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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Currently weecapping: Forest & Hyena

I’ll Find You on a Beautiful Day: With week two under our belts, I think it’s fair to say I flat-out love this drama. It has so many elements that I’m enjoying, but the biggest one this week was the use of the environment — those woods and mountains! Between the scene of Hae-won’s panicked (and literal) run-in with Eun-seob in the woods, and Min-jung getting lost on the hike, this drama has more forest than Forest. And not only that, but it’s gorgeously used — they’re doing what I imagine the PD of Forest wanted to do, making the environment such an integral part of the story’s tone and action. The wild woods (which actually mirrors “The Wind in the Willows” quite well!) are both beautiful and ominous, refuge and danger, and that sequence with Min-jung gone missing and everyone searching the woods for her in the dark, with the cello music swelling the background, and Eun-seob saving her — that was some beautiful film-making right there. And if it didn’t make you fall head over heels for Eun-seob, you must have a heart of stone.

Item: While I was waiting for more Hyena (read: Joo Ji-hoon) to grace my screen this week, I decided to check out the first episode of the universally abhorred Item. Yes, you read that right. It was a puzzle to me how a drama starring Joo Ji-hoon and Kim Kang-woo could bomb as much as this one did, and we all know how good I am at watching bad dramas, so I did it. And then I fell asleep halfway through the first episode — and that pretty much says it all. While I loooved Joo Ji-hoon’s character with his adorable little niece, that’s about the only thing I loved. The rest was just bad graphics, bad directing, and boredom. I know I should give it a little more time, but I’m sure there are better ways to spend my Hyena wait time.

 

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Currently recapping: I’ll Find You on a Beautiful Day

Itaewon Class: Yi-seo throwing hot tea in Geun-won’s face was so cathartic. She’s coming in handy in more ways than one for Sae-ro-yi. With Geun-won handled, it’s one down and one to go. Yi-seo is probably the only one who can face Chairman Jang without fear and match him in ruthlessness. I’ve found Chairman Jang a pretty stock villain, personally, so this might make things a little more interesting. I really wish they weren’t pushing romantic pairings in this show since none of the potential couplings are healthy. I’m rooting for everyone to just stay friends, but I fully expect to be disappointed.

No Second Chances: Woo-jae is the biggest idiot to ever idiot. He took Hae-ri back?! Argh, I’m done with him. A sedan of doom, really? Poor Bak-ha has been traumatized enough without Hae-jun being critically injured. Last time they separated, a life-threatening fire brought them back together, so maybe a life-threatening murder attempt will end this separation. Only one more week left—it’d better be chock full of Bak-ha, Hae-jun, and adorable baby goodness. Those three are the only reason I’ve stuck this show out.

Hi Bye, Mama!: It doesn’t make sense for Yu-ri to stay past the 49 days, and with the show’s focus on death and grief, I can’t see a fanciful happily-ever-after ending here. I foresee Yu-ri helping everyone learn to cope and move on after she’s gone for good. Although it’ll be sad, I’d find that ending much more meaningful. I’m mostly worried about Seo-woo. Yu-ri has been by her side for so long, and now they’re building a relationship. If she suddenly disappears, that could traumatize Seo-woo. And if anyone makes that adorable child sad, I will not be happy.

The Cursed: Jin-hee getting kidnapped spiced things up a bit. It was getting repetitive, as I’d feared it would. But things picked up a little in episode eight. So-jin is one frightening person. When this is all over, if they’re alive, Jin-hee needs to adopt her and get her some therapy. Now that it looks like the shaman is out of the way, getting at the CEO should be easier. Let’s hope the last two weeks have some surprises in store—I’m ready for some excitement.

 
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Hi Bye, Mama! (Episode 3-4)
It’s no surprise that more people would soon find out about Yu Ri’s return as she continued to stay close to Seo Woo at the kindergarten where Hyun Jung’s child attends preschool. It does feel as though the drama will set up a connection between toilet boy (was it a PPL? I didn’t spot anything) and Yu Ri, thus giving her one more task to complete in her 49 days, but maybe helping the ghost family move on from an outsider point of view may help her do that as well. We may also get jealous Kang Hwa in it all! I’m still reserving judgement on Min Jung until we find out her deal in that marriage.

Nobody Knows (Episode 1-2)
So in this drama, Ahn Ji Ho is going to become the new Nam Da Reum, falling from a rooftop to begin the show and forcing the adults to investigate the incident which then have loads of red herrings. Seo Young Joo also happens to be in this show, though I’m wondering if he’s also going to play another student like in Solomon Perjury or Beautiful World. Unlike these two shows however, there are adult elements present: the church, the school foundation, a serial killer case and our main lead. It should be really interesting seeing how everything gels.

I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day (Episode 3-4)
Unfortunately, the book club scenes just aren’t appealing to me and I skipped through them: the show simply provided a one-off introductory scene to the members and let them become extras possibly until the end of the show. Last week ended with Hye Won’s awkward meeting with Bo Young while this week repeated that with her mother. With regards to the former conflict, I’m on Hye Won’s side mostly cause Bo Young’s misunderstanding excuse is terrible. The latter one though will certainly be greyer: why did mom kill dad? Also, hi there Nam Joo: please do have scenes with Baek Kyung!

Itaewon Class (Episode 9-10)
As was expected, when the show began to focus on the revenge aspect, a lot of the characters that had nothing to do with that simply faded into the background: Seung Kwon and Hyun Yi became extras who had to catch up on the Geun Soo’s family did our boss wrong thingy (poor Tony didn’t even get lines). The introduction of an Important Character to us (the old granny) also means that supporting characters such as the gang boss just disappear. I have one really bold prediction to make: Geun Won will come out from prison a better man and he’ll be the crucial flipper to ruining his dad.

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Thanks @radily for making note that Seo Young-joo will be appearing in NOBODY KNOWS. I had missed him in the cast list. I enjoyed him in both BEAUTIFUL WORLD and SOLOMON’S PERJURY. At 22 he may not be that far from his own high school days. So he is the one degree of separation for these 3 dramas.
I really enjoyed the first two episodes of NOBODY KNOWS. KIM Seo-hyung is fantastic as Det. Cha Young-jin. The first 2 episodes received very nice ratings (imho, no spoiler, check out “Ratings Report” on Sunday).

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I don’t think anyone will become extra in IC. Plot is moving quickly so stay tuned. I enjoy IC because all character is unique, each has own struggle and growth. Love this drama and especially Kim Da Mi.

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@radily I agree with your bold statement about Geun Won. He will definitely be the one to bring his father's ruin, and very intentionally so.

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JAPAN

This Guy is the Biggest Mistake in my Life - 6/10 - I don't think there is much to say about this show now.

Love lasts forever - 6.5/10 A fluff that gets fluffy trends. Its a hit of the season. 6.5 the best i can give.

Marigold in 4 Minutes - 6.5/10 I am behind and have to say this show lacks energy. It should make your heart ache but it doesn't. For most part its boring day to day life but at last few minutes every episode takes nitro boost and become exciting. Maybe kdrama world's spicy nonsense has changed some part of my viewing experience.

Boku Dake ga 17-sai no Sekai de - 7/10 I see smile of Marie Iitoyo. episode 02 starting scene is made the episode for me. Teenagers who like to read manga have already read too many time-jump, time-skip scenario that when it happens in real life they come up with most nonchalant reaction. Popcron ready for drama.

Yuru Camp - Big promotion of camp products. cute girls selling cool products aka Idols want you to have these products for nice camping trip. @screentime - where is @alua

This is not a Business Expense - 7.5 out of 10 Months ago i had written about it. I have yet to finish last 3 episodes. Manga to live-action. If we have to do comparison then this kind of story works better in manga as you are able to happily consume the humour. In 3d medium you need more than dialogues and expression to make things work. Still worth watch aka good timepass.

Ship of Theseus - aka Ship sailing on tears of hero. Not a single episode goes by when he doesn't heartily cry. This dude takes tears shower.

No Need to Know - Still in watchlist

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Korea + China + Thai + Taiwan

When the weather is fine - 7/10 - trying hard to be melo. Romance could have worked if it was a bit more slow and abstract. For the setup romance look like right into your face.
You also feel 2 people having significant -ve events in life can be good for each other. Doesn't look like a good idea right now. I don't think anyone is getting sufficient return from this thin script.

Perfect Partner - 7/10 - The show is good.I'm enjoying it. Hero is meeting a doctor and that part alone raises its value. PR cases are good but their resolution is too idealistic, predictable and a bit lame. Heroine is frustrating many but i m not much amused. You want to punch few abusive side characters.

Crass Class - 4/10 ratings said all. show is trash and if i say more it would create heartburn.

Foursome - 3/10 porn what else.

Jao Sao Chan Yon - 3/10 - soap opera.

