Ok. Question time. Even though Wei Ying is satisfied and I should probably follow his example I can’t help it😅
1. WEN QING! WHAT HAPPENED TO WEN QING!!!!??????
2. Who’s the actual hidden mastermind behind all this?
3. How do one make a Tiger seal out of metal? How did Wei Ying made one half out of 3 metals and how did Xue Yang made another half out of just one piece?
4. How did Chenqing come back? Where was it all this time?
5. I’m guessing the Metal sword the 5th piece manifested itself into Chenqing. Am I correct?
6. Why did Undermight try to attack Jin Ling?
7. How come Su She was able to put hideous curse on Jin Zixun? Did he practice dark arts too?
Oh hooray!
Wen ning was possessed by Mingjue (the saber spirit) in ep 49. Just before Wen ning entered the temple, Meng yao had taken jin ling hostage and held the quqin string against his throat.
Wen ning came in and chopped the MY’s arm off, the blood splatter stained jin ling’s robes.
LZ and XC played the cleansing song to soothe the resentful energy of the saber spirit, they had formed a barrier in front of MY.
But jin ling’s robes still had MY’s blood, the saber spirit was confused and attacked jin ling. The saber spirit doesn’t differentiate between people and will continuously attack. Also the cleansing song that LZ and XC played was altered by MY to poison and kill MJ.
Regarding SuShe, he was very prideful and jealous of LZ. He worshipped MY who had shown him kindness and encouraged him. He didn’t like Zixun’s cousin because he looked down on MY. To be honest everyone in the Jin family looked down on MY.
I think he willingly agreed to act on MY’s behalf and curse them. It worked out well, this caused WX to be targeted and as a result LZ to be hurt. It would have been very easy for Meng yao to manipulate and create a situation where SuShu would see him crying or upset after the jin’s mistreated him. He could talk about the curses and leave the book lying there for SuShu to take action.
Meng yao was obsessed with gaining power and gaining recognition from his peers and father. He portrayed himself as someone weak and pitiful but behind the scenes, he was doing all he could to learn and absorb as much information as possible. He was a gifted qiqun player even though he never had lessons. He taught himself everything and learnt the secrets of every sect.
I think whilst he was undercover in the wen clan he learnt about the dark arts and also committed heinous acts with Xue Yang.
The only person that knew his true nature was Mingjue and he was murdered before the truth could come out.
SuShe was Meng Yao’s true follower so I think Meng Yao taught him. SuShe is too much of a coward to do something like that without the backing of someone powerful.
Yeah. I feel bad for Nie Mingjue and even more for Lan Hyung. You treat Yao justified-badly, he makes sure you feel guilty you wronged him. You treat Yao justified-nicely, he STILL makes you feel you’re somehow at the wrong.
Poor Xichen was probably confused outta his serene mind.
1. WEN QING! WHAT HAPPENED TO WEN QING!!!!??????
Like the other amazing female characters, the writer decided to kill Wen Qing. After the death of Zixun which was caused by Wen Ning. The Jin family requested WY to come in with the Wen survivors, WN and the Yin Metal (if I remember correctly this was the ultimatum) Wen Qing could see how protecting the Wen Clan was destroying WY, so she drugged WY and took the others to apologise. The Jin family lied to them and instead of accepting their apology, slaughtered them all and left their bodies hanging somewhere. ( I think this could have been the wen palace but I’m not sure.) This is also the scene where LZ fights the jin soldies after seeing what they have done.
Yes they really didn’t explain that well. Wen Qing and the survivors were just as victimised as everyone else. No one else stood up for them but WY.
So when WY woke up from the drug and found out, in his grief and guilt, the yin metal and resentful energy of the burial mounds overpowered him completely.
2. Who is the main mastermind? I feel like so many people were to blame. Overall I can pin it down to two people, one person responsible for the past and the present events.
