God knows I LOVE Korean dramas -I have no life because of them. But can I vent for a little bit?
REALLY? You can’t tell the person you love why you are breaking up with them? Honestly?
Why do we have to go through the old trope of “sorry even though I loved you madly a few hours ago, today I’m tired and exhausted, and this just isn’t going to work out” really you think they will believe that? How about “I just found out your grandfather’s corrupt dealings led to the death of my mom and now I don’t know what to do with my feelings for you”
Or the other one “I’m going to sacrifice myself for your happiness” Really? Se -Ho thinks the only way to help Kang Bok Su is to sacrifice himself to his mother/egg donor? He couldn’t think that maybe, just maybe he has the information that could put that horrible woman in jail and save the school?
Gaaaaaaahhhh – I love these dramas, but I’m so done with the sacrificial lamb trope. Writer Jim – please come up with some other ways to make the characters strong and believe in themselves!
Just saying……
I’m not watching CWP but in Boksoo I feel like Seho is motivated by a need to be punished. His mother’s plan gives him the twin gifts of making it up to Boksoo while getting the punishment he thinks he deserves. The fact it means the real perpetrator gets off scot free hasn’t registered yet.
Yes, I agree, his guilt is so great, and his sense of self-worth is so low that is he is a perfect puppet for his m**r/egg donor to get away with all her evilness.
Still, he breaks my heart with the pain we see in his face.
I agree @egads – but why oh why can’t they be honest and tell the other person why they need some space! Geez, I get so annoyed!!!
But yes, everyone is telling grandpa he is an a**hole but I really don’t want him to feel bad and get some sort of redemption arc…..
can you tell I’m getting tired of this whole noble IDIOCY storyline?
btw- how are you faring in the wonderful windchill there? So glad I’m not there anymore.
Agree 100% with the frustration of the unnecessary angst caused by non-communication. Especially since they had always been so honest with each other, so 60+ minutes of tears was a just gratuitous pathos.
However, when he wouldn’t shake her hand when they were parting, I know she thought he couldn’t touch her because of his OCD, but I got the feeling he was embarrassed by the state of hands from the compulsive washing. I thought that was an interesting scene and dynamic, but I might have completely misread it.
No redemption for grandpa. He has literally destroyed people and families and doesn’t deserve any sympathy, much less forgiveness. I won’t stand for it.
I haven’t left the house for two days, and don’t plan to anytime soon. I also liberally thank the furnace for all its hard work as it chugs away dutifully. I’ve never seen so many businesses close due to cold weather before. Even the bars in WI are closing, and nothing short of apocalyptical circumstances can cause that to happen, but these windchills are wicked. I do hope everyone stays safe.
That is what I thought as well, he was embarrassed by how bad his hands were. But I think she understood it.
I will be REALLY annoyed if they do some sort of redemption for grandpa before dies. grrrrrr
I love these two shows, I really do but was left so frustrated by both of them.
Wow even the bars in WI are closed! Now that is truly scary! Well know that I’m thinking of you and all my friends and sons who live there and remember those super cold days.
There was a really cold spell back in the early 90s and I remember the grief the governor got at that time for closing the schools.
take care and stay warm my friend
But he did have information to put his mom away, and she turned it on him (the bank records from the States) and she used it to blackmail him. He’s used all his hidden cards (he confessed to lying, he turned over the records). It’s clear his mother never trusted him with anything, so it’s totally conceivable that he has no access to her personal records etc. other than what her secretary tells him.
I also think he sees confessing is a means to atone for his past. I don’t think it’s entirely about Bok-soo either, though that is a large motivator. I think he genuinely wants to change and he thinks being a sacrificial lamb for the greater good is worth it, especially because he’s been conditioned to believe he’s worthless.
As for CWP, I’m with you. That ending yesterday had me rage-y. I can’t even watch today’s until I know how it goes.
You described it perfectly – Se-Ho’s sense of self-worth is so low that he feels this all he deserves.
When he was with Bok So’s mom and she said how he looked so starved for love (the subs said love-hungry) it made me cry. He is doing such an incredible job showing how broken he is even when he was being so awful.
