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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Parasite: This film wormed into my brain, and left me feeling unsettled for days afterwards. The movie feels very Korean to me, yet universal, and I’m not quite sure how Bong Joon-ho did it. I didn’t quite like any of the characters, but I was drawn to our basement-dwelling family; it’s a funny thing to find yourself empathizing with a family of con artists, yet that’s what I ended up doing. Throughout the film, I had this sort of low-grade anxiety about how the entire thing would end, would everyone’s deceptions be found out? How could the film (and the con) be wrapped up in a way that makes sense? That anxiety I’d been nursing ramped all the way up to 11 during the closing act of the movie, basically everything that happens after the flooding. I won’t spoil anything, but Bong Joon-ho managed to create an ending that was both shocking but not totally unexpected. It was the sort of ending where I didn’t feel like I’d called it from the start, but I didn’t feel it came out of nowhere. The slow chipping away of dignity all just gave way in a horrific way. Trying to unwrap all the layers and symbolism could take me months, and it may take just as long to get rid of that post-Parasite uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. I said this after Call Me By Your Name, but I’ll never look at peaches the same way!

 

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Tale of Nokdu: I can’t believe I’m hooked by one of the oldest drama tricks in the book: birth secret angst. Whenever the king is being emo with Nokdu, I’m screaming at the screen “HE’S YOUR SON HE’S YOUR SONNNNN” to stop the king’s evil spiral. But he keeps choosing to be evil. At this point, the best case scenario I can think of is for the king and Yul-moo to off each other so our OTP can live happily ever after. Also, who else loved that our widows are slowly rebuilding their family in Hanyang? It both warms my heart and gets me hyped for the impending war because these ladies are no pushovers and they’ve got a score to settle with two royal a-holes. I wouldn’t want to be Yul-moo or the king soon.

Extraordinary You: Look, Haru is the sweetest angel, and I totally ship him and Dan-oh to live happily ever after. But you can’t deny the draw of Kyung’s angst. I love that this show gets me invested in everyone’s story when they’re literally pulled around like puppets despite their subconscious not wanting to be a one-dimensional jerk. (And that goes for Sae-mi too!) It makes me think of badly written K-dramas. I wonder what the characters would think if they suddenly became aware. “You want me to slap whom with what?! Waste of a good kimchi!” “Why do I have to shower with my clothes on every time I’m sad???”

Her Private Life: I’ve seen Kim Jae-wook be melo, killer (literally), scary, and swoony but I’ve never seen him be this funny. Why, oh why, did he take this long to accept a lead role in a rom-com? Also, why is everything happening so fast?! I think I’m gonna spontaneously combust before I even reach the 8th episode. *fans self* Also, Park Min-young is so adorable. I love her in everything and ship her with everyone.

Search Query: WWW: Done! Despite the draggy slow motion shots of Ta-mi and Mo-gun’s every date and fight and reconciliation, I love this show with all my heart. And yes, IT work is like that. Not the abundance of cute boys and Maseratis, but lots of arguing about the ethics of what you make and balancing it with the need to do business (programmers need to eat too). I love all the office scenes because of that. It makes me want to run off and build a web portal. LOL I also love all the relationships in this show. The sunbae love triangle. Brian’s hands-off, slacker style of management. Ta-mi’s struggle to succeed without turning into another Ga-kyung. Even the lovelines were well done. From Scarlett’s meet-cute to Ta-mi’s pragmatic issues to Ga-kyung’s simmering not-a-marriage. Waaah~ I want to say sooo much and I regret being late to the WWW party. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I got 16 recaps’ worth of comments to lurk in…

 
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Pegasus Market (Episode 7)
Surprisingly, even though there was no procedural event covered in this episode, it felt surprisingly packed with all that Halloween fanfare, which I note that the show wittily referenced Kang Hong Suk’s previous role from Hotel Del Luna. More importantly however, we got Bok Dong starting to worry about collateral damage from the political fight at HQ affecting the mart, which could be his own weakness. I think we will get redemption for Young Goo when all the corruption unravels: I believe Gab will step into the line of fire for him and hopefully this softens his greedy attitude.

Extraordinary You (Episode 21-24)
Baek Kyung was told so many times by Dan Oh where her true feelings lay but he continues to manipulative her and be super vindictive towards Ha Ru. I think it’s super ironic that he thinks the story will go as per planned by the writer: he’s not strictly wrong, but seeing how Dan Oh is saying lines to Ha Ru that should have been said to him should be ringing off his bells since the storyboard happens even if it is not the right characters. I foresee a great tragedy where instead of Ha Ru, Baek Kyung ends up stabbing her instead due to his obsessiveness and struggle against Ha Ru over control.

Tale of Nokdu (Episode 19-22)
If only there wasn’t that stupid revolt which we all know will become the climatic conflict in the next two weeks, I’ll be a happy watcher of this show: a psychologically unstable king would have served as a really nice grey villain, though the history of how he lost his marbles would need some elaboration on and we would have lost the comedy at the first few episodes. I find it a little coincidental that all our village characters survived and it’s instead the major supporting roles that are dropping like flies: I have a feeling Hwang Tae will be the next to go after a misstep on his double agent plays.

Melting Me Softly (Episode 11-12)
So one moment they are talking about Adam and Eve and suddenly our male lead spots a spy camera: yeah the drama is all over the place now. The funny thing is, there were some really nice emotional beats especially when the spotlight was on the family characters: Professor Hwang regretting pushing through the experiment after seeing Nam Tae, Dong Chan comforting his now physically older siblings, though Byung Sim and even Ji Hoon never fail to be atrociously bad. But of course we got Ha Young the backstabber and some random medical emergency to ensure we got a terrible plot.

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Re EY: one of its inspirations is Romeo and Juliet (a close-up of the library shelf where the book Secret can be found show a number of writing references, encyclopedias, and Pride and Prejudice, Romeo and Juliet, Turandot and Merchant of Venice).

We've been given enough clues that Haru and Dan Oh were in a prior tragedy, so Romeo and Juliet seems to be their framework. People think they know this play but in reality they likely just know the ending where the leads die for love and the feuding families reconcile in peace.

The similarities to our couple are glaring but let me take a moment to speak about Count Paris. Count Paris is a young handsome man of status, engaged to Juliet in a political match. However, she doesn't love him and says so. She feels like he stifles her. Throughout the play, he ignores her, calling her his love and his wife. It turns out he truly loves her. When Juliet is dead he mourns her at her grave, and mistakes Romeo who arrives as a graverobber. They fight and Paris dies. Weirdly, Romeo grants Paris his dying wish and buries him beside Juliet, then kills himself. So presumably these (3!) lovers lie together in a grave forever!

