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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Vagabond: This is how they utilize a post-army Lee Seung-gi? When the show started, I thought it would be a fun watch, full of action and abs. But the show took itself too seriously and it seemed like it couldn’t let any fun really take root. By the end, I was just watching to say I saw things through to the finale. Having just finished the last episode…I’m more annoyed than anything. The ending felt like such a cheap, emotionally manipulative ploy and I could almost hear the show saying, “Wait until season 2!” I don’t know for sure if the plan is to give Vagabond American-style seasons, but if that’s the case, I won’t be tuning in.

Psychopath Diary: Last week, I was on the fence about Psychopath Diary, but I’m glad I stuck around! Psychopaths and murder aren’t great fodder for comedy, but the show is managing to nail the humor so far (I’m less interested in the murder mystery aspect at the moment generally). My favorite pairing so far? Dong-shik and In-woo. Their dynamic is so odd and so funny. In-woo makes people freeze and cower, and no one can win him over, while Dong-shik is the office sad sack who no one wants to be around. And yet, In-woo can’t get enough of Dong-shik. Everyone in their orbit wants to get close to In-woo, but the one person he wants is too preoccupied to even put on a pretense of being friendly. In-woo’s interest in Dong-shik and their budding “relationship” has so much potential. (And is it me, or does In-woo’s interest read as romantic?)

 

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Tale of Nokdu: I’m no sageuk expert by any means but that’s one of the most unintentionally hilarious revolution/treason arcs I’ve ever seen. The armies are too small, “key” players pop up out of nowhere without context, and the allegedly Big Bad Yul-moo stops his soldiers in the middle of a coup to have a picturesque chat with his one-sided love..? Why? Normally, I’d ask for more screentime so we can absorb the beautiful costumes, epic fights, and desperate last-minute saves (hello, Muweol Corps!). Unfortunately, the palace shenanigans were so painful to watch that I didn’t care about logic anymore. I was just glad that the show returned to its strength in the last 30 minutes. Namely, Nokdu’s and Dong-joo’s found families living together happily in rural chaos. That wedding washed away all my complaints about the finale because GOLDARNIT THEY’RE SO CUTE. Is it too soon to wish for a reunion project for Kim So-hyun and Jang Dong-yoon? Technically, “next year” is just a month away, right?

Law of the Jungle: I swear I’m just watching the 2018 episodes in order, but I somehow ended up watching old and new favorites like Wanna One, Jang Dong-yoon, and Ro-woon’s episodes in a row. And they’re very entertaining episodes, which is another blessing. Isn’t it sad when a celebrity you like turns out to be painfully awkward in variety? (I’m looking at you, marshmallow Kim Kyung-nam.) It’s not that I like them less for it, it just gives me secondhand stress when I realize how much extra effort they exert in their jobs in front of the camera when they’re awkward potatoes in real life.

 

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People With Flaws: I’m not really enjoying the washroom humor and I feel like the writer went a little overboard with all the different misunderstandings between all of the potential couples. However, I like that it’s kind of like a family drama. There’s a large cast and everyone seems to be getting their share of spotlight in the story, which makes the world feel more filled out (even if, of course, everyone is connected to each other in some way). The best part of the show for me so far is Oh Yeon-seo’s family dynamics. They squabble, yes, but you can tell that they’re close and they care about each other in their own way.

Chocolate: The cynic in me wonders if the title came from one of their PPL sponsors, but I like that food symbolizes warmth and connection for the characters. For Yoon Kye-sang, this is important in his relationship with Ha Ji-won, but, maybe even more significantly, it’s also his connection to his mother. There are a lot of familiar tropes: birth secrets, family strife, rich snobbery, childhood first loves, traffic accidents, and lots of tragedy. However, I loved Ha Ji-won and Yoon Kye-sang’s re-meet-cute in the hospital and it was adorable to see Ha wandering around the hospital with the IV bag balanced on her head. I fear the pending doom that episode 2 might bring, but I’m already invested in the OTP so I’ll have to soldier on for now!

 

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Extraordinary You: I was probably living under a rock the past few months, because I managed to start this without knowing the premise of the show. I. LOVE. IT. I started binging it this week (am a little more than half-way through now) and fell in love with its wackiness. The first couple of episodes especially were right up my alley — the characters cringing at the cheesiness of their lines or complaining about how cliché their story is just had me in stitches. It reminded me of Inkheart, one of my favourite books growing up, where characters were ripped out of their books and brought into the real world. It’s so fun to imagine characters living their best lives in the Shadow, outside the story that the audience are privy to (I found the cure to Second-Lead Syndrome, by the way — just imagine that they find love in the Shadow of their own story!). The tonal shift of the second half caught me off guard, but I love the characters so much and am rooting for their happiness!

 
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Hi, Bean friends!

The only current drama I’m watching right now is The Lies Within, for obvious reasons. Lee Min-ki and Lee Yoo-young and the rest of the cast are really carrying this show, although I actually quit enjoyed episodes 6-12. The writing leaves much to be desired, but I REALLY love the character of Jo Tae-shik, and am even more in love with Min-ki’s nuanced portrayal of him. It’s odd—there’s nothing romantic about this drama at all, but Tae-shik makes me swoon. Just seeing him on-screen puts me at ease, and I’ve rewatched some of my favorite scenes these past few weeks when I’m upset to help me calm down. I think he just has a comforting, dependable aura. Is this TMI? This is probably TMI. ANYWAY. This is not a great drama, and I have no expectations going into the finale this weekend, but as long as Tae-shik and Seo-hee are happy in the end, I’m happy.

I’ve been making my way through his entire filmography starting from Taereung National Village since last month. While they’re mostly rewatches, some things I’m seeing for the first time, and watching it chronologically and seeing his development is SO much fun. I rewatched I Really Really Like You (Nam Bong-ki and Yeo Bong-soon! 💖) and Dal-ja’s Spring (SPARE TIRE ❤️), and now I’m finally watching Mixed-Up Investigative Agency for the first time. This show is a delight! Ye Ji-won is simply FANTASTIC in it, and I love the ensemble cast’s rapport. This is definitely Min-ki’s most purposefully unattractive role, and he plays it with gusto. He’s such a goof. I love that he completely lacks vanity as an actor. He went straight from the handsome, charming Kang Tae-bong of Dal-ja’s Spring to this. Also, that HAIR. Those CLOTHES. Oh, honey.

While watching his early filmography is fun, I’m looking forward to digging into his later meatier performances. He was still a baby actor here (albeit a very good one), and I’ll always love watching him turn into the incredibly versatile chameleon he has become (ignore Beauty Inside it doesn’t exist I’ve never heard of that drama before).

And. Uh. Maybe when Lies is over I’ll pick up something that DOESN’T have my favorite actor in it. Any suggestions? What’s good amongst the currently airing crowd, Beanies?

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Never twice!! The actors are relatively young and new

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I do LOVE Park Se-wan, and the show has Ye Ji-won in it, too! I’ll definitely check it out, thanks!

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Just be ready to ff through some set-up at the beginning 😉 But Kwak Dong Yeon is worth it. 🙂

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I don’t fast-forward when I watch dramas, but thanks!

