Beanie level: Eunuch in drag

Just dropped in to say Sulli is the kinda of person I should Stan. My girl is finally going to cash on the unwarranted hate she’s been getting. It’s a show that writes itself!
While I know about Sulli and I know she’s been in projects, this my first time seeing her in something other than a scandal. I was never a fan of f(x) even though I like a lot of the members’ solo career. She seems like someone I could like.

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I’m honestly curious about the idea behind people going on hunger strikes or setting themselves ablaze as a form of protest. This was something I only encountered when I was introduced to dramas and I found it hard to understand. I still struggle with understanding how that could make a possible difference but it seems like it’s an actual way to protest in SK.
I don’t see that working in my country. You mostly likely went to protest because of whatever unfair treatment you’ve been receiving and you’re honestly hoping for a change. But it’s the same people who subjected you to the unfair or inhumane treatments you’re protesting to! They most definitely never gave a shit about your wellbeing and they most definitely won’t care now either.

It could be a way of getting the public’s attention too. In the dramaworld, the public hardly gives a shit either because it seems everyone else is too busy with their lives. Or they did give a shit but only for a short period of time because something else has gotten everyone’s attention. I just don’t understand why their means of protest is something that puts them at a disadvantage. You were already a victim of sorts. Why are you giving yourself a new way to suffer? Maybe it’s to convey how serious and determined they are.

The acting of setting yourself ablaze – that is one thing I’ll never understand. One has to be in a different state of mind to do that. The intense amount of pain that comes with that is insane. Not only do you get an incredibly violent death, your family suffers too. And as we all know, it will soon be swept under the rug and life will move on. So at the end of the day, nothing was gained and only you died tragically. And in the event you survive, your quality of life is incredibly diminished and your family now has to take care of you and the crippling debt that comes with medical service. I guess no one in a clear state of mind will be able to make that sort of decision. Maybe that’s the point. They felt like they were driven to the point where they had to make such a drastic decision. But…. being set ablaze is one of the most gruesome ways to go though. No one but you, your family and the bystanders is in pain. The people responsible won’t feel a thing!

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    I’m from Europe but hunger strike are pretty popular in here, weirdly enough latest one were among doctors and teachers. I think it’s to put gov.bodies on the spot like “Look what you make me do to myself” and it usually work in most cases. From what I remember there were cases of self immolation, mostly during 60 – 70 but in the early 2000’s there were quite a number of students in Czech Republic who choose to die that way.

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      There were Jan Palach and 2 more guys I think. There will be a movie about Jan Palach and he’s considered something like a national hero of Czechoslovakia. There are two things coming to mind when talking about sovietic occupation in 1968 – Ladislav Bielik’s photo Tank Man which was taken in Slovakia and Jan Palach as martyrdom of communism in Czechoslovakia.

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    Umm, It is not so uncommon in India or lets say its super common in India, our independence struggle from Britain was a lot about Hunger strikes, our fight against corruption is a lot of hunger strike, our fight to clean our rivers is hunger strikes (has not been much effective though), our fight to get doctors better paid is also hunger strike, and so on… even our fight to get university professor changed is hunger strike, even when we can’t eat food in our cafeteria because its so bad qualilty we go on hunger strike (this one must be most understandable).

    Self-immolation: That’s too hard for me to say and its a kind of mindset where maybe they feel that if can’t get what they want they should rather die because its depriving them of something extremely fundamental. I am no one to judge them but I have seen this a lot in my country, and no, its sometimes has the desired effect (many students did self-immolation in Hydrebad in India to get a new state of Telangana and they got it but it was also a lot of other protests and factors).

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WWW: SEARCH QUERY
I really, really like Scarlet! I‘m not sure I’d get along with her in real life but then again, I only have about 3 friends in total so, that means nothing. I don’t agree with her violence but I love everything else about her. Her loving makjang dramas sealed the deal for me. I don’t like makjang dramas but I like that she likes it!

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    Makjang dramas are kinda good for venting out. One can scream at makjang characters for their ridiculous decisions and no actual person is hurt. Hehe

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    I’m her except for the love of makjang dramas and martial arts skills. Which is good because I’d probably be behind bars if my rage finds a way to present itself. 😆

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    I love her too. We are given different aspects of her character – in and out of work.

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Okay, I love WWW premier episodes! It’s just one thing – except the excessive use of lightening (don’t know the appropriate terminology for it) – I don’t like or understand: why is Jang Ki Yong there? I like the actor but I don’t get his role yet. His character is coming across very flat especially since the other characters are already so layered.
I know we’re only two episodes in so it might be too early to judge. I just hope we get more insight into his character and he doesn’t end up a one dimensional character for the purpose of giving her a Ba Tae Min a love interest. I wouldn’t so much mind that either except it’s a waste of his talent. It’s just that, during the promotions, it seemed like he had a bigger role to play.