So that is, I think, Kyung's basic template. Engaged for political reasons but comes to love Dan Oh anyway. Will not listen when she says she doesn't love him but insists they are together. Dies for her in a cruel misunderstanding. Tied to her through the grave forever, in every incarnation and every book.

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JAPAN -

IF TALKING PAID - 8.5 out of 10. 4 episodes so far. 1st 19 minutes of episode is for deciding who ate an popsicle. Awesome. for many it is a boring show but for me its highly entertaining. Mom vs. Son is building up.
Brother-in-Law is such a nice character.

Marigold in 4 Minutes - 8 out of 10. Manga was awesome and so is show. I'm all in for legal incest. I never had any problem with it ever but some bigot minds can't comprehend basics of human relationships and start their trashtalk. Waiting for Translation.

Quite busy so planning to drop every other show. All these will be mostly liked dropped. Thanks to that Anon for scrapping episodes from Sony Gem.

Grand Maison Tokyo - too many episodes. drama chef 7/10

Ossan's Love - A bit overrated but still fun 7/10

The Man who can't get Married - 6.5/10 I'm not amused

Okazu-Kun in the ad-agency - 7/10 gonna continue. All views for December.

Death Hall - Interesting 6.5/10

We Apply for an Easy job - 7/10 - Slow watch. not gonna drop this everything going south show.

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Someone here is viewer of Terrace House - a reality show and someone here got free android tv box - have you tried getting Sony gem?

Nippon Cheat - both deserve the low ratings

Korean Chinese

Wagebond - ep 14 today. Ep 13 hospital romance scene is on a par with Chang Wook's coma subway romance. 3/10

Romance Blue - 6.5/10 Heroine's voice too feminine?

No Secrets - usual chinese trash. dropped at ep 3. 4/10

Hot Blooded Youth - 4/10 dropped. enough with this nonsense

Gonna try - Fatal Mission and code 13

@cloggie started daily drama? Unasked family - also try Everyboday says Kungdari - better plot than prime time dramas.

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I looked up Kungdari and it sounds really interesting but... I'd be 84 episodes behind!

I like watching 30 mins a day (and switching off my brain) while I'm having my lunch. In Unasked Family there's been a car crash and a heart transplant in the first week,and still it's oddly soothing.

I will snap out of this and watch something more challenging soon.

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I sometimes watch daylies when I need something soothing or unchallenging before sleep... but I dropped Unasked Family after 3eps. Too meek FL, too obvious makjangness... and too much spilled juice 😆 And no fun.

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Family is a headache.
Kungdari has its typical ups and down. befriend the FF button or skip watch then it becomes far more interesting than overhyped prime time dramas.

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Oh, don't get me wrong - it's utter rubbish. I guess I'm just enjoying my daily dose of trash.

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Heh ... Just to clarify the Marigold "incest" for other Beanies, the romance is between adult step-siblings in their late 20's.

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You took all the fun out of it. This was just a tease.
I don't think there is any need to even mention their age status.

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Oops! Sorry. Not my intention to spoil your fun. That's my Public Media side wanting to give context.

Is it the case that Japanese TV and film explore taboos like relationships between teachers and students or semi-related partners more than other Asian countries? I couldn't even guess because so much content pours out Asia—especially when India is included.

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You surely like to spoonfeed. Oops! Sorry.
1st adult then taboo then categorizing a specific country. hmm
For India = Try few Pakistan shows they have their fair share of such relationships and korean cinema, especially adult(not-porn)is full of such content(check Mydramalist or any other asian media database)

As for Teacher-Student - most of it comes from manga(especially shoujo that aims at teenage girls)

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@catocat—I understand that it can tricky to discern sarcasm or intended tone online. For example, I remember when other Beanies dog-piled on you for a comment about dramas being created for homosexuals and housewives. I understood you were critiquing the entertainment business and not stating a homophobic POV.

So, to be clear, I wasn't NOT being sarcastic with my "oops." The shorthand wasn't meant to be snarky. I meant: "Ah, I'm sorry about that."

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Thank you for clarifying 🙂

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Extraordinary You: Kyung made teeny, tiny improvements this week, but I still have to physically restrain myself from yelling YOU CAN BE BETTER THAN THIS at my screen every time I watch. I thoroughly appreciated his vocalisation of the fact that, when you think about it, he's got no one else but Danoh. It doesn't excuse his behaviour, but it reminds us that he's not just your regular second lead jerkface. He's struggling, and he doesn't know what to do, and in some ways, I can kind of understand. I'm also really looking forward Dohwa and Juda finally talking about Juda being self-aware. That conversation needs to happen asap!

I love everyone's sageuk costume. Lee Jaewook looks SO handsome in his robes. More, please.

When The Camellia Blooms: Can we just keep Pilgu safe and out of harm's way forever? He is so precious and deserves only good things. I hate that Jongryeol talked to him about moving in with him behind Dongbaek's back. I mean, come on, dude. Just stop.

The Tale of Nokdu: THEY!!! FINALLY!!! KISSED!!! (screams) I love these two together and I just want to make bad Yulmoo go away so they can live happily :( I'm one episode behind, so I haven't watched beyond that wonderful scene in the rain, I can say that I truly love this drama and Jang Dongyoon so much.

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ON HOLD:
Pegasus Market, Miss Lee, The Lies Within

WANT TO WATCH:
Search Query: WWW, The Untamed

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I'm on my 3rd watch of Untamed, now that it's on Netflix. Xiao Zhan just won Best Actor for his role and it's well deserved.

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@linda-palapala—During your re-watches of Untamed, do you watch everything or are you skipping to your favorite bits?

Back in '87 (or the "olden days" as my teen calls it), I fell in love Wings of Desireand saw it frequently at the theater. I said to a classmate, "I haven't seen any movies this week." He corrected, "You mean you haven't seen that movie this week!"

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At first I only re-watched my favorite scenes, but once it came on Netflix I'm watching every second. Weirdly, every time I watch it I see something I'd missed before. But that's a good thing.
So, Netflix: every second. (I'm up to ep 25). Viki: favorite scenes.
And I watch the video of Gu Cheng every day. I love that song (the Lonely City arc).

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@tsutsuloo You mean you haven't seen that movie this week!" Hmm, we must be a lot alike!.

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I went to see Wings of Desire 3 times in one week, each time taking a different friend. Still one of my favorite films.

