Beanie level: Errand boy

Ok. So the number of dramas being recapped has decreased significantly recently. Even if the majority of dramas are being recapped, there will be a few that will not be–given limited resources etc. Why don’t the beanie gods add a section to each drama main page titled episodes or something to that effect where they list all the episodes as they would for a recap and the beanies lead those as they have been for other dramas like Just Between Lovers. We don’t have to do own recaps or anything. We just discuss as we have, but by episode. That way things should be a bit more organized especially if someone wants to go back and discuss something after the drama has finished airing. It would also be helpful to have a master tab where recaps, new, extras etc. are entitled dramas which takes you to a master list of all dramas-even the ones that aren’t being recapped.

Another option I would love is for them to add non K-Drama related dramas. They don’t have to start recapping them, but have a place for beanies to discuss non K-Dramas by drama. That would be awesome. But then again, we have the Open Thread, Soompi etc. Anyways, just a thought given fellow beanie frustration/desires regarding these matters.

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    That sounds a great idea.
    I think it’ll be useful/helpful. 👍👍

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    That’s an excellent idea!

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    DB used to give us a discussion page for dramas that were not being recapped.
    If we ask I think JB or GF might do it again.

    I’d love a “Mother” thread. There is so much to talk about and questions to ask.

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      Aren’t they recapping Mother? I thought I saw a recap for it…

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    I noticed that they’ve been posting the videos of other dramas, including the weekend family dramas under the VIDEOS tab. I think that’s a good place to start a discussion beanie. I would see DB staff Mary giving a comment every now and then over there… However, as of now, they would post 2-3 videos only per series per week…

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      As far as I’m aware, the videos section mostly has dramas that are covered in some way on the site by the DB editors/crew. It’s also quite limited at the moment. It’s a good suggestion but it’s similar to beanies who post on the beanie wall, just fewer and less frequently.

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    Love this idea. It reminds me of the site PreviouslyTV. They basically do exactly what you said but with Western shows and mostly US shows. If the show is really popular, like Game of Thrones, then they break it up by seasons and by episode. Forums: http://forums.previously.tv/

    It would be really cool if Dramabeans could do something like that. But it would probably be so time consuming and costly to operate a forum that is so robust.

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      Here is their master list of shows: http://previously.tv/shows/ It is crazy how many shows are on tv.

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      But it would probably be so time consuming and costly to operate a forum that is so robust.

      I don’t run a website, but I doubt it would be that time consuming and costly. It’s pretty much setting up segmented episode threads when they create the individual drama home pages–kind of like an Open Thread per episode minus spoilers. The rest is done by beanies. A significant portion of this website is driven by beanie generated content–the responses/comments to recaps and main section posts, and the beanie wall which is pretty much all beanie generated. Granted, there is maintenance, moderation, etc that the DB crew have to keep on top of.

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    Noticed that very few recaps are going up too! I’d hoped some dramas would be recapped but it’s a great idea to have a place for us to discuss non-recapped dramas.

    Side note: how did you manage to type so much? I can’t get past the word count. ):

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Am I the only one who thought that this was a Coffee Prince reference. Maybe it was the drama Dong-gu was watching, or some other drama at the very least.

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People like this idiot are intolerable.

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People like this idiot are intolerable.

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Aweee…

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Burn…

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There are a couple million other crazy people like me watching this amazing drama called Negotiator

https://www.dramafever.com/news/the-negotiator-is-the-hottest-new-drama-in-china/

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    Because… Zi Tao XD And because a Yang Mi drama always does well

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Has there ever been a C/J/K Drama with a true power couple. I mean, two people who are professionals and help each other out in their jobs etc. minus the fantasy bits like MLFTS etc.?

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    Doesn’t that apply to BTLIOF?!

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      I could see it. I meant more like in the business sense for example. One person has a consultation firm and the other runs a fortune 500 or something and they each help the other take on the baddies and huge problems or make the other better in their jobs etc. Or something even more along the lines of a Western drama like House of Cards for example.

