Beanie level: Loan shark with a heart of gold

The frustration of forgetting to save a link! Can’t find The Untamed ending clip: the one with the onscreen explanation of what we were seeing. This clip is not it! LOL.

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      Hi Untamed Folks, have you seen the video clip of the ending scene where the change of WWX’s clothes was noted? I lost it. But it goes to show that I was watching too fast and failed to see the details. The details made the ending great. 😁

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        I hadn’t seen the video but I had actually noticed that on my first watch (and I’ve watched the last 5 min. like 7 times lol). Shows some amount of time had passed before WY and LZ meet again.

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          Waah!! I did not even notice that there was a change of clothes…. gotta see it again now!

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        I had read this on the Viki comments site. Hadn’t noticed the clothes change before but yes, that’s to denote time has passed. I still don’t think it was very much time.
        Also, the camera panning right – I know that always means something in cinematography but not sure what it meant here.
        The white in his eyes – most take it has the sure sign it’s LanZhan (personally I think it was a reflection of the white board they use). But that isn’t really needed, the ending is so clearly Lan Zhan.
        But I still don’t get exactly what it means “I’m going this way…etc”. Was it just a ruse for the censors? Did it mean something deeper? Was WY calling to LZ with his tune? In the last several scenes at the end, it seemed they would call to each other using their musical instruments. Am I way off base? (I’m terrible at interpreting deeper meanings).

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          I took it as is LZ and WY went their separate ways. Some indeterminate amount of time had passed and LZ didn’t want to be separated from WY any longer so went looking for him. He finds WY and calls out to him. Happy but hesitantly WY turns around hoping it is actually who he thinks it is. Then breaks out into a relieved and happy smile to see it is LZ.

          Is there more to it? I don’t know, I just took it directly as it was shown. I never thought if there was more to it. I think some people just needed as much confirmation as possible that it was LZ. I never thought otherwise so never looked for any deeper signs that it was him. The called out name and WY’s smile at the end was enough for me.

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            Actually, me too! Thanks for the validation of my feelings!

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            I probably have worse eyesight than the people who saw Lan Zhan in Wei Ying’s eyes, but I didn’t see him.
            I did take it as they showed it, too, though. They parted and some time later, maybe once Lan Xichen was done with his isolation or they had found a suitable replacement, Lan Zhan went to find Wei Ying.
            Like @linda-palapala I can’t stand the fact that they apart for too long either, but in this case the separation-reunion trope felt earned.

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            @shinayame I agree. I think seeing LZ in his eyes are fans really reaching for verification. Even after hearing people say that he is reflected in his eyes I still don’t see it and don’t buy it.

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          Heh! I agree with you @linda-palapala about the white reflection in the eyes. I don’t think that in itself was significant.

          I thought it was well done that Wei Ying is shown playing the flute as he left and Lan Zhan stopped to listen, but did not retrace his steps.

          I looked up what YouTube had to say about panning or camera movements. That was pretty interesting in itself, but I feel in this scene, the camera was only used to show that they really went their separate ways, and the wide expanse that would lie between them.

          What was great was that Lan Zhan must have regularly visited that desolate ridge in all the time they were apart, to have caught the sound of the flute at the right time when Wei Ying really returned. I imagine how he waited, frequenting that place (when he was supposed to be cultivation master) with WY’s last words that they would meet again, and this was his reward.

          We don’t know how long they were apart, but probably from at least one summer to another.

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            No, I can’t stand the thought they were apart that long! But I do like your comment about his frequenting the place they would meet again.
            In my own mind and for my personal satisfaction, I still want to imagine it was WY calling to LZ with their song and LZ heard him calling to him.

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            @linda-palapala what’s nice about the ending is it was pretty straight-forward (they separated but in the end they are still together) but also vague enough that you can imagine your own things for it.

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    I can relate to the sunscreen obsession but this sun screen sprays scenes make me laugh every time, how did they survive this amount of aerosol???

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      Heh! I was wondering what they were spraying at each other. That was too much. I hope while they were being sprayed, they didn’t breathe in!

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    https://youtu.be/kjKHqg7qA24
    Is this what you’re trying to find?

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    The BTS scenes give me life 😆

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    The thumbnail alone cracks me up. 😂

    Drama’s bts are so fun to watch.

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Hotel DL Episodes 1-4: Beautiful in black, murderous in blue.

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Hotel DL Episode 3: Waiting through the millennium, by a light and by the light of the moon.

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Hotel DL Episode 3: Never thought we’d see Man Wol looking like the cat that got the cream, and in what she thinks are tiger colours, but the tights just have to go!

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    Clearly a missed ppl opportunity. Tiger striped tights…with modern materials you could even make the stripes look as if they were rippling in motion as view angle changed… oh, never mind.

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Hotel DL Episode 3: Shocking red tempered with black ‘trimmings’. The bag is the only article with colours other than red, and stands out beautifully.

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Hotel Del Luna Episode 3: More of the sad backstory of Jang Man Wol.

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    Near the beginning of episode 1, when she is looking up at the moon and says to her self she is sick and tired of the moon, the look on her face is not one of longing nor sadness; it is one of at least anger. What is she angry about? Her unending life? I don’t buy it. Since there’s not been any mention of reincarnation nor repeat visitors, I haven’t bought into the she’s waiting for her lover to be reincarnated thread…

    MW’s character is at least intelligent and clever (wisdom tbd); stubbornness is utterly obvious. If she’s been around for a thousand years and wants to continue to do so, there is a reason we don’t know, yet. I hope the sisters (too bad they aren’t three – could justly call them the Fates) have a more complex character for us.

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    It really does look like a ghost!

