Beanie level: Loan shark with a heart of gold

JADE DYNASTY: the movie with Xiao Zhan. Just, no. Too silly, dumb, bad production. They tried to fit a 60 episode drama into a less than 2 hour movie. But that’s just my opinion.

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    My mom just texted me to say she liked it lol I’ll eventually watch it but I’ve not been anticipating it as it didn’t look very good to me.

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      I was just wondering whether or not it was too silly and bad in my opinion because I was comparing it to Untamed whether I meant to or not!

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    There’s a drama version?? I never knew that!

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JOY OF LIFE: So good! Whoever the production team is, well done! 9 MILLION DOLLAR: Shaky camera technique makes me nauseous.

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    yup. been hearing really good things since day 1
    and the actors are phenomenal too..

    XZ would appear in 20 ish sthg episode.. lol.. drama is going to get high TRPs then too

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The best part of 9.9 million dollar woman was the last few seconds of ep 1 when Kim Kang Woo finally appeared and promptly got kidnapped and beat up by the bad guys. KKW at his best.

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I’m so bored that even the good dramas I really want to watch seem boring. It’s all your fault, Untamed! And I blame you, Xiao Zhan! You were so vibrantly alive, nothing else compares.

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    😆 thankfully I’ve finally managed to move on. It’s my all time favorite drama but I’ve managed to finally claw my way out of the obsession lol

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      Haha… same. I finally managed to claw myself out of it (well, not completely given that I haven’t finished the audio drama yet) by watching a bunch of variety shows. I’m still waiting for Joy of Life to have at least 20 eps subbed before marathoning it.

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        Joy of Life is the one I want to watch but just can’t watch right now – not because it isn’t good, it looks great, but because everything looks dull right now. It’ll be okay in a few days! I love the modern musical score, the type of humor and Zhang Ruoyun, but it’s just gonna have to wait a bit. The mistake is going back to Untamed to watch a few favorite scenes and realizing how much Xiao Zhan brings it to life.

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          Oh isn’t Zhang Ruoyun your favourite?

          How’s Joy of Life, why isn’t anyone posting on it? Is XZ role very small?

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            I’m really liking Joy of LIfe – now if I could just muster up some “joy of life” myself, I’d enjoy it more. Looking forward to watching it with more enthusiasm one of these days.

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            I’m excited to watch JoL but I’ll wait until it’s finished airing and being subbed since I am a binge watcher. I’ve heard it’s good though.

            And I don’t think XZ has a very big role (read a comment that he wasn’t in the first 4 episodes at all), but I’m not wanting to watch it because of him. Even if he wasn’t in it I still would have wanted to watch it. Him being in it is just a bonus to me.

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      I am resigned to no dramas for now. Not because I’m on the road but I have no urge to watch anything. Oh I will finish Chang An when I’m back but Heaven’s Official Blessings looks to be addictive. Have you read that novel?

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        Exactly. But Chang An was too dark (literally, the scenes were all browns and dirty looking) esp after the lightness of Untamed.

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        HoB is absolutely amazing. Even better than The Untamed novel imo (and seems a lot of people who have read both also agree). I didn’t get out of bed for a 3 day weekend as I spent it reading HoB the whole time. And I was staying up many hours past when I should be going to sleep because I couldn’t stop reading (I was really tired for that week lol). And I would secretly read the novel at work because I wanted to know what happened next.

        I highly suggest it.

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    I’m on Ep 44. Just savoring it. Kind of don’t want it to endβ€”so going very slow.

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Xiao Zhan “Remaining Years” OST from Joy of life.

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    @trinpie forgot to tag you, thought you might not have seen this Joy of Life OST by Xiao Zhan.

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      I have seen it and it’s lovely ❤ I love his voice. So beautiful and powerful. I see the first few ep. are on Viki. I’ve heard it’s good so I’m excited to see it. But since I dont like live watching it’ll be a little while before I see it 😭

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        Even though it’s on Viki, it’s been up for several days and not one word has been translated into English yet. But I watched it raw and when I listened to the OST ending I went hey, wait a minute, that voice has to be Xiao Zhan! He has such a distinctive rich tone to his voice, one of the most beautiful voices I’ve ever heard.

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        @trinpie As it turns out, YouTube already has Eng subs for Joy of Life. The first episode was really good. As in really really good, well done.

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          Ya I’ve heard it’s good 😁 but I’ll wait until the series is done. I’m not interested in the drama because of XZ, it just looks good to me. He just happens to be an added bonus.

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            Me too, I’m a fan of Zhang Ruoyun so that’s why this drama drew my attention. Pleasantly surprised so far. I watched about 5 minutes of the new kdrama Chocolate on Netflix and then went back to episode 4 of Untamed…

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YouTube: \”Netizens call for \”THE WOLF\” to be aired as soon as possible\”. I\’m all for that!

