alarm and sprinklers went off but she can’t be sure. He wonders why the sprinklers were set off and tells her that they saved her life.

Yong-shik closes the case file as Chief Byun recounts that her luck saved her back then, but since everyone in the neighborhood knows Dong-baek was there, the Joker must know too. Yong-shik asks if the Joker stopped murdering people after meeting Dong-baek. Chief Byun replies there’s no way to know if the Joker stopped or is just taking a break.

With a crazy look in his eyes (the flared nostrils are back!), Yong-shik says he’ll catch the Joker and protect Dong-baek at all costs. As epic music plays, he dashes across a busy street…only to be shouted at by his mom for jaywalking. She’s at the police station to report the theft of a bag of red chili powder.

Abashed, he confesses that he took it, and he has one more confession to make: he can’t keep away from Dong-baek for two months as per his mom’s request. In response, Deok-soon goes after him with a foam tube she finds on the side of the road.

She asks him if the 30 years she raised him mean nothing, but he says if he doesn’t protect Dong-baek now, he’ll regret it for the next 30 years. He pleads with his mom, she left him to his own devices for 30 years, can’t she cut him a break one more time? Before she can do anything, he runs away from her.

Dong-baek closes up at the Camellia and starts her walk home. As she walks, she keeps turning around every few steps, as if expecting Yong-shik to run up to her. When she reaches her house, she gives one last look, then whispers that she almost fell for him and heads inside. Yong-shik misses her by seconds and as he wonders if she got in safely, hears that beeping sound again. He sets off on a run and pursues the shadowy figure through the neighborhood’s alleys. He finally manages to catch up and grabs their wrist.

  
COMMENTS

Is it possible to just keep on loving this show and for it to get better and better? Every side character is so lovingly drawn up, so much so that I feel like a part of this quaint town that loves to gossip and constantly gets things wrong. In some respects, When the Camellia Blooms feels so incredibly real, and like any good slice of life drama, I just want it to center on Dong-baek’s journey towards self-acceptance and growth. She’s been given the short end of the stick at every step of her life: she grew up neglected and shunned because she was an orphan, had to raise Pil-gu with no financial help, and she was at the scene when her close friend was murdered. It’s easy to understand why she’s so self-reliant and feels like she doesn’t need anyone except for Pil-gu. The walls are up mainly because everyone else in her life has either moved on or been wiped away, which is absolutely devastating.

But it’s not only Dong-baek who has me so thoroughly invested, I am living for Yong-shik and his fierce declarations of love. Along with his sweet nature, his greatest asset is that’s he’s an open book and just fearless when it comes to expressing his feelings. For a while, the way he made his interest and feelings for Dong-baek known was a little uncomfortable. So while he hasn’t always been great at respecting boundaries, he has been great at at being committed and unwilling to care about other people’s judgements of them. He’s clearly in love with her. So much so, that he would go head to head with his mom for her.

But at the same time, it’s not like he’s choosing Dong-baek over his mom, he wants his mother to come around to the “buy one, get one free” perspective. I love how he’s so accepting of Pil-gu, and the way he phrases situations in the dorkiest (but somehow spot on) ways had me cracking this entire episode. I especially love the bickering relationship he has with Chief Byun.

Little man Pil-gu’s quick wit and bodyguard instincts make me go awww every time he’s on screen; he’s clearly taken a lot upon himself. I’m warming up to Jong-ryeol too, it must be tough to suddenly find out you have a son. I think he’s a good man, and judging from the way he can’t seem to stay away from Pil-gu gives me hope that he’ll be able to step up as a father. The comedic beats and the music in the show really complement every character, so Jong-ryeol’s humourous scenes have made him so much more likable. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for Jessica or Kyu-tae. Kyu-tae in particular makes my blood boil at his attitude towards his wife. The fact that I am now actually rooting for Ja-young to be set free from her toxic marriage or work with how broken it has become, goes to show how remarkably interesting I find her. She’s just a supporting character, but she and all the other side characters are so fully realized that they fill up the screen.

The thriller aspect I feel is well integrated into the plot now, with just the right amount of heightened tensions and ominousness foreboding. When the Joker was about to open the machine Dong-baek was in, my heart froze for a few seconds. I have my suspicions on who the Joker might be (Heung-shik the handyman?) but I’m more interested in finding out whether any of the victims had any connections and why he was so fixated with them. Brrr creepy stuff.

