Beanie level: Loan shark with a heart of gold

“If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you…..”
I had forgotten about this quote.

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My favorite Gu Cheng this week – I like this translation better.

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I\’ve been wondering if kdramas would ever let 2 guys kiss – question answered. And I think I know where this is going. I laughed-out-loud.

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    It kind of sucks that it was for over the top comic relief though.

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      I didn’t think it sucked at all, I thought it was great and done really well. I was so shocked! But in a good way. If I want to see serious BL I’ll watch Taiwan HISstory. Just started 3 today.

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    Kdramas handle their homophobia in a different way than cdramas. While cdramas just outright ban it, kdramas tend to pretend different sexual orientations don’t exist or make it into a joke. There are plenty of kdramas out there where 2 guys might kiss or ‘act’ gay but it’s almost always queerbaiting or done for comedic relief. I’m not sure which is worse tbh ☹️

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      Ordinarily I’d agree with you and this is the first time I really thought it was done in a way I liked. I don’t remember any other kdramas where 2 guys kissed – what are they?
      I wouldn’t put this in the same category as what you’re talking about, but maybe that’s because I wanted to like it. I don’t want that feeling to be ruined.

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        I think Hyun Bin and Oska kissed in Secret Garden.

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        I’ve not seen the scene as I’m not watching the drama. Only seen it in gif format. It’s definitely fun and cute in the gifs but I can’t comment outside of that. And you can enjoy it, nothing wrong with that! Even though I hate queerbaiting and making it into a joke, some can still be funny and enjoyable to watch.

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          I hate queerbaiting too. For some reason I didn’t think this fit that category.
          I didn’t even like Coffee Prince.
          GIFs are nice but take things out of context.

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          The other thing is this drama is turning tropes on their head, so I’m thinking this might go in a different direction (or not). I wouldn’t be surprised if the receiver of the kiss (2nd lead male) gets a crush on 1st male lead (geez I’m bad with actors and characters names).
          I also thought maybe kdramas are loosening up on their conservative ways, but I’d forgotten about other dramas and queerbaiting. I’ve only seen it the opposite, where the female dresses up as a male.

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            Well cross-dressing isn’t queerbaiting.

            For example, Strong Woman Do Bong-Soon had both queerbaiting (the ML and second ML were shown in a kinda compromising situation in trailers) and having an over-the-top-gay character there just as a joke. Queerbaiting is when the media uses the possibility of a same-sex romance to try and get viewers but then doesn’t actually have one.

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          Thanks – I misunderstood the definition. I know cross dressing is just cross-dressing, but what came to mind immediately (whether it had anything to do with anything or not!) was what I hated about Coffee Prince, where he thinks he must be gay but (whew) turns out he was okay because it was really a girl. I found that type of thing really annoying.

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            I was personally ok with Coffee Prince and actually enjoyed that drama (it’s been awhile since I’ve seen it though so I’m not sure how much I would like it now). He did struggle with the fact that he may be gay, but he did come to terms with the possibility that he was gay (iirc). But of course he was definitely happy to learn he WASN’T gay.

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Can\’t read GDC anymore. They changed to a white background w/ faint black type and my eyes can\’t read it w/o getting headache.

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    I can’t read white type on a black background and my drama watching platforms have both gone to that combination. It causes optical migraines.

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“Yet only you I do not forget. You are right next to me.”

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    Are you listening to this again?

    Every time I look at this picture of LWJ holding up the whips, I get so agitated.
    LQR made him kneel in the snow for goodness how long, holding the very instrument which will inflict great pain and render him immobile. Yet, what’s that expression on his face?

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      I watch and listen every day. And Every Day Means Every Day.

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      Goodness, I didn’t know those were the whips he was holding – I was wondering but just didn’t think. Wow, thanks for mentioning that. The layers get more and more deep.
      @outofthisworld

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Novel: \”Grasses\” chapters 33-42. Drama: Yi City arc. Poem \”Grasses\” by Bai Juyi (772-846). See reply for poem.

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    Tall and hanging down, the grasses on the wide plain flourish and wither once a year.
    Wild fire could not burn them up.
    Spring winds blow and they come to life again.
    Distant green growing vegetation overcomes ancient highways; spring emerald green stretches away to waste cities, bidding farewell to wanderers going elsewhere.
    Lush growing grasses sway in the wind full of parting cares.

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If you suddenly don\’t hear from me it probably means PGE cut power to our city for who-knows-how-long.