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    Healer – journalist and erm…a healer lol but once they learned who each other was they did help each other out
    I Remember You – police officer and profiler – not necessarily high-end jobs but mutually helpful to each other
    While You Were Sleeping – journalist and prosecutor

    None of the above are really powerhouse couples in the sense of what we usually picture, but they fit the basic definition that you gave of professionals helping each other out.

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      Oh! This might be helpful. I’ve been meaning to watch Healer for lord knows how long, so this might help me get into it. I might also check out I Remember You as well. Thanks!

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    Check this list, and I was struggling to remember *it’s okay that’s love* it’s on this list too.
    http://www.kdramafighting.com/2013/07/10-best-smart-strong-korean-drama.html?m=1

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    Good Doctor maaaaybe fits in this category? They work together to make each other better doctors?
    In Love Cheque Charge and Murphey’s Law of Love there are some storylines of the couple working together, but there were definitely entire episodes that seemed to forget they had jobs at all…
    I am currently watching My Mr. Mermaid (this needs to be a judgment-free zone, I like abs ok), where he is a swimmer and she is a sports reporter. They are helping each other, but so far both are early in their career…

    Best drama that I can think of where two people really work together and make each other stronger was Atlier. It is two women helping each other do their best. Like The Devil Wears Prada, but if the main characters were good people.

    I don’t know if any of this helped. I would have sworn I watched a c-drama in the past 4 months that fit these criteria (I can see their faces and offices in my mind), but I cannot remember the name. I tried to search my watch history, but that is just a disaster zone… If I remember it, I will let you know!

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      This was helpful. Just like Healer–although not nearly as much–I’ve been meaning to check out Good Doctor. That seems to fit the bill. I want to see a couple actually meaningfully help each other out in their careers. So it doesn’t matter if they are just starting out or not like My Mr. Mermaid. Absolutely no judgments there btw. I have done worse and I have quite a few guilty pleasures.

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    They aren’t a romantic couple as this is more as office drama but Ms Temper and Nam Jung-ki has a solid pairing – both are competent although their specialities are different. One has a strong leadership, the other one is like key player of the team.

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    Cdrama “Across The Ocean to See You” had the couple working together, but I think you’ve seen it already. If only the noble idiocy didn’t kick in, it would have been a great drama.

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      If only the messed up sister, sorry excuse of a best friend, and noble idiocy didn’t kick in. That drama really could have been good. The relationship was a bit too one sided in that drama though. Sigh.

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    I’d say Live Up to Your Name fits this bill, but there is the time travel. But I did like that both were really excellent doctors in their own right and that they worked together from the start. Pinocchio also comes to mind.

    King2Hearts has an awesome power couple after Lee Seung-gi’s character stops being an ass. Love and Marriage, though incredibly fluffy, has two professionals who work together wonderfully. (It’s similar to Murphy’s Law of Love but without the stupid angst towards the end. Though I do really like MLL.)

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      Live Up to Your Name is a good example of the way in which K-dramas dip their toes in the water instead of jumping straight in–Temperature of Love comes closest to this, but goes downhill pretty soon after. Whilst I appreciate the changes we saw in Yeon-kyung, I think she lost a bit too much of herself. Sure, we change given our relationship with other people, but the downfall with most K-dramas is that we only ever get 1 season and that season doesn’t get to show us the continuous changes over time of a character–one reason I love Chinese School to Adult dramas. I would love to see the payoff from the events of season 1 play out in season 2 or be given enough episodes and time skips in one season to get there. I think K-dramas aren’t the best place to look for what I’m looking for here.

      I’ve been meaning to check out Murphy’s Law of Love given the love it has on here. You have me super interested in Love and Marriage. I would watch anything Lee Seung-gi is in at this point.

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        I binged Love and Marriage ages ago and while I never revisited it, I always remember it as being really fun to watch. It was really fluffy, the leads are excellent, and the problems always felt really properly adult, and not childish. I also remember it was really low on the angst factor — like once the leads were together, there was no noble idiocy or anything.

