@ayaan,
I’m in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” camp. After reading that there’s a third season of KINGDOM in the works as well, I fear that SIGNAL 2 will be bumped even further back in the queque. On the other hand, if it means we end up with a truly worthy successor to the original show that picks up where the first left off and fills us in on what Detective Lee Jae-han has been up to — and why — in the intervening years, I’ll be more than happy to have waited during its gestation. I hope they see fit to recycle some of the music to help us slide back into the past. 😉
But I think all three seasons of Kingdom were planned from the start? Like they wrote all the scripts, it was just a matter of having the seasons greenlit for production? Because I remember when they announced Kingdom seeing something about how it’ll have three short seasons and then the writer wanted to do Signal 2. I mean, I assume the Kingdom scripts will need a bit of tweaking here and there, but for the most part my skepticism is more about whether the actors/PD will all make it – Signal was so great because it was one of the few dramas that hit the trifecta of great writing, acting and direction. I worry that if even one of the latter two elements changes it won’t have the same feel.
@ayaan,
Here’s hoping that they get the band back together. Having waited this long already, what’s a little longer if it means getting all the ducks in a row? 😉
@snarkyjellyfish,
It’s been so long that I’ve forgotten about KINGDOM’S 3 short seasons. I could be confusing it with ARTHDAL CHRONICLES. It would be great if the scripts were all done, and it is just a matter of getting the go-ahead to film the final season of KINGDOM. I’ve been rewatching it while doing a bit of research, and it’s excellent. Amazingly, there really is a frozen valley near Miryang! KINGDOM is head and shoulders above ARTHDAL, which got carried away with bombast.
As for SIGNAL 2, I agree with you about that golden “trifecta.” The cast and director/production crew were integral to bringing the script to life. My fingers are crossed that everyone makes it back to continue the alchemy.
I didn’t watch Arthdal – it looked like a hot mess before it aired, so I’m glad I never committed despite the great pedigree there. I don’t think they announced it as a multi-season show (except in the sense that this series was divided into three “seasons”) so I think that was a bit of a cop-out on their part.
I actually have no problem with multi-season shows as long as they have an endgame in mind and are OK with saying no to excessive/unnecessary seasons. For procedural shows, I definitely don’t have an issue since it works well with the format and allows for characters to come and go with fewer issues since those shows are more fluid in terms of cast. My big problem is that this season formatting doesn’t work well with genre shows that haven’t got a full story-arc planned ahead. Kingdom was planned this way, and they were up front about it, so I’m not mad at it. Arthdal was allegely planned this way too, but not being up front about it seems pretty underhanded and and unfair to its audience. I haven’t watched Kingdom yet because I knew it was going to be multi-seasoned and I wanted to wait since the seasons were short. (Though I may break soon because I’m watching Matrimonial Chaos right now and I suspect I’ll need more Bae Doo-na as soon as it’s over.) What Arthdal, and it seems Vagabond as well, have done seems like a cheap way of justifying more episodes if the audience was there.
I’m really looking forward to season 2 of KINGDOM come March. I was so overloaded with sageuks early in 2019 that I couldn’t give this one the attention it deserved when it first premiered. Having watched NOKDU FLOWER and MY COUNTRY in the interim, I can better appreciate KINGDOM the second time around (e.g., “sabal tongmun” circular signatures on covenants; yangban ministers vs. absolute monarchs in Joseon dynasty).
I usually prefer dramas to films because there’s more opportunity for character development over 16+ hours versus 2 hours. Seja and his bodyguard make quite an interesting pair. His Highness has a dry sense of humor that slays me.
KINGDOM feels very cinematic, with gorgeous production values. It moves at a good clip, and never drags. It reminds me of some of the BBC’s shows that have relatively few episodes per season. But it also manages to pull off some nicely-nuanced character development, and packs a lot of action into each episode — which clock in at an hour or less.
PakalanaPikake
December 13, 2019 at 1:29 AM
SIGNAL 2 in 2020?
https://www.hancinema.net/multi-season-dramas–guaranteed-content-vs-boring-self-replication-134658.html
For real?!
Ayan
December 13, 2019 at 1:51 AM
I hope so.The writer has confirmed she is working on the script but we have no news about the air date or the cast . Fingers crossed it works out!
