Beanie level: Noble idiot

I haven’t watched Reply 1994 so I could care less about Chilbongie being Chilbongie’d again.

I’m going down on the Junwan-Songhwa ship and there’s no stopping me.

The only other guy I’ll accept with Songhwa is Ikjun, but I doubt that’s going to happen.

But then again, this PD is OBSESSED with first love…and we’re all confident at this point Songhwa’s first love is Ikjun

But what if PD Shin is trying to break away from his tropes and won’t have *any* love lines between his characters?

That’ll be a bummer but seeing the way they kept emphasizing how believing girls and guys can’t be friends is old-fashioned…

Ugh but Songhwa is so shippable

But she’s also too cool for any of these people

Also Jeon Mi Do makes an AMAZING doctor

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    Yes yes and yes to all!

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    Ik-joon is married and has a son, though, no?

    I’d be okay with Jun-wan or Jung-won, tbh. I like Jung-won more as a character, though. Jun-wan is too shouty for me (so far, anyway).

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      Yeah that’s true !! Some people are theorizing he’s going to have problems with his married life down the line given the preview for Episode 3, but I dont think thats the case either

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I hadn’t realized just how deeply I’d fallen in love with Jang Dong Yoon until I saw a post on here about him considering a noona workplace romance and my heartbeat picked up?!? Gotta love it when an oppa creeps up on you without you even noticing

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    You’re having one of those kdramas moments where you’re like “oh no what’s wrong with me…why is my heart beating faster” and you get all flustered. 😉

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Hospital Playlist Ep 1 Thoughts

So was I the only one who was expecting that our main girl would be married to one of the boys in their crew? No? But these are the same writers as Reply, how can they not have at least one couple in their friend group?!?

I was fine with all of our friends being introduced as single but when Jo Jung Suk’s character appeared onscreen with his cute little son, and the drama made a point to showcase how Song Hwa was looking after him, I couldn’t help but hope that these two were married. But then who’s Professor Jang? We’re made to think that Song-hwa is dating Professor Jang, but what if that’s just a lie and this is all just another ‘who’s-the-husband’ game?? Maybe I’m being delusional. Yeah, maybe that’s it. I should just take things as the show is giving them to me.

*lowkey still hopes Ik-jun and Song-hwa have a son together*

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    I was surprised he had a son too! At first I thought ohhh no husband guessing this time since he’s married then I realized shoot is it Seonghwa? I swear if they do husband stuff again ughhh. Don’t let Yoo Yoonseok go through this again!

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      “Don’t let Yoo Yoonseok go through this again!”

      HAHAHAHA! I laughed more than I should. Poor Chillbong. Maybe they’ll pull off another Jung Yumi at the end too.

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        I was team Trash back then but still felt bad for Chilbong. I dont think I can see him broken again

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      YYS’s character DEFINITELY has a thing for Song hwa DAMMIT why are they doing this again

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      You guys are forgetting that the writer/director duo worked on prison playbook as well apart from the reply series and there was no guessing in that!!

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    I’m already shipping Songhwa with everyone. Kim Jun Wan teasing her was funny. But then in their first group photo, Ikjun’s hands were on Songhwa’s shoulders.

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      This writer-director duo made us all patanoid. Lol

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      1. Songhwa sleeping with Ikjun’s son – maybe she’s just being a good friend but who knows.
      2. Ikjun knows the most about Songhwa; even when the group is scheming on how to convince Songhwa to join the band they asked Ikjun first for any dirt on her
      3. He holds her guitar for her when she’s adjusting it
      4. THEY WERE WEARING MATCHING CLOTHES
      5. idk they just seemed to have this unrivalled sense of familiarity between them.

      I’m most likely reading into things that don’t exist but you can’t convince me that at least one of these men hasn’t already or won’t end up marrying Songhwa, and it rlly seems to be Ik-jun…

      GAH I KNOW IM BEING DELUSIONAL I KNOW I AM.