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    Does a thumb-up mean we wish you the best or we like the idea of PGE cutting power? 🙂

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      Hard one to answer. We got a phone call from the city – it read “unknown number” and I usually just cut those off, but luckily I listened to the message. Guess the Santa Ana’s are stirring up at a really bad time.
      And I’m out of cat food, so must rush to the store to buy supplies.

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    May your wit shine brightly casting light into PGE’s darkness!

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    I’m debating about having ice cream (in our freezer) for dinner. I’m joking, but… yeah…

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      Are you in so. Ca? I just filled the freezer today too!

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        I’m in the bay area/peninsula (Northern CA). I’m just at the limit of the affected areas, but with the unpredictable wind, weather and PGE, who knows…

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          Me too, east of sacto. Glad to have beanies in this “neck of the woods” (a southern expression).

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            Just read our city is definitely in the blackout area…at least I’ve watched all of Nokdu!

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    I’m praying the winds don’t reach my part of Socal, but they do every time anyway.

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    If the power is cut, I hope it’s not for a very long time! Take care!

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Okay, that\’s it. Apparently Wang Yibo adopts \”many stray cats\”… In my heart forever.

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    That is so precious 💕 (and as opposed to XZ who dropped his own cat 🤪 – still luv him so much tho).

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YONG-JIU Grocery Store: There\’s an adorable scene at her place during a hurricane. Shy lovers, sitting on the couch listening to John Denver\’s \”Sunshine on My Shoulders\”.

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    How do you get around posting over 200 characters? Anyway, I suppose it would be violating copyright to post the clip and music??

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      Type and edit your comment somewhere else, copy it and paste it to the comment box by right clicking on your mouse and choose paste.

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TALE OF NOKDU: How can this drama be so hilarious without being silly? How can they do tropes with a fresh take?

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Someone didn’t know how I could read the novel by skipping around. So I started at chap.1. Now on 33 (grasses) so to prepare I had to first watch Song Ji Yang’s dance.

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I have no idea what he’s singing but the music sounds like it might be something patriotic:

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Today\’s loop inside my head has changed to Gu Cheng.

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2nd day of Bu Wang playing on a loop inside my head.

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Flower Crew, ep 5 (1st 5 minutes): Well this is an interesting turn of events. Who\’s the lead? Who\’s the bad guy and the good guy, the matchmaker or the king?

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    Some of us are confused as to who the lead male is. At first it looked like it was the blacksmith turned king. Then it threw the lead female with the matchmaker together in almost every scene. But now the beginning of ep 5 we finally get to see Seo Ji hoon again (king) who wants to find his only love but the matchmaker (lead male??) discourages him and then doesn’t tell the girl where the king is. Will he keep it hidden from her (usually a bad guy thing in a kdrama) or will he tell her in the next few minutes? He’s already fallen for her but to keep her unaware of where her fiance is? I’m firmly in the king’s camp. This might (or might not) be more interesting than at first glance.

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    This could have been a good drama if the lead female wasn’t in it. Untamed has spoiled me.

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I\’m afraid to watch Untamed too many more times. I\’m afraid I\’ll get burned out on it and then not want to watch again next week/month/year.

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    You can try other C dramas since you can’t binge on Nokdu. Let me know if you find the next cracktastic one!

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      I’ve taken to only watching the last episode of any c-drama before I decide whether or not to watch all of it. Untamed was the only one I live watched because I was so sure of it.

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        That’s a very unorthodox method!

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          I don’t have a linear mind. In fact, it’s so bad I can never do anything in a linear fashion. And I don’t understand anyone who can go from A-Z or 1-10 (or the equivalent in another language) w/o skipping around.

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          The last episode of “The Moon Doesn’t Understand My Heart” was good.

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          That’s one reason I love flashbacks and Asian dramas – they’re usually not very linear. The more confusing a flashback is, the better.

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    I love that the biggest reason that you don’t want to watch now is that so you would watch in the future!

    Speaking like a true fan @linda-palapala!! 😂😂😂

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I don\’t need to play background music while doing housework. Bu Wang is on a loop in my head, even as I type.

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Weirdly, the more I watch Untamed the more special it gets, unlike most dramas where you start seeing flaws when re-watching. On to 20-24 arc. I love watching the arcs in random order.

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    I actually noticed a lot more issues on my 2nd rewatch but it didn’t bother me, I still love the drama too much that those things just adds to the quirks of the drama rather then detracts.