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I see how the women in this serial is so resourceful and "strong." Not only Dong-baek and Mrs. Kwak, but also other women around them who work at the Ongsan food alleys, and Ja-yeong.

I don't blame Mrs. Kwak's reaction to know that Yong-shik is head over heels to Dong-baek, but her reaction is very natural as a mother. But she doesn't make it very dramatic like we see often in Kdrama.

@fencejumper, thanks for raising suspicion to Heung-shik. He could be Joker, as he's someone who get free access to Camellia without raising any suspicion from Dong-baek or other people. But the cough though.... he sounds like someone who has problem with his lungs...

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After hearing that cough this episode, I immediately went back to watch a scene from ep 2 between some of the townsfolk. It was just a typical one of some of the women badmouthing Dong-baek and the men coming to her defense in the background, but I had remembered smoking being mentioned. Heung-shik was one of them though and I got chills rewatching because he very subtly covers up a cough when mentioning Dong-baek doesn't like smoking. So far, this has been his most suspicious moment for me.

Still, I can't seem to shake the feeling that Hyang-mi is involved somehow...

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I should re-watch that episode though... Did you mean episode 2 as in 1-2 or in 3-4?

Hyangmi is super suspicious... So far, we don't know much further yet how she ended in Dong-baek's and what's she plans with Copenhagen thing.. One is clear, she's trying to get money from Gyung-tae...

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Episode 3-4. The scene is about 17 minutes in.

And after watching again I agree with other commenters here that Yong-shik needs to finally go follow up on Yeong-shim's dog. They also mention a fire at Yeong-shim's in this scene, caused by a cigarette.

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This show really knows its characters.

At the point where we drill down into individual's stories (normally where many drama's suffer), this world feels to be getting bigger not smaller. For me, it's like we can sense the momentum of the world beyond driving the story. Its like an ice berg - even through this small lens - characters' incidental actions hint at that larger mass lying unseen beneath the surface.

It is also so rare for a show to have a world where so many of the characters persist even when they aren't on screen. They almost function like after images haunting the thoughts of our characters, even controlling their actions. If this show goes really dark, this is what could tip it over the edge to being really hold-your-breath claustrophobic.

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I think the Joker is a team of Hyang-mi (who smokes a lot) and the handy-man together(who gave the paint to Young-shik and so must have been at the bar with the lighter). The Joker stopped the killing streak coz Dong-baek told the police that she saw a man at the crime scene which was untrue.
I also think that she commits suicide in the end and the note in her pocket is to tell all that she was the Joker.
It would also be great if the dog and the puppies thingy that the Chief wants Young-shik to investigate ties up to the story somehow coz everyone keeps mentioning it!
Just a theory though...
Love this drama!

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That Young-shim person (which we haven't seen yet) and the dogs Young shik is supposed to visit has become a sort of running joke in the show, it would be hilarious if it turns out into something of importance.

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Maybe the owner has a cough
But I bet Pil-gu gets a Puppy!

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I think so, too! What Yong Shik has been brushing aside for so long might actually be a vital clue! So who really gathered those puppies? ^^

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*fathered. Sigh, autocorrect.

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I think it is the handyman.

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You think the handyman fathered the puppies? Well that would certainly be a twist.

your comment right after the question about who fathered the puppies made me laugh

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I love this drama to bits!! And Yong Shik ruffling this hair is all kinda adorable. Well, everything YS says and does makes me go to flutter territory!!

My original suspect was the handyman since they showed the lighter guy with white gloves (earlier episode). Then this episode I got a feeling it was a woman. Something about the way the killer moved.
Are there two killers working in tandem? BecAuse someone saved Dong Baek in that shop. So one of them wanted to save her and not kill her. Now am convinced there are two of them working together!! A male and a female :)

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That's interesting! But I think Joker is a loner, but there is someone who suspect him and that's the person who saved DB with fire alarm. My money is on one of the henpecked husband.

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Also the fact the show spoke about woman power in this town, I think the killer may as well me 'woman'.

