Beanie level: Eunuch in drag

Now I think I get the idea what Squiddy means by “Everything will go wrong”.

The dividing line between the Stage and the Shadow have slowly become more and more unclear. Like, I swear I heard the BLIP sound when Do-Hwa and Ju-Da were running down those stairs but the signature color tone change wasn’t shown as usual. It’s getting harder and harder to distinguish when’s the Stage and when’s the Shadow in some scenes, I really have to pay attention. We’ve witnessed more scenes that transition from Shadow straight into Stage as if those Stages are the consequences of what happened in the Shadow.

Also, so far, I thought that Ha-Ru is being “used” in the Stage by the Writer but now I really doubt whether that was his own doing (interfering). Like the tennis match scene, it was intended to be someone else (a student wearing glasses) who is supposed to play with Kyung. But the manhwa changes that student into Ha-Ru before Mi-Chae’s eye. So, when characters start doing things on their own and the Writer loses control over the story then everything is mixed/messed up, is that “going wrong”? By the way, his conversation with Ha-Ru: “Stop Eun Dan-Oh, that’s the reason for your existence”, makes me shiver. What kind of role Ha-Ru is playing exactly? Or Mi-Chae is just trolling with him?

And I thought I already knew fellow Beanies are clever. In fact, you guys are GENIUS!!!!! I’ve been denying the idea of manhwa characters traveling through a sparkling blackhole from the beginning, I thought it was too fantasy. But Dried Squid reading that flower-covered sageuk-like manhwa is really leading into that direction, well if only that would not turn out to be red-herring.

Too many questions and theories but no answer yet. This show has transformed from lively-bubbly-hilarious to mysterious (and sometimes even dark) so seamlessly.

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    And Haru’s got a face in the manhwa now! Totally gasped at that

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    Self note:
    -The Writer who loses control trying to get back his power……?
    – LOVE it when Dan-Oh ditches Kyung and he gets so confused. Satisfied.
    – But then why did she become so proactive cutting tie with him? It’s clearly not her own doing… she’s surprised and have no control.
    – Do-Hwa’s puppy eyes when handing Dan-Oh strawberry milk is killing me (Dramalord did heard our prayer #JusticeforDanOhandherStrawberryMilk).
    – Do-Hwa touching Ha-Ru’s back is DaeBak!!!

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Tomorrow is Wednesday.
Tomorrow is Wednesday.
Tomorrow is Wednesday.

By the way, never knew Ha Seok-Jin is such a genius. Falling ❤.

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Out of habit, when watching mysterious show I like collecting evidence and set hypothesis just to see how many red-herring I fall into and how many theory I get it right.

#ExtraOrdinaryYou
Reasons why I think HaRu has been self-aware for quite some time and he recognizes Dan-Oh from the beginning. He knows more than he shows.
1. He intentionally bumped into Baek Kyung when the latter was mean to Dan-Oh.
2. He sat in the library watching Dan-Oh and even drew her portrait.
3. The staircase scene, he stopped right at the spot where Dan-Oh would fall. He slightly turned back as if he was waiting for the moment to save her.
4. While playing soccer, he took a glance at Dan-Oh who has also been looking at him. Their eyes met.

All of these events happened early in the story indicating that he exists from the beginning, not just waking up. But he gain more and more existence after interacting with her.

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    It’s interesting that while he always recognized her long before she even knew he existed, it’s only after Dan-oh’s persistence that he was able to speak.

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      I’m still not so sure wheter he wasn’t ‘able’ to speak or he ‘chose’ not to.

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    I had the impression that not only he recognized Dan-oh from the beginning, but the he had interacted with her before – in the shadow, I suppose- and that SHE didn’t remember it because it happened when she wasn’t “awake” yet.

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Just start When Camellia Blooms and Yong-Shik is such a unique male lead. Love his honesty and straightforwardness. Kang Ha-Neul is doing a really good job portraying this character. The town people also feel so real, though they are sometime spiteful. And Pil-Gu is such a cutie.