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what is the real name of foursome?

crass class is itewon class right - that i agree.. extremely overrated show, does not have any interesting character development, not anything differentiating it from usual soapy dramas

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I'm new to j-drama - one of the first I watched (am watching again and again) is The Novelist aka The Pornographer. It's so cleverly and humorously done, imo. I love the OST at the end Twilight Dreams, sung by Chichiro Onitsuka (I love her voice). I've been trying to find it on YT or anywhere else because I want to listen to it over and over but can't find it anywhere. Since you're knowledgeable about j-dramas, do you know where I can find this OST? Thanks!

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Try naked director too.

Why not buffer the episodes again and listen the song?
I found it on youtube -
Keyword - song title and singer name.
Google has song translation.

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It seems to be on Spotify, though I have premium and that might make a difference. https://open.spotify.com/track/1yVyUqCUdRTvtx3sFpHgbt?si=syTXbjk3Qv2CzQrr0v-4iQ

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Guess I was spelling her name incorrectly! I don't have a spotify account though. Will try yt again. Thanks everybody!

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I found it on Spotify as well. If you don't have access to that, try googling 竹财辉之助 混剪 是剧抛脸没错了, you should get a link to a fan made video on bilibili with that song as background music.

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The original song on Spotify is 6:10 min. I found a 2:21 MV on YouTube here. And translated lyrics here.

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Woo--hoo, thanks a million!

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@catocat

RE: Yuru Camp
It is amazing how connected you get to your camping gear. I suspect because not only how much you handle it and are aware of its warmth/dry enclosure you also have to physically lug it around and you feel every gram.

The only thing the show misses is how much the continual audio sequence of zippers and velcro becomes quite comforting. Every waking or going to the bathroom is a 6 zipper & 10 velcro sequence.

I still love that the show captures the simplicity of just looking at something as the sun sets or rises.

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Flu in the house... and I got sick as well. Keeping up only with Hi Bye Mama and Weather. Both are increasing my paper tissue consumption...

Little Seo-Woo needs hugs and showers of love, then she will bloom... so wake up family and start caring for those alive!!

Eun Seob seems to have enough hugs at home... but... what secrets / pains is he hiding?

I'm also still ff-watching Never Twice and they are ridiculous with the villains. Forget Terrible and Selfish Haeri... and give me the Baby!!! 😍😍Preferably with doting Kwak Dong Yeon 😊

And somebody finally started subbing Miss Truth!! Chinese dramas, especially wuxias (and other ancient China ones), often don't work for me... but this one with the female coroner and two charismatic male leads is so far keeping my interest.

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goign to say was an outcast.. started hanging out with that man from the woods (in the photograph).. that man died.. probably ES was there when he died and could not help

Or maybe he is just naturally quiet and an insomniac..

although this drama is trying to force fit miseries and pain on both main characters

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Watching only two shows at the moment
Nirvana In Fire - Loving it so far. I needed a short break in between and now am back binging. At ep 29
Hyena: I love this show!!

And Kingdom 2 are you here yet? Can’t wait!!!!

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Nobody Knows I'm curious about the connections between the bullying, the serial crimes and the weird Church.

I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day My favourite drama! I love everything and this week without episode will be very frustrating >_<

Money Game I don't understand fans who wants a relationship between Eugene and Hye Joon. I really like Eugene's character because he's a good villain. But he tried to shock her in the past, he tied a man to a crane and hit him after, he works for bad people... Not really a good base for a love relationship. Otherwise, I really liked this drama. I didn't understand all the financial part but the characters and the questions about the place of the government in the economy of a country were interesting.

Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life and No Second Chances I remember why I stopped to watch the week-end dramas, the interesting part is too small for 50 episodes.

Itaewon Class Geun Soo passing in the dark side of the Force is interesting to watch.

Hi Bye, Mama! I'm still not sure about this drama. But the actors are good.

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Regarding Money Game; Eugene has flaws. He thought that money is everything and he was outraged when Hye Joon did not manipulate currencies yet as he was harassing her, he recalled the time when his own mom was harassed by his dad. So he has some consciousness and he did not like himself for that ugly action. After that Hye Joon stayed away from him for a while but gradually she got to know him. In the end, as I wrote before in a different segment, she really changed him. I think he was intrigued by her at first, then he became interested in her and fell for her deeply. Tina who is a heir of Bahama told him that she loved him. With her protection, he would be fine, I mean more than fine, he would have a grand life style. But in the end he turned around cause of Hye Joon's sincere talk. She guided him to the point that he can be happy and content even if he needs to spend time in jail. I think he became a changed man. Hye Joon has a strong moral and principles and she is the guide not only for Eugene but everyone around her. She is a super cool woman.
I also like to comment on 'Eugene work for bad people'. Most equity firms such as hedge funds( something like Bahama) only care for money and they do anything to make a penny extra. It is a common practice and they do actually break law and when they break law, the fine is so minimum and they keep breaking laws. They do things very gray( banks included). However, just like Eugene who used to make excuses, they also must have their excuses.That is a sad fact in this world. We really need good government workers like Hye Joon and firm law makers asap.
Anyway, go back to the drama, when Hye Joo tells him to grow up, he was hurt and upset but at the end of the day, he realized that she and Cha were right about him.
It is Eugene's personal growth that interests me.
Regarding all things financial, it is a timely topic. With Corona scare, FED lowered fifty points and that is also a decision by FED cause Trump always pressured them to lower the rate for a while. Hye joon in the last eps talked about something like that!

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Kuruma @kururugi I wish I could say I'm enjoying Geun Soo's move to the dark side, but I'm not. seems strangely too out of character for me. Especially ep12. like, how low will he go? all of a sudden??

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Nobody Knows: This show is sad sad sad. I am not hopeful at all in this show. Usually I would hate that, but it is kind of refreshing that there will be no happy endings.

I'll find you on a beautiful Day: I am a fan. The first two episodes were trying a little too hard to be thoughtful, but it has fully settled into itself now. I love the slow burn of this romance. I also enjoy that Hye Won always questions Eun Seob. She always to seems to be wondering why he is helping her. I love that although we the audience know that they like each other, that we are still finding out their motivations. Hye Won is such a strong character and it is great. Also Park Min Young is the oldest lead on set by at least 6 years. That is a change.

Hyena: She is now part of Song & Kim. I am still not sure I understand the motivations of Geum Ja or Pil Joong, but we shall see.

Itaewon Class: Brava PSR. Yi Seo needed to hear he didn't like her romantically. I want more kdramas to emulate this plan, you cannot force someone to like you based on effort. That is not how it works. Guen Soo can learn from that too. What Geun Soo did was petty and mean spirited, but Yi Seo has been nasty to him for some time now, so she deserved it. All that being said, I do feel bad for her, this is a harsh lesson for someone who is spoiled and used to getting what she wants. My hope is she learns to grow from this, but that may not happen. My poor Toni, at least he is meeting his grandmother. Also please kdramas, please stop acting like Africa is some small city where everyone knows each other, it is a whole continent, and Guinea is a whole country. Also question for Beanies, is this going to have 2 seasons, because we are at episode 11 and still in the past?

Hi Bye Mama: Well the best friend is aware. This should be interesting. I am honestly surprised she hasn't run into more people she knows with the way she just wonders all over the place.

Tell Me What you saw: This is still fine.

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I think PSRY is going to fall for Yi Seo constantly telling him she likes/loves him.. he seemed to be a little moved by it when she said it the second time around. Hi Bye Mama, I really love Cha Yu Ri, she is so unselfish, she is trying to help everyone and not trying to stay on earth, I hope she stays in the end, its not likely but I still hope she does. The husband and the new wife have like zero chemistry. lolol

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- Itaewon Class
- The Cursed - this is so interesting!!
- Tell Me What You Saw

Watching tons of youtube videos lately that I lessen my kdrama watching time. I got addicted with koreanenglishmen. They're so funny! I also watched asmr baking videos.

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Korean Englishman is great! Their other channel, JOLLY, too. One of the few YouTube channels I visit semi-regularly 🙂.

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KE is great, I'm more inclined towards Jolly because it's more fun but it's still the same people lol.

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Yeah, I watch Jolly more than KE.

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Don't forget Gabie Kook - Josh's wife - great recipes.

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Yessss watching Jolly too! And some Gabiekook's recipe.

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My Holo Love - Loved it! I actually picked it up because I thought it would be cheesey and just the perfect thing to play while I do other things, and I also liked Yoon Hyun Min. It was more of a healing drama than I had expected. I was riveted and I binged the whole thing. It was a tight 12-episode run , and it stuck the landing, leaving me perfectly satisfied. The drama did a great job at depicting a palpable sense of loneliness in the characters even though they do have people that love them around them. As I got to really know Holo, how he came to be, and what he really meant to the characters, I also felt a yearning for a Holo to be my always-there companion. I was dreading a love triangle because there really wasn't much of one and the love/friendship between Holo, Nando, and So Yeon was very touching. So were the love/friendship of their friends, families, and colleagues.

