Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

OMG @yyishere – is this your cameo appearance on #BeMelodramatic?

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    That hair is good for running errands. Very slick.

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Part of me dreads @yyishere making it to the Rooftop before we find out whether Hot Cold CEO makes it out alive.

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    He has a fighting chance at this point in the story.

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    I hope he makes it out alive! I don’t understand why he has to suffer so much, especially these days she’s been a lot meaner to him, she’s losing her temper!

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      She’s losing her last thread of sanity.

      Poor Hot Cold CEO, I hope when this is all over he will trip and fall on the lips of some soft hearted but plucky genius doctor who can help him heal.

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        He’s got a girlfriend. But I’m not sure if he loves her or it’s the arranged kind of thingy…

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          of course the girlfriend could be the Errand Girl Boy’s long-lost sister

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      Do you want him to fall in love with her? Is it plausible?

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        The only way it’s plausible, is if it’s all elaborate cosplay and they have a safeword.

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        No! Not after all she’s done to him!
        I want him to be a secret agent sent to you by DB to see how far you’re willing to go for that rooftop room!

        Like a test all Errand Boy/Girls go through for reaching the next level!

        Do you think him just suddenly almost running you over was a coincidence, nope, something bigger, larger than anything you could imagine is underway!

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    The last chapter ended with : He closes his eyes.

    I assume the worst and hot CEO is not going to wake up 😥.

    And errand boy girl goes into hiding, since she’s now a murder suspect. She decides to run away from Korea and paraglide into North Korea but ended up in Mongolia. There she’ll find a hot army officer victim who looks similar to Hyun Bin. EBG and HB-lookalike goes on a journey together on a scooter and they will go to Switzerland. The story continues from there.

    Hahaha

    What do you think @yyishere 😂

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      I melted. Seriously. I just saw a black-and-white pic of Hyun bin and Soh Yejin…They’re heading to Mongolia tomorrow….♥️♥️♥️♥️

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    I think the only way Hot Cold CEO makes it out alive is to become mentally unstable and end up in a locked ward somehow.
    But then many Errand Boy Girl gets a job at said institution – oh nononononono

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Someone pointed out that this week is palindrome week. I couldn\’t figure it out, but then realised that they used American date formats. Today is 9.11.19.

Happy Palindrome Week math-loving beanies!

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#MondayMakjang Take Two – this time without any inappropriate words

I’m fascinated by family secrets, by what people choose to tell to others and what they choose to keep silent. But what if it’s not a secret but purely knowledge that hasn’t been shared?

That’s what happened in my family.

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    During the second world war my grandfather (my mother’s father) was in the resistance and he distributed newspapers that were sharing news of the Allied victories. Clearly illegal at the time. A year before the war ended, he was arrested but he miraculously survived and made it back home. When I wrote my second novel, I dedicated it to my grandfather’s memory, mentioning what he’d done. I sent a copy to my mother and waited for her to call me to thank me for doing that.

    The call never came.

    I thought the book must have been delayed in the post and she just hadn’t seen it. When I talked to her the next week, I asked if the book had arrived and if she’d liked the dedication. She told me she’d seen it, but that she had no idea what I was talking about. She said that they never knew why my grandfather had been arrested, he’d never told anybody why, and so she had no idea why I would have written that he’d worked for an illegal newspaper.

    To say that I was shocked would have been an understatement. For a horrible two days, I wondered if I’d made it all up (which was of course possible).

    Then I spoke to my father, who at first had loathed to disagree with my mother but at last admitted that he knew about the newspaper too. As did my brother. By this stage, my mother was getting quite upset: if everybody knew, then why didn’t she? We were talking about her father, telling her things that she, as his child, had never been told.

    She didn’t believe us.

    Finally, she picked up the phone to her cousin, who was a decade older than her. During the war, my mother had only been a child but her cousin had been eighteen when the war ended and far more aware of what was happening. The cousin confirmed that yes, this was what my grandfather had been doing and yes, this was why they had arrested him.