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Li Qin and Xiao Zhan have been 4 of the same dramas: Wolf, Jade Emperor, Joy of Life and Fight Breaks Sphere. Wonder if they even had any scenes together though.

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    Pretty sure they did in most. I know they did in Fight Break Sphere. And considering both her and XZ were the main characters in Jade Dynasty they would have in that one. I’ve seen them in trailers together in The Wolf so know they do for that one (I believe XZ is the love rival in that). Not sure for JoL though as he has a much smaller role in that compared to all the others.

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      I posted this before, but in case you didn’t see it…I noticed Wolf is now starring XZ, not Wang Talu. Interesting. Haven’t checked lately so maybe it’s changed back. I remember first seeing the trailer a couple years ago (when I really liked Darren Wang) and thinking, well that other guy 2nd lead is certainly beautiful in a classic way but I like how Darren Wang has a different look. My how times have changed!

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        Well in The Wolf, they are both listed as the mains. But Darren Wang is the main character. The drama is centered around his character which is why I believe XZ is the secondary male lead.

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          Yeah, I know, that’s why I was so surprised (but not really) that suddenly XZ was listed as lead. But I don’t remember where I saw that…will try to find it.
          Looks to me as if Darren Wang is (or was) supposed to be a werewolf type. But who knows how much they’ve added, deleted, edited and probably ruined the drama. Last I heard they’d added several extra episodes. But now with XZ’s popularity who knows what they’ll do.

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            Ya I’d heard about him being a Werewolf also. I wonder if that’s why it’s not passing censors and getting an airdate 🙄 Hard to know with China’s ridiculous censor laws. Probably have to do some rewrites and heavy editing which will probably not make for a smooth plot 😕

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          So many fans have been looking forward to Wolf for so long it’s bound to be disappointing. Did you see the latest from Chinese Drama News about the author of Mo Dao Zu Shi being detained?

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            Oof. I hadn’t heard but it’s sad that I’m not surprised. Lots of BL writers have been detained over the years. It’s so sad and depressing. I’d heard rumors she had been detained earlier this year, but I don’t know how true those were. One of the bad things about becoming a popular BL author, is that the authorities then notice you 😑

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JOY OF LIFE: On Air now. Zhang Ruoyun. Xiao Zhan has a minor role. Watched the 1st episode raw and it looks like it\’s going to be really good.

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    How can XZ have a minor role in anything? kkkkkk

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      Definitely fans will be watching for XZ! I originally wanted to watch because I like Zhang Ruoyun, but XZ is an added bonus!

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      This was filmed before The Untamed and before his popularity soared. The Untamed was his first main role so anything before that he either played minor characters or side characters. His biggest role before TU was The Wolf which hasn’t even aired (and might never air 😭).

      But yes, he has a pretty minor role in this. I’ve heard the first 4 episodes are really good so far. I want to watch this just because it looks good. XZ is just a small bonus, and I mean small, from the reviews I read XZ isn’t in those first episodes and in the 2 minute trailer I watched he was only in it for about 5 seconds.

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TALE OF NOKDU: Excellent to the end and beyond…

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The TALE OF NOKDU. Or, NOKDU\’s FAIRY TALE.

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Is anyone watching Xu Kai\’s new drama: Once Upon a Time in Lingjian Mountain? Tried it, just awful imo, but I\’d like another opinion.

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    I’ve not but I saw very short clips and gifs. It didn’t look good. I wished he had taken a better project or is this one beyond redemption?

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      It’s way too silly for my taste. But dramas usually get more serious as time goes on so I might check back every once in awhile.
      Right now I see nothing. I watched/ff thru 4 episodes and it looked like they were heavy on the bromance with no females. Except for some lady who was supposed to be hundreds? thousands? of years old but still looked 30. Not done well at all. But I really would like another opinion too!

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    The gifs I’ve seen looks pretty funny but I’m pretty much guessing I won’t like the drama as it does seem quite silly and campy. I’ll probably still give it a try though just to see for myself.

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Finishing: Tale of Nokdu, Just Between Lovers. Next: should I watch Bride of the Water God for Nam Joo hyuk or Mama Fairy and the Woodcutter for Se Ji hoon? Pros&cons, pls.

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    Uh… neither.

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      I was just waiting for somebody to say “neither” because I know people hated these two shows. But I want to know the why.

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        Haven’t seen Bride of the Water God although i have never seen a good thing. Mama Fairy started off really weird and quirky and funny and then doubled down on the world’s worst romance and assassinated a bunch of its characters. I dropped it around episode 12 because I physically couldn’t watch it anymore.

