I hope the next generation gets to see it amara or if magically, we get too in our lives. One big issue with raising the issue of inequality is that many men think that women have everything, they don’t understand what else they need. They forget that this isn’t a men vs women but a people vs society/system kind of debate. We don’t even tell them that hey you are responsible for this, but they think we do. That’s a mess, it’s hard talking to some misogynist men who think you don’t deserve your basic rights because they think you have everthing. Why do I have a mind if someone else can think for me? We have a long way to go but we have nothing but hope.
Lol i ended up seeing your other post and realized this wasn’t really about gender inequality (my mind was stuck on a few comments i read on a video about women not having a bsic right and all the men lost their s***) but more so socio economic. I’d probabpy say the same for that too that it’s a people vs system thing but only now are people waking up to the fact that capitalism isn’t a good system. Again unfortunately since it benefits the rich and mostly they rule their countries, they won’t be willing to understand the effect it has on the poor. Equality in all forms is hard to acheive yet as people are just waking up.
i agree on all fronts! they’re all entertwined and the socioeconomic factors directly relate to patriarchy, patrilianelism, misogyny, race, everything. i am so happy that we are talking about class but then the labor movement can become reductionist. why is it that women are excluded? and it’s exactly what you said above, men may not understand, or do think we have everything!
i went to an organizing workshop and we were speaking of problems in the workforce related to race and gender. intersectionality is so important and we forget… it was interesting to hear that many people think the wage gap is NATURAL like capitalism is. as if this isn’t intentional between women, men, and races, women of different races, etc it’s just the way the world is, right?
in diary of a prosecutor there was this quote, “if things were way better, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now” (about womens rights as mothers and in the workforce) and after allll the exploring ive done and everything ive learned i never thought of it that way LOL
Oh I love that quote, I think I’ll be using this from now on. But I don’t expect a positive response, either I will be called ungrateful or delusional. Oh yeah wage gap, capitalism it’s all so natural, yeah sure. It takes some guts to realize that maybe all that we have been fed all this while wasn’t exactly right, but we benefited from that so we didn’t rather couldn’t see the harm it posed someone else. Honestly, Parasite made me see capitalism in a different light, one I have ignored or have thought of as just part of the system but you know the system isn’t right unfortunately and we are destroying the planet due to it as well.
this is how powerful art is! i’m so glad you liked it and it made you explore that part of your mind. that’s a huge part of the work. i ignored it, too, or just thought it was too complicated? i dont know, there’s things i paid attention to and things i thought didnt matter.
and even as a black woman, i have benefited off of plenty, thinking my role in life wouldnt affect others, or discrediting the type of power even i held. i’m just now learning about disability rights and sometimes i smack my head going “WOW” how couldnt i hve thought of this? cos we live in this individualist state of mind!
luckily, we know this now. luckily, we are NOT going to become the Big Boss, the CEOs, and luckily there are ppl that think this way. seriously i think parasite really put a lot of things in perspective (not the rich ppl who missed the point) and reframed this idea of worth and labor
i met a super good friend of mine when i used to work at strbucks. we’ve been friends for 5 years. fem presenting…but she was on hormones for a bit, but had to stop once it was too expensive
i learned more awful things about this company, like how they spent 10m in publicity to make themselves look good while trying to stop workers from unionizing. in this publicity stunt they lied and said they built this bridge in ethiopia.
they get a lot of their beans form ethiopia. they wanted to trademark the names of the places these beans, FROM ETHIOPIA, came from. they also were only paying this farmers let’s say 2-5% on every BAG sold, which is obscene.
turns out, the “bridge” they built was a 10ft slab of concrete that everyone in this ethiopian village wanted out of their town.
this is just an example and VERY tame idea of how ridiculous and evil this shit is—way worse things like death, inducing more poverty, discrimination etc, but this is a pretty large material condition while they claim they cant have a union.