In the past:
After the sunshot campaign, the powerful sects were the Jin family, Gusu lan sect and Jiang Chen’s sect. The Jin family were rich, greedy and wanted the power of the yin metal for themselves. Meng Yao also coverted the power and started to turn the other sects away from WY. Meng Yao used WY to deflect from his schemes. No one questioned why the jin family had to have all the yin metals or had to persecute the wen survivors or set up watch towers etc. The other sects weren’t in a position to question them as they needed the jin clan’s money to rebuild after the war. Meng Yao wasn’t accepted by the jin clan or his father, in turn he wasn’t respected by anyone else. He got rid of jin zixun – so he would be the only successor. He worked with xue yang to continue to find the yin metal and experiment on Wen Ning and Song Lan after Wei Ying’s death. He killed his father becuase the king would never trust him and did all he could to prevent Meng Yao near his grandchild. I believe if Meng Yao hadn’t died, he would have found a way to kill Jin Ling because he is a threat to his status.
In the present- the mastermind is Huisang. In a way he is just like Meng yao, they have hid their true nature under a facade. The difference is Huisang has never decieved anyone for his own power. He became suspicious of MengYao after the death of his brother. He did some investigating and found out Meng yao’s secrets. He discovered the secret about his wife and paid the prostitutes to speak to all the leaders.If you go back to the early episodes, there is a scene where this old man is talking about the yiling patriarch to some cultivators, I would have a look at who is walking past. I don’t think the drama did a good job of explaining this so I would recommend reading the book.
Anyway Hiusang is suspicious and makes use of Mo Xuan Yu who is being mistreated by his family. Mo Xuan Yu on the orders of Hiusang agrees to offer his body for WY to use and avenge him to kill his family and Meng Yao.
He also engineers the young gusu lan, LZ disciples to run into Mo Xuan Yu (now WY) and the yin metal. Anyway, the point is Huisang is weak at cultivation and had no proof to discredit Meng yao, he used WY and LZ to uncover the truth. He also planned a way to get into the temple for the final showdown and create a chance for Meng Yao to die. He manipulated XC to make the killing blow.
I think Meng Yao was the true evil doer, he didn’t need to commit so many heinous acts and he had so many opportunities to take another path. I still don’t understand how he could protect XC but in the same breath kill everyone else without an ounce of remorse.
I thought of Huisang being the hidden hand too but had second thought when he was THAT shocked upon discovering Mingjue’s body. He could’nt have done that all alone without anybody noticing and I couldn’t believe he wouldn’t immeadietely honor and bury hyung but use it further for his agenda.
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Meng Yao? I think he’s a sociopath and that’s why. I feel like if anything, TU gave me a simultaneous demonstration of sociopath vs psychopath via Meng Yao and Xue Yang 😅
Meng yao was digging up his mothers corpse and trying to escape. Huisang figured out his plan and switched the body with Mengjue. The awful thing that meng yao did was to torture and carve up mengjue’s body into pieces. Huisang discovered his brothers missing bodyparts and used them to lead WY and LZ to the truth.
Exactly, it was very interesting to see these two characters work together. I would have liked the show to mention that a bit more.
1. Wen Qing actually does when she and Wen Ning went to Jingling Tai to apologize. Wen Ning came back from the dead as a puppet being (saved again and) willfully “controlled” by Wei Ying via CHEN Qing (Wei Ying’s flute)
2. Meng Yao was the mastermind over everything that went down ever since he set free Xue Yang from the capture of the Nie Clan and became buddies with Xue Yang (that time when he faked innocence in killing someone but was actually caught by Nie Ming Jue… Around episode 11 or 12 🤔)
3. I forgot… But I’m doing a re-watch, so maybe the details will come back to me later lol
4. 16 years ago during the big battle & Wei Ying chose suicide (before he was saved by Mo Xuan Yu), after he had “died” his possessions were sort of scattered or taken by the Jin Clan, and secretly, by Jiang Cheng… Jiang Cheng took possession of Cheng Qing
Ah that’s the other question. What’s at the bottom of that cliff? Lava or ground? How’d he survive? And Chenqing just being with Jiang Cheng ..It’s anticlimactic isn’t it?😅 I expected something magical.