All in all, I’m looking forward to Bae Tae Min and ‘scarlet’ knocking heads. I just already love both characters. And Bae Tae Min’s official lackey – he’s cute. The whole ‘English name’ thing in Barro is hilarious! I couldn’t keep a straight face when they called each other ‘Scarlet’, ‘Brian’, ‘Alex’. It’s just so weird!

Once again, I crawl back into my hole to despair in exams.

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    Personally, it seems like the traditional power dynamics are reversed in WWW. Watching too many dramas and movies underutilizing women makes me think they might do the same thing with the men but with giving a few more spotlights.

    If everyone had the same importance, it would be the best.

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      I really hope writer gonna flesh out Mo gun so we can understand who he is as a character. Right now he feel like a blank sheet to me… the same with the other men in the other two woman life 🙂 I do not see why we can´t have an equal balance between the woman and the men in this drama.

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      I really want them to add more depth to their male characters. I want them to prove you can have layered characters regardless of gender. I normally never like dramas/movies with ‘feministic’ or ‘women empowerment’ themes (Hollywood) not because of the message but because it always feels like they’re trying to capitalize on what a large percentage of the internet world agrees on. You know how it’s the ‘thing’ to do to make fun of Donald Trump or when it was Justin Bieber’s turn… or even identity politics… it’s like they make it into a trend!
      Not that it’s a bad thing to capitalize but it’s always done in a fake way – almost like they don’t believe their message either but they want to sell it to us. Anyway, I digress.
      This doesn’t feel like that to me. I don’t see ‘strong’ women, I just see different ambitious women – you know, normal people you come across everywhere. So I wish they’ll treat their male characters with the same respect.

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        I agree with you. I misued the term ‘strong’ and should have chosen ‘ambitious’ to qualify them.

        If only women are put upfront, the problem will be the same about different treatment of male and female characters.

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    and i don’t understand why successful women means those hideous pantsuits..
    like women are trying to be men and drawing their strength from there..

    i like legally blonde.. that was perfect.. poodle and pink in a world of grey

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      It’s a matter of style, I guess. I don’t like the fashion they dress a lot of male (Ryan Gold 🙄😒) and female characters in. I don’t like bright colors and flashy patterns – especially Neon colors! But some people do like them though. I generally don’t even pay attention to the fashion unless it’s something that grabs my attention which usually means I found it hideous – again, Ryan Gold and the likes and an array of so MANY of our drama ‘candies’.

      But I didn’t notice anything in the drama bar Bae Taemi’s incredibly bright red suit at the end of the of the 2nd episode. That means I didn’t find anything hideous.

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        hmm.. ya they just look super ill fitted clothes.. women wear pant suits. but when you start dressing up every woman in your story in those clothes and the ones who don’t are “inferior”.. that’s just ..

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WWW: So happy Ye Soo-Jung ahjumma finally has a role where she’s not hopeless or crying or in poverty. It’s nice seeing her be a rich bitch!

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    She was a photographer playing cupid in Twelve Nights.

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I crawled out of my hole to say this: I really, really enjoyed WWW episode 1 and I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s episode. Now I can resume my studies. Im Soo Jung 💜

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    Lol, same.
    I started studying today much later then I should’ve. Finals are important but I kept refreshing the page for subs over and over again. Whoops.
    Good luck on your studies!

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      I feel you. I had to sit for an exam today (it went well, Thank God!) and had to pull an all-nighter. Just when I thought I couldn’t possibly stay awake, I saw subs and watched the first few minutes. It woke me up immediately 😂 but I slept almost immediately I put it off and caught just two hours of sleep.
      I ran home after my exam to watch the rest. I still haven’t slept yet I was so sleepy before the exam that I had to take energy drink. 😂😂

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Beanies, do you ever rewatch any of the old dramas that you loved – dramas that introduced you to dramaworld – and have a funny, bitter taste in your mouth? Do you wonder: why did I like this, again? Do you notice terrible flaws (not even the directing or plot line) in the characters and wonder why you ever found them so loveable? It’s like you’ve been doused with bucket of cold reality.

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    I rewatch all shows I’ve loved many many times, but I stop the moment I feel I am having different feelings this time around. Keeping the lovely memory is much more important for me than laughing at it/myself.