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Well, after more than 10yrs of drama watching (and with my time limited) I'm shamelessly using the speeding button 😆

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There are also seasoned actors... you will definitely recognize them 🙂

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Pegasus Market (Episode 10)
I feel that the show is still squeaky perfect when it comes to the Pegasus Market characters, however, as we approach the end it’s worrying to see that there’s no clear resolution when it comes to the tension between Bok Dong and Young Goo. When they drunk together and agreed on an armistice for Ji Na, I was hoping she would be the bridge that mends their relationship and let them become old-school friends once again. But, she turned out to be a spy that escalated it instead! Seok Goo’s going to be dragged into the fight next week as the market is threatened and it’ll be a nasty mess.

Psychopath Diary (Episode 1-4)
On one hand, I like the twisted message of the drama: on a blank canvas (aided by our dear friend amnesia), our mind is strong enough to even change our own personality and disposition. I don’t even mind the side effect of Dong Sik who thinks he’s a psychopath (this is drama I can accept). On the other hand, In Woo’s sob story of rich family politics isn’t one bit interesting whereas Bo Kyung seems like one of those ditzy female characters who will fail terribly later on. The show also has a lot of arcs thanks to the high number of side characters: this will be bad if the writing doesn’t hold up.

Tale of Nokdu (Episode 26-32)
Once the show started bringing in the usual sageuk tropes (fight for the throne for greedy reasons, birth secrets, killing of characters left and right, hiding information, noble idiocy), I naturally lost interest in the show. It did feel like we were tricked by the initial light and breezy tone of the show with the crossdressing before being thrown into the politics with the burning of the widow village: afterwards, the tone flipped into dark and tragic colours. The ending itself highlighted how fractured the romance and tragedy had become: the need for a happy ending while remaining historically factual.

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Bok dong gave Young gu a chance to come clean and Young gu was Young gu. That was the equivalent of Bok dong growing and giving a olive branch.

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I agree. One of the main themes of PEGASUS story is Bok-dong's re-discovery of his heart.

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You are right about the coming crisis for Seok-goo on PEGASUS MARKET. But I have great hope that he will handle it well- because another theme of this amazing comedy has Seok-goo's discovery- in no small part due to Bok-dong's mentoring, that he was never really just another salaryman, but something much more.

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@selena "I found the cure to Second-Lead Syndrome, by the way — just imagine that they find love in the Shadow of their own story!" - I love that!

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JAPAN

If Talking Paid - 8.5 out of 10 for this week too. 7 straight weeks of 8.5. This week was awesome. Niece-Uncle became heartache buddies.
Wife-Husband came together. Mother vs. Son buildup. Female love interest vs. Mitsuru. Gender stereotypes.
I like how the show put the terms Housewife, Househusband, Kept man, working professional to voluntary unemployment on table.
When you look at how Mitsuru justifies his laid lifestyle - you go against him but then you see how other characters are driving the point how Mitsuru is a MALE and must work - you stand and note points against them too.

Amazing show of the 2019 - fighting with Crazy SNS family vs. Nagi who is on long vacation.

Doki no Sakura - 7.5 out of 10. good 1st initiation episode.

RE - Follower - 23min episodes. another of SNS and tech show of 2019 from Japan. Timepass 7/10. 1 time watch. Nothing new in story and nothing else that might attract you.

Eren the Souhpaw - 6.5/10 got free time and watched 1st episode. for now can't make say much but i felt something was off, Oh yes. IDOLS. Serisouly, It should be in contract of idols - must have acting training or some theatre experience. heavy makeup does nothing for a viewer.

Janus no Kagami - 1st ep watched 6/10 -ve drama. This might interest you a lot @coolgirl I'm gonna drop it because negativity.

Doctor X - Season 6 - Still going strong. I'm not into it.

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I don't think any kdrama is anywhere near the top 5 Japanese shows of 2019 The only Competition is from Taiwan's "The World Between Us" and 1-2 odd Chinese social shows might try to compete - i don't think it in " All is Well" but still add this into competition list.
Kdrama's can jump to competition with - Stranger Season 2 and Baseball.

nonsense diary - 3/10 dropped 1st ep
only flaws -4/10 dropped 1st ep
Chocolate - 6.5/10 a bit slow 1st ep but i'm gonna continue it till ep 4

Wagebond - apt name. is hero getting paid? the only fun was that female mercenary. actor fire your manager and start reading scripts before making any contract.

Bad Guys - better than typical kdramas but overarted. 2 ep. dropped.

White Charistmas - faepainted idols doing noise pollution. overrated. dropped.

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What are the top 5 jdramas of 2019? Plus Taiwan also had the amazing Yong Jiu Grocery store this year. It was a wholesome show with wonderful storytelling.

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I cannot recommend YONG JIU GROCERY STORE any more highly. It is the best T-drama in a long time.

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I second @oldawyer's rec'd for YONG JU GROCERY STORE. But what did you think of the literal fairy tale ending?

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By fairy tale you mean everything coming full circle and everyone being happy? I thought it ended on a "life goes on" note. And that's what most slice of life dramas go for. Looking back at most that I have seen, had the same ending because they are so realistic and painful throughout their run that they probably want the audience to have some hope for life. I thought every character took its time to come full circle but the last episode did however give me significantly less feels than the rest. But how did you find it fairy-tale ish and not real? Is it because everything wrapped up nicely while there was so much going on in the show?

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@wapzy Did you watch the ending? He literally was putting on a fairy tale puppet show for kids and she walks up and says something about being the fairy tale princess who returned. It was literally a fairy tale ending. I wasn't talking about the whole drama itself, just the puppet show at the end.

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@Lindapalapala I can't tag you for some reason. Sorry I thought you were talking about the show. Yeah that was a little out of place reunion scene. But the entire show in itself is quite dear to me.

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Here are some I enjoyed for 2019
Hajimete Koi wo Shita Hi ni Yomu Hanashi
Maison de Police
Nusumareta Kao: Miatari Sosahan
and my favorite so far for 2019
Watashi, Teiji de Kaerimasu

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I checked the synopsis of all of these and I incredibly appreciate how J dramas deal with very different subjects. My only issue is with them looking so dated. I hope they invest on their equipment so that they appeal a larger audience. I just get ticked off by that and I am not sure if this is only the problem with the shows I watch or generally all of them.

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Chinese + movies +Taiwan

December - All -ve shows dropped and fluff put into acceptable category.
Crocodile and Plover Bird - 4/10 usual chinese romane trash but gonna continue b/c December
Some Day or One Day - Taiwan - 6/10
Waiting for you in the future - 4.5/10

Dive - Prince of Tennis - 3/10 - I don't like Prince of Tennis manga but still the way this Chinese show is made infuriates me. These kind of directors should be thrown out of studios.
Dive is usual Chinese youth sports trash.

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Do you have any j-drama recommendations, especially those that are more about daily life in Japan - either the rural or city setting? Perhaps similar to China's Mr Fighting drama or Taiwan's Yong Jiu Grocery Store (which I've been considering watching!!) I quite enjoyed a few eps of Midnight Diner (and am sad that I can't find the subs for some of the middle seasons before Netflix picked it up...)