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I think that the killers like that feel treated inadequate and that almost entire male population of that town, and most serial killers are males, but I'm in, if they come with good motive for a lady killer.

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Now you have me wondering and think I should go back and rewatch the earlier episodes. Personally I have been so enthralled and entranced by Yong-Shik and his amazing emotional depth.
All of the characters are delightful. Personally I'm hoping at the end someone else will be wearing that bracelet and it won't be Dong-baek.

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My first thought is the Scary Lawyer is the killer, cleaning up the messes of her husband.

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Nah, she doesn't care for her husband that much and we already saw that she has no problem confronting her husband and his suspected lovers in open.

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I am somewhat starting to suspect her mom, something eerie with the way she acts. Maybe if there are two killers, the mom wants her daughter to be saved thus, activating the sprinklers and alarm

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@mayhemf,

I also got the impression that the killer in the salon was female from the way s/he moved.

I hadn't thought of the possibility of a pair of killers working together. Very clever.

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What if it's Chief Byun who's the Joker? 😱

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He is also one of my suspects but the wallet though, I have seen that wallet before...

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Love the show so far and it's characters and I actually think the murder mistery blends well with the show. I'm glad Young Shik's mom knows about his feelings for Dongbaek so we can get that out of the way and hopefuly we wont get the cliche parent who makes them break up later.

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DB being so nasty to Yongshik at the start of the episode gave me idea that her childhood experience cause her to self sabotaging her relationships, not consciously of course.
I really started liking JaYoung a lot too, she is very self aware, I really like people/characters like that, but weirdly this is the show where I like male characters more, Yongshik, Pilgu and JongRyeol, I'm really rooting for them.

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I think she subconsciously believes she is not good enough and she is not lucky. As more and more people have treated her that way, she started to believe its true. She needs to learn to love herself and believe in herself. She is not someone who is pitiable.
That's why I love YS.. he constantly reminds her how great she is.. Ah, I love him..

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I think we are the only ones that like JongRyeol.

I kind of like the lawyer but I don't understand why stays married to a guy she seems to despise so that makes me question her true self.

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I was on the fence about JR but now I do like him. I understand his position. He suddenly came to know that he has a son from his ex. He feels responsible and is having some paternal instincts, but is not sure how to channel it.
Whatever happened has happened, I hope these 2 sit down and talk about what role JR wants to play before it starts affecting PilGu. I would hate PG finding out himself. That kid is smart.

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It has already affected PilGu, remember when he yelled at YS when found he was interested in his mom? He mistrusts all men near his mother. There was also a scene in which he spoke about his father and it was a crazy thing, if I find it I'll post here, also scenes in which he shows he missed another parent or relative, like when YS held him up high and he was surprised by how nice it felt.

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Little Pil Gu and his protectiveness of mom gets to me every time. I love Yong Shik for respecting that and trying his best to win him over. They are going to make a cute family! Please don't ruin that, show! [Offer plenty of Subway to drama god]

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Did JR leave her because of his mom? When I watched this ep I didn't understand that but now I'm thinking that's what she said? I was so surprised when she called it even because of PG that I didn't get the reason.

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I don't remember exactly what she said, but I think JR's mom disapproval played a big part in their parting. Her relationship with JR didn't end happily and caused her great pain, but out of that relationship, she has Pil Gu, her greatest joy. I think that's what she meant by things even out.

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She said the guy has to step up. I don't know what he did or did not do. If we know what her mom did, it makes perfect sense she would leave him after his mom told her that. I thought it was so incredibly selfish to call that it even. Who cares if the relationship ended badly? The kid has nothing to do with that. He is her greatest joy and JR never got to have even the chance to meet the kid because that was easier for her.

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Yes, I think the mother played the big part. And JR did not fight for her (because he finds her pitiable and was not someone he cherished). I think she left him because of the hurt and disappointment.
She wanted to have a family with JR, so she considered PilGu as the parting gift.
I don’t agree with her logic but that’s what I think transpired and believe to be her reasoning.

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Yes, that's what I'm thinking happened too. Exactly that idea, that the kid was a gift!
If he did not fight for her, for whatever reason, he well deserves to loose her, but he would never deserve not to know he had a child. She did it to punish him and because it would be easier if PG was only hers, it's incredibly selfish. If the story doesn't tell us something that justifies that, I can never like her character.

