Beanie level: Chaebol’s poor doppelganger

Ok, did I crack the secret to upgrading in DB? Everytime I have had a sudden spree of leaving comments around the site I have upgraded. And it has not even been a TON, just having relatively more beanie interactions in a short period of time.

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Drama-marathon update, and some thoughts.

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    I have finished Hwayugi and I LOVED the ending.
    I should make it clear though that had the penultimate episode been the ending I would have hated it. Not because of what happened but because everything was poorly executed. We weren’t told HOW SM was supposed to kill the dragon alone, this especially ruined the tension of that scene for me because I didn’t understand what was supposed to happen.
    And when OG came it was so natural and in line with what had happened every time until then that it completely deprived the scene of any feeling of sacrifice.

    THEN the last episode happened, to drive in the point that these are immortals. These poeple don’t play by the rules of our world.
    When he gave her his eye and said now I will be able to find you I laughed out loud. It was so typical of him. Even MW didn’t find it impossible when he heard about it. He thought it typical of him too!

    I finished the drama feeling exhilirated and satisfied. And that is a keeper in my book.

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    My thoughts on the Hong sisters.
    I have been a fan of their dramas for over a decade now, and have watched and rewatched most of them many many times.
    I have to say this, that although I LOVE watching their dramas I nearly never like neither the characters nor the storylines. But they still manage to keep me pinned in front of the screen.

    The only drama of theirs that I love thoroughly including the characters and the storyline is My Girlfriend is a Gumiho. And I’m gonna be completely honest and say that LSG and SMA might have everything to do with that.

    I have watched Delightful Girl Chun Hyang maybe 50 times and still the only character that I love is Ji-hyuk who was just a friend and a side-character. I LOVE My Girl and Best Love TO PIECES but the only characters that I love in one is the male lead and in the other the two managers. I don’t like anything in Master’s Sun, You are Beautiful, or Fantasy Couple. But I have STILL rewatched them all maybe fifty times.

    That is why I never expect to love their characters or the storylines. Their genius is in their wit, their dialogues, their social commentary, their one-liners, their knot-making (seriously! Everything is related, and is designed to pull the knot a little bit tighter!)
    I LOVE how their mind works. I don’t need to like the story to laugh out loud at it. They are girls after my own heart.

    I laughed with Hwayugi so much that my face and my stomache hurt, and I loved more than 2 of its characters. That is much more than enough for me, and I’m happy.

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    My final thoughts are on LSG.
    I don’t know what acting classes he has taken during military service but can he sign up 90 percent of the younger actors for it??
    I mean, I have always loved him a LOT, but I have been the first to admit that his line delivery and his timing aren’t perfect. I usually tried to close my eyes on it and just enjoy him.
    But in Hwayugi his line delivery was PERFECT! I can even say he has gotten quite on par with CSW who in my mind is a master in timing and delivery.

    So again, I enjoyed Hwayugi much much more than I had expected. And if any beanie has gotten this far in my fangirly rambling I should say thank you for reading 🙂

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      LSG is my ultimate bias. So yes, I agree! *heart emoticon* The post military LSG is the best! *hearts*

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Please help out a beanie. I’m watching 1% of anything v.2, and I do not understand at all! I’ve checked the recaps too but I guess I’m too dense… IS marrying Jae-In a condition in the will or isn’t it? I can’t understand what these people are arguing about! If it is not, and Da-hyun is the heiress no matter what, and Jae-in and his lawyer friend lied to her about having to marry him, then what is that six-months-dating deal with the grandpa supposed to mean? On the other hand, if it has been a condition from the beginning then why is Tae-ha considered a contender, and why did they talk about her being surrounded with gold-digger suitors and grandpa not caring who she marrys? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND! And when I don’t understand I can’t root for anybody….

