Beanie level: Noble idiot

IU’s concert was amazing, she’s such an INCREDIBLE performer! She even sang a medley of Hotel Del Luna OSTs. It was truly a magical 3 and a half hours ✨💕

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OMG YOU GUYS I\’M FINALLY BACK ON DB and let me tell you, I had the WILDEST two weeks… Two Sundays ago I was hospitalised out of nowhere and it turned out that I had appendicitis, so I had to go for surgery to get my appendix removed. The surgery went well, and I’m healing up nicely, but I had to deal with this awful situation of my college basically telling me to go screw myself for getting ill… I missed a submission deadline because of my surgery and they only gave me four days to finish the paper and submit it after I was discharged from the hospital on Thursday afternoon (even though my post-hospitalisation leave technically only ends today!). They also refused to let me reschedule an exam I had last Tuesday (4 days after I got out of the hospital), so I spent basically the first few days back at home just doing ridiculous school stuff. I ended up going for my exam with my bandages and everything. It was the worst. Since then I’ve just been resting and getting back to my normal self.

I’m so glad to be back on here, and I have a LOT to catch up on. I hope everyone’s been well! It’s finally December and Christmas is so close 💖

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    That’s crazy! I hope your school things get settled well. How they expect you to show up while you are sick is nuts! Hope you recover well, too!🙂

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    Welcome back! I can’t believe your school didn’t let you rest a bit more! Hope you are doing well now!

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    I hope your exams/school stuff are settled and you can rest happily now~ 😊

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    Yikes ! Hope you’re recovering well now… Get well soon !

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    That’s crazy! College should be more flexible when it comes to health. Rest well!

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    Oh my. Sorry to hear you had a hard 2 weeks. Glad to have you back. Take care.

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    It’s unbelievable that they demanded that, such jerks! You’re a superhero, sitting for an exam a few days after having surgery! Glad that you’re having a good recovery💪

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    So sorry to hear you went through the medical emergency. I can’t believe your school was not more understanding about your condition and the situation! I do hope you are recovering well and resting now. Take care and welcome back!

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    get well soon!!!

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    Ahhh Excited to finally see you here again!!! College professors can sadly be very unreasonable at times!!
    Wish you the best with regards to your health !!!❤❤

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    I hope you have time to rest and make a full recovery.

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    thank you @pbnjelly513, @gmelenco, @katakwasabi, @halfmoon, @mango, @msrabbit, @flyingcolours, @korfan, @raekaddict, @bluewaters20, @ndlessjoie everyone for all your well wishes and kind words ♥️

    It was frustrating and a big challenge for sure, but I’m glad it’s over and that I’m doing better now. I’m planning on giving feedback to the school about my whole ordeal in the hope that they’ll review the system they have in place and improve it so that other students who face similar problems won’t have to go through what I did!

    That aside, I hope you all stay healthy and happy this holiday season 💕

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      I’m glad to know you’re doing better 😀 I hope your school will listen to you for future students well being.

      Thank you!

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      Happy to know you are doing better and also it’s a very smart and thoughtful decision to give feedback. Hopefully it will help save many others from having to go through the same thing!! 💜🖤

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      @choijunu So glad to know you’re doing better! Like the others here have mentioned, I also hope your school takes your feedback into account and makes the necessary changes. Have a good holiday season also!

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Where is everyone right now on the plot of Trumpet Creeper? If I remember correctly, we know from the script that Prince Kyung has the title Daegun (대군) (correct me if I\’m wrong, because it could just be Gun). This means, as we know, that his mother was Queen Consort before her death (murder?).

After the death of the King, it was Jinmichae who ascended the throne as the first-born son of the King (despite being the son of a lower-ranked consort) instead of Kyung.

Prince Kyung believes he has rightful claim to the throne and is using Danoh, the daughter of prominent court official Eun Mooyoung, to gain favour within the court in order to eventually dethrone his half brother and become King.

Haru is Kyung\’s right-hand man (military ranked, but probably not the captain of the guard, since that role would be reserved for one of the King\’s men), who basically does whatever the Prince asks of him.

The big question now: What could Danoh\’s role in the story be beyond being Kyung\’s wife-to-be, and why did that eventually lead her to her death? Can characters die in the Shadow, or did she die as part of her Stage which Haru was trying (but failed) to change?

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    In Secret, Dan Oh’s character was set to die from a heart disease. Since Flower is a historical manhwa, it’s not surprising if Dan Oh was set to die on stage too. To prevent Kyung from ascending the throne, someone gave the order to kill Dan Oh. Was it Jinmichae to protect the throne or someone else? Maybe the concubine?