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I believe it takes two to make a relationship works. From what we saw of their past relationship, they were both young and immature. She had low self esteem and JR did not do enough to reassure her. When the mom blow came, the relationship crumbled. She was hurt by that. And when you're hurt, other people's feeling is not high on priority list, especially your ex's. I don't think she did it to punish him. If she were, she would tell him at some point and deliberately make him suffers. She thought it was perfectly okay to raise Pil Gu on her own and I am sure PG, the little protective man that he is, never told her he miss/need a dad. I doubt the drama will elaborate more on DB-JR relationship. I am just glad that JR is not a total douche and still care for PG.

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I don't blame her for leaving him, she had every right to do it. I do think part of the reason she felt she had the right to keep the child hidden was the fact she felt hurt by him and this is why I say she punished him even if not consciously and her own kid.

She didn't need anyone to tell her kids need parents, she knew that better than everyone. I don't think they will elaborate on their past either, probably because the writer thinks she had reason to do what she did.

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this is the episode that had that smile i rewound about 10 million times

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Who would have thought that a tanning bed could be such a lifesaver! Was really on the edge of my seat with that scene, it was so close!

I think the one who triggered the fire alarm could be DB’s mom. It looks like she has been watching DB from afar for quite some time.

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The whole flashback was horrifying - it dawned on me then that I haven't really been watching a romcom this whole time, I've been watching a thriller. So much pathos was created for the Unni who died, I had flashbacks to watching Signal.

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Some dramas do secondary characters so well. This is one of the best. We know the personalities of everyone in Dong Baek's circle. There is no one here who is Extra Mr 13 or Nameless. One of my fave minor characters is the police chief. So patient, kind-hearted, and weirdly clueless but competent at the same time. I'm not a fan of Dong baek's employee though. Not because she is willing to extort our besotted needer-of-respect but because since everyone is on a scale of love/acceptance, she fills the spot of either A) being someone who seemingly loves but who might very well turn on Dong Baek if enough money was offered or B) someone who truly has not yet learned to love Dong Baek in the way a true friend should. I could be overly suspicious but either she is clueless that her shenanigans have affected our heroine or she simply puts her own needs above Dong Baek. I think there might come a time when Dong Baek realizes that she has accepted a "friend" because she was desperate for one. Will see. But i'm paranoid like that. Thanks for the recap and great analysis of this great show.

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I think she is aware of the false assumptions made about Dong-baek but she hasn't corrected them it's one of the reasons I cant warm to her entirely even though I kinda of like her

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i think Dong Baek has made false assumptions of her. When we're desperate for friends....the people we hook up with!

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Good point. It's easy to overlook someone's darker side when you have no one else.

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I still suspect that Hyun-shik as the Joker but i'm open to any suprise because with a community like that anyone can be a suspect especially the men...(he did have flower on him when Dong Baek made that innocent comment that eyed her)

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I am more interested in how this drama really is becoming a village version of "Gothic Suburbia" than who is actually the JOKER.

This drama may become really unsettling in what it says about everyones motives and the shallowness of community's assumptions. It will make us all look into the mirror and see how/why we label "others", and the self-deceptions we use to protect ourselves.

Strangely it will do this with the warmest of hearts - I really can't think of another KDrama like it.

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Me too, I am thinking that he has some schizophrenia or something. He does not act right. I mean I know how he lives dong bark but there is something about him. I hope not. I hope I am mistaken.

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I echo the love for Ja-young; there are plenty of lovable characters here, but this woman being even cooler than the lovely ladies in Be Melodramatic makes her my favourite.

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There are so many moments in this where I just laugh out loud—like I don’t even mean too. And I really have no anxiety about the Joker anymore. If he kills DB, I’ll be beside myself.

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Thanks for the recap, @fencejumper!

I've really been enjoying this show, though traveling without a computer has kept me off the recaps until now. I'm not sure what I'm more excited about, Kang Ha-neul getting this show for his first leading role or Gong Hyo-jin getting this as her comeback after 3 long years. I absolutely love them together here. Their dynamic is weird and adorable and awkward. Just my thing!