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    I rewatch a lot but rarely get this feeling. However, to this day, I still don’t know how I finished Lie to Me.

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    2001s “Hotelier” brought me into Kdramaland, then 2000s “All About Eve”and 2002s “Winter Sonata” followed (To clarify, I began my Kdrama watching journey in 2002, the same year “Winter Sonata” came out, but watched the other 2 dramas first in that year)…. I’ve revisit these 3 dramas a few times over the years, once in a blue moon, and the one that I’ve had the most critique for in every rewatch/revisit of it is “Hotelier”, despite “Winter Sonata” being the most trope-filled and supposedly has the most eye rolling moments for said tropes lol “All About Eve” seems the most “realistic” and grounded one out of the 3 imo, and non-anorexic looking Jang Dong Gun also helps (although, in “Winter Sonata”, there’s beautified Bae Yong Joon 😏)

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Rewatching ep 2 of Marriage, not dating and I still hate Jeong Jinwoon’s character. I hated him in 2015 when I watched it and I still hate him now. There was just something incredibly fake about him and he just seemed like a 2nd ML that’s supposedly sweet but actually forceful! It just irritates me! 😤

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This is somewhat random but I just read that some actress from ‘Secret Life of my Secretary’ had to drop out because of an assault case. I didn’t really read about the case but I think she was the assailant and she was drunk.

Then I read a comment about how being a horrible drunk doesn’t make you a terrible person. I, then, had like a flashback of so many violent cases (sexual, domestic, child and verbal abuse) where the assailants always gave the ‘I was drunk card!’
To be frank, I was very irritated!

I’m not referring to the actress in particular because I didn’t follow up on her case so I don’t have enough knowledge to make a statement but I can’t get behind that thought process of blaming alcohol.

Millions drink every day but majority aren’t abusing people. It’s not the alcohol- it’s you! I understand alcohol can alter the state of mind, make you lose sense of inhibitions but it doesn’t make you assault someone. That’s on you and the sooner you own up to it, the faster you can get help if you need it.
I feel it’s an excuse the abusers give themselves so they don’t fully acknowledge they did what they did. YOU violated the person not the alcohol!

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    She got in the passenger seat of a taxi and started to yell and beat up the driver who happened to be over 60 years old. When taken to the police station she got violent there too.

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    It’s going to make it a little harder for me to watch. They’re going to try to edit some of her out, but she’s an important side character.

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Why is everyone in dramaland always related? 😒

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Probably an unpopular opinion: Arthdal Chronicles.
I’m not looking forward to it at all. To be honest, I’m a skeptical it’d be very good. I’ve tried reading the synopsis and it was all kinds of confusing but even asides that, it just seems like a grand cast, a new concept and an outstanding budget that will end up lackluster. I hope it doesn’t but I’ve noticed when dramaworld go out fo their comfort zones (which I’ll always appreciate and welcome), the bigger the budget, the bigger the expectations and harder they crash!
And I just can’t seem to take Kim Ji-Won and Song Joong-Ki seriously. Don’t get me wrong, they’re very talented actors. SJK was phenomenal in a werewolf boy but the only other project I’ve seen him in is DOTS and that was major lackluster show. Kim Ji-Won too – I loved her in Fight My way and seen her in supporting roles. But.. they’re just too pretty for the setting. They shine through the screen in the trailers and I’m unable to be immersed because it doesn’t look like they belong. That must be tough for either of them as actors. I wonder if there’s a role they’d like to play – esp. SJG – but can’t because they’re too pretty and the audience might not take them seriously.

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    I don’t think you are the only one in this. I gagged and cringed when watching the trailer. Seriously.

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    Absolutely nothing about this show invites me to watch. It looks like a hot mess. I will enjoy watching it crash and burn from a nice safe distance.

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    I didn’t expect anything from this drama. And with the recent poster they released, it’s clear an absolute no from me.

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    Yeah I was hyped to see SJK on the small screen again (didn’t watch DOTS), but I lowered my expectations for this new drama after seeing the actual teasers/pics.

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I’m a Kim Go Eun mega fan but I’m on the fence about KES. Judging by the reviews, Mr. Sunshine helped people gain a little more trust in her but I still have my reservations. My problem with her is that she’s clearly a talented writer who builds an interesting world and then chucks everything out for vanity. She’s admitted to it before so she does it on purpose. Her female characters hardly have a personality too.
Lee Min-Ho on the other hand, I’m okay with him. I’ve seen quite a lot of his projects and I’m somewhat neutral about him. I think he’s a good enough actor. Gangnam Blues is the best thing I’ve ever seen him in. I think he’ll do well in that genre.