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    If I remember correctly, the will states that either of the cousins need to marry DH to become the heir. Initially JI refused saying that he’s not interested his grandpa’s wealth. But his lawyer friend convinced him saying that his dad’s mall is also included in the property. So JI goes to DH with the proposal and she understandably refuses. When JI meets grandpa, he says that he can’t marry her. Then grandpa says if he won’t marry her, TH will and he doesn’t care who marries DH. JI got the first chance because he’s the older one. Then JI agrees to date her seriously for 6 months and grandpa agrees. He goes to DH with the renewed will, but omits the fact that TH is a contender too. They agree to date each other, with the agreement that he’ll get the property without marrying her and he’ll fulfill whatever conditions she has, like proper facilities for her school and helping to launch her favourite idol. Hope this clears your confusion.

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      Well, unfortunately no. Then what happens if DH doesn’t marry either of them? JI tells her she will become a miserable heiress with men chasing her and lots of rich people problems. So SHE doesn’t need to marry one of them to get the money, she will get it no matter what. Then why should she go about all the deal-making and dating? Why should she care if he gets any money or not? She says your grandfather gave me his money and gave you as a free sample…. No, I still don’t understand the clear conditions of the will.

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        Ok LOL! didn’t think about it so much. I think she doesn’t need to marry either of them, that’s true, but one of them needs to marry her if they want the property. But I think she tells JI that she doesn’t want all the money and all the hassle that comes with it. So I guess he tells her that if she dates him, he’ll remove the clause of her inheriting the property. Sounds stupid I know, I mean who wouldn’t want all that money. But she’s a simple girl and doesn’t need all that. I’m sorry I don’t remember more clearly. Anyway the story stops focusing on the will and more on their relationship. It just became a plot device for them to get together so probably that’s why I don’t remember clearly.

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          LOL yeah I think I should stop thinking about it and focus on the relationship too. The first two episodes were all arguing about the will and it got me badly confused. Third episode dating started and I guess I can stop thinking now 😁😁

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            Yes stop thinking about the will and enjoy. The trajectory of this couple is satisfactory compared to many others.

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        The original agreement if I remember correctly. She inherits no matter what. The cousins inherit only if they seriously date/marry her.

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    Lol, this is giving me a good laugh. I watched the original (which had way more forced machinations to give them a reason to date) so the remake seemed almost obvious in comparison. But when I think about it, you are right, she doesn’t seem to have too much reason to go along with the plan. But my understanding was this:
    Grandpa named her heir (because he wanted her in the family, and felt she could handle the money if it did go just to her).
    His ‘natural heirs’ who were expecting the money could still get it if they could woo her. (kinda grandpa trusting that Jae-in could choose the better man)
    Da-hyun felt that it was wrong to make a claim on the inheritance at all, because there were already family members to succeed grandpa.
    But, grandpa had already drawn up complicated paperwork that left all his assets to her. Da-hyun did not have an easy way to cancel this paperwork, or much legal know-how, so she tried to make a deal with grandpa.
    Grandpa offered marriage to his grandsons as the easy out because then the inheritance is shared with the man she marries.
    Da-hyun turned down marrying a stranger just to avoid a weird legal battle, and asked for a more reasonable deal.
    Grandpa offered 6-months dating one of the guys, and she accepted this. Why she decided this was okay, I don’t know, but it gives the leads a reason to date, so it is determined as 100% mandatory by the drama.

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      Hahaha thank you for elaborating. And you are right. Ultimately what really matters is the dramaland reason to date not the logical one! Lol

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Watching Romantic Dr Kim. Completely underwhelmed. I was looking forward to it, so I’m feeling rather regretful.

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    I don’t know which epi you are, but story got better when they are at Doldam Hospital.

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      Ep 13. It was much better in the beginning. I loved the stories of the ambitious and prideful young doctor trying to survive in a rural hospital, the Sabu that everyone looked up to, Dr Yoon’s problems, and all the day to day patients and accidents. These were more than enough conflict for a drama in my opinion.

      Then that old man started the surgery game and the baddies moved in and suddenly Dr Yoon is a side character, Dr Kang is one day a good doctor the next day is considering everything the baddies tell him, and I don’t get the use of Dr Do junior at all. Now there is a huge excitement about WHO will be on the surgery team and I’m like excuse me, how many heart surgeons DO you have anyway?? Why is this even supposed to be an exciting question!