I think it was just open earth—i.e. lava— at the bottom of the cliff, so when Mo Xuan Yu saved Wei Ying, it must’ve been before Wei Ying hit the bottom…
Due to censorship, many things from the original novel & donghua (Chinese anime) was not explained/included in the drama
Despite Jiang Cheng being an ass and despite how he blames Wei Ying to a certain level over what happened to his family, I believe that he still loves Wei Ying like a blood brother and wanted to have a keepsake of Wei Ying’s after his “death”, and what better thing to keep than that of his most prized possession (Chen Qing) that Wei Ying always carried around with him?? ☺️☺️☺️
At first it was a little bit confusing because Episode 1 already opens up to present day (i.e. 16 years later) and Wei Ying has already been saved by Mo Xuan Yu—and presumably is in his body in some way magically, because he was living as Mo Xuan Yu in the Mo Manor with Mo Xuan Yu’s cousin & aunt (who abused him)— and very, VERY little info was given about Mo Xuan Yu except that it was mentioned (in passing, like it was a non event) that he’s another illegitimate son of Jin Guangshan, Leader of the Lanling Jin Sect (because, apparently, he was a whore and not only slept around but impregnated many).
I actually needed the help of other Beanies to explain it all to me, too, because I was also super confused, not having watched the donghua nor read the novel before watching the drama version 😅😅😅😉
Yeah I was so confused about the Mo Xuan Yu part, it took me ages to work out WY was supposed to be in a different body.
I still don’t understand the yin metal and how it works. I think I need to re watch the show!
@ayaan From what I understand, the Yin Metal is something made up of many piece that, when put together, can produce evil and bring about chaos into the pugilistic world, so it was crucial to have the “right” people to be in possession of it to guard it.
Yea, the drama didn’t do a great job in explaining the Mo Xuan Yu part and about how Wei Ying was supposed to be magically in his body and how the magic eventually wore off and everyone began recognizing him and seeing him as Wei Ying again
To my understanding, no, he should not– at least not during the beginnings of the “16 years later” part (the donghua, [i.e. the anime, but for Chinese animation it’s called ‘donghua’], makes it 20 years vs. the drama’s 16 years)
Yeah, this didn’t click me for until I read a fan fic! I think the novel mentioned it too but LZ was able to recognise WY in the present after he played their song when trying to calm Wei Ning.
Also that is why JC struck WY with zidan because he recognised WY’s mannerisms and how he used the same technique of the flute. He wanted to see if the body was possessed but there was no reaction.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 8:10 AM
Ok. Question time. Even though Wei Ying is satisfied and I should probably follow his example I can’t help it😅
1. WEN QING! WHAT HAPPENED TO WEN QING!!!!??????
2. Who’s the actual hidden mastermind behind all this?
3. How do one make a Tiger seal out of metal? How did Wei Ying made one half out of 3 metals and how did Xue Yang made another half out of just one piece?
4. How did Chenqing come back? Where was it all this time?
5. I’m guessing the Metal sword the 5th piece manifested itself into Chenqing. Am I correct?
6. Why did Undermight try to attack Jin Ling?
7. How come Su She was able to put hideous curse on Jin Zixun? Did he practice dark arts too?
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 8:33 AM
What episode are you on Peony?
Your questions will be answered soon!
I’m not sure who the undermight is, are you referring to Wen Ning?
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 8:46 AM
😬😬😬😬 I finished it and it’s the last 2 episodes that left me quizzical.
Undermight is Nie Mingjue’s sword.
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 9:06 AM
Oh hooray!
Wen ning was possessed by Mingjue (the saber spirit) in ep 49. Just before Wen ning entered the temple, Meng yao had taken jin ling hostage and held the quqin string against his throat.
