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Open Thread #711

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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3815k - less the better.

CRICKET - yeah yeah yeah - Test cricket season's start a test that is being affected by rain. Heh. This is fun of test cricket - whether plays such an important role.

Good to get fully drenched in rain to get some respite from this heat. Summer surely isn't much fun without good downpour. At the same time no cricket spoils the mood. Hard choices.

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So normally, after 2 weeks sleeping in my living room and living in my kitchen, I will be able to rearrange my bedroom! After a water leak from the ceiling, the management had accepted to redo the 4 walls, the ceiling and the wood floring even if only one wall and a part of the ceiling were really damaged.

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Wasn't that unique experience. I have intentionally done that a few times. crazy but effective.

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You don't like your bedroom?

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I was talking about being cramped in small space for long period of time.

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Has anyone watched this Japanese drama - Oshin? In the late 80s, my parents were hooked to it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57005333

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I watched it when I was a child. The show was dubbed and broadcasted in my home country in the 90s and was very popular at the time. Even now, I can still recall some scenes in it.

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Same here in my country! My mom had watched it for the first time as a teenager. It aired several times because it became so popular and people still talk about this show so dearly.

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I watched that as a young teen when it aired in Indonesia (where we lived at the time)! My friends and I were obsessed with Oshin, and it was appointment tv for us.

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I'm from Japan and watched Oshin when I was a kid.
I think it's the highest rating TV show ever in Japan.
It was a really great show (and long)... Everybody loved it especially when Oshin was a little girl.
When she grew up, I sort of lost interest (I watched everything though) but I still recall the scenes from the first through ep. 30? 40? when Oshin was a little girl working at Kaga-ya and there was a spoiled kid, etc..

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Yes, I recently watched it. It’s a wonderful series, especially her younger years. I highly recommend it.

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Where did you watch it?

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Sorry for the late reply. Dailymotion has it.

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My family and friends and I loved that show. Quite a while later, when we got to see Ninagawa's Macbeth in the theatre, we were still referring to Tanaka Yuko as Oshin. (And Ichimura Masachika as Mewtwo!)

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Ooh it was super popular in my country when it was aired way back in the 90s. Kids born after 2000 may not know the drama but everyone uses the word “oshin” synonymously with housemaid. It just shows how culturally impactful the show is in my country.

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Another week, another major player is talking about spending more in k-drama. But there is a catch.

SEOUL, May 31 (Yonhap) CJ ENM, an entertainment giant, said Monday it will invest more than 5 trillion won (US$4.48 billion) in content creation over the next five years to become a global content creator.

"We will become a comprehensive entertainment company through diversifying content creating systems and meeting consumers' demands on a real-time basis," CJ ENM CEO Kang Ho-sung said in a press conference. "And we will move on to the world stage and compete with global platform and media powerhouses."

CJ ENM had increased profits during last year's pandemic shutdowns and interruptions, mostly due to cost cutting. The company is rushing ahead as a vertically integrated company as it can produce and distribute content on its own media platforms. It is also investing in a US studio to expand its market reach.

Their newest business is TVING, its streaming platform. Song Ji Hyo's new drama, The Witch's Restaurant" is going to be shown on TVING. Which begs the question, does that mean international fans will have a lesser chance to see it (with English subs?)

Steaming platforms have weakened cable TV because they are a way for viewers to go a la carte and only pay for channels they want instead of expensive cable bundles. I would expect a content producer like CJ ENM to license their shows to other platforms or networks to enhance revenue, but there may be a delay if their own channel has an exclusive time period.

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I'm sure they will be licensed quickly. CJ ENM talked about the success of their recent dramas internationally so they want to go after that audience. Another OTT streaming platform, Kakao TV, has licensed their dramas without any exclusive time period.

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I really hope so. This is mirroring the American market actually. Even with Netflix hanging in the background like a behemoth, every entertainment studio wants its own streaming service. This puts the audience in a ridiculous situation. Should I subscribe to Netflix, Prime, HBO, Paramount+, Disney+, etc., if I like an offering from each of them? So far, Korean streamers has been open about "co-streaming", e.g. Netflix+Kakao or VIKI+Kokowa. But will it last?

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Hello Beanies!

Happy Friday. Hope everyone is well.