      Sorry, I didn’t mean this to turn into a rant but it is really going downhill. I don’t drop dramas easily so I am sticking with it but feeling very salty.

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I was reading the post about The Great Seducer and the step-siblings thing reminded me of Sassy Go Go. Now THAT was one of the strangest endings ever. I still can’t undesrtand it at all.

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    You mean step-siblings turned lovers?

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      Well, it was so strange that I cannot even say what turned into what. They were highschool kids so I guess you can’t outright call them lovers but they were the main OTP and had a loveline. And their parents had a loveline too. And the ending scene they were all sitting around a table eating dinner… What… I just… can’t… understand what is that supposed to mean…

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        Ah I see. I wasn’t that shocked because I remember seeing it in another Taiwanese drama, Devil Beside You. SGG played it pretty well. But in a way, that plot device was quite rare to see which I get why you found it weird

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          I wasn’t shocked either because it is not a taboo in all cultures. But I knew it is in Korea and I kept waiting for them to somehow resolve it but was like that’s it?? The end?? What was that?

          But this proves what a good drama can do to you. I still rewatch it from time to time though I know there is basically no satisfying ending to my ship.

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Started Jugglers. Watching only for Daniel Choi.

I can’t understand the secretary at all. At first she was shown as this wonderfully efficient magician of a secretary who could understand the smallest hints. The moment she switched bosses she became a bumbling unprofessional novice who couldn’t even perform the simplest orders.

I pity her poor boss who is being justified in his paranoia of secretaries at least twice every episode!

But still, it is Daniel Choi, and I never say no to Daniel Choi!

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    Daniel Choi is a white milk chocolate bar that no one can say no to.
    BUT rest of the drama i was too dissatisfied still watched just for my chocolate *drooling*

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      OH! So I’m not alone in being dissatisfied! I had seen so many posts loving Jugglers that I truly thought I’m being too nit-picky and harsh!

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        no you are not.
        it started well and i liked it. but along the way it became the usual cliche story of Damsel In Distress and her Knight In Shining Armor. so that might be the reason you are also not liking it enough

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          I don’t mind cliches that much. If she had been a new secretary from the beginning I wouldn’t have minded.

          It is this difference between the way dramas introduce the character in the beginning and then they change her that confuses and dissatisfies the viewer. At least viewers like me.

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I’m sorry to report that I didn’t like the meteor shower scene in INAR at all. It was just too neat and unemotional and COLD. With MK sitting there with crossed legs prompting Jia for more and she repeating the events mechanically. The consequent confession and kiss felt completely forced to me. Especially after the FANTASTIC monologue that MK had had previously, and all the well-done angst, this scene was totally anticlimatic.

And WHY do they need to shoot such scenes in such uncomfortable weathers and clothes!? The scene could easily have happened in MK’s house especially as he 2had called her, she could have just run to him. Not go to a freezing location and sit and chat like old friends catching up, and then BAM cry, confess, kiss, happy!

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    I think that was the point though: One calling out the other to a place that they had promised each other previously that they would someday go to and meet (especially the ties that a meteor shower has with Min Kyu’s parents: they both went to a meteor shower together, MK’s dad had a necklace made out of remains of a meteor and used said necklace to propose to MK’s mother… the significance of a meteor necklace is “I’m giving a piece of myself to you”), and it’s made all the more precious that Min Kyu did the calling out (by lighting the lamp) since he’s still supposedly in a state of anger, but since he’s the one doing the calling, it goes to show that he’s willing to listen, to give a chance, even after he feels betrayed. He chose to do something that’s very hard for him to do considering his childhood experiences–being betrayed by his family friends, best friend, and by an ahjusshi he thought would take him in and fill the shoes of a father figure for him–all which were basically the reasons why he developed his psychosomatic human allergy.
    To quote the real Aji-3 robot, beginning of episode 27: “I need to go to Mount Hwangmae. He [Min Kyu] said he would take me there when the meteor shower comes./ Monami, my friend.”