Wen ning came in and chopped the MY’s arm off, the blood splatter stained jin ling’s robes.
LZ and XC played the cleansing song to soothe the resentful energy of the saber spirit, they had formed a barrier in front of MY.
But jin ling’s robes still had MY’s blood, the saber spirit was confused and attacked jin ling. The saber spirit doesn’t differentiate between people and will continuously attack. Also the cleansing song that LZ and XC played was altered by MY to poison and kill MJ.
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 9:12 AM
Regarding SuShe, he was very prideful and jealous of LZ. He worshipped MY who had shown him kindness and encouraged him. He didn’t like Zixun’s cousin because he looked down on MY. To be honest everyone in the Jin family looked down on MY.
I think he willingly agreed to act on MY’s behalf and curse them. It worked out well, this caused WX to be targeted and as a result LZ to be hurt. It would have been very easy for Meng yao to manipulate and create a situation where SuShu would see him crying or upset after the jin’s mistreated him. He could talk about the curses and leave the book lying there for SuShu to take action.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 9:54 AM
This I get. But isn’t putting curses a part of dark magic? Whered Su She learned it?
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 9:55 AM
Oh oh I see. Stupid question😅.
Of course a guy like him would learn a thing or two abt that particular field.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 9:53 AM
I KNEW it was blood.
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 10:04 AM
Meng yao was obsessed with gaining power and gaining recognition from his peers and father. He portrayed himself as someone weak and pitiful but behind the scenes, he was doing all he could to learn and absorb as much information as possible. He was a gifted qiqun player even though he never had lessons. He taught himself everything and learnt the secrets of every sect.
I think whilst he was undercover in the wen clan he learnt about the dark arts and also committed heinous acts with Xue Yang.
The only person that knew his true nature was Mingjue and he was murdered before the truth could come out.
SuShe was Meng Yao’s true follower so I think Meng Yao taught him. SuShe is too much of a coward to do something like that without the backing of someone powerful.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 10:14 AM
Yeah. I feel bad for Nie Mingjue and even more for Lan Hyung. You treat Yao justified-badly, he makes sure you feel guilty you wronged him. You treat Yao justified-nicely, he STILL makes you feel you’re somehow at the wrong.
Poor Xichen was probably confused outta his serene mind.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 9:56 AM
Please Ayan
If you have time help me with other questions too?🤗
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 10:06 AM
Sure, what other questions? I might be wrong with some of the answers though 😉😁
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 10:09 AM
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 10:44 AM
1. WEN QING! WHAT HAPPENED TO WEN QING!!!!??????
Like the other amazing female characters, the writer decided to kill Wen Qing. After the death of Zixun which was caused by Wen Ning. The Jin family requested WY to come in with the Wen survivors, WN and the Yin Metal (if I remember correctly this was the ultimatum) Wen Qing could see how protecting the Wen Clan was destroying WY, so she drugged WY and took the others to apologise. The Jin family lied to them and instead of accepting their apology, slaughtered them all and left their bodies hanging somewhere. ( I think this could have been the wen palace but I’m not sure.) This is also the scene where LZ fights the jin soldies after seeing what they have done.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 10:49 AM
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
But it was never explained in the drama and sweet Wen Qing was disserviced by that
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM
Yes they really didn’t explain that well. Wen Qing and the survivors were just as victimised as everyone else. No one else stood up for them but WY.
So when WY woke up from the drug and found out, in his grief and guilt, the yin metal and resentful energy of the burial mounds overpowered him completely.
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 12:15 PM
2. Who is the main mastermind? I feel like so many people were to blame. Overall I can pin it down to two people, one person responsible for the past and the present events.