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Completely agree! Gong Hyu-jin tends to be hit or miss for me; sometimes I totally buy into her character (Master's Sun), sometimes the sad-sack face and shrinking body language just make me impatient for forward momentum (Greatest Love) but it is totally believable here, and I am buying in to the slow evolution of her feelings and the reason for them.
And Kang Ha-Neul... I am so glad he has this opportunity because he is a fabulous actor and he is just knocking it out of the park. He is one of the few actos where I can see something to admire and appreciate in every single role, and here he has this larger than life character who is also incredibly nuanced - a buffoon with incredible strength and dignity, capable of a huge horse laugh or some quiet wise words; it is a part worthy of him.

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@skelly
Sure, Kang Ha-Neul can pull of a great smile...but the reason he works so well here is that his comic timing is surprisingly sharp.

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Part 1 of 2

Thank you for your recap, @fencejumper! I’m playing catch-up, and posted some observations in the ep. 7-8 recap thread.

High Weirdness Alert: At about 0:01:40, as Yong-shik and Dong-baek walk under one umbrella in the rain at night, the house number sign on the left side of the screen is reversed! It shows backwards 131. The filter makes me suspect that this is some kind of oddball scene. I would have thought it was a flashback or possible future that never came to pass. WTH?! Are we supposed to discount/ignore what's about to play out in the scene?

LOL at Pil-gu emerging from an alley to their left and slowly raising the edge of his turquoise-and-yellow umbrella to peer balefully up at them from below the bared fangs of the Killer Bunny graphic directly above his face. What a spoof of every romantic umbrella-in-the-rain scene since THE CLASSIC, and more recently, THE BEST HIT. Pil-gu warns Yong-shik that he hates all the men who like his mom. LOL at the way Yong-shik is evicted from the adults' larger umbrella and exiled to the smaller Killer Bunny bumbershoot. Which looks totally ridiculous with the love-struck but presently well-behaved cop strolling good-naturedly under it. Yong-shik takes it in stride and doesn't seem to be upset. He remembers feeling protective of his mom when he was Pil-gu’s age.

Kleptomaniac Hyang-mi is riding in Peanut Moocher's car, presumably on the same dark and rainy night, when she opens the glove compartment and filches something small, which I cannot see clearly. She puts it in her pants pocket. What the heck did she steal? – Her threatening vibe creeps me out as she asks Lord No if she’ll be the First Lady of Ongsan.

As Yong-shik reads the case files of the Joker murders, we see the most recent one in a horrifying flashback to 2013. Dong-baek goes to her friend's skincare salon and takes the newly-acquired second-hand tanning bed for a spin. It is obvious to me that the esthetician is the target, and that the killer has no idea anyone else is on the premises because she stated she was not busy. Only when the killer hears the tanning bed's timer go off does s/he realize someone else is in the salon. When Dong-baek calls out to her friend for help opening the recalcitrant hinges, the killer comes over and partially raises it enough for her to see the garotte s/he's holding. S/he wrestles with it, but cannot force it open before the fire alarm and overhead sprinkler suddenly activate – despite the absence of fire. That was a fortuitous deus ex machina – or was it? Was there a power surge or short circuit? Perhaps it was Dong-baek’s guardian angel.

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What struck me about Joker was that nasty cough. It sounded as if s/he has a serious chronic condition such as tuberculosis, COPD, or maybe a bad case of the flu, or walking pneumonia. The killer could be a smoker who has developed lung issues.

After seeing the killer in action, I get the impression that s/he is actually a hit man. That is why s/he appears to be a serial killer – because that's what s/he technically is. But I really think s/he's a killer for hire, perhaps one who cleans up messes left in the wake of highly-placed individuals – such as inconvenient illegitimate children.

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The killer in the flashback was coughing a lot, and badly. None of the current suspects is coughing that much, or even noticeably. And so far, there hasn’t been any mention of someone having COPD or something similar.

Something doesn’t fit...

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Why do i feel like DB's eomma has been protecting her since the killing accident at ok aesthetic? Before they met, I think DB's eomma always follows her daughter to keep her safe. And also, from ep 10, she said that she will do everything for her daughter. And I liked how creepy she looked when she said that! This drama is really mysterious and I am looking forward what will happen next!

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