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      You’re noticing technical issues maybe? I’m not paying attention to that but see even more subtle romantic undertones, heh heh.

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        More like some plot issues or inconsistencies. And I did also pickup on more of the subtler parts of the drama that I missed the first time which made the 2nd watch just as good as the 1st, just in different ways.

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          I remember someone saying something about the first episode when he snapped his fingers which he never used again. But this last re-watch he did use that snapping in one of the later episodes (in the Yi City arc) it just didn’t work.
          Curious as to what plot holes you’re referring to.

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            Ha! I actually had mentioned that to my mom when we were rewatching. Saying he never used it again. And ya on my rewatch I noticed he did try to use it again.

            Well, he never really talks about his curse on his leg being resolved (the one he took from Jin Ling) and you really never figure out how it was resolved. Well, he does mention it is resolved but it is a very vague single liner that I only picked up on on my rewatch. On my first watch I thought he was still cursed with it until the end of the drama, and thought he kept being sick because of that.

            In the Yin Arc unless it was translated incorrectly the boys mention Ah Qing looks to be about 16. But then in the flashback it goes back 10 years. So she would have been 6 years old when her and Xiao Xing Chen met unless the boys were really wrong in guessing her age.

            In the last few episodes in the temple I’m not quite sure why they didn’t all just skedaddle out of there while the baddies were busy with the digging. After Jiang Cheng came he had killed all the guards out front so the way was open to them. They were very cooperative with their captors. And later on only WWX and JC gets their hands tied. Even if LZ and LXC sealed themselves they still could pose a threat (which they proved). Just seemed complacent of Jin Guangyao who up to this point was very thorough in everything he did.

            There are more odd and end things and of course these are nit-picking things and they didn’t detract from the drama. But like I’ve mentioned before, the drama is definitely not perfect but I still don’t care as it created such deep feelings in me that even with flaws it is my favorite drama.

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            I thought the same about AQing! But remember I came up with a logical solution, though I can’t recall now exactly what my explanation was.
            The curse wasn’t brought up again, I wonder if it was a cut scene – it would only have taken a second to resolve. How was it resolved in the novel?
            I took the bound people as a threat, but he figured since LZ and LXC weren’t bound that JG assumed they weren’t a threat. Or the uninformed viewer wouldn’t know they still were a threat.
            You can come up with explanations for just about every inconsistency. I remember there used to be a book many years ago explaining all the inconsistencies and plot holes of the original Star Trek. It was hilarious.

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          I solved the Ah Qing dilemma. When I was 26 people thought I was 16. When I was 30 I looked like I was 19 or 20, in fact, I dated guys that were 20 because they thought I was their age. And no, I wasn’t any more mature than a 20 year old.
          So there you go, problem solved.

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            Ha! That’s why I said ‘unless the boys were really wrong in guessing her age’ because I know people can look younger/older then they are. I also look younger then I do (I went to donate blood once while in my mid-20s and they wanted me to come back with a guardian as they thought I was under 18).

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      And I haven’t watched the first 14 episodes lately – the later episodes get better, correct?

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        Ya. Even on my rewatch I just wanted them to hurry and get to the meatier stuff. Even though I feel like the first 14 or so episodes are important for both the characters and to frame the story, and I love seeing them as carefree teenagers, I am just eager to get to the exciting bits. So if I rewatched it again I think I would skip around on those parts.

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          Exactly. First, as most of us probably do, I’ll re-watch my favorite scenes (you know which ones) a dozen times. Then I’ll choose a story arc to watch. What surprised me yesterday was how good the big battle scene was against the Wens. I had just read about the cast spending a couple of weeks learning sword techniques and really noticed how well that battle was done. I think the first time I watched it I kind of ff thru the battle.

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          I also noticed way more of the longing gazes LZ gave WY than previously. It’s so obvious and before I thought it was more subtle.

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            I’m now at ep 21.

            I am going crazy with all the LZ and WY interactions! You are right in a sense. It’s still subtle but more obvious now because we know a lot more!

            I feel both their pain more intensely. For WY, much comes from his loss of the core and how he had to hide it from everyone, pretending nothing has changed. For LZ, I can see how disturbed, worried and hurt he is. I don’t know how WYB conveyed all these emotions with very minute expressions.

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          I think WYB has a very emotional looking face to begin with. He doesn’t have to do much for it to be obvious. So glad he was cast in that role.

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