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it's a silly one, but low key and sweet... Okashi no Ie (that's a capital i) or I Wish (story about kids making a wish for their friend) - both have Odagiri Joe, which is an added plus.
*winks*

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Rewatching The Greatest Love on Netflix, then watch Chocolate first episode (both have Yoon Kye Sang!). I love the cooking scene and the female lead loves for food, even all the classic tropes seem to be here but let's see how many episode I can hanging.
Don't have courage to continue:
-Tale of Nokdu on ep 12, it's fun but not that make me watch more
-Extraordinary You on ep 14, curious about the ending but too lazy to watch
-Leverage on ep 8, really enjoy it, but maybe later
Went to cinema to watch Kim Ji Young 1982 and cried alot bcoz reminds me of my mother *sobs*. Gong Yoo is a hot dady.

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Guys, I'm sooooo enjoying No Second Chances 😀 It is so funny 😁 The bickering old first loves, the romance of the Chairman (with music and Cinderella shoe 😁)... and of course all scenes with Kwak Dong Yeon 😍

The rest...
...I dived into Camellia and finally finished it. I quite liked the first 13 episodes (the marriage proposal!! 😍)... and then... then I think they should have sticked to the 16 episodes. I would gladly skip the reporter and the stepdaughter scenes (and the pre-birth connection!! 🙈). I would also skip Mom's redemption arch. And I would skip some silly subplots with dumb picking up a bike in a deserted shopping mall or with dumb provocation of the Joker. I also think they tried to be a bit too clever with the Joker and overtwisted it. If they really needed to spend some extra time, I would prefer they spent it on the ahjummas and their stories. Well, that said, I think it still was a good drama and I really enjoyed all the actors, seasoned or not... with Kang Haneul and his Yongshik as the highlight.

I also finished reading King's Avatar. I know very little about esports and I even can't play these online games (I'm already scared just from the vibration of the remote control during Mario karts races 😆). And yet this novel completely sucked me in. It's definitely different than the drama (which also only maps like half of the novel), but I think both have the same air of camaraderie and Glory spirit. And they keep the humour 😁 I'm only not happy with the ending of the novel, it felt too sudden and not very logical. So for me it ends with the finals 😊
(PS I started reading prequels and watching anime. 😆)

Looking forward to Chocolate...

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Yay for No Second Chances. My wife started watching this, I saw parts here and there, so I’ve taken it up as well. Oh Ji-ho plays ne'er-do-well characters to a tee. Yeh Ji-won always does well in comedic roles. Kwak Dong-yeon ! 30 minute episodes are easy to watch .

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The Chairman's daughters-in-law are not bad either 😁

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I love the cast, so many familiar faces.

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Exactly! 🙂

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Never Twice/No Second Chances - Loved Kwak Dong Yeon & baby. That baby is super cute though his size varies throughout the drama although he supposedly is a newborn 😄

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I agree with all you wrote about Camellia!

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Thanks for the recommendation for No Second Chances. It sounds like something I'm in the mood for right now and it would be my first weekend family drama.

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I've started watching Never Twice too and the best part is my dad sat in to watch with me and now he's hooked!! He keeps asking how many episodes it is and I hesitate to tell him it's 50 x 1h eps (it IS a family drama after all) which means 100 x 30min eps which we've been watching..... LOL

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Nice that you can share a drama with your Dad!
(Some sources say it's only 30eps 😆 We will see... so far I'm definitely staying. 🙂)

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Tale of Nokdu The couple was great and it's all I will remember.

Catch the Ghost We had to wait for a long time that JS becomes the real cop he can be.

Secret Boutique It looked the writer gave up the story... I can't be angry against her/him seen as SBS handled this drama...

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life After the Secret Boutique debacle, I'm expecting more for Kim Jae Young.

No Second Chances They're all pretty crazy in this drama...

Chocolate I want to try it.

The Lies Within They're kinda slow to understand things...

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The Lies Within: They have not watched so many dramas as we have. That's why they seem slow to understand things...

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I don't know but I'm not a genius and I understand pretty fast the murderer and the kidnapper had a different goal. But yeah... maybe I read to many Agatha Christie's books :p

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I'm only on episode 8 of it, but I disagree a bit. I think the pace feels realistic to what would have happened in real life. The viewers are seeing a bit more info than the police, especially to what goes on with other characters. The police don't feel unrealistically smart and psychic and at the same time they are not stupid. I think the show achieved a nice middle ground with the police.

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But they understood the kidnapper is releasing her husband body's part in very precise places and what is the message. But they're still searching one person (they did understand now...)

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With you on "expecting more for Kim Jae Young".
Just seen rushes of secret boutique but actually enjoying the melo beautiful love. I just wish the cheong couple would get more air time. Tired of the vamp MiL!

Never twice: fun in parts. Some of the craziness doesnt work for me.

Chocolate: i hope it is tasty. The main lead is arresting and I just the drama lives up to what it promises: comfort, engagement and love.

Catch the ghost: reached the part where she gets injured but now will wait for the series to end.

Flaws: loo business is too embarrassing and i feel bad for the fellow. Like someone said: i love the dynamics between the 3 bros and the girl. I hope it moves away from toilet humour as it is an easy watch.

EY: i didnt want it to end and I dont know what do I want for Eun-dan-o, so the stage is not lit for episode 15 for me.

Craving some nice happy stuff. Recommendations plz.

On the taiwanese front:
Looking forward to Jasper Lui next week.

Do suggest nice stuff to see: japanese, taiwanese and kdrama only. C-stuff works only once in a blue moon wonders!

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What happened with Secret Boutique? Does it have a bad ending?

I am loving Wonderful Life Beautiful Love, which I started watching just for Kim Jae Young. I love his character, and I love him with Seol In-ah, who I have not seen previously I also now like the older sister, and I love Yoon Park and his character. I hated Jo Woo-ri’s character in MIDIGB, and I hate her character here. She’ll probably end up with the rich guy, which pisses me off, as I don’t think cheaters should win.

Anyway, I wish there was a recap or place to chat about WLBL. It’s my first “Weekend Drama,” and I’ve been surprised by how much I am enjoying it, mostly thanks to the two MLs and In-ah, whose character is adorable.

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It's more like a safe and neutral ending... It's not bad but rushed.

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That’s too bad. If I watch it for the hotness of KJY, I want him to have a good ending!

I’m kind of dreading the makjang moments to come in WLBL, but so far I’ve really liked the slow development of the relationship between Cheong-ah and Joon-hwi. I love the way the writer wove Na Tae-joo’s poem “Wildflower” into the dialogue, over multiple episodes. That is exactly the type of organic literary allusion I love in Kdramas (as opposed to the “Look! See how “deep” we are!!?” pretentiousness that the ones in Encounter displayed).

The parents drive me nuts, I have no interest in the high school age youngest sister and brother, and I just wish Jin-woo’s mother/chairwoman would STFU. But I like the two relationships. I didn’t think I’d ever like Seol-ah, but once she realized what a shallow person she was, and left with no money, I started liking her. But I’m NEVER going to like Hae-tang. A high school mean girl/bully, and a liar and adulteress as an adult? Nope, no redemption from me. But she will surely end up with the rich guy, and have the life Seol-ah wanted. Ugh.