    My mother is left with the question of why she was the only person in the family who didn’t know this ‘secret’. All we could think of was that after it happened, when my grandfather first returned after a year, it was too horrifying for him to talk about it, but when the grandchildren arrived he could tell it as an exciting heroic story of survival. A therapist friend of mine suggested another answer: my mother had been in the house when my grandfather was arrested and for her it might have been so traumatic that she repressed that memory and everything to do with it. Yup, amnesia.

    I think my mother is happy that she now knows, especially as her cousin died a month after this all happened. Still, it’s tinged with sadness that it’s too late to have asked her father about it.

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      I am racking my brain to think of a Theme of the Month this can be submitted to. It was beautiful. I loved reading it so much.

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        There should be a Theme of theme Month titled, “That [trope] happened to me!” I’m sure most of these soon to be posted stories would make it.

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      This is fascinating, and very makjang if indeed your mother had selective amnesia!!!
      May I ask what country are you from?

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        I’m from the Netherlands.

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          Ah. I figured somewhere round there.
          Maxing that he made it back home.

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            How he made it back home is another truly amazing story. In fact, so weird that I didn’t believe it and had to look up that this stuff had really happened.

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            A lot of those WWII stories are batshit crazy and I know several of them so I’m not surprised. Would love to hear it one day though!!!!
            (also what kind of bookses have thee written?)

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            It’s a very long story….

            And to answer your second question, I write crime fiction (but am currently working on a story where the OTP are a woman and her online friends)

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            @cloggie if u dont mind, can u share your book title please?

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      Wow. How interesting! Glad your mum is in a happy place now?

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      I can imagine a drama plot from your story. It is so beautiful.

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      It’s weird how selective amnesia really does happen to young children… Over the past several years I have found out many non secret facts about my family that I never knew. I think baby Cocoa was almost willfully oblivious? Like, my brother had childhood cancer. I found this out a couple of years ago and suddenly I recalled all the time I spent in hospital waiting rooms that I never questioned as a child.

      Hmm, maybe that will be my next makjang story.

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      Ohhhh that was nice! I’m glad you got to post it. I could see it as a drama with Mr. Sunshine kind of budget. I’d watch that.

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      That was a beautiful story, thanks for sharing Cloggie! What your grandfather did is incredible and this really sounds like it could be a drama.

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      I’m always so interested in WWII stories of bravery and survival. I can’t imagine what its like. So glad your grandfather made it out okay and that your mom now knows of what he did!

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      That’s truly amazing. So amnesia isn’t such an unbelievable trope after all. The stories out of war times are usually stranger and more harrowing than fiction. Thank you for sharing this!

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#MondayMakjang
I’m fascinated by family secrets, by what people choose to tell to others and what they choose to keep silent. But what if it’s not a secret but purely knowledge that hasn’t been shared?

That’s what happened in my family.

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    Blast, my long story has an inappropriate word.

    You’re going to have to wait until I figure out which one it is

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      Oh God, I bet I know which one it is. This is a problem.

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    Comment was deleted

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    Nope – I’ve taken out that word and it’s still has an inappropriate word.

    Maybe this is the fan wall’s way of telling me that I shouldn’t share this story.

    Sorry guys, Story Time with Cloggie has been…. postponed until I figure out which word I can’t use

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    Admit it – this is just performance art about secrets that aren’t shared…

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      It’s because it’s hard to write a story about the second world war that’s not full of words that you shouldn’t use on internet forums

      But I like your interpretation a lot more.

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        On the plus side, you did remind me that my family has some very juicy makjang of the historical kind.

        Juicy might not have been the best word choice. Oh well.

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          You would have liked the story @egads. It was about what happened after my second book got published.

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    *crying*

    Even though I took out all the words that I thought were problematic, it still won’t let me post my story. At this rate I’m getting so many -1 points that I’ll end up being an Errand Boy again if I’m not careful.

    Sorry guys – my story was clearly too Makjang.