        I have to admit, I can’t seem to get into C-dramas no matter how hard I try. The only one that I’ve ever liked is Love O2O. I would gladly take recommendations though. I’ve seen a handful, and have yet to be blown away. I still rage when I think about Les Interprètes. I don’t even know why I watched the entire thing.

        I do really enjoy some of the more mellow, slice-of-life J-doramas, like A Girl and Three Sweethearts and Boku, Unmei no Hito desu. I see Nodame Cantabile was mentioned below, and while I don’t think that is a show of equals as you were looking for, it’s probably one of my favorite shows period. I rewatch once a year or so. It does have the over-the-top humor, but it’s also just a wonderful story overall.

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          Properly adult, and not childish

          You’re nudging Love and Marriage further up on my list.

          I’ve only watched a handful of C-dramas, most of which are bad. Many start off great, and then the go to shit somewhere at or after the middle. The absolute worst offender in this regard has to be Rush to the Dead Summer sooo many things went wrong. Accross the Ocean to See You had a pretty awesome premise but that also went to shit. The only one I might recommend aside from Love O2O is A Love So Beautiful. That drama had issues to be sure–the female lead chief among them–but there was a lot more to like. Funny enough, I’m watching the female lead of Les Interpretes‘ new drama. It’s one of those dramas that’s so bad it’s good. I’m a sad case at the moment. I can’t wait for Monday to come for new episodes.

          I liked A Girl and Three Sweethearts. I think I liked Kento Yamazaki and his character more than anything else. He’s a really good actor I think. I’m generally not a fan of the younger actors, but Kento played that role quite naturally and believably.

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            I like Kento Yamazaki too — I’m waiting (im)patiently for his new drama, Todome no Kiss to finish airing so I can binge it. He seems really versatile, though I haven’t seen him in much, I was looking at his filmography and he really has tried everything.

            I was going to try Across the Ocean but the reviews put me off. I have been thinking of trying Ode to Joy since that seems really female-centric but I just keep getting scarred by C-dramas so they’re low priority.

            I do have a list of J-Doramas a mile long that I want to check out though. I like how they tend to have a very low-key vibe and really simple stories without over-the-top characterizations. Maybe I can fit something in over this weekend…I do have Monday off. Granted I’m also super behind on Hwayugi, so maybe I should catch up on that…

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            @snarkyjellyfish I’m also curious about his new drama. It also features Shison Jun whom I loved in Kimi Wa Petto. I need to check out his other drama Joshi-teki Seikatsu. Subs are out now I think.

            Across the Ocean to See You starts off well enough, then goes to shit, and then tries to catch itself at the end. I remember having to fast forward like crazy just to finish that drama. A pity though given how well it started, the subject matter, and how likeable the male lead was.

            The only other C-dramas I can recommend are Love O2O and A Love So Beautiful. I’m currently watching Negotiator which is purely a guilty pleasure. It’s really really really bad…but good.

            I’m of the opposite opinion when it comes to doramas. I like anime. I like my anime animated. I don’t want to see it in a live action format. 95% of the doramas I’ve seen have over-the-top characterizations in it. Earlier today I was trying to watch ep. 3 of Mischievous Kiss: Love in Tokyo and I just couldn’t take the acting and characters anymore. That and it really really really bugged me how messed up Kotoko’s “friends” are. I would have cut ties after they shared that pic around and came over to the Irie house.

            Hwayugi is my baby.

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            I’ve been so busy with work, and I have another busy week, so my drama watching is pretty bare minimum, but next week I may actually have time. Granted I’m spending today catching up on Crazy Ex-Girlfriend which is a total 180 (and, yet, somehow not…) from drama.

            I really am in the mood for something low-key right now, though. Maybe a sweet romance, or maybe s good office drama. Nothing on my list is jumping out at me though. I just finished Witch’s Romance which really lived up to the hype for me. After you mentioned it here, I looked up A Love So Beautiful and it maybe exactly the vibe I’m feeling right now. Depending on the kind of hot mess Negotiator turns into, I may check it out.