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Yes, the saguk part is rather pretty. And not only Lee Jae Wook 🙂

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To quote you: "I love everyone's sageuk costume. Lee Jaewook looks SO handsome in his robes. More, please."
THAT EXACTLY ARE MY THOUGHTS. Nothing else to say.
I would totally watch a sageuk with the three leads.... well, I would even watch the live version of the fictional TRUMPET CREEK (FLOWER) manga.

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And I loved the way she kissed him back! One of the best kiss scenes I've seen in a kdrama. The BTS video is really cute too.

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FLOWER CREW: It was a struggle to get through. The only person I cared about was the King and if anything bad had befallen him, I would never have been able to forgive the show. Despite all the failings, there was one saving grace in the script in that the writer did not go the typical route and make the other ML the bad guy at the last moment just to justify the FL choosing the ML. The King remained righteous as he had always been and despite being rejected by Gae Ttong, did not turn to the dark side. That and Seo Ji Hoon was the only shining light in this drama.

EXTRAORDINARY YOU – Finally started this and to episode 10. The concept is really fresh but the show is a bit draggy at times. I do like Baek Yung a lot but I don’t know if it’s because of the actor.

LEVERAGE – Still the best thing for me out of the current crop. The superior acting really elevates the quality of the production. The scenes are so tightly executed with such detailed performances from the ensemble cast, it’s hard to find any fault. I also appreciated last week’s Park Jae Jyung and Choi Moon Sik references.

Tale of Nokdu – Not feeling the tragicness. Not feeling the romance. Not feeling the palace politics. Not giving up on this yet because the leads are fun to watch.

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I really enjoyed Flower Crew and thought Kim Min Jae was wonderful as the male lead.

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I wished I could have enjoyed Flower Crew more. I too thought Kim Min Jae was wonderful as the lead. I've always thought he stood out in all the dramas he was in. Personally though, Seo Ji Hoon really tugged at my heart with those sad eyes and made me wade all the way through to the end just to make sure he was alright. 🤣

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He was very compelling as the king. Maybe he’ll get a lead role next time.

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I'm with you - I was only watching for the King (well, the actor anyway) and when I realized he wasn't even one of the 4 main leads I stopped watching. So disappointed in everyone else's acting. I wondered how it ended and if the King remained a good guy so I'm glad you mentioned that. My heart goes out to the King and I'm looking forward to Seo Ji hoon's next drama where hopefully he'll be the real lead. (And I thought he was the only one who could actually emote in Flower).

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The last episode aired (at least on Viki) on Nov 7. I'm not sure about other sites.

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After I wrote that I went back and saw that somehow I missed the last episode so I just went back and finished it.
Sweet, it was very sweet in my opinion...

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I still haven't advanced from the ending of the 6th episode of Nokdu. I was following a (Joseon) romcom... and it suddenly changed into a saguk... with a crazy(?) second lead... Hmmm. I still want to come back to the show, only I need to wait till I adjust... and have the right mood.

In the meantime I dived into Camellia and managed to watch up to ep 12. And... oh, Hyangmi... 😢

Extraordinary - funny that currently I'm there mainly for Jooda's awakening... and her relationship with Dohwa...

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I was fully expecting Nokdu to change from romcom to danger. But it still maintains it's good humor, romance (which actually progresses faster than most romcoms).

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Oops, no edit...Nokdu - I love how the writing is good enough and clever enough to successfully do both genres. And at least so far it doesn't drag on and on with one concept. It's my favorite kdrama this year.

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Thanks. It will help me to come back 🙂 (and good to hear that the good writing and the humour are still there).

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Yes, somehow the writers knew when it was getting too angsty, they'd have a humorous scene or two, especially with the little girl. She's been a delight.

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The little girl is the only thing I don’t love about Tale of Nokdu. To me she is just super annoying.

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@vespertyne I find the little girl adorably annoying, or annoyingly adorable.

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"a crazy(?) second lead." He was actually two-faced and putting on an act to hide the fact he's planning a coup and becoming King himself. Which actually in history he's Prince Neungyang (later King Injo) and really does succeed in a coup and takes over. So I'm really wondering what's to become of our two lovebirds, one of them being the present King's son. This had better not turn into a tragedy, though I'm expecting somehow they'll escape and hide somewhere.

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I hope the ending won’t be based on history. I want a happy ending for our lovebirds.

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NOKDU- im stuck at ep 8, i had to half force myself to watch ep 7+8. I still don't feel like watching this weeks episode (9+10). Like you, i think i need time to adjust. And i just started Extraordinary, so kinda drowning in that.
CAMELLIA- oh my god, i cried watching this weeks episode, the scenes where they show how determined Hyangmi to change and embrace a better life... but she didn't get the chance. it was so sad...

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Mary, the office and IT work (and questions!!) was my favourite part as well...

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*When the Camellia Blooms:* The last week episodes seemed slightly dull without Hyang-mi and also the weird trajectory of some of the characters, but we got just a little more scenes of Hyang-mi and my heart just broke for her. Yayyy Pil-gu for being honest with his father and accepting Yong-shik! Impressed with Dong-baek's presence of mind in the mall. Next weekend's episodes are going to be so fun with everyone stepping up! Looking forward!

*Arang and the Magistrate:* I am just in love with Lee Joon-gi! Swooony! All of his dramas are on my list! I was just a little disappointed with the ending, but glad it had a happy ending! Also Hwang Bo-ra is as much a chemistry queen as Shin Mi-na I think! The drama had the best ensemble cast! When I binge watch a show I read the recaps for about 3-4 episodes when I start watching but then get carried away with the show so just stop reading them. But this one time I religiously read the recaps after each episode, and just like many have said the recaps were even better the show! Guess its because of the nature of the show which was full of mystery, so there was a lot of guessing and theorizing. You all are awesome Dramabeans team!

Gonna start Chief Kim next!

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Chief Kim is a fun watch. Enjoy!

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Chief Kim is one of my all time faves, a true gem. I hope you enjoy it!

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Yesss go Chief Kim!

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I've only seen Lee Joon Gi in Lawless Attorney and Arang and the Magistrate. That man is a chemistry machine. I don't know if I can handle all the angst in Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo so I'm setting that aside for when I'm ready.

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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo was good even with all the angst... I wish they made a second season though....(pleasepleaseplease!)
He was awesome on an early drama..... Time between dog and wolf ... if you like NIS /spies stories and action. lots of action.

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Thanks for the recommendation! I've added TBDW to my watch list.

If there's a sequel to Moon Lovers, I hope the writer remembers what people loved about the first series.