Story aside, I really liked the visuals and music of the drama. the depiction of AI and all the various technical aspects were surprisingly well-done. The actors also performed wonderfully, with special shoutout to Yoon Hyun Min who played like 6 versions of Holo/Nan-do. There was one moment that triggered me to think of Psychopath Diary. When I looked up the writer, he also wrote Psychopath Diary, which I also loved.

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You should watch Yoon Hyun Min in Tunnel and Witch's Court, I swear you will swoon! Hehhehe

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How true, I loved him in both.

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Witch's Court was where he first caught my attention. :)

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I enjoyed Holo too! The relationships—even the toxic parental ones—were interesting. I was surprised, however, by the lack of memorable music. It didn't really have any tracks that hooked into my brain. It all felt very "background-y." And that's really unusual for k-dramas, isn't it?

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It is! The choice of background-y sounding music and the lowered volume of it made it feel a bit like a US production. And instead of ending the episode on the usual close-up freeze frames of the characters' expressions while a bombastic song plays, this drama just cuts to black and roll credits with soft music. Thought it was refreshing!

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I listen to this soundtrack on Spotify actually! I find it perfect as calming, zone-out background music.

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Now that Dr. Romantic 2 and Stove league are done, not many ongoing dramas interest me. Dropped The Game and Tell me What You Saw. The former is getting more absurd and the later is not interesting enough despite having Jang Hyuk and Jin Seo-yeon. Is Nobody Knows any good so far?

I finished watching Investigation Couple/Partners for Justice season 1 and 2. There should be an award for creating the nastiest characters for the writer. They seem to be able capture the worst sides of human being and planting it into the bad guys’ characters. Even those gray ones grate on my nerves. I want to smack so many people in season 1 but learn my lesson by fast forwarding through the bad guys’ scenes in season 2. It is leaning towards overdramatic side, but I like Sherlock Holmes, so it works for me.

Jung Jae-young and Oh Man-seok are awesome tho. Jung Yu-mi’s character also grows on me, she’s a green prosecutor, but at least she knows her place. Kang Seung-yeon is great when she’s channeling her inner female Baek Beom. No Min-woo is much better when he is the insane Dr. K. And it’s been so long since I last saw him. I was wondering who’s the female doctor with such a broad shoulder and why is her chest flat. Then I literally screamed that’s No Min-woo, that’s how pretty he is. Jang Cheol’s life is so tragic. If they want to make another season I hope he returns, since his body was never found. I could watch another season of cranky Baek Beom telling everyone not to write a novel.

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Yes The Game is having more and more plot holes.... but it is so close to the end. I stay because of the villain, he is too cute to be hateful and his acting is always great. I think now I can confidently say this drama has two male leads, both have equal screen times, tall and handsome. But why one got burnt on the face and the other only got a little scratch? The whole car burst in flames. Plot hole! SMH.

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I might take a peek at the last episode to see if it could lure me in to resume watching😆

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Finished:

THIRTY BUT SEVENTEEN: Yet another example of why I love kdramas so much. What a lovely, encouraging, feel-good show ❤️. Also, it seems like there’s been a few of us who have been watching or rewatching this show lately. I keep seeing it mentioned 🙂.

Watching:

I WILL FIND YOU WHEN THE WEATHER IS NICE/I WILL FIND YOU ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY/WHEN THE WEATHER IS FINE (OR WHATEVER THE HECK THIS DRAMA IS CALLED): I’m one of those people who can enjoy slower paced shows, so I’m really liking this one so far. It’s soothing. I’ve been wanting to see a kdrama primarily set in the countryside like this. And I’ve already fallen hard for Eun-seob. I’m interested to learn his backstory. His present life seems lovely, but the show is hinting at some hidden darkness. I’ve been eagerly awaiting the next episodes, but I just found out I’ll have to wait an extra week 🙁. Stay safe everyone.

THE PRODUCERS: I was looking for something to watch while waiting for new I Will Find You episodes and landed on this. It has familiar faces (Kim Soo-hyun, Gong Hyo-jin, IU, Cha Tae-hyun), and it’s only 12 episodes. I just started so I don’t have an opinion yet, but I’m hoping for an enjoyable in-between watch.

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The Producers was quite a good drama. I watched it while it aired, can’t really remember what it was about now except for Kim Soo Hyun being a cute noona-loving character. And Gong Hyo Jin always picks good dramas so, rest assured and enjoy the drama ☺️

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I remember Cindy...

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Re 30B17. A lovely drama. I enjoyed watching the Yang Se-jong and Ahn Hyo-seop reunion last night when I watched episode 15 of ROMANTIC DOCTOR , TEACHER KIM 2. As expected it was not quite Chan meeting up with Samchon but still delightful.

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You can watch Chan meeting up with Samchon in the Making.

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No joke, I recently rewatched Thirty but Seventeen and it blew me away. It was one of the first dramas I watched and I liked it pretty well, but now that I understand kdramas deeply, the rewatch allowed me to take in so much more. It's an absolute favorite.

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Itaewon Class - Just caught up with last week's eps. I kind of saw Chairman Jang's twist coming, though didn't see how it was going to go down. His ego is going to be his downfall, obviously. The mind games and intrigue and back-and-forth is starting to get old and tired. I'm sticking around for PSJ and the characters.

Hyena - I was all-in for the first two episodes, but now it seems we've crossed into regular lawyer show territory: head partners making weird shady background deals, case/client-of-the-week, etc. All reasons I have trouble sticking with procedurals and medical shows in general. HOWEVER - the leads in this are still fiiiiiiire. Every time they're on screen together the chemistry is palpable, I'm definitely into them. So I'll stick around for the leads, with my own stash of secret wishes for their story, but I'm likely going to FFW a lot of the other "plot".

Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo - I just watched the last episode and am devastated. Devastated that it's over. There was so much hype about this show, I'd read it everywhere, I was befuddled. Man, am I glad I gave in and watched. LSK and NJH are now my ultimate favourite couple - not only cause they're adorable and, let's face it, extremely attractive together. But they're also the only couple I've seen so far that didn't have any wishy washy noble idiot interlude. They literally stuck by each other through thick and thin - it was so refreshing. And of course the rest of the cast was stellar. This is for sure going on my rewatch list.

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What made weightlifting delightful was how organic their relationship was. No childhood traumas, no love at first sight, no water splashing mother’s, no noble idiocy, no annoying love triangle etc.
and I have a soft spot for college romances. It’s kinda innocent but not like high school innocent. This show captures their individual growth also beautifully.
And can’t say enough ‘swag’!!

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"Do you like Messi?"
😁

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Totally agree! I feel like re watching. It is a very fresh drama, very very sweet as well....

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It is one of the rare SK Drama romances where the couple actually just liked each other - like ordinary people.
They didn't torment each other, they didn't manipulate each other for status or power. They just did the normal things of navigating the beginning of a relationship where the rest of the world is also making demands of you.

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Hyena
Moving Geum-Ja into H&S the drama turned its back on the most interesting thing about the show.

H&S moves the blocks to make wins, Geum-Ja manipulated the fishers in between to make the blocks move. Her world of retro eclectic furnishings was part or her living in a parallel world and like Terry Gilliam's "Time Bandits" her moves make no sense to those in the ordinary Cartesian world or power and status.

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Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo is an ABSOLUTE favourite for watching and re-watching and re-re-watching !
SWAG!

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and I agree with you, @thetinyl , the mind games and intrigue in Itaewon Class are... boring... It made me sad to admit it, but I lost a bit of my interest in the show after ep.8 or 9, I think. CEO Jang's such a stock evil boss, it's sad. And yes, I know it's the source material's "fault" but... * sigh *

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woah, I don’t have anything on my kdrama plate this month, after live-watched Chocolate, War of Prosecutors, and Crash Landing on You..not yet finding anything interesting to try to watch either,

but, I was on the spell of Cdrama (title: Under The Power) during February and haven’t been able to move on from its hillarious (but swooniest) banter between OTP that I haven’t seen in drama for a while ;D <3
seriously, I was checking it since it was said as investigation/procedural drama, but it instanly hooked me on ep 1 because of it has wuxia style (fighting coreo, and the costume), and goodness me the chemistry of the OTP just brought my romantic side apparent for the whole series, lol..I just want to bottle Allen Ru’s style as male lead Lu Yi (costume, hair, and everything!) forever in any wuxia series, he looked soo fine here! ;p
now it has ended but I still re-watch my most fave part for whole week this week :D

I have a thing for office drama, and food-centric drama, whoopsa I found both genre in my jdrama schedule:
*Okazu kun in Ad agency’s Men’s Dorm: 4 office mates having Friday Night dinner get-together in Okazu’s place, cooking, and talking about anything, it’s soo relaxing for my Friday night, haha..I watch for their friendship and the simple recipe! the food is simple but look delicious nonetheless! My fave story is the valentine day’s ep, while the recipe I found surprising is the 500yen menu,,It just made me want to start chopping daikon and making it into delicious enoki-smeared-soup and the fritters ;D
*This is Not a Business Expense: office drama that made me laugh because I soo can see the similarity with my closest office mates which happend to be the finance/account girls in my office, they are too a no-nonsense like Morikawa-san (the female lead in this drama) when it comes to checkin the finance claims, lol. This show come from channel NHK-G, which I trust since I had some of my most favourite shows from it, and happily liking this one too, I’m up to ep 5 and hope it will stays good till the end.