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While waiting impatiently for next week to come, I’m on a searching spree for bts of #ExtraOrdinaryYou looking for clues and found this…

Oh Nam-Joo: “Baek Kyung, you like Dan-Oh, right? Is it (that you like her) because of Ha-Ru or you, yourself, really like her?”

Baek Kyung: “I don’t really know for sure. But she’s originally mine. He can’t just take her away like that. (Of course) I’d be mad. No way! She’s mine.”

Then
Baek Kyung: Dan-Oh ya, tell me 5 reasons why you like me. I want to hear it. I need to know.”

Dan-Oh: “Well…. 5 reasons why I like Baek Kyung?
1. It’s predetermined (in the script ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ)
2. He’s probably the most good-looking among those kids I went to kindergarten with
3. (He’s one of the) A3
4. (Perhaps it’s the) badboy charm?
5. (Because he’s) tall”

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LOL. Kim Hye-Yoon as Eun Dan-Oh complaining about the 2 guys she involves with: “one doesn’t even say a word and another is always angry”

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    Haha, Lee Jae Wook is such a cutie in real life…love his fan shenanigans!

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Baek Kyung\’s dad is such a wacko! Feel bad for him but that doesn\’t justify his behavior. Start being a bit nicer, please. I hate seeing Dan-Oh get hurt by you already. #ExtraOrdinaryYou

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    Agree. Kyung is just a dick. It is amazing how the creator of this comic is writing these characters.

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    But can we really blame him for that?
    I mean I hate it when he’s being mean to Dan-oh but then I remember he’s written that way, it’s not something he has any control on, or say in, and because he isn’t self-aware yet, he acts the same in the shadows, that’s what his character is, he is accostumed to that. But I think he is changing, very slowly, but he is, he feels bad.. and asks about her, he’s worried and shows it! One of the reasons he’s so mean to her is because he is forced and feels stuck
    in the whole engagement situation, because of his dad, and he takes that dad-resentment out on Dan-oh!

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      I am dreading him becoming self-aware. What would it be to realise what a nasty character he is written as. Imagine spouting such dialogues if you are fully aware. My heart aches for him..
      Doesn’t help that Kyung has LJW’s face. Don’t hurt our puppy…

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        Yes, that is going to be too much to take! But at least then they will all know he doesn’t mean it and he is just as hopeless as they are!

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      Edit* too many typos in the original post for my ocd to tolerate*

      I found it intriguing that once we learned they are manhwa characters we start sympathizing on them as ‘being written’ like that and defending on their behalf.

      Isn’t all the character in any drama, manhwa written? Self-aware or not, they are still characters in the show be it the manhwa within a drama or the drama itself.

      Kyung’s behavior toward Dan-Oh is basically/constantly rude and aggressive. Sure there must be causes for that. But as far as I can see, these characters have been somewhat showing a degree of their self-made personality in the Shadows. Which I see no difference in Kyung’s though. He shows a glimpse that he cares for her but acts opposite. So, I took Dan-Oh’s side and kinda don’t really like him as of now. He’s a hotty, dreamy and everything but he’d better be waking up soon.

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        I have to disagree with you here, drama and manhwa are two different worlds! In the dramas the characters are supposed to be real, not written, we’re not supposed to see them like that, in fact we’re supposed to see them like us, a mirror of us, their actions and behaviors are of their own choice, they get to decide what to do and they are not controlled by anyone, they have a mind of their own and move the way they want so therefore we can hold them responsible for their actions.

        As for Extraordinary you, we are told from the beginning the characters have a set-up of their own, they can’t really control their actions or their words for that matter if they are not aware, they’re written and have to move in a certain manner, and even when they’re aware once they’re on stage they can’t do anything but move the way the writer want them to , they’re puppets basically when it comes to the stage!