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      It’s probably not a word you think it is.
      The inappropriate word filter is to reduce spam.
      So things like first, special-ist, and even things like hip hop rap but formatted wrong, with a dash or a slash, it can think is a spammy comment. So look for formatting, or break it down by paragraph, and then by sentence on a test post somewhere is my professional advice lol

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        Done!

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          Found all the words I couldn’t use by breaking it down into paragraphs.

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            Splendid! It is time consuming but it does work!
            What was the word/s eventually?

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            Haha – are you trying to drive me crazy by trying to say that word?

            There were a number of words – many to do with the second world war and where my grandfather was taken to during his year. All words that were appropriate in the context of what I was writing, but not in the context of many other discussions.

            Then I’d made a joke between double asterisks that it didn’t like either.

            Different issues in different paragraphs

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            Hahahaha well usually if you over hiphenate a word it lets you hehe
            e.g. special-ist is an I/W for me so I have to write it like that lmao.
            But nah that makes sense.

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            hyphenate* that one I’m correcting cos I meant to change it and accidentally pushed enter shame on you Lord Typo

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      Also I’ve never really though about that… does the little -1 on inappropriate word comments mean it takes off an upvote? Fascinating. How many upvotes have I sacrificed for science by now lol… I need to test this!!!!

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        So it doesn’t take off upvotes. But it may take off magic invisible beanie points that help you level up. But I can’t confirm that @mary? Is there an invisible points system? Is that how this works?! Does good conduct also contribute along with activity?!

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        Sicarius, are you telling me that you’ve been posting things with appropriate words – all in the name of science?

        Sure, I totally believe that this was the reason.

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    I’m not going to bother tagging people for what turned out to be an epic fail

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      awww you can also just take a screenshot of the whole thing & post it here! That’s what I did once when I was in a similar bind haha

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      1. I am really happy you were finally able to post this. Following your posting-fail saga has been fun. 😀
      2. Whoa whoa whoa, that’s quite makjang. Right there.

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      Whoa, your Grandfather was amazing, @cloggie! In war, people tend to shut themselves up for their own survival, or put their all into a patriotic effort – to have distributed uncensored newspapers is seriously cool!

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    Okay – figured out which word it was and will repost

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    So where is the story??? I see a lot of deleted comments! Did I miss it?

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Trailer: Makjang Mondays
Title: Family Secrets
Release date: 09/09/19
Where? Cloggie’s fan wall.
Totally Inspired by True Events

Disclaimer: this screenshot is a total red herring to draw you in

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TOTM non-published post:

Oh My God! They killed Cloggie!

Whenever I see a character on the screen that reminds me of myself, I’m immediately filled with dread. Not that there’s something terrible about me, I have to say, but because of what’s likely to happen to this character in the upcoming episodes of the drama. Yes, you guessed it: it’s death.

Now, I totally understand that from a story’s point of view. After all, what kind of story could you tell about a happy, content, artistic middle-aged woman who lives by herself? There is no challenge in that, no drama, no need for character growth because I’ve already done all of that. In fact, you could argue that maybe dramas should treat middle-aged women the way society describes us: as someone who’s largely invisible.

However, what none of these stories tell you is that there’s a flipside to invisibility and that’s this: nobody watches you anymore and therefore you’re granted the ultimate freedom from societal norms. You can do whatever you want! Beanies: this is something to look forward to! Freed from cultural restraints, a lot of women of a certain age tap in to a rich seam of creativity or spirituality. For example, a good friend of mine has just published her first poetry collection at the age of sixty.

So why do dramas see the need to kill us off? I fully appreciate that someone has to make the ultimate sacrifice in order to keep the local serial killer employed but, in most cases, the older creative woman’s death seems to serve a different purpose. It’s to give a jolt to the other characters in the story. It could be to remind a female lead that unless she dates some guy, she could end up like the single woman next door who choked to death on a chicken bone. I would like to point out that a quick chicken-bone death would be preferable over having to spend decades with some of the male characters that dramas like to serve up. Yes, there’s a reason why I live by myself.