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Hotel Del Luna logo: A moon and branch? As symbols do, could it have evolved from a sign of lifelessness to one of hope? The tree might grow leaves with a new ingredient added to it’s roots.

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    The branch through the circle also reminded me of the little 3 pronged branch of flowers that Chan Sung’s father plucked. They were magic flowers on an otherwise lifeless tree. Signs of hope that things can change.

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    The center pair of pictures are lovely!

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      The aerial view of the skylight over the tree is somewhat like the logo too. IE oriented where the tree’s branches are angled across like the slash. The actual hotel logo I lifted from Packmule3’s page… it was so nice and sharp!

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Wonderful old world charm that totally suits this character who is centuries old.

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    We need to get our male lead into a period appropriate matching coat with tails for a nice ballroom scene!

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    I’m not sold on the drama at this point, but like many of you here, I love IU’s wardrob and accessories. Not to mention, she has at least three different hair lengths as well.

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This outfit was fabulous. I loved the embroidery on the sleeves and the way the skirt flared at the base. Pity I could not get a clear shot of the whole outfit.

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Hotel Del Luna: I’m now the fan of Man Wol’s stylist in a very big way. Never did drama fashion grab me hook, line and sinker, the way Man Wol’s style did. Here are screenshots of just a few.

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    There were definitely interesting fashion pieces in this show.

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      I loved that every piece had elegance and that they made a statement about what Man Wol was going to do, like the purple outfit with hat for her shooting the mayor, or the black button down dress for destroying the Roman soldier ghost. That was killing with style!

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    IU is so beautiful.

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      Yes, isn’t she. She’s got the voice and such sweet looks. She rocked all the clothes but I think she probably starves herself to keep that slim figure!

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        I’m not sure. I mean, there are people who are naturally thin, but I do wonder how often that’s the case for people in the entertainment industry. There definitely is the pressure to fit a certain look.

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SLOMS: Just looking at you.

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    You’ve fallen hard, haven’t you?

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      Yup, and it’s not abating anytime yet!!! 🤩 Fortunately I’m crazy about DMI 🤩 rather than mainly KYK, because then I’d be watching every show he’s in and throwing RL out the window. 🤪

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SLOMS: Sharing the Coat of Confidence

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    Aww I liked that metaphor.

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      Hi @wishfultoki I really enjoyed the coat metaphor in all it’s forms. There were so many instances of offering warmth, cover, protection … of coats real or invisible, of taking and giving and even of throwing it off. What we know is offered, of course, is consideration and affection, so it just warms the heart.

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SLOMS: Interpreting DMI-speak is no easy feat, especially when being fired means being loved!!

Not going to believe my boss if he fires me LOL! 😅

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    I had a hard time understanding this firing = loving from DMI’s perspective. Luckily 1 comment from fellow youtuber enlightened me on DMI’s language :D.

    From what I gathered, he is giving JGH what she wanted since she has been reluctant to sign off the permanent employment and after all, DMI also got the impression that JGH ‘hated’ him hence the continuous deception and lies.

    Am I getting it right? No?

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      Interesting take on firing = loving. It was the context of it though that puzzles… it was because he had lost trust in her as secretary, that she was fired. So it’s hard to see it as a means of doing her a favour. However, it’s true that he could have interpreted her behaviour as not liking him as much as he liked her, or worse, hating him … so firing her at last after she refused to renew the contract, might have seemed to him to be a good thing that he was doing for her.

      I was thinking that over the days after he fired her, as his hurt wore away, he may have considered that it allowed for a fresh start, as well, after he forgave her. But since that is never shown to us, it’s just me making up my own fiction.

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SLOMS: This show really knows how to pile on the hugs. My faves . . .

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Getting all handsy!!

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SLOMS: The charm of being so innocent, not just him but both of them. Awkward awareness with ‘blue films’ playing in their heads LOL. Er…mmm, nice abs by the way.

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SLOMS: The date that made beginnings. As different as night from day, even in the lighting and how the scenes were shot.

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    Among the cardigan metaphors, I liked how when she apologised for deceiving MI, GH said that if MI would let her work that 1 day, she would not wear the cardigan so that he would not see her face and could pretend she was some other secretary.

    However when he looked for her with cardigan in hand, he placed it over her shoulders, indicating that he wanted to see her, the person and not just the secretary.

    It reminded me of the Bible story of the Prodigal Son (or prodigal father, rather) who welcomed home his delinquent boy, not as a slave, but as a son, by giving him a robe, ring and sandals.

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    👋 GB!

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      Hello dear @giegie! *Hugs* What have you been up to? 😘

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        *Hugs back* 😘
        Other than watching dramas (both Kdrama & Cdrama) I’m currently addicted to an online game, which is why I barely have time to hang out here 😄

        What about you? Other than watching dramas, that is… 😉

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          I get more busy with RL at odd times. June was busy with my volunteer work and now it’s going to be my normal work-work. Dramas and fan-working (analysing or commenting) about them certainly take a lot of time, therefore I keep to just a few. I don’t dare to have a list of what I’d like to watch and catch up on… it would depress me!!

          Do keep in touch. It’s always great to see you. 😍

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    i loved this metaphor from the start till the end…
    at first he makes her wear an invisible robe, which she returned to him before his meeting.
    later he placed her red cardigan as you mentioned in above reply… and later he removes his own coat and placed over her shoulders… which was like he is handling her the power the confidence this time a real one .

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      Lovely! Thanks @kdramaswimmer

      And at the start … Ep 3 I think, he once threw his jacket at her to hang up for him. She gave him a sharp ‘look’ but hung it up anyway. By the end, he is draping her carefully with his jacket to keep her warm, and offers to be her coat of confidence. Such a BIG difference in the attitudes!

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