I also watch Ship of Theseus, eventhough the most part of ep 1 didn’t grab my attention, I should admit that the ending of the first ep made me want to check the 2nd one, and I can say that it holds my curiousity on what really happened to the dad 18yrs ago,,I still have some issues with plotholes/unclear world building in the story, but I like Ryoma Takeuchi in the drama ‘Rikuo’ and want to see him as a lead, so I plan to continue watching this where he could be on the edge of over-crying-acting but not in the annoying territory, yet. ;)

I miss watching kdrama, by the way, but patiently waiting for Eric’s Chef Moon (coming in the fortnight I believe, yeay!), and Song Seung Hoon and Seo ji Hye’s Dinner show in May (soo far, sob).

That’s all, stay safe and stay healthy where ever you are (while watching drama), beanies!

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Last weekend I watched the first 3 eps of This is Not a Business Expense. I was surprised that I stayed so interested in a show about accounting, lol.

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Oh! I'm glad you mentioned Under the Power! I just started it on Viki but they only have nine eps or something and I didn't want to get too into it only to have to wait. Now that I know it's finished I'll keep going and find it elsewhere. Tan Song Yun is a joy to watch. I love her energy.

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Thanks for recommending Under the Power. I was looking for a new Chinese drama to watch and your description appealed to me. I've enjoyed the episodes I've watched so far, so I really appreciate your comment!

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Itaewon Class Ep 1-10 - A boring week. No social comment, just same old attempts at taking control of a company. Every scene between villains and hero makes me embarrassed and the special secret sauce moment was ridiculous. This show makes me miss Money Flower. If anyone had any doubts about Yi-Seo's loyalty or villain's greed they were not paying much attention.

Hi Bye Mama Ep 1-3 - I don't feel any sympathy for most of the characters, they are not real enough and I hate the premise she was allowed to come back in her own body making her family miserable again. I know the idea is to make them move on but it's too absurd to be funny.

The Novelist Ep 1-3 - I should be liking this more because it has all the right elements for a proper BL but there is no real romance.

Because of You - Ep 1-2 - The eps are so short and has too many characters, I don't get why BL writers don't think about exploring just one couple instead of coming up with all kinds of crazy boring conflicts.

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The Novelist is one of my favorites. I love the OST, the music, the dry humor, and there are surprises in store for you. The follow-up Mood Indigo explains more of his background and why he is the way he is, but I found it rather boring. I'm re-watching The Novelist right now for probably the 4th or 5th time. There's a really good review and thoughts elsewhere because I have a hard time putting into words why it's so clever.

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Hey @linda-palapala watched the other 3 eps last night.
There were no surprises really, it's easy to guess the writer was playing a trick with the arm, the only twist was making him write a copy. I liked that. The drama itself I didn't like much. Watching ep 4 I realized the issue wasn't the lack of romance, I could imagine myself liking this very much even if it was just attraction, it was the main characters personalities. The novelist seemed to always be secretly laughing at the expense of the student, and the boy overreacted too much. I'd have someone rewrite the whole drama, making them both more human and interesting.

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One of the things that I liked was the novelist secretly laughing at the naive student and his over-reacting. I would never re-write the drama, it was exactly what I liked, and they were very human in their actions and emotions (especially being male). Plus, the novelist was quite lonely and wanted to keep him around (selfishly). I'm not sure if it's in Novelist or if it's in Mood Indigo but the novelist eventually falls for the student, who by then is a businessman, and they start dating (Mood Indigo). In other words, the tables were turned on the novelist.
I thought the musical score added to the whimsy, the tenderness and added a lightness to the drama, which was really about two lonely people.

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Cont'd: did you watch thru the whole ending credits? There's always an added scene that gives you more.
I just read comments on other sites and there were far more people who didn't like it, esp the ending. Guess I just as usual see things differently.

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It's ok, we all have different ideas about what is romantic. To me it wasn't romantic but I could understand how they were both very attracted, if the show wanted to say it was something else it should have explored more of them getting to know each other. I liked the music too.

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@lixie Did you assume this was supposed to be romantic? I never thought the drama fit in the category "romantic", so I wasn't expecting love in the romantic sense. Physical pleasure and need and loneliness, that's what it was portraying.
Back to your "twist" about the arm and playing a trick. It was made clear to the viewer almost from the beginning that the author was playing a trick (the cell phone, the left-handedness, etc). If the whole thing was a surprise twist the viewer would have learned about the deception at the same time the student did.
I have to say I've always been attracted to quirky and weird dramas rather than cotton candy romance...

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I should probably stay out of this but... what the hell..

As I said yesterday, I have seen The Pornographer quite a long time ago. It was a bad quality version with terrible subs so I was somewhat loathe to bring a verdict down on it. As such I'll simply say that, for me personally, the reason I don't generally like Japanese romances generally and Japanese BL particularly is because they are concerned often with coercive, manipulative or outright abusive relationships. I don't find them interesting or sexy or romantic. I'm from the school that manipulating somebody into sex isn't seduction, it's a form of abuse. I understand it seems to service a particularly Japanese sensibility but it's not personally for me.

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I, too, should stay out of this, but what the hell...
I do believe you've let all of us know before exactly how you feel.
Hmm, how do I say this: I think most males try to manipulate females into having sex. I don't think it's particularly limited to Japanese. And what's just as bad, imo, is the ridiculous unrealistic romantic ideas of males in k-dramas. The idea that males rarely want to kiss, and kisses never lead to anything else? (I'm imagining what happens when the guy goes home by himself and he's in the shower...quite physical, whereas the female who goes home by herself is dreamy-eyed and imagines only kisses and hugs.)
As far as most j-dramas, bl or whatever, I've only watched 4 j-dramas I think (which is more than enough for me), Pornographer and Mood Indigo (bl) and Coffee and Vanilla (straight out of the manga) and Scum's Wish. Scum's Wish was the least offensive boy/girl because it was teenage discovery and exploration re sexual desire. I seem to be the only one who got that out of it, as per usual, most people hated it because she let him go and they didn't end up together.
I didn't find the Pornographer particularly manipulative or abusive but unlike you who can write coherent blogs, I can't seem to put together a sentence that makes sense, I don't know how to explain it isn't manipulative because it might seem like it is on the surface. It's companion drama, Mood Indigo, was manipulative and abusive and it wasn't shown to be a good thing. It did show the pornographer's back story which explained why he was the way he was.
I'm not explaining my thoughts well or getting my thoughts across, very frustrating for me!...
The few I've watched where it's a male/female relationship (mostly manga and written for teenage girls I'm assuming) have all been the same: young naive girl who's never done anything and is mostly submissive and the male who knows everything and must teach the girl. What I find most offensive is the pat on the head - what is she, the pet dog?
Your statement: "I don't find them interesting, sexy or romantic". Re Pornographer I didn't find it sexy or romantic (why does everything have to fit in the category of sexy or romantic??), but it was interesting. Their relationship was interesting.
I used to read Haruki Murakami years ago. Then lately I tried to re-read one of his books and was disgusted with the treatment of women in his books. But what did I expect? It was written by a male who viewed females as only sexual objects.
It will take me a few more hours or days to think. Thoughts come slowly...

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You know what!
Haruki Murakami?
We agree!

The way he writes about women is horrible. I can't read his novels anymore. But have you seen Murakami bingo? It might give you a laugh.

https://news.avclub.com/here-s-how-to-play-haruki-murakami-bingo-as-you-read-hi-1798271345

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I think the first BL for me was Japanese. The 2 Seven Days movies, before that I didn't even know they existed over there. I like jdramas but the romances I know are few, so I don't know if the lovely Date and We Married as a Job are the exception, and the horrible Rich Man Poor Woman is the rule.