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It's typical of week-end drama! You like one couple and they're so cute that you're ready to bear all the rest just for them :p

Honestly, I don't have so angry feelings about Hae-Tang. What she did as a teenager was really bad. But for the affair? I don't like how they make Sul Ah becoming so nice. She was awful at the beginning, the things she told to her sister were so painful to hear, she ignored her family during many years just for money. I wasn't sad for her and her husband's affair. She never loved him. Hae Tang shouldn't have done what she did, but she loves Jin Woo sincerely and I don't think it's for his money.

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Re Hae-tang, I agree that she is obsessed with Jin-woo, not his money. But I have a thing about cheaters. And especially women, who betray other women, over a man. Plus, she was lied - actually committed the crime of perjury - to frame an innocent boy, and knowingly send him to prison. And she helped the horrible chairwoman kick Seol-ah away from Jin-woo’s bedside when she didn’t want to go, and treated her like crap. She is still an awful mean girl. I’ll never like her. So I don’t want her to have anything but a miserable life!

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I'm more angry against the actual cheater and in this case it's the husband. He's the one who broke his promise.
Yeah, she was not very nice with Seol-Ah but again Seol-Ah was not a good wife neither... She wanted a child just to be sure not to be kicked from the family... so romantic...

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I hear you, but I just think women have to look out for one another. No married men is one of my bright lines that I’ve never crossed, although I’ve certainly been occasionally tempted. But in the case of Jin-woo, he married Soel-ah knowing EXACTLY what he was committing to. He knew she wanted to marry a rich man, and that she did not love him. He accepted her on those terms, and she was a dutiful, faithful wife to him, and never lied about how she felt. Her words and actions after he was in the accident strongly suggested that she had grown to love him, and had the affair not been thrown in her face, and the chairwoman forcing the divorce with threats of going after her family, I think it’s probable that Jin-woo would have woken up to hear those 3 words he so longed to hear.

I’m watching another drama, VIP, where I am more angry with the b#*ch who broke up a marriage than I am with the husband. The last episode has a flashback to when she met him, and later sees him in the grocery store -where she is a server - with his wife. Her co-worker talks about how they are the store’s golden couple, and that the wife is rich, but also very nice. The co- worker says she wants to have the wife’s life when she is reborn, while the future home wrecker looks at the two in envy. And then she sets out to get him, knowing she is going after a married man, whose wife is her supervisor.

The only reason I’m not as mad at the husband is that it’s being suggested that the wife did something that jeopardized Thor marriage. Not sure what. An affair, possibly. He also feels socially inferior to his wife, as she comes from a wealthy family and he doesn’t.

Whatever, I don’t think their marriage is fixable at this point, but I don’t think the home wrecker should get him. And who would want to marry someone who cheated on their prior spouse, anyway? Not me!

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Extraordinary You: yaaaaasssss a happy ending danoh haru deserves. eventho i keep sobbing in the last 2 episodes (especially when danoh graduates alone and left everything in haru's desk) im so so so happy with the ending

Tale of Nokdu: finally a drama with a clear resolution between all of the characters. i dont care about the political plot anymore. im so glad nokdu and dongju get married and life happily (and quietly) in the island with nokdu's mom

The Lies Within: i love how the detectives are not dumb. im actually enjoying this drama a lot

Leverage: its cliche but i love love the squad so

Catch the Ghost: Go Jiseok is soooo uwu :((((( im so glad he know about Ryung's secret now. kinda tired about mari's bullshit

Psychopath Diary: dont watch eps 1 but accidentally watch eps 2. im gonna start watching after Dongshik realize that he aint a psychopath.

Love With Flaws: idk... i hate the misunderstanding between the characters. maybe gonna watch it the next 2 eps to decide to keep going or nah

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Finally watched the finale of When Camellia Blooms. It was such a good drama, with a satisfying closure for every character. Totally gonna get the bulk of my beans for this year beanies count.

Catch The Ghost - I want to say I watch this for the whole storyline but in reality I just want to watch Kim Seon Ho and his dimples. The romance storyline was a bit meh..hot Junior Officer with broad shoulder and tall figure is so nice and good hearted I want to root for him even though the end pairing is pretty clear.

Nagi no Oitoma - what a good show! I literally binge watched this and I was reminded once again on how good Japanese drama are. I used to watch more Japanese dramas than Korean before. Solid casting, solid storyline. It’s a proof that you don’t need large cast and lots of episodes/filler to have a good story. Now I’m searching for my next Japanese dramas to watch. Gonna get back to my root! 😋

Chocolate - this is gonna be a tear fest I can feel it already. I’m sticking around for now.

Trying to continue watching all the dramas that I left midway through..waiting to see which one will stuck with me to complete watching. Sky Castle..Fiery Priest..Arthdals..

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I still have to come back to Nagi... and Fiery Priest... and many others. Time... is my enemy 😭

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Exactly..😭😭 if only we had the time to watch all the dramas that we want 🤧🤧

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Catch The Ghost: I'm liking Woo Hyuk too! Yes, his height & broad shoulder, his smile too! I agree with you on the romance storyline...
I like Kim Seon Ho best with Go Won Hee (in Strongest Deliveryman).

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@BedeliaJane yes! That’s when I first discovered Kim Seon Ho too. I hope he picks better project next time..I still haven’t continue watching Waikiki 2 and also that Prince something drama with DO. He was in both dramas and was the main reason I tuned in in the first place but unfortunately I zoned out midway..😅

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Sigh. Same for me. I skipped Waikiki 2 after the first episode and in 100 Days Prince, I could not believe DO managed to upstage him. I've also dropped Catch The Ghost after the first episode. The only drama I've really managed to enjoy him 100% was in You Drive Me Crazy, which only has 2 or 4 episodes. I keep waiting for him to find the right drama.

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I watched that too 😍 He’s so cute with Lee Yo Young. The reason I managed to finish it all was because of the short duration though. 🤣

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I highly recommend If Talking Paid/Ore no Hanashi na Nagai. Slice of life Japanese drama currently airing.

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Thank you for the suggestion 🙏. I’m gonna check it out 👌🏼

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Like you I got back to Jdramas this year and really good ones were aired like Dakara Watashi wa Oshimashita, A House On The Slope, Soushite Ikeru (And, Live), Your Turn, and If Talking Paid (currently airing).

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A recent Japanese drama that I feel is an undiscovered gem is Quartet from 2017. Please check it out!

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Already watched it. I love it :D

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Watched Quartet previously, an amazing gem! 💕 that’s when I first discovered Takahashi Issei. I really want to watch all his works but he’s recently so active and has so many works that I’m unable to catch up. He’s a really talented actor.

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Since you're in search of new doramas, consider the 10-episode restaurant-themed dorama Grand Maison Tokyo. One of my favorite types of stories—a scrappy band of talented chefs getting the band back together for a new restaurant. It's a delightful mix of work-family growth, cooking science, intrigue, FOOD, and a soupçon of romance. Most of the leads are attractive, mature actors, in their late 40s-early 50s. Airs on Sundays. 5 subbed episodes already in the can. Looks like it takes about five days for subs to publish.

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Thanks for the recommendation! I did a quick google search and the main actor is Takuya Kimura, which is enough reason to tune in 😄

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Yay! I'm loving it. I binged the first five episodes over the three days. Each chef has a gift without being do-it-alone geeeeenius. Their excellence comes from the group synergy—and that feels very Japanese.

