Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

Adorable, adorable scene from The Untamed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u_OI6bSPKA

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The Untamed OST duet: now with Eng subs and vid. Better version. Will it have a sad ending?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKSQTDDv0A

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    No. Just…no. Please, no. I will cry.

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    How is the drama so far?? I see the promos and see all the PRETTY, but pressing play on a new drama (not necessarily newly released but a new drama for myself to watch) is such a hard thing for me to do lately

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      Although the question wasn’t directed at me, it’s…ok. I’m on episode 11 I think. The first couple episodes were ok enough. The last few were really boring and kinda annoying imo. I was kinda struggling. Certain stupid things were happening and I was like, what? Having said that, the two main leads keep in interesting enough. That and I did not know when I started it that it was based off a BL novel. Kinda, but not really spoilers ahead. Then I heard that it picks up in a bit and is a lot more true to its queerness than censors usually allow. That got me super interested in sticking with it to see what happens.

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        Good to know!!

        Yea, I actually went on Youtube to search up and watch the official MV of this song, and it showed snippets of the drama, and just from that, I already sense that it was sort of a BL storyline… Maybe the queerness is super subtle, fashioned as a bromance/personal loyalty/ brotherhood (like most male-centric wuxia dramas like to have), and that’s why they were able to get past the censors??? 🙂

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      I wasn’t bored with any of the episodes. I did hear some complaints on another site that the “flashback” was way too long. But I think it will last for at least half the drama (I could be wrong). Instead of linear storytelling, it begins 16 years after most of the story. Then I think at the end of ep 2 he wishes he could go back and then reminisces about what happened 16 years ago, before he died.
      I guess boredom is subjective, so you’ll have to decide for yourself!

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      I was confused the first episode but by the end of the 2nd it was obviously not linear. Did a bit of research on the novel, donghua, and reviews to figure it out. Re-watched it and now it makes sense. Most fans who’ve read the novel and watched the donghua knew exactly what was going on. So now I’ve learned more of how to read non-linear storytelling and in this one, I see where things that happen 16 years ago relate to the now.

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The Untamed OST: Another beautiful OST, sung by the two male leads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNTezIKvilQ

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Great article explaining difference of supernatural creatures in Chinese literature vs Eng. interpretation:
https://tvislove.wordpress.com/2019/06/30/chinese-supernatural-creatures/comment-page-1/#com

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Kage no Gundan ending theme song (brings back memories)

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    Kage no Gundan -edit didn’t work.

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    The Yagyu Conspiracy aka Yagyū Ichizoku no Inbō !

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      I used to have it on VHS but no more. Would love to find any dvd’s at a reasonable cost!

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      Hopefully the ending song link now works…I have season one of Kage no Gundan on DVD.

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      For those who don’t know what we’re talking about, Kage no Gundan aka Shadow Warriors (1980) and Yagyu Conspiracy (1978) both starred Sonny Chiba as historical ninja/samurai types. I much preferred Yagyu.

      Chiba much later appeared in Kill Bill as a character with the same name as his KnG character, presumably his descendant.

      In the commentaries to Kill Bill, director refers to Shadow Warriors, but not (ifrc) Yagyu. However, Kill Bill includes some music from Yagyu (at 1:41:00) and lines from the Yagyu opening credits (at 15:40 & 58:05)

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        Chiba Shinichi (Sonny) played Hattori Hanzo in the Edo era (Koga clan?) but Yagyu Conspiracy he was Yagyu Jubei, a different time and clan, protecting Iemetsu (hope I’m correct!). That’s why in Kill Bill the director could mention Hattori Hanzo but not Yagyu Jubei.
        If you ever find where to watch Yagyu, let us know! As I said, I have the first season of Shadow Warriors on DVD but they never made the other seasons.
        I only have the first season of

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    Wait – what happened to the link? Grrr….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8OJmtfTvDc

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Viki is going to air NIF English dubbed. Say what? Talk about ruining an Asian drama by changing the whole character. Aargh.

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    dubbing is the absolute WORST!! they try to keep the inflections of the original language and it just comes out wrong, or they lack the energy/emotion and it just comes out flat….

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    What?! Will the dubbing be done by volunteers too?

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      😄😄😄
      Let’s hope Viki would allocate money for voice actor. I can’t imagine if it’s done by volunteers. It would be like those silly voice over videos on YouTube.

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    They want to erase Wang Kai’s voice??? Why???