It’s a gorgeous day here, and there are now flowers blooming in my backyard, so I feel like things are definitely looking up (even if life remains something of a roller coaster, lol).

I’m so behind on all my k-drama now! Just finished My Unfamilar Family, which I found slightly underwhelming and incredibly exhausting at the same time.

I did binge-watch the final season of Kim’s Convenience” yesterday, and I’m sad that the journey is over. There were allegedly all sorts of off-screen issues and it was probably time for the producers and cast to move on, but I will miss this show so so much.

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Sorry to hear you found MUF underwhelming and exhausting, @hcatfan! That’s no fun!☹️ (I loved it, but I love family dramas and having been married for over a decade now - not that long compared to many but long enough to be more cynical and grizzled than some! - I found the whole premise of me or my partner becoming our besotted younger selves again quite interesting!! It was like a time-bender, without a supernatural element.)

I remember that we connected over Kim’s Convenience! I was gutted to read about the behind-the-scenes issues, so I don’t know whether to watch the final season. Would it just feel like too many loose ends? It’s left me wishing and hoping for more stories about intergenerational immigrant or mixed culture families.

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My dearest Beanies

It has been a while since I last commented, because I am struggling with my mental health.

Things quickly went downhill at work early May. I had fulltime call center duty even though I felt that I did not understand my job well enough yet to consult people through telephone. So phone calls took too long, callers got angry at me and on top of that my boss started angrily messaging me in the midst of those calls that I had to shorten them and do better. Not even a week later I get an email out of the blue that I am receiving my next evaluation that afternoon…. A very bad one of course.

It turns out that when my boss and colleagues said that they respected my choice and that it was fine when I decided not to attend an April team party to avoid passing covid to my loved ones, or decided not to take on extra telephone shifts in April to get the hang of it because I was swamped with work already, they were lying. I thought I had found a nice team of colleagues, but instead of talking to me about any missteps I did they talked behind my back to the boss, and now I am ruining the team spirit and need to work on my attitude or I will fail my internship. Other interns are better at the job and do not wallow in self pity as much as I do, apparently.😢

I admit that there is some truth in there. I have been voicing my difficulties out loud and made some mistakes that made it very obvious that I indeed am not cut out for that job and do not fit into that work culture, judging by how strongly my boss reacts to everything I do and don’t at my workplace. However, no matter how often I apologize or try to defend myself, I remain the bad guy, so they are just looking for anything to kick me out it seems. It saddens me how there is zero empathy for my negative feelings.😧

As of mid-May I am on sick leave, because heart palpitations, nausea, panic attacks, crying fits, insomnia, loss of appetite and weight loss among other things on a nearly daily base caused a nervous breakdown. Unfortunately my job is not the cause, but the last straw. I have been nagging here every week the last five years about my unemployment and dismissal from previous workplaces, but the alarm did not go off in my head then. Neither did it go off when I dealt with similar symptoms and obstacles during any period in my education trying desperately to reach university graduation.

A lot of collected puzzle pieces throughout the years are finally fitting together and might point towards an undiagnosed mild form of autism. It might explain why I am too slow and cannot perform well under pressure and stress in the normal job places among other things. Fortunately my doctor and parents are on my side, which made it easier for me to finally accept that I need professional help to get the right treatment and to find the right job in the right place afterwards.

Sick leave is not helping much, to be honest. I am still experiencing the symptoms and I cannot find any...

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Sick leave is not helping much, to be honest. I am still experiencing the symptoms and I cannot find any rest. My boss messaged something harmless in our work team WhatsApp, I saw her name and got a panic attack that forced me to remove all work-related groups on WhatsApp to calm down again. A few days later my boss checks in with me and interrogates me about leaving the WhatsApp group and the bad impression it left on her and the team and of course I got another panic attack. 😭 I was barely gone for a week when she already sent for the medical check-up. I am aware that she is just a person, but the awakened demon in my head makes sure I fear her and any mention of my workplace 24/7.😭

The medical check-up was a blessing in disguise, though. That doctor saw me trembling all over, promptly added anxiety to the list and recommended a good psychiatrist nearby. I have to wait until early July for my first appointment, but it beats waiting until next year to get tested on autism in a hospital, because waiting lists.😧 Those tests might not even be necessary, because anxiety is nailing everything at the moment.😭