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@leetennant your link to Murakami bingo was hilarious. I googled Murakami tropes but the article wasn't as funny. The first thing I think of with Murakami is "cats" and "jazz". In fact, when they put on the jazz record in The Novelist my first thought was "Murakami's jazz".

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@leetennant So, an hour later and I remember something else...(slow brain processing): Pornographer, I liked the camera work, the camera's intimacy, the musical score, the OST, the pacing, the conversation, the monotone voice the pornographer uses as he's dictating to the university student, the animated facial expressions of the student, his imagination running wild, etc.

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@linda-palapala Yes, I did, don't ask me why eheheh, I just assume any BL will involve romance. I don't expect the relationship will be only about attraction, not that there is anything wrong with that. I'll say I'm also into quirky and weird, I'm the first to run to some twisted affair, even Addicted was very good to me, and that was almost an abusive relationship. It was just the personalities were not that likable and the feeling that the story was trying to get into romance but not really going there.

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I loved Addicted! If there ever was an abusive relationship, I do believe Addicted fit that. Somebody around here talked me into reading the novel, so I read most of it and the relationship (imo) got even more abusive. How they ended up married I just didn't understand.

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I don't think romance and sex are necessarily the same thing. Or sex and love. Or romance and love. Wait, I don't think I know the meaning of "romance"...

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No edit button! Agree with you on Itaewon, and it was my favorite til now. Because of You is fairly bad, but I'm watching it anyway since it's so short. It's like it's a 2 hour movie cut into 10 episodes.
I could spoil you for the "no real romance" bit (it's so tempting), but you'll have to watch Mood Indigo if you want to know what happens. The acting is so good in this little drama, I love the young naive university student and the older but wiser and jaded novelist.

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@lixie glad I'm not the only one that found Itaewon Class boring last weekend... * feels relieved *

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My biggest problem with Itaewon Class is that the characters all seem to have rigid roles and inclinations as defined by a script the audience is not meant to question, which feels a bit limiting, especially when I have a hard time relating to characters' motivations. Still, I like the soundtrack and the actors, and there is something addictive about the show.

The first few episodes of Hi Bye Mama left me with an impression similar to yours. I find most of the attempts at humor off-putting and unfunny. The exaggerated behavior and circumstances serve to reinforce unsympathetic aspects of the characters, and there's nothing funny about the scenario itself. The heroine has a number of good qualities, including selfless devotion to her family, but she can be dumb and annoyingly irrational at times. Plus, I really hate that she's been brought back from the dead, which would be impossible to explain in real life. The husband is a complete mess, too, and since his terrible trauma has become a form of selfishness and unethical professional behavior, it's harder to like him, too. Everyone is just too screwed up, and I don't think the show is able to balance comedy and tragedy well.

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What I watched this week: my dreams for a new SSR drama shattered into pieces 😢🤭 #dramatic

I watched Master in the House. Lee Seung Gi has an amazing voice. Also a trot legend wants to sign a contract with SSR 😆.

I watched Forest up to ep 11 or half of ep 6. I'm taking my sweet time to watch this, taking long breaks in between. It's a so-so drama. Nothing exciting.

Watched the depature of first gen Grey's Anatomy member Alex Karev from the show. It was an okay send-off imo. At least he's alive and not mauled by a bear or something. Fans of the show didn't like his sendoff though, many said it was character assasination. Me: good bye Alex. I didn't realize he was missing since mid s16. This show has too many characters 😅.

Today I started watching Handsome Tigers. Ep 1 was quite dramatic. I like sport shows and I like basketball. But I'm also impatient...I ffwd several parts like the husband and wife date parts. I'm interested to watch them play more. Player no10 has caught eye. He's good! (Ps: I hope they will invite SSR and Kim Hyuk to play with them. Hehehe)

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It would have been cool though if Karev had gone to Australia to help with the bush fires and then gotten mauled by a dropbear. That's a proper heroic send off instead you, you know, being dragged by a bus, or going back to your former girlfriend ten years after you broke up because you learned about the children she didn't tell you about.

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Ohh...that would have been an heroic sendoff. But would fans really be satisfied? Quoting Meredith: ...the truth is, there's really no good way to say goodbye. (Me: thinking of the ending in TLE....Hyuk 😢. I was satisfied with TLE ending, but many weren't)

I watched without reading comments beforehand. At first I was bummed Alex only sent letters. Then the show started doing flashbacks and relate nearly everything. I didn't expect them to link Izzie because of behind the scenes drama with the actress and how the character was written off.

Alex imagined an imaginery happy life for her instead of hating her when she left (shown in a flashback lol). He wanted to call but never did, and once the opportunity came (Meredith's trial, which was a whole other level of drama)...he finally called and never looked back. I assume she never told him she had his kids because he signed papers allowing her to do anything with their frozen embryos.

Imo, all 4 letters made narrative sense and were interlinked. Either it's moraly correct or not is another story. I say Richard had the best reaction to his letter. He was rightfully pissed. It was a one-sided goodbye.

What Alex did to Jo was unfair to her. But quoting Jo: she is her own hero. Imo the drama is trying to go the women empowerment route and emphasize that women are capable to succeed and be happy without relying on men. There's nothing wrong with that, in fact it is welcomed. Unfortunatly, by doing that...it seems that they are also butchering male characters. Which is a pity.

As far as Alex's ending was....he's still a doctor somewhere in US. And it's somewhat an open ending allowing his character to return in the future.

Disclaimer: this is based on events in the latest episode which includes tonnes of flashbacks. I forgot most scenes even happened or missed it completely.

Lol. This is the longest I've written for a GA episode! Hahahaha 🤣 *what is happening to me*

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Almost as cool as a redemption arc with Hyuk where he ends up being a musical theater actor.

(I was also okay about the ending of TLE. He had to die. There was no other way to end his story with any satisfaction. Imagine if he had ended up in prison without instant coffee? No. just no.)

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I havent watched Grey's in some while, but this send off makes me a little sad. I think what made me love Grey's in the first place was the bonds that formed between members of that initial group of characters. I found that the real heart of the show and after I left and came back I found an echo of it in the Karev/Meredith friendship.

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I'm still on Season 15 of Grey's. Need to catch up soon.

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I'm still waiting for 'Tell Me What You Saw' and 'The Cursed'

But, I just saw 2 episodes of 'Hyena', and I like that very much!
Especially, Kim Hye Soo, I like her since 'The Queen of the Office.
I also impress with how the writer told about her background. So, she always a fighter, an abused little girl rises from poverty and struggles to make a living.

She may not have any moral or just simple kills her empathy. I was so cringey when she threatened the mother of a victim. Yet, I found out she gave the man money to study abroad, in exchange of dropping the charge... Well... I may do so many cringes watching these, which are good. Now, I will wait till it reaches 12 episodes or more. I hate suspenseful waiting.

Also, I have been watching 2 episodes of 'Nobody Knows'. Kim Seo Hyung rocks her role. It has been ages since I saw Ryu Deok Hwan, well... after God's Quiz, at least. He is one of my favorite actors. He didn't appear much yet. I am so waiting for him to take his main part in this drama. While waiting, and if I can have extra money, I am too, will eat expensive dishes as a revenge for waiting for him too long! Ha! Good thing I love sushi.

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C-drama - 'Find Yourself'
I guess, love story really isn't my thing.
I am still waiting for a good Chinese historical drama. Maybe when Chen Fei Yu's 'Legend of Awakening' starts in April. I will see if he lives up to the expectation. There was something irked me on his acting in 'My Best Summer', but I can't pinpoint that, or maybe when he smoked? Or when he played the older part.

The same with Karry Wang's 'Guardians of the Ancient Oath'. It drags tooooooooo looongggg. It's a problem with most of C-drama. I just don't have times for fast forward button.

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I love cats, especially black angora and british shor hair cats.
They adorbs! I laughed so loud when Nala gets cranky on her owner. It just shows that cat owns us, not the opposite.

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Is anyone watching the basketball variety show Handsome Tigers?
I’m not really a fan of basketball and I started watching it since I like Lee Sang-yoon and Cha Eun-woo, but I didn't know that basketball games could be so exciting and thrilling! LSY is a really good and stable player as the team captain. CEW is really hardworking, fast-learner and consistently improving (and how does his face still shine after running around the court, all sweaty? I'm so jealous.) The team's ace, model Moon Soo-in is the breakout star and I won't be surprised if he starts getting casting offers after this show.
The team struggled so much against more experienced amateur players at first, but practices and hard work will always pay off, and it's nice to see them growing and improving as a team. I've been enjoying this show lately.

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I watched some of it 😆. It's fun. If you're interested with sports variety show, you might enjoy Cool Kidz on the Block. It was a group a beginners + amateurs trying new sports. Basketball was one of the sports they played. Seo Ji Suk and Julian were part of the cool kidz team. They had a superstar player: Kim Hyuk. I kinda want HT to recruit Kim Hyuk too 😆. They also had a match between Korea Uni(?) and Yonsei alumni.