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    But are they going to remove the original voices then? If so, Nooooo!! It’s been on my To Watch list and I never got around to it. I need to make some major time to get that done if it’s going to be removed (or if already removed, then oh no!!!)

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      I imagine either they’ll still have the original with subtitles and another dubbed, or give you a choice of sub or dub. Can’t imagine they’d take away the subtitled version.

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The Fated General: Another Zhang Ruoyan to look forward to and it’s supposed to be quite good. OST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXG5HbD-igo

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Woah, even better Elvis Han:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2mEXI0-YhY

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    I think this is my favorite one.

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      Yep, this is even better.

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        @outofthisworld: While watching Elvis Han in Wu Xin, I discovered another actor to obsess over: Zhang Ruo yun, who played the straw man. I was impressed so looked up his other dramas: Dr Qin, Sparrow, Novoland: Castle in the Sky, etc. He’s really good, and intense. I like when actors play totally different personalities in different dramas.

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          Ha! I didn’t know he was that weird looking chap I often see when the bloggers at dr myri blogspot were raving over when they recap Novoland.

          He did make an impression on me in Wu Xin, he gave me the feeling that he would be superb at playing sullen hurt heroes, haha.

          Seems like there are more and more C drama actors that are noteworthy!

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            From what I read from comments about Novoland, they hated him at first but the character changed and they ended up loving him. That’s what makes a great actor (of course the director helps). He plays a great Dr Qin too. I haven’t started Sparrow yet, but wow does he look great. I’ve heard his acting is fantastic in that one too. Always nice to find a good actor who looks and acts come together nicely.

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OMO: Elvis Han singing and it’s really nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERopfe8Ysao

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This is why I can no longer watch a bunch of shows:
https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/13210849#

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Elvis Han OST from Never Gone:
https://www.viki.com/tv/36376c-never-gone

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Maybe not the most gorgeous OST ever but he’s the most gorgeous male ever. Love this drama!
https://www.viki.com/videos/1139187v-opening-theme-song

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    Link isn’t working but I’m curious as to what song it is! I love OSTs.

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    Omo! Is this the actor who played Yang Yang’s roommate who had the bromance with Zhang Binbin in Love O2O?

    He’s cute. I like a bit more “smoulder,” but you can see that he and ZBB would have great visuals! Ha!

    Talk about gorgeous men – well, maybe boy is more appropriate. Has this kid even hit 21 yet? – I came across this yesterday. It seems some fans of the series are upset about the casting, but I haven’t gotten around to watching the first 2 parts of this series, so I’m excited. DW was the main reason I enjoyed Meteor Gatden 2018.

    Love the clips of how they film the fight scenes. Looks like DW does his own stunts – and I see he’s on crutches in a few frames, so he must have gotten a few injuries.

    https://youtu.be/5B74-BXXIoo

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      @vespertyne Watched your video of DW, he’s just not doing it for me. He just doesn’t compare to Chen Fei Ye’s Ning Que.
      Have you seen Oriental Odyssey with Zheng Ye Cheng? It’s fun and light hearted but with lots of heart. Some people can’t stand the lead actress so didn’t like the drama, but I’d never seen her before and thought she played a perfect 16 year old bratty teen.

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        I replied to that video you posted for Oriental Odyssey. I think it was on your personal page at dramabeans. Did you not see it?

        Sounds as if you and I have very similar, but not exactly the same, taste in men. Excellent! We can go virtual bar hopping together, and not want to always dance with the same guy! ;-D

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          Oh, now I get it. That’s why it said you replied to my “post” not my comment. Glad you liked the vid! I have three favorite c-dramas: Nirvana in Fire 2, because of the family relationships, the female lead wasn’t annoying, and Liu Hao Ran’s role Ping Jing was a wonderful coming of age story. btw, he has a “book” and for someone so young (21) he’s very wise (I can get the link to it if you like). Oriental Odyssey because as I said, it’s fun, light hearted and yet has heart. #3, Legend of Fuyao because Ethan Juan acted his heart out and because not only were they both willing to sacrifice themselves for the other, the worked as a team for half the series instead of the typical being apart til the end. There was never anyone else who came between them as a “love triangle.”

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            Duly noted. I’ll add them all to my list. I already have both of the Nirvana in Fire series “followed,” and I think I may have also tagged Legend of Fuyao, but could be one of the other many “Legend of” series!

