Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

So, episode 6 of Devil kinda brought it all back together for me. They stopped trying too hard for the comedy with weirdness, and settled into actually moving the story forward.

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    I appreciate that Ha Rip is staying true to his selfishness. He’s not completely evil, but then neither is the Devil here; however, his calculated actions to get Ki-young to sign the contract are consistent with his narcissism.

    The music continues to be good.

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    Glad you enjoyed ep 6! It was okay-ish for me and confusing at certain parts. I await recaps to shine some light on Ryu/Mo Tae Gyang. I was taken aback when CEO Ji ran through him, maybe he really is in another realm at certain times.

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      I think we are missing some of the Ryu/Mo Tae Gyang rule book yet. I’m looking forward to seeing how his arc comes together.

      There was still some awkward transitions and inconsistencies, but they weren’t as jarring as episode 5. And I think I was most glad that things seem to actually being happening instead of just spinning its wheels.

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Tientsin Mystic is not what I was expecting. But in a good way. Also, @isthatacorner, if you are enjoying Gun in Go Go Squid you might want to check out Li Xian here.

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The senior timpanist in Let Me Hear Your Song?

He’s shady. I don’t trust him. However, he is very nice to look at.

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    I was gonna make a bad drum joke, but I’ll spare you that indignity.

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      But @egads, how am I gonna deliver my expert “ba dum chhh ” without the punchline?

      Okay, that doesn’t even qualify as a drum joke.
      *hides behind the gong

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        It could get very vulgar very fast, so I’ll just go hang out with my former tribe the oboists, and pretend I never thought about banging or rims.

        Oh, turns out the pretty timpanist is just a cheating jerk, and not a criminal mastermind. Strangely enough, his wife plays the oboe. We must have a type.

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To all the Beanies who raved about Be Melodramatic: Well, you were right, but I should have taken the melo warning to heart. I was not fully prepared, but damn this trio is great.

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    I cried so hard at the 2nd half of the first episode thinking it won’t be Melo but yes, the trio is great!

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Japan? Are you okay?

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Accurate depiction of sleepless me glaring at the world this week. I guess this is my submission for the Theme of the Month.

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    So are you going out today to find a stranger that believes no job is too small? You’ll give him your number and he will call you each night to sing you to sleep. If he asks for request I suggest some Boyz II Men or Michael Bolton.

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      LOL, no. I’ll stick to my usual of turning on a stupid, and hopefully, boring drama to try to lull my brain to turn off and go to sleep

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        Turning the brain off is the hardest. Sometimes when it is just a regular bad night I will turn around and sleep in the opposite direction. So head at the bottom of the bed. Not full proof but works over half the time.๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I’ve actually met someone else who does this too, lol.

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          I’ve tried that, and it does work sometimes. This week has been filled with a lot of really bad news for family, add in the news of the latest tragedies and the horrible actions of my government, and at this point, I might not say no to someone hitting me over the head with a brick to turn off my head.

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            That is hard and an insomnia of a different kind. It is so personal to the individual. My only tip, that you probably know, is to sleep when you can. So if your body and brain finally say “enough” even if it is noon, if your schedule allows. Just something that helped when I was going through stress, because that tired brain makes it so much harder.

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            There are other people I want hit over the head with a brick this week. Not you.

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            But @ndlessjoie not even if I say Please?

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            @egads I’m so sorry for all the pain you are feeling. I too have been struggling with the news et al, the only thing I’ve found to help me fall asleep is thankfully, 1 beer – and I’m out!
            Last night I had to watch some Seungjae videos from The Return of Superman – he always makes me smile.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnZbdTiINfk&list=PLMf7VY8La5RFuxrXh1ON_O_9cqZw1-_O_&index=109&t=0s
            in case you haven’t seen any…
            <<<>>>

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    Same! Trying to pat on the undereye cream that’s supposed to hide the dark circles. Is there one that comes in industrial strength?

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Is tone deaf horrible singer the new faceblindness this season?

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    Unfortunately, thatโ€™s what it look like. However, I like this much better than face-blindness. I can at least chuckle at the Devil.

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      Tone deaf has been around forever in kdrama. Usually played by good singers😂

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I liked the first week of Let Me Hear Your Song? I pressed play for Yeon Woo-jin, saw wayyyyyyyy more of Song Jae-rim than I expected, and am slightly interested in the mystery.