Selfish unmarried aunt dies in My Contracted Husband Mr Oh.

Alternatively, the single aunt can die to leave a niece a mountain in her will (local gayageum manufacturer optional) or the female knot-maker can die so that another character is distraught, leading to skinship between the OTP in the form of a comforting hug and now EVERYBODY KNOWS. You can see how that’s really worth a creative genius’s death. Alternatively, there’s always suicide after being possessed by an evil spirit, just so that the Important Evidence is hidden.


Death leads to hugs in On The Way to the Airport

But this killing-spree isn’t necessary at all. There are better ways of getting women out of the way if that’s needed for the plot. And that brings me to one of my favourite dramas of last year: Twelve Nights. This is one of the more realistic dramas featuring people who have chosen to lead a creative life. It deals with the question of whether to pursue your creativity or make money; whether to sell-out or remain true to your creative vision and whether you should use your connections or do it all by yourself. A scene with the writer, who had turned out to be less commercially successful than she had hoped, nearly moved me to tears when another character ended up begging for her work to be published. Yes, this drama hit close to home.

And then of course there was an older, single, creative woman, happily running a photography studio. Death seemed inevitable. And indeed, she collapsed and was rushed to hospital for the pure plot purpose of having our central couple not meet. I was very annoyed until (*minor spoiler*) it became clear that she wasn’t going to die, but that she’d collapsed as a side effect of the vaccinations she’d needed for her trip to the Serengeti. I loved it, drama, I really did. Especially as she actually came back from the Serengeti alive as well! And, as a side note, I also approved of her dress style.

Many viewers watched Twelve Nights as a romance and hated it. I watched it as a depiction of (often female) creativity, I saw myself in a number of different characters in that drama, and I loved it.

So kdramaland, stop killing us! There are better solutions! We can go on the adventure of a lifetime to far-flung places instead.

In fact, that sounds pretty good – wait just one second while I book some travel…

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    So so cute and relatable!😍 I can’t believe it didn’t get published!

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    This was a great read! And thank you for shining some light on a forgotten character.

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    Oh, I love this. I had Twelve Nights on my list and it just moved up it.

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    As another middle-aged single woman living along quite comfortably thankyouverymuch I appreciate this and am embarrassed that I haven’t noticed that thread in all the dramas.
    Started Twelve Nights, but somehow didn’t finish it – but I’ll put it back on my list again.
    And I LOVE that actress who played the photographer. Well I love her in everything, except her role in WWW.

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    I would like to point out that a quick chicken-bone death would be preferable over having to spend decades with some of the male characters that dramas like to serve up.

    High five, I agree …

    I put twelve nights on hold maybe I should pick it up again. Thanks for sharing this beautiful write up, we needed this!

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    “Especially as she actually came back from the Serengeti alive as well!” —this made me laugh. Were you worried that she would die from an offscreen Rhino of Death?

    Hopefully they stop killing these women off , because that is so sad.

    I’d be dead.

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      I thought there would be some off-screen death to explain why she wasn’t going to be in the last episode(s). But no! She came back!

      I was ridiculously happy about that.

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      But I like the idea of the Rhino of Death…

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    Excellent write up! Why it wasn’t published is beyond me! It’s a really unique point of view. I would travel more if I were single as well!

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    The invisibility of middle age is wildly underrated. To be honest, I think most media doesn’t utilize this power correctly. Instead of sacrificing the middle aged women to the local serial killer, why not take advantage of that invisibility and have them be the serial killer.

    Oh dear, I suppose everyone is going to think I’m a serial killer again. I swear I’m not, mostly because it seems a bit messy and time consuming.

    Anyways, I love this Cloggie.

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      I like your thinking! But yes, being a serial killer always seems like such hard work to me. I like petty revenge (like in revenge social club) much better. That would be putting invisibility to really good use…

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Because Lawnie didn\’t want to play with me, I wrote something for Theme of the Month.