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        The way Junwan looked at her during band practice was also something to note!

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        No you’re not delusional. By the end of ep 1, Song Hwa’s boyfriend already cheated on her and I’m guessing Ik Jun and SH were a thing back in college but then IJ married someone else and is probably a single father now. The promos all hinted at them becoming a couple so I’m not even surprised that her boyfriend cheated on her in the very first episode.

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          Okay in the last scene that guy in the elevator was her boyfriend!?? I did not catch that so thankyou!!

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    I kinda wished more of them were married that would have been more realistic. Cuz most ppl are married by 40(not all ofc) but also I’m sure future episodes will reveal more complexities and layers for each of their existing or to happen relationships! This was just the first ep!

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Hi Bye Mama.

The cognitive dissonance with this drama is too real. I just want to know already the direction this drama is going to take because not knowing is giving me too much anxiety. I know it’s just a drama but I’m already so invested in Yu Ri and Gang Hwa !!!

The fact that Min Jung i.e. the stepmom, is billed as main cast (and is in the main poster) tells us she’s here to stay and has a big role.

The most logical and obvious outcome for this drama is that Yuri leaves after her 49 days are over but not before healing the wounds her sudden death had caused everyone.

But at the same time the flashbacks and montages of GH and YR’s happy marriage, all those missed opportunities, the inability of everyone to move on makes me want her to stay beyond those 49 days. Her death was just so grossly unfair and all those glimpses of happier times are just so depressing.

The primitive, dog-brain part of my mind wants Yuri to stay, but the logical, moralistic part wants the show to have Yuri just heal and leave everyone.

UGH IM SO CONFLICTED. Even if she stays alive, there’s so much that needs to be resolved.

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    In my mind, she’ll be leaving after 49 days. It doesn’t make sense for someone who’s already been dead to come back to life. What identity will she take? She’s already dead. She can’t be Yu-ri again.

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      I think the same. Also had it been the first time we would’ve seen the writers work then maybe it wouldn’t have been that predictable but thus shiw has so much in common with GBC. There this whole resolve our issues and leave situation fit too and only that makes sense here too.

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I just binged through CRUEL CITY this week and while the drama itself was fantastic, my experience would not have been the same if I hadn’t stumbled upon this blog during my binge http://dr-myri-blog.blogspot.com/.

I think the writers of this blog are also active here on DB so whoever you are I want to THANK YOU for literally MAKING MY WEEK with every single Cruel City “squee-cap” of yours. I don’t know you guys but I love you, and think each and every single one of you is hilarious and awesome

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    I recall 4 or 5 of the writers being active Beanies here a while back! Their squee-caps are hilarious indeed. I particularly remember the squee-caps for Heirs and When A Man Loves! *laughing*

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      mary used to write for them, that’s how I first discovered her!

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    “Cruel City” is definitely a good one ~!!! It’s the drama that introduced me to Jung Kyung Ho & Yoon Hyun Min and I have never looked back since!!

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I’ve emerged from the darkness otherwise known as a university-induced drama slump, to report that I’m absolutely obsessed with Hi Bye Mama.
I’ve been anticipating this one ever since it was announced and boy have the first 2 episodes lived up to expectations.
Also I thought it was just me but Lee Kyu Hyung is so attractive in this. I’ve always acknowledged he was a handsome man but this

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I decided to embark on a long-awaited watch of My Lovely Kim Sam Soon, considered a classic by many.

I knew what to expect – it was an early 2000s drama, an era notorious for kick-starting many of the classic tropes we see on TV today. So I wasn’t surprised to see any of those.

But can I just say HOW GLAD I AM that we’ve done away with the second female trope nowadays? I guess dramas today are more geared to pleasing their female viewers, so there’s a greater emphasis on the second male lead than the villainous SFL. Second female leads, if any nowadays, are ineffective at best. But back in the day, they were such compelling forces to our main couple, it made the main couple’s reconciliation look insincere, like the ML had chosen the FL as a second choice, while still holding deep affections for the SFL.