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    I liked the music, too.

    And the bad singing required to put our heroine to sleep is truly awful- as in requires genius level of skill to be that hilariously bad.

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    I am so happy hearing all the positive feedback. I have been oddly intrigued and excited for this one since it was announced. Hopefully press play tonight.

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I am in need of distraction. Give me your happiest, fun movie recommendation. No sad allowed, but non-English preferred. I need subtitles to occupy brain space and to keep me from thinking.

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*whispers

I haven\’t enjoyed a premier week of a kdrama this much since…….idk. Hopefully, the screenwriter sold their soul so the story maintains this momentum.

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Tentatively throwing it out into the universe that I really liked the first episode of When the Devil Calls Your Name. I especially love how it looks and sounds.

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    Oh oh oh, Iโ€™m going to try to catch this!

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    I also especially love how it looks and sounds. They did fit a lot into the first episode, so it seemed a little all over the place for me. Hopefully, as we settle into a good pace, I’ll enjoy the show more.

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      There was a lot of set up, and material to throw at us, but while it was a little all over the place, it didn’t seem overwhelming to me. The next few episodes will determine if they are going to settle into a well paced story now that we’ve been introduced to everyone.

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    I totally agreed! Thereโ€™s a lot of information thrown as us to set up the story and its characters, but everything reads clearly to me. Hopefully it continues to be a gem 💎 and make the most of the amazing cast! โœจ

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I didn’t finish my villain essay in time for the deadline, but hopefully, I will post it on my wall soon. This duo is stone cold evil.

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Wait a minute. That WWW puppy Lee Jae Wook was the attractively scruffy eyelinered bad boy in Memories of Alhambra? Hmmm. Also, he is very young, so I\’ll just leave now.

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    Yes. He is Marco. The styling is so different, he looks older as Marco compared to the WWW gifs I’ve seen on the fan wall.

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      But his whole body language is different as Marco. And again, as Seol Ji-hwan the character in WWW who is an actor, Seol Ji Hwan’s drama-role as the evil Min Hyuk. All three are VERY different people – you’d never know its the same guy. It’s more than just make-up. The guy’s showcased genuinely versatile acting so far.

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        And he does all this without any exaggerated acting, I find his style very natural.

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        I didn’t watch WWW. But from the amount of praises this young actor got, he has a bright future ahead.

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        I have only seen his WWW performance through gifs, and he’s good. His “real” character and his makjang drama character are so so different in just the way he holds himself. I’m looking forward to what he does in the future.

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        I cannot stop gushing about this young talent. It feels unreal that someone can be this talented and captivating. His essence is so strong that he shines in every character. Good, evil, simple, sweet – everything works.

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        Since everyone already pointed out almost everything and I agree with every cell of my being. Aside from all that, he actually looks shorter in MotA while heโ€™s a giant in WWW

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          Yeah, in MOA he looks like a shorter person. Maybe he grew some though because he is young enough that that is a distinct possibility.

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            Oh my god..

            I’m slowly coming to some acceptance that many of beautiful actors and singers are too young, but still growing! That’s too much. 😂๐Ÿคฃ

            Gong Yoo and Tablo long may they live.

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            Good lord. I was hoping its because he was slumping his shoulders as the drug-and-games addict Marco, but this…. T_T

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            Yeah, @bcampbell1662 and @greenfields, Iโ€™m feeling like a very uncomfortable ajummha who should probably bleach her eyeballs. But he was born in 1998, and many young men continue to grow until their early 20s. Which, as someone who stopped growing at the age of 12, I find very unfair.

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            I need to go bleach my mind.

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            WHAT!! he is still growing??

            Also, I thought the Marco shots were all either low angle shots or from above. There wasn’t any normal shots of him. His whole character was supposed to be mysterious and the shots were such. I think we never noticed his height because of that.

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            Sorry, I meant to say most of his shots were bust shots.. we hardly had full lenghts.

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            He looks taller than the guy behind him right?

            Marco image

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            @cloggie, you and me both.

            @mayhemf, I don’t know that he was/is still growing, I’m just saying given his age it’s possible.

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            @mayhemf, lol. Did you ever experience that with someone you graduated with? You leave school and they are average height then you see them a few years later and have to tip your head back to talk to them, lol.