PakalanaPikake
December 13, 2019 at 2:31 AM
@ayaan,
I’m in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” camp. After reading that there’s a third season of KINGDOM in the works as well, I fear that SIGNAL 2 will be bumped even further back in the queque. On the other hand, if it means we end up with a truly worthy successor to the original show that picks up where the first left off and fills us in on what Detective Lee Jae-han has been up to — and why — in the intervening years, I’ll be more than happy to have waited during its gestation. I hope they see fit to recycle some of the music to help us slide back into the past. 😉
SnarkyJellyfish
December 13, 2019 at 8:56 AM
But I think all three seasons of Kingdom were planned from the start? Like they wrote all the scripts, it was just a matter of having the seasons greenlit for production? Because I remember when they announced Kingdom seeing something about how it’ll have three short seasons and then the writer wanted to do Signal 2. I mean, I assume the Kingdom scripts will need a bit of tweaking here and there, but for the most part my skepticism is more about whether the actors/PD will all make it – Signal was so great because it was one of the few dramas that hit the trifecta of great writing, acting and direction. I worry that if even one of the latter two elements changes it won’t have the same feel.
Ayan
December 13, 2019 at 11:16 AM
I wouldn’t want the show to go ahead if the cast had changed, or the production team. They should wait to have everyone on board.
PakalanaPikake
December 16, 2019 at 1:15 PM
@ayaan,
Here’s hoping that they get the band back together. Having waited this long already, what’s a little longer if it means getting all the ducks in a row? 😉
PakalanaPikake
December 16, 2019 at 1:10 PM
@snarkyjellyfish,
It’s been so long that I’ve forgotten about KINGDOM’S 3 short seasons. I could be confusing it with ARTHDAL CHRONICLES. It would be great if the scripts were all done, and it is just a matter of getting the go-ahead to film the final season of KINGDOM. I’ve been rewatching it while doing a bit of research, and it’s excellent. Amazingly, there really is a frozen valley near Miryang! KINGDOM is head and shoulders above ARTHDAL, which got carried away with bombast.
As for SIGNAL 2, I agree with you about that golden “trifecta.” The cast and director/production crew were integral to bringing the script to life. My fingers are crossed that everyone makes it back to continue the alchemy.
SnarkyJellyfish
December 16, 2019 at 2:52 PM
I didn’t watch Arthdal – it looked like a hot mess before it aired, so I’m glad I never committed despite the great pedigree there. I don’t think they announced it as a multi-season show (except in the sense that this series was divided into three “seasons”) so I think that was a bit of a cop-out on their part.
I actually have no problem with multi-season shows as long as they have an endgame in mind and are OK with saying no to excessive/unnecessary seasons. For procedural shows, I definitely don’t have an issue since it works well with the format and allows for characters to come and go with fewer issues since those shows are more fluid in terms of cast. My big problem is that this season formatting doesn’t work well with genre shows that haven’t got a full story-arc planned ahead. Kingdom was planned this way, and they were up front about it, so I’m not mad at it. Arthdal was allegely planned this way too, but not being up front about it seems pretty underhanded and and unfair to its audience. I haven’t watched Kingdom yet because I knew it was going to be multi-seasoned and I wanted to wait since the seasons were short. (Though I may break soon because I’m watching Matrimonial Chaos right now and I suspect I’ll need more Bae Doo-na as soon as it’s over.) What Arthdal, and it seems Vagabond as well, have done seems like a cheap way of justifying more episodes if the audience was there.
PakalanaPikake
December 16, 2019 at 5:43 PM
@snarkyjellyfish,
I’m really looking forward to season 2 of KINGDOM come March. I was so overloaded with sageuks early in 2019 that I couldn’t give this one the attention it deserved when it first premiered. Having watched NOKDU FLOWER and MY COUNTRY in the interim, I can better appreciate KINGDOM the second time around (e.g., “sabal tongmun” circular signatures on covenants; yangban ministers vs. absolute monarchs in Joseon dynasty).
I usually prefer dramas to films because there’s more opportunity for character development over 16+ hours versus 2 hours. Seja and his bodyguard make quite an interesting pair. His Highness has a dry sense of humor that slays me.
KINGDOM feels very cinematic, with gorgeous production values. It moves at a good clip, and never drags. It reminds me of some of the BBC’s shows that have relatively few episodes per season. But it also manages to pull off some nicely-nuanced character development, and packs a lot of action into each episode — which clock in at an hour or less.
Ayan
December 13, 2019 at 11:14 AM
Yeah I don’t mind waiting for a great storyline. Even if it is not a full length drama, a film or 4 ep epilogue would be amazing.