It\’s titled: Oh no! They killed Cloggie.

I\’ll probably stick it on my fanwall in a couple of weeks 😉

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    Oh no! But since you are posting on the FW, I am assuming the attempt failed.
    And phew, I am glad it was “they” and not “it.” I need a brake job.

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      I thought I could be a bit like Kenny, who was back again every new episode anyway. But you’re right, there was no ToD involved.

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I\’m staying at a friend\’s place. She\’s got a robo lawnmower. I tried to make friends. It clearly ignored me.
*crying*

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    Clearly, it’s holding out for Dusty, and wants nothing to do with inferior humans.

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      I’ve narrowed it down to two options:
      1 – its sensors identify me as an obstacle that needs to be avoided
      2 – it doesn’t like people
      Or
      2a – it doesn’t like me

      I’ve called it Lawnie

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    Kdramas giving us unrealistic expectations for boyfriends and robofriends.

    Also — that is so cool! Next time I have a lawn, I’m getting one.

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    Try again, after work hours again. What do you take robo’s as? Without work ethics? Come on, that is its work place. Take it to a pub!

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      My friend’s neighbours probably already think I’m crazy for saying ‘Hello Robo’ whenever I see Lawnie. If I took her to a pub, I’d be thrown out of town!

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        LOL! Next time visit me, my robo will be excited to meet you, it loves to give bump hugs and crawl over peoples, it is very friendly and is always looking forward to visits!
        And the pubs here are very robo friendly, I swear, I am not making this up ( living at research institute strange benefits). ^^ My robo says hi!

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    I want a Lawnie!

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3 maybe less obvious (from ep15/16) reasons why I loved WWW
1) It gave the most realistic depiction ever of what happens after you’ve broken up with someone. You don’t cry so much that you have to be rushed to hospital. You don’t go running to your family, sobbing for your mummy. You still go to work. You still try to keep going. Yes, it feels like shit but you have to carry on because you’ve got bills to pay
2) The utter wish fulfilment that is… no, not dating your favourite actor, but having a boss like Brian. When you split up, he doesn’t come up with anything crass like: you’re pretty you’ll find someone else, or something embarrassing like: at your age you should learn to settle. No, he says: if you want to bury yourself in work, here’s more work. Especially the comparison with the creepy cheating ex, who brings personal comments like ‘you’re so pretty when you’re angry’ into every conversation, Brian’s trait of keeping discussions in the workplace caring but professional is such a breath of fresh air
3) And finally, the strategy team. Two men, two women, just working together normally. No love interests, no snogs or drunken confessions. Just four people getting on, having fun, working hard. I love it so much. This is what work teams should be like and I wished there were more of the groups on my screen.
Thank you WWW.

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    I agree on all counts! The TF Team was indeed great. I liked their individual stories as much as their teamwork.

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      I was worried that there will be something between Ellie and Joseph. I’ve watch too many Korean dramas that I forgot in real life man and woman can be friends and colleague without hiding their true feelings 😄
      But really who talk about getting Brazilian waxing to their female colleagues? 😐

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        That was refreshing! Haha Ellie was even happy for him. 😂

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    Thank you @cloggie you summed it up just right for me. There was romance in the show – but it didn’t overshadow the rest of the stories.
    That team was awesome!
    Ultimately it showed us that teamwork is possible without much drama – but respect is crucial.
    Finally I LOVED that each woman made her own decision about her life. Period.
    That scene at the end when the Masserati came squealing up and she got in with a smile- I was sure it was her ex. It was only on the road when the top was coming down that I wondered if – and it WAS all the three of them!
    What a fitting end – no matter what they were partners…
    All in all, I loved the ending and the fight to keep the internet portals from being used by the politicians.

    So I was a happy camper at the end of WWW.
    Thank you writers cast and crew.

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    love. this. ♥ couldn’t agree more!

