Beanie level: Wrongly accused fugitive

Hye Young and Jeong Hwan is quite possibly my most favourite ‘to watch’ second lead couple EVER! They are hilarious, endearing and complete marshmallows together. I have never seen a drama couple break up and make up in such quick succession 😂
I can’t wait to see how their awesome relationship progresses until the end of the drama! Fighting!

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I cannot think of enough superlatives to convey my intense love for this show!!!! *heart eyes* *finger hearts* *love shot*
#fatherisstrange

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Check out those wedges 😂

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I am throughly enjoying Father is Strange! I have never seen any of Lee Joon’s work before and he is damn good!!!

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    He is also fantastic in Heard It Through the Grapevine!!

    BTW Lee Joon and Jung So-min became a RL couple after the show!

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      I know!! I am not the kind to ship celebs in real life but my second fav pairing of all time is Seo In Guk and Jung So Min in TSHLYE. Their acting was so realistic it felt like it was real. But after watching Lee Joon I was like ‘yeah, this pairing is RL is good too’ 😃

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Beanies, I am struggling to find anything to watch while waiting for Touch your Heart. I just finished When We Were Young (CDrama) and so there is that slot to fill. Viki hasn’t subbed Psychometric Guy as yet and I am not even sure if it is the kind of show that will hold me.

Anyway, the last weekend I watched was You are the Best with iU and I am wondering if I should give Father is Strange a chance. Should I?

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    Weekender*

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    Give it a try. I thoroughly enjoyed Father is Strange.

    Another weekender I liked was Five Enough.

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    I can’t normally handle the weekenders, but i LOVE Father is Strange. I still go back and watch certain scenes from that show. I say give it a try! (I haven’t seen Five Enough, but I’ve heard good things and may give it a try one of these days, too)

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Anyone watching ‘I hate you Juliet’? Any good? Should I?

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    Lee hongki 😛
    i am surprised if drama isn’t pulled down sooner than later..

    he is one of the singers framed in the controversy right?

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      edit: ok just saw he got a clean chit from the controversy

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        Yes! It’s scary how it is becoming a witch hunt. Anyone who is anyone with the slightest resemblence is getting dragged down.

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          hmm but the fact that reporter immediately squashed the rumour for some and not for the biggest names being targeted basically is a tacit confirmation of involvement of the other famous names.

          Which means JH from FT Island, has known about this forever and yet kept mum (or participated over their long friendship record).. CNblue Jonghyun is another big name confirmed right? I really don’t see how ROy kim never knew about this..

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What a beautiful little piece of sunshine and sadness was When We Were Young (CDrama). I smiled all throughout the 24 episodes even though my smile because wistful in the last 2.

I hope we get a Season 2 soon. Highly highly recommended!

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I had a pretty hard day today…shed a few tears….sulked a bit….but I giggled and squeeled like a school girl watching episode 10 of Touch your Heart!!! They are the cutest!!! In fact everyone in that drama is the cutest!! Maybe even the stalker guy will turn out to be cute too!

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ATTENTION LAWYER CHOI AND LAWYER DAN SHIPPERS!!!

@ally-le @tsutsuloo @kimbapnoona @ndlessjoie @snarkyjellyfish @loveblossom @hotcocoagirl and YOU!

I demand to know why we had our couple of the hour only for a few minutes on screen this episodes 😭😭😭

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While getting ready for work this morning, I found my husband humming in the bathroom while shaving. Recognising the tune right away I asked him if he knew what song he was singing. He became momentarily speechless because he had no clue!

It was the opening song from When We Were Young 😃 He grimaces every time I watch it yet he knew the song 😃

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Okay so here are my two cents about the ending of The Crowned Clown….

I have been raging like a lunatic and I have been flabbergasted like a peasant on what this drama was actually trying to teach us! The first 7 episodes were solid AF! The acting, the cinematography, the score was 10/10. Then they committed regicide and that went downhill very very quickly.

There are no good and bad sides, as per the continuous discussions here on DB. But go and rewatch the scenes were the ‘good’ side were getting poisoned and/or dying as opposed to the ‘bad’ side getting their cummapence. Yes, I use that word specifically because the writing, the dialogue and even the background music clearly pointed to us who they wanted us to side with! There was a clear cut good side.

