Beanie level: Loan shark with a heart of gold

I’m liking Netflix more and more these days. Their Asian drama library is getting bigger by the week. Coming next week…The Untamed and…Put Your Head On My Shoulder!!!

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TTMIK launched a new channel that teaches Korean in Danish. In addition, they have more IYAGI content coming soon.

Good morning @raonah! It’s been a while since last I tagged you like this, but this song was too good for me not to. I loved it–with the exception of that really corny part Mark did at the end there.

I’m in like all over again!

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Sometimes it’s hard to be a K-Pop fan. I feel like there is so much instability with my groups these days. A budding icon went bye. 9 or none became 8 is just as fun. I started liking a Monsta who just got X’ed. (That last one, I don’t think Wonho is a Monster. I meant it in context of the group name).

That’s not even mentioning Pentagon and Infinite. I don’t invest as heavily emotionally as many other fans, but I’m continuously saddened and affected by these departures and breakups. Maybe I should just fan solo artists. Oh, wait…

[1] LABELS SUCK!!! They take such knee jerk reactions sometimes and many suck at supporting and caring for their artists.
[2] These instances continuously highlight the disconnect I experience when Korean and Western cultures clash.
[3] Idols are humans too. HUMANS!!! I can only imagine how difficult it is to live such a “perfect” life. And it’s not just the idol either. It’s like everyone who is associated with the idol has to be a saint too. Grated, I have my limits/“no, no”es as well.
[4] Personas can really mess with you. Seriously.
[5] Will we/they ever get the change we/they need?

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    Monbebes are fighting hard and I don’t think they’ll give up until they get Wonho back.

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      Would it be worth it though? Would Wonho want to come back? Would they be able to bounce back? What about Shownu’s scandals?

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        I would think he would. He trained for years(?) to become an idol. What is he going to do now if he doesn’t do that? I think he only quit to protect the team or because he was forced out.
        Seeing the amount of support they have, I definitely think they will be able to get through this together. I’m more worried about them if he doesn’t come back. Some people might drop Monsta X just because they don’t want to support Starship anymore.
        Shownu only has one scandal right? The ‘dating a married woman’ scandal? Which really isn’t his fault since she got married and didn’t tell him. How was he supposed to know?

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          I dont really follow MonstaX but if what came out about him is all there is I wish he could go back. I think the true fans would stay with them.

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          I don’t know. I thought the DKDKTV vid made it seem like there was something else with Shownu, but I could be wrong.

          Is that what she did!? Oh dear. People.

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    Being a K-Pop fan is really hard, hades. I feel you. It’s not only an expensive hobby, but you go through so many emotions with and for them. As a hardcore fan of Super Junior for 13 years, I think it’s safe to say I have seen and experienced a lot. So many emotions and heartbreaks from the time my boys had a near-death accident, the supposed 14th and 15th member were going to be added in the group, to my favourite member being the first one to leave the group, to one member going MIA in all group activities, to another member caught in a crime scandal, SM was never fair to any of their artists, and the list goes on for 13 years.

    I am a proud ELF, but I am embarrassed of my fellow ELF for making a member quit the group just because he got married.

    I used to ask myself why do I stick with this group that gave me so much stress when real life is already hard it is? The answer remains the same, I cannot abandon the boys who gave me entertainment and escape when real life was hard. I’ll keep loving the ones who keep keep Super Junior going, and to the ones who have left, I can only wish them well. You are right, they are humans too and humans change. We don’t know who they truly are behind cameras. All we can do is keep supporting the remaining members for keeping their group alive; for keeping the momentum when things are shaken up. Being a fan is hard.

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      The podcast I listen to recently had a deep dive into Super Junior. They said that ELFs bought up to a 1% share or something of SM to protest something. That is intense.

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        K-ELF did, yes. That was around the time Henry was going to be added in the group and Only13 was the biggest protest. (I grew up. Though it took years, I realized 13 was just a number).

        One of the ways to get SM to listen to ELF was buy to buy their shares.