This actor and the Crowned clown actor are doing spectacular – and they are both only 21 years old! WOW
Oh that m**r/egg donor and grandpa in CW need to be sent to prison together – or somewhere- they are both just so awful.
@snarkyjellyfish – how are you doing in this weather? Are you able to stay home and not have to go anywhere?
The whole scene with Bok-soo’s mom was absolutely heartbreaking to watch, because it must be so hard for her as a mother to meet the boy who destroyed her son’s life; yet at the same time it must be equally hard for her as a mother to watch a child be so starved for love. KDY is killing this role. I don’t even need redemption for this character, since at a certain point he started acting with deliberation and spite; but I would like atonement. I think he’s getting there, but he may have taken a bit of the wrong path. But that’s what Bok-soo and Co. are there for.
Grandpa and egg donor need to go jump into a fiery pit of spikes.
Got permission to work from home. (Clearly I’m being productive right now…) This city is dead outside right now, though I do hear the occasional ambulance or firetruck, but I do live near the hospital downtown and a fire station so those are normal noises. It looks beautiful outside — sun shining, bright white snow — but I know better than to trust it.
Agree with everything you wrote in your first paragraph.
The second paragraph should read “Grandpa and egg donor need TO BE THROWN into a fiery pit of spikes and snakes.”
The sunshine is very deceptive. I remember walking outside and the first breath in of the cold air made me cough. Not fun! Thank goodness you can work from home. I saw that there are many places in MN without power this morning. Not only is that hard for those in the houses, but the workers who had to go out and fix the problems.
But hey at least it isn’t “Global Waming” as some orange idiot claimed “please come back” in a tweet today.
**sigh… give me egg donor any day – at least she is intelligent**
Seriously. To all the above. And yes, snakes go well in a fiery pit of spikes. Maybe toss in some fire ants as well.
I have not been tempted outside yet. I have been tempted to make cookies though. And drink lots of tea. And ignore the research I need to do for a case. I assume it’s the kind of cold where it hurts to breathe today, which I don’t need to experience again anytime soon. I miss the winters of my childhood where five feet of snow and 12 degrees was a normal winter, and winters weren’t rainy for two years in a row and then it’s suddenly it’s “colder than Antarctica” out of nowhere.
Tangerine Mussolini needs to stfu and crawl back into whatever hole he came out of. And maybe take the senate leader with him.
Tangerine Mussolini – love it! His tweet this morning about how bad it was in the wonderful midwestern state and that we needed Global Waming to come back (you can’t make this s*t up)
Someone tweeted the response
“Can I have my Global Waming with a Hamberder and a Covfefe to go”
I’ve been laughing over that one all morning. And then another tweet
“Make sure it’s smoking please.”
These are the little breaks I take between hours of intense work in PS. – fun stuff!
It is 42 and I’m not complaining
Personally, I’m looking forward to a wedding venue at the end – only with Bok Su’s mom and teacher Park – I ship those two so much!!!
Hell, I’d ship him with ME if he was in front of me! Give me a teacher Park any day…
teachers ROCK – as well as nurses, aides in memory care units and those who take care of little kids……
Not gonna lie, I was into teacher Park’s glow-up this week. He really rocked the suit and trench look. I think Bok-soo’s mom also was into it. Though, she was definitely into it before too.
Oh she has definitely taken a shine to him for quite a while now. (me too) so when Teacher Park exclaimed last week “Won’t you be my son!” or something along those lines, we knew what he was really saying.
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stpauligurl
January 29, 2019 at 7:46 PM
#MyStrangeHero and #CleanWithPassionForNow
God knows I LOVE Korean dramas -I have no life because of them. But can I vent for a little bit?
REALLY? You can’t tell the person you love why you are breaking up with them? Honestly?