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    I haven’t watched him in anything but MoA.
    But if he is as popular in Korea as on the wall I hope he doesnt end up in all the dramas. I feel like both Jang Ki Yong and Yeo Jin goo may of been a little burned by this.
    Though I’m only using dramabeans as my reference and that might not be indicative of the majority opinion, lol.

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      I do think that the delay in airing the preproduced Absolute Boyfriend did not do Jin-goo any favors. Jin-goo saturation limits might have been reached for both domestic and international audiences.

      Isn’t dramabeans the measure of all things?

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      If I remember right, he is part of the agency set up by HyunBin. His first role was solid as Marco. His second role was very meta and very well done.
      I think they are doing a great job in setting up him. I highly doubt he will be over saturated. My guess is he will do movies too and we wont see him is a slew of dramas.

      JKY and YJG ended up in too many dramas in the last 2 years right?

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        They’ve introduced him to audiences with small but very memorable roles. That he has been able to take these small parts and make an international audience take notice of them in the way they have, bodes well for his future career. I do remember, that even when he first appeared in MoA, the beanie reaction was pretty fierce for the amount of screen time he had. The kid makes an impression. (And yes, I’m gonna call him a kid because that will remind me that he is very young.)

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          You and @outofthisworld constantly remind me that he is a kid. But this Ajhumma’s heart refuses to hear these. The heart doesn’t listen to reason. It wants what it wants.

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            He’s younger than my children. I’m not a believer in hell, but if it exists, pervy ajummha does not need to be added to my already lengthy list of wrongdoings.

            I will admire him as a work of art.

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I randomly clicked play on the Chinese movie Science & Sensibility. because, well, the title suggests itโ€™s Austen adjacent, and I figured if all else fails it will make me fall asleep. But, four minutes in, and I realize itโ€™s a reunion of 2/3 of the Medical Examiner, Dr Quin team, and I am all in for Zhang Ruo Yun and Li Xian.

Itโ€™s probably dumb, but thatโ€™s fine.

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I have another book for you to check out. Also, next week I hope to have a website up and running to continue these recommendations, and to also have a Beanie book club. Let me know if you want to join in and be tagged when I get that together.

Every once in a while a book comes along that hits the sweet spot intersecting several of your disparate interests. This weekโ€™s recommendation, The Plotters by Kim Un-su is one of those books.

Writing the above lines, I started humming โ€œMy Favorite Thingsโ€ from The Sound of Music:

Ambiguous morals and heroes so moody
Library settings and characters knitting
Organized murders tidied with ease
These are a few of my favorite things.

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    Okay, I know that didnโ€™t really work, but canโ€™t you just imagine Maria and Von Trapp kids calming themselves during a thunderstorm by singing about assassins? (Note: Thunder and lightning are currently putting on a show outside my window. Coincidence?)

    But, as always, I digress. So, in his only English translated novel, The Plotters, Kim Un-su imagines a well-organized murder-for-hire industry in South Korea. This thriller playfully crafts a hidden, yet influential, society of assassins and the infrastructure needed to plan, carry out, and clean up each job.

    Reseng, โ€œwas found in a garbage can. Or who knows, maybe he was born in a garbage can.โ€ Raised in a convent until he was adopted at age four by Old Raccoon, Reseng grows up in a library. A library that serves as the criminal headquarters for Old Raccoonโ€™s network, and is therefore, crawling with assassins, hired guns, and bounty hunters. And well, of course, Reseng slides easily into this line of work.

    But, as with most careers, there comes a time when a person becomes weary of what they are doing, question the meaning of their work, and ponder the value of the outcomes. Capitalistic economic factors, bureaucratic politics, and maybe even morality, begin to chip away at Resengโ€™s pride(?) in his work. Like any valuable, but yet mid-level, minion in a corporate structure, Reseng begins to wonder why he does what he does.

    To be honest, Iโ€™m finding it difficult to encapsulate this novel succinctly. At its core, itโ€™s a thriller and a detective novel, but itโ€™s also coming of age novel of sorts. Not just for Reseng, but for the economic and cultural structures of South Korea. There is a battle brewing between the old and the new, between tradition and cold efficiency, and Reseng is at a crossroads and needs to choose, not between right or wrong, to kill or not to kill, but rather, well, I wonโ€™t spoil it.

