Beanie level: Chaebolโ€™s poor doppelganger

The Untamed ep 1-2

Hello fans! Could any of you explain some of the rules of their fantasy world? Will all of that be explained later? After so many pretty pics I’ve finally given this a chance but it’s a bit confusing. I know I could just do some research but I don’t want any spoilers for the rest of the story. What are these immortal people? Are they even really immortal? How did they become that? Where is the guy Wei Wuxian is replacing? How did he come back to life?

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    I don’t watch a ton of xianxia or wuxia shows so I don’t want to say anything incorrect but maybe this link will help till the beanies who are more familiar with the genre see your post. https://immortalmountain.wordpress.com/glossary/wuxia-xianxia-xuanhuan-terms/

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    I think someone can explain it better than me but since I am here, I will try:
    1) the drama opens with WWX’s death and then goes back to where it all started. It will return to the present in ep 32
    2) this is not xianxia(fantasy) but wuxia. The people aren’t immortal, they die. It’s just that the cultivators like WWX, Lan Wangji etc are people with super powers, cultivated from years of training. Think of it like martial arts training but with X-men fantasy powers thrown in the mix.
    3) WWX died when he fell off. His body was never found. His soul/spirit was summoned back to Mo Xuanyu’s body to take revenge on the latter’s behalf. More about Mo Xuanyu will be revealed in the later part of the drama. In short, Mo sacrificed his own spirit to exact revenge on his tormentors.
    4) It might be confusing that WWX looked exactly like himself and not Mo Xuanyu. I haven’t come across any explanation but I guess they just didn’t want to use another actor. This however doesn’t explain why it’s so in the anime too.

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      btw, you can refer to this blog for information on the characters etc https://modao-zushi.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters

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      Waahh!!! I always thot that wei wuxian was saved just minutes after he fell from dat cliff… by mo xuanyu… and was kept in sort of coma …. atleast that’s wat I cud make out with the subs…. so wat really happened?

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        That would have made Mo Xuanyu a child when WWX died. The drama is kinda loose with this because of the censors so it’s not really explained (some even theorize he never actually died).

        But in the book WWX died and 13 years later (16 in the drama) Mo Xuanyu used a forbidden technique that brings back WWX spirit by sacrificing his own spirit and body. The drama is similar but he doesn’t sacrifice his body as it is WWX’s body that comes back (China forbids possession of body which is why this was probably changed). But he was fully dead, with his spirit scattered in the book.

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        which part with subs?

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      For 4: Probably because Chinese censors forbids possessing another body which is essentially what he does in the novels.

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        Why would they forbid such a thing?

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          China has A LOT of ridiculous censors. Like no zombies, no possession, no time travel, the hero has to always be good (no anti-heroes), and many more. Most of these affected this drama and had to make some big changes to the details of the story to avoid the censors. 🙄

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            I can already imagine I’m going to ask everything they changed to fit these crazy rules.

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      Thank you so much @kirti98, @outofthisworld

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    I say just stick with it. The first 2 episodes are horribly confusing. It starts with his death, jumps forward 16 years, then it jumps back 16 years to where everything started that leads up to his death. I didn’t really start getting into the drama until around ep. 7 and then I didn’t really get addicted until about ep. 15 (where everything starts going down).

    The best bet is to kinda ignore the first 2 episodes right now as you will have no idea who anyone is or what’s going on. After it gets back to that present time (ep. 33) then rewatch those first 2 episodes again.

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      Thanks! I will, it was confusing but engaging and the lead is very charismatic.

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        Wei Wuxian is what first got me into the drama. He is a very charismatic and fun character and his actor did an excellent job with his character.

        But the drama will all make sense as it progresses! I actually had these same questions when I first started watching.

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Camellia ep 7

I thought DB was on the way to becoming a nice person. I’m back disliking her after this episode. Is it so hard in Korea for a father to have a relationship with a child if he is not married to the mother? Pil-Gu is such a sweet kid and he clearly wants to know his dad but she prefers to keep him away. She prefers PG never knew he was kind instead of having that kindness from his real father.

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Love Affairs in the Afternoon ep 16

I liked it, nice ending. A bit moralistic though, maybe? I wish it was more On the Way to the Airport and less Valid Love. I am curious, the regular adults in SK way of thinking is more toward OTWA or LAITA? Are cheaters dire offenders that deserve punishment from heaven or simple humans that make mistakes like everyone else? Comments below.