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      I can understand the logic and reasoning of what you are saying. But it was not executed as well as some other very good scenes in the drama.

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Still watching INAR. This drama is soooo cheesy that I cringe a lot! But I shout with laughter a lot too. And it feels so fresh and happy.

I love when there are many veteran actors in a drama. The way they can play off of each other, read between the lines of the script, and reflect a director’s hand is never ever the same as the relatively newer ones.
That is one of the main reasons I loved JI a LOT because the veterans were many and fantastic.
Two Cops had this too. Actors completely comfortable in their roles and with each other.
In INAR the scenes that have both Yoo Seung Ho and Uhm Ki Joon look sooo comfortable and effortless that I miss them the moment the scene ends. They can pull off the cheesiest lines and still look like a prince in his kingdom!

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    glad that you are enjoying it…

    i wanted to watch to this drama so badly but couldn’t finish and dropped after 4 epi…..as it was way tooooo cheesy to handle for my liking and i really doubt i’d ever pick it up again.

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      I have to confess I fast forward many many cheesy lines! I can’t watch them at all! But the cheesyness lessens after a few eps. Or I got used to it 😄 I don’t know. Apart from that, and the incredible over-sharings of YSH’s character, I’m loving the drama.

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        Trust me when I say that once the angst arrives (and you bet that there’s still angst in a rom-com, because this is a K-drama… angst is a MUST) you’ll be wishing and praying that you had more cheese and cringe-y moments

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          I’m glad to hear that. I love angst-filled rom-coms. They are something the Koreans do exceptionally well.

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            You’re right!! In recent years, angst in K-dramas have been done and handled pretty well, compared to the angst (which turned into makjang) that was given to us and handled in dramas 10-15 years ago, even 20 years ago XD

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Watched Legend of the Blue Sea which was basically one big pretty plothole. But it didn’t grate on any nerves so I just breezed through it. It was good for a detox betwixt some very good dramas to avoid comparison and/or expectations.

Started I’m Not a Robot and it is SUCH a breath of fresh air! Yoo Seung Ho and Uhm Ki Joon have always been on my favorites list, and both are excellent here as ever! Love Chae Soo Bin too.

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    I always support more people watching INAR 😍💖

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    Great description for Legend of the Blue Sea. I don’t know how I finished it.

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      For me it was completely harmless and good for a detox. But I don’t know how people finished it while live-watching.

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    I dropped LOTBS , I am just glad I saw Jo Jeong Suk cameo 🙂

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      And I had come immediately from watching Two Cops and Jealousy Incarnate. I knew he had a cameo but I wasn’t ready for such an extended one. It was so strange seeing him completely different from both (all three!) previous roles.

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    It’s actually such a tragedy that “I’m Not a Robot” received such little love domestically, but PRAISE THE HEAVENS that it is so, so, SO loved internationally, especially here on Dramabeans 💖

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HA! LOTBS ep 12, Park Hae Soo tells Lee Min Ho that he likes to spend some time in prison.

Dramagods: Wish granted.

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So I ended up intense-binge-watching Two Cops and I loved it. I’ll continue in the comment to avoid giving spoilers.

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    I loved the characters, the fantastic chemistry not only between the two male leads but between all of the police team. The character of Ji-an was rather a side character but i was ok with it. It was a very well-done male-centric drama to me.

    Only very few episodes in the three-third part of the drama lagged. I loved everything in the first half and I especially loved the last few episodes and the conclusion to the mistery. I loved that they did it as a whole team in the end, I loved how they used the uptight prosecutor as a red herring and I fell for it everytime he seemed to change his mind or submit to his father. I loved how he stayed true and honest. The unveiling of the real killer was great too! I knew she would somehow prove important but I never thought of her being the killer. The last time she attacked Dong-tak in the alley it crossed my mind that the killer moves like a woman but I didn’t really think about it. The show did a good job of showing that the head prosecutor always had the excuse of shielding his son, while in fact everything happened because of his greed.