    Nam Ju’s family business looks like a parallel to the Kyung’s royal family. I’m not sure if it’s just a mere ressemblance because of the manhwa writer’s laziness (LOL) or if it’s a hint. Nam Joo competes with his brother to inherit the family business like Kyung did in Flower.

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      Maybe the concubine? Jinmichae doesn’t seem like the kind of character to do that, and right now the only antagonists are Kyung and Namju/Jinmichae’s mother.

      Jinmichae seems to think it’s the writer’s laziness/lack of creativity that’s responsible for the similar set-ups, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it were really that 😂 It’s interesting to me that in Secret, death is a very visible thing for Danoh, whereas in Flower, it seems to be one of those surprise tragic twists.

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Dohwa continues to be a scene stealer for me. This violin running joke is meta comedy GOLD.

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LOL, can we get a whole sub-series full of grumpy HaruKyung moments? 😂 #ExtraordinaryShip

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These beautiful shots are making my heart explode ♥️

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These writers know exactly how to make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

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@extraordinary writers, WHEN will you let Kyung redeem himself?! I\’m on here every week defending him like an idiot, have some compassion.

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    I really hope soon, by next episode, at least hints of redemption! I liked that little Dan-oh/Baek Kyung moment so maybe!

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      I love that little moment when they sit beside each other. And also when she teasingly ‘tattled’ on him to his mom. Writer-nim, I need Kyung to redeem himself soon. Preferably in tomorrow eps.

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        yesss this week’s moment where they sat on the bench and he could just sit and smile for a while was so good. I need MORE.

        and side note but it was interesting to hear Kyung himself say, “you’re all I have” to Danoh because that’s been one of my biggest explanations for his behaviour 😂 I hope the writers are kind for the rest of the drama!

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    Idk, at this point im rooting for him to go full crazy. Let Jaewookie flex his acting chops! For Kyung redemption, I’ll re-read the webtoon for the nth time 😂😂

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      Why do I feel like he’s getting webtoon Dohwa’s arc instead? His trying to find out what happened in the sageuk manhwa and possibly learning how much wrong he did to the characters there reminds me of Dohwa learning how he’s connected to Juda’s trauma and how his family wronged hers.

      Lol I’ve been rereading the webtoon a lot these past weeks too.

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        agree. same thought.. drama has put all “Drama” in this extra love triangle..

        main love triangle has become about showing candy being truly an awesome strong lady and second lead getting his happy ending

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      I’m trying to avoid finding out what happened in the manhwa in case it colours my expectations for the drama, so I won’t read this thread yet, but I hope you guys are having a fun discussion 😹😹

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IS IT JUST ME OR WAS ROSWOON EXTRA SWOONY TODAY???

Also Dohwa is literally me, LOL.

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    HAHAHAHA DO HWA

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    look at DH.. man should be like that..

    so happy even if his love of life has exited his life, he has given to faith, he knows he has no free will, .. lol.. he is so funny and happy version of sombre squid fairy

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hi beanies!! how is everyone? daily life is kind of keeping me away from db at the moment. I miss being on here 🙁

while I remember—does anyone have kbs drama special recs?

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    2018 ones – Review notebook of my embarrasing days, The long goodbye.

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    I hope you will soon find time to hang out on db!

    Here’s a list of drama specials per year:

    2014 – The Three Female Runaways, We All Cry Differently, You’re Pretty Oh Manbok, The Dirge Singer, Youth, Middle School Student A, Bride in Sneakers

    2015 – What is the Ghost Up To?, Live Shock, The Brothers’ Summer, Avici

    2016 – The Legendary Lackey, Explicit Innocence,Summer Dream

    2017 – Waltzing Alone, Buzzcut Love, The Last Week of Madam Jung , If We Were a Season, Bad Families

    2018 – Forgotten Season, Dreamers, So Close Yet So Far, Too Bright for Romance

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      I loved The Legendary Lackey and The Dirge Singer.

      A few other favorites of mine: Adolescence Medley (2013, known as Puberty Medley on Youtube), The True Colors of Kang and Cheol (2012), Let Us Meet (2017).

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        Adolescence Medley of course! I forgot to mention it. Let Us Meet was all kind of cute. I haven’t watched The True Colors of Kang and Cheol yet.

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          True Colors is fun! I think it’s 4 episodes long, so it feels more like a mini drama.