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    Everybody got their happy ending. That’s nice, the worst thing they could have done would be to punish JE and JW even more, however they made it so clear that they had to pay the penance for their affair that the story seems to be saying it was a crime. JE really needed time to deal with her own issues but this was very briefly explored in the narrative, for 15 eps show acted as if it was totally normal for her to detest herself even when she was only shoplifting a lipstick. Strange Bird Husband and Bossy Wife apparently turned into regular nice people instantly after getting a divorce, they met their new spouses and had children faster than lightning! I don’t like to say everything in a drama has some hidden meaning or a message but it’s quite impossible not to understand the writer is saying JW and JE could not, or would not, or should not, be allowed to be happy before their previous spouses were. SooAh got her happy ending by finding a new life and being near her kids, I understand she would not go back to her husband because she didn’t love him anymore but it wasn’t explained why DH could not come back to her. I don’t want to say maybe the writer thinks she comitted too many sins because it’s ridiculous. I prefer to believe her husband became a better person and in time they fell in love in again.

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      I think everything during the time jump could’ve made better story lines. As in less unneeded drama and forceful separation caused by spouses and more time on the wifes looking for their happiness on their own. An arc of independence and (re) discovery of themselves for both women, one about love for all spouses who were cheated on and self-reflection on their marriage, bio teacher learns to stand up for himself (he and Ji Eun are similar in that aspect). The artist had his “conclusion” with his wife. So simple that it just screamed plot convenience to me.

      For the finale, I think he didn’t have a reason not to come back. That’s the one point I can’t understand because Soo Ah has a good relationship with her kids. Unless, this happiness exists because she’s allowed to live on her own but not with the man she loves. A kind of punishment for me. I don’t know if she and her ex husband will get back together but I won’t support it because her daughters and the artist were the only ones she felt happy with. Ji Eun and bio teacher look hopeful but the show doesn’t unveil their happy times. Like I supposed, bird husband had a happy. His mother doesn’t remember the whole affair and divorce and that looked like an other way to make Ji Eun guilty and his new wife to have a smoother path.

      The last episode left a bitter taste because it could’ve shown us the characters’ journey to their 3-years-later life.

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      I loved the drama, but I wonder why SA and the artist didn’t end together, too. I didn’t want and happy ending for both the women at all costs, I rather expected she would return home with her husband sacrificing herself for her children. It would be sad and unjust, but logic in some way. This separation is meaningless to me. He sent her a painting to her new home, so he knew she had left her husband…
      I wonder if her words: “A woman like me doesn’t deserve to stay with you” weren’t noble idiocy but real SA’s thoughts (and writer’s).
      I think Bird Husband’s happiness was necessary to JE’s one, to erase her feeling guilty. I like that Clara told her to live the way she wanted and that she hadn’t murdered anyone. At least one of them thought so!

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        Yes, I didn’t understand what she or the writer meant by that phrase either and it’s possibly very moralistic. I understand JE needed to be rid of her guilty feelings but I would prefer if she had done that independently, she only searched for JW after discovering JW’s wife and her ex husband were remarried.

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          Sorry for writing so late. Thinking about Soo-Ah and the painter and her words… it must be only a self-punishment, I can’t see another explanation, even if to me it really is unfair. This consideration lowered a little the enjoyment I had from the drama. If people can be happy, it is a pity wasting their life choosing living unhappy.

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Hotel del Luna ep13

a small rant

warning: If you love HDL maybe continue to next post

I haven’t even finished thie ep yet, saved the rest for later. I know it’s silly but again I was surprised at how unlikable and unpleasant these characters can be, and people love them. The Maid’s grudge made me mad. In 200 years she has learned almost nothing. I don’t understand how they keep talking about karma but they act as if it doesn’t exist.

All the people responsible for her murder and her daughter’s are long dead, even the people that would believe such stupid prophecy are long gone, the world changed. She is in a job that reminds her evryday that people do bad things and have bad things done to them, but they move on, they have to, and they pay for their deeds. Well, except for the hotel staff, they don’t regret or pay for much.

I hadn’t even forgiven her for trying to make the manager go crazy for selfish reasons and she is already plotting to kill a baby. I have to say it’s also lovely how she is still completely a fan of the patriarchy system, she only hates the kid if it’s a boy. The family doesn’t go on if baby is girl because girls don’t matter. Nice lady.