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BEAUTY INSIDE: Wow, I had so much fun watching these couple episodes! I can’t believe I held off on watching it when it was airing, especially when I knew I would just love this. Episode 6 is definitely going to be the highlight episode our of the series for me. Kim Min-seok has a fan in me now! (ep. 5-6)

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HISTORY3: MAKE OUR DAYS COUNT: I think I’m one of the few who actually enjoyed this drama while it was airing.

But that ending was… wow. Just what a mess overall.

Since I was expecting it, it wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Just incredibly bizarre. I’m not quite sure what to make of it.

It almost looked like Hao Ting was saying his goodbyes and was planning on committing suicide. I don’t know.

This whole last episode (and if I’m really honest with myself, most of the drama) is a prime example of messy/bad writing. I don’t even know what the writer was trying to convey in some of the conversations during the last episode. Some of this could be due to a clumsy English translation. But what I suspect more, is that the writer was trying to go for a shocking and meaningful ending and just completely and utterly failed.

Would I recommend this? Probably not. It’s not horrendous, but it’s probably not up to the quality (in some cases) that we’re used to from the other HISTORY series.

There were parts I enjoyed. The acting by the main couple was decent. There wasn’t much chemistry between them, but again, not unbearable. The friendships were great, and watching this group was a joy at times. Overall, if you consider want to say you’ve watched the entire HISTORY series, go for it. Just be prepared for the story to gradually unravel (as well as for the incredibly out of place explicit moments). (ep. 19-20) *3.75 out of 5 stars*

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Why I thought the ending was good and appropriate (Make Our Days Count). If you've ever lost a loved one suddenly in an accident, you'd know the exact feeling he was going through in the last episode, not being able to see his one true love again, just - suddenly- gone, no chance to say goodbyes, no last chance to say you love them. If the young guy had been in flashbacks or whatever in the last episode it would have ruined the mood you felt having lost someone. I mean, I really felt the hole in my heart too.
I don't think Hao Ting was planning suicide, it was a pure, shocking accident. The writing wasn't for shock value, but yet it was since I felt the shock at his loss. Nothing else could have told us how devastating it is to lose someone so suddenly like that. The message of the drama was to make your days count because you never know what's going to happen tomorrow.

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I understand that was the message, it just didn't leave an impact for me. I was just left with the feeling that the writer didn't know what to do with the ending. I can see this in the comments on MDL from people who didn't even realize that Xi Gu was dead until a good ways into the final episode.

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Maybe it has to do with our own life experiences and emotions. I'm an extremely emotional person and can empathize and feel what others are feeling, so it really impacted me in an emotional way.

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Don't get me wrong, it tugged on my emotions. Hao Ting's actor did a really good job showing his character's grief. But the episode as a whole was just weird to me.

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Regardless of what they were trying to say, they killed a gay guy to propel a straight guy's arc so that entire show should be endosolistrated - and that's before we get into the fact that relationship was abusive.

It's all good though, @egads and I know the truth. XiGu faked his death with the help of his Aunt and ran far far away. He's now happy, well fed, in a healthy relationship and is busy planning how to get Phoebe out too.

The alternative is that this is the story of an emaciated orphan kid who spent his whole life dragging himself out of poverty through sheer hard work and perseverance who then gets killed – off screen – for the character arc of a bully who harassed him into a relationship. One who's now back dating girls because, you know, NOT GAY.

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Hao Ting dating girls, or even anyone after, felt really odd to me. The writers definitely just did a bad job on the last episode. It was quite clear he wasn't even into whoever that girl was.

Just weird writing overall, in the last episode. (I seem to have liked the drama overall more than you did, though.)

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Poor bloody Phoebe. They didn't even bother to cast her! The funny thing was, I hated that show from the beginning. I hated the relationships, I hated how badly written it was, I hated everything about it. And then they managed to write an ending that alienated even the people who had liked it!

I still can't believe a HIStory series Buried Its Gays. I find it incomprehensible.

Anyway I wrote a thing while it was airing on why I hated it so much
http://invisibledragon.home.blog/2019/11/21/hot-guys-getting-it-on-history3-make-our-days-count/

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@leetennant I'm really confused here - are we talking about the same drama? Sounds nothing like what I watched (Make Our Days Count).
If it's the same drama, did you even watch the last episode? Before I say anything else I need to know what you're talking about, because if it's the same drama then - did we even watch the same drama?? Color me confused...

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Yes @linda-palapala we're talking about History3: Make Our Days Count.

Considering the subjective experience of watching a drama, it is entirely possible we were in fact watching a different show.

But I really really really ranted about this while it was airing - on the fan wall, on my blog, on MDL, and on WWW each week. I'm surprised you missed how much I hated it. This is up there, for me, with Well Intended Love in terms of romanticising abusive relationships.

In fact it spurred me to write a blog post on how the relationships in the HIStory series are very problematic.

http://invisibledragon.home.blog/2019/12/15/a-history-of-problematic-relationships/

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Okay, first of all Hao Ting did not go back to dating girls because he was straight. His parents wanted him to try to help him get over the loss of Xi Gu and not be gay. He tried. Hao Ting wasn't necessarily straight or gay, he truly loved Xi Gu with all his being, regardless of whether he was male or female. The last conversation of the drama makes this clear. He'd never find another Xi Gu.
He even tried getting to know Xi Gu's doppelganger but the dop personality was not even close to Xi Gu.
As far as "they killed the gay guy" off screen - again I say, that had much more of an emotional impact, your true love has suddenly gone. It was much more meaningful, imo.
It even hurt my heart to not see him, just as it hurt my heart to not see the little kitty down the street today because he was suddenly killed and gone. And that was "only" a kitty.
Don't take this too seriously, but I get the feeling you are going by someone else's review, did you really even watch the last episode?
Or perhaps I'm the only person who saw what I saw or it had the meaning it had for me!

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@leetennant Oh, no, believe me, I knew quite well how much you hated it. I was even part of the conversation for awhile, but when I realized how much we diverged on our opinions and how much I knew you would never change your mind about it, I didn't want to comment anymore.
I do love and appreciate your opinions and comments and reviews but surely we must have different life experiences (I seem to always be in the minority on any and everything!)
But are you sure you're not a Scorpio?? Heh.

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@leetennant One last (probably not) comment: I do agree most of the relationships in the HIStory series are problematic for various reasons.
Have you seen the j-drama "The Novelist" aka "The Pornographer"? As I said on another post it's one of my favorites. But you have to watch til the end to appreciate it. It helps to watch the companion piece Mood Indigo, even though I thought it quite boring, but it explains things further. Overall I thought it was a good character study.

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Anyway, like I said yesterday if you and I agreed too much I'd question the Universe I was in. 😂

But I definitely watched every episode of MODC, just so I could blog and write about the whole thing. I hated every part of it, just as much as - maybe even more than? - Well Intended Love.

I don't usually like J-dramas but I have seen the Pornographer. However, the version I saw had terrible terrible subs so maybe I should try to watch it if it has better subs now. I can say that even with bad subs, I don't think it's my sort of thing. The Universe continues to make sense. 😉

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@leetennant You've no idea how much I always look forward to your replies and comments, you judgmental person, you!

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Tell Me What You Saw: 7.9 More case-of-the-week goodness. Well, relative goodness. Its cases-of-the-week are not as good as Mystery Queen 1 or even Voice 1, but still much better than certain sequels.

The Cursed: 8.0 Easily obtains photos of certain deserving public figures... struggles to find correct Chinese characters for names of non-Chinese persons... no idea how to obtain personal items. And should the characters be traditional or simplified?

Nobody Knows: 7.8 Kim Sae-ron is back in high school after her grown-up role in Leverage?

Hi Bye Mama: 8.5

The Game: Towards Zero: OMG! They did it!? In a kdrama!!!? So even if the FL dies, there won't be an angry virgin ghost. Thank goodness!

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Re TMWYS - note that I mentioned both MQ & Voice, and Voice had 2 sequels, so of course I'm referring to the Voice sequels, and nothing I wrote implies that the Sequel That Must Not Be Named ever even existed :)

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Better to drop the numbering for Mystery Q. Because there is no reason to use numbers.... right?!!! 😀

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Exactly!

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Re Cursed - for those who aren't watching, the good shaman can curse you to an agonizing death if she has a photo, your name in Chinese characters, and a personal item. Don't ask what the bad shamans can do. (Not because it's too horrible, because I don't really know yet how nasty they can get).

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Hmm, I'm not caught up yet with The Game so I'm not sure what you're talking about! However, I think the ending will be that they're together til old age and she only dies when she's quite old. That's why he goes to their special beach and dies. That's my ending anyway.