    This book was fun for me. First, because I love moral ambiguity. I love characters who skirt the lines of societal norms. In short, give me a nest of assassins and criminals, and Iโ€™m in. If you give me an assassin who lives in, and works out of, a library, and Iโ€™m doubly in. Add in a cranky, knitting librarian, a pair of quirky, possibly dangerous sisters, and now youโ€™re really talking. Then add some dashes of philosophical musings, practical job tips (assassination related here), and literary references and touches throughout, and Iโ€™m gonna love you.

    If that sort of thing speaks to you too The Plotters might just be as enjoyable for you as it was for me.

    Side note: When I really like a book, and can easily imagine it being adapted into a film or series, I have a tendency to cast the major players. This one was easy. Yoo Ah-in is Reseng, and Kim Mi-kyung is quite obviously the cranky, knitting, librarian.

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      I hope The Plotter is enough of a success, that more of Kim Un-su’s work is translated in the near future. While it clearly contains many familiar mystery thriller elements, there is also a non-western feel to the plot and characters that I found intriguing. I didn’t know what was going to happen. I didn’t know how it would be resolved, or if it would even be resolved, and I kept putting off reading the ending because I didn’t want to let Reseng and cohorts go.

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    I also want to talk about both the translation and audiobook readings of novels.

    Translation is an art in itself. As a person who is only fluent in one language, and despite studying three others, only attained at my best very elementary speaking and reading levels in the course of those studies, I hesitate to criticize the hard work of any translator. However, Iโ€™ve made a point over the few years to read more translated works. Usually, I find they are done beautifully, and I assume I am getting not only the literal meaning of the original language, but as close as it can come to the same style, tempo, and tone as the author conveyed in the original text. Though, sadly, this is not always the case as the controversy surrounding Han Kangโ€™s The Vegetarian illustrates. (You can read about it here https://www.koreaexpose.com/deborah-smith-translation-han-kang-novel-vegetarian/)

    So, why do I bring this up? Well, if I had come across The Plotters three years ago, I would have breezed through it with little thought to particular phrases and titles, but since becoming familiar with dramas, and learning bits of Korean language, formalities, and terms of address, there were moments when I found the translation, well, irritating. Iโ€™m not sure if it is because of the genre, and the publisherโ€™s likely target audience, that they made the decision to not use any Korean words. But, more than a few times I found myself wishing they had kept the Korean and just provided the reader with either a footnote, or a glossary explaining the term and its significance. My irritation was most pronounced whenever I came across the words โ€œbig brotherโ€ instead of the more correct hyung, as big brother doesnโ€™t quite convey the relational complexity of the original term. I felt it was a dumbing down of sorts, and that the publisher is not giving the intelligence and cultural awareness of their readers enough credit. Oh, and donโ€™t get me started on how they decided to spell characterโ€™s names.

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      Additionally, I read a lot of books by listening to them. Not only does this allow me to give my eyes a bit of break, but I can multitask and still hammer away at my never decreasing to-be-read list. While I am recommending The Plotters, I am not recommending the audiobook. If this had been a novel written by a western author, and set in a North American or European setting, I would wholeheartedly tell you to listen to it. The reader has a pleasant voice, an easy rhythm, and differentiates well between characters. I will even give him credit for correctly pronouncing names, places, and foods (as much as this non-Korean speaker can tell). However, the flavor of his speech, the modulation of his tone, and the accents he uses for voicing these very much Korean players, is so decidedly and obtrusively American based that it was disrupting my enjoyment of the book. For example, there was one thuggish, low-level assassin that the reader gave a vaguely New York Irish thug type accent. Ugh.

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      On the note of Han Kang’s Vegetarian, I actually am thinking of reading the original (it will super hard for me, I am not there yet in my Korean but I want to try and see the controversy of the translation)
      Even then The vegetarian(translated version) will remain “the book” closest to my heart, there was never a book which talked about what I dreamed of so much, almost like the brother in law… It was scary but so close to heart… all three of them were a part of me and this was why it was so scary…

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        I started reading The Vegetarian but it was harsh. However I did read the authors other book called Human Acts – and that was powerful.
        So maybe I should try The Vegetarian again. One thing I usually don’t think about is the translation and if I’m missing anything.
        Thanks for starting this discussion/book group @egads!!!!!!!!!