so i told my friend this—this is someone who may not know as much as i do when it comes to this stuff but we are both black and it’s a huge part of our understanding of ourselves and how we relate to the world. so politics is something we are on the same page with usually, or i can explain it to her—and her first response was…”well it makes sense why they would do that (10m) because dont they have to make money? i mean we get healthcare* and that’s not cheap for the company”
and it was another eye opener, even as i try and work on a labor campaign. like, they have done a NUMBER on us. a first response to clearly unethical and gross practice is justification on how a company makes money…wild
*(if you work x/hrs and hrs arent guaranteed and it’s a huge cost…ur paying to work to live)
there are always people going to defend this bullshit and always the dominant ones willing to get angry when we point it out, or generalize in a way that says this STRUCTURE is so poor, so disgusting, and it hurts women so much and it also hurts them (but why do we have to justify wanting to be free?? we have to qualify that other groups will be included too? and we do the most labor to get there..)
the sad part is, “patriarchy has no gender” as we all adopt these thoughts throughout life. but honestly…i’m a really really idealistic person. i never realized how pie in the sky i could be, because i’ve always thought melancholy came first. but through alllllll the pain, i can see that we’re trying our best. we only have one life to live, i wish we could get the future we want soooo badly, it’s scary to think that one day we won’t be here….but we are putting down the roots. and in our lifetimes there is no way for total peace and change… it’s so sad, it shouldnt be this way, but it’s ok… because life is challenging. but we ARE working towards it and we will get something. i literally refuse to live a life that should support such misery!!!!
and the best part of it is that this becomes normal. we start talking about it. we share our feelings and we have empathy and the best thing we have done for ourselves, or we are lucky to have the space to, is caring!!!
tonigti feel better about it than usual. some days i really want to give up. but then i get so excited when people share andwe talk about it. feel less alone. thank you 🙂
Yes talking and criticizing it is the first part. I feel dialogue on women’s rights has so much improved since the Metoo movement. Victim blaming has reduced, specially in women.
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amara
January 23, 2020 at 5:00 PM
me imagining a world without inequality
wapz
January 23, 2020 at 10:17 PM
I hope the next generation gets to see it amara or if magically, we get too in our lives. One big issue with raising the issue of inequality is that many men think that women have everything, they don’t understand what else they need. They forget that this isn’t a men vs women but a people vs society/system kind of debate. We don’t even tell them that hey you are responsible for this, but they think we do. That’s a mess, it’s hard talking to some misogynist men who think you don’t deserve your basic rights because they think you have everthing. Why do I have a mind if someone else can think for me? We have a long way to go but we have nothing but hope.
wapz
January 23, 2020 at 10:23 PM
Lol i ended up seeing your other post and realized this wasn’t really about gender inequality (my mind was stuck on a few comments i read on a video about women not having a bsic right and all the men lost their s***) but more so socio economic. I’d probabpy say the same for that too that it’s a people vs system thing but only now are people waking up to the fact that capitalism isn’t a good system. Again unfortunately since it benefits the rich and mostly they rule their countries, they won’t be willing to understand the effect it has on the poor. Equality in all forms is hard to acheive yet as people are just waking up.
amara
January 23, 2020 at 11:06 PM
i agree on all fronts! they’re all entertwined and the socioeconomic factors directly relate to patriarchy, patrilianelism, misogyny, race, everything. i am so happy that we are talking about class but then the labor movement can become reductionist. why is it that women are excluded? and it’s exactly what you said above, men may not understand, or do think we have everything!
i went to an organizing workshop and we were speaking of problems in the workforce related to race and gender. intersectionality is so important and we forget… it was interesting to hear that many people think the wage gap is NATURAL like capitalism is. as if this isn’t intentional between women, men, and races, women of different races, etc it’s just the way the world is, right?
in diary of a prosecutor there was this quote, “if things were way better, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now” (about womens rights as mothers and in the workforce) and after allll the exploring ive done and everything ive learned i never thought of it that way LOL
wapz
January 24, 2020 at 6:38 AM
Oh I love that quote, I think I’ll be using this from now on. But I don’t expect a positive response, either I will be called ungrateful or delusional. Oh yeah wage gap, capitalism it’s all so natural, yeah sure. It takes some guts to realize that maybe all that we have been fed all this while wasn’t exactly right, but we benefited from that so we didn’t rather couldn’t see the harm it posed someone else. Honestly, Parasite made me see capitalism in a different light, one I have ignored or have thought of as just part of the system but you know the system isn’t right unfortunately and we are destroying the planet due to it as well.