To me the biggest villain was Haksan, who the writers kept insisting was the GOOD guy! I will sound like a broken record if I list out all the terrible things that he did. Okay no i’ll list some here anyway…cause you know I have time…

– he killed the mad king for HIS OWN benifit. Who was he to decide what was best for the nation? Who gave him the right?
– he chose the Clown not because he was good and righteous but because he looked like the king! So this was no democracy I tell ya!
– he bowed to the Clown when he was forgiven for his sins. And omg don’t let me start on child murder and the killing the rightful heir to the throne.

I could go on and on but i’ll Just stop there. The Queen was adulterous. Pure and simple. How many sagueks have we seen were people in the position of power sacrifice their happiness for the nation? She was the opposite. It was not refreshing. It was selfish.

I expected the Clown to have a storyline where he does turn out to be the rightful person for the throne. I wouldn’t have minded a ‘twins separated at birth’ trope here. It would have made sense.

And finding a wise prince to give away the throne to was so random. Where was this guy when all the scheming and murdering was happening?

The Queen Dowager should have won. A mother blinded by revenge to avenge her young sons death should have been the GOOD guy! It did not make sense!!

Oh and the ending? What a load of utter crap!!! The worst…the shi…ahh!!! I’ll see myself out..

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    The ending was a weird mixture of happily ever after snippets. The one that seemed the most odd was Woon Sim. How many single women traveled alone through all the provinces?

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Oh boy I am crying so much you guys!!!! Haksan is dead!!!! So much tears!! I was so moved by the melo music yo!!! So much heart break!!!

*this was a sarcasm post*

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I came across a picture of these two the other day and I realised how much I actually liked this drama!

Yes there was a ‘hero’ and a ‘vigilante’ trope but honestly it made the plot interesting otherwise it would have been ‘another school drama’! I miss them! They were so cute! If you haven’t already give School 2017 a go!

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Warning: Trigger post…

A few more negative thoughts about The Crowned Clown….

I am genuinely sad that the queen cannot bear a child. But under these circumstances why is she even expecting she ‘has’ the chance of conceiving a child? Her husband is dead. She is the mother of the nation who is committing treason by protecting a fake king with whom she is involved in an adulterous relationship. But is she thinking as far as to ‘want’ to conceive a child with her fake husband/king? Is she secretly planning on marrying him to make the process proper – we need to think about the times guys.

She is clearly not the righteous Queen the show is claiming her to be. In fact NO ONE on the ‘good’ side is righteous by any means. In a parallel drama world the good side is clearly the villains.

Sigh…I really loved her as Buja and I wish she hadn’t picked this role to play. What is this drama trying to teach us?

End rant.

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    I totally agree. I said the same thing in the recaps. I’m not upset that good people are doing wrong things. I’m more upset we are being told these good people AREN’T doing wrong at all. It’s not even “the end justifies the means” anymore. They make it like these characters should receive awards for doing greedy things “evil” people do just because they are part of Team Good.

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      YES! EXACTLY!

      Honestly this could have been a completely different drama just by reversing the good and the bad side.

      Good side- avenging the brutal murder of the rightful crown prince. Wanting to depose a fake king.

      Bad side- murder of the rightful crown prince and murder of current king. Treason. Evil Royal Secretary.

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    And this is why I’m not bored. It’s not following the usual saguek story line. I may regret the whole thing once I see the ending (no I won’t, because I’ve enjoyed watching Jin Goo so much).

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    Not to the same level but it’s remind me of Jung Ha Yeon’s Queen In Soo. Where there is no definite line between the villain and the protagonist. The protagonist in that drama is also scheming, but there is the reason behind their action of what they think is right. Both side have their point and it’s absolutely why i like the crowned clown so far.

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    @peony thought I should just tag you here as a reply in the recap 😊

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Okay. Don’t hate me but I need to know if the super mini short skirts that they wear in kdramas are actually what is worn in the work place. Is it? I am a HR professional by day, a kdrama watcher by night and a feminist throughout the day. To me there is ‘appropriate’ work clothing. Whether you work with men, women or children wearing a skirt or dress that will clearly show your undies if you move is not appropriate work clothing in my books.

Is what shown in kdrama’s real life? Asking for a friend…

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    We need the edit button ASAP!

    *is what shown in kdrama’s happen in real life*

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    My husband has travelled twice to SK, once was in the dead of winter and the weather insanely cold. He says there were girls walking around with mini short skirts shivering uncontrollably. He had asked his guide how they could wear them in such weather, and the guide had replied that they loved to follow fashion trends at any price!