This was my biggest qualm in Goong (that show just spent WAY TOO LONG with the ML hesitating over his feelings) and it’s also my problem with Kim Sam Soon.

I’ve decided my problem isn’t the long-drawn out relationship between the ML and SFL, because I didn’t mind this in 2005’s My Delightful Choon-Hyang, or in 2007’s 9 Ends 2 Outs, but rather the way it’s done.

Maybe it comes down to the fact that the leads had a better established relationship before the angst hit, or that the FL had a hunky man of her own so she wasn’t left pathetically pining after him in the dust, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS. But I just couldn’t come to root for their relationship in Sam Soon like other old dramas.

I don’t understand why it took Hyun Bin’s character such a long time to come to terms with his feelings for Sam Soon (gotta love the thing about old kdramas where the girl always falls first *sarcasm*). Maybe I’m being unfair to this drama by stopping at Episode 7 and not continuing, but somewhere along the way I wasn’t feeling the same crack-tastic spark I felt in the first 4 episodes. Oh right..because that’s when the SFL appeared…

Anyway, moral of the story. Romcoms back in the day were more raw, intense, and had more substance, but a goddamn SECOND FEMALE LEAD ruined the story. Realistic relationships or no second female lead? Gotta pick ur battles I guess

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    I personnally think the OTP shouldn’t have been together. Not because of the ML’s hesitation but just their different view on the future. Sam Soon said he was her last chance to get married and… he was not the best choice. I kind of felt bad she viewed him as her only way to find happiness when she could’ve been with someone else who could see her for what she was.

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    I re-watched it again this year and I remembered how much I hated the romance. He was awful to her for most of the drama and the scene when he left for the states made me so cross. The SFL was so extreme and nasty, it ruined the show completely.

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I started Chicago Typewriter yesterday and I’m already on Episode 9 and

This may just be the drama I’ve been waiting for my whole life. Holy crap I’m so in love

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After hearing how wacko this episode was, I decided to do a live commentary of Extraordinary You Episode 14 as I watched it.

https://thekdramacloset.wordpress.com/2019/11/16/ks-live-commentary-extraordinary-you-episode-14/

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GAH Extraordinary You is why I don\’t like to think about my dramas too much, because it\’s always much better in your head than canon

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    Damn, that’s exactly what I was saying when the whole Goryeo-manga twist was properly revealed. I had some way more unique ideas 😂

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Maybe it’s because I’m a sageuk trash, or that that entire segment of Extraordinary You is just more interesting, better acted and more emotional, but the Flower scenes might have been the only stuff I enjoyed in Extraordinary You today. UGH I WISH THIS ENTIRE SHOW WAS TRUMPET CREEPERRR

Okay maybe not. Self-aware Jooda had me ROLLING. Do-Hwa’s precious face at the end had my heart beating on the floor (God this guy has the best facial expressions)

Something tells me Jooda’s going to be a playa playa and toy with both Namjoo and Dohwa’s hearts for her own benefit (WE STAN A TWO TIMING GOLD-DIGGING CANDY) Ugh what I don’t get is why they’re bringing in this plotline so late into the game, when we could’ve had this gem 4 episodes ago. I can’t fathom how they’re going to wrap up this in 3 episodes with so many strings hanging.

I love DanHaru but for some reason they’re getting way too childish and bouncy for me. All they do is make cheesy moony eyes at each other, and for some reason their chemistry isn’t coming across as genuine as it used to. Hye Yoon can pull off extreme aegyo MOST TIMES, but with Rowoon it’s just cringy maaaan. Give me more heartfelt moments like the ones at the end of Episode 8 and 10. I like them best when they’re heartfelt and calmly enjoying each other’s presence. Or maybe I’m too old for this, LOL.

Less noble idiocy. Less alpha male love triangle nonsense. More genuine DanHaru conversations instead of cutesy fluff. And always, always, MORE DOHWA.