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          I don’t about you , but I have a love hate relation* with food! And for years I have been telling my mom, that evolution went wrong way and humans should be able to photosynthesize. I even have a draft version of a sci-fi short story on my computer…. that should explain very well, why this book is closest to me! And why I identify so closely with every character in the book! And I was shocked and amazed and scared by it.

          *I love to cook food even though I may not want to eat it.

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            I think mine is mostly a love relationship with food. My waist and thighs are a testament to it!

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            I’ve had a complicated and adversarial relationship with food in the last few years, so I’ve purposefully avoided reading The Vegetarian. Particularly, since Human Acts was such a viscerally powerful read.

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          I am now reading Human acts and White book!

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      On the other hand, I don’t think I agree with everything written in the article above:

      Cho Jae-ryong, a literary critic and professor, points this out when he argues that Yeong-hye is โ€œpassive and even dream-like, suppressed by Koreaโ€™s patriarchal system.โ€ In contrast, the article states that Cho feels that โ€œSmithโ€™s incorrect interpretation portrayed her as someone who is active and rational.โ€

      This is not true at all, the critic dreamt of it on her own, at no point does it seem that Yeong hye is rational or active… (or defiant more just because of English words than because of her actions…)

      And the rest of the lines were totally meaningless as well about western readers asking for active and rational things ….

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      I have so much respect for translators. To be able to understand not one but two (or more) languages to such an extent is incredible and enviable.

      But I did also get irritated by the same thing whenever I picked up a Korean novel in the library, that because of my own personal exposure to the language, some of the translations were frustrating.
      This book sounds fun though. I’ll try check it out at some point.

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        I think what frustrated me most with this translation of The Plotters is not the skill of the translator, but rather I think I see the heavy hand of a publisher trying to appeal to an audience that might not want to read a “foreign” book.

        I am in awe of translators to be honest. And then to be a translator for a piece of art….good golly, a truly enviable artistic skill in itself.

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      I’d like to be added to the bookclub please. I’ll probably be an underperformer until life mellows a bit though.

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    I want to be a part of the beanie book club! ^^

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    Me me – I’d love to talk/writeabout/discuss books!

    I like how you write about the book and your thoughts. It makes me want to try and explain more coherently how and why I loved Tara Westmoreland’s memoir “Educated”. I spent most of last weekend working and listening to it.
    Now I’ll look for The Plotters.

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      Educated is so good, and a horrifying look at into a subsection of US culture.

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        I am reading it now! I look forward to both of your comments on it!

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        Oh dear it was horrifying. Some of it resonated with me as one of 9 kids in a big catholic family – my dad wasn’t quite like that, but he had a temper.
        The other part is one of my older brothers is a born-again-fundamentalist christian – and not in the most open-minded way. He had created something of a bunker for Y2K and I think all 9 of his kids were home-schooled. Yes it reminds me of him I just realized.
        His eldest daughter left the family when she was 17 or 18 – I don’t know if anyone has contact with her.
        It just goes to show that religion can be very very divisive, but a good solid education is critical!
        But Idaho is a gorgeous state…

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        I just finished listening to Educated last Friday! So good!

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          Did you listen through Audible? The narrator was fantastic in all her voice of the people in the book.
          I read somewhere that her brother (can’t remember which one – but also one of the bros with a PHD) actually commented on her book on Amazon. But it was taken down. I’ll see if I can find the link to the site where I read it.
          Essentially he said that some of the things she remembered were different than his memories – but on the whole he thought the book was very well done. yeah

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    Sign me up! Beanie book club!

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    Thanks for recommendation, I would love to join book club for Beanies.
    And about translation, I checked local bookstore, and my language version is translation from English, ugh I hate it, I have to look up the English version, it should be forbidden, doing translation of the translation of novels.

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      So much is lost in translation that I cannot even fathom how much more is lost/warped in translating from a translation.

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    I want to join the book club

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    I’d be interested in a beanie book club.

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    Yay, book club!! Iโ€™ll probably just be there just for recommendations but reading your guysโ€™ discussions will be so much fun!

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    Yes a beanie book club would be so much fun! I’m still making my way through books everyone has recommended, I’m adding this one to the list.