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      *face palm*

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      Oh, while living in Ireland and working in a night club I was wondering how these girls survive. It was freezing cold out there and especially the students were always wearing miniskirts and relieving outfits. No winter coats, unless in spring time after huge sales. What can somebody do to make herself pretty to attract men it’s worth to write a novel for. 😉

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    It’s a cultural thing – the skirt could be as short as it can show your pretty legs (I don’t think it’s appropriate for women after their thirties neither) but a big no to show your arms or neckline. That’s considered as vulgar and unrespectful.

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      Right! I have never actually seen a cleavage bearing dress in a kdrama! But even arms?

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        It’s changing but they prefer long sleeves to not get tanned. But how do they do with their legs exposed? A lot of sun screen lotion! Some mountain rivers in France are extra polluted with sun screen lotion and gore-tex. Maybe it’s everywhere where there’re lots of tourists.

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    I’ve always wondered about that too.
    I mean… it’s cute and all, but it must be terribly inconvenient? Especially in a workplace environment.

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    Just going by dramas – of you see more “realistic” dramas like misaeng, women are not wearing those mini skirts to work.

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    In my experience, no they don’t. However, I have heard that there are instances where people wear mini-skirts to work and no one says anything about it so every workplace is different. In general, I would say that the majority of people have the sense to wear more professional and modest clothing to work though.

    I worked in a pretty casual environment, but I was surprised when one day a colleague mentioned I was “daring” for wearing a red dress to work (it wasn’t sexy or anything). Another co-worker assured me it was fine, but my jaw nearly dropped when a few months later one of the fellow teachers came to school in a fire-engine red, form-fitting, classy dress with matching red lipstick lol She wore it more than once so I guess no one spoke to her about it.

    It’s possible that there is an unspoken business dress code everywhere, but because of the culture people just don’t scold a person for not following it and thus they continue to do so. I know in schools at least I have seen girls get away with hiking their skirts waaay above what should be allowed, but I only knew one teacher that would bother to tell them to pull them down. Outside of the professional environment though, it is indeed common to see girls in the dead of winter wearing mini-skirts and chasing after buses in stilettos. Meanwhile, I would get strange looks for pulling a hat out when the temperature dropped below freezing…

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Rewatching Coffee Prince thanks to Nelflix! I started off with ep 10 for my favourite scene – the beach scene. But my high came crashing down when I realised Netflix changed the background music of that scene 😭😭😭

Tell me your favourite OST of all time. Here is the song that was cut off.

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    Noooooo. One of the things I really dislike about Netflix. I probably play the Coffee Prince OST more than I play any other.

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      This. There’s a completed list of Coffee Prince OST & BUT plus some conversations of Hangeol and Eunchan on Spotify.

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      I could listen to those 27plus songs for ever! My all time favourite!

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    It’s hard to pick one my favorite OST of all time, but from Coffee Prince one of my favorite is Good Bye from The Melody. It’s the song when Han Yu-ju left Choi Han Seong and he chased her to the airport.

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    The licensing issue is a big con with Netflix. Music helps to define the mood. It really is so disappointing.

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      I know! I was so disappointed! I had to pause Netflix and rewatch the scene on YouTube!

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    Like the dog episode in Master’s Sun where he danced to different music on Netflix. I had the original song in my head for the whole of the scene and it drove me nuts.

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    Like, shouldn’t that be against some law? How snd why would they do that?!

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The Crowned Clown is possibly the only show where I can’t fully support the ‘good’ side and sort of understand the ‘bad’ side. Does that make me one of the bad guys? 🤷🏻‍♀️

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    Since episode one, I’ve been bothered by the fact that there’s an alternative retelling of this story where Cray Cray’s stepmother is the righteous one, avenging the brutal murder of her son by an insane King.

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      EXACTLY!!! And a child! They killed a child. I was 50/50 on the Chief Royal Secretary but after the latest episode of him describing, with unprecedented cruelty of how he poisoned a little boy to his mother, totally turned me off him 100%

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        Omg, I was so appalled. That was not strategic, that was pure merciless cruelty. And the fact that Ha Sun empathized his “pain” for killing a young child and a hopelessly ill drug addict made me gag. I thought “finally someone found out” then it gets swept under the rug like he merely squashed a cockroach? WTF?!!! I got so upset at Ha Sun I didn’t even finish ep14.🤯

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          Now let’s have a discussion about gender and sageuks…
          No, let’s not.
          Let’s just point out that point Hasun’s sister’s rape and this murder are discussed entirely in terms of how they affect the male protagonist and not the victims themselves…
          Also, I think I’ve kind of dropped this show. What a shame. I loved the first 8.

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            They can’t introduce that edit button fast enough….