Also, am I crazy for STILL FAILING TO HATE BAEK KYUNG? I just…I just understand his selfish, messed up intentions, and I find them SO fascinating. Everyone expects a self-aware character to WANT to make their own fate and break out of their mould. But Baek Kyung doesn’t. Here’s a guy who doesn’t have the capacity to explore what he is beyond his set-up, unlike everyone else, and refuses to believe that the Stage is fake, because that’s all he’s known his entire life. And why *should* the Stage be fake? After all, those are the events that ACTUALLY take place in their universe, not the measly happenings of the Shadow that no one else remembers. He’s willingly submitted himself to the writer’s whim, and can’t fathom how someone who’s been created by that same writer, has feelings of her own.

I do agree that the show spends way too much time getting us to sympathize with him instead of focusing on other characters (*ahem*DoHwa*ahem*) but I like what his character brings to the show.

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    Yoooo… I haven’t even watched today’s episode yet and I’m feeling all of this. I was thinking about it today – how the pacing of the show has slowed to a crawl the past two weeks, focusing on Haru and Dan oh maybe a little too much without any forward momentum anywhere else.

    Don’t even get me started on Kyung. I could talk about him and how he’s the most compelling character for daaayyys.

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    Finally, someone who feels the same way as me about Kyung. Now I don’t feel too weird for being able to sympathize and understand him well. I think he is the most fascinating character in that drama, even if I don’t like many of his choices.

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What the hell was that

– EY episode 13

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“She’s pretty, awesome, and successful. I’m no match.”
“Hey, don’t be ridiculous. No matter how pretty or awesome she may be, you’re younger than her”
— Melting Me Softly Episode 14

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My man comes back from the military with a \”dope discharge congratz\” WE STAN THE RIGHT GUY HAHAHA


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Dope discharge… congratz!!!
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Aaaahhhhhhhhhhh

Before anyone continues, Episode 12 minor spoilers

Going to make a more detailed post later but just dropping in to say that with 4 more episodes to go Extraordinary You has been AMAZING.

Just like I wanted, we’re now focusing on Danoh’s terminal illness, and the sageuk storyline is slowly coming to a wrap.

It felt abrupt to have our E3 back in the game after Danoh being so hesitant to change things for so long, but since I wanted it so bad I’ll forgive the awkward transition.

ALSO MORE SELF-AWARE JOODA PLEASE. We didn’t have enough of thattt

Baek Kyung is a wonderful antagonist.

Yes Webtoon BK was nicer and less aggressive, but to be honest it makes perfect sense for him to be possessive over Danoh, since they’re the couple that’s meant to be. I understand his reasons for clinging onto her when all he’s ever known is her chasing after him.

Gah, love me some star crossed lover angst. This is probably the best kind I’ve seen

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Alright, alright. We’re back to regular programming. I.e. obsessing over the crackfest that is Extraordinary You

Last week’s episodes didn’t cut it for me, but this week, I think I’m back to wholeheartedly loving this show. Somehow the tone struck just right for me, and I’m finally on board with Eun Danoh’s choice to make the most of her last days.

Also love love LOVED the sageuk portion

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    It put a lot into perspective, didn’t it?

    Also, not only is the writer lazy, they are kind of a douchebag. My heart is breaking for what these characters they created are going through.

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      It’s the saddest thing :'(

      I almost laughed cynically when they made Kyung’s father and stepmother’s wedding anniversary the same day as his mother’s death anniversary. Like OF COURSE he got married right away, it’s such a manhwa cliché, but you don’t realize how much it must’ve hurt Kyung.

      The repetition of storylines, especially by the same writer, makes SO MUCH SENSE even irl. I remember when Are You Human Too was airing, some people were saying how the plot is like a modern day sageuk, which wasn’t surprising considering the screenwriter wrote The Princess’s Man previously.

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        But you know what doesn’t make sense, the math. Or maybe it does. His stepbrother is what 15, 16 years old. So that is also eluding to the fact that Dad and Stepmom where involved before his Mother died and the Stepbrother was born and had infant and toddler years before her death.