I would love nothing more than to simply quit my job and make both parties happy, but everybody else advises me to keep extending my sick leave and get treated in the meantime, so that my employer or my health insurance company keeps paying me. Unfortunately extending my sick leave also means extending my internship, until they decide or are legally allowed to end things, preferably for medical reasons. So now I remain involved with my biggest fear for who knows how long, because otherwise I will have to resort to my savings for the umpteenth time. 😭😭😭

I will keep lurking on DB and Discord, but I do not know if I will be really active. I love our community and reading you and your Kdrama musings so much, but my mental state swings crazily between something that resembles okay or either lump of misery bad and I have no idea when it will all end.😢

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hang in there, take care of yourself and please keep lurking here among your DB family of beanies! don't bottle it all up inside, you can vent safely here...

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Thank you for the important reminder!❤️

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I just want to add about work related WhatsApp group. My ahem 'job' requires me to monitor those groups. It will seem unprofessional to just leave them. I do think those groups adding pressure to already stressful job. And for people who strictly draw line between private life and work life, me included, it is horror. So what I do for those group is, turning off the notification for those group. I check them when I need to check them.
When bad situation happens to me, my magic spells is everything has an end. Nothing is last forever. When happy things end, let them go. When bad things happen, hang in there. It ends.

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I understand that it can be perceived as unprofessional, but turning off notifications in those informal work groups sadly did not help at all for my mental health. It is another good example of why both the company and I would be better off if we parted ways. Thank you for the epiphany!🙂

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May you heal soon.💖

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Thank you!💖

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Turtie, you are the most important priority here, and I am so glad you have a doctor and parents who are supporting you and on your side. I'm so sorry you are going through this. I hope you will continue to get the support, care and kindness you deserve. Even if you aren't commenting or active, I'm glad you are still spending time here with us - because you are one of us! I wish you all the very best.

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Thank you for the support and the inclusion! It is nice to interact with people outside work (=kind people) again!❤️

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Turtle—so glad you are taking care of yourself here. So many people wouldn’t be strong enough to vocalize the things you did to your boss and coworkers and just continue to work or say “yes” to everything. Your health is the most important. I just read the hardships that Naomi Osaka (tennis star) went through with the French open and your story reminds me of this. Now, the media and the tennis associations are taking notice after she withdrew from the Open. She was 2nd in the world. Fighting!

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Thank you for telling me about her! I felt horrible for being a nuisance to my workplace, but just like Naomi Osaka I will have to own up to my mistakes AND prioritize my mental health! It is nice to have another medic on my side!❤️

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I'm really impressed with the steps you have taken to take of yourself. We'll be here and on Discord when you're ready.

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Thank you Egads!❤️

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@turtuallysarcastically I am so sorry that you are going through this. Please take the time that you need to feel healthy physically and mentally ♥

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Thank you Sirena! Your warm presence certainly helps!❤️

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Oh dear @turtuallysarcastic - I am so very sorry to read this and agree with everyone else. You must take care of yourself first and I'm so glad that you can take a leave so your benefits will take care of it.
Years ago I had a almost similar situation in a very toxic workplace. When I couldn't stop crying I took two days off from work. And when I came back in I was walked into the HR office and promptly fired. I was shocked, but by the time I got halfway home I was so relieved and happy to be out of there. It lead to a much better job for me.
Still, getting fired is no fun - but I took that experience and determined to never get in that situation.
It sounds like this has become an albeit very painful learning experience - but know this truth. In time it will pass and you will be able to look back on what you learned from all this crap.
In the meantime keep taking care of yourself and know like we all say here - that you can vent all you want to us who all love you for yourself.
sending you big hugs and lots of beenthere-donethat strength!

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Thank you for sharing your painful experience with me. I wish it had not happened to you, but hearing at work that you are the only one causing trouble makes one doubt oneself.❤️

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writing something for you on my wall...

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btw - I just sent you a DM on Discord...

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I’m really sorry to hear you’re going through this - but you will get there! It’s really good you’ve recognised the situation and are taking steps to do what’s good for you.