It's heartbreaking when sequels spoil their opportunities. The Chinese parent story Scarlet Heart had a sequel with some of the same characters, all in a modern setting. Despite having the same screenwriter, many fans at mydramalist are pretty harsh towards the writing. Too much crying and hardship with not enough connection to the previous story.

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You're welcome. Hope you enjoy it. Also, if there's a second season of moon scarlett it would be awesome if it was on the present. Let's see.

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Chief Kim is soooo good.

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Chief Kim was very good.

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Arang and the Magistrate is one of my favorite dramas, and I think Shin Mina + Lee Junki is my favorite Lee Junki pairing. I love the characters they played too. The magistrate character is one of my faves because a lot of sageuks focus on royalty (or hidden royalty) or the poor warrior/vagabond type. This guy has a job and he wasn't a flashy guy. Just a nice, hardworking dude.

Chief Kim is another one of my faves! Just lots of humor and positive vibes. Minimal romance. Heaps of bromance!

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I love Arang and the Magistrate. There is just no other show like it. Although, I did watch much of it on pins and needles. A little too scary for me.

Chief Kim is magnificent. I hope you enjoy it.

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Extraordinary You: Only seen till episode 19-20. So many unanswered questions. Baek Kyung still being a jerk. I love this show but I am confused by everything.

My Country: Seen only till episode 9. Poor Yeon. I cried a few times while watching. But the show continues to be awesome.

Tale of Nokdu: I don't feel much sympathy for the King. Just want a happy ending despite history.

Catch the Ghost: Episode 5 was hard to watch. But the leads are so cute. Yes I do wish Yu Ryung was more careful but I like her. I felt really bad for her for her in the next episode and was disturbed when she got hurt.

Vagabond: It is still ridiculous and yet still almost fun to watch. Caught up with everything even though I started late and that's why I wasn't able to catch up to the other shows

Miss Lee: I understand the characters more after knowing their circumstances and understood why they acted the way they did. It was good to see them work together and see Miss Lee try to take charge. Also only seen till episode 13.

Melting me: Really starting to loose whatever interest I have. Not much of an emotional impact in scenes that are supposed to be emotional cause they don't spend much time on it.

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Decided to start watching the 50+ episodes shows on my list. Was going to watch Six Flying Dragons first but None of the fun shows are that fun now cause it's all so serious. So I decided to start with somthing that I knew would be lighter viewing : 'What happens to my family'. I am on episode 3 and it's fun to watch. I have read it is good.

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It is a great slice of life drama. I enjoyed it a lot.

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Yong Jiu Grocery Store: If you are a fan of Misaeng, Dear My Friends, My Ajusshi or any other slice of life show, you'll love this one even more. There was not a single moment in the 10 episodes where I thought I wish this was different. Nope. Never. It was all done so well. Everything that happened was for a reason and this show mastered show don't tell to the extent that I consider the storytelling better than that of the ones mentioned above. It was wholesome and fulfilling with a lot of thought going into every scene. Easily the best slice of life drama I have seen till date.
Extra Ordinary You: Is it just me or has the show become quite boring? I mean the sageuk reveals are nice but nothing really happens in the current timeline/manhwa. We are approaching the end so I'm hoping for some good conclusion. Also MBC, who writes the biggest twist in the character description? That character description spoiler ruined the show for me but well that was my deliberate choice, didn't know they'd take 12 episodes to reveal that.

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I love Misaeng so I will check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!

About EY, it’s not just you...

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Just stumbled on misaeng's episode 2 yesterday and that made me feel, I need a rewatch. I watched it in my uni days and it has since been my all time favorite but I think I can relate to it even better now. That show will however remain timeless and Jang Geu rae an exact me. Yong jiu grocery store isn't an office drama but it hits on similar subjects. It's written, directed and acted really well. Hope you'll love it too.

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I am a fan of Misaeng, Dear My Friends and I am crazy about My Ajusshi, even until now. So, I will check it out. Thanks for the suggestion!!!

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With that list I'm sure you'll love it. It's a well done show.

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I have actually gone back and watched Early episodes of YONG JIU GROCERY STORE a second time. It is the best T-Drama in a long time. It is not fast paced drama but a wonderful gentle story which has been told brilliantly. It is like watching a great novel unfold on the screen before you.

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Yes it isn't fast paced but unlike slow paced shows, it isn't boring. In fact I'd never realize where 73 minutes would go because the scenes are very engaging. I feel it would be tougher to rewatch it so soon because frankly it isn't an easy watch (few episodes had me crying for long). But the show and it's brilliance is quite fresh in my mind. You described it well, it is like watching a novel come to life.

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And the fact that it is never boring- despite the slow pace- is the reason I described it as being like a great novel. That is true brilliance.

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Based on your and oldlawyer's comments about Grocery Store, I started it and I'm loving it. Thanks for the recommendation!

I' m still loving EY but I'm a lit major and the show is playing so strongly with lit motifs and the writing process that it's just a pleasure to watch and try to figure out for me.

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Yayy so glad you started it. You're in for a heart warming ride. I hope you watch it all because there isn't really a hook factor, the story, the characters and direction is what keeps one attached to it.

Regarding EY, I like the existential questions the characters pose disguised as dialogues. How even we may or may not have a free will regarding how we live our life. I'm still watching it for that but it has deviated from that a little in latest episodes. Since you are a lit major, I hope you are enjoying the fun they are making of the comic within the drama.

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I just saw the “My Ahjussi” part of your comment n dived in! “Running to watch Yong Jiu Grocery Store“

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Yayyy! Hope you enjoy it. Amongst the three shows I mentioned, parts of Yong jiu grocery store are closest to this one.

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Well, now your recommendation is too tempting to not watch: going to watch Yong Jiu Grocery Store! Thanks

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Yay, hope you'd enjoy it. Jbtw the first two episodes are great too but I was completely on board by the third so I hope you give it enough time.

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Tale of Nokdu I really like the love story, I'm not sure about the plot.

Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency It's finaly over. The end was meh...

Catch the Ghost When the girl barely opened her door to the cops, I understood that Petty thief was not only a thief... It's frustrating when you understood the plot before the cops. But I'm happy they will finaly all work together!

Extraordinary You For a youth drama, so many things happened since the start. I like the fact the writer can write what she/he wants, Haru and Danoh will always fall in love with each other.

Secret Boutique No episode 😭 It's not really nice for the team who is working on this drama. They work hard but all the story is cut by breaks.

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life This drama is nice when they show the young couple! All the rest is frustrating.

No Second Chances I don't have an opinion for now. But I'm happy to see Kwak Dong Yeon :)

My Country: The New Age Poor Hwi !