    I love how the cases were not only cases but subtle hints at how some events had probably happpened in the past. Like the case of the chaebol’s accident showing how some of the many corrupt policemen might have turned this way without having actually been corrupt or even ambitious in the first place.

    The chemistry between DT and SCh was off the chart. And it was hilarious that most of their interactions could be double-entendre. I loved how when they found out that DT was one of the reasons of the accident they were so short on time that they didn’t have the time to reflect amd lament. They simply had to act together to succeed.

    I wish the final episode was a bit more clear on why Su-chan pretended to have amnesia. I understood in a couple minutes that he probably wanted to make a clean break with both girls and his past. But it was confusing and rather anticlimatic immediately after the heart-breaking cardiac arrest scene. But that is quite a minor complaint in comparison with the whole drama which I loved!

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    @kdramaswimmer THANK YOU for encouraging me! I wanted so much to watch it but I was rather scared! I LOVED it!

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      your most welcome chingu..i knew it you gonna love it as much as i did.
      SC and DT was like so perfect as partners and ur analysis is bang on. well written and well analyzed..
      i too had hint that the killer has to be a girl, cause of movements and physique. and also always found that deaf girl as waitress lil too awkward to consider it mere a side character.

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I am watching 2 Cops and loving every moment of it! My only complaint is why should JJS have the same ringtone as he had in JI 😭 It makes me jump and look for Pyo Na-ri every time!

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    I skimmed through the recap comments and saw that most people were irritated by Ji-an forcing herself into everything and hindering investigations and hiding evidence… The only thing I can say is that either these commenters have not seen Pinocchio (which I have seen 4 times so I’m probably immune by now), or… they don’t like Hyeri 😁

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      welcome to the 2 Cops fangirl club dear chingu. And am so so happy that you are loving it and enjoying it thoroughly.
      on which episode you are right now ?
      I agree Pinocchio is surely a good example to let people understand its A Kdrama…

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        Thanks for the welcome! I’m at episode 10 aka 5 right now. Today was a great day for bingeing, family mostly left me to myself 😁

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          woww cool you are going at good speed. keep it up.
          i am planning to rewatch it… m missing that Background score everytime SC enters DT body and how well JJS enacted that part…..so much fun.

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            I keep fighting with myself between reaching for the next ep or holding off so I don’t finish it too quickly. But I have very low resistance!

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It’s official! The oscar for the best PPL ever goes to LG in School2013! It’s always hovering in the background but it’s so elusive and fleeting that I can’t capture even one shot of it!

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The ultimate kdrama question: Is it fate or coincidence that I reach for School2013 after finishing Go Back Couple and while waiting for Jugglers to download??

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    Not to mention I watched While You Were Sleeping before GBC 😂

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    its Destiny… thats what we say in Kdrama.
    it happened with me too…

    i watched Temperature of love for KJW then started Bad Guy just for him but by epi2 i fell for Kim Nam Gil. Which made me watch LUTYN, the drama which i dropped 3 times without even finishing first episode. and now i am head over heels for this man (my db wall is a proof).

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      LUTYN was so so SO good! I loved it so much. I loved Kim Ah Joong before and started it for her, but it was my first time watching Kim Nam Gil and I fell for him like you 😁😁

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        ahhh *hugs* and same pinch.
        he is a gem of an actor… his acting at last epi while piercing needle in his heart was beyond imagination. i was crying and feeling so much intensity in my heart by seeing him. i cant forget his eyes in that scene.
        and his smile… cheeky cute smile in whole drama.

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Hi beanies. Is there any place on the net where I can see a complete list of dramas in any specific year? Like the complete list of 2017 dramas, regardless of broadcating channel…

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After the dispute about Lee Jong Suk’s nose and jaw, do I dare mention Yeon Woo Jin’s eyelids?! I like him a lot but his dissimilar eyes and eyelids are maddeningly distracting!

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    That’s what make him extra attractive though. At least for me.