        How ironic that the same fanclub who fought for only13 was the same fanclub who protested and kicked a member out of the group because he got married. But hey, this is my proud fanclub. We have our ups and downs.

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          And Henry seems so cute and talented. I think I saw a clip of Life Bar with him and Taemin where Taemin was very complementary to him and saying something along the lines of Henry not recieving the accolades he deserves or something.

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            He is talented. I was sorry that this had to happen to him when he was just trying to make a living out of his talent. This was bad tactics and marketing on SM to try and put him in SJ.

            Adding/removing members was unheard of at that time. But this was SJ’s concept at first; labelled as SM’s rotational group at the time they debuted. This adding/removing was a sore topic to ELF who feared for news of which of the 12 would be staying or leaving the group. Kyu’s addition made all members official in the group, but Henry’s potential addition brought that fear back again because you never knew what SM had planned out for the group. It’s like SJ remained their experiment group, which did not sit well with us.

            Anyways, this Only13 protest sounds really immature and silly now, in this day and age, with all these news about members leaving their own groups here and there, but the emotions at the time, 2007ish, were raw and painful because only Super Junior had this issue of “unstable number of group members” in their generation. Times have changed.

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      Sometimes I wish the standard that idols are judged was more like the West–with the exception of people like Chris Brown etc.–but they are from a culture that is different in many ways from our own. That makes it super frustrating and hard to understand.

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    I don’t even know he is before but the whole Wonho situation is sad tbh. He does his best to move past his troubled past and seems like he really started anew but the way he got dragged for his past is unfortunate. It feels like it has nothing to do about the debt but just a vindictive act towards him. I don’t understand starshit reaction to it tbh. We have seen a bigger uglier scandal before with fewer repercussions, so why they are too quick to drop him? I just hope he has people around him to hold him close during this time~

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      It seems like celebrities have to be saints all their lives which is stupid.

      I too hope he has a good support system.

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    It appears to be a very cruel industry.

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    I haven’t been in to the kpop scene as of late and only looking out for my faves’ comebacks but boy was I upset with all these departures. Especially with Wonho’s departure. I am not a very big fan of Starships’ management since the beginning and couldn’t pinpoint why but this whole situation with MonstaX’s scandals and the way they handled it just proves how crappy they are.

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You know on Viki when a show’s ep 2 etc. is subbed at more than 90% and ep 1 or the previous ep is subbed at less than 70%?! How does that make any sense Viki!? HOW!?!?!

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    Because there’s more people volunteers subbing the second episode?? Possibly because there’s more from the language that the sinners understand from the 2nd episode so it’s getting subbed faster and needing less work from the moderators and segmentors to do

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    I read once on a recap that many teams don’t sub an ost until it’s released so maybe that’s the unsubbed portion?

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When did Chanon get so handsome cute?

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I’m getting better at discerning the difference between the sounds. I still suck at anything “ㅅ” and “ㅈ” related though.

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So, it’s been almost a year since I started learning Korean. I’ve had a lot of “had I known this when I first started” moments to be honest. But, that’s what life and learning is about, right?

My answer would be, focus more an listening and speaking Korean than writing Korean at first. Writing hangul is easy. Listening to and speaking Korean is where much of the difficulty lies—at least for me. Sound change rules can throw you for a loop if you’re not careful. Also, try to get comfortable with sentence structure, formulating sentences in your head, and saying them out aloud.

That’s my 2 cents.

I want to come back to this after I’ve reached a year of study and see if my answer has changed at all.

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    @raonah @delsatu What about you guys?

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      I think learning Hangul is important so you can understand what the different sounds are and try to distinguish them but listening and speaking are also really important. I’ve focused mostly on reading and writing and got ok at those but I can hardly understand anything by listening and I really can’t speak at all 😭😭

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        Try watching dramas without subs, write down what you understand from the dialogues and then watch them again with subs and compare, this helped me a lot!