            I really like the Chinese dramas, because I love period dramas, with all the gorgeous costumes and sets. And the fight scenes are gorgeous. Give me a beautifully choreographed, balletic fight scene over a romcom any day! And in a historical/period drama, those fights are enhanced by the long flowing costumes and hair, for both men and women.

            I truly hate sad endings, though. I really want my favorite guys to (1) live, and (2) get the girl, in that order!

            I feel guilty for rarely liking a female character, but I’ve thought about it. It’s not that I only watch these dramas for the beautiful men, although I admit that’s definitely a draw. It’s that I almost always dislike the way the women characters are written, and how the actresses are directed to portray the role. I hate the ditzy girl trope, the poor Cinderella saved by snotty rich guy whose mother hates her trope, the tacky low class mother trope, the girl who eats like a sloppy pig (which men inexplicably find adorable??) trope, and the just about every trope that makes the female characters helpless, dumb, dependent, etc. very unattractive. I particularly hate the way the female characters often have baby girl voices, giggle with their eyes downcast, and stiffen up when they are kissed, despite the fact they are often in thei mid to late 20s.

            Considering how rare it is to find a drama with a lead female character who doesn’t exhibit multiple character tropes I dislike, I really love the rare ones I find! Or the ones where the FL has many of those characteristics, but manages to be totally hilarious and adorable in the context of that particular drama, like Jun Ji-Hyun in You From Another Star. At first I was appalled, but then I loved her silly, self-centered, clueless character, because it was such a perfect contrast to the stoic Spock-like alien that Kim Soo-Hyun played, and was integral to the story and romance.

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            @vespertyne I feel exactly the same way you do re how female characters are portrayed, with the exception of the female lead in Oriental Odyssey. For some reason her character’s brattiness fit in with the “fun, light-hearted” character of the drama. Plus, I wasn’t going to let anything bother me as long as I got to see Zheng Yi Cheng! But my favorite female is probably Lin Xi in NIF 2. She was a doctor, serious, quiet, unassuming, confident, self assured. Ping Jing was young, carefree, talkative but she was his best friend, his confidant and they literally ended up riding off into the sunset at the end! Ha! Fuyao and WuJi were flirty. In fact, I showed a bit of episode 21 to a friend and she said that was the best foreplay she’d ever seen – another Ha! I never watched You From Another Start because (unlike you) I couldn’t get over the lead female’s silliness. Now it’s too late, there are too many other dramas in the queue!

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            @vespertyne Re Sad Endings as opposed to Happy Endings. I follow Melody on YouTube – she reviews Chinese dramas. She says in Chinese fantasy, when the male gets to come back it’s considered a happy ending. Some people don’t get that. Mu Le was loyal, only ever loved Yuan An and was willing to sacrifice himself for that love (even though that’s a normal trope in C fantasy). That’s why he got to go back to her, even though he died, well, I think he dies about three times altogether, but this is fantasy after all. Plus, they actually get married twice, though she doesn’t recall the first time because she hadn’t lived it yet.

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      @vespertyne News flash! Hotpot.tv is now streaming c-dramas and t-dramas. I’m now getting to watch The Legends with Xu Kai with English subs! So excited – I’ve been trying to watch it raw on YouTube, but how did Hotpot sub it so quickly?

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        That looks good! The main actor is OK – doesn’t really do much for me – but the story looks good.

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          But Xu Kai is well over 6 ft with huge hands. But he has such a baby face.

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            I love tall men, and I like a pretty face, but I tend to like the pretty men with strong, sharply defined features. (Which is why I like Dylan Wang’s looks, especially in the costume and hairstyle in that Nirvana in Fire clip. One Korean actor who I keep saying, “how can anyone be that gorgeous?” when I watch his dramas is Ji Chang Wook. That guy is beautiful!)

            Not that it’s applicable in this case (I’ve never seen Xu Kai before, and know nothing at all about him), but I find that sometimes these actors/actresses get so much plastic surgery that they end up looking very westernized. Sometimes, especially in the Kdramas, I can barely tell that some of the actors – mostly the women – are even Korean, which I think is unfortunate.

            I find Asian men (and women) very beautiful, which is why I think I like the sageuks so much. The traditional costumes and hair styles really enhance their natural beauty.