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A friend introduced Unnatural/Unnatsuraru to me and I LOVED IT! The characters are such a motley/bonded bunch and they run around solving unsolved deaths with such intelligence/creativity, you should definitely check it out!

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Ooh, I'm adding this to my watch list. You had me a "motley/bonded bunch".

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I'm watching twitter and instagram for Shin Sung Rok updates. Hopefully he'll have a new drama soon. Dramaland feels incomplete without a SSR drama to look forward to. #dramaqueen

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Take care of your health.

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Tale of Nokdu: Super Cute ending. I'm glad I watched it for the beautiful chemistry between the leads.

VIP: This seems like there is going to be some kind of misunderstanding happening. I don't think he is cheating with Yoo Ri, I think she is the VP's secret daughter or something. I also don't think he is cheating with Mi Na. I believe him when he says it is some random woman. Juicy.

Chief of Staff: The twists and turns are still great. I love the show so much.

Secret Boutique: That was the most pat ending ever. I am actually disappointed.

People With Flaws: I tried, but I didn't make it half way through the first episode. I didn't laugh once. Also Ahn Jae Hyeon does nothing for me, so is not particularly believable as some beautiful man who gets all the ladies.

Chocolate: We will see, but I have yet to finish or like a Ha Ji Won drama. So I'm hoping it is good.

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Chief of Staff is the one I can’t wait to see what happens next. Love the cast. Lots of intrigue, double crossing, dog eat dog. Good stuff

No love triangles, barely a hint of romance , although there might be a spark between Hye-Won & Do-Kyung .

In the what if dept:
I wonder if she would make the first move, as Do-Kyung strikes me as inexperienced. That pairing could spice the show up if done correctly. I’ll settle for puppy love K drama version though.

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Hye Won and Do Kyung are very cute, but like you I'm glad it is low key.

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I am watching Psycopath diary and just like Stroopwafel noticed, our real serial killer seems to be totally in loooove with our idiotic, oblivious main lead. It's hillarious....

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And I forgot to mention a really sweet series that has just finished -only 5 episodes- FAILing in Love. A heart warming drama about friendship/ love with lots of humor. I highly recommend it!

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it is such an awesome addition, that interest In-woo shows really is a nice twist,

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I was looking forward to People with Flaws, but the poop humor is terrible. Funny only if you’re a third-grader. It’s a shame, because I like everything else about the drama.

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So happy I watched Vagabond as a comedy so I don't have to rage about the ending.

Tale of Nokdu was a sageuk light. Jang Dong Yoon never disappoints.

I'll spend the next week recovering from the ending of My Country. Please remind me of this if I forget and venture toward another sageuk. Of course if the sageuk includes Jang Hyuk, Woo Do Hwan and Yang Se Jong, I won't be able to stop myself.

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Chief of Staff ✅
No Second Chances ❤️
Watched first episode of Pegasus Market

Chief of Staff is good. Shin Min-a , love her wardrobe, can I say she looks smoking hot ? lee Elijah, yay ! Kim Kap Soo and Jung Woong-in as the evil doers ⭐️, really good casting .

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The Lies Within: Ready for the finale! Kim Seo-hui can make a great detective. The investigators are smart but the culprits are always one step ahead. I don't think Sang-hun is going to make it out of this alive. Amazed at how terrible the villains are.

Chief Kim: Also got the finale episodes left. I just love the concept of this show, something really different. It's written really well. It seems it's quite underrated. Also I've developed a huge crush on Jun-ho. It's so fun to watch him eat.

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Have you seen Junho in Just Between Lovers? That's where my crush was solidified.

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Not yet! Its on my list!

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Just Between Lovers - one of the best dramas ever.

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Chief Kim is super funny (and yes, different). The best couple here is Junho and Namgoong Min... chaperoned by Kim Won Hae 😁

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I believe Junho and Namgoong Min were nominated for a Best Couple acting award too.

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Tale of Nokdu: I didn't really buy that Yul Moo would let ND live and DJ go to him, but the finale had its cute moments.

Chocolate: It's nice seeing HJW and YKS. There were some things about the first episode I liked and some things that made me groan, but I'm in for now. I like this character for HJW.

My Country: The ending was pretty much what I expected.

Pegasus Market: Episode 11 - The fate of Pegasus Market is in Seok Goo's hands.

VIP: I caught up on several episodes, and while I find the three coworkers somewhat interesting, the leads story line is slow and Lee Sang-yoon only has one expression.

Love is Beautiful, Life is Wonderful: I had barely been watching since I hated almost everyone, but I quite enjoyed last week’s episodes. The second time jump moved things along.

No Second Chances: Typical weekend drama, but I'm liking a lot of the characters.

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Leverage : a very good show. Glad that i started watching it. It is so addicting. I love Lee tae joon and the way he plans out everything and glad the all of them somehow saves the day with Plan B at the end. I am on about to watch ep 7 right now and i am biting my nails , because the ending of ep 6 was like such a shocker.

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The Leverage squad is fantastic! I like Eui Sung! He's so adorable. His bickering with Na Byeol, and especially with Roy are sometimes so funny! And he's so loyal to Lee Tae Joon.

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Yes. Fantastic squad and team work. Each one excels in the work they get assigned. I also love Eui sang. I could watch him and Na byeol bicker all day. Jealous Eui sang is on another level though.
I also love Soo kyung. I think this is my first time i have seen Jeon Hye Bin playing such a sassy character. Her expressions are hilarious. I have watched her in other dramas and she always played that shy ,weak girl who is very quiet and reserved. I am pleasantly surprised to see her in a lively character.
Roy is so manly and i just swoon whenever his scenes comes up. I also laughed so hard when his tone changes when talking to his pet Elliot. Haha

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Leverage is my fav out of the current crop and I am really enjoying it. Everyone is just so good and suit their characters so well! There is not a single weak link. This is also the first time I really like Jeon Hye Bin in any character.

I've never seen the original Leverage and I rarely watch heist capers but I totally enjoy all the heists they are pulling here, and the fact that not everything goes smoothly according to plan. Lee Dong Gun looks so dashing here and is back in fine form. I'd hate for this to end because I could watch these bunch forever.

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VIP: I didn't expect that ending! (I wasn't even sure about the affair). Now I want to know what happened that led to this.
Mi-na has all my simpaties, but I hope she isn't really betraying her collagues.
Jung-sun's reaction to the situation is very realistic.

CHOCOLATE: lots of tempting food. I hope there won't be a feud between the cousins or an unoriginal triangle.

THE SECRET LIFE OF MY SECRETARY: I had put this on hold months ago, but I'd like to finish it and The wind blows within the end of the year.
The drama seems a low-budget one, but it's nice.
Is Kim Young-kwang always so cute, or is it just his character?

THE TALE OF NOK-DU: I'm watching this very slowly from when it became more sageuk and less rom-com.

MOVIE
ROMAN HOLIDAYS: yes, I had never watched it, and I confess I did to see the similarities between it and the pilot of Encounter. It was fun to spot them, they're really a lot!

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I like Kim Young Kwang alot in Man Living in My House, much more than I did here. I find him more charming there, whereas here he is more cutesy.