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          “Haven’t seen Bride of the Water God although I have never seen a good thing WRITTEN ABOUT IT”

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            I did see one comment from one person who liked it and thought it was getting a bad rap.

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            But I want to see something with Seo Ji hoon. I’d never heard of him til Flower Marriage Agency where he was the king but he really got a bum rap on that deal. Couldn’t stand the OTP and SJH had barely any screen time. And he was good, too. He out acted everybody else. Besides which, he’s kinda cute.

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            I just looked up his filmography and apparently he was in Prison Playbook. Now that is one drama I haven’t seen that a lot of people loved. Not sure how big a role he had in it but it’s also on Netflix (at least in my region) so it’s quite easy to watch too.

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            @leetennant Ah, Prison Playbook – been meaning to try and watch that. Netflix it is.

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          I dont know why that first sentence made me laugh so much.

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    Or Yang Se jong in Saimdang, Light’s Dairy.
    I simply can’t watch the end of My Country: New Age because I know what happens to Yang Se jong’s character.

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      I’ll go for Saimdang, but he doesn’t have too much screen time in this one. I ff’d the rest.

      I’ll skip Bride and Woodcutter. Bad acting, bad stories, not worth your time.

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    Are you picking your next watch by your favorite actors?

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    I cant comment on fairy and woodcutter, but bride of the watergod was awful. Bad acting (ML was especially bad), plot was nonsensical boring and badly written, not interesting characters, clearly low budget and the romance felt fake and little chemistry between the leads.

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    I adore NJH, but I can’t defend him in Bride of the Water God. I have come to terms with the fact that he wasn’t a good fit for that role. In addition to that, the writing let down the show as a whole and the secondary leads didn’t help matters. Personally, I’ll take the mess that was Hwayugi over this drama any day.

    I wanted to like Mama Fairy and the Woodcutter, but it couldn’t keep my attention. I just leave it at that. Seo Ji-hoon needs a good drama.

    I know I didn’t help you with much in the pros and cons department, but yeah. Neither had many pros to begin with.

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    It’s “neither” for me. If you want to watch something with those actors I’d recommend…

    For Nam Joo Hyuk: The Light In Your Eyes (sad puppy), Weightlifting Fairy (one of the few rom-coms I’d recommend), School 2015 (not so great, but he attempts to portray a swimmer=abs?).

    For Seo Ji Hoon: Drama Special “The Legendary Lackey” (it’s hilarious please try it!), School 2017 (a minor but okay role), Solomon’s Perjury (going on beanie recommendations, I haven’t seen it).

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      Second Solomon’s Perjury.

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      Light in Your Eyes is the reason I wanted more NJH. I’ll probably end up watching that one. Weightlifting Fairy, no, tried it, just, no. I’d love to watch Legendary Lackey but I can’t find it anywhere just yet. Solomon’s Perjury, too high school for my taste.
      Thanks for your suggestions! I’m quite picky, if you haven’t noticed.

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@outofthisworld Ep 46 in ancestor hall: instead of \”your intimate (friendship/relationship)\” Netflix translates it \”great friendship\”. What is the Chinese character-intimate or great?

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    It’s both
    β€œδΌŸε€§ηš„ηŸ₯己之情”

    β€œδΌŸε€§β€ – great
    β€œηŸ₯己之情” – intimate friendship

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      Ah, thanks! I’m really annoyed they left out “intimate”…
      My daughter says “intimate” usually means “romantic”. But what is the Chinese meaning of the character for “intimate”, especially since the Chinese characters are “great intimate”. Romantic or otherwise?

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        ηŸ₯ -know
        ε·± – self
        ηŸ₯ε·± – literally means someone who knows you as well as you do yourself.
        It’s used to describe an intimate friend, on very close, intimate terms.
        This word does not necessarily mean romantic. There are other terms which are exclusively for romantic.
        If the sentence was undoubtedly one referring to romantic love, I would have rephrased it to β€œδΌŸε€§ηš„ηˆ±ζƒ…β€ – Great Romantic Love.

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        I think that’s why there are so many different ways it’s translated, because there isnt a true translation to English.

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          Maybe not a true translation to English, but surely the same feeling that’s the same human emotion, both in English and Chinese and any language that expresses emotion.

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            True. But what I mean is since it doesn’t have a hard translation, more of a general one, it gets interpreted in different ways. Which is why some translate it to things like soulmate, great friendship, lifetime friend or intimate friend. It seems it’s kinda up to the translators interpretation of the word.

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    I was surprised the censors let any of them pass, it really seemed like JC was suggesting something romantic didn’t it? What he actually said in the novel was very funny.