The Lies Within The kidnapper and the killer don't seem to be the same person. The kidnapper is exposing all the murders that have been tried to be hidden in accident.

Tune In For Love I didn't know that Jung Hae In's character had a tragic story :( but their love story was lovely!

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What happened at the end of Flower Crew?

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Nothing interesting? The King is still searching for a wife, the traitor Ko Young Soo is forgiven, Do Joon wants to become an official and marry Kang Ji Hwa who was awful during all the drama... The main couple is happy.

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Reading your description, the show would have been more interesting as a saeguk office drama. Sort of like Rookie Historian.

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Hahahaha - "saeguk office drama" :D

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Thank you for the term, sageuk office drama. Been watching Rookie Historian and I love it, but had trouble verbalizing what made it different from other sageuks. I wish for more sageuk office dramas!

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Rookie Historian is different bcoz it has a strong female character (kinda like Search WWW). Most sageuks have the reverse which is the norm in kdramaland.

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You From the Stars: Rewatch! One thing I wanted to bring up was that I love the messiness of this love story. Although best friends falling in love is ultimately a far more pleasant watching experience, watching an invasive and embarrassing girl and a cold and cruel boy - who can't sit in the same room without arguing - fall in love despite themselves is mesmerising. Everything about this drama still holds up - the delicious angst, the crazy villain, the glorious special effects, and most certainly the comedy. Watching #1 Scene Stealer Bok-ja have a moment with any handsome man who walks into her view still cracks me up.

Yoo-yeol's Music Album: This is actually just the BEST film. A sentimental, sensual rollercoaster of feelings.

When the Camellia Blooms: I'm very behind, because frankly, the elements of the show seem to be getting more and more out-of-tune with each other, but I'm determined to ride this one out now that I've gotten so attached to the characters.

Haru Found by Chance: I love you, Baby, flaws and all~

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Oh, I remember! Key was fantastic in that role!

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VIP and Secret Boutique. Dull. Both may end up in my "Twinkies without a filling" category, along with Misty, Money Flower, and others. What's with the whispery delivery of wicked Chairman Kim in Secret Boutique? It's more comical than sinister. I thought Kim Min-jung in My Fellow Citizens was the oddball speaker of the year but this lady has her beat.

Dropped The Lies Within and Leverage.

Back to dramas that have a real script. I'm on Empire of Gold for the 4th time. Park Kyung-soo, where art thou?

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LOL. Yeah the dramas you listed pretty much all take themselves way too seriously when there isn't much going on. But I still watch them for the actors.

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Currently watching When the Camellia Blooms (so sorry for Hyang-mi dying, Kang Jong-ryeol has the biggest dilemma, and Dong-baek has just gotten new confidence to slap her sister around) & Miss Lee (I like Hyeri when her voice is not so panicky).

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Vagabond for Ki Tae Woong but 1 minute in ep 13 was just....*sigh*. I don't expect his airtime to increase but I'm still holding on. The show is unrealistic and it makes me laugh at the absurd moments 😂.

Anyways...rumor has it one of the main characters will be killed. And rumor has it that it will be KTW, for 'emotional impact' since Dalgun and Haeri are basicly untouchable. Please be just a rumor.

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VIP: I liked the second week better than the first. I'm more interested in the three women than Jang Nara and the husband's story.

When the Camellia Blooms: Hyang Mi vowing to change made me sad. Jessica and her Instagram life also made me sad. I'm not on Instagram, but I know people just like Jessica who only feel pretty or worthwhile based on the response they get on social media.

My Country: The last scene in Episode 11 between Bang Won and his father was so powerful. Plus, BW had a fight with his fan so my life is complete.

Pegasus Market: The Halloween episode was nice. Poor Gab had a lonely life and an affinity for fur-lined jackets from a young age.

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On Pegasus, Episode 7&8 made me care for Gab. I suspect it is due to his fur-lined jacket. 😋

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I can't wait to catch up with the most recent two episodes of Pegasus Market! While I revel in the bonkers sense of humor, I'm equally moved by its warmth. As @oldawyer recently observed, the show has tremendous heart.

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It does!! I am on ep 5... very surprised how nice it is.

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Extraordinary You

SPOILERS DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE LATEST EPISODES

Let me rant. Please.

1. Why are they making Baek Kyung a douchebag-nice guy-evil guy-sad guy making my brains flip and hurt multiple times in each episode? It's like crazy wild the range of Kyungs I see... what is going on? What the heck is the writer doing????

2. Boredddd with the blandness of sweet Haru and Danoh....it became draggy after a while.

3. Loved Past Haru in blue - hey, it rhymes!!!! - loved the tragic tale of doomed love between Past Haru and Past Danoh. Loved Past Baek Kyung's conflict looking down at the girl he's falling for...Kyung is heartbreaking when he's torn, whether in the past or present.

4. Lovedddd badass Juda. Was rooting for her all the way.

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Baek Kyung is Lee Hyuk junior. He is CH aka Comic Hotness. Hahahaha

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Tell me when the Rock becomes the bad guy. Feel it in my bones he's bad

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Yeah seems the majority here is struggling with Baek Kyung. But frankly... I don't ship him with Dan Oh (... yeah well, if she makes him happy that's cool with me though) but I do wish he gets a happy ending. I like him as a character and as a person ok, he's not on Haru's level but frankly given his upbringing you can't blame the guy. If he hadn't been destroyed by his fucked up father, he probably would have been sweeter to Dan Oh and Haru wouldn't have stood a chance. The fact that Dan Oh got self aware is also due to him being a jerk in and out of the stage. I mean he sees Dan Oh is happy and unlike many second lead, he doesn't force his feelings on her. Basically he's trying to make her change her mind... but in a very inappropriate way. Still, it's not sure who Dan Oh has true feelings for. Is she loving Haru as it was intended in the first story ( after all, Haru was also a lead and the book as almost totally destroyed, who's to say that Baek Kyung wasn't the second lead and Haru the first?)... or is it really her true feelings? Because as you know, in a real romance story... the girl always fall for the bad boy.

Well, as for me... Just... I feel like Haru stole Baek Kyung's stage.. Because he didn't let him the time to become a man good enough for Dan Ok. If this was really a romance manhwa... then Baek Kyung would have changed gradually thanks to Dan Oh's love but he couldn't because Haru changed things BEFORE their romance could really get going... So yeah, I can't hate Haru... because I understand him... But I do feel that Baek Kyung is right on that front. His story as stolen.

I wish Dan Oh gets self aware of her second story soon so that we understand what's really going on and what her true feelings are.