MW remains adorable, half an hour in and she’s joking about killing the baby. CS doesn’t even get angry at her stupid joke, if that’s even a joke, and when he helps the woman MW calls her an enemy of the Maid. An Enemy. Sure because in 1300 years she also learned nothing. Again karma doesn’t really exist for them. She is ready to prove this once more when she allows the possibility of MiRa getting hurt by the ghost. Yes, she changed her mind after the Maid was incapable of letting the baby die. How thoughtful of her. And she confesses again that her grudge is wanting to kill the captain again, even though she already did all that and CS is not even questioning her sanity because he is busy telling her he will make her painful memories go away, why would he even care about her morality.

I shuld also add Bellboy is so nice, he is probably around 90 years old and he thinks it’s ok to be romantic with a lonely teenager even if he plans to leave her soon. How do they even get chosen to work in this hotel? Is it enough to have a grudge and not be a psycho? Are they picked by MW’s excellent moral compass?

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Love Affairs in the Afternoon ep 15

This show should have been a 12 ep drama. So much filler, this ep had maybe 15 min of real story. I was surprised ChangGook and MinYoung went full villain mode while rich husband behaved more like a decent person. I wish we knew why JiEun had such low self esteem it would explain a lot about her. Also why would they ever sign this crazy contract? Yes, I know they feel guilty but they are already leaving their loved one for this guilt, the contract is just petty revenge just like MY said she would do. I know CG’s mom means well but she is also stupid pretending JE was on vacation somewhere. After going to such lenghts to make the spouses so selfish it’s going to be strange if JW or JE remain with them. Anyway the subs for ep 16 are taking a long time. Maybe subbers disliked it and are revolting kkk.

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    I have to agree it was unnecessary to make the spouses so horrid. Especially Min Young. The writers wanted to justify the affair to be honest, and that makes me think they want to give everyone a happy ending. The Japanese original was written with the aim of showing how women are oppressed by societal norms and expectations, and even when they appear perfect on the outside, they can be a mess inside. I don’t think it had a happy ending, but I can’t remember it. Here though, the writers will probably end it well. I haven’t seen ep 16 either btw and am loosely following it so this is speculation. No spoilers intended

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      Yes and also why so many apologies? Must they apologize to everyone all the time and JE feel so unworthy? She was like that even before the affair, she doesn’t even need a romance, she needs therapy as does her husband. The subs are available! I will come back later to post about the finale.

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    I fast forwarded a lot! It seems like the long-term married couple will get back together because of the kids. I hate that they’re using them to bring the wife back because she wants to be with her daughters, not her husband. If he acknowledged his wrong doings and let her be happy as a sign of love, I would be more satisfied. As for the kids, they will need time to adjust or accept the situation or even years to talk to their mother again.

    The artist’s “wife” is infuriating because the “not legally divorced” card was a way to create more unneeded drama. Arrrrrgh. Among everyone, I only feel sympathy for the artist and the youngest daughter who isn’t aware of everything going.

    The other couple… Is the writer giving us a Romeo and Juliet narrative with everyone being against them and dying tragically (or disappearing together as a happy ending). The crazy wife, because at this point she’s not sane, is going to do something to her baby or anything dangerous to hold on her husband. She gives crazy vibes, more like a monster and not a cheated wife. In that sense, the writer did great in not wanting us to root for her but that’s too much. I feel like only the bird husband will have a happy ending because he’s a “good guy” and a pretty young woman is waiting for him anyway.

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      Yes, if dramas are realistic about that, it seems it’s very difficult for divorced women in SK.
      The artist’s first wife was indeed unnecessary, why add one more crazy ex to this.
      I also feel like the writer went too far to make the audience like and understand the cheaters, but that is still a way of saying cheating is a terrible thing to do when they should have been saying everyone is allowed to be happy and it’s not always easy to end previous relationships.
      Bird husband is not a good guy, he just pretends to be. He spent 3 years ignoring and treating his wife as a surrogate mother, he has deep issues and like I said above, needs therapy instead of romance, and in 15 when he repeatedly denied her a divorce even when she begged, he crossed the line into badguy land.

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        About the bird husband, you’re right he’s pretending to be nice, hence the “good guy”.

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Lovers in the Afternoon
Does anyone know the original? I like the show but Jian is a bit strange. Why does she feel she has to stay with the husband? Does she think that’s what she deserves? Will this story be some morality lesson?

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    I don’t know the original but Ji-eun asked for a divorce? If you meant why she stayed with him despite his neglect, well – that’s culture.

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      I should have said I’m still on ep 10 and she stayed with him even after the affair. She just felt guilty and had no plans of divorce so I felt she was a little strange even for their culture.