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    So true cloggie! I’d love to work with a Barro and for a boss like Brian. That’s the wish fulfillment this show offered me. I did enjoy Scarlett and Seol Ji-hwan’s story but it never replaced the true story arc – a workplace drama with 3 female leads – for me.

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I have a huge soft spot for actors (m/f) who you can hardly recognise from one drama to the next.

I mean, who’d have known that 30/17 Third Rower would make such an awesome HdL Captain of the Guard

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OMG fellow puppy fans,

What is What\’s Wrong With My Mother-in-Law going to do now???

Option 1) Twin brother also gets killed by a gang
Option 2) Twin brother goes to study abroad once he’s fulfilled the mission in a month’s time
Option 3) Twin brother gets killed by the mother-in-law as she realises he’s not the twin brother, but the original brother pretending to be his own twin, who wasn’t killed by a gang at all

Other makjang suggestions welcome. We can send them to the morning drama director, who seems to be open to fan input.

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    wanna participate but I don’t get the references 🙁 , still 10eps to catch up ^^’
    I’ll vote for option 3)

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      ha ha, option 3 is my favourite too!

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        I’m not watching this, but I find the lack of a ToD option troubling.

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          I don’t even want to imagine puppy being taken out by a ToD.

          *already crying*

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          What??? my ToD oppa will refuse to take job, I trust him!!
          *frantically calling oppa to confirm*

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            @ToD will take up the job, but as he/she approaches our puppy, he/she will be stunned by the cheekbones and will lose control of the steering wheel and frantically try to steer the wheel and then the brakes fail and then all hell ‘brakes’ loose and hits a near by trash can and no one dies. Our puppy runs to save the driver and sees that it is the mother-in-law!! cue-music..

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            @mayhemf that’s sheer brilliance – including the music cue

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          No egads, NOOOOO.
          Never..

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          The mere thought is blasphemy. T_T How…could…you…say….this?

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            In my defense, I did say I am not watching this drama. Therefore, I did not know that the aforementioned twins were the adorable puppy/oppa that has plastered the fanwall lately.

            I take it back. I remove the thought from the universe. And I”M SORRY. Please don’t hire a black masked assassin to get your revenge on my me @cloggie, @greenfields, @mayhemf, @oppafangirl,

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            (@egads – this made me laugh out loud in a library. I got told off, but at least our Seol Ji-hwan is safe *phew* so all is good)

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    Option 4 – Twin Brother gets struck by Truck of Doom. He was trying to save a puppy but didnt move out of the way , even though there were plenty of time. He survived but had anemesia. He finally came back, thinking he is the original brother, thinking the newborn baby is his (= original brother’s baby). But of course, the baby isn’t his (who is the real father?!).

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      this…
      the lack of TOD is sending me over the edge really~
      But I didn’t want him to survived tho?
      Imagine the close-up slow-mo when his lifeless body flying over the hood
      His pained expression and then eerie calmness juuussstt before his body falls on that road
      As if the world understands, rains start to drizzle down like tears as he took his last breath…

      demmit…I’m too invested in this drama~

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    Before any killing happens…make sure twin bro takes a photobooth picture. It’s kdramas rite of passage.

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      I’m imagining it being a 120 ep daily drama, which has issues when the ML goes into the army.

      But I had the non-death Option 2 as a possibility. Or maybe WWWMMIL should just finish early like Let’s Eat 3

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        Was really shocked the drama ended just as Ji-hwan got his notice. I thought they were going to kill his character again and then just be a long-running makjang! HAHA.

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          Same here… That’s why I posted that after I’d watched ep 13

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    Triplets.

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    He has to go in the Army, so follow him in. Talk the Army into letting the drama show the softer makjang side of army life entwined with the plot of WWWMMIL. A hybrid reality and makjang show could set a new trend! Get out of the box, do something different!

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Wow so many badass female characters on my screen these days. I’m loving Han Ye-Seul in #Big Issue – she’s beautiful, super-smart and grown-up. Oh and morally quite deeply charcoal grey.

