Beanie level: Errand boy

Here’s a special farewell to 2018 episode: a Year-End Yak! We go over all the dramas we’ve loved and hated with a passion, as well as honorable mentions, non-2018 stuff we loved, what we wish we’d watched, and more.

Happy New Year, everyone! Thanks for spending 2018 with us! Whether it was an intermission or a crescendo, we hope it was exactly what you needed.

Tell us about your 2018 watchlist! Check out the #DecemberDramas reviews everyone has been writing on Twitter. And take a look at the free bonus episodes uploaded on Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

TIME STAMPS:
00:03:00 – 2018 retrospective
00:10:10 – Paroma’s Honorable Mentions
00:27:43 – Anisa’s Honorable Mentions
00:29:56 – Saya’s Honorable Mentions
00:38:49 – BEST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:25:33 – WORST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:41:59 – Great Dramas We Missed This Year
01:51:25 – Non 2018 Dramas We Watched This Year
01:54:34 – Best Non Korean Dramas of 2018

MEET OUR AWESOME PATRONS:

@egads
Steven B.
Lia W.
@kimbapnoona
@hades

Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – [email protected]
Patreon – http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

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    I’m enjoying this so much! @paroma and I should never be permitted to watch a drama in the same room. We agree on sticky points of many dramas and yet her loves are often my hate watches. I’m afraid we’d ruin the dramas for each other.

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      Thanks! Haha but half the fun is in arguing about things we don’t agree on, right? 😉

      Happy New Year!

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      Oh nooo! What did I love that you hated? I have to know now!

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        Your favorite was one of my hate watches. Sorry. I wanted to like it but I felt like the main theme was lost (and killed with PPL that often supported an opposite message).

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          Oh I’ll totally give you that. The PPL were peddling a very different message from the drama. But as @saya said (when defending INAR) I loved the story so much that that just didn’t matter to me. I could overlook it.
          But this is why I wish one of them had watched MIGB – they could have brought this very glaring problem up during the episode and we could have discussed it.

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        I loved Dance Sports Girls to pieces and it’s eclipsed other youth dramas for me. The bonus is that it healed my APAD heart (not a Ye-liner, one of my other disagreements).

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It’s time for the final Long Yak of the year! I can’t believe it. Don’t forget to come hang out with us on Twitter, where we’re doing one-tweet reviews of everything we watched in 2018 with the hashtag #DecemberDramas! (Also gifs. SO MANY gifs.)

Happy year-end, and happy holidays. Thank for all the love you gave us this year, for listening and supporting us, and especially to our Patreon patrons – you’ve completely blown us away with your generosity. ❤️

00:02:09 – Email: How to get involved in the Kdrama Fandom?
00:11:26 – Patreon shoutouts!

CURRENTLY AIRING –
00:15:27 – THE LAST EMPRESS
00:27:27 – TOP STAR YOO BAEK
00:45:13 – CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW
00:56:37 – RED MOON BLUE SUN
01:01:55 – MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA

COMPLETED DRAMAS –
01:13:14 – WHERE STARS LAND/FOX BRIDE STAR
01:30:25 – TERIUS BEHIND ME
01:34:46 – FAMILIAR WIFE
01:36:02 – BEAUTY INSIDE
01:46:15 – THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES

UPCOMING DECEMBER DRAMAS –
01:52:29 – Fates and Furies
01:52:36 – Coffee Please
01:57:15 – Just Dance/ Dance Sports Girls
01:59:17 – The Return of Revenge

MEET OUR AWESOME PATRONS –

@egads
Steven B.
Lia W.
@kimbapnoona
@hades

Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – [email protected]
Patreon – http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

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    I listened to it already. I appreciated hearing the variety of opinions about the dramas plus it made me think a little more about why I disliked Fox Bride Star so much. Paroma and I have almost opposite taste sometimes, but we both disliked that one for the same reasons.

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      Thanks so much for listening! Yeah, we don’t always agree, but FBS was so egregious.

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Aaaah the November Long Yak, with @saya and @festerfaster, where we discuss the Dramafever shutdown, and then:

– FOX BRIDE STAR/WHERE STARS LAND
– BEAUTY INSIDE
– TERIUS BEHIND ME
– PLAYER
– GHOST DETECTIVE
– THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES/HUNDRED MILLION STARS FROM THE SKY
– KIM’S CONVENIENCE

– We finish off with a quick look at upcoming November dramas.

And finally: we launched a Patreon page. We love doing this podcast, but we need a bit of help! Here: https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – [email protected]

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Yes, I’m terrible, and once again posting a backlog of episodes of Dramas Over Flowers because I forgot/was too busy with school. I only love kdrama school anymore guys, honestly.