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        ๐Ÿคฆ my bad. Sorry for the spolier lixie. But about the culture thing, my country thinks similarly about divorce and people stay together despite abuse, cheating and more. I think it fits with the culture that she wouldn’t think of divorce deposited the cheating.

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          It’s ok don’t worry someone else had already talked about this. This culture thing is what surprises me when people are so quick to judge anyone about affairs, like anyone can get a divorce so easily and people don’t have any right to put themselves first.

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Hello Beanies

I’m in the mood for some romance!

Do you have any romance drama recomendations? I’ll add a list to give an idea of the kind I like:

Good – My Girl, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Date, Another Miss Oh, Familiar Wife, Go Back Couple, I Hear Your Voice, We Married as Job, On the Way to the Airport, The Greatest Love.

Bad – Secretary Kim, Touch Your Heart, Boyfriend, Your House Helper, BTLIOF.

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    Jealousy Incarnate, Masters Sun, Marriage Not Dating, My Name is Kim Sam Soon

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      Tks! I liked JI and Masters a lot, MND not so much and MNIKSS I dropped because I felt it was too old fashioned, the FL was too weak though I love the actress, maybe because of that.

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        I Need Romance 3. Never saw the other two so I canโ€™t recommend those. Witchโ€™s Romance, Hoguโ€™s Love, Coffee Prince, Oh My Ghostess

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    Not sure if you will like Twelve Nights..

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    Scent of a Woman. I know I’m starting to sound like a broken record😂

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    Marriage not dating

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    Based on your list, you may wanna try:

    1) It’s Ok, That’s Love
    2) FantastiC
    3) You From Another Star
    4) I’m Not A Robot

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    My Love From The Star?

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    Maybe try:
    – Strongest Deliveryman
    – 21st Century Boy and Girl
    – My ID is Gangnam Beauty

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    Twenty Again
    Dalja’s Spring: looks dated but the plot is not
    Hoogoo’s Love
    Marriage Not Dating: best MIL arc in a drama
    Witch’s Romance: light as air, but short and fun
    Hazardous Wife: not technically a romance, but you should watch it anyway

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      Thanks! I never finished Dalja’s after the first eps but I’ll give it another chance!

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Sky Castle Ep 19

It was a very nice episode. Many touching moments.

The Kangs were such terrible people, I was surprised to find their redemption arc believable, but I did, nicely done.

Couch Kim finally made sense when it seemed all she wanted was someone to do the right thing, to prove to her it was possible. I still don’t buy the idea she does it because she is sort of a sociopath full of envy of those privileged people. Then she met SooMi and was back to being the wicked witch.

I disliked what Seung Hye did, it was cheap and manipulative. What kind of lesson is she giving her children? If he accepts her rules she just goes back to a marriage without love?

It was refreshing to have WJ be such a real boy simply being angry at the Kangs and not forgiving them right away.

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    Cha’s being comic relief take toll on their portrayal, I don’t think from what we saw redemption is possible in last episode, but Seung Hye, I feel she try to repair relationship between kids and their father, that how I explain it to myself because I don’t see what’s the point in saving marriage that didn’t work from the start. Or it’s possible that for the writer divorce is not an option. I would prefere if they divorce in civil manner and let him rebuild relationship with his children and for Seung Hye to became kick ass divorce lawyer.

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      Yes, me too, I think if she chooses to stay with him just to make his relationship with the kids better it sends a bad message. I thought in ep 18 she had a good evolution and became a more responsible parent and in this ep she took 2 steps back.

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    It’s interesting regarding Seung-hye and the possibility of her going back to a loveless marriage. A couple of episodes ago, she stated that she got married to basically get away from her patriarchal father ….. so it seems love wasn’t really part of the equation to begin with.

    With the lessons she learned at the side of her father and later the life she’s had with her husband have served to finally open her eyes and helped her see the faults of the system, so to speak. It’s at this later stage in her life that’s she’s garnered the courage to finally challenge said system ….. and this act of challenging is what I think she’s trying to show her children. We don’t know if she’ll be successful and even she doesn’t know, really, but maybe she’s making an attempt to show her children that perhaps it is possible to break out of the long-established mold that has dictated the lives of so many for so long and perhaps find happiness.

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      Yes, but I thought her challenge meant she also cared about her own marriage, instead she is using this as leverage to get something he should be able to agree on his own.

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        I get the sense that she’s realized she should have just married someone else. While I certainly won’t discount that on some level she does care about her marriage, it has taken a back seat because she cares more about the children’s well-being.