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        I agree that you should understand hangul but that could come much easier than listening and speaking. But I think at the beginning more focus should be put on listening and speaking because people might end up like us as we are now–although I’m pretty sure you’re no where near that bad at listening atm. 🤣🤣🤣

        Actually, one of the reasons why I’m more convinced that listening and speaking should come first is because of how some words are pronounced. Like English, not all words are pronounced as they are spelled or follow the rules that are given. Simple one would be 감사합니다. Granted, there aren’t many like that that I know of, but yeah.

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      Reading, speaking, listening and writing, I find that I need a bit of all of those to actually make any real progress in Korean… My advice to myself would be: do not underestimate practicing prononciation, since your face muscles must get used to these new sounds; keep your ears open for the grammar structures and vocabulary you have learned when watching dramas; don’t be afraid to make mistakes because it is how your brain works!

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    I learned the Hangul 1st because I liked writing the words I heard (songs, mostly), but honestly Korean sentence-structure is the exact same as my native language so it was easier for me to learn, also it helps that they’re both gender-less languages!

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Anime Corner. FALL 2019

What are you watching?

After Demon Slayer wrapped up it’s first season, I didn’t think I would be able find anything to fill the void. Thankfully, I was wrong. Welcome to Demon School is an unexpected delight and a welcome addition to my Saturday evenings. It’s really difficult for me to describe why this drama is so comforting to me. It silly, stupid, intelligent, fun, addictive, and it has heart. In short, I love it.

So what about you? What anime are you watching this season?

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    I still have to watch Demon Slayer! It’s on my list for when I have more time. Right now, in between applications and work and normal life, I keep up with a couple of dramas, write occasionally for SB and that’s it.

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      I don’t want to say I’ve given up on you with Demon Slayer, but I’ve given up on you with Demon Slayer. 🤣🤣🤣.

      You do have have a lot going on right now though, so I totally understand.

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        It’s fine. I shall win back your hopes with me & Demon Slayer when the time is right.

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          Ohhh. Now you brought back my hopes a bit. Don’t tease me G! Don’t tease me.

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    It’s so hilarious! It was a surprising delight!! I just want to watch him get away with so many things and end up being the demon king!
    While I really enjoyed Demon slayer, I wasn’t really as hyped like most people so I didn’t expect to feel a void after it ended. I guess I wasn’t aware of how much I actually liked it.
    I keep checking for when the movie comes out.

    Other than that, I’ve been rewatching Psych Pass. I never got to finish it and I can’t remember where I stopped.

    Watched Blood C – one of the best death scenes I’ve seen in Anime. It was too creative and awesome!!!

    My Hero Academia 4 –

    Seven Deadly Sins 3 – this is a fucking joke! Couldn’t get past the first episode because of all the censorship. Hopefully, the uncensored version will be out on Netflix.

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      Yay, I’m glad you liked Welcome to Demon School!

      I totally forgot that I need to catch up on Seven Deadly Sins. For as problematic as it can be, Seven Deadly Sins and censorship don’t go together. That’s quite silly indeed.

      I will check out Blood C.

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    Demon School looks fun! Daisuke Ono is even part of the cast 😍

    I still have to complete Given and Carole & Tuesday before jumping in BEASTARS (the manga is really good!), No Guns Life, Muugen no Juunin: Immortal and Africa no Salaryman.

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      Oh, I forgot to check out Beastars. There is so much hype around that.

      I adore Given. I hope you can check it out eventually.

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        I’ve been reading the chapters for a while so I hope the anime for BEASTARS will hold up to it.

        I’m halfway through Given and enjoy it so far 🙂

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언제 이 남자를 보는 거가 박새준을 생각해요. 가끔 빅뱅의 대성을 생각해요. 무엇을 생각해요?

Translation:
When I see this guy, I think of PSJ. Sometimes I think of BB’s Daesung. What do you think?

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@raonah, Just hopped on YouTube. Live class going on if you available. Looks interesting.

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It really is amazing how muscle memory works. I keep clicking on the dang video section header thingy. Is that even muscle memory? My brain is like, this is where \”Beanie\” should be.

