Beanie level: Errand boy

Moment of Eighteen Finale:
You’re simply one of the very best.
On my “Forever To Be Rewatched” list.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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That’s it!
I want to be a Rooftop Room Dweller! 🙃
My fellow Beanies, short of spending every waking hour on DB and losing gainful employment in the process, what must be done to get this random lottery of desirable levels to work in my favour?
😁

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    Comment too many times (like I am now).

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    I think am going to be an Errand Boy for life!!

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      essentially. see Lord Cobol’s nifty calculation below.

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      Typical S Korea lack of social mobility 🙂
      Without good exam scores and a degree from a top university you are screwed.

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        In my case I think its the missing connections, because, I have excellent scores and a great college records with a Masters to boot.
        It must be my family background. The chaebol family will not let me level up.

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    I think there is something wrong with the formula starting at Errand Boy.
    I don’t have time to write up all my evidence (don’t even really have time to write this) but I have been keeping records and here’s that short version just mentioning upvotes….
    It took 32 for me to go from Candy to Jang Geu-rae.
    Then 74 more (106 total) for my next promotion.
    Skipping a few levels, it took 1310 new thumbs up (4,247 total) for my promotion to Errand Boy.
    Mostly, promotions took less than twice as many new upvotes as the level before. The number of new votes for each level was mostly lower than the total votes for the previous level.
    But, while running those bleeping Errands, my upvote count has gone from 4,247 to 14,148. More than tripled.
    Start graphing and plotting a curve and this stands out light a sore thumb.

    Looking at numbers for the lucky few who have gone higher, I see Rooftop Dwellers with 15,000-odd upvotes. Hmmm. Errand still stands out in the graph I haven’t plotted yet.

    Things look a little different when I count total posts & followers, but Errand stiff stands out.

    The full version of this (which I will probably never have time for) will include all 3 of those factors, with lots more data on me and other Beanies, with an attempt to calculate the relative importance of upvotes, total posts & followers, and finally some guesses on the relative importance of the mystery factor(s) that we don’t see in our stats. (There plainly must be some mystery factor or “DB Staff” couldn’t get so high — probably something about articles written and the number of people who reply to your posts, comments & articles.
    Time to go……

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      I had to chuckle at this detailed report riddle with frustrated sarcasm. ha ha ha. It is appreciated. Also, yeah, in light of this, I might as well just stay content in my Errand-running. Gainful employment is of much more value. Thanks, Lord Cobol.

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        I don’t think there is a simple math. I think they are calculated engagement for a consistent period of time or something more complex. Here are some errand boys & their stats
        comments||likes||You FOllow||Following you
        @anothernicole
        2,622||7,366||165||127
        @kethysk
        2,674||6,333||133||96
        @mayhemf
        3,193||9,556||65||74
        @yyishere
        4,243||7,928||69||97
        @lordcobol
        3,466||14,153||41||107
        @fay17
        2,592||4,485||59||49
        @gmelenco
        2,606||6,334||17||33

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          I agree that engagement is probably a factor. Every other time I’ve levelled up, it’s been after a period of time when I was making a concerted effort to post every day. I’d try and post at least one wall post every day (with a gif) and write some kind of comment on every article that DB posts. I suspect that commenting on the articles earns us more “points” than wall posts.

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            Yeah it’s not just numbers. I remembering having higher stats than other Errand Boys who got to a rooftop (like 15,000 upvotes and was still a freaking Errand Boy!). Currently I have higher stats than @outofthisworld, for example, but I am still stuck at the rooftop while she has moved on to loan shark. 🤷🏻‍♀️

            All I know is that it gets harder to get upgraded as we go higher up.

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            @wishfultoki

            DB probably thinks I’ll make a good loan shark by turning my debtors green in their face. Your toki is unlikely to have the same impact.

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            @outofthisworld you may have a point. I’m way too cute to be a loan shark. 🤣

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            @wishfultoki

            On the other hand, they might just willingly give you hearts.

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          Okay. I just laughed my head off seriously.

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          Thanks for posting this! Wow, I’ve also lost myself in the mystery of leveling up. Being a forever Errand Boy, I’ve just given up on trying but decided to let fate determine my next destination in life.