In the past:
After the sunshot campaign, the powerful sects were the Jin family, Gusu lan sect and Jiang Chen’s sect. The Jin family were rich, greedy and wanted the power of the yin metal for themselves. Meng Yao also coverted the power and started to turn the other sects away from WY. Meng Yao used WY to deflect from his schemes. No one questioned why the jin family had to have all the yin metals or had to persecute the wen survivors or set up watch towers etc. The other sects weren’t in a position to question them as they needed the jin clan’s money to rebuild after the war. Meng Yao wasn’t accepted by the jin clan or his father, in turn he wasn’t respected by anyone else. He got rid of jin zixun – so he would be the only successor. He worked with xue yang to continue to find the yin metal and experiment on Wen Ning and Song Lan after Wei Ying’s death. He killed his father becuase the king would never trust him and did all he could to prevent Meng Yao near his grandchild. I believe if Meng Yao hadn’t died, he would have found a way to kill Jin Ling because he is a threat to his status.
In the present- the mastermind is Huisang. In a way he is just like Meng yao, they have hid their true nature under a facade. The difference is Huisang has never decieved anyone for his own power. He became suspicious of MengYao after the death of his brother. He did some investigating and found out Meng yao’s secrets. He discovered the secret about his wife and paid the prostitutes to speak to all the leaders.If you go back to the early episodes, there is a scene where this old man is talking about the yiling patriarch to some cultivators, I would have a look at who is walking past. I don’t think the drama did a good job of explaining this so I would recommend reading the book.
Anyway Hiusang is suspicious and makes use of Mo Xuan Yu who is being mistreated by his family. Mo Xuan Yu on the orders of Hiusang agrees to offer his body for WY to use and avenge him to kill his family and Meng Yao.
He also engineers the young gusu lan, LZ disciples to run into Mo Xuan Yu (now WY) and the yin metal. Anyway, the point is Huisang is weak at cultivation and had no proof to discredit Meng yao, he used WY and LZ to uncover the truth. He also planned a way to get into the temple for the final showdown and create a chance for Meng Yao to die. He manipulated XC to make the killing blow.
I think Meng Yao was the true evil doer, he didn’t need to commit so many heinous acts and he had so many opportunities to take another path. I still don’t understand how he could protect XC but in the same breath kill everyone else without an ounce of remorse.
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 12:28 PM
I thought of Huisang being the hidden hand too but had second thought when he was THAT shocked upon discovering Mingjue’s body. He could’nt have done that all alone without anybody noticing and I couldn’t believe he wouldn’t immeadietely honor and bury hyung but use it further for his agenda.
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Meng Yao? I think he’s a sociopath and that’s why. I feel like if anything, TU gave me a simultaneous demonstration of sociopath vs psychopath via Meng Yao and Xue Yang 😅
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 12:35 PM
Meng yao was digging up his mothers corpse and trying to escape. Huisang figured out his plan and switched the body with Mengjue. The awful thing that meng yao did was to torture and carve up mengjue’s body into pieces. Huisang discovered his brothers missing bodyparts and used them to lead WY and LZ to the truth.
Exactly, it was very interesting to see these two characters work together. I would have liked the show to mention that a bit more.
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 25, 2019 at 11:54 AM
1. Wen Qing actually does when she and Wen Ning went to Jingling Tai to apologize. Wen Ning came back from the dead as a puppet being (saved again and) willfully “controlled” by Wei Ying via CHEN Qing (Wei Ying’s flute)
2. Meng Yao was the mastermind over everything that went down ever since he set free Xue Yang from the capture of the Nie Clan and became buddies with Xue Yang (that time when he faked innocence in killing someone but was actually caught by Nie Ming Jue… Around episode 11 or 12 🤔)
3. I forgot… But I’m doing a re-watch, so maybe the details will come back to me later lol
4. 16 years ago during the big battle & Wei Ying chose suicide (before he was saved by Mo Xuan Yu), after he had “died” his possessions were sort of scattered or taken by the Jin Clan, and secretly, by Jiang Cheng… Jiang Cheng took possession of Cheng Qing
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM
Ah that’s the other question. What’s at the bottom of that cliff? Lava or ground? How’d he survive? And Chenqing just being with Jiang Cheng ..It’s anticlimactic isn’t it?😅 I expected something magical.