        The thing is, the writer has written Baek Kyung as a jerk, he is, and I hate him for that and he acts the same in the shadows because he is not aware of the fact that he could have a mind of his own and break free from his on-stage persona, I can’t hold him accountable for what he does, yet, but once he does become aware it’s then we can really judge his character, whether he’s gonna feel any remorse and guilt for everything he’s done to Dan-oh or go on acting the same, then it’s going to be interesting!

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        And I’m so sorry for the long reply, it just turned out that way 😂

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          No worries, I love reading other people’s thoughts even if they are long or opposite with mine. That’s an eye opening.

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    Same. He’s the same off stage in shadows, so even with his typical setup I don’t like him. He’s nothing more than his setup, & half of it doesn’t even make sense.
    Why is he mean to the girl who can literally lead to events that make or break him?
    I understand he takes out his anger of being an unwilling & reluctant puppet of his dad’s schemes on her, but why be outright awful instead of coldly civil when he believes she has the power to mess up his life?

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      It’s almost like he is being cruel to her to lead to her dying of a broken heart.

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        Yeah as if ending her with torment would end his torment sooner.
        I can come up with all possible explanations that explain why he acts the way he does, but I still don’t like him. He’s the last person I’d want EDH to be with.

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        Then is this manhwa really a rom-com? LOL

        And its title ‘Secret’ is not so romantic or comedic either.

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          Coz each character has a “Secret”

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          The manhwa inside the manhwa suggests that all main characters have a secret… EDH doesn’t have one because she’s the least important supporting role, an extra in her words.

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As of ep3. #EunDanOhandallherShipsRanking
1. NO13 (Haru)
2. Lee Do-Hwa
3. Mr. Squiddy
4. Oh Nam-Joo
5. Any male students she interacts with
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100. Baek Kyung (you ding-dong!)

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    That’s the exact order I would out them all in. With a minor difference, since I don’t like the Oh Nam-joo male lead either:
    1. No. 13/ Haru
    2. Lee Do-hwa
    3. Mr Squid
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    4. Any male student she interacts with
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    99. Oh Nam-joo
    100. Baek Kyung.

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      We have to be careful of Squiddy , though. He’s super fishy! (I haven’t watch ep4 yet)

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    Update as of ep4
    #EunDanOhShippingRank
    0. Haru
    1. Haru
    2. Haru
    3. Haru
    4. Haru
    5. Haru
    6. Do-Hwa
    7. Squid fairy (though you are crossing to the villain side)
    8. Any male student she interacts with including Soo-Chul and the bullies
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    100. Oh Nam-Ju
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    100000001. Baek Kyung, you punk!

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    I AGREE. I AGREE.
    *shouting aggressively*

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#ExtraOrdinaryYou
Five minutes into ep3 and I can foresee myself shipping Dan-Oh with all the boys. And Do-Hwa is also waking up? Then my theory is disproved.

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    Yeeep that’s what I’ve been doing since last week, just ship Dan Oh to any male within proximity…..

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      Kim Hye-Yoon is showing amazing chemistry with every single boy around her. I’m impressed.

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#theTaleofNokDu ep4 (7-8)

I’m so loving the main couple. The bond they’re building is adorable. Starting from companionship and compassion, evolving into romance. They are hilariously taking turn misunderstanding each other with someone else and jealousy is flying all over the place. I’ve been having this feeling since ep1 that they are swapping their roles, he’s the girl and she’s the guy. And how on earth can Jang Dong-Yoon be feminine and musculine at the same time? I can’t choose which one prefer.

Call me nasty, dirty or whatever but I’m shipping Hwang-Tae and Aeng-Doo. I know she is too young as of now but she has the potential to grow up into a female lead of her own story (Extra-Ordinary You ref). She has all the quality. Her dad is a master swordsman so she must be a really good one herself. She’s sassy and quirky and I love her saturi. It would be awesome if sometime later she will change the affection she has for Nok-Du to his hyung instead, hehehehe.

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    I was thinking the same! I wouldn’t mind being behind the ship between nokdu’s hyung and Aeng-doo.

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So, is Candy basically Jane Eyre & Daddy-long-legs hybrid?