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    I think I was one of 12 people that watched this show live. I just wished that they did not try to give her a moral compass. That did have a impact on her character on the back half of the series and it didn’t seem to fit.

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      I’ve got 3 episodes left and she still seems quite morally dubious to me, even if I’m enjoying her attitude to fight fire with fire.

      I think it’s such an interesting drama. I nearly choked on my dinner when they mentioned a member of a idol group having a ‘golden phone’…

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        Timing is everything, isn’t it. This show was on in the mist of alllllll of that.

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          I actually went back to check exactly when this show aired – compared when all of that news broke. It seems really close to the wire… I’m surprised they got away with that. The depiction of beating girls up in VIP rooms and drugging them in clubs and taking photos, was all rather shockingly close to what we now know is reality

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          It must have been a rather hard watch when all of it was going on, I can imagine.

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            That’s why I dropped it, even though I loved her.

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            I understand @ndlessjoie. Ep 8 & 9 were particularly hard to watch and if I’d been live-watching, and had to wait a week plus reading all about how this was actually really going on, I might have dropped it too.

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I won\’t say anything spoilerish but only share that I was concerned about ep 15 of One Spring Night. But I watched it and liked it.

(and I also like the ep 16 preview)

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Hey Beanies, look, I got myself a new pot plant.

Should I give it a name? Any suggestions?

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Cloggie\’s take on how #WWW got written:

KES (on one of her many shows): I\’ve fallen in love with my male lead. Screw whatever character trajectory I had for the woman. I need to give him more scenes.

KES\’ Assistant Writer (to herself out of KES’ hearing): I’m so fed up with this. My first drama by myself is going to have only kick-ass female characters.

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BEANIES BEANIES!

I made it to …. the ROOFTOP!

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In my head, this is what\’s taking place on set of #WWW:

Almost everybody: OMG this part is so much better than what I normally get, it’s allowing me to show JUST WHAT I CAN DO, and I\’m acting the shit out of it. (I’m loving this as a viewer and want to keep posting things on my fan wall)

One actor: this part is so much worse than what I normally get and I’m a bit bored.

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    Are you referring to the BTS video of the confession scene?

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    Is that one actor Jang Ki Yong? Because he’s literally the only one getting the short end of the stick here.

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    @outofthisworld and @greenfields – sorry, this response has become a bit of an essay.

    I didn’t actually know there was a BTS video of the confession scene! I have to look this up now

    I admit that I sometimes look at dramas from another angle because I’ve spent a lot of time in RL with professional actors (my ex in-laws were both quite famous at the heights of their careers).

    Especially this drama has been interesting in terms of casting and what it can do for the careers of the people in it. It’s basically taken a standard corporate/chaebol drama and gender-swapped every single character. This has meant that for the three female leads, they got the parts that normally the male actors get. Actresses in their (late) thirties often have a hard time getting good roles, as they move out of the traditional ‘female cute lead’ age and before the ‘mother’ age. So I would have expected our three leads to work hard and nail it – to show that there should be more gender-neutral casting, and that they can play General Managers just as well as the next guy. And they absolutely do not disappoint.

    Then there is a potentially career-changing role for Ye Soon-jung, because she basically plays the evil gangboss, and if she doesn’t get more parts as a cold psychopath in the future, I’ll be very disappointed. This is her chance to break out of the artistic grandmother/wise woman stereotype and she’s nailing it. She scares the hell out of me.

    Lee Jae-Wook should be very grateful to his agent for landing him this part. He gets to play two different parts in one (as the baddy in the makjang drama, as well as the cutie) and is really showing off his skills in being very believable as both of them. It’s a gem of a part for a rookie actor. And who knows what they’re going to do with the twin, he might get to play three different parts within one drama. It’s an eye-catching part and he’s great in it.

    So for five actors in the cast, this could be a super-important role and they’re working extremely hard to get the most out of these parts, as they know what it could mean for their future career.

    I’ve also been very impressed with Ji Seung-Hyun as the husband, giving a very layered vulnerable performance as the guy so in love with his wife that he’s willing to divorce her.