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        thanks for the recs, I’ll check them out once I’m on christmas break ♡♡♡

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        oooh i really liked if we were a season, also just saw Bride in Sneakers last week

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      thank you @mango

      do you have any particular favourites?

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        All of the drama specials I mentioned are among my favourite but if I had to choose a few if would be Brothers’ Summer, The Three Female Runaways, The Legendary Lackey, Forgotten Season, Dreamers and Waltzing Alone. Baek Hee Has Returned is a four episodes drama special with feel good vibes and very entertaining.

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@lindag the way you were absolutely on the money with the Joker… amazing!!!

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OMG @saner @bluewaters20 @gadis @wishfultoki HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THE PICS OF LWE JAEWOOK DRESSED IN HISTORICAL CLOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

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oof, I’m so close to such lovely even numbers!

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Also, now that we\’ve had a proper look at Historical!Haru, I can say for sure that he\’s most definitely not in Joseon clothing. Heck, I don\’t think it\’s Korean clothing, period. (No pun intended 😂)

The sleeves, collar and buttons on his robe are nothing like what we\’ve seen on men from the Silla Kingdom, Goryeo or Joseon. I think Historical!Haru must\’ve been a Korean delegate who had been working in China, who later returned to Korea and fell in love with Historical!Danoh.

Period-wise, I\’m going to guess Silla, rather than Joseon, because Historical!Danoh\’s hair and clothing don\’t quite square with what we\’re used to seeing on unmarried upper class Joseon women (short jeogori, or upper garment, with a full chima, or skirt + a long braid and ribbon) like Goo Haeryung.

Of course, I could be wrong about Silla, but I\’m feeling it more than Goryeo just because we can see here in this scene from Hwarang, Sooyeon\’s outfit has a similar cinched waist and modest sleeve to that of Historical!Danoh\’s.

This is pretty different from the type of outfits we saw Soo dressed in throughout Moon Lovers, which tended to have these beautiful, billowing trumpet sleeves.

Thoughts?

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    I thought it was just straight up Ancient China (although I’m not too familiar with its periods ^^”) but now that you pointed it out, I’m sure it is Silla period.

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      I thought Ancient China too ‘cos of Haru’s clothing! I still think it could be both, but I could also be overthinking this majorly 😂

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        I would like to give the webtoon Writer the benefit of the doubt and say it may be a mix of Silla and Chinese clothing too 😂😂 But yeahhh we might be getting ahead of ourselves 😂

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    Waah You’ve done your research!!
    I don’t know much about ancient korea but from the little Joseon era dramas that I’ve watched I agree that this doesn’t look Joseon era!

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      yeaaaah, Joseon had a lot of pretty fixed rules/customs re: clothing, so it’s safe to say it’s not Joseon!

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    I think it’s Silla, the webtoon writer in the drama isn’t that detailed to take it to China 😂

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      I’m sure it’s set in Korea, but I’m still hoping (for the sake of my love for historical accuracy) that there’s some reasonable explanation for why Haru’s costume is more Chinese than Korean, hahaha 😂😂😂

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    I’m curious about their background or status in Silla era! I want to believe that she’s a princess, but her outfit lack details if she is the one, but also the fabric looks to fancy to be lowly (or probably the author lack in drawing details). Also if she were a princess, she is most likely to betrothed to her siblings.

    As for Haru, he is quite fishy since he doesn’t have surname (I believe so), he could be either from China or maybe mercenary? Hwarang members?

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      I think the chances of her being a princess are pretty high because the set-up would be very classic: royal princess falls for a man that, as princess, she would never be allowed to marry, and they have to fight for their love until they meet their tragic end (or something like that).

      Clothing-wise, one explanation could be that she’s outside palace when she’s not supposed to be, and she’s wearing her “normal people” disguise 😂😂😂

      I’m convinced that with Haru, there has to be SOMETHING that explains his Chinese-style hair and outfit. Mercenary is a really good guess, and it could explain his scar—injured in battle maybe?

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    Thanks for doing the research! I have a theory: it’s not any historical period that we know of, just a fantasy historical world somewhere.

    At first the clues pointed towards Joseon, with Sae-mi exclaiming “You must be from Joseon!” when Haru aced the Korean test. However, he looks nothing like a Joseon man (no gat for instance). Moreover, Hangul was not invented until the Joseon period, so Haru would not have been able to read it if he came from Goryeo or before; he’d be familiar with Chinese characters. (Otherwise, he’s a geeeeeenius scholar who picked up Hangul quickly because it’s relatively easier). Sloppy writing by the comic writer? I wouldn’t be surprised.