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#theTaleofNokDu ep3 (5-6)

When he has his clothes ripped I was like, OH NOOOOO! I like that clothes, I love its color (and also his lips).

Then he is in his cloak showing his choco abs and dancing. I went, OH NOOOOO! What if someone sees you? You can’t be caught just like that.

Judging from the prince and his mom reaction, the king must be super evil. And personally I think he’s a little loony.

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Oh my G.O.D.
Ho-Young oppa is so animated and such a great story teller. I crack up real hard. #KnowingBrotherEp199

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I’m obsessed. Watching the episode twice in just one day. This drama is so hilariously romantic. Can’t get it why the ratings were so shockingly low.

Baek Kyung is acting strange. I think he is starting to realize who he is and remember the ‘shadow’ too. Also in the shadow, he starts having some feelings toward Dan-Oh. But sorry boy, it’s too late. She’s already set her eyes and hopes on someone else. Serves you right. Should have been nicer to her.

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    I find it particularly interesting that Baek Kyung’s eyes were on her and her animated facial expressions during the staircase scene. He’s noticing her more often than before. Can’t wait to have the recap page for ep 2, so we can discuss this more!

    But yes he’s too late. Even she hates her stage self for liking him too much and believes he doesn’t deserve her.

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      IKR, he keeps checking her out while saying he couldn’t care less about her.

      See you on the ep 2 recap. ^_^

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      I hope to start this today, but worried. I usually love the jerk who falls hard, lol. Poem a Day was one of the times I shipped the other way.

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        Have fun watching Beverly! It will be fine; lots of boys to choose from! Or you’ll end up rooting for all of them. To give you a little bit of a push, we have two jerks here ;))

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        Be brave Beverly (what a rhyme). You’ll be rewarded with lots of flower boys and lots of jerks. eieiei. And all of them will be head-over-heels any time soon.

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    But him acting as a jerk might be out of his control, though…

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      Yes and it will be really interesting once he becomes self aware and questions everything that he is.

      I think Dan Oh’s character is created so that he gets a love line. He is after all a supporting character in Secret, therefore, has a bigger role than Dan Oh. Every scene they have together is for his benefit. He gets a character development and redeems himself in the end. I think his story is about a chaebol boy with a dysfunctional family who eventually falls for the girl he didn’t want to fall in love with because of his father. That dinner stage scene at the Eun’s is for his benefit too.

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        Poor Dan-oh. She is listed last even in the extra character category. Even Il-Jin, Yi-Jin, and Sam-Jin are all in the higher rank than her. Hahahahaha.

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          LOLOLOLOL. She’s the last named extra character with a terminal disease whose sole purpose is to pine for a boy who lashes out on her… Can she get any worse? Damn teen romance book!

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            Oh yeah, she sure can! Her white knight is not even listed in the character intro. An extra of the extras.

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            @joosushin Dan Oh’s situation is worse than candy female lead! Please give her a HEA! 😭😭😭

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      Do agree that part if it is due to how the write establishes his character in the manhwa. But I do believe that his own true self is not much different. Once a tsundere, always a tsundere. Let’s see how he will change when he realizes the whole thing including his feelings for Dan-Oh.

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        But they are not humans hence aren’t they what the writers have made them to be. Like i know dan oh is self aware and is in between the lines of reality and fiction but even she was what she was unless she had some awareness. Ugh, i can’t comprehend it and I guess I shouldn’t look for logic in a show about comic characters.

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          They have characters of their own. They just don’t remember the time when they are being themselves in the shadow. Just like all the bullies playing together happily like high school kids and not always be the bad guys (because they are only ‘bad’ in relative to the female lead perspective, hence when she’s not around they don’t have to be bad). They only play their roles on the stage, the time in between (when they have no appearance in the manhwa) are theirs.

          Fantasy or not, a good story has to build rules for their world. There should be basic ground to explain what happens.

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    But him being a jerk to her is out of his control. Just like Dan oh being all submissive to him and liking him. That’s their concept, at least in the stage.