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@linda-palapala,
I like your ending. Writer-nim please take note!

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Thanks @lordcobol for your THE GAME: TOWARDS ZERO comment and my Saturday laugh-out-loud moment. Yes and the lights I am sure were on or at least the island scene was illuminated. I forgot already but it was kind of sweet.
O/T. One of the kdrama peculiarities that intrigues me is that almost everyone sleeps in bed with the lights on.

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I'm lazy and don't want to watch every second of every episode to see the "they did it" scene - which episode is it in??

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Day 13, 2nd half. AKA ep 26.

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Ah @linda-palapala, you made me into a private detective. I went back found the episode and minutes etc. My report:
1. Episode 26. Begins at 5:55 and end at 16:32. The actual screen time of Tae-pyeong and Joon-yeong together is probably 2-3 minutes with cuts to other plot lines;
2. Lol. “They don’t do anything” in the sense of what I think you mean. As I said it is all rather sweet;
3. On another thread there is a controversy about the age gap between leads in an upcoming drama so I am pleased to report that in TG: TZ the age difference between the ML and FL is one year with he being the younger; and
4. If I really can go o/t. I am enjoying TG: TZ. I get a kick out of the maknae police officer being named Bong-soo and all I can say it that
Joon-yeong, Tae-pyeong, Bong-soo and all the rest better be walking around on both feet at the end of this show.

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Also continuing o/t. I recall a stir up when LAWLESS LAWYER aired in 2018. Great drama. There is an 8 year age gap between leads Lee Joon-gi and Seo Ye-Ji with she being younger.
From what I remember what caused the stir up was that the two leads spent the night together (so to speak) in episode 6 iirc. Some folks thought was rushed and too soon.
In TG: TZ it happened in episode 26 (old 13).

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I just watched it. I don't even think it counts - we didn't even get to see a kiss, just part of his upper shirtless torso. Even c-dramas will go further and that's saying a lot. Guess I'll get my fix with j-dramas and t-dramas!

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Re Lawless Lawyer, I was very disappointed in that drama. Felt there was never any real danger, he got out of danger too easily. And that's no fun!
Re the age difference, that never bothers me, either way. I remember people complaining it was too rushed. Well, maybe from a female's pov, but imo males are always in a rush!

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Hyena is my definite crack drama at the moment. Haven’t seen such a sizzling chemistry between the leads in a long time. I can watch them bicker all day and I would still be smiling on my own. 😘

Itaewon Class - Not much development after the arrest of Geun Woo. I’ve been filling my time listening to the OSTs on loops, especially the songs by Kim Feel, Gaho and Ha HyunWoo. Lovely.

Not Korean - Locke and Key. I binge-watched this in 2 days. It was so good! I was scared, yet I can’t stop watching. I want to stop watching, but I can’t cause I want to know how it ends. Magical, yet evil, and in the middle of it is the bond between the family members. For everyone with access to it, do watch it. You won’t be disappointed.

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Similar to missvictrix, I tried Item as well, only to feast on Joo Ji Hoon and I could not make it past the 15 minute mark. Dropped.
Just gonna rewatch Hyena will waiting for new Hyena episodes.

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I tried Item when it aired and I think I only watched three episodes before I dropped. It didn't make any sense (and I'm used to watching nonsense).

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Itaewon Class - I'm enjoying @egads turn as the loan shark with a heart of coal.

I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day and Hi Bye, Mama - Behind and may drop Hi Bye.

No Second Chances - A reminder of why I avoid weekenders and dramas over 16 episodes.

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I'm so far behind on this that I don't really even know what you're talking about, but I'm glad you're enjoying it.

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I think you're about to break out of iceberg mode. It's a small side story so far, but you're tough as nails and slightly demanding. No earrings that I've noticed so I'll try to pay more attention to your ears when I get back to ep. 11.

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I think I know the character you mean, although as of episode 8 she's only had one small appearance.

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She's becoming slightly more important as a side story.

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I really wish they weren’t pushing romantic pairings in this show since none of the potential couplings are healthy. I’m rooting for everyone to just stay friends, but I fully expect to be disappointed.

Itaewon Class would benefit from a Reply 1994. Just drop a random Jung Yu-mi into Itaewon for Park Sae-ro-yi. The two of them were adorable together on Youn's Kitchen Season 2 where Park Seo-joon was husband material. But Show is going to disappoint me and force Sae-ro-yi to settle for less than he deserves.

I’ve found Chairman Jang a pretty stock villain, personally

Chairman Jang is a cartoon villain, I can't take him seriously. That's why I've always hated Jang Geun-won and his smug-ass face more.

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I'll find you on a beautiful day. This is the show I'm enjoying the most. Blame it on SKJ and on its sweet and slow path.
I want to say that I don't think EunSeob is a lonely person. He's surrounded by loving friends and family, but also enjoys being alone. It doesn't mean he's lonely. I don't think he is.

No Second Chances. I hope WooJae and HaeRi live unhappily ever after. I can't believe he's taking her back and becoming the most stupid man ever. They deserve each other. And apart from the beautiful pink cloak Ye Ji Won was wearing, I'm only relieved that there are two episodes left and it will be over and I will never watch a weekender again. Please, let our trio reunite and be happy.

Hi Bye Mama. I love this show and I want to know how it evolves. I suppose YuRi's mission will be to help other ghosts as well as help deal their family with their loss (they all need her help son they can all be a family again even without her). I don't foresee YuRi staying alive with her family. I just don't.

I'm some episodes behind Tell me what you saw and I want to see Nobody knows. I guess that considering next week not all shows are airing, I will be able to catch up.

Someday or one day. Oh, my poor heart. I'm on half of episode 10. I don't seem to find the courage to go on, because I know what's going to happen (at least I think I know) and I know I'll be devastated. But also I want to know. But I don't want to know... I'm sure you all know the feeling...

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I am having a difficult time moving on from Someday or One Day. I thought this show was going to kind of just meander off into some cliche ending after a great first -half. I was WRONG.The last-third of episode 12 through to the conclusion at the end of ep. 13 was very .... emotional. Quite a tour de force by Alice. Be sure to watch the brief bonus ending after you finish the show.

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It’s already on Viki, that was the first thing I checked when I began.

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Someday or One Day remains the best show of 2020 and I don't see it being topped any time soon unless Korea really picks up its game.

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I'm willing to watch another weekender, maybe Father is Strange many months from now, once I recover. It has to be one the people rave about after it's finished though. I still think poor Woo Jae deserves better, he just doesn't know it. And why can't the chaebols just stay in jail for a happily ever after ending?

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That would be perfect, but please add Wang Sang and HaeRi to the jail and I'll be happy.
You know, I'm really mad about WooJae. Last week when I was watching, I was like "NOOOOOOOO WAY". I decided he should be as unhappy for the rest of his life as HaeRi's annoyance (which is enormous).

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BEAUTIFUL LOVE, WONDERFUL LIFE: I have come to the conclusion that none of the couples really deserve to be together.
HI BYE MAMA (ep 3-4): I am getting a light CHOCOLATE vibe as the series progresses. It is more about getting the living back to living after Yuri's passing. I think Yuri will be getting her husband and second wife back together for the benefit of her child.
HIT THE TOP: I am at the point of the creepy reveal of the father-son-friend love triangle. In time traveling rules, is the father still 24?
In addition to variety shows, I have stumbled across more k-celebrity youtube channels: Ha Ji Won and Han Ye Seul are interesting slice of life content.

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Didn't watch much this week (although I guess five eps is a lot)
1. Itaewon Class: Ep 10. I had a feeling Sae Ro Yi was right but wow couldn't help but feel a bit bad for Geun Won.
2. When the weather is fine: Ep 3. There's not a lot happening in the drama but I like it and don't mind the slowness. I am curious about what's up with Eun Seob.
3. Hyena: Ep 3- 4. Poor Hee Jae, his victory is short lived. And now she has joined the firm. Things are still fun though I get irritated at them at times.
4. Hi, bye Mama: Ep 3. This episode had some hilarious moments. Feel a bit bad for Min Jung.

Normally I would have a lot more to say but this week had been tiring and I didn't do much watching and won't for quite some weeks what with my exams even nearer.

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Good luck on your exams.
For as much as I first enjoyed it I've become burnt out on IC.

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I am a bit tired of it too actually.

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I finished up "Money Game," and I was so glad Heo Jae ended up right where he belonged. I also see that Shim Eun Kyung won Best Actress at the Japanese Academy Awards. She did an excellent job in MG. I'm still working on "Person Who Gives Happiness," long but so good. I LOVE Kdramas where one of the main leads will NOT give up on the person they love, those type of characters are my very favorite.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2020/03/689_285763.html

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Since I'm on semi-hiatus, the only thing I'm watching is Itaewon Class and I'm four episodes behind.... is what I came here to type. But looking over the other comments, I remember I am also watching Never Twice. I had forgotten, which says a lot about how that show is unfolding. Weekenders got to weekender I guess. I'm almost there though and I can fast forward all the plotlines I don't care about - which has moved from 80% to 95% of the show.