Why do we have to go through the old trope of “sorry even though I loved you madly a few hours ago, today I’m tired and exhausted, and this just isn’t going to work out” really you think they will believe that? How about “I just found out your grandfather’s corrupt dealings led to the death of my mom and now I don’t know what to do with my feelings for you”
Or the other one “I’m going to sacrifice myself for your happiness” Really? Se -Ho thinks the only way to help Kang Bok Su is to sacrifice himself to his mother/egg donor? He couldn’t think that maybe, just maybe he has the information that could put that horrible woman in jail and save the school?
Gaaaaaaahhhh – I love these dramas, but I’m so done with the sacrificial lamb trope. Writer Jim – please come up with some other ways to make the characters strong and believe in themselves!
Just saying……
Okay vent over.. now onto The Clowned Prince…
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 29, 2019 at 8:14 PM
I’m not watching CWP but in Boksoo I feel like Seho is motivated by a need to be punished. His mother’s plan gives him the twin gifts of making it up to Boksoo while getting the punishment he thinks he deserves. The fact it means the real perpetrator gets off scot free hasn’t registered yet.
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 5:11 AM
Yes, I agree, his guilt is so great, and his sense of self-worth is so low that is he is a perfect puppet for his m**r/egg donor to get away with all her evilness.
Still, he breaks my heart with the pain we see in his face.
egads aka Dame Maggie
January 29, 2019 at 8:37 PM
The only good thing about CWP today was basically everyone telling grandpa he is a horrible person who will rot in hell.
stpauligurl
January 29, 2019 at 9:28 PM
I agree @egads – but why oh why can’t they be honest and tell the other person why they need some space! Geez, I get so annoyed!!!
But yes, everyone is telling grandpa he is an a**hole but I really don’t want him to feel bad and get some sort of redemption arc…..
can you tell I’m getting tired of this whole noble IDIOCY storyline?
btw- how are you faring in the wonderful windchill there? So glad I’m not there anymore.
egads aka Dame Maggie
January 29, 2019 at 10:46 PM
Agree 100% with the frustration of the unnecessary angst caused by non-communication. Especially since they had always been so honest with each other, so 60+ minutes of tears was a just gratuitous pathos.
However, when he wouldn’t shake her hand when they were parting, I know she thought he couldn’t touch her because of his OCD, but I got the feeling he was embarrassed by the state of hands from the compulsive washing. I thought that was an interesting scene and dynamic, but I might have completely misread it.
No redemption for grandpa. He has literally destroyed people and families and doesn’t deserve any sympathy, much less forgiveness. I won’t stand for it.
I haven’t left the house for two days, and don’t plan to anytime soon. I also liberally thank the furnace for all its hard work as it chugs away dutifully. I’ve never seen so many businesses close due to cold weather before. Even the bars in WI are closing, and nothing short of apocalyptical circumstances can cause that to happen, but these windchills are wicked. I do hope everyone stays safe.
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 5:02 AM
That is what I thought as well, he was embarrassed by how bad his hands were. But I think she understood it.
I will be REALLY annoyed if they do some sort of redemption for grandpa before dies. grrrrrr
I love these two shows, I really do but was left so frustrated by both of them.
Wow even the bars in WI are closed! Now that is truly scary! Well know that I’m thinking of you and all my friends and sons who live there and remember those super cold days.
There was a really cold spell back in the early 90s and I remember the grief the governor got at that time for closing the schools.
take care and stay warm my friend
SnarkyJellyfish
January 29, 2019 at 9:45 PM
But he did have information to put his mom away, and she turned it on him (the bank records from the States) and she used it to blackmail him. He’s used all his hidden cards (he confessed to lying, he turned over the records). It’s clear his mother never trusted him with anything, so it’s totally conceivable that he has no access to her personal records etc. other than what her secretary tells him.
I also think he sees confessing is a means to atone for his past. I don’t think it’s entirely about Bok-soo either, though that is a large motivator. I think he genuinely wants to change and he thinks being a sacrificial lamb for the greater good is worth it, especially because he’s been conditioned to believe he’s worthless.
As for CWP, I’m with you. That ending yesterday had me rage-y. I can’t even watch today’s until I know how it goes.