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What I'm looking forward most when I see "Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching" post is the screengrab. It's like a quiz for me! Love it when I can recognize where the pic is from. But I've no idea for this one. I can only tell it's from SBS, haha. Help? Anyone?

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Maybe VIP? In upper left hand corner of the screen shot.

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Lol, stupid me 🤣
Yeah I failed to notice the left-hand corner!
Thanks @Kurama @KeikoAnn

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@bedeliajane - wording blended in with the background. I had to look twice. Your question made me curious, so now I may to add VIP to my list of dramas to watch. 🤣

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PEGASUS MARKET: (Ep 10) Still a great joyride, but with two episodes to go there is a chance the writers may drop a dramatic bomb on us as the market President completes his transformation from revengeful corporate pawn to community business man (market closes by corporate; labor and health violations; arson; hostile takeover; accounting scandal, etc.) which breaks up the team.

BEAUTIFUL LOVE, WONDERFUL LIFE: Now that the elongated coma arc is completed, now we are in the multi-layered jealousy phase.

SCOUTING REPORT (Drama Special): An average but nice typical story that gets wrapped up neatly like a practical Christmas present.

CHOCOLATE: The show burned through the entire trope playbook (birth secret, first love, family strife, lost dreams, rich snobbery, family accidental deaths, succession sabotage, saving the heroine in medical emergency, and the power of food for healing) in the first episode. It foretells a bittersweet drama.

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After watching Pegasus Episode 11, my prediction means I need to buy a lottery ticket.

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I have yet to watch the final episode of My Country. Still gathering the courage.
Leverage - another of those dramas where you root for the Con guys. Wishing more screen time for Kim Kwon.
VIP - too much play up on the non-existent adultery. I’m not a fan of the stoic acting of both leads.
Catch the Ghost - shelved. Will get back to it when less interesting shows come up.
Never Twice - interesting first episode. The Inn vs the hotel would should be a rich source of very good drama arcs but so far, the characters are not that loveable.

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Currently Airing.
Catch the ghost: I think I was unhealthily obsessed with this week's episodes. I rewatched it quite a few times and couldn't help but cry every single time, yet so worth it to get to the sweet, cute and funny parts. Episode 11: I cried for mostly Yoo Ryung this episode and then felt extremely happy for her and for both her and Ji Seok. This was satisfying and heartbreaking at the same time. I have had quite a few favorite kdrama couples, but I have never squealed happily at them getting together as I did for JS and YR. Episode: 12: This made me cry even more in the first half. This time it was JS I cried for and then happy for him. Thank God YR found a way to catch the remaining grasshopper. I loved seeing them working together to catch the guy. I loved the confession scenes, definitely my most favorite in a Kdrama. And this is going to be unpopular but YR and JS take the top spot in my most favorite Female and Male characters respectively. And also the top spot as my most favorite couple. Now I am just worried that things are going to be even more heartbreaking for the leads and is going to make me cry even more. Show just keeps pulling twist after twist. It keeps us guessing who the subway ghost is. This drama also has my most favorite kdrama ost. I have only ever liked one or two from any drama, I liked every single song for this even as I definitely prefer the more upbeat ones. Every single one perfectly fits the leads. I have watched the behind the scenes too and they are fun to watch even as I don't understand a thing l, heh.

2. My Country: While I expected either or both Sun Ho or Hwi to die I was surprised by how to came to happen. Definitely hate Bang Won now. I couldn't help but flinch and look away as both of them were killed. It was shocking and heartbreaking. At least there was they were happy for a little time and Hwi finally got to see Sun Ho smile.

3. Tale of Nokdu: I was satisfied with the ending as both Nokdu and Dong Joo ended up with their happily ever after.

4. Extraordinary You: How it ended up from the top spot to the 4th. But nevertheless I liked the ending though I wished to know what happened with Do Hwa and Joo Da.

5. Psychopath Diary: Watched only one episode from this week. I actually kinda like it as it's quite hilarious. Even though I don't like dark humor that much.

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I actually couldn't watch Pegasus market at all these past two weeks and haven't proceeded past episode 6 (I know, I know I should have). I couldn't even watch people with flaws and Chocolate. I also expected to start two dramas this week. But couldn't. I didn't even feel like finishing the last episodes of the other dramas cause of Catch the ghost. And I practically had to force myself to finish them. Though I did ended up feeling better thanks to that. Other reason was also cause I feel emotionally overwhelmed with the current favorite shows as there was so much heartbreaking stuff going on in them and also cause I spent a lot of time on DB. I hope the next crop of shows mostly end up being mostly light.

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Still despite everything I finished watching the last two episodes of Introverted Boss which I already took two weeks to do. The Male Lead was my most relatable character in any fiction I ever encountered. (I don't know what that says about me). I also take back what I said about the Female Lead as they ended making her from irritating to kind of likable.

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6: Vagabond: I rushed and fast forwarded through this. Very unsatisfied and disappointed with the ending even though I kind of expected that.

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Yeah, despite the general opinion of Introverted Boss, I enjoyed it a lot. As an introvert in a public service job, some days I'd love to spend hiding in a black hoodie.

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I'm kind of tempted to try Introverted Boss despite the less-than-stellar reviews because I have a feeling I would relate to the ML a lot as well.

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Give Introverted Boss a try if you have time. I really enjoyed it. It was the first time I'd seen the ML in anything and was really impressed by him. Plus, if you are one of those people who likes good kiss scenes, they have a kiss in the shower that really tops the charts. (they're fully dressed so the kiss stands on it's own)

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Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life -- The chemistry between Kim Jae Young & Seol In Ah is so sizzling! I hope they'd be at KBS Drama Awards and got nominated/ win Best Couple or something.

I've just seen the latest episode (raw!). I realize that Baek Rim is so instrumental in Cheong Ah & Joon Hwi's relationship. If he hadn't asked CA to help him with the Mr Lightning job, CA & JH might not have met! BR was also the one who told JH of CA's good qualities (ep 13).

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Seol In Ah also had sizzling chemistry with Jin Ju Hyeong in the daily drama Sunny Again Tomorrow. So I'm not surprised she and Kim Jae Young would be great together here. She seems to have easy chemistry with her male co-stars.

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VIP I think he’s either cheating with Kang Ji Young the other friend or he’s not cheating at all but hiding a prostitution ring. These are my theories. I ready like this show, I love all the plot twists & the overall vibe. My favorite character so far is definitely Lee Hyun Ah

W I started it & I’m half way, I’ve watched 7 episodes. I really like the drama to real life changes, it’s really well filmed. It’s okay it’s not bad but not the best either. I’ll probably stop here since the 2nd half was what most people didn’t like & the preview for ep 8 is looking like a mess.
I’m glad I finally watched it though I felt like missing out; I really feel like it’s better to watch this drama after it’s finished.

Watcher Just started this like it so far

Live I wish I watched this half live (just the last episodes), I’m taking my time with it. I really like it. I’m just kinda sad & melancolic while watching this. I feel that way about this writer’s works: extremely good but kind of hard watch. Each episode stays with me. But really really good.