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Am surprised DO is not more sympathetic to BK in the shadow, given she knows about BK’s mother’s death. DO is too absorbed in her own life to bother about BK but BK hasn’t had the happy loving family life DO has had.

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It's so weird. She was sitting there bonding with him at his mother's death anniversary and they seemed very at ease together, and I thought she understood him. They were like friends. And then the latest episode Kyung does a bad guy turn again...I'm scratching my head and I get so annoyed. Just erratic and confusing.

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I don't think it's erratic. Baek Kyung loves her and doesn't want to change the Stage but wants the Shadow becomes like the Stage (except for the illness). So everytime she talks about changing her fate or about Haru, he gets angry and actes stupidily. It's kinda the issue, he's persistent and doesn't understand love doesn't work like that.

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A big part of their memories together, it's her to be hurt and humiliated by him. It was a set-up but it doesn't mean she didn't feel it. For her, his set-up is to be forced to be with her for his father business, she thinks he doesn't want to be with her and he never expressed his feelings. Even during the Shadow, he hurts people around him, people she likes like Haru or Saemi. She tries to be friend with him but everytime he reminds her she's just an extra and she can't control her life. She has no reason to be more friendly with him.

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Regarding number 1, it's mind-boggling to me. I can only assume it's because the drama writers wanted to fill the usual kdrama cliches for a villain and a love triangle. For the latter, they realized that if they used the actual Baek Kyung from the webtoon and told his story as is, more viewers will have second lead syndrome and root for him, so they decided to make him a jerk. I still root for Baek Kyung anyway (not necessarily for the romance before others attack me for this) to spite these writers lol.

I honestly wonder how other webtoon fans feel about this. The more the drama goes on and makes changes, the more it becomes a hate-watch for me.

Agree about 2 and 4. A lot of Haru and Danoh's romantic scenes feel like filler. Juda being self-aware is a change that I like, but I miss her romance with Namju from the webtoon and Namju not being a boring Gu Jun Pyo copy.

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I've never liked Haru from the first moment he appeared. I don't understand his purpose in the story thus he felt sinister to me. I don't know why Dan Oh needs him so badly in order to change her story. Why him?

I agree with Baek Kyung when he said he is the one she needs because he is the only one who can truly change her story as her storyline is linked to his. I have a lot of empathy for Baek Kyung because I understand his character. I have none for Haru because his character is an enigma to me. I totally could not comprehend Dan Oh's grief when he disappeared. (But I guess after the Joseon back story, their connection becomes clearer).

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I agree with everything you said especially 2 and 4. I like fluff but at this point, I want less Dan Oh making moony eyes at Haru and more answers. Thank god Juda is here behind a badass and fighting back against her bullies.

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Haven’t watched too much. Got a full time job in addition to my part time. Lots of walking, 5-7 miles a day, lol feet hurt the first week. Got some great shoe inserts (Walk Hero, shameless plug) from Amazon. Worth 5x their weight in gold and the price was right too.

Extraordinary You: Behind. Is Baek Kyung fated to be a jackass in any life time ?

Watched an Indian film, Soni about a female police officer in Delhi. Could have been better. Interesting premise though.

K film Parasite Enjoyed the acting and the first half of the film, second half felt rushed and how do we wrap this up feel to it.

J Film The Inugami Family (1976). Enjoyed it. Post WWII, wealthy industrialist dies. Old boy had three sons by three different ladies, (married none of them). He had also taken in the daughter of his benefactor. His will stipulates she has to marry one of his sons.
All hell breaks loose at this point and the murders commence. A low key detective is hired to help the police solve the murder spree.

Lots of intrigue. Birth secrets, assumed identity, back stabbing, poison, family greed. The same producer did a remake but folks say to go with the original.

My wife has been watching C drama The Legend of Mi Yue. I have caught enough episodes here and there, I’m going to start watching it too. Stars, Sun Li (❤️), Liu Tao

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Sun Li is one of the best! Did you see her in Zhang Yimou's film Shadow? It was released Sept. 2018 but I didn't catch until this spring, at a local film festival. None of the American reviewers made note that she co-stared in a love triangle with her real-life husband, Deng Chao–who played two roles.

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I haven’t seen Shadow yet. I’ll check it out. Sun Li = ❤️

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Walkhero, huh? I need some good walking shoes....

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They are inserts (Arch supports) for your shoes, not shoes. I have been buying NB walking shoes but the Stitching for the toes always busts out, weak thread imho. I’m going to ditch NB and give some Adidas Basketball shoes a try.

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CAMELLIA BLOOMS: KJR asking Pilgu to live with him without consulting with DB kills any redemption for his character. The murder mystery elements are being too forced that it is derailing the main story. I can self edit out most of the mystery "drama" because the market characters real stories are so much better.
PEGASUS MARKET: Last episode showed that there is some real reasons behind some of the craziness.
BEAUTIFUL LOVE, WONDERFUL LIFE: With the fake reshuffling of alliances, this show is going into slow, elongated, filler mode.

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hope everyone's doing well...just watched a bit of Untamed this week (am on ep23), and nothing else...hopefully by next week i would catch up on Vagabond, My Country, Flower Crew and maybe also I wanna hear your Song...i dropped Melting Me Softly...though i keep thinking i may pick up When The Camellia Blooms since it seems to be quite popular, maybe i may just like it in the third try LOL until next time, take care...

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What I Am Watching...Kim Jae Young play a similar cold character in 2 dramas simultaneously - Secret Boutique & Beautiful Love, Wonderful (a sadly underrated show). How does he manage? Good thing Kim Seon Woo and Gu Jun Hwi are so similar - he doesn’t need to get out of character for either drama. On the balance I think I prefer him & his pairing with Seol In Ah in BLWL - think there’s more chemistry there than in SB. Looking forward to the relationship between Jun Hwi & Chung Ah deepening to friendship & beyond. They both complement one another & bring out the best in each other - one of my favourite kdrama pairings.

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I liked Seol Ina a lot in the daily drama Sunny Again Tomorrow. She also had great chemistry with Jin Ju Hyeong as one of the young couple pairings. It was one of the few daily dramas I finished watching due to them. It's one of the reasons I was so eager to see her and Kim Jae Young being paired together in BLWL because I know they would be great together. But alas, I just can't stand the rest of the drama's subplots and characters. Also, the set up took too long and lost me by the fourth week. I wished to go back and watch only their scenes but I just don't have the energy to deal with any negative fallouts from that.