amara
January 24, 2020 at 8:50 AM
this is how powerful art is! i’m so glad you liked it and it made you explore that part of your mind. that’s a huge part of the work. i ignored it, too, or just thought it was too complicated? i dont know, there’s things i paid attention to and things i thought didnt matter.
and even as a black woman, i have benefited off of plenty, thinking my role in life wouldnt affect others, or discrediting the type of power even i held. i’m just now learning about disability rights and sometimes i smack my head going “WOW” how couldnt i hve thought of this? cos we live in this individualist state of mind!
luckily, we know this now. luckily, we are NOT going to become the Big Boss, the CEOs, and luckily there are ppl that think this way. seriously i think parasite really put a lot of things in perspective (not the rich ppl who missed the point) and reframed this idea of worth and labor
amara
January 24, 2020 at 8:58 AM
i met a super good friend of mine when i used to work at strbucks. we’ve been friends for 5 years. fem presenting…but she was on hormones for a bit, but had to stop once it was too expensive
i learned more awful things about this company, like how they spent 10m in publicity to make themselves look good while trying to stop workers from unionizing. in this publicity stunt they lied and said they built this bridge in ethiopia.
they get a lot of their beans form ethiopia. they wanted to trademark the names of the places these beans, FROM ETHIOPIA, came from. they also were only paying this farmers let’s say 2-5% on every BAG sold, which is obscene.
turns out, the “bridge” they built was a 10ft slab of concrete that everyone in this ethiopian village wanted out of their town.
this is just an example and VERY tame idea of how ridiculous and evil this shit is—way worse things like death, inducing more poverty, discrimination etc, but this is a pretty large material condition while they claim they cant have a union.
so i told my friend this—this is someone who may not know as much as i do when it comes to this stuff but we are both black and it’s a huge part of our understanding of ourselves and how we relate to the world. so politics is something we are on the same page with usually, or i can explain it to her—and her first response was…”well it makes sense why they would do that (10m) because dont they have to make money? i mean we get healthcare* and that’s not cheap for the company”
and it was another eye opener, even as i try and work on a labor campaign. like, they have done a NUMBER on us. a first response to clearly unethical and gross practice is justification on how a company makes money…wild
*(if you work x/hrs and hrs arent guaranteed and it’s a huge cost…ur paying to work to live)
amara
January 23, 2020 at 11:08 PM
there are always people going to defend this bullshit and always the dominant ones willing to get angry when we point it out, or generalize in a way that says this STRUCTURE is so poor, so disgusting, and it hurts women so much and it also hurts them (but why do we have to justify wanting to be free?? we have to qualify that other groups will be included too? and we do the most labor to get there..)
the sad part is, “patriarchy has no gender” as we all adopt these thoughts throughout life. but honestly…i’m a really really idealistic person. i never realized how pie in the sky i could be, because i’ve always thought melancholy came first. but through alllllll the pain, i can see that we’re trying our best. we only have one life to live, i wish we could get the future we want soooo badly, it’s scary to think that one day we won’t be here….but we are putting down the roots. and in our lifetimes there is no way for total peace and change… it’s so sad, it shouldnt be this way, but it’s ok… because life is challenging. but we ARE working towards it and we will get something. i literally refuse to live a life that should support such misery!!!!
and the best part of it is that this becomes normal. we start talking about it. we share our feelings and we have empathy and the best thing we have done for ourselves, or we are lucky to have the space to, is caring!!!
tonigti feel better about it than usual. some days i really want to give up. but then i get so excited when people share andwe talk about it. feel less alone. thank you 🙂
wapz
January 24, 2020 at 6:40 AM
Yes talking and criticizing it is the first part. I feel dialogue on women’s rights has so much improved since the Metoo movement. Victim blaming has reduced, specially in women.