Finished Life so so so good! I wish I watched this live. I absolutely loved it. I loved how everyone is flawed. My least favorite character was the main lead Ye Jin Woo. Rather than Lee Dong Wook’s acting it’s just the character itself. I don’t know I found him irresponsible, immature & kind of dumb. Always caring like he’s better than the others, almost like he was living in his own fantasy world & not in real life, he’s the only good one there.
I definitely preferred Gu Seung Hyo & Oh Se Hwa even if they have more twisted morals they stick to it.
I found it hard to relate to the doctors & their fight. I just found that almost nothing the president was doing was actually wrong. Like Seon Woo Chang (from the organ transplant center) said at the end nurses & doctors were always screwing each other so why do they expect different from the management.
I don’t know I really really liked this show just as much as stranger. I need more work from this writer.
I really really wished I watched it live to find people to talk to. There’s no right or wrong or good guy or bad guy. It was different from other dramas I’ve watched so far. I don’t know exactly how but it felt different.

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I still have 2 more episodes to watch of Live. I had marathoned a bunch of episodes in a row (soooo good!) and was burnt out from them. Taking it 2 episodes at a time each week would have been a good idea. Taking a break before I dive back.

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I’ve watched almost half. It’s really hard for me not to binge it. I often find myself pausing suddenly, take it all in then go at it again

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Yay for Live ! One of the better K dramas from 2018. Bae Seong-woo 👍

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It definitely made me see him in a new light. I didn’t know he was that good. I hope he gets more ML offers from now on & does more dramas :)

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Yes, LIFE was really good but not Lee Dong Wook for some reason. I really liked the character Gu Seung Hyo and that there was room to be a little gray - not good or bad exactly. If I remember correctly, even with live watching it - there wasn't a huge amount of discussion on this one.

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Yes, one of my favorite drama character so far.
Yes I tried finding comments online & on the fanwall. But there was almost nothing besides some opinions concerning the end & overall show. Such a shame since I feel like it’s a show that provides a lot of elements of discussion & I would have loved to read everyone’s opinions.

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I'm re-watching the much maligned 'I Picked Up A Celebrity On The Street'. The series is very funny and very unpretentious. Much more watchable than Sung Hoons subsequent drama 'Level Up'. Sure, the story kind'a falls apart at the end but who was watching this humorous confection for its plot?

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I'm currently obsessed with the Chinese drama, "Royal Nirvana". It is so beautifully filmed with rich costumes and sets! You can tell the production budgets were high. The story is very well written with the main character trying to outsmart his enemies. Unfortunately, the subs are sometimes weirdly worded so it can be confusing. The acting is stellar; first time I've seen a male lead crying so much that I could feel his pain. It's available on YT.

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Vagabond: 8 Ending was only jarring because it wasn't what we expect of a kdrama. If an American show ended its first season like that we would said they did a good job of wrapping up something and laying the groundwork for next season. And the show had its own internally consistent logic. Bulletproof logic, as a matter of fact :)

Leverage: 7 Jeon Hye-bin: I guess you have to be a really good actress to be such a good bad actress (?) Meanwhile, show is probably as good objectively as ever, but as they approach the big bad I find it less interesting.

Tale of Nokdu: 7

Catch the Ghost: 7.8 All the why-which-lead-did-what in day 11 was boring compared to the cases. Day 12 was better.

My Country: 5 Took me a while to watch the final ep, not because I was saving up a treat or any other good reason. It just got too boring and degenerated into a bean-watch for the year-end polls. You know, so I can vote for SOMETHING ELSE.

Pegasus Market: 9 BTW, I think I've decided the Bbaya chief is my favorite character.

People with Diarrhea Flaws: 4.5 At least it has Kim Seul-gi.

Sigh. Most new shows don't seem very interesting. Last week I was watching 9 (!) shows. Next week it may be only 3 :(

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I burst out laughing while reading your title for Love with Flaws!! I'm with you I like all the pretty men and Kim Seul-gi. Also that Oh Yeon Seo and her BFF relationship reminds me of my friends. FOOD > GUYS. But main Male lead is comple DUD. I have never liked him from his previous works, but I like him less after his very public divorce. he really should have stepped back from this drama when his real life drama was going on.

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Jeon Hye-bin must be having a blast acting in Leverage! She's so good at being a con artist and a bad actress at the same time. It's my favourite character of her so far.

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CHOCOLATE: Not attached to the characters at all. But the last several minutes were done so well. I’m still interested to see what this drama offers in future episodes, but I have to admit my hopes haven’t been met. There looks to be some family drama in the future, and I am already so bored and irritated with what we’ve seen so far. (ep. 1)

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HISTORY3: MAKE OUR DAYS COUNT: Ugh, so cute! This might be the only History series I’d consider rewatching. I know it’s had some missed reviews, but it completely hits the mark for what it is. Plus, the male friendships are amazing (and quite hilarious)! (ep. 13-14)

UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN THE SERIES: The plot is so slow-moving. Give us more scenes of the couples! (ep. 3)

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That's hilarious. I was in absolute shock when the episode started that way! I expected there to be some PG-13 romance scenes, but they just took that and went way, way further than what I was expecting. It was honestly quite jarring.

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I think HIStory3 is the worst one so far. The actors are so bad (and unattractive), the story is non-exists to, and the sex scene was so not sexy (I don’t like either character, and find their relationship ridiculous. Seriously, I hate the high-school-boy obsessed with older man plot. I was never a fan of Justin in QAF, and always wanted to see handsome Gale Harold with s hot guy his own age - but never the unattractive Michael or Justin).

I’m watching a few Thai BL dramas. The plots are bad, but in one of them the two guys are very attractive, and they have pretty good chemistry that makes their bed scenes quite convincing.

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I'm still rewatching Shining Inheritance, but probably won't finish it. I've had trouble before with watching an older show on Viki. Even after changing from HD to SD, episodes stop for no reason and I have to reload.
Last night I went looking for Midsomer Murders, my palate cleanser between kdrama courses, but couldn't find it on either Netflix or PBS. Dang! It's just unrealistic enough that it's fun to keep count as the bodies pile up. Talk about negative population growth!
I need help deciding on my next oldie but goodie (Fight My Way, Familiar Wife, Weightlifting Fairy or other?) and currently airing. I think I've been putting off great older shows with high school/college characters. Not sure why. I also want to watch Dear Friends, but then I don't - emotional cowardice, I need something fun after a hard day at work?

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For fun I vote for Weightlifting Fairy. I enjoyed all of them though.

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Shining Inheritance is one of my secret favorites. Like, I wouldn't *recommend* it to anyone, but Ive definitely watched it more than once.

Also, torn between voting for Fight My Way and Weightlifting Fairy. They are both my proud favorites. ♥️♥️♥️

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Exactly me on Shining Inheritance!

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WFKBJ is more fun than Fight my way.... not with that saying it is better. They are different shows. It is just that I feel we can laugh more with the weightfairy... My humble opinion

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I'll vote for Fight My Way. I loved that drama.

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I’ve been saving that one, because I love Park Seo-Joon. I think it’s time for me to watch it!