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TALE OF NOKDU: I love this drama. It was a fun saeguk romcom, Now its dragging. I feel like my time is literally being sucked out of me while watching the last few episodes. Pls let's go back to the fun part. The ending of this week episode is what I'm looking forward to.
VIP: its more than adultery. Going to keep tuning in
MY COUNTRY: Hmmmmm, i seriously didn't understand six years later. Like wtf
NO SECOND CHANCE: KWAK DONG YEON. I'm here for you
VAGABOND: 😍😍😍😍🤗🤗🤗🤗😍🤗😍😘😍🤗😍🤗😘😍🤗😘😘😍🤗😇😘
MELTING ME SOFTLY: in as much as o like you, I'm getting tired already.
SKY CASTLE: Im liking this drama but I can already feel the undertones of evil. Should I continue or just give up??

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Nokdu: Wow. I think it's a perfect mix of romance/angst/humor.

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SKYCASTLE: stay until the end, it’s worth it

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You do know that Prince Neungyang was a real historical king (Injo). So he's gonna win at some point. I just hope our couple gets to get out of there safely.

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I don't think so. He won historically but this is a drama. Evil people don't win in dramas.

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Not true...sometimes evil people do win in dramas, esp if they were real historically.

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Ive never seen one before

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Hey Beanies. Mine are
1. VIP
Surprisingly good. Jungsun looks like the most perfect woman in this show, but we have not seen the whole story, and noting how grim her husband looks like (although he also seems like a warmhearted man inside), I am sure that they have not told us everything there is to know about both Jungsun and her husband.
The drama is also good with storytelling and conciseness. In 4 eps, I can understand each ladies' backstory, their struggle and stuff. (..but it doesnt mean it is okay to snatch your colleague's husband!!! She doesnt deserve it.)
I am obviously bracing myself for next week's impact.
The drama also shows us how the world works (how many people focus more on appearances, put stereotypes on people, and treat people differently based on their looks/background), also, how bad publicity doesnt always mean bad result), and many more, including how money and work/family balance is a problem for EVERYBODY.

2. Extraordinary You
Haru is perfection. Too bad he is a manhwa character only.
I also secretly wish that Dohwa is in the same class. Sometimes he looks like left behind because he doesnt belong to the same classroom as the rest of the characters.
Who is that new girl? Is she squid fairy's lover from the past manhwa?
An awaken Juda is the better version of Juda. Just like Dohwa. As about Kyung...I dunno, I still dont like him. Even in shadow, when he knows that his brother is also awake, he still treats him like crap.

3. The Eternal Love
I am catching up. Not as epic as the other dramas in the same genre, but it is interesting and entertaining that I ended up finishing 8 eps (that is 4 hours!) in one sitting. I stopped simply because I still want to live. LOL.

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MELTING ME SOFTLY: last week I couldn't stand more than one episode...

VIP: I like it, its vibe and the way it tries to fool us. It's my first drama with Jang Na-ra; she's great at acting and very pretty.

EXTRA-ORDINARY YOU: it's adorable. I'm interested in all the characters. Awake Ju-da is great!

THE TALE OF NOK-DU: I'm behind because of VIP and real life. I'm sad the dress crossing is over, but I still like it.

WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS: it's a good drama, better than many others, but I feel a little tired and I am not so much interested about Joker's identity.

COMPLETED
THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE: 5/10 to the horror; 7/10 to the family drama. It's too long and some episodes are boring. No tension, no effective music. Only some ghosts here and there.

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@carmen—What are some of the factors that encourage you hate watch as series instead of dropping it?

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Hi @tsutsuloo One of the factor is my stubbornness. About "Melting", the pilot was so bad that it made me curious about how bad the other episodes could be (it's contorted, I know, I can't find other words to explain myself), now I want to finish it because I like writing reviews on a blog and if I can, I prefer to have watched as many episodes as possible, above all if I want to write a bad review, like in this case. About other dramas, like "If I can love you so", I have watched too many episodes and spent too much time on it, so I want to try to finish it. This doesn't mean I don't drop shows, my list is very long.

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@carmen—Would you be willing to share your blog? I love good writing about all forms of art and have a special fondness for critics who can joyfully parse the good and bad without snobbery. Some of my biggest laughs have from Beanie sh*tposts. 😉

Troy Patterson, a contributor to The New Yorker, recently reviewed the Lifetime movie, "The College Admissions Scandal." It's familiar territory for those who followed the scandal in U.S. news. While acknowledging some audiences might find it "overheated," Patterson argues that

the film sheds light and truth on its themes with an authenticity only accessible by excellent trash.

Yes for "excellent trash!" I work for PBS and I can tell you that all my colleagues consume a wide breadth of content—you can only have so much Ken Burns and Masterpiece, you know?

You finished If I Can Love You So too? I confess that show pushed me into the sunk cost fallacy. Okay, I did ff through some of the later shenanigans—that Mi Lan and the brother-in-law were beyond awful—but I desperately wanted the OTP to get their happy ending. I still crack up thinking about their sexy, unorthodox courtship.

Also, I was completely baffled that NONE of the doctors brought up the risk of transplanting an organ from a donor with active cancer. Yeesh.

At least the OTP had their hot potato dinner and happy ending. 😜

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You made me think of this book review. One of my favorites for a bad review. I love that so many in the comments then wanted to read it. I've bought a couple of the authors other titles that got a more positive review but as anything on my tbr or to be watched lists I've yet to get to them

https://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/reviews/what-happens-in-scotland-by-jennifer-mcquiston/

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@bcampbell1662—Thanks for sharing this; such a fun review! I've enjoyed the Smart Podcast Trashy Books too.

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@tsutsuloo sure, but it's in Italian and I fear it's not so good. Here is the link: https://appuntidiunaspettatrice.blogspot.com/

I've never watched that movie, but "excellent trash" surely is an example of bright and brilliant writing.

I haven't finished "If I can love you so" yet :/ It was a good companion when I didn't manage to sleep, but otherwise it's tough to watch.

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I have just started it- and yes because of Jang Na-ra- and it is too soon to tell, although the acting is very good so far.

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Same here. I also try to watch Jang Hyuk's because of that same drama. But after 3 misses, I start selecting Jang Hyuk's dramas, while keep having faith on Jang Nara's dramas (I watched Hello Monster, Go Back Spouses, and One More Happy Ending, and they are all great. Last Empress is the only one I hate though, although many people seem to like it)

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Currently I'm watching Extra-Ordinary You, Tale of Nokdu and Signal.

Extra-Ordinary You is definitely my favorite. I enjoy even the slow parts. That Haru is so cute.