            Did you like Kimi Wa Petto? I’ve debated checking it out. I suspect it’s one of those things that only works if the actors are good. I’ve had both the Japanese and Korean movie versions on my watchlist since forever but I never actually watched them.

            I love Hwayugi but the episode lengths are killing me…hence the falling behind.

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            + Yeah, work can cut into drama viewing time.
            + I liked Witch’s Romance.
            + Hope you like A Love So Beautiful. It has its issues to be sure, but it was still good.
            + Almost if not everyone in Kimi Wa Petto did a bang up job. One of the rare times that I liked the female lead in a dorama.
            + It seems they’ve been reducing Hwayugi‘s eps. by about 10 mins or so. Funny enough, I remember when Goblin came out and I could not handle and complained constantly about the extra 10 mins (totalling an on average 70 mins runtime). I was ok with the ~80 min Hwayugi runtimes. I welcomed it. Reguardless, it doesn’t matter if time does not permit. Thankfully, I’m not too busy at work these days.

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    Nodame Cantabile! My very first drama, and still one of my all time favorites. In the beginning, they are music students. He is the star pupil, she is the goof-off. But they compliment each other so well! He inspires her to push for her full potential and she reignites his joy of music. They have long work sessions together and both come out of them better musicians. By the end, they are both acclaimed professionals, and they wouldn’t have been if they had never met each other.

    Fair warning, though: this is based on a manga, and the roots show. The humor is very is very over-the-top, cartoony, exaggerated, and slapstick. I loved it, but I know it’s not for everyone.

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      So you’re talking about the J-drama version right? I was recently talking with a fellow beanie about how much J-dramas tend to annoy me with the hyper exaggerated acting. Sometimes it works for me, oftentimes it doesn’t. I’ll check it out though. If anything, I might also check out the K-drama version.

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        Yup. I have watched and loved all 3 versions of this story (4 if you count the manga), but the jdorama is my favorite. The anime is my brother’s favorite as it is less cartoony than the dorama. Yes, I recognize the irony of that statement. So you might want to check that out as well.

        The kdrama started out trying to imitate the zany over-the-top vibe of the dorama. It didn’t work all that well. But once they pulled back and found their groove, it was really quite good. Be warned, though, that the final episode was filmed on location in Europe before anything else. So if you get to that episode and discover that everyone has regressed to their early series selves, that’s why.

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    Pinocchio?

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      I stopped about quarter way into Pinocchio quite some time ago. I need to get back into it and finish.

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Xiao Fei is American. I had hoped that he would bring a more progressive voice to this drama. Alas, that’s not the case at this point. The ‘joke’ could have worked w/o the disgust & defensive bits.

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One of the really cool things about C-Dramas is the large number of females in management and executive positions.

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    One of the few beneficial side effects of the one child policy!

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      How so? I thought that there are significantly more men than women population wise. I think the number of women in management/exec positions is also much less irl in China. Sigh. At least they showing a generally positive image in dramas which is very important contributor for change.

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    I have yet to finish a c-drama. No matter how much praise they get, I feel they are stiff and cheesy.

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      I haven’t seen that many. Of the ones I’ve seen, most aren’t very good. The good news is, I think they’re improving. They just need to move away from certain tropes and writing styles which are frustrating and formulaic.

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Negotiator (C-Drama) Ep. 1 Review. In one word, terribad–it\’s one of those it\’s so bad it could be watchable in a not taking it seriously kind of way.

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    Negatives
    – The first thing to jump out at you might be just how bad the English dub is. Sure, many C— – Dramas are dubbed back into Chinese/Mandarin. I get that. However, watching many of these characters speak English, the dub feels disjointed and cheesy.
    Using White actors in cliche roles.
    – I would commend them on trying to rep New York diversity with the inclusion of Black actors. Unfortunately, the positions they use these actors in does not illicit much commendation. They’re maids, security, and extras. It would have come off as less offensive/noticeable if they included them in the hospital staff—doctors and nurses. Heck, to be honest, NY is way more diverse than just Blacks and Whites.
    – Tong Wei–the female lead–ends up on what I assume to be the executive wing of the hospital which has a totally unmanned department desk/counter. The leads had to meet each other somehow, right?
    – The storyline thus far is really cliche.