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Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo all the way! Fight My Way is excellent as well, so consider that a close 2nd place imo :D

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Midsomer Murders are fun. I have not seen the drama for years even though there are TV reruns all the time in my country. But I watched the old series several times

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I live watched the first episode of tale of nokdu, but my sixth sense told me the plot might be solid, so I kept it later for binge watching. And by God was that the best kdrama decision I ever made this year. The plot twist was one that actually was unpredictable. The last time I actually was astonished by a plot twist was circle in 2017.
The plot might go downhill (I just finished ep 10 now) but the plot twist will always remain memorable.
All these years of drama watching has made me extremely immune to any kind of plot twists so I really appreciate when a drama manages to surprise me.
Dramas like tale of nokdu and flower crew remind me why I started watching kdramas in the first place. These days I often keep forgetting that. Either the plots are extreme fluff with no substance or super serious and slice-of-lifey, both of which are not helpful for that sense of escapism that I desire.

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I loved every second of Tale of Nokdu. After reading some of the others' comments they apparently didn't enjoy some of it as much as I did.
Here's hoping I have a friend in you! And you'll like all of it!

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You guys aren't alone, I loved every second of it too! Wouldn't change anything, and even liked the politics plot (and Yul-moo letting Dong-joo go after finally realising she really can't stand being around him/chose Nokdu instead, feels consistent with his character and his only redeeming point which is that he cares for her).

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I totally agree! One thing I liked from the beginning was we knew there was a 2nd lead male and probably thought it would go the typical route, where she likes the 2nd lead first or something. But no, from the very first time he shows up on screen she gives the look like oh, no, here he comes again, do I have to put up with him? She never liked him one bit.
And when towards the end when she begged for Nokdu's life and said she'd go with Yul-moo, they didn't drag it out for an hour like most dramas would. It lasted for all of about two scenes before Nokdu came and spirited her away.

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Yeah they didn't do the she-liked-2nd-lead-first OR the she's-oblivious thing. Dong-joo knows he likes her, is willing to politely put up with him/defer to him only to the extent needed for his position, and that's it - she isn't even friendly, and it's not just out of consideration for the difference between their current statuses. Even when they were children and engaged, she's not shown thinking of him at all.

That's one thing I loved about that first kiss - Nokdu figured out Yul-moo couldn't possibly be the one Dong-joo liked, because she was that indifferent to all his grand gestures and moony looks. And told her so!

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Me too! This drama was engaging from beginning to end. I can't seem to move on from it..

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Me, too! It loved it from start to finish.

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Tale of Nokdu: I'm glad the drama managed to stick with Yul-moo/Injo overthrowing Gwanghae as per history AND found a way to provide out OTP with the happy ending they deserve. I thought Yul-moo had relented too easily (as if the writer was like "okay, we need to wrap this up"), so I couldn't truly enjoy the happy moments until the 9-year flashforward. I'm so glad all named members of Team Nokdu survived and now live together.

Catch the Ghost: So Grasshopper Leader is the Ghost and Yoo Jin alive. But the drama seems to giving her a slightly sinister vibe at the end, which feels like a nonsensical red herring. I am happy for Yoo Ryung's sake. I do wonder how they're going to catch the Subway Ghost in one week. The drama may be heavyhanded, but it is nimble at keeping up the pacing and twists.

Rookie Historian Gu Hae-Ryung: Finished and I really mourn the end of this drama. It's got a birth secret, tragic flashbacks, and some palace shenanigans, but it has such a refreshingly low-key slice-of-life energy and it never lost its focus on the role of historians and the importance of a truthful historical record. Shin Se Kyung was amazing as the titular character. Cha Eun Woo's acting was weak, but the casting fit very well, and Prince Dowon is more of a secondary character despite being one half of the OTP. Just a beautiful drama.

Chief Kim: Marathon rewatch. I love this drama as it's was fun and wacky all the way throughout. It is even better the second time around. I'm so happy Namgoong Min got to play Chief Kim. I wish there were more wacky male lead roles in kdramas. Junho was also impressive as Seo Yul. The entire cast was incredible.

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I have a serious problem. I haven't finished watching EXTRAORDINARY YOU because I was in the mood for something else and decided to come back to it. I watched SEARCH: WWW because I heard the love for this drama and the pairing of Hyun and Soul Ji Hwan (Lee Jae Wook). I was a curious to see why so many here were commenting on Lee Jae Wook.
I now know why. I was shocked at the difference between Ji Hwan and Baek Kyung in EXTRAORDINARY YOU. And SEARCH: WWW really shows his range (and I am goner when it comes to puppies). So my respect for him as an actor means I will now be invested in following his works.
So here is my problem: I can't watch EXTRAORDINARY YOU without being colored by my new impression of Lee Jae Wook. I was already rooting for Beak Kyung to have his coming of age story and redemption arc, now I just can't bear to watch him being in pain. It even eclipses the cuteness of Dan Oh and Haru (which I never thought could be possible). Argh.....

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After finishing The Untamed and Tale of Nokdu, I'm bored with anything and everything else both old and new, both k-drama and c-drama. Even the explicit scene in HISTORY 3.
Except for the British Baking Show. Maybe that's because I'm off sugar and am tasting the goodies vicariously.

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I mean, the explicit scene in HIStory3 was awful so there's that. Oh wait, I promised I would stop ranting about this show.

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It was bad, and now I'm angry all over again.

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I'm not angry, not yet anyway. Depends on how it will end and what lessons are to be learned by the characters, if any.

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And you dropped it, you didn't even get to the weird scene of them all in a cafe barking at each other. This show is awful.

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I'm still watching it (sort of) just to see how bad it can get.

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@egads Pretty Little Liars - the two were main protagonist characters and so could do no wrong.

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I dropped Pretty Little Liars but that relationship was all kinds of wrong.

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Sorry, sorry, I apologize - I deliberately posted this to see how you'd respond - no, really.
I know you want to stop ranting, but before you stop, can you tell me why you thought the explicit scene was awful? Was it: 1) in poor taste 2) not done well 3) Gross 4) porn 5) the age difference, even though the younger one was the aggressor (I forget the proper term).
I thought the drama, if it had taken another different approach between the characters, would be much more interesting. But that would have made one of the guys jealous, which would exhibit a trait of a not perfect human being and a more normal realistic relationship and I guess that isn't the point they're trying to make.

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I wrote all about it here
http://invisibledragon.home.blog/2019/11/21/hot-guys-getting-it-on-history3-make-our-days-count/

You'll also see from my comment in response to egads' below: I felt the sex scene was entirely a way for them to say "this (clearly gross statutory rape scenario) is okay because he's a top!"

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Oh, yeah, I remember I did read that. I don't know the laws for what defines statutory rape in Taiwan. What if they were both underage? That always confuses me...
Did you ever watch Pretty Little Liars? The high school teacher who was "going out" with the high school girl? Why didn't he go to jail?

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I don't know the age of consent in Taiwan, but the fact remains that an adult who is apparently well into his 20s is having a relationship with a teenager in high school. No matter who is the instigator, both romantically and sexually, the adult in this scenario has a moral obligation to put the brakes on. This child does not have the emotional maturity for this relationship, which is very apparent by his words and actions.

If both parties were underage that changes things as they would be on more equal footing in maturity and experience.

I did not watch Pretty Little Liars, but that teacher should have been charged as a relationship between a high school teacher and their student is a gross abuse of power.

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