    For Jang Ki Yong in contrast, his part is like ‘just another day in the office’. I’ve seen other actors do very interesting things with very similar parts (Gong Myung in Happy Loner comes to mind) but JKY doesn’t go there. There have been a few moments where he’s absolutely nailed it – like that look of deep desire when the elevator doors opened – but the rest of the time, he’s not that different from other parts he played, which is a real shame.

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      Wow! Thanks @cloggie what an interesting read!

      I agree with almost everything you’ve written here. I don’t have that much issue with Jang Ki Yong but admittedly he’s the least interesting in here, both character and as an actor. There are some who shine only when the role is a more dramatic one. Give them something more mundane and quieter, they can’t quite deliver the nuances or layers. He’s not doing a bad job but it could be better.

      It’s funny, I loved his dreamy smile in Go Back Couple but I am getting an overdose of it here. Lately, I’ve been having a difficult relationship with ‘smile’, LOL. Some are driving me nuts in not a good way 😛

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        Oh, I agree, he isn’t doing a bad job but he’s being upstaged because everybody else is doing an AMAZING job.

        I loved him to bits in GBC and also thought he was great in Come and Hug Me. It’s probably why I’m harsh on him XD

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        I have to agree!
        1. Thank you @cloggie for this lovely post. You’re so right re the roles women are given and again, it’s one of the many, many reasons I love this drama. As I said elsewhere, it may just make it to my rare 10/10 just for how unconventional it is.
        2. Jang Ki-yong. May I be honest and say I wasn’t particularly impressed with him in TLAHL, Go Back Couple or Kill It? And I remain unimpressed. I know he comes from a modeling career and very frankly, I still see a model. I don’t see an actor.

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    This drama sadly doesn’t showcase Jang Ki Young’s talent. There was a reason why Baeksang awarded him a New Actor for his performance in Come and Hug Me despite its lacklustre rating. He was stellar in Come and Hug Me and for little appearance he made in My Ahjusshi, he left a lasting impression to me and I appreciated that he took on a disturbing, uncomfortable, yet pitiful role.

    Morgan doesn’t have a story outside his relationship with Ta Mi. That’s the gripe I have of this drama. He’s not fleshed out and he’s got more scenes than the other two male characters, but we still don’t know much about him other than he’s willing to string along whatever floats Ta Mi’s boat. Well he’s starting to have a backstory now, but I I think it’s a bit late for me to bother to me invested in his background (yet…)

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      I feel like, except the family couple writer didn’t intend to write any loveline here. The main loveline is there probably due to pressure from producers. Like in Alhambra, writer doesn’t seem to even try to make it work.

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Thought I\’d share that only 2 weeks ago @waadmay and I had a conversation about why the guy playing the actor in WWW was so high up on the cast list.

Well, now we know.

#2weeksisalongtimeinkdrama

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    But it’s interesting though that he didn’t make actual full appearance until almost halfway through the series. And when he finally did, he took us all by a storm! Huehehhe.

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      It was a smart move from the writer maybe to point out that good things may come late 😉😉

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In addition to squealing about the cute, I also want to give a shout out to Ye Soo-jung being effortlessly badass as the Evil Ganglord (sorry, I mean chaebol mother-in-law at a funeral of course, my mistake) who rules her people with an iron fist.

#WWW

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    I thought the tattoo gun in an earlier episode was a delightfully nasty and unpleasant touch.

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    She hasn’t had much screen time and I’m terrified of her.

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      Right? She’s just scary. I get apprehensive every time she appears.

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        Me too! I don’t want to be anywhere near her given that I shiver just seeing her on screen.

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    This role is quite the departure from the usual roles I’ve seen this actress in. She is definitely something else in this drama.

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      She always plays these kind, artistic, wise characters. Like in On The Way to the Airport, or Twelve Nights.

      Here: tattoo gun. Mind blown. She’s obviously having a ball with this part.

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