I dropped Forest but the recaps give me life and also @yyishere messages me to complain about it whenever she's watching so I feel like I'm still watching it a bit. It's all about the Clams, my friend. The Dropbears are a red herring.

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Never Twice is lately such a disappointment... 😞
I sooo miss the good old contract relationship days....

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So Itaewon Clalss continues to be a quite fascinating discussion of modern Korea - at least to episode 8. I feel like this show is asking What (or Who) Korea is and is throwing around the aspects of modern Kculture to discuss how they mix.

From Jang's old-school feudal Joseon empire to Yi-Seo psychopathic modern hypercapitalism, the pressures of race from a growing immigrant population and the treatment of other groups like LGBTQI. Throw into that mix the traditional working class who need to compromise with the powerful to survive and those who challenge power with new ways of doing this - the humanist, cooperative social democracy of PSRY.

The show is also doing a great job of talking about parenting from both an individual and social perspective. I'm not sure how I feel about its idea of Society as Parent as represented through PSRY. It sounds a bit paternalistic. And yet all the characters in his little bar are there because they need parenting. And so maybe there's something to be said for it.

Itaewon Class is an extremely interesting and well-written show and PSJ is KILLING it. But I don't necessarily enjoy it in a way whereby I'm hanging out for it each week.

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I think PSY is as much a product of capitalism as Jang, to be honest I find his obsession of building an empire even bigger than the villain's, disturbing. If it was just about revenge he wouldn't need it. Instead of obviously telling us that a good boss should think of people first and profits later, I wish the drama would question this need of money and status. I don't like the paternalistic aspect, especially when it's with SooAh. I like this drama only because of YiSeo and the social comments but the materialism in it bothers me more than in the romcoms with Candys and their chaebols.

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It's true, there is no alternative to materialism or empire building built into the text.

But in this - as in a lot of social and political commentary from Korea - I think it's culturally restrained by Confucianism even when it thinks it isn't. The idea of a benign patriarch who chooses to obey the law because of his goodness, rather than a system where leaders are forced to obey the law because of structural constraints, remains deeply embedded. Chaebol stories are not about the need for structural reform to redistribute wealth or to stop corruption - it's about the powerful being punished for breaking their Confucian contract. The fact they made the face of hyper-capitalism young and female is as intentional I suspect as them making the face of benign dictatorship (PSRY) older and male.

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What I'm watching is to catch up on Itaewon Class and When the Weather is Nice.
IC .....I dont know. I either got burnt out from the drama or the comment section.
When the Weather is Nice I really enjoyed the first ep I just needed to mentally be in a place to sink into this lovely slower paced world.

Never Twice: Oh Woo Jae. You dope.

After two bouts of not feeling well and some stress I was opting for some light watches with the help of some FF.
All I Want For Love is You lots of fast forward, which is maybe why I never got behind the heroine joining the hero in medical school. Maybe I missed some crucial revelation that she really wants to do this instead of teaching? Even she said that she will be nothing more than an average doctor. Just think of the patients. But the pig was super cute.

Love Last Forever: Another one with the heroine choosing to become a nurse after falling for a doctor, lol. But this somehow works better for me. Maybe because I can see how she actually likes the job and is finding her own fulfillment in it and helping the patients. Less FF use, but not for everyone as it is an age gap and work place romance with a senior.

A Little Thing Called First Love: it was sweet. I do like that the makeover happened over years and naturally without the heroine or hero being invested in it.

This is Not a Business Expense: it is about the fiscal department. Basically accounting I guess? On paper not my thing yet it is working for me.

2gether: I'm not sure what I think about this but I'm watching it.

Has anyone tried You are My Destiny the new Japanese adaptation of Fated to Love You? It was my first Kdrama so tempted.

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2gether is not impressing me. The male lead is annoying and not a very nice person. I'm going to wait till it finishes and then binge it. Have you tried WhyRU?

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He is annoying and though Green is overstepping some boundaries, in a big way, I find I like him and sympathize a bit.

Yes with Why R U, but was only interested in Fight/Tutor. The one kid thinking he was in his sister's story was odd and annoying. Also, what is it with these shows and the sisters being obsessed with their brothers' love lives? As a sister this completely grosses me out to basically write fanfic about him.

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The fujoshi sister writing fan fiction about her brother's love life?
Is SO WEIRD, right? And creepy. Who behaves like that!
Thailand is grinding out some awful generic BL at the moment.

But, for me, WhyRU? has an element of parody to it whereby it comes off like a giant BL pastiche. Like her brother has actually been cursed into his sister's novel and his life is suddenly a bad BL. Unfortunately that whole element gets ditched pretty quickly and it just becomes a standard BL. Fight/Tutor is actually quite a good storyline, although casting an actor like Saint helps.

Honestly, neither of them are impressing me.

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The K-drama FATED TO LOVE YOU was itself a re-make of a great T-drama of the same name. Both are very good, I have a slight preference for the K-drama version which smoothed over some of the rough edges of the T-drama version. Given that the Japanese have not one but 2 versions to look at it is hard to see how they could mess this up while bringing their own unique perspective to what is a great story.

One of the things which I think we all loved about this story is the fabulous Second Male Lead. He is probably the most perfect second lead ever. One of the most unusual things about portrayal of the second lead is that he is (by adoption) an American- who actually thinks and acts like an American. Some of the advice he gives the Female Lead could have come from the lips of Oprah Winfrey. I also like how his story ends: The Second Lead does not get the girls, but he does get what he desired far more than the girl, the thing that he wanted most in all the world. I will have to check this J-drama out.

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That is an interesting point about the second lead. I know that he was popular but that may be why he didnt make as much of an impression on me coming from American television. I mean I had never seen a main character like Gun before and maybe since, lol. He was fascinating to me. Also, I loved Jang Nara's Mi young. She brought such warmthto that character.

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I have been a fan of Jang Na-ra ever since I saw her in FATED TO LOVE YOU. As for the character of Gun- I am still trying to get Jang Hyuk's laugh out of my head. He is a great actor.

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I forgot to note that there is a Thai version of FATED TO LOVE YOU which, like the J-drama, is titles YOU ARE MY DESTINY. I have not seen it.

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When STOVE LEAGUE ended my wife and I were at a loss for a new favorite show. The wait is over: I’LL FIND YOU ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY is our very clear current favorite. Miss Victrix could not have said it better than when she described the great cinematography and excellent direction in this show. There is indeed more forest in this show than in FOREST- and now I know why: FOREST is missing the sounds of the forest- it is almost always silent, except for the sound of the river, and that is a huge mistake. In I’LL FIND YOU ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY we hear the forest and the mountain- the sound of the wind in the trees and the sound of the trees creaking, the cries of the crows, the owls and hawks. If you have ever been out in a forest in the wintertime, and I have, this is exactly what a winter forest sounds like. Add to that the great screenwriting (the novel also has to have been good- I wonder if it is available in English translation- or is this yet another reason to crack down on learning Korean?). The actors are doing justice to that writing – Park Min-young is wonderful in a character that is so different from Secretary Kim. But really all of the characters are rising to the challenge- even the minor ones. The show starts slow- but in fact it should start that way, the pacing of this story is marvelous. In some ways this drama reminds me of aspects of YONG-JIU GROCERY STORE- including the rural community and a female lead who was ostracized when she was young and struggles with the pain and trauma of her past as well as the tightness of the writing. It also reminds me also of the insight-filled writing of BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST LIFE. But make no mistake- this is its own story and it is quite a story.

I have only one complaint about I’LL FIND YOU ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY: It looks like we will have to wait another week before we see the next episode. As an old sailor I have some truly appropriate, but alas unprintable, language which applies to such a situation.

We will continue watching FOREST now that Viki finally has the subtitles done. I have given up on the romance between the male and female leads, now being convinced that our real OTP is Choi-chang a brave rescue team member/firefighter and Oh Bo-mi, the female forest ranger. That ‘secondary romance’ is far more natural and has far more real chemistry than our Official OTP. This is the first drama for No Gwang-Sik, who plays Choi-chang and, from what I can see, he has a bright future ahead of him.

We continue to watch the T-drama comedy BETWEEN (Viki’s title) aka THE SANDWICH GIRL. It is a good time-filler, fairly well written but also predictable. It is a pleasant watch.

We are also watching the T-drama rom-com THE WONDER WOMAN. So far it is good but subtitling is slow on Viki for this one.

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