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          To get hired as errand boy: it took me approx. 1600 comments/6600 likes.
          It took me approx. 3900 posts/15200 likes to jump from errand boyhood to my cozy rooftop mansion.

          Looking at my stats…I think @lordcobol will be in a rooftop anytime now. Maybe DB is doing the final touches for the interior design and building a massive playhouse for the cat. 🐱

          As of writing this…I have 5297 posts and 19942 likes. Let’s see how long it will take to join the K-mafia and be a loan shark. 🦈

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          Okay, I’ve been on the rooftop (la dee dah) for a long time, at least 6 months and my stats are currently (in Lord COBOL format):
          4249 – 7525 – 16 – 56
          Which I point out not to say again that I think I got there by mistake as much as to say, I do think @yy might be getting screwed (as she has long suspected). Or there’s really something big hiding in the secret sauce 🤔

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          The stats are out!
          It’s reassuring to know that I’m not the only soul worrying about the Beanie status. Serious matters, here!

          🤣🤣

          (for real though, thank you so much for all the comments, people. It’s good to have online camaraderie over meaningless things. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)

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      Omg I am laughing so hard now. Seriously

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      Sigh. Lots of typos in my comment above. “light a sore thumb” -> “like”; “Errand stiff stands out” -> “still”. Was in too much of a hurry preparing to take my cat in for his annual check-up / torture-session. (He’s fine, and ageing better than me).

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      Upvotes is the cleanest statistic we see, although probably not the most important factor.
      Total comments/posts is tricky because our totals include comments on the old site but I’m not sure if they count towards promotions.
      Followers gives an ever-flattening curve once you get to the point where everyone who is likely to ever follow you has already done so. But feel free to follow me anyway 🙂
      The “X” factors are especially bad because we only know them by their shadows. Go look up the stats on “DB Staff” to see a total eclipse of everything.

      One thing that stands out in my notes is that total-comments counts for a lot. People who outrank me and have FAR more total comments include one Rooftopper with 11,957 (as of when I took that note) and even an Unemployed Slacker with only 16,792 – not much considering that’s 5 levels beyond Errand.

      Yes, each level is supposed to get harder. My question is how much harder per level.

      Separate from the difficulty of each level, I don’t much like the (apparent) heavy emphasis on total comments because it could seem to reward people who spam lots of low-quality posts. Upvotes seems like the best measure among those we see, because it reflects quality more than quantity.

      Full disclosure: I have about 4 times as many upvotes as total comments, so I might be biased but I try to make the kind of comments that people will appreciate.

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        i’ve also wondered if the weight of the comments is a factor. like do comments or posts that generate a lot of discussion (replies) earn more points? i feel like very early on (early on in the new site days) someone hinted at this. unfortunately i cant remember the context or who it was. but for some reason it stuck with me. if levels are meant to gauge contribution to the website then posting things that garner discussion seems like it might mean more?

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        It’s working (your comments, I mean).

        And I never thought about people padding their stats by, ummm, being overgenerous with themselves on the wall. Very interesting. 😉

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          Not to be snarky but I know of a few users who have gone as far as typing one sentence per post for 10+ posts (or filled the Beanie wall with a plethora of images), just to then post about their stats. 😕. I mean, to each their own but… 🤔

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        You high ratio/high quality post people all move to the same newly renovated expensive neighborhood don’t you? I think my low rent rooftop room used to belong to a poverty stricken orphaned high school student. No wonder @egads has a slew of errand boys running her errands all day while I’m having triangle kimbap and soju with a bunch of exhausted errand boys.

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    Well it’s been a year & half that i’ve been a Eunuch in drag and i’m still waiting for the darn prince to recognise me so i can then look for my chaebol doppelganger.

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    I have been an errand boy forever and ever. I have given up. Once in a while I cry and post snarky comments about my lot in life. That’s about it. Another day, another scooter ride. The lights just turned green. I must be on my way.

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One second, I was furiously screaming at my tv and the next, unexpectedly, I was moved to tears. Oh, Hwi Young… Joon Woo…
💔💔💔 So much hurt.