        It would be great if Professor Cha would agree to change his ways on his own, like you said, but he seems incapable of doing so or is simply unwilling.

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Sky Castle Ep 18

Why am I thinking they won’t explain Coach Kim’s motivation? I just don’t get how she would go from feeling guilty about her daughter to deciding to punish kids and their families for greed which was her own sin.

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    I don’t think she wants to punish the kids. She feels miserable about what happened to her daughter, so she wants the parents to feel miserable like her. She wants to see them hurt and be tormented, the same way as she feels, sort of her revenge on the world. She feels unfair that this happened to her, so she wants the other parents to know that pain. She is targeting the parents not the children. When she picked who she will teach, she wasn’t picking the students. She was picking the parents, the ones that are so devoted to their children and would be willing to do anything to make them succeed, in other words parents similar to her. Then she hurts them using their children.

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      She has to want it. She knew YJ would regret leaving but she still manipulated him to go. She was controlling YS making her an even worse selfish girl, she has killed HN, who despite the blackmailing, was still a kid, she has framed WJ. That’s 4 kids she has planned to mess up one way or another.

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        That’s true but I think the end game is the parents.

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    I don’t think she has a motivation; in fact, I’m not even sure how guilty she feels about her daughter. She’s so selfish that I think she feels angry that she no longer has a prodigy for a child. I don’t think she has a motivation, she simply takes pleasure in other’s misery. And I think that she disguises it in this drive to get these kids into SMU because of her daughter. Before her daughter was the focus of this unhealthy obsession, and it clearly was weighing on the child (per the flashbacks with the husband) but she didn’t care. Coach Kim is the worst part of all the parents distilled into one person.

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      Yes, I don’t know if she feels guilty either which I guess makes it even more weird? I hope she has some reason besides this insane desire to destroy what she wanted for herself, a trophy child, and punish the parents for doing what she did. I would only believe that if she considered herself a victim of this greed but it’s not there so it seems like show is just saying she’s crazy and that’s the explanation.

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        But I don’t think the show is saying she’s just crazy and leaving it. I think it’s more nuanced than that. This woman is clearly a sociopath. That’s what makes her so uncaring and explains why she takes pleasure in the pain of others.

        I think the fact that she uses these kids and their parents is more that it’s a form of pain that she understands and wants to inflict on others. A normal person’s reaction to what happened to her daughter would be to still love and value the child. She clearly is incapable of that. Instead, this tragedy triggered something in her that just made her turn her anger on others and makes them feel the same thing. I don’t think she cares whether they deserve it or not. She just likes making them hurt.

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          She just likes hurting people who were as greedy as her? Without any moral reason? No judgement? It’s too planned, she has to have a reason to target these people.

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            Her reason is they’re easy targets — they are essentially who she was. It’s easy to destroy what you know.

            And it’s not just that she likes destroying people who are as greedy as her — it’s that she takes pleasure in it. That’s what a sociopath does. Morality isn’t part of the equation. Maybe she judges them, but ultimately it’s about her own sociopathic desire to destroy. It’s planned in that she enjoys taking her time to break these people down.

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            I think that she want some kind of reassurance…to not feel guilty … That any other parent would have done the same or even worse if they were in here shoes.Her husband wanted his daughter to live like a normal kid and that s why he wanted to take Key with him And since she saw this as a treat in the way she wanted to use her daughter to fulfil her own desire so she killed him. So she pick this kind of mons who would do anything even murder to “protect them”

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          Yes, the coach is an ultimate sociopath.

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MOA 13

We’re not getting any real explanations? Just JW’s insanely detailed theories about what happened to SJ and Marco? I thought the crazy in this show could not get me mad. Guess I was wrong. ๐Ÿ˜›

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    I am not watching but keeping up with what I can so that I get some explanation of what actually happened.

    I now wonder if the show can end well i.e. answer most of our questions.

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    Wait? I thought it didnโ€™t come from YJโ€™s head?!? That it actually happened and somehow we were seeing how it happened?? ๐Ÿค”

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      No, it was all just theory, SJ isn’t there and there are no records of what happened, it was all only in his head. A lot of details and one simple sentence to explain the crazy game. Emma, a healing NPC, saw SJ getting stabbed. As if that would cause the game to go into reality.