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Thank you for your support!❤️

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I am so sorry you are going through all this. I am glad that you are working towards getting the help you need. I hope things work out for you

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Thank you for your kind words!❤️

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Take the time and do what you need to do @turtuallysarcastic
We'll be here whenever you need us
Fighting!

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Thank you LT!❤️

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Hi, just wanted to tell you that, you seeking help is a great first step. Please don't be disheartened by this situation, mental health is important and do not let anyone else make you doubt yourself. Remember that you understand yourself best. Please do not compare yourself with the other interns, everyone is different and each one of us thrive in different environments. I had once worked in a place that made me unhappy and I dreaded going to work everyday. My colleagues, however were able to cope with the environment. I left and I have never been happier. Do take of yourself.

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Thank you for your wise words!❤️

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I wish you'd see if there is a neuropsychologist that you could see for a full evaluation. A good one will put you through hours of tests (like reading and listening comprehension), help evaluate how you function, recognize difficulties you have in performing or completing tasks, and recommend things that might aid you in functioning in a work (or school) environment. A good one is worth their weight in gold. If you're having trouble functioning at work that can lead to increased fear and anxiety. Whatever happens, we're here rooting for you.

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Thank you!❤️ I am meeting with a psychiatrist next month who will determine what kind of therapy and/or tests I need, so I will have to wait and see. I tried to start the testing process through a hospital, but the waiting lists are ridiculously long.

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Oh turtie! My fellow day6 fan from this side of the world.

Honestly, youre doing a good job standing up for yourself and taking care of your own mental health and looking for help. Mental health issues are often not understood, especially in a toxic work environment, but I hope you dont take these peoples attitudes to heart and manage to focus on yourself and your own wellbeing for now. Your health must always be a priority!

Im sorry your work experience has been so hard so far and im sorry youve had to withstand so many obstacles. It all sounds extremely exhausting!

If you ever need a friendly not-quite-stranger on the internet to talk to, I am but a discord DM away.

Take care of yourself!!

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Some work places really are big wasp nests in disguise and I somehow always end up there...until recently I thought I only had myself to blame for my employment misfortunes. Thank you for the reminder!❤️

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I'm also sorry this is happening to you. I'm glad you're taking steps to help feel better. Hope to see you here again soon.

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Thank you, I hope to be active again soon as well!❤️

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Oh no. This is a disappointing development work-wise. But your mental health is so important! Take care of yourself, and if you need to vent or just lean on others, this place and your DB friends are here for you. Hugs.

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Thank you for your support and the hugs!❤️

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Hey Turtie! Sending good wishes and prayers your way. Anxiety due to work can feel terrible and I hope when you look back at all this after some time you realize that everything happened for the best.

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Thank you for looking out for me, Wapz!❤️ Patience is a virtue indeed!

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Nah, National Tax Authorities, another level of hell (no, I do not understand or like taxes more than you do), but it all reads very familiar somehow! Thank you for the chuckles!

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Oh turtie, I’m so sorry to hear what a hard time you’re having. Wonderful news to look forward to that you have a psych referral. Anxiety sucks and meds and therapy have helped me a lot, I will hope the same for you.

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Thank you for sharing that tidbit, it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one experiencing this.❤️

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Not at all, and it’s been so much worse during Covid and, in the US, with politics. It feels like everyone I know is on their last nerve, even the non-anxious people.

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Take care and have a good rest !
I hope you will find a job where you will fit in. For example, my friend who doesn't socialize well with people took years to find a suitable job, she now works at a small library and works well with like-minded colleagues. I, myself walked away from a stressful job and found a happier workplace.
Everything will fall in place eventually, important thing is to keep trying and don't give up.

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You nailed it, thank you for reminding me!❤️

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So sorry that you have been going through something this cruel. I may not be suffering from the exact same degree of mental harassment at workplace, but to some extent, yes. It is very difficult to read people. They tell you one thing and the very next moment they speak completely different words. You just can't take anyone at face value.
My workplace has favouritism, uneven pay, heavy work. And the bloody WhatsApp group that makes your number public to everyone in the city. Anybody can call at anytime, we teach from home so, no leave. Last year too no holidays on festivals. Last year 3 months salary is still not paid.
So it actually is like that. Getting a good boss is rarity.
Don't put pressure on yourself. Please prioritize yourself. You are important for everyone here and for your family you are Irreplaceable.
If you can, work through it coz it's an internship. But not over your health. If you can't, you can always find something better.
I'll be leaving this job, staying home if I am not given this year's 2 months salary. My seniors are not speaking up but I have decided that I don't want to go through it this year too.