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    I hated every drama she wrote except for Mr Sunshine. The heroine was a bad ass which I did not expect being written from this writer. I will sample it before I call it quits.

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I should be studying – seriously, I should but… but… everything else is so MUCH more interesting. Like, have you seen any of the Wired videos on YT? Who knew talking about accents could be so fun?

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    Everything looks so much more interesting when you don’t want to study.

    And if you don’t do it now, you’re going to regret it… that’s a vicious circle.

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Why does YJG keep doing this to me? 😭I want to watch something he’s in. I attempted his last drama (which was good) but it’s Sageuk and I got bored real quick. He’s such a talented actor and I want to watch his works.

I don’t know but I can never seem to get behind robot-love dramas. We’ve had about three (Absolute boyfriend being the third) in the last two years and beanies go crazy for it. Beanies, whose taste seem to align with mine, also enjoying it makes me want to jump aboard the train with them but I just can’t. I was wondering why but I think I finally figured it out.
I can’t feel any attachment or connection to a ‘robot’ no matter how adorable the actor is. I just see the future of the relationship as bleak… and sad. So, what happens with the robot later? It’s not real – not human – so it’s incapable of reciprocating your feelings. Everything just seems either painfully fake or sad (in the sense that the human in love is escaping reality). I know a lot in the drama world require suspending your disbeliefs but I don’t know why I just can’t with this. Then again, there are people IRL who are genuinely in love with machines. Whatever that ‘genuineness’ means is something that’s being debated.

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    what are the dramas that DB community like? pretty sure I’m not in that group seeing I have no collection watching anything with the same concept~
    lol

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    *sigh*

    We’re in the same boat. I can just not get behind this robot love. And I also really REALLY wanna watch YJG again. The last time I saw him was in Circle, but ever since then the dramas he’s been in were either straight out disasters that I just couldn’t finish, or sageuks… which he always does well in, but which I never watch because i just find them boring.
    I just want him to be in a well-written, interesting modern drama again! 😭

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    I dislike robot-love dramas too. But are you counting I am Not a Robot as the first one? Or am I forgetting one?

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      Yes, I am counting it as the first one. I know she wasn’t a robot but the ML thought so for a while… I think.

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        He did, yes. But to me it was more digestible knowing that she wasn’t.

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Was trying to think of another romcom male lead I really liked. A romcom lead who respected his partner and wasn’t weirdly possessive. I can only think of Nam Se-Hee. I know Ryan Gold has set a new standard but Se-Hee was damn near perfect!

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    I was legit thinking of this the other day and the other respectable male lead I could think of Nam Se Hee as well!!!!! Damn dramaland you need to step your game up…

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      There is also Dong Man in Fight My Way. A very different kind of man from either Ryan or Se-hee, but when he recognized that she was having nervous stomach troubles, he immediately put away his libido and tried to make her more comfortable. Dong Man may have not been the brightest bulb in the world, but he was good people.

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    I’m really really liking Ryan, but Se-hee still holds first place for me. He doesn’t have the same confidence or openness as RG, but his quiet thoughtfulness, kissing lessons, and kimchi making skills still win for me.

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      Egads, the only sane person left on this website other than me

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        I knew you would show up to defend Se-hee, but I am aghast at how many have jumped ship for a shiny new boy.

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          I was honestly livid when I read this this morning and started typing up a passive-aggressive Se-hee appreciation post outlining all of the many many amazing things about him before work but after 8 hours I didn’t care anymore. Let people be wrong. When they rewatch BTLIOF they will remember.

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        Nah, @mindy I’m also sane. Granted, I’ve been a huge fan of KJW for a long time but if we’re talking about characters, Se-Hee still does it for me.

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      There was something just more endearing about Se Hee. I didn’t and still don’t understand how some people found him emotionless or robotic. As I rewatched it, I realized he did express his emotions just in a different way than most people. I find RG sexier (cause it’s KJW and the show allows him to be sexy) and more confident.

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    I was literally thinking about this today, and I have to admit Ryan Gold has knocked Se-hee from first place as of now! Which I never thought would happen

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      YUYUU YOU TRAITOR

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        I knowww 😭😭
        But Se-hee will always have a special place in my heart, bc I love his “poetic” nature.
        Or maybe RG is number 1a and SH is 1b 😂

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          Yuyuu this just means you need to finally join Rabbit so I can force you to watch BTLIOF clips with me and remind you that Se-hee is the best

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    Nam Se-hee is still the best of all time you silly goose!!!!