        Or were his parents divorced by then and that is how he was able to marry on the day she died.

        See, douchebag.

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        I understood it as they were on the same “day” but not the same “year” (the father got remarried later on and it happened to be on the anniversary of the mom’s death). But yeah, of course, the father was so eager to erase BK’s mom that he got married then. And he has the nerve to get mad at BK’s reaction.

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    I loved last week’s episodes! But I also think this week has cranked everything up to 11. My heart is breaking for Dan-oh and Haru, and this weird repetition stuff is dredging up so much vicarious existential anxiety. Is their love real if it’s all just a repetition of what happened before? Dan-oh is really eager to disclaim the stuff that happened during the stage because she says she had no control over it and so it wasn’t her; but, by the same logic, if everything she has with Haru is preordained, then isn’t it all fake as well? The deeply ironic thing here is that Kyung and Haru may not have very different relationships with Dan-oh in this sense.

    I love the stuff with Joo-da. Hopefully, something breaks in the story and both of our aware couples (Haru and Dan-oh; Do-hwa and Joo-da) get to be together. I also love that she’s dumping that that lousy arrogant dirt-bag Nam-joo. Serves his entitled ass right.

    For me, this drama is just hitting all of the bases right now. The acting is great (seriously, Hye-yoon is an amazing actress and Rowoon is a pretty good actor as well, plus all the supporting characters – especially Jae-wook! – are clearly showing their chops), the chemistry crackles, the episodes are a good combination of light-hearted and emotional, the characters are well-written and portrayed, and the plot is mostly cohesive. The show is also hitting on deep ideas and I feel like there are many scenes in this drama where the only word I can use to describe what the show is ‘beautiful’.

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It’s not even close to the sensuality and passion that characterize kdrama kisses today, but this will still go down as one of my favorite kiss scenes of all time.

I don’t know what it is about it that makes my heart hum with warmth.

Their inexperience and innocence just radiates off the screen and I think that’s what makes it so special.

Drama kisses have become so mechanical and choreographed, so when you have two rookie actors, neither of whom have mastered the art of onscreen kissing yet, you get young love in its most raw and natural form.

I’ve never seen a kiss where both actors are equally naive to the kdrama kissing business. Usually the rookie of the two (mostly female) will be paired with an older or more experienced partner who knows what he’s doing and will take on more of the weight (e.g. every single actor paired with Kim So Hyun *no shade intended*)

Although I know Rowoon has kissed on-screen before, he still wasn’t experienced enough to completely take the reins on this one. They both pulled their weight equally and evidently gave it their best. The outcome, although imperfect, was nothing short of organic and heartwarming.

GAH, just look at my wittle babies. So precious.

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Getting my Extra You criticism out of the way before bed so I can sleep on it and go back to loving the show when I wake up:

I think the one thing I really learn to do is to stop holding kdramas to such high expectations. Gah can you blame a girl when they show you what they can be and then fail to keep up that potential?

I pretty much predicted that Danoh would slowly shed her fiesty and autonomy-craving persona as the series progressed. It’s a kdrama rule at this point that a female lead can never retain her individuality when she falls in love as her world starts to revolve around the male lead thereon after. I was hoping we wouldn’t get to see that here because of how refreshingly determined Danoh was in the beginning, but I don’t think we’ll be getting that Danoh back.

I understand that she’s given up on changing the stage, but she’s not even remotely interested in the workings of her world anymore. The one person who started this entire movement is no longer at its forefront, having been replaced by two brawling males who see the stage as a battleground to establish their dominance

What happened to Danoh and Haru against the world together?

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    I think it is because the lines and story are coming from the Jesoen comic that the cook burnt. Haru is having the memories now and Do hwa was talking alot about subconscious. That conversation, to me, is gonna be important down the last stretch. Dan oh and Kyung , I believe, are gonna start having those memories as well.