#momentAt18 ep15

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This is one of the sweetest, angst-riddled youth dramas I’ve ever watched. So cleverly and intentionally written and acted out. Dear Moment of 18, you have my 35-yr-old heart and soul, all the way! 💜

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Moment of 18, ep14
These kids are so much braver in their relationships than 90% of adult OTPs in KDramaland. I’m in tears. Oh Je, Da Heen, Joon Woo, Soo Bin… My heart-euh 😭♥️😭😭😭

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The Tea-Spilling chick in ep13 of Moment of 18 needs a beating. A serious beating. 😠😡😠Aaaargh! Poor Oh Je ! This was reaaaally not a good coming-out moment! 😥😢

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@ally-le
I made it to the Goblin door in Québec City! 😍🚪👺

#fangirlMoment #GoblinFan

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    You did! Oh, I miss that trip. I need to go back! #fangirlsunite!

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      Me, in about six weeks!

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        Yay have fun!!! Quebec is magnificent in the fall. And then there’s us, probably snowing hard around that time 😅 Oh I love the different seasons at the same time in my country.

        I went to Quebec City pre-Goblin era. I don’t even remember much of it. Hope I get to visit it again.

        +++++
        Hope you had a great time @kethysk!

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        I want to see pictures!!!

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          I took a pic of THE mailbox and was soooo excited! I walked to ask the front desk and they’re like, “yes, it is THE mailbox” and I was sooo over the moon!

          (my husband is a very unwilling participant to this Goblin tour. He truly doesn’t get it. *sigh*)

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            Exactly why I’m going alone. Well, that and Mr. Egads walks too slow, is too concerned about where the next meal is going to be, and doesn’t understand the fun in finding a good spot to just people watch. We travel best separately. Everyone is less stressed and happier.

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            My husband was more than willing, but we also had friends with us so he was on his best behavior, lol!

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            @egads, would your husbandbe interested in a foodie tour there? You can totally just go there only concerned with food and where your next meal will be!

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            @ally-le, he might be. I would probably send him and daughter #1 to do the food tour. I’ll just grab a snack and happily wander the streets.

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        Also, I hope you had fun. What have you liked the best?

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          I really enjoyed how easy it was to walk around Quebec City. it’s really beautiful and walk-friendly, with so many historic sites and French-looking narrow streets and soooo many food places. I liked it a lot!

          A coworker had recommended I visit “Le monastère des augustines” – they apparently have really quaint renovated monastery-type rooms, and their essential oils smell fabulous!

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            I actually considered staying at the Monastery, but they don’t have wifi (yikes) and I thought I would save that experience for when I come back with my sisters someday soon.

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        hello Mme @egads , here’s my advise, after doing my little Goblin Self-Tour: MAP IT OUT before you start walking! Most of the sites were literally within 10 – 15 mins walk from each other but I didn’t plan things well and some times had to backtrack to find one or the other.
        I found this website VERY useful too, because she has real addresses:
        http://www.flyhoneystars.com/2017/01/23/goblin-filming-location-in-quebec-the-ultimate-guide/

        Can’t wait to read all about your experience in 6 weeks !

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    Can you go in? Hehe

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    So cool! what fun to actually see the door!
    Hope you are having loads of fun!

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      2yrs after the Show and I’m still star struck and giddy. Oh, how I wish I had been around at the time of filming!

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        I still watch Goblin and my heart still skips beats; I’m still not over it.

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\”Oppaaaa! Oppa! Oppa ! Oppa! Oppa! Oppa!\”

Han Joo literally killed them with her aegyo. And they deserved it! Best scene ever! You go, girl !
#revengeisamealbestservedcold

(Be Melodramatic, ep6)

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Moment @ 18, ep11.

Soo Bin and Joon Woo must reeeeally be in love with each other, to be so cheerful, bright and AWAKE for a date at 6:50 in the MORNING!
😍😱😲😵🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞

Also, how early do movies open in South Korea? 🤔🤔🤔 Those two seemed to seriously consider going, so early!