    Positives
    + On the plus side, the fight scene was actually quite enjoyable.
    + Tao’s acting could be worse.
    + The cinematography is not bad.

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    I am looking for C dramas to watch, any recommendation?

    I’ve not been very successful with modern dramas as in I’ve tried a couple which were raved by most but somehow I can’t get into.

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      Love O2O and A Love So Beautiful are the only ones I can recommend with ease.

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        Thank you!

        Unfortunately…for me that is, I tried Love O20 and couldn’t get into it. I also watched ep 1 of A Love So Beautiful. I think I should give it another shot.

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          I think it’s a matter of preference. I find J-dramas the hardest to get into mainly because many of them are based off of mangas and many of the actors act in very unrealistic outlandish annoying ways. I’m getting a bit used to it though after trying over and over and over and over again. I don’t know if that’s a good thing though.

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            “I don’t know if that’s a good thing though.”

            Hahaha…I have a similar problem. There are some shows and actors who I am adamant to get into and I’d actually go to great lengths trying. I don’t know why I do it.

            I have the same problem with J-dramas as you. I enjoy J movies though, the few which I watched were so good.

            I don’t think my problem with C dramas is the same. It’s more of the story or maybe the pace. Although the episodes are shorter, the drama length is longer than say Kdramas. Funny thing is I didn’t feel it with Nirvana In Fire or Ten Miles Peach Blossom.

            Anyway, I’ll definitely try A Love So Beautiful again. It’s the Lunar New Year, time for bingeing on food and dramas!

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So, of course, Soo Ho doesn’t see the pic, but we were most definitely meant to see it.

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Radio Romance ep 5. It\’s been really bugging me. Why was it so difficult for Soo Ho to regain his composure & play off the mistake he made on air. There were so many things he could have done!

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    I mean, sure, it’s one of those things that you’ll only understand once you’re in the situation, but come on! He’s an experienced idol for Pete’s sake. And Geu Rim couldn’t have given better advice!? Argh!!! That scene was just too stupid.

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    he said he never loses so unless that was just bragging he probably never had to deal with failure in his life. also his mother is a control freak who literally said he can make no mistakes. ever. so that’s healthy. but yea I’m not blaming him, but I enjoyed his suffering thoroughly after what he did in e4. it was pretty in character.

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    But he never does anything off script, so ad libbing, and the surprise of being live on air was a bit more than he was prepared to deal with. I’m not saying the scene wasn’t overly contrived, because it was. But from the character’s standpoint, along with the lack of support from the others (you’re right Geu Rim’s advice was lame), it kind of made sense to me.

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      Makes sense. But such a stupidly contrived plot device.

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    I think this might have to do with the trauma he experienced when he was younger. For some reason I feel like it is tied to his friend dying and to why he doesn’t carry a phone around. It really looked like he might pass out from being caught off guard so that is why I think it is more tied to some traumatic event. But maybe the writer just wants it to be tied to the perfection aspect and I’m just reading too much into it.

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Fantasy, meet reality. 😂

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😂 So awkwardly and embarrassingly relatable. Although, I don’t think I was nearly as resilient and persistent and Xiao Xi.

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Poor Wu Songbo. 😂 Didn’t know what hit him.

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Bo Song one said that he was a drowning man grabbing a straw. Little did he know.

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Xiao Xi: “I went through failures for 16 years yet built my own confidence. Stubborn & touching.”
Bo Song: “Yes, I should learn from you.”

NO!!! NO YOU SHOULD NOT!!! This boy seriously wasted years.

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I love how crafty and witty Oh-gong is. I ❤️ this 🐒 .

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I would argue that the Geumganggo has totally brainwashed Oh-gong to the point that he no longer wants to take it off even if he wanted to before. Regardless, that wedding could be awesome!

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