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Vagabond: 6.5 So what was day 13? Calm before the storm? But if the storm is still to come, what on earth was the week before?? Meanwhile, somebody should rewatch and count to see if they have more bullet holes than plot holes.

My Country: 7.0 The build-up that should have been suspenseful was sleep-inducing. And spare me the long-lasting poison routine.

Extraordinary You: 5.4 (days 9-12) Improving slightly over the 4 hours I watched this week, but the premise has gone stale. Terminal illness & rich people guys acting like arrogant jerks are two of my least favorite things and the twists in this show are not nearly enough to make me like them. I suspect that much of the love show gets from Beanies is because of cheekbones in the reverse harem, but MMDV (My Mileage May DOES Vary).

Leverage: 7.6 Still good, but I don't enjoy the Alzheimer's theme.

Running Investigators: 4.3

Pegasus Market: 9.5

Catch the Ghost: 7.9 Much more coherent now that they've dropped most of the humor. Usually I like funny, but not in a serial-killer show.

Tale of Nokdu: 7.8

When the Camellia Blooms: 7.5

Melting Me Softly: 5.5 Sleep 20 years or 200, take as many cold showers as you want, and it will still be the same old chaebols and the same old corruption. I don't think that's *supposed* to be the point. Day 12 (1) the one-time 48-hour antidote is probably the lamest thing in the show so far -- but also one of the most typically kdrama-ish; (2) last couple minutes raised it a point.

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“ count to see if they have more bullet holes than plot holes. “

Wonderful bit of snark!

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Tale of Nokdu: ❤❤ I was happy for the reunion and the forming of a couple of new ships. Fearing the angst to come... 😣
VIP and Catch the Ghost: Can't decide which one to drop. 🤔
When the Camellia Blooms: ❤❤ Still in this for Yong Sik and Pil Gu.
Extraordinary You: ❤❤ Kyung playing smart and asking the right questions. Get us some answers, Kyung!
Secret Boutique: Preempted 😭
Pegasus Market: ❤❤ Kudos to beanies! Suspicion on Seok Goo's mom confirmed. 👏👏👏
My Country (11): ❤❤❤ Now that we've caught up to episode 1 timeline, I am going to spend the rest of the series fearing for Hwi and Sun Ho's life. 😰
Nokdu Flower: ❤❤❤ Caught up to the 18th hr. Bracing myself for the 21st hr.

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I had my suspicions, because there were only scenes of the two of them, and she doesn't look she's aged in 10 years. But I brushed it aside after that scene in episode 2. He was rushing through the door and his mom called him back to bring his lunchbox. I thought, he couldn't have thought of mom when he's rushing through the door. But I was wrong. 😢

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ARSENAL MILITARY ACADEMY has all my heart and attention. 😍😍 C-dramas have really stepped up their game. On episode 27.

MY COUNTRY. Jang Hyuk and Woo Do-hwan own this drama, along with Ahn Nae-sang. The drama assumes audiences are familiar with the story of the foundation of Joseon and offers a new interpretation. I’m not complaining, it’s just that I often need to refresh my mind about the historical events. Episodes 9-10 were good but painful😭

I’ll be catching up on EXTRAORDINARY YOU next week. I think I will enjoy the historical bits if I turn off my brain. It’s pointless to keep looking for logic in this drama, unless it’s that the invisible Writer (Fate) is a villain. 🤯

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Toki, I think it's understandable for them to assume that the local audience would be familiar with this time period.
That's why they are telling it from a different perspective because it has been featured in a dozen sageuks among different generations.
This is the 6th sageuk that is based on this era in the last 5 years.

I do feel your pain though. It can be frustrating.

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@kiara yes, I know local audiences will know the story. I guess I’m saying I wouldn’t recommend the drama to a sageuk novice. I am broadly familiar with the history but even so the time skips feel jarring because important events and character development take place off screen.

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Gotcha!
I glossed through the new episodes but taking my time with the recap to kind of fill in some that gap that we are missing from the time jump.

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Jang Hyuk, especially. Most of his scenes lack action - the acting is all face, voice and body language. Wonderful, subtle, really well done.

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Jang Hyuk is a great actor.

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It’s a great contrast to his OTT character in FATED TO LOVE YOU, and even as Dae-Gil in CHUNO. Restrained Jang Hyuk is even more intense!

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I love his more OTT roles but restrained Jang Hyuk is definitely intense. Shallowly, he’s never looked hotter than here and in Money Flower.

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Okay, tell me what I'm missing about Arsenal, because I think it's one of the worst, cheesiest dramas I've seen. I'm serious...I want to know what you find so great, really...because I really would like to like it and I'm willing to try again.
My Country, I'm only watching for Yang Se Jong - I thought he owned the drama, so I don't get your not mentioning him. Another explanation needed!

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I love Yang Se Jong to bits, but his character in My Country isn't the best. I'll just go rewatch Duel for my full dose of him.

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My Country Ep9 and 10 were intense. I just rewatched parts of it and was impressed by raw emotions coming from Yang Se Jong. A contrast to a more subdued portrayal of his character in Episode 11.

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Maybe it's personal preference? I think Jang Hyuk and Woo Do Hwan are mesmerizing in this. Yang Se Jong is less impressive to me the longer this goes on which might be due to the traumas they've heaped on him.

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Agree about the history and assumptions that the audience knows some of the history. I had to look up who Poeun was because I couldn’t remember.

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Just finished Running Mates: Human Rights I enjoyed the drama for it was but some of the cases ended too neatly for me. The drama was reduced from 16 episodes to 14 and unfortunately it shows the ending was rushed everything was rushed and I wanted to see more interactions between our two main leads but for the most part I enjoyed what I got to see.

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I wanted to see more interactions between our two main leads but for the most part I enjoyed what I got to see.

You nailed it right here—the relationship between the two leads was too dry. They were so interesting together when their brains connected. Not every work drama needs a romance but why not use the chemistry on the screen to build the synergy of their partnership? I loved watching the two leads solve problems together and their brief intimate moments hints at potential for a real friendship, if not something more.

Unfortunately, I lack both the talent and motivation to write the fan fiction to fix this.

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I had it all planned out...which episodes I needed to watch on Saturday, Sunday,.... to keep up. Unfortunately I fell ill this morning, and typing this comment is already a workout on its own, so guess no K-drama for me today :(

Watching Extraordinary You, Rookie Historian Goo Hae-Ryung with a friend, and recently started No Second Chances and Pegasus Market.

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Get well soon!!

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Thank you!

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Oh no! Get plenty of rest and get well soon !

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