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Xu Kai\’s new drama, Once Upon a Time in Lingjian Mountain, is coming to Netflix this week.

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    Oh really? I’ll have to add it to my to-watch list! Netflix has really been busy with their Asian dramas!

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      First episode on Saturday. My only doubt is it’s supposed to be quirky funny. I prefer meaty.

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        Ya, it looks a bit silly and ridiculous, but the few gifs and bts I’ve seen it looks like it could be quite funny. We’ll see!

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          Yeah, we’ll see how well Xu Kai does with comedy. I’m not really that impressed with his acting so much.

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            He is pretty comedic in AMA and does a great job. It’s like the role was written for him.

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            @trinpie “It’s like the role was written for him.” It probably was! I tried to watch it but mostly ff thru everything. Found it boring, or maybe that’s because comedy usually bores me. Tale of Nokdu, for example, uses comedic writing here and there but not silly comedy (imo).

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            @linda-palapala AMA isn’t silly comedy. And AMA does have its slow moments but I love the characters and it’s them that kept me invested. I wasn’t as into the patriotic or war stuff.

            But the few scenes I’ve seen of Lingjian Mountain looks like it’s silly and a bit slap-stick. I’ll still probably give it a go though.

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            @trinpie Let me rephrase that: now that I think about it, it isn’t silly but more like an Indiana Jones type drama that I thought was supposed to take itself seriously and be more dramatic. (I never liked Indiana Jones).
            However, since you liked it, I’m going to try it again (since I missed so much by ff) with another mindset.
            Especially since I don’t think I’m going to be able to watch Untamed again for at least a year.

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            @linda-palapala I’m sure it’s not for everyone! If you don’t like it you don’t like it 😁

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            @trinpie Ha – yes, but sometimes it just depends on what mood I’m in!

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    “Watched” meaning ff thru most of it, on Netflix today. It’s awful.

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Even raw without subs I can tell AWAKENING OF INSECTS is a good production. Pacing, camera work and Zhang Ruoyun – outstanding. Hopefully Eng subs might happen soon.

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The Cliff of Non-Doom strikes again…

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    I think the King qualifies as the worst dad of 2019 dramas, at the very least.

    Who would be on the list for worst kdrama fathers ever?

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      I can only think of current airing dramas:
      1. Lord Nam in My Country
      2. Baek Kyung’s dad in Extraordinary You
      3. King Taejo in My Country
      4. King Yeongjo who killed his own son, Prince Sado (don’t remember drama name)

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      Nam Joo Hyuk’s father in The Light In Your Eyes.

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Between UNTAMED, TALE OF NOKDU and JUST BETWEEN LOVERS (re-watch), I\’m a happy camper.

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TALE OF NOKDU: The disclaimer stating these aren\’t real historical people, I\’d say we\’re in an alternate universe, one in which tropes can be turned cleverly. Love it.

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Anyone know: what\’s the Netflix deal with My Country and Lies Within? It seems they\’re not showing any more episodes. Is there a Season 2? Later? Very annoying.

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    They stopped showing upcoming episodes for Lies a while ago but they still upload every new episode, so I’m not worried. Episode 12 is up.

    No idea what’s up with My Country, though.

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      I’ve watched Ep 12. We’ll see what happens. But now it doesn’t even show up on my “continue watching” list.

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        They stopped showing ‘upcoming’ for Camellia as well but the episodes still dropped. No clue what’s happening with My Country since the most recent episodes aren’t there. I’m not even watching the show but still checked out of curiosity. It’s really weird.

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          Ha – I really shouldn’t complain about My Country since I ff thru everything but the Yang Se Jong scenes. Yes, I’m shallow like that.

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          @leetennant Mon a.m. MY COUNTRY: Netflix says “new episodes coming on Tues.”
          TALE OF NOKDU: I’m not reading the recaps because I don’t want anyone else’s opinion (that happens when I love a drama), but just watched the next two episodes raw. It seems to be extremely loosely related to Prince Neungyang (Yool-moo later King Injo) with Nokdu loosely based on King Gwanghaegun, who reigned briefly after his father’s death, then was overthrown in the coup and exiled to Jeju (which would fit their wanting to go to the ocean). Probably this is being talked about on the recaps and everyone’s aware of it – I’m assuming.

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    A cynic might think they are re-purposing the final episodes as season 2 πŸ™‚ So Netfix didn’t license the extra episodes… just saying that they were too incompetent to notice that there are more episodes is too easy. And saying that they couldn’t afford to license them would not be very credible.

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      You didn’t really answer my question…or did you?
      I loathe when they divide up the seasons.

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Looks like VIKI has picked up Jade Dynasty (Xiao Zhan)
https://www.viki.com/movies/36837c-jade-dynasty

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