    As far as Dan-oh’s appearance, I thought her hair looked a lot like Hae-Soo in MOON LOVERS, and even Haru’s dark robe reminds me of Wang So. For instance, this image:

    Is this a coincidence? Two tragic lovers, one of them a time traveler and a water maid, and the other a prince? It’s also a drama that left us raging and clamoring for a rewrite. Could the comic writer be a scarred Moon Lovers fan? (I jest, but maybe not).

    In conclusion, I think your Silla guess is a good one, though I wouldn’t rule out alternative-universe Goryeo or even Baekje, which had considerable trade with China and Japan.

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      oooh, that’s a great theory too, and it would allow the writer to get away with not being 100% historically accurate 😂😂😂

      The language point is a really good one too, and I didn’t think of that before! I think with knowing hangul, that’s something that anyone who entered the Secret world would be able to do since I’m sure every character would be equipped with the most basic functions (common language being one of them?).

      In terms of Chinese characters, though, I went back to look at the scene and guess what: there WAS some Hanja involved in that test!

      If the writer was an angry Moon Lovers fan… 😂😂😂 (I don’t blame them.) But yes, I think Baekje and Goryeo are most definitely possibilities, because there’s so little we know now and there are overlaps between all these eras. I’m excited to see how it all turns out! We’re getting closer now…

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        Ooooh sharp eyes! I can’t see very well… are the questions on the test in Hangul and Haru answered using Chinese characters?

        I actually like your theory that he’s from ancient China. The bamboo flute playing first struck me as something from a Chinese wuxia anyway. He may be a prince who was held hostage for a long time in China and had just returned to the Korean peninsula… Or he’s actually a Chinese envoy. Forbidden love to the max.

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          You can see it a bit better here:

          I think the questions are a mixture of hangul and hanja, and seem to mostly require answers in hanja!

          He may be a prince who was held hostage for a long time in China and had just returned to the Korean peninsula… Or he’s actually a Chinese envoy. Forbidden love to the max.

          Yep, this is exactly what I was thinking! He was living/working in China, returned to Korea and fell in love with Historical!Danoh, who loves in him return against the wishes of her family!

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            Cool, thank you! I guess we’ll find out soon, hopefully!
            Tbh I wasn’t expecting a historical sub-plot in EXTRAORDINARY YOU, but if done well it can give the show more emotional depth (and probably wring tears from us).

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    Apparently my mind isn’t the only one who jumped to ‘Ancient China’ the moment I saw Haru in that outfit. I thought it was simply because I’ve watched too many c-dramas lately, but you’re right that his outfit really didn’t match any of the usual male outfit from sageuk. But anyway, he looks so mesmerizing. 😍😍

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      He does 😍 I’m a sucker for period clothing (period anything, tbh) so I’m just waiting for us to get more clear shots of the world in Flower/Trumpet Creeper so I can make Historical!Haru my new dp ❤️

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His little she\’s on my mind whisper 😍

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A3 who?? Petition to officially start calling these dorks our E3 ♡





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Once again, I am avoiding the Beanies tab for fear of Extraordinary spoilers (only had time for Camellia today) but I hope everyone has a good restful start to the weekend today ♥️

I’m looking forward to waking up tomorrow, making some toast and blessing my Saturday morning with some Roswoon 😍

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    Also stay away from youtube that is if you watch a lot of Extraordinary You clips

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I miss Rookie Historian 🙁

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    Me too

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      I watched some of my favourite clips earlier today while I was commuting and they just reminded me of how much I actually loved watching the drama every week.

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        I know hey. It was just so stinkin’ cute

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Extraordinary You Ep 7: Seeing Danoh so distraught was heartbreaking. Poor girl! I don’t blame her though. One minute you have Roswoon smiling at you and holding your hand, and the next minute he vanishes into thin air. And then he comes back but instead of directing his swoon-worthy smile at you, he’s giving it to BAEK KYUNG instead? The audacity… (jk)

I’m a Kyung apologist (I know, I KNOW, bear with me) and I’m still holding on to the hope that he will stop with the uncalled for abrasiveness. Like I mentioned in some comments, I think that he’s become so used to lashing out on the stage, that his angry/bad boy/jerk persona has become a kind of second nature that he has to “unlearn” as he spends more time ‘awake’ in the shadow.

It’s also possible that he relies on whatever deep-rooted anger he’s used to feeling because of how much his own set-up makes him angry/upset. He mentioned several times in the episode how wrong it is to him that him and Danoh are just being used by their parents, and I’m sure that the reveal that his mother’s death was just a device to give his character a typical “unfortunate past” must have been absolutely awful for him.