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Moment at 18, ep.11 & 12:

I am genuinely over the moon, so happy for our brave little Romeo & Juliet couple (Soo Bin and Joon Woo)!!! Sooo many cute scenes together! Eloquent thoughtful dialogues with feelings clearly being communicated from both sides. Affirmations of feelings.
Sweet and slow skinship progression.
Mature at 18 indeed.
My heart is full.

*rewatching both episodes *

Will post screenshots of my favourite scenes soon!

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    Love how they’re very expressive of their feelings and they can read each other’s expressions too. No room for misunderstandings now, I hope.

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    I could watch those two all day ❤️

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Ep10:
imo, the Writers are doing a disservice to Soo Bin\’s growth by making her unable to verbally express what she thinks. It\’s a total cope out to have Joon Woo do all the work. Me no like.

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    Soo Bin voiced out her disapproval of her mother’s decisions in earlier episodes and I expected her to be as honest with Joon Woo. She can hesitate but not give all the work to JW. I wished they told out loud what they were thinking instead of the “telepathy” thing. Not everyone is a mind reader.

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      exactly! the telepathy thing didn’t impress me in the least, and while I know that personalities are different and no relationship is 50-50 in participation, Joon Woo is putting himself REALLY OUT THERE and I wish for him that she would have tried harder to meet him half-way in earnest.

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DS:60 ep16
The food poisoning & ambulance trick… Again?! Really?? Is the Secret Service that incompetent?

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    All the way to the end.😀

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      I begrudgingly watched the last ep. I was deeply dissatisfied with the awfully predictable turn of events. The only thing that made me happy is that my Secretary ship sailed (albeit, in the background). What a lazy ending though. 😑

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[email protected], ep9:
rewatching it and crying over Joon Woo\’s pure love and sincerity. My heart is in tatters! In pieces!
Ep10, I hope I will cry tears of joy, bcoz lawdahmussy, today\’s ep hurt so much.

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    *joins you in crying*

    i too really hope today’s episode repairs some of yesterday’s hurt

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      I am devastated. the preview for ep10 gave me some hope, but we still got until ep.16… I don’t know that my heart will make it out of this safe & sound. my inner youthful romantic is literally crying a river.

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    ‘k… I’m going to wait for episode 10 to finish before watching this week’s episodes. I’m not ready.

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Moment at 18, ep9:
I actually cried. Our poor Joon Woo. The hurt is real, guys. I\’m heartbroken.

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This scene from Ep.1 of Be Melodramatic KILLED ME!
H.I.L.A.R.I.O.U.S.!

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    She has the worst job and yet it would be so interesting and unpredictable.

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Be Melodramatic, ep1
I was laughing hysterically at the witty punny humour for most of the episode and bam! Minute 50 hit me and I teared up… What a wonderful premiere. More, more!

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    Yes, minute 50 completely shocked me, just like it must have shocked her friends and brother. The direction was perfection on point.

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      best of all when it carefully goes back to humour when she “confronts” her friends about their ulterior motives. lol. that was golden. Perfect direction, indeed!

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    And you know what got me about it. The lead up was there and I just ignored it. She was (and is still) not okay. At all. It was shocking, but it should not have shocked me, ya know.

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      riiiight!?! I mean, I don’t know why I was so shocked when there had been signs, yeah!
      Maybe because the well-directed exposé of her past distracted me?
      Well done, Show. Well done.

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        Yep I rewatched all of episode 1 and there were all those small hints in details… So well done.

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Be Melodramatic, ep1
YYEEEEESSSSSS! I LOVE it already!!

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[email protected]
Joon Woo was radiating with such handsome confidence throughout most of ep8. I loooooove it! He really is the embodiment of \”Still water runs deep\”. 🥰

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Moment at 18, ep 7 & 8:

Damn… I didn\’t think it was going to be possible but I\’m starting to feel some compassion for Hwi Young… He\’s a total spoiled rotten jerk but also clearly a frustrated bi-product of his parents\’ abusive authoritatian upbringing. He sees the wrong they do and seems so helpless, all while being complicit whenever it suits him.