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        Aha! I guess I was too busy looking at dramabeans during that scene hehe! And yeah it does sound stupid! So basically it is still a theory which HASNT been proven 😏

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Sky Castle ep 11

This is why I call this a soap opera. They act crazy just to serve the plot. Hyena was supposed to be smart. We didn’t really know if she was nice but she was clever. Now, I’m supposed to believe this clever girl never bother to ask for details about her father. After she finds out, instead of talking to the guy, she decides to move in with his family and crazy plot finds a way to put her there. Still, I’m trying to believe it. Then she starts screaming with the house maid and throwing stuff on the floor. Because that would surely not be suspicious. A kid could do better.

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    She did ask for details about her father: they just were never given to her. Remember how her mum always told her that her dad died? that was “the details”.
    In my experience of knowing people who learned about their biological fathers very very very late in life, her reactions are actually normal. minus the “revenge plot”. Screaming at the maid is just her acting out on all the pent up rage/frustration/pain. I mean, who else does she have to direct all this to? She’s all alone.

    [typed on Jan 21st, after having watched ep 18. lol]

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Sky Castle
Ep 8
This show is such a soap opera. Are we really supposed to believe a smart kid like Hye-Na never cared to know who her father really was just because he wasn’t there? And the tutor just follows the crazy father into his car? Because? And who exactly got so close to record that conversation between Hye-Na and the other student inside the school? A drone? I want to like this show for having realistic people and the social criticism but the nice moments keep getting sabotaged by either bad logic or the plain boring characters.

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Memories of Alhambra

Beanies, please put the title before the comments so we can avoid any spoiler on the fan wall if we want.
Pretty please?

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Million Stars – This show was so good. Until JG turned into a lunatic. Why would he feel so guilty about the past? Why does he remain mute if JK is who she is? Why would MY leave just because Tak dropped by at the house? Did she need a coffee? Was that more important than JG telling him the truth? That was so stupid.

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    hmm.. he is convinced that JK doesn’t know the truth, he gave up on his own sister for JK..
    JK is basically like his kid.. he is the father..
    so yeah, more than anything he can’t let SIG know the truth and have him come back with his rightful claim on JK..

    worse, it will inevitably reach JK.. JG can’t bear her thinking he is not family or that any 3rd person has a right to top this relationship

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Million Stars – I’ve got to ask. The scene on the street. Does this also happens on the original?
I’ve been defending JG but I didn’t understand him in ep 11 because he had to have told her about the MiYeon murder and whatever happened in the past. That’s better than the crazy thing he did, which would only bring them closer! He knows WS sent some guys to beat him up. He knows how that went. That was crazy. I wonder if they will even try to explain this.

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    Yes, in the J-version he also stabbed Ryo (MY) … Jin Gook just turned seriously crazy… and scary.

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      Thanks. Maybe he wasn’t the nice guy he seemed to be and a lot dumber too.

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      I thought he already read the book before stabbing him. Turns out he didnโ€™t. Donโ€™t know what to think about him anymore. Actually by this point in the J-version I lost interest in everyone. Iโ€™m glad I can at least root for MooYoung and JinKang here โ€” their love feels sooooo deep and real, every kiss pains me.

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Beanies, any recommendations for nice romcoms? After TBS, Familiar Wife and MIGB ended only serious shows are left. Meteor Garden is on hold. I prefer no Cdrama but jdrama is fine.

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    Not sure if you are just wanting recent recommendations but some older ones that are enjoyable are:

    – 9 End 2 Outs
    – My Girlfriend is a Gumiho
    – I Want Romance 3
    – The Woman Who Still Wants to Get Married
    – The Greatest Love
    – City Hall
    – Secret Garden
    – My Name is Kim Sam Soon (hero is a jerk but heroine makes up for it)
    – Da Ja’s Spring
    – Flower Boy Next Door
    – Sly and SIngle Again
    – Marriage not Dating
    – Oh My Venus
    – Another Miss Oh /Oh Hae Again
    – Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo
    – Strong Woman Do Bong Soon

    2018 rom/com I enjoyed:
    – Thirty but Seventeen
    – I’m Not a Robot
    – Radio Romance
    – A Poem A Day

    I’m also enjoying the currently airing drama
    – 100 Days My Prince

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      Thanks for the list! Some of those I loved and some I hated and others I dropped, I want o give Dalja’s another chance but I never put the same actor in 2 shows at same time and he will be back in Beauty Inside. ๐Ÿ™‚

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        The on-going romcom I’m watching atm is Lovely Horribly but stay cautious for some ghostly appearances

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    Have you watched Queen In Hyun’s Man?
    I haven’t finished it yet because I’m watching everything a a snail’s pace right now. But it is really really good.