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I have some thoughts about Perfume, its traumatizing beginning, and how it may not be the offensive crapshow that it seemed to be at the start, and I just need to quickly write them down and

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    Itโ€™s been a few days since Perfume ended. To say that I loved this drama while it was airing would be a stretch. Truth be told, the first episodes were incredibly upsetting for me for a variety of reasons. Reasons that I know were shared by many viewers who dropped the drama with an unceremonious thud and ran away. I get it.

    However, for other reasons that I donโ€™t fully understand, I did stick it out. Nervously. Was it that I wanted to see Shin Sung-rok finally not be the villain? Partly. But I think I was mostly curious to see if a kdrama would finally allow a lead romantic partnership between two physically and psychologically imperfect leads.

    So, what exactly is my point for this post? Well, Iโ€™ve realized that everything that I hated and found traumatizing about the beginning of the drama was there purposefully. The offensive fat-shaming, the graphic suicide attempts, and the background music that elevated both of these things to make Min Jae Hee both monstrous and pathetic, were not there because she is, but because this is how she sees herself.

    Yes, yes, I know that culturally, in both real and drama life, appearance, weight, education, and career success, all play a major role in how others perceive us. But I think what I missed while watching the drama unfold, is that the camera, the direction, and the music, is revealing Min Jae Heeโ€™s perception of her own worth as a human being.

    The hulking, clothes ripping transformations when the magical perfume wore off? Min Jaeโ€™s viewpoint of her change from her young model slim self. Not just in the moments we see it happening in the drama, but also Min Jaeโ€™s perception of herself during those years of her marriage. That her husband continually cheats on her with women that look like her younger self just confirms her perceptions that she is now both worthless and monstrous.

    Itโ€™s important that Seo Yi Do recognizes her. Not the perfume transformed Min Ye Rin, but the real Min Jae Hee. But itโ€™s even more important that Min Jae Hee, for the first time perhaps, sees that there is someone who not only sees her but also values her. (Is Seo Yi Do a bit weird, naรฏve, and problematic in that love? Yes, but this isnโ€™t my topic here.)

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    What we do see with the direction as Min Jae Hee begins to gather confidence (slowly, oh so very slowly) is that the transformations still retain the offensively shaming clothes ripping effects and sounds, but they lessen over the course of the 16 episodes. Additionally, this is no magical emotional transformation even if the camera doesnโ€™t linger quite so much, and the clothing doesnโ€™t become quite so tattered, because even in the final episodes Min Jae Hee is still not fully confident in her own skin and head.

    I was worried for the majority of the drama that it would be unable to give me the ending I wanted. That instead, like that drama that shall not be named (I will always love the security couple though), the OTP could only find true love and happiness together as โ€œperfectโ€ people. But Perfume, stuck the landing. Moreover, they managed to make a timeskip, a trope I usually despise, a meaningful and necessary space for our leads to heal and grow individually. But most importantly, they didnโ€™t heal miraculously, rather they remained themselves, both physically and psychologically, but they were both able to accept that self and be kinder to it. Especially Min Jae Hee.

    And now dramaworld, you better give me more Ha Jae Sook in fully realized, realistic, and romantic roles.

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      I’ve just started watching it but the show pulled a (writerly) trick in the first episode that made me feel it was going to be okay. It showed that OTT murder/suicide plot and AT THE SAME TIME had a character (a reporter?) tell off SSR’s designer character for glorifying murder and suicide- implying that the writer knew full well what she was doing there.

      But I did wait until I was spoilered about the ending, and made sure it was okay, before I dived in.

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        Oh, you’re right. I had forgotten about that scene. Maybe that’s one reason why I stuck with it even when I was horrified. I should go back and rewatch the first episodes.

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          I felt from early on (with the benefit of hindsight lol) that the drama was feeling sorry for Jae Hee. Wasnโ€™t it in ep 2 or 3, that she said that her husband made her eat by herself on the balcony and also that the daughter admitted to being embarrrassed by her? Those scenes were heartbreaking and made me think that the show was on her side, in spite of the clothes-bursting horribleness and clunky beauty & the beast music choices.

          Of course they could still have gone the awful Birth of a Beauty route and made her skinny and perfect in order to get her revenge. Iโ€™m so glad they didnโ€™t do thatโ€ฆ

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            I always felt the drama was on her side, but yes Birth of a Beauty was also on my mind. Add in that both men were obsessed with her younger self, and this could have gone very terribly wrong.