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            I never really saw the rape as a gender issue but more of a lead vs support/side cast issue. It’s downplay is problematic, while not specifically gender related. If she was a younger version of a female lead, it will probably (I hope) be played out differently.

            I keep thinking back to Six Flying Dragon when I watch this and it really pales in comparison on the moral and storytelling scale, though overperforms almost all other sageuks I’ve seen on the visual scale. BTW, the second female lead was raped at a very young age in SFD and they did shed light on how it transformed her life and her love/tragedy was really the best romance story in that drama.

            In SFD we see how the lead’s ambition for the throne turned him into a morally evil king and the writers never tried to convince the audience that he’s doing it for a “greater good”, he simply wanted to be king cuz he didn’t like the one in power. I’m not happy with this writer trying to twist someone doing so much evil into a good person. Nah uh🙅🏻‍♀️

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            Yeah I have to agree with @geliguolu here and think it is more of a high rank low rank issue. There was a law that stipulated how a low born person will be punished if they hurt a high born person. There was nothing the other way around.

            I remember while watching Mr Sunshine as to why, even in a volatile world of chang, the leads couldn’t be together. Even in a world where things were changing the social cast issue was still prevalent.

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            For me the issue is that everything around the Clown only happens to make him react, and therefore drive the plot. That includes, Dal Rae’s rape, EVERYTHING to do with the Queen, and the treatment of peasants like him.
            He only ever REACTS to things. That’s sort of linked to what you’re saying there… that these issues are only ever discussed in terms of how they effect the male protagonist. My issue is less with whether or not it’s intentionally sexist, and more that it’s hack writing. Side characters only exist to make the lead do things, and nothing more, the lead only ever plays the part of a character that was treated as a plot device anyway. The whole thing is cheap. It’s just cheap tricks to try and fake depth, the characters are caricatures, and the plot lines thin veneers, and it looks super pretty so oh look another pretty show! No.
            The cake is a lie. Again.

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            @sicarius he is a puppet king. If the Secretary asks him to go jump off a cliff he will. He also loves another mans wife and would also go jump of a cliff is she asks him to.

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          A huge part of me wants him not to know about the child’s murder. Can I think he arrived a bit late and didn’t hear the full story? Can I?? Please?

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      Right now I really want her to overthrow Ha Sun and bring in that faceless other prince

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        Yes I probably wouldn’t mind that either. Oh and the adultery?!?! I was flayed alive the other day on DB for saying I couldn’t agree to their romance! LMAO

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          I hope I didn’t flay you. I’m kind of ambivalent about the romance. They’ve made her too much of a one note character for me to care one way or the other.

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          I AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH REN. I can’t agree with their romance either, nor can I ship it an a big reason is because of the adultery. Which someone had the GALL to say is the King’s Fault on one of the recaps.

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            YES! I was told the same thing!!! You realise this guy is not your husband, right!!! And this is not modern day! Stop kissing him under the sacred tree or some shit!

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            I didn’t even have a response to that comment honestly I was so pissed off.
            The fact that some people believe the bullshit this drama is trying to sell makes me want to stab something

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            I am just glad you didn’t say you wanted to stab ‘someone’ 😀

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            A watermelon will suffice.

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    Oh, I don’t fully support the good guys, either.

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    I’m still in it because it isn’t following the usual sageuk formula. I think what I really need is a sageuk told from the point of view of a commoner who has no contact with the royal family or politicians. I always bail on anything that’s all politics and has a guaranteed sad ending.

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Appreciating the little details in dramas post:

I appreciate how The Crowned Clown ends each episode. That black screen with the white writing and that awesome background music.

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Am I the only one from Australia here?? #straya

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Ugh! I just cannot bring myself to support this romance you guys!!! Help me!!! Wife stealer Ha Seon.

PS: damn he heals quick *eye effing role*

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    The arrow hit him on the shoulder blade. So kind of makes sense if he healed quickly. Plus it’s not as if he wasn’t in pain.

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      He could have easily lied down on the ground to not get hit.

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        Yeah but then the queen would be hit. And he didn’t have enough time to explain to her. You know how distraught they both were just before right?

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    Which show is this?

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    He’s as much of a wife saver as a wife stealer.

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      Still! I am stuck in the technicalities and I can’t bring myself to see past that!

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      He’s so good to her! But he stole the king’s wife. But they’re in lurrvve!! But this is so wrong on so many level. But he saved her life! But he’s been lying the whole time. But they’re so cute together!
      Yeah, huge dilemma.

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