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I’ve started Your Honor and YSY is must have been high. I mean he has to right? How did he overact so much? And why no pd said anything? He makes me remember when Lee Joon tried to pretend he was a bad actor in Father is Strange. He was much better though!

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    like everyone has said. dont give up on first ep. you will see the difference between soo ho and kang ho soon enough that you will appreciate his acting skills.

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      I watched the first 2 eps, I really like him so I’ll give him a few more chances but it’s like Enrique, the crazy bunny from FBND, decided to pretend being a judge.

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    I’ve been chatting about this with ChinguMode a lot and we came to the conclusion that maybe the PD wanted him to be like this for comedic effect? The drama would get really dark otherwise and maybe he’s asked to be funny to counterbalance that?

    But yeah, I’m not a fan of the snarl. It does get better…

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      Crazy pd! Kang Ho has no reason to be an energizer bunny, YSY should have refused! I’ve been kind of wanting SooHo to come back and smack him on the head even if he is a dirty judge.

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        I just looked back through my ‘What I’m Watching’ Saturday posts and I think I’ve ranted about this EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

        This is what I wrote a couple of weeks ago:
        Your Honor is still trying to decide whether it’s being serious or funny. I studied the genre of ‘one character pretending to be another character’ closely – having watched both Switch and Are You Human?- and I can tell where YSY is going wrong (sorry for YSY fans). What he seems to have missed, is that he’s supposed to play not 2 but 3 characters: Character A, Character B and Character A pretending to be Character B . Because he never does the third bit, I’m left scratching my head wondering if all his colleagues are just stupid or blind, that they don’t realise that the guy who turned up is a completely different person who acts nothing like the judge and has no knowledge of the law. And still I find myself watching it and being interested in the cases that are being tried.

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          Was Switch any good? I am a fan of JGS but I dislike cop stories so I dropped early.
          About YH so right! The comedy is bad and the serious part doesn’t fit, but I’ll try again!

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            I liked Switch and JGS was awesome. Plot got a bit silly but it didn’t take itself to seriously

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    I don’t follow this drama but few days ago I jumped straight to recent ep where there’s a scene he’s being all emotional on judge’s seat, stopped the video because it started to get cringe-y and I was like oh, okay, so this is what they meant by over-acting. Why he did that though?

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    The overacting was my main complaint about this show initially. At the urging of other fellow Beanies to stick with the show, I have and things have seemed to settle down a bit more.

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I love time traveling stories and I’ve started Familiar Wife, after 3 eps I’m a bit confused about how the husband travels? Can anyone explain? I hope it’s not all just a dream.

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    The only details I understand are that he used the 2006 coins from the unkempt man who was on the subway.

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Does anyone have some recommendations for other shows like Secret, Mask and Time? I’ve already watched Money Flower and Whisper. No weekend if it’s a too long show. I’m in a melo mood I guess.

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    Have you watched ‘a love to kill’? A perfect melodrama I think. It has got rain oppa and shin min-a.

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    Innocent man? That is if you haven’t watched it..

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    Did you like Money flower?

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      Yes, it was good, the cast was great. The last eps maybe not as good as the rest but still a solid melo if it was a melo. Not sure about what genre it belongs.

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Some thoughts on AYHT 29-30

I still like this show very much but now I think it’s safe to say they can give it a good resolution with just 18 eps because so much of the gray characters and their conflicts has been turned into a good x evil battle.

I am still pleasantly surprised by the fact that despite their interest in selling the romance the story doesn’t stop asking the tricky questions about the robot. Last week there were so many moments I felt she should be waking up to the fact he is robot, sorry, my understanding is that she loves him with the unsconscious idea that he is almost like a person. That moment he plays the piano like a machine, learning in minutes, not even feeling the music, he goes to a movie but has no interest in the story and can’t feel sad about the story, I thought she would have some doubts but guess not. Besides it’s almost as if the writing showed us him behaving like a machine but the pd took it as ordinary romantic scenes, which often happens in this drama.

This week they took these questions even further because not only his brain is not his possession, he doesn’t have free will. Even if manual mode is erased doesn’t mean anything, somebody can have access to his memory at any time.

Crazy OriShin became a villain! It would be fine if he was just lashing out at his mom, YJ and Grandpa but when he hurts weaker people, he is mean for no reason to a kid or becomes obssessed with SB just because she likes the robot, he steps over the line to plain cruelty.

I’m so bored with Grandpa I wished Shin had pushed him. Sorry. He is a robot anyway, he can’t feel guilt. Or can he? Besides, it would have been poetic justice, to be killed by the machine he liked better than his family.

