This week was more sensible financial week. Nothing much new around in news and space. Nothing much in fiction either.

standing on a street, start talking, making small speech, attracting others, not being seen as a lunatic is a tough job - it also requires quite courage - I always thought its tough and i'm gonna sweat a lot but i can do it, September's winds have started to blow and i'm no way near it. Well, as said few times before i'm not in as active participant but ready to financially support the medium aka the new blood. But, that young hot blood is nowhere so it will be years of beating from the boomers at top. Then the question pops up - why look everywhere around - why not step up - that's the reason - everyone is so busy, so distracted and so much in not so good position that we all just hope someone stands up, step up and we will rally around them. This is leading everyone nowhere and common man is turned into a sitting duck.

Truly i wish to come out of it and not be a duck but i do find it being so out of character for me to step up when playing safe is what i have done for whole my life.

I think i was the 1st one to came with one. My objective was way different and still is - And someone did created one later - post on fanwall and you will get one. Thankfully am not part of that tribe.

As for Kpop-kdrama discords groups - there are many but the best you can get is on SNS. There are few good Facebook groups and lot more are active on Twitter(Lists - mostly to trend their idol and keep tab on news)
If you want better - then join Kdrama subreddit.

Also lots have shifted to apps( mobile phone apps) for live-chat/watch aka group watch and for most probable reason the downloads - there are whatsapp groups,telegram groups(for downloads as torrents become risky).
LINE is very strong in asian market except korea and china(as expected)
There are wechat groups for Chinese media(download and all).

If you really want to engage with large part of audience then mobile apps are best. Discord have all the features of apps but its very much a different medium and have different set of audience.

Does anyone expect Asian dramas fan made videos on TWITCH? no.

As said earlier go for facebook or reddit - they will provide you better experience.

Great news @turtuallysarcastic!
Thanks for sharing that you are doing well if not better!!!

One day at a time! You got this!

Lots happening in c-ent. A popular, oft-repeated comments, "Afraid that when I wake up entertainment industry will be gone!"

Real/fake fans/haters are running wild under state media reports on regulating online fan behaviors and fan clubs. Maybe trying to start fan wars. Maybe trying to get certain celebs in trouble for not controlling their fans. Seems like those accounts are mostly "disposable". One gets suspended or closed down, another can be quickly opened/cheaply bought. Not much can be done with random online lunatics.

Yes, last week we discussed whether international streaming platform/producers will "westernize" K-drama stories. I think the consensus is probably influence the story lines in (an alleged) attempt to make it more understandable or relatable to western viewers. But that itself misses the point.

I am very much afraid that this is true. Kdramas can't help but be negatively impacted by Netflix entering the market.

I think Netflix gets too much blame tbh.

But Netflix's dramas are pretty good. They bring something else like Extracurricular, Kingdom, Move to Heaven, D.P. Love Alarm was disapoiting.

I don't think Nevertheless was a bad idea. The execution was bad but it could have been interesting. It's not like sex scenes became the norm in Kdrama.

I haven't seen Nevertheless, but didn't it in fact dilute the ambiguity and cynicism of the original Korean webtoon? So if K-drama has been getting darker and meaner, I don't think it's a matter of "western values". Rather, as in many other countries, cable TV gives writers, directors etc the chance to tackle themes that are off-limits on terrestrial TV. Moreover, I've seen some pretty cynical mainstream K-dramas as well, like The White Tower and Bittersweet Life (both, weirdly, from MBC).

Actually my experience of American TV has been quite uplifting. Whatever Joss Whedon is guilty of, no one can accuse Buffy the Vampire Slayer of putting the individual above everything else. More recently, the two detectives in Netflix's Unbelievable are completely committed to their respective families and their duty to protect and serve. I'm also very fond of The Americans, The Good Wife and The Good Fight, none of which neglects the wider social context.

If kdramas go western, I will only have a few Chinese dramas to watch because at least, due to the whatever politics that tv programs have to be for all kind of public, etc, they are all pretty decent.... 🙄
If I got tired from them, because they can be decent, but many are boring, then I will have nothing to watch.

Then I will stop watching anything at all, and I will use my time in me writing my own stories. Also not a bad idea, because at least I will be able to watch in my mind what I want to🙄🤔🙄🤔 😂😂😅😅😂😂😅😂
It will be a good way to expand my creativity.

Is it western values or censorship? There is definitely something to be said about Netflix not needing to make sure the broadcast is "15"

For every drama like Nevertheless there are millions of kdramas selling filial piety, lots of guilt, nice idealized female leads and troubled idealized male leads.

I think it’s probably with streaming platforms they can try a lot more things? The same kind of thing happened in Western media where shows that wouldn’t get made for broadcast television got made for streaming. At the end of the day it’s a product and if people don’t like it, it’ll show in the data and they won’t make more. The trend I don’t like is for multiple seasons. It’s one of the key things I really liked about korean dramas - that the story ends.

There's something about kdramas that I find so much more satisfying than the usual Western narrative irrespective of Netflix or whatever. It might be that the usual 16 episodes give more room for character development and for more shades to a character, as well. Not always so black and white. When I first started watching kdramas, they seemed like a Dickensian labyrinth of stories all intertwined. I also like the warmth. Overall in staging, colour, cinematography, they are beautifully creative and visually stunning. In contrast, dramas from the West now seem to be ugly and tired. They no longer engage me. I've watched lots, from diverse countries and I'm over them. I can tell where the story is going in the first few minutes. K drama so often blindsides me. Sure I recognise the tropes, but they can suddenly turn genre in interesting and provocative ways. There are of course exceptions and disappointments. But it seems to my jaundiced eye that the West has run out of stories, but SK is nowhere near the bottom of the well.

Oh I may have to check this out. Very rarely war dramas talk about the real affects of wars.