Poor Sang Hoon…

Pil Sang, a 3rd generation chaebol 😂😂😂

About our fav puppy almost-couple, Joon Woo and Soo Bin… 😭😭😭. A whole episode (8) and it felt like the Writers cheated me. I mean, I got so hyped for their movie date, all for it to be the LAST scene?? And Ep 9 preview 😫😫😫😫😫!!
Whaaaaaaaat??
I feel cheated… I wasn\’t expecting smooth-sailing rise for them but… 😩😣

My Mon-Tues sunshine of a show just took a spin for the \”why?\” 😑😑

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    I still have no compassion. He feels terrible, so he makes others feel terrible even though he knows what it’s like to be the victim. In real life, I’d have some compassion for him, but as a tv character I despise him.

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    Agree it was really bummer last scene. But I think we are in for Soo bins growth, as she find her confidence and belive herself. I see her not really 100% belive he likes her. witch mirror her lack of self esteem. She need to find that in herself for her really belive in Joon woo. at least this is how I see it. We have seen Joon woo growth so far and how far he have come 😀 So feel last half of the drama gonna be soo bins arc. Beside I feel like we gonna go back into Joon woo and whi young conflict from the start of the drama, as Soo bin find out what really happened between them.

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      I agree with you in that it’s great to see Soo Bin’s growth as a young woman, but… The preview of ep9 made me soooo mad!! What’s worse is that, after getting “tricked” by the Writer’s editing (where they put the scene we were all looking forward to from the previews, at the veeeeery end!!), I am now very wary of how I set up my expectations. My eagerness has been slapped and me no happy. 🙁

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        this is why I do not like to watch preview as you get an expectation on how thing gonna go and like you say they can be misleading. I always take them with a grand of salt.

        Just hope they all gonna come out in a better place after all the growing pain 🙂

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    He is bothered by what his parents are doing but he uses it as he pleases.
    I so badly want his redemption arc to start.
    I saw that one moment when the home room teacher applied medicine and ask him if was ok. How much that affected him. No one ever asked him that. They all assumed he was great and doing well. Or did not care to ask him.

    My heart broke for Sang Hoon. All he wanted was to fight fair and square.
    I can’t believe We won’t see him again. Arghhh.

    SooBin and Woo: it’s not going very well is it. I understand it’s going to take time. Because he is new and she hasn’t liked anyone before. It’s awkward. She lacks confidence. But if Hwi Yoong is going to manipulate her I would be darn pissed

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      re: Hwi Young & Teacher applying medicine –> I saw that too! He really did seem very affected by that simple question. and it was also at that moment that I realized that Teacher is indeed a compassionate adult, not putting himself on the same fighting level as a spoiled rich kid. Teacher wants everyone to get along. (Contrary to me, who wants vengeance! lol)

      Soo Bin & Joon Woo: should I just wait until ep10, in the hopes that all unnecessary misunderstandings get resolved…? or is this wishful thinking…?

      Oh! did anyone feel some foreshadowing when Soo Bin’s friend was reading the tarot cards?!?

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        I really like the teacher. He is not perfect, but he constantly reminds himself that he is an adult and has to treat all students with the same kindness they deserve.
        He stands up to Hwi Young when he does wrong, but he also sees him as a struggling 18 year old.
        Same with Joon Woo- he sees him hide and wants to bring him to the world so he can shine.
        I want him to have some interactions with Pil Sang too. That kid deserves some attention too.

        SB and JW – I dont think anything will get resolved soon. There is a lot of growing up to do and am sure next 2/3 episodes will be a hard watch. I really want to see both of them understand their full potential and come out of this confidently.

        Ha ha yes. Those cards did seem to foreshadow something.

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      Re. Sang Hoon, I think part of the reason that he pesters and taunts Hwiyoung so much is because HY’s parents are doing the same to his dad. If I were HY’s parents, I’m not sure I’d like to see my child come in first while I remove his competition. Soobin’s mom looks normal next to HY’s.

      Re. SB and JW, ugh, first love. Sweet but littered with so much confusion. It’s a bummer that HY is about to play unfair.

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DS:60 ep13

Press Secretary Kim: \”Ya, Cha !\” 🤨
Secretary Cha: \”Ya, Cha ???\” 😧😡
*dun dun dun…*
Basketball time🏀!

Best scene ever! I love those two and their interactions 😂😂

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