Episode 26: Kpop and its International Fans

@festerfaster and I get @greenfields (Rimi) and @sicarius to come tell us why Kpop is invading the world, and how things work behind the scenes in the Korean music industry. (Links under the timestamps)

TIME STAMPS:
00:02:43 – Woes of Being a Kpop fan outside US
00:04:13 – Is Kpop a genre?
00:07:01 – Are Drama OSTs Kpop?
00:11:17 – How did you two come to this fandom?
00:16:59 – What is a Bias?
00:18:21 – Why Seventeen has 13 members
00:21:46 – Are Band dynamics scripted?
00:25:04 – Korean language lends itself well to rapping
00:27:39 – why Kpop rap is different from american/indian rap
00:32:07 – Conflict between an idol and a rapper
00:37:50 – Why are boybands more popular than girl groups internationally
00:40:46 – why do rimi and sica like boy bands more
00:44:24 – bromancey gimmicks on stage
00:46:15 – girl groups subjected to the male gaze
00:48:36 – how fangirls are maligned
00:50:54 – Toxic fandom and sasaengs
00:51:57 – When fans dictate what artists do
00:54:18 – HyunA and E’Dawn leaving Cube
00:55:52 – why companies promote fan obsession?
00:57:52 – slave contracts and lawsuits
01:01:19 – The East Light controversy
01:04:37 – why speaking the truth is hard under Korean Law
01:07:39 – Self produced artists
01:13:53 – opportunities for marginalised artists like Holland
01:17:27 – Do Kdramas portray idols well?
01:19:14 – Drama: SHUT UP FLOWER BOY BAND
01:20:58 – Drama: BEST HIT
01:22:52 – Suga’s mixtapes about the idol trainee life
01:25:20 – Favourite Groups

LINKS:

Sicarius’ post – http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicariu…ctivity/634903/

Rimi’s Kpop covers – soundcloud.com/user-496240984/tracks
Realgreenfields – Tokyo

Dramas Over Flowers:
Twitter – @dramasoverflow
Email – [email protected]
Patreon – http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

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It’s Episode 25! In this Long Yak, @saya, @festerfaster and I pontificate about the following dramas:

We’ve started:
Familiar Wife
Terius Behind Me
Full House
Life
The Ghost Detective
Heart Surgeons

Plus final thoughts on:
30 but 17
My ID is Gangnam Beauty
Time

Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts

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Another anniversary goodie: We did a Full House audio commentary for ep. 1! Watch and giggle along at the cheesy meet-cute and bad fashion of baby-faced Rain & Song Hye-gyo. 🙂

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AN ANNOUNCEMENT

We’ve changed our name! Stars in My Pocket will henceforth be known as DRAMAS OVER FLOWERS, because no one could remember what we were called, lol. Otherwise, same three crazy noonas.

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I have no excuse for posting this over a month late, except that grad school is kicking my butt *sweatdrop*

Enjoy! And look for the next yak soon, I promise I will post it in a timely manner.

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I can’t believe it, but we’ve been podcasting for a whole year! To celebrate our anniversary, @saya, @festerfaster and I decided to do a special episode where we chill and yak about how fell in love with Korean dramas, why we stayed, and what our first dramas were.

Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts

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n episode 21 of our August Long Yak, @saya, @festerfaster and I pontificate about:

CURRENTLY AIRING CDRAMAS
– Legend Of Fuyao
– Meteor Garden 2018

COMPLETED KDRAMA
– The Undateables
– Lawless Lawyer
– Sketch
– Argon
– What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim

UPCOMING KDRAMA
– Familiar Wife
– Voice 2
– Lovely Horribly
– Ghost Detective

QUESTION OF THE YAK – Heroines who lost their backbone?

(obligatory penguin aje gag)

Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts

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This month’s Yak is so long we had to split into TWO parts!

In ep 20, @saya, @festerfaster and I discuss:

NEWS
– good oppas and problematics “oppa”s
– @netflix and their approach to #kdrama
– a non-korean kpop boy band?

CURRENTLY AIRING KDRAMA
– Mr Sunshine
– Your House Helper
– Thirty But Seventeen
– Time
– Life on Mars
– Your Honor

Places you can listen to us:
> Soundcloud
> YouTube
> RSS
> Apple Podcasts

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    Thank you!

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      I agree so much with the Netflix discussion. I don’t like that they aren’t airing new K-dramas as they air in Korea. I feel like Netflix is losing an important (to me) part of Korean dramas when the subtitles ignore the personal nouns (titles, relationships, kinships) used in the dramas and when they switch the order of the names. If I can watch a K-drama on another site in the US, I go there instead of Netflix.

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Back with our fifth (extreeemely) long yak, @saya, @festerfaster and me do our best to cover a large chunk of currently airing and upcoming dramas, as well as K-ent news and a list our favourite drama OSTs that rapidly got out of hand. (Link to the YouTube playlist below!)

Dramas we’re watching:
– WHAT’S WRONG WITH SECRETARY KIM
– GREASY MELO/WOK OF LOVE
– ARE YOU HUMAN TOO
– SKETCH
– SUITS
– BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST
– WE MARRIED AS A JOB (aka Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu, J-drama

(1:05:27)
News:
– Kim Hee-ae’s new film about comfort women
– Jo Jung-seok and Gummy getting married! Yay!
– Lee Je-hoon x Chae Soo-bin pairing for upcoming FOX BRIDE STAR
– New cross-dressing sageuk in the works, Mung Bean Chronicles
– 3 BBC shows getting Korean remakes

(1:28:38)
And then we take a look forward at the million dramas coming out in July:
– YOUR HOUSE-HELPER
– MR. SUNSHINE
– LET’S EAT 3
– LIFE
– ABOUT HER
– MY ID IS GANGNAM BEAUTY
– RISKY ROMANCE

(1:40:49)
Finally, the Question of the Yak: Which drama OSTs have found a permanent home on your playlists?