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동성애자 드라마 시리즈 “히스터리3″의 새로운 장이 이 번주 시작해요. 기다릴 수 없어요. 마지막의 장은 몇 문제 있어도 아직이 가장 좋은 동성애자 드라마 중의 하나예요.

근데, 비키가 이 드라마가 있어요.

Translation:

The new chapter of the gay drama series “History 3″ begins this week. I can’t wait. Even though the last chapter has a few problems, it’s still one of the best gay dramas.

By the way, Viki has this drama!

https://www.viki.com/tv/36748c-history-3-make-our-days-count

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    Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!

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      Have you noticed that they’ve developed a pattern of having one of the male leads be the cute, adorkable, atypically good looking type? In this one it’s Yu Xi Gu. In “Boundary Crossing” it’s Hsia Yu Hao. In “Trapped” it’s Meng Shao Fei. In “Obsessed” it’s Feng He, etc.

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    기다릴 수 없어 is used when you literally can’t wait. For example, if there’s a long line at Starbucks and you have a meeting starting in two minutes, 기다릴 수 없어. In this case, when you say you can’t wait, you really mean you are looking forward to it which is 진짜 기대돼.

    I think it should just be 마지막 장.

    I think 있는데 would be more natural than 있어도 아직이.

    In the last sentence, it should be 비키는 or 비키에.

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      Thanks for the corrections!

      You told me about the difference between 기다릴 수 없어 and 진짜 기대돼 before. I forgot about that. I need to remember about this in the future.

      I didn’t know how to say even though, so I tried looking it up. Your option just might be more viable. Thx!

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    There is another one coming!? 😍

    If you haven’t seen it I highly suggest Sotus. That is my personal favorite gay drama.

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      Yup, tomorrow!

      I’ve been meaning to check SOTUS for the longest while. I hope to soon. Thx!

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요즘 이 큰 소리 유형은 유행한 것이에요. “Kill This Love,”하고 “Jopping”은 마땅한예 들어요.

에이티즈를 좋아해요.

Translation:
This type of big sound is in vogue these days. “Kill this Love” and “Jopping” are good examples.

I like ATEEZ.

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슈퍼엠 음악회 입장권 받을 수 없기 때문에 슬퍼요. 돈이 없어요. 하지만, @raonah와 몇 삔니스가 표를 받은 거 기뻐요. 재미있게 놀아!

Translation:
I’m sad because I can’t get tickets for the SuperM concert. I don’t have money. But, I’m happy Ra On-ah and a few Beanies got tickets. Have fun!

P.S. How the heck do you spell “Beanies” in Korean?

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여기 많은 사람은 지코를 좋아하기 때문이에요. 지코가 왜 마지막의 노래를 안 불렀어요? 그 노래가 지코의 다른 노래와 아주 달라요. Part 2 비디오일 거예요?

Translation:

[I posted this] because many people here like Zico. Why didn’t Zico sing the last song? That song is very different from his other songs. Will there be a Part 2?

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말장난을 좋아해요.

Translation: I like the wordplay

In Korean, 나이 means age and 키 means height. So phonetically, when you combine the two words, you get NIKE, which fits—all pun intended, if there even is one.

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What\’s good in C-Dramaland? I haven\’t seen anything in a while and I\’m getting the itch.
@kimbapnoona @bebeswtz @jenmole

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    I’m slooooooooooowly getting myself through “The Untamed” and keep going back and doing snippet re-watches of my all-time C-Drama love, “Ashes Of Love”, and then I’m watching “Chinese Restaurant” for C-variety

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      I should go back an try again with “The Untamed.” Maybe. We’ll see.

      “Ashes of Love” is now your all time favourite C-Drama?! I’m not say much, but, ummm, did I not have a hand in you watching that? I can’t remember. 🙃

      I (can) definitely rewatch some early parts of the drama.

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        Yea, everyone is raving about “The Untamed” here on Dramabeans, but it’s taking me, personally, some more time to get into it 😅

        DID YOU??? I can’t remember anymore 😅😅😅 OMG if you DID have a hand at building my love and obsession with “Ashes Of Love”— ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 Sending you ALL THE LOVE

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          Love received and accepted–even if I may or may not have been the one to get you started on it. 🤣🤣🤣😈😈😈

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    Before We get Married is good.