            I also find some of the cultural differences in who is considered beautiful interesting. I rarely think the actresses who are considered to be the most beautiful are that outstanding. For example, the “campus beauty” in Gangnam Beauty was totally average looking to me. I thought the actress who played the class representative was the prettiest of the girls. And in Love O2O, the lead female was supposedly one of the two “campus beauties,” and her roommate, who the gaming community mistakenly identified as the main female character, was supposedly unattractive, even ugly, which was just ridiculous. I could barely watch her annoying ditzy-girl character, but the actress herself had a very charming elfin prettiness. Even if the preferred look was a girl who was 5 foot 7 and weighed 95 pounds, with long hair, there was no way any normal person would call her roommate ugly.

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          @vespertyne I can’t define just one thing that I find attractive and/or appealing. There are some men that I think are sexy but not pretty, some men are pretty, etc. I could only list some of the ones that appeal: Ethan Juan (Ruan) I’d put at the top of my list, for some undefined reason. The pretty ones: Xu Kai, Zheng Ye cheng for example. The first time I saw Lee Min Ki I thought he was weird looking, but after seeing a few of his film and dramas, I think he’s incredibly sexy. Some actors are the huggable type – ah, that’s what’s appealing about Ethan Juan plus he has so much charisma.
          I’m so with you on Asian beauty (at least the actors!), especially the eyes. I swear my daughter’s eyes are the same as Xu Kai’s, but then her great grandma was Chinese. Ha, coincidentally, my daughter’s name is also Kai.
          As far as Asian female actors beauty, I don’t pay much attention…

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    Elvis Han! I need to go back and finish Wu Xin.

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    I’m so crazy about this song to the extent I wanted to translate the lyrics but I don’t think beanies are much into C dramas. Moreover, I found that the lyrics had already been translated.

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      Beautiful lyrics. I’ve found the piano music, which is really nice, and the lyrics in Chinese characters, English pronunciation and English words. Happy camper here. I still love it. And btw, Wu Xin is coming to VIKI! Yay!!

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    The guy can sing too????

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      I know, huh! I was quite surprised.

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        He’s like a very well-rounded entertainer (not just ‘actor): He can act, sing, is the mood-maker on set, is multilingual… 🙂

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          Aww, where did you read the’s the “mood-maker” on set? I’d like to read more about him too.

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            Oh, if you just watch his interview clips with his co-stars and behind-the-scenes clips from his dramas, he seems like he’s always having fun and being the mood maker 🙂

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    I saw a clip of this show on YT. He’s absolutely adorable, very natural and good in kissing scenes. Kdrama bad kissing made me hyper allergic to them so I am happy to discover that C dramas do better in what I’ve seen so far.

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      The best kissing scene I’ve seen in a drama is Ethan Ruan in Fated to Love You. Taiwan seems to be a bit more progressive than some other Asian countries.

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        Yes, Ethan is good. I can’t remember the kissing scene but gosh, I liked Fated to Love You TW version so much. Cried buckets. Have you seen another old show – My Queen? My first and best noona romance.

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          What? You don’t remember the scene on the cruise ship that started it all? It was actually more than kissing, but lots of kissing. I liked when they showed the train going thru the tunnel, the missiles firing, ahem. I think I’m on my 3rd watch of My Queen…

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            Hahaha….I only remember that they were high and very much into it.

            So you loved My Queen too! By the way, the OSTs were beautiful. I have always been amazed by how talented the Taiwanese are at composing songs. So many of my favorites come from them.

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          And the best “foreplay” scene is Ethan Ruan and Yang Mi in Legend of Fuyao.

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          And the best naked scene (rear not frontal, heh) is Ethan Ruan in Paradise in Service.

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Why do I find it suspicious that there isn’t even a mention of DF on Dramabeans?

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    It could be that DB is affiliated with another media outlet and therefore probably finds it best to not comment. I’m speculating, but all the video clips they post on the site are from Kocowa.

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      Yes, but it’s still newsworthy. I know they’re now associated with Kocowa, or at least with Rakuten (which btw apparently is one of the largest corporations(?) in the world.

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    What do you mean? We Beanies have been talking about it all day!

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      Where? Where?

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        You have to hunt it down on everyone’s fan walls. I asked them to make a post so we could all comment together but there’s been no response.

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        Sorry about that. I generally read the fan walls all day when I have a chance and have simply been reading and responding to the different conversations. So like @bbstl said there isn’t one place to chat.

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          It’s such a weird feeling, it almost reminds me of when the government pretends that something isn’t happening. But I’m a bit over sensitive to the government these days 😉 I guess we can all talk on OT on Friday if we still have something to say.

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        I wrote like a freaking essay on my wall…

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