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      I mean, I’ve not watched eps 11&12 yet of HPL, but I do think Se Hee is more realistic ~ he has more flaws and quirks of character than the near perfect Ryan.

      But you know, I think I can appreciate and accept either/both snails and lions if the opportunity presented itself 😘

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        Ji-ho is the snail, Se-hee is a cat FAKE FAN

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          Also yes, Se-hee’s realistic imperfections are what make him perfect. He’s a good person with realistic flaws, but flaws that still allow him to be a good person.

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            Exactly, I recall in the recaps many people felt he was too awkward and unlikable. But a real person isn’t always alternating between hot and cocky and cute and humble. His abandonment trauma is his only real “flaw” and trauma is not a flaw, though it might lead to bad reactions to things (which he does not have, he’s all in with DM once he likes her, no pushing away or possessiveness (again I haven’t watched ep 11&12)). Where is the bad hair, the concern over cat poop, the wrong assumptions about food?

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          EXCUSE ME FOR ONLY WATCHING IT TWICE AND NOT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS

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I just rewatched Coffee Prince. When I say, rewatch, I mean I skimmed through very quickly. I just find it very curious that KJW’s character was very open minded in the show. He did mention that the director gave him some sort of freedom regarding the character in an older interview. I wonder if that’s the kind of role he usually assumes – open minded characters.

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    Interesting you mention it. Actually when I saw his character in HPL, I automatically thought it was an extension of his role in Coffee Prince.
    He grew up to be a Ryan – is what I was thinking.

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    Have you seen the film Antique. I would recommend it.

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      Yes, I have. I watched it yesterday. Actually, I stopped halfway… because… Life and exams but I was enjoying it. Yoo Ah In is huge plus. The scene where KJW danced gave me life.

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    He also played Hedwig in the musical.

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      Yeah! It’s a performance I wish I could see. He and Jo Jung Suk appeared on LifeBar to talk about it. From the pictures, he’s beautiful in drag. Not that I’m surprised anyway.

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Beanies, I don’t know where my head has been for it to take me so long to realize the other connection between Kim Jae Wook and Kim Dong Wook (besides The Guest) is from – COFFEE PRINCE! That cute, smaller guy that was always flirty and thirsty – one of the waiters that was made look like a child cause everyone else in the cast was so tall. It’s KIM DONG WOOK! He looks so different now.
I’ve been somewhat avoiding my real life responsibilities but this discovery makes up for a wasted day.

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    It’s always impressive how much he changed compared to Kim Jaewook!

    Note: I love the description of KJW’s character on screen as “Sexy guy waffle Sunki” haha

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    I’ve been enjoying both of them in their current dramas.

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    I’ve seen them in The Guest and this makes me want to watch Coffee Prince, or at least their scenes together 😂😂😂

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      I don’t think they had that many scenes with just them together. They had more scenes with the crew together but KJW is still very much and eye candy so you can check it out 😊

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@waadmay I don’t think you’ve posted these. 😍😍

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Remembering ‘Mary stayed out all night’ has led me to wonder what’s up with Jang Geun Seuk. He was one of my early loves. I was about to say he hasn’t been in anything in a while but then I remembered ‘Switch’ and the fact that he enlisted last year. (So much has happened and too many people enlisted that I lost count.) The last thing I saw him in was ‘The royal gambler’ which I never got to finish because… Sageuk! Was Switch any good? I think some beanies watched it? Would you recommend it?

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    It was good but not exceptional. The trucks of doom early on made me laugh pretty hard.

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    Switch was fun, but nothing spectacular story and plot-wise. It does have an excellent pairing in Jang Geun-suk and Han Ye-ri, though. Her character was pretty badass while he seemed like he was having a lot of fun in the role.

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    Switch was fun, but it took…a long time…for me to get into it. A long time. I remember thinking that I was glad I stuck with it, though, because I did really enjoy it once it got good. I agree with @snarkyjellyfish about the casting: Jang Geun-suk and Han Ye-ri were excellent; they really shone through the whole show.

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    I really enjoyed Switch. It was fun and he did great playing two roles.

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    I liked Switch A Lot. It was perfectly fun. And I couldn’t believe my eyes how good JGS was! It’s like I expected him to have forgotten how to act? Something like that. And he took me by surprise. I loved that we had an effective villain, but the hero got the upper hand quite a lot of times too.

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Kim Jae Wook has been on my radar for years now but I was trying to remember where else I’d seen him apart from his recent works and Coffee Prince. It’s ‘Mary stayed out all night’. I’d forgotten!

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    The Christmas back hug scene from him will forever be one of my favourite back hug scenes despite not liking the drama

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