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      My interpretation: the scenes where Dan-Oh can take control of herself are all in the ‘shadow’ where characters can all be themselves but will not remember any of it. And I see no difference in his behavior toward Dan-Oh. If he is a jerk on and off stage, then he’s a jerk.

      But I do like him and can’t wait to see him goes head over heels for Dan-Oh and then we’ll get a steamy jealousy fiance-second lead.

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    Self-Theory: Extra characters spend more time in the shadow i.e. being themselves, less busy playing the role on stage, that’s why they likely gain consciousness. Mr.Squiddy and Dan-Oh are both extras. Haru should be more self-aware since he’s an unnamed extra, extra of extras.

    But, please show, please explain why these three are different from others. I’m curious. And, please, I don’t want Dan-Oh’s heart condition to become the obstacle of her getting her happiness at the end. I warn you, show.

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    Were the ratings low???? T_T

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Finally, my week is fully occupied. Tue-Wed with Nok-Du, Thu-Fri with extraordinary you. Both fun and refreshing. Thank you drama lord.

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    Same schedule but i feel a huge gap on the weekend lol need to fill that too.

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      I’m considering ‘Beautiful love, Wonderful life’. But I have lots of variety programs to catch up anyway.

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        I saw its trailer and it seemed quite different. Piqued my interest. But a weekend drama is a long commitment.

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Can’t believe back-scratching and laundrying could be this romantic.

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Still enjoying #theTaleofNokdu so far.

Ep2 (3-4) is quite exciting and hilarious. I love the color pallette they are using. It lights up the mood and tone of the entire of drama and fits well with the rom-com genre.

Love the bromance between Nokdu and his hyung too. But Nokdu, poor Nokdu, mom in her sick bed was a bit scary. At this point I’m still not sure how much he knows about his own back story. I expect the show will keep it light for another 3-4 episodes until all the angst kicks in. This show reminds me of #MoonLightDrawnbyClown a lot.

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    “Tale of Nokdu” is made by the same people who did “Moonlight.” It has the same style and appeal.

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      Ahh, that’s why they feel familiar. Thanks for the info.

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    I don’t think she is his real mum nor dad nor brother. maybe i’m wrong.

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      They are not. He is probably the next heir to the throne.

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      They are definitely not his parent. Dad supposed to kill him when he was just a baby per the king’s order but instead raised him as his own son.

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#theTaleofNokdu

Ep1. Very fun, mysterious storyline, interesting characters, colorful and fast pace.

I jumped in without any clue except that the male lead will be cross-dressing as woman. I don’t even know why. But man, I’m falling for Nokdu. He’s a fighter, he’s smart (almost a genius), yet he’s funny and super good-looking (in both man and woman form). Actor Jang Dong-Yoon is very charismatic on screen and his chemistry with Kim So-Hyun is very cute. Dong-Ju is also very interesting. She could be just another rebelious heroine without her opening scene. It adds a depth into her character. I wonder what she’s up to and where she really stands. Would she be a member of the assassin organization who try to hurt Nokdu’s family? And how do they all connect to the king?

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    It looks like the king assassinated all of her family and Nokdu will be a child with prophecy of a future great king maybe so the king wanted to kill him instead but didn’t succeed so he gave him to one of his right hand to have him killed but he saved him instead and he’s impatiently waiting for him to appear and because he’s not dead the honour of the family is on line so they need to have him dead if it makes sense… Oh, the scene with the baby was horrifying.

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    The spent their first night on the day they met, in a prison. What an interesting couple.

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#FlowerCrew Ep2

I give up. It\’s not a good sign when a drama makes me checking the clock half way through the episode and especially at only episode 2.

For me, it\’s a typical modern rom-com we watched a lot in the 2000s, well, if we can call that modern, in sageuk cos-play. I like the cast but their characters and stories couldn\’t hook me in. I might check back sometime later but now I will go back to k-variety universe until dramaland has anything else to offer.

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