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 25, 2019 at 12:42 PM
I think it was just open earth—i.e. lava— at the bottom of the cliff, so when Mo Xuan Yu saved Wei Ying, it must’ve been before Wei Ying hit the bottom…
Due to censorship, many things from the original novel & donghua (Chinese anime) was not explained/included in the drama
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 25, 2019 at 12:46 PM
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Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 25, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Despite Jiang Cheng being an ass and despite how he blames Wei Ying to a certain level over what happened to his family, I believe that he still loves Wei Ying like a blood brother and wanted to have a keepsake of Wei Ying’s after his “death”, and what better thing to keep than that of his most prized possession (Chen Qing) that Wei Ying always carried around with him?? ☺️☺️☺️
Peony
December 25, 2019 at 12:44 PM
I wanna meet dis Mo Xuanyu because damn 😂 What a cool random guy!
Thanks @bebeswtz !!
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 25, 2019 at 1:34 PM
At first it was a little bit confusing because Episode 1 already opens up to present day (i.e. 16 years later) and Wei Ying has already been saved by Mo Xuan Yu—and presumably is in his body in some way magically, because he was living as Mo Xuan Yu in the Mo Manor with Mo Xuan Yu’s cousin & aunt (who abused him)— and very, VERY little info was given about Mo Xuan Yu except that it was mentioned (in passing, like it was a non event) that he’s another illegitimate son of Jin Guangshan, Leader of the Lanling Jin Sect (because, apparently, he was a whore and not only slept around but impregnated many).
I actually needed the help of other Beanies to explain it all to me, too, because I was also super confused, not having watched the donghua nor read the novel before watching the drama version 😅😅😅😉
If you have the time—
Link to the novel (English translated):
https://exiledrebelsscanlations.com/novels/grandmaster-of-demonic-cultivation/
Link to the donghua:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMX26aiIvX5rWjEqareJBmoX-_uTFtemk
Ayan
December 25, 2019 at 3:27 PM
Yeah I was so confused about the Mo Xuan Yu part, it took me ages to work out WY was supposed to be in a different body.
I still don’t understand the yin metal and how it works. I think I need to re watch the show!
Peony
December 26, 2019 at 2:33 AM
WAIT WHAT So Wei Ying actually should NOT have Xiao Zhan’s face?😱😱😱
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 26, 2019 at 9:25 AM
@ayaan From what I understand, the Yin Metal is something made up of many piece that, when put together, can produce evil and bring about chaos into the pugilistic world, so it was crucial to have the “right” people to be in possession of it to guard it.
Yea, the drama didn’t do a great job in explaining the Mo Xuan Yu part and about how Wei Ying was supposed to be magically in his body and how the magic eventually wore off and everyone began recognizing him and seeing him as Wei Ying again
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 26, 2019 at 9:27 AM
@peony
To my understanding, no, he should not– at least not during the beginnings of the “16 years later” part (the donghua, [i.e. the anime, but for Chinese animation it’s called ‘donghua’], makes it 20 years vs. the drama’s 16 years)
Peony
December 26, 2019 at 2:35 AM
I have read almost half the novel but onlythe chapters with “interesting” looking titles and summaries. So I probably missed this 😅
Ayan
December 26, 2019 at 4:53 AM
Yeah, this didn’t click me for until I read a fan fic! I think the novel mentioned it too but LZ was able to recognise WY in the present after he played their song when trying to calm Wei Ning.
Also that is why JC struck WY with zidan because he recognised WY’s mannerisms and how he used the same technique of the flute. He wanted to see if the body was possessed but there was no reaction.
Bebe | Nessa❣️
December 26, 2019 at 9:29 AM
@ayaan
This….. actually explains A LOT~!!! lol Thank you, friend