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            The beauty and the beast song choice was interesting..one can argue the show was trying to tell that Jae Hee is the beast and Yi Do is beauty. But I saw it the other way around. Yi Do had all the beast’s traits whereas Jae Hee is Belle, she’s considerate and kind. It also made me think of how different a viewer can view a drama. The same scene can be interpreted in any way possible, ultimately it depends on how an individual views it.

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          The reporter was also in a another interview with Yi Do. I thought it was interesting that nearly everything that happened in the early episodes had a counter scene in the newer episodes. How Yi Do’s views has changed, how Jae Hee’s views has changed were told sparsely throughout. I applaud the writer for being able to tie scenes and make it all relatable. I felt a sense of closure with Perfume’s conclusion as nearly all my questions (for the main trio) were addressed.

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            I think I need to do a rewatch to fully appreciate what the writer was trying to do because I was so on edge throughout in fear that it was going to go wrong, so I missed some stuff.

            It also examines the many forms of obsessions, both love/hate, and real/fandom, can become unhealthy and destructive.

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        I was waiting for the ending too before I wanted to give it a chance.

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          Perfectly reasonable plan. After the drama that shall not be named, I am very wary of endings lately.

          I’m looking at you too Veronica Mars. Talk about completely ruining an entire series with the latest season finale. It’s been a week and I’m still ragey about it.

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            I’ve decided not to watch the new season of Veronica once I saw a spoiler. I came to the show very late but i know that had very loyal fans that helped keep the show and characters alive and it feels like a slap to them. Not that writers need to do fan service, but… Also, how traumatized can one character be?
            And I (big Gilmore’s fan) thought GG had a bad extra season.

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            I also came late to Veronica, but really loved how the show developed her character. It was such a cheap trick, especially for a female character that has been so deeply traumatized.

            Honestly the season, up until the last 20 or so minutes, is fantastic. I was loving it, but they officially killed it off for me in the end. I’m tired of women’s pain being exploited as the only way they can move narratively forward.

            I don’t think I made it through the first episode of the GG reboot. Those characters did not age well.

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            That Veronica Mars finale was seriously upsetting. I’m a huge fan of the original series, and even though I didn’t go in expecting it to be on par with those seasons, I didn’t expect that regressive ending either. I really can’t believe they did that.

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          Same here. I was one of those who dropped this show after the first episode. But after seeing some posts on the fan wall, I contemplated picking it up again. I decided to wait this one out to see if it was worth it in the end. I might give it a try now.

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      Well said, @egads. 😊

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    Also, I think another first-time writer (as far as I could see) telling a different story. Or maybe I should saw: puts a different slant on a familiar story.

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      I hope that despite the low ratings the writer is able to continue to put different slants on familiar stories, and is able to keep getting better and better.

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        Well, at least she didn’t change the drama halfway through in a desperate attempt to chase those ratings (unlike some other drama we shan’t mention)

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        I would like to see more from this writer. She put a twist on common drama tropes and manage to include all sorts of art in the script: music, literature, paintings etc. The characters feel developed but still matches the initial character description. I truly think there were no major changes to the script because what perfume ahjusshi said in ep 16 tied with what he said in ep 1.

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    Thank you @egads for sharing your thoughts. I have similar thoughts but you wrote it in a more coherent and beautiful way. 😊

    From the promos I was wary of what Perfume would be like. I was aware that I might not like it despite being so excited to see SSR’s first foray as main lead. Ep 1 was weird and kinda validated my doubts. I didn’t expect the perfume to turn her into her young self, I was intrigued by that. Ep 2 solidified my reasons to stay, it was telling Jae Hee’s story. I was watching this from her point of view.

    I noticed that no one else is saying much about her appearance except a select few, it was usually her downgrading her self. I can only imagine what emotional abuse she had to go through and how devastated she is with her life. The perfume brought her a new chance to relive her long lost dream, a dream she has forgotten after years. She grabbed it as soon as she gets it, determined to be happier before her time comes to an end. She did think it through for a while, she did not really question why she changed, but she thought how to use this change and make the best out of it. It’s good to notice that Jae Hee was never greedy, she wants to relive her days as a model and finally walk the runway. She got offered to be an actress, an idol but she turned them all away..she only wanted one thing, and she held on to that.