Plus, unlike Danoh/Dohwa/pre-disappearance Haru, who all had some kind of orientation/initiation when they became self-aware—someone to talk them through what was happening/how everything worked—Kyung largely had to figure it out on his own, and may still be finding his feet/deciding what to do now that he has this self-awareness. Again, none of this justifies his bad behaviour! I guess I just feel more willing to sympathise with him this way.

Also I haven’t watched anything from Ep 8 or seen any behind the scenes stuff, but Historical Haru and Danoh didn’t actually look like they were in Joseon, judging by Haru‘s hairstyle and clothing. They look a lot more like the kind of topknot and high collared garment worn in China during the Ming dynasty.

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    The way they’re dressed in the sageuk manhwa actually reminded me of Hwarang, so I think they’re from the Shilla Dynasty(i’m not a korean history expert..)?

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    Ok so many people have been wondering why Do Hwa’s personality is the same in the shadow as on stage while Dan Oh’s deviates a lot and like I mentioned in the recap this is totally explainable by Gadis’s theory that characters who are main/supporting have had a more vigorous character development so they have little power however extra characters like Dan Oh and pre-Haru have little (or none in the case of Haru) pre-set personality so they can experience and decide what they truly like for themselves. I think, this explains the best why Baek Kyung is still a jerk even in the shadow and even when he’s aware now!
    Honestly I totally expected that Baek Kyung will have a redemption arc and that he’ll actually be nice or “not a jerk” when he’s aware thus making it difficult for us as the viewers to choose between Haru and him and so I am pleasantly surprised that the writer (of the drama 😂) is taking a different route!

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      Yup, this makes a lot of sense. I wrote in another comment on the most recent recap posted that characters like Danoh and Haru have the freedom to kind of do whatever they want and go wherever they want, i.e. Haru can go to the movies, Danoh can go shopping with Saemi, etc. Kyung and Dohwa, on the other hand, basically do nothing beyond the little bubbles the writer has created for them. I mean, the two of them are (were? sorry Dohwa 😂) supposedly members of A3 together, but we never see them hanging out with each other just for fun, save from those throwaway scenes where they just sat down together, not really actually talking/being friends. They live very one-dimensional lives, so it’s probably a lot harder for them to break out of those moulds.

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        Yess!! its like how in the latest episode dried squid fairy says that its worse to turn into an extra with a setup from a mere nameless extra!!

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Camellia Ep 11: I don’t think whoever Hyangmi was talking to in the dark alley was Heungshik. She called him ahjusshi, and when I went back to Ep 3 to check, she called Heungshik by his given name. I’ve seen a few people pitch the idea of co-perpetrators or accomplices, which is definitely plausible. Heungsik could be the underling of whoever Joker actually is.

This could be a reach but might he even have been the person who set off the sprinklers when Dongbaek was in danger? Could it be that he knew Joker planned to murder the aesthetician (maybe they planned it together) but later heard that Dongbaek had gone to the parlour with her, and decided to stop Joker from making a kill that wasn’t planned in case anything went wrong and put their identities at risk?

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    I also think Heungshik is a red herring. He may also be totally innocent and genuinely love to feed strayed cat. Someone else poison the cat food.

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      Yeah this is definitely completely possible too! We’re still only halfway through, so anything could happen.

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      That could be. Which husband was it that lent HM money and the wife got mad when she found out about it? We never did find out what that was all about.

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        That was one of the ahjummas’ husband. I don’t think we met him yet. I have a feeling the real culprit is someone we already know though. Otherwise, the show won’t be able to give us that ah-hah! moment. 😉

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          I want to think it’s someone we know, too, but then again, the killer seems to be one of the older men in Ongsan (going off how Hyangmi called him ahjusshi), none of whom we know that well other than Gyutae and Chief Byun. We know it’s not Gyutae because Dongbaek would never welcome him into Camellia or offer him peanuts on the house. Gyutae and the Chief are also prominent in the neighbourhood, and wouldn’t be able to get away with skulking around in alleyways at night, since they would be recognised immediately and be called by name.

          Based on those points, I think it’s more likely to be someone whom we might recognise if he passed by, but someone without any prominent screentime or focus yet.

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        I think she borrowed money from the husband of the ahjumma who sells rices cakes (played by Kim Mihwa) to pay off whatever debt she owes to that thug Nakho (having not watched ep 12 yet, I don’t think the show has gone into detail about what exactly she needs all that money for).

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