[you can find individual timestamps for each item on the SC page]

LINKS:
Sarah Rees Berman’s hilarious thread about I Am Human Too
Our Favorite Kdrama OSTs Playlist 

Stars in My Pocket: A K-Drama Podcast is also available at:
YouTube
RSS
Apple Podcasts

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Since I\’m a wrongly accused fugitive right now, I feel like I should change my avatar to a picture of Dramatic Lee Joon-ki

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In this episode, guests Odessa Jones and @pogo1 join me to discuss #MeToo and the Korean entertainment industry, toxic tropes in kdramas, and how things might be changing.

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    Also, @festerfaster pops in with some important insights, and @saya was more behind the scenes this time. (Darn this 200 character limit!)

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    YES!!
    I was just looking for something to listen to while I make lunch/eat.
    Thanks for sharing!

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    Already commented on Saya’s post, but I only listened to a little bit and just have to say: jerk male leads must go! Wrist-grabbing must go! And I’m so happy that it seems that these characterizations are changing!

    I didn’t hear them mentioned specifically in the bit I was able to listen to (I jumped right to when you were talking about SIG 💖) but we need more Dong-hoons, more Gang-doos, more Se-hees~ some of my favorite heroes.

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      Absolutely agree!

      Ooh yes, I don’t recall if we mentioned Gang-doo, but I loved him so much. (You’re referring to Just Between Lovers, I hope?)

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        Yes, Just Between Lovers!

        I didn’t catch any of my personal ultimate favorites in the bit I listened to, but there are several heroes/shows mentioned that I haven’t had the chance to watch or were not on my radar, but they’ve now been added to the list! Thanks so much!

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    I agreed with all that you gals mentioned about being happy for the change to much nicer male leads, and actually that’s why I’m so happy with Lawless Lawyer, Sang Pil has trauma in his past but he never takes it out on Jae Yi and it’s pretty clear early on that he really admires her and likes her and he doesn’t need to hide it behind aggression.

    On the other hand I heard someone mention a lot Pretty Noona and it’s take on sexual harassment in the workplace and I remember feeling the same way early on in my watching but I ended up exhausted, disappointed and pessimistic about how will we be able to make effective change when it can’t be done even in a fictional version of our world.

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      We ended up pretty exhausted and tired out by Pretty Noona too (this podcast ep was recorded almost a month ago). At this point, we’re debating whether to even bother recording a post-show deep dive for a drama that let us down so badly. =(

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        yeah I can understand that because it might just be an exercise in frustration to talk about everything that could of been, but it could also be sort of therapeutic to just lay those feelings of frustration out and just let them air out so that they’re not pent up inside.

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Stars in My Pocket’s First Impressions series is back! Check out our eps 1-4 discussion/squeeing/incoherent noona love. @saya @festerfaster

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Part 2 of our Looooong Yak! This time we talk about Cdramas, including the estimable Nirvana in Fire! And @saya asks me and @festerfaster: How do we choose what to watch?

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    I missed this because I was in the middle of a slump. @saya loves NIF! *blows kisses*
    Don’t let the 54 episodes deter you @laica and @festerfaster! I wasn’t as disciplined as Saya. *cough* It took me a few episodes to get used to the storytelling style and the bombardment of character introductions, so I took a break after episode 12. But after episode 18 I couldn’t stop and marathoned it over a weekend.
    By the way, I finished NIF2. It was entertaining but more of a straightforward story, not the mind-blowing experience that was NIF.

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      Thank you for listening! It was actually @festerfaster trying to get the two of us to watch. Maybe we’ll have a drama slump this summer and get to it then? I definitely want to watch, my list is just so looooong :'(

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Part 1 of this month’s extrasuperlong Yak is up! @saya, @festerfaster and I discuss Misty, Mother, Mystery Queen 2, Radio Romance, The Great Seducer, Shall We Kiss First, and some older stuff!

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    *Super* agree with @saya on Radio Romance. I wanted to say it but I felt so guilty criticizing Kim So Hyun Because she’s so young… I mean it wasn’t completely her fault. The writing was off as well. I just didn’t feel the chemistry.

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I just want to take a moment to reiterate how awesome Beanies are. You guys are truly a miracle: an internet community that\’s consistently kind, smart, and hilarious. Thanks for 2017, friends. ❤️❤️❤️

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Our last podcast of 2017 is a Throwback Edition. Join me, @saya and @festerfaster and our special guest Odessa Jones as we talk about Ji Sung and Hwang Jung-eum’s dark, twisted melodrama Secret.

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Join us as we go back to school, and experience once again the highs and lows of being eighteen.
Tae-swoon and Eun-ho 4EVA

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    You know, we sound way smarter here than we did when we were actually recording. XD

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