    Her journey to self discovery was so so slow. But it was worth the wait. She did not change because of the magical perfume. The perfume only gave her an illusion to realize a dream and changed her appearance, all the emotional thinking had to be done by herself. Once she understood that she needs love herself as is, we got a more confident and radiant Jae Hee.

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Someone\’s feeling a bit broody.

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    That said, Gun, your little squid is very very young. So, no.

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      Reminiscing Xiao Aiโ€™s baby days has got him being senti and all. He wants one for himself 😆

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    What.the.actual….

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      He is a nurturer. And honestly, when they do have babies, he’s totally gonna be a stay at home dad while she’s out programming the world.

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        But NOT for a very very long time.

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        Oh I can totally picture this!! I so agree that he would be the one looking after the kids. Thatโ€™s just so him!

        If he can think of adopting Xiao Ai in a heartbeat, imagine how heโ€™ll treat his own.

        But NOT for a very very long time

        Oh I donโ€™t know about that, egads; This is Gun weโ€™re talking about 😂 this man knows no self control for anything Squid-related.

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          Gun is a grown ass man who can take five seconds to prevent a pregnancy until Squid at least gets her degree, establishes her career a bit, and is firmly in her mid to late twenties. She’s so young.

          *removes protective mom hat.

          On the other hand, if Squid decides to get broody, there’s no hope of waiting. This man can not deny her a damn thing. He’s lucky she’s a thrifty and kind of person.

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        Yes, he would be the one who would nest. I love that about him that he is a nurturer. All these traits we typically assign to women. Does men a disservice too I think.

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Yaya is the MVP of Go Go Squid ep. 25, but her apartment hunting technique is a bit unusual.

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    YaYa for President!

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    I’m in the middle of watching Episode 25. I loved how Han Shang Yan’s friends and Ya Ya played along without being told, so quick on the uptake to make the Gun and Squid ship sail again!

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      Xiao Ai is Gun’s ultimate cockblocker. lol

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        I love it when he brings up her dad to rile up Gun because it’s very effective. LOL Happy to see Gun pissed even though I think he knows Solo won’t ever do that.

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          Okay, but can we actually talk about how sexy Gun’s eyes were when they were following Nian Nian’s movements at Xiao Mi’s crib? I was melting how he eased into the couch, propped his elbow, and only his eyes were moving whenenever she was?????????

          Also let’s not forget how he just cut into the conversation, telling Xiao Mi wtf is he doing asking this “little girl” to carry around those grocery items???????

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            Gun does know how to use his eyes, and Xiao Mi knew exactly which button to push.

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            Yup! Noticed that too. He really is smitten, isn’t he? I just wish he’d man up, apologize and stand up to Tong Nian’s mom.

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    I like these two so much. Little Mi is just so quietly happy when she is around.
    Creative PPL for that mask.

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      I`m glad he didn’t kiss her with mask on. That’s just yucky.

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        SAME. I was going to be so grossed out for poor Yaya.

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        Me too. The angle was so awkward too. As he was leaning in, all I could think was: “Oh boy, you’re twisting your spine, I’m seeing some serious neck and shoulder pain in your future”, which, I guess, is not what you want your audience to be thinking while watching a kiss scene.

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      Both Tong Nian and Sun Yaya seem to quiet the minds of Han Shang Yan and Mi Shao Fei.

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        They’re perfect for these boys’ personalities.

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          I particularly like how the boys are in awe and proud of how smart those girls are.

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            Yes. There is mutual respect for each others chosen professions and skills.
            I like how Little Mi listened to YaYa’s opinion once he agreed to her helping him look for an apartment.

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    I’m love with Gun!!!

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Not to be ungrateful for all the work they are doing what with subbing two episodes everyday, but could the Squid subbers hurry up because I need this angsty period to be over.

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    😂😂 no one wants to work on the angst. I noticed they slowed down beginning 20.

    Before weโ€™re caught up with the episodes!

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    I have no idea what I’m going to do once this show is over.

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    Episode 22-23 was so slow, like over a day behind. And we’re not used to it because all the earlier episodes were subbed fast. Did they run out of steam? I’m getting impatient because I see all the clips of later episodes/scenes online and I want to watch them now. *sigh*

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You\’re Invited

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Today, 7 pm CST
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