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 5:09 AM
You described it perfectly – Se-Ho’s sense of self-worth is so low that he feels this all he deserves.
When he was with Bok So’s mom and she said how he looked so starved for love (the subs said love-hungry) it made me cry. He is doing such an incredible job showing how broken he is even when he was being so awful.
This actor and the Crowned clown actor are doing spectacular – and they are both only 21 years old! WOW
Oh that m**r/egg donor and grandpa in CW need to be sent to prison together – or somewhere- they are both just so awful.
@snarkyjellyfish – how are you doing in this weather? Are you able to stay home and not have to go anywhere?
SnarkyJellyfish
January 30, 2019 at 8:03 AM
The whole scene with Bok-soo’s mom was absolutely heartbreaking to watch, because it must be so hard for her as a mother to meet the boy who destroyed her son’s life; yet at the same time it must be equally hard for her as a mother to watch a child be so starved for love. KDY is killing this role. I don’t even need redemption for this character, since at a certain point he started acting with deliberation and spite; but I would like atonement. I think he’s getting there, but he may have taken a bit of the wrong path. But that’s what Bok-soo and Co. are there for.
Grandpa and egg donor need to go jump into a fiery pit of spikes.
Got permission to work from home. (Clearly I’m being productive right now…) This city is dead outside right now, though I do hear the occasional ambulance or firetruck, but I do live near the hospital downtown and a fire station so those are normal noises. It looks beautiful outside — sun shining, bright white snow — but I know better than to trust it.
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 10:33 AM
Agree with everything you wrote in your first paragraph.
The second paragraph should read “Grandpa and egg donor need TO BE THROWN into a fiery pit of spikes and snakes.”
The sunshine is very deceptive. I remember walking outside and the first breath in of the cold air made me cough. Not fun! Thank goodness you can work from home. I saw that there are many places in MN without power this morning. Not only is that hard for those in the houses, but the workers who had to go out and fix the problems.
But hey at least it isn’t “Global Waming” as some orange idiot claimed “please come back” in a tweet today.
**sigh… give me egg donor any day – at least she is intelligent**
SnarkyJellyfish
January 30, 2019 at 11:13 AM
Seriously. To all the above. And yes, snakes go well in a fiery pit of spikes. Maybe toss in some fire ants as well.
I have not been tempted outside yet. I have been tempted to make cookies though. And drink lots of tea. And ignore the research I need to do for a case. I assume it’s the kind of cold where it hurts to breathe today, which I don’t need to experience again anytime soon. I miss the winters of my childhood where five feet of snow and 12 degrees was a normal winter, and winters weren’t rainy for two years in a row and then it’s suddenly it’s “colder than Antarctica” out of nowhere.
Tangerine Mussolini needs to stfu and crawl back into whatever hole he came out of. And maybe take the senate leader with him.
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 12:18 PM
Tangerine Mussolini – love it! His tweet this morning about how bad it was in the wonderful midwestern state and that we needed Global Waming to come back (you can’t make this s*t up)
Someone tweeted the response
“Can I have my Global Waming with a Hamberder and a Covfefe to go”
I’ve been laughing over that one all morning. And then another tweet
“Make sure it’s smoking please.”
These are the little breaks I take between hours of intense work in PS. – fun stuff!
It is 42 and I’m not complaining
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 7:45 PM
Personally, I’m looking forward to a wedding venue at the end – only with Bok Su’s mom and teacher Park – I ship those two so much!!!
Hell, I’d ship him with ME if he was in front of me! Give me a teacher Park any day…
teachers ROCK – as well as nurses, aides in memory care units and those who take care of little kids……
SnarkyJellyfish
January 30, 2019 at 8:00 PM
Not gonna lie, I was into teacher Park’s glow-up this week. He really rocked the suit and trench look. I think Bok-soo’s mom also was into it. Though, she was definitely into it before too.
stpauligurl
January 30, 2019 at 8:15 PM
Oh she has definitely taken a shine to him for quite a while now. (me too) so when Teacher Park exclaimed last week “Won’t you be my son!” or something along those lines, we knew what he was really saying.