A silly detail but still, RoRa is so smart, that watch is great for dramatic purposes but she would really never put his battery in such an easy place.

Also, I’m guessing people must have liked it but I found that ending of 30 super cheesy, how could he overide manual mode? Please don’t tell it’s the power of love show! If he had some kind of rule against hurting humans in a bad way this should have kicked him with grampa, I’m thinking they should say something like he is uncapable of really hurting his Priority Human even in manual mode. It’s not a perfect explanation but it’s the best I could come up so far. If anyone has any others before next please share! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    Asimov’s 3 Laws of Robotics?

    I’m not watching this show so I don’t know if this applies, just been following comments and fan wall posts.

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      If he couldn’t harm humans he couldn’t have attacked SB or the granfather.

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    Thank you for this. Some really interesting (& great) points!! Points which I honestly try very hard not to think about lest it gets in the way of my viewing pleasure, lol.

    I do think the love between human and robot is at times an odd equation, but when looking at the universality of the themes show is looking to explore, then the love is no longer bound by the impossible, rather itโ€™s about the existing intricacies which surround human emotions and how it evolves (to varying degrees) in all aspects of life, no matter the relationship. So-bongโ€™s love for shinrobot feels very human and gives it a believable and almost measurable quality. But thatโ€™s not to say shin-robotโ€™s love is any less. It perhaps doesnโ€™t channel itself like human emotions do, but the essence is still very much the same. He cares, protects, offers comfort all within the realms of whatโ€™s possible for him. And that for me is the sole reason for wanting to root for them.

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      I understand, I’m still not sold that he has true emotions because the story hasn’t shown me that much but her love is very believable.

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    The other explanation for overriding the manual mode could of course be that RoboShin had some help? The scene never switched back to DogShin, and stayed on the rooftop. But what if someone interfered when they realised DogShin wasn’t going to stop until So Bong was dead?

    The first five minutes of ep 16 will prob. prove me totally wrong lol

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      Right, this could explain it but I doubt they will pass up the more romantic explanation of him being able to take control. This show sometimes has good surprises though!

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    I find it entirely plausible that a learning AI, who has been attempting to thwart a device, would find a way around a hurriedly created code for a manual mode. And that the trigger for the switch would be the tears (note: Grandpa had none) that was its first and strongest rule. Then the priority human rule would have come out and the codes battling each other would have given it the loophole. Just a guess though. AI is well beyond my reality capabilities.
    I do find it intriguing how SoBong never really forgets that he is a robot and likes him for what he is anyway. How is that different from someone who falls for a person, with say ALS? Or a seizure disorder? It does bring up questions of personhood, but loving someone in spite of their shortfalls is pretty powerful stuff.

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      I completely agree about So Bong’s love! She doesn’t see him for anything that he isn’t – or wants what he cannot give – and that’s what’s so amazing about her.

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      I had not thought that hugging rule might come in handy here, thanks for another explanation. ๐Ÿ™‚

      About SB not forgetting he is a robot I agree but like I said I just have a feeling she believes he has a personality, she has said herself that he is his own person. The show itself however has not yet convinced me he has one. A person with any kind of mental problem is still a person, has a past, has an identity. I’m never sure with Shin3 how much of his behavior comes from a program, from the nicest things he does to the worst, he can’t really take all the responsabillity. He’s able to make logical choices but where are his unique personality traits?

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        To play devil’s advocate: I think that’s where the learning AI comes in. If learning AI can write its own programming (and he has), then isn’t his personality stemming from the programming choices he is making?
        I could also argue that we are all shaped by “programming” by our parents/village from an early age, and it isn’t until we are older that we start to choose which of the programs we keep and which we follow.
        It’s a very interesting dilemma that the writer has presented, because it can be terrifying, and it’s something really close technologically speaking. It also really brings into question what really makes us human, because our DNA could be seen as a program of sorts.

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          I think it’s not very easy to explain but one more reason that leads me to believe he isn’t “his own person” is something we already knew and he keeps saying it. He has no ambition, which I guess also means he has no desire, for anything. Isn’t this at the very core of being human? From food to having purpose we want something, big or small, always. He doesn’t. Except when it’s convenient to make him miss his mom or SB, which is why this seems more like the result of a program than Shin3 actually having feelings.

          I don’t quite understand why the fact that he is capable of evolving would necessarily give him the capacity or the reason to create something like a personality. Did he make any illogical choices like we so commonly do? Did he become contradictory like we do sometimes? If he did I would start believing he has some true emotions.

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