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    I can’t even remember why I liked her in the first place. Kyung is still a handsome interesting jerk though. Haru could go and come back dozens of times and I’d not care.

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      LMAOOOO DONT HURT ME LIKE THIS

      I think Danoh and Haru make a great couple and I’ve really enjoyed the progression of their romance.

      BUT Baek Kyung fascinates me to no end and was the more interesting part of this episode ngl. LJW is killing it and idc if he turns evil or not, just watching his derailment and moral dilemma was awesome

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    Kyung’s the only one still trying to puzzle everything out. He’s definitely not to be underestimated. His brain wheels be tuuuuuurning.

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      That’s true! I realized how Haru isn’t doing much either, but he at least has more of an idea through his flashbacks. Maybe there’s good reason they’re keeping Danoh in the dark for now – because whatever happened might’ve involved her the most and she’s the final piece of the puzzle.

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    You know, the original premise in the manhwa was that she wanted to change the story, but then she found Haru and she focused her entire energy on making the best out of their limited time together, and making the best out of the situation they were handled. And I am ok with that. It was realistic and relatable. By setting up the premise here as Dan Oh trying to change her fate, and then suddenly kinda forgot about it, it really makes Dan Oh seem less consistent :/ sigh. Kdrama, the highs are really high and the lows are really lows lol

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      Oooh now that you mention that I don’t feel as mad about this. I did read the manhwa first and I remember how she went from just a rebel to a rebel with a cause after she found Haru because their ‘rebellion’ would be trying to spend time together, which, like you said, is more realistic.

      I think the reason why they emphasized on the fate-changing part here is because they wanted to avoid the insta-love trope that was used in the manhwa. Danoh met Haru with the sole purpose of finding her own love interest, but I think they didn’t want drama Danoh to prioritize love to that extent, and have another purpose to work towards. So she stalked Haru because he was the key to changing her fate.

      It’s an interesting change which I actually quite appreciate because I’ve enjoyed the slow progression of their romance so far.

      I totally agree with you on the inconsistency, and while I get her reasons for abandoning her mission because (a) there’s no point and (b) it caused her lose Haru last time, the fact that she was portrayed as so driven in the beginning causes these recent developments to make her character look so fickle.

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    To be honest, the drama is starting to show its cracks the more it strays from the original webtoon. In a way, Danoh’s world also revolved around Haru in the webtoon, but it was understandable because Haru was a true insignificant extra without a name nor anyone with him. Even when he came back as a named extra, he was so insignificant that he might as well have not come back. But in the manhwa in the drama, they’re gradually making his role much bigger, from Baek Kyung’s lackey to potentially usurping the latter’s role. I don’t know, I think I liked it much better how desperate their relationship felt in the webtoon because they barely had time together (did they even have screen time together in Heads?), and they learned to treasure their moments in a place as mundane as their secret hideout in the library. And because of that, I found their love story much more meaningful and sweeter in the webtoon. I just don’t feel moved in the drama especially now that there’s a star-crossed aspect to their romance with the sageuk manhwa.

    Ugh I hate that Haru and Baek Kyung are fighting over her. There’s barely a love triangle in the webtoon, and it robs us of much better and poignant scenes of Haru and Baek Kyung working together for her, Baek Kyung and Danoh actually being friends and bonding over their loneliness and shared memories together (I still like drama Baek Kyung but I want webtoon Baek Kyung back!), and Haru being understanding and even smiling for Danoh when Heads forces her and Baek Kyung together.

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    I think that’s my biggest critic of Extraordinary You. In the first episodes, Dan Oh was very proactive about figuring out what the hell was going out and the inner workings of this new world. This side of her completely disappeared once she fell for Haru.

    I am not saying we need to get rid of the fluff but you can have cute scenes while still working together to figure out how the comic works and how it might be changed.

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    I hope they’re not trolling us and this isn’t a stage, I don’t think it is but if it is I’ll be flipping some tables!

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