It is fine. You are fine too. You will definitely overcome this.

P. S- sorry if I made you uncomfortable or anyone else. Its been a really long time, probably years.
Take care

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You do not make me uncomfortable, quite the opposite, your story reminds me that I am not the only one with these struggles. I hope things will work out for you soon as well!❤️

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Thank you for bringing me back to this site. I had to go through a long process coz I forgot my password and lost my phone!.
Anyways, I am relieved to know that you understand that you are not the only one suffering here. Feel free to contact me anytime. Sometimes an unknown person gets you better. 😊😊
Take care

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I was watching Jdrama Happy Marriage and it left me feeling so suffocated. Dropped it mid way. Workplace harrasment, extremely selfish father and contract marriage all treated in a light hearted manner just left me deeply uncomfortable.
Was watching Jdrama 'I don't love you yet' ( In time with you). I did not want to feel too much angst so after 4 episodes watched the last epiaode to see a happy ending.
Watching 'Stove league' - It makes me want to work hard and be smart too. So started studying today onwards. I like these kinda of dramas which make me want to feel smart and work hard too.
A character in it is differently abled and it being a plot for angst to our Hero was the only thing I wished had not happened.
Watched a bit of 'The Imperial Coroner'- 5 episodes I guess. The story is good so far but I wish as an audience I too could guess into who did what with the clues presented.
There should be a youtube compilation of Hwang Shi Mok always leaving his food before first bite to attend his work duties. They even repeated it in season 2. Lol

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MISAENG appreciation post!

It was during Misaeng aired back in 2014 that I started to work for my current organisation, a career change from banking industry.
Eventhough I wasn’t inexperienced worker, I’ve loved how Misaeng depicted relatable characters, through its 4 newbies characters, and how the bosses (or supervisors) at work are ‘grey’ in the first impression (and through out) but daily interaction made us looking at them as ordinary people (and office workers) just like all of us. The show has become one of my most faves drama of all time, and I was so happy that it made it as The Best Drama for 2014 Dramabeans Year in Review (JB and GF write up for it was a delightful complimentary).

Last month I started rewatching Misaeng and bit worry that I won’t love it as much as I did, but boy how it still delivered. I watched Chief Oh and other salaryman and woman battled it up in their job, and feeling like I’ve recharged (regained?) my grit.
[“if you think office life is a battleground, then the real world is hell”]
[“those who endure, conquer”],

still I feel the built up for the ending was beautiful because it was realistic (no fairy tale built up ending for Chief Oh and Jang Geu Rae in One International), but it was fitting Chief Oh’s principles and Geu Rae’s journey in (work) life. *sob*
yeah, Misaeng, Thank You!

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I have been thinking of doing the same for a while, but I'm wary that it wouldn't like it the same or it will be a hard watch. Because when I watched it for the first time I was in college, now I am in the battleground. Seems good to hear that it is still enjoyable and excellent.

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Anyone who loves Misaeng is my friend forever. Since I recently retired I made a list of all the jobs I've had since babysitting in my teens. I stopped at eighteen jobs/careers, and have since remembered more. Keeping one's soul and sanity intact while conforming to ridiculous rules is the essence of this wonderful show. We all need somebody to lean on.

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Congratulations on your retirement.
It was late in 2019 that I first watched MISAENG and loved it.

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Hello!
Master in the House has taken an interesting turn in format to resemble Abnormal Summit with some of the same foreigners from that show. The discussion this past week was the international ramifications of covid from the perspective of the various countries represented there. Lucky from India filled in the panel and viewers with the grim news from his home. It looks like the format will continue at least for a while. I like it very much.
Kingdom the Legend ended this week with fabulous performances from iKon, The 👦 z, stray Kids, BTOB, ATeez, and SF9, all impressive efforts and stages. No spoiler on the final winner ...
Watching Racquet Boys, Youth of May, Doom, and Bossam. Waiting for Hospital Playlist 2, perhaps a quick rewatch of 1 as a kickoff!
Happy weekend Beanies! ❤️🦉

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