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      The Taiwanese drama? Did I do something to you? Do you not like me? 🙃

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        Does this mean you don’t like Taiwanese dramas – or just ex bf and gf that never let go? Granted they were annoying but the main couple were amazing.
        It helped that there were a few of us beanies who liked it and talked about it every week.

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          No, no. I like some Taiwanese dramas. It’s just that I didn’t like this one all that much. It really frustrated me for quite some time until I just dropped it. It wasn’t a satisfying frustration like “Moment of 18.” That’s just me though.

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            Well yes I agree that it was frustrating to watch, but I still enjoyed Jasper Lui and Puff and Puff’s best friend.
            Mostly though, I think what helped was being able to talk about it with other beanies on the wall here. Sometimes it is more fun then actually watching the show.
            Mostly though, I liked how it ended with her taking her own time to grow and then reach out to him when SHE was ready. personally I appreciated that part of the character development.

            Mostly though, Beanies are everything!

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    @hades dongsaeng!!! Nice to hear from you!

    I have been stuck in The Untamed rabbit hole for weeks now after finishing watching the drama. Reading the novel, listening to the audio drama, and watching the donghua, and all of the drama’s bts and actors’ interviews fuel my obsession to no end! I do recommend that you pick it up again. This is truly a great complex story that has so much satisfying emotional payoff.

    I have checked out the first couple episodes of The World Owes Me a First Love and it seems like a perfect fluffy drama to counteract all the feels I still have for such an epic story like The Untamed.

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      @kimbapnoona my noona, is that you(na)!? 🙃

      Argh. Everyone keeps saying how great “The Untamed” is. Argh. I tried it when it first came out, but then the CGI kinda annoyed me. More than that though, I really didn’t like the hinting–strongly or otherwise–that this was also a queer romance story. I know they’ve gotten away with a lot in this drama, but still. I’ve become really fed up with settling. Granted, there is much more to the story than queer love and that is the only reason why I’m thinking about getting back in.

      Ohhhh…fluff. That sounds like a much needed crutch right about now. Thx!

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        Really – give it a few episodes and it is marvelous. It isn’t so much the implied queer romance for me as it was the relationships between everyone and all the magic and spells and GORGEOUS costumes and sets.

        Well okay Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji that was fun – but it was that Ww teased LW so much…..
        yep -it might be my favorite drama for right now.

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    Hades! Where have you been?!

    What’s good? Of course The Untamed. 😂 Like @kimbapnoona, I’m still stuck in the land of The Untamed. I’m already doing a slow rewatch. Finished the novel about a month ago. Also moving slowly on the audio drama.

    The only C-drama I finished while waiting for new Untamed episodes was The King’s Avatar with Yang Yang. The first 13 episodes was wow. The gaming world is pretty awesome. And like most C-dramas, this does drag a bit but I always have my trusted FF button. Overall, it was good. There’s no romance but Yang Yang carried the show and super handsome while doing. 😍

    I am trying to watch The World Owes me a First Love. I’m on episode 8 and it’s been pretty fun so far. Every time I watch an episode, it’s always the male lead who makes me smile. @dramafan12 has watched the whole show. Her comments didn’t sound promising at times. But I do plan to continue and see how far I get.

    Oh, I did finish Before We Get Married. I don’t know why I didn’t drop it and continued to watch it real. I guess I was hoping something would happen. But it never did. 13 wasted Saturday evenings. 😂

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@greenfields, 너가 원위를 좋아하기 때문이에요.

Translation:
Greenfields, because you like ONEWE.

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    Oneus! The Onewe guys can’t dance lol. Seems awesome to be rookies not yet famous. They’re able to do stuff like this. Yay!
    Also I spotted Eddie! Remember the gay kid from Under19, the idol survival show? I must have mentioned him in conversation. Yay.

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