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    LOL I do agree. It’s quite noticable.
    Also, where is this dispute about LJS’s nose and jaw? I remember commenting on a thread recently, but it wasn’t a dispute. Hahaha I’m curious.

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      LOL There were a few fanwall posts a few days ago, and a few comments on WYWS recaps. 😁 Nothing serious, thank god!

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    He doesn’t ring my bell, I think his face is too babyish to appeal to me. I loved him in “Marriage Not Dating”, though, he was a good match for Han Groo.

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      He was great in MND. I loved him there too. Both of them were great actually and loved them both.

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    I watched My Shy Boss and Seven Day Queen last year and didn’t notice his eye thing until Seven Day Queen and only cause one eye looked def bigger than the other when he was wearing the sageuk hats…I find him extremely attractive cause of his charisma…and uhh also his kissing skills lol

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I have recommended Waiting for Romance a few times on this site. With the current Choi Daniel love going around recently I saw it fit to recommend it again 😁

It’s a two eps mini-drama, amd I love it

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There was a time when if I didn’t check Dramabeans for one day I would miss at least 3 posts. Sometimes much more. Some of them were only one paragraphe long but I loved reading them so much that I even remember some of them after 5+ years. There was a time when drama and casting news were updated regularly until the premiere day. There was a time when DB had news of celebrity deaths even if they weren’t tragic, and due to old age. There was a time when DB had news of celebrity dating and marriages even if the other party was a non-celebrity. There was a time when there were lovely posts on Korean traditions and expressions. There was a time we got commentaries on meta moments or references in dramas. There were swoony fan-girly posts on army news, interviews, inside jokes, drama reviews, and lots more.

Nowadays my only source of any news, from casting news to awards to deaths to anything I would like to know about is the fan wall which means getting spoilered bigtime on every drama that is airing right now.

I know life goes on and change happens but I miss the old DB SO MUCH. Lately I have been unable to connect with the dramas as much as before because I’m feeling completely out of the loop. My only source of drama deconstruction has always been only DB. And now it is nearly just a forum with a few recap posts.

Thank you JB and GF and all the rest of the staff for a decade of lovely posts. I loved it all and I miss it all. I hope life so happens that we can have at least some of it back. Be well.

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    Oh my thoughts exactly! Kolorful Palette was one of my faves too. Thanks Midnight, for expressing your thoughts so that I know I’m not the only one who thinks this way. I really enjoy the fan wall but DB, GF and staff are all such clever and talented writers and sometimes you just want to hear it and learn it from them, and maybe get a different perspective of a story too.

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      Yes, the inside insight we get from their writings can not be compensated by anything.

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    I miss the year-end review, the post-award-show recap and everything. They seemed to write less than before. I love that we can see them in a video but I still miss their writing T_T

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      this is my exact sentiments. i too miss year end reviews the most.

      not that i dont like fan wall db but there are just few sections that i used to wait for months or years.

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        Fan wall is nice but when I watch a drama after everybody else I used to go and read the comments. Now most of the rave and rants are lost deep in the fan wall.

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    I miss the abundance of recaps and wondering where all the minion recappers are…

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      I’m missing Heads and Gummi. I haven’t see them post anything since last year. 🙁

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    i was never active on DB that much to miss anything significantly but yes i used to read posts abt the dramas/actors i follow rigorously. only posts i used to wait were year end reviews and drama award night coverage (with all the shiny images of actors/actresses in their stylish attires).
    i am more active on DB now cause of Fan Wall theme as i cab share my love for kdrama as much i want which i can show anywhere else.

    but yes i can feel you completely as how you miss the Old DB which was all about the Korean Drama from the eyes if GF and JB while now it has perspectives from a lot more people…. not bad (per me) but yes different than before.

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Hi Beanies!

Can anyone recommend Korean movies similar to Midnight Runners, lightly comedic and full of heart? I love romance too but I rather fear too many r-rated scenes.

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    The Thieves
    Speedy Scandal
    Like For Likes
    My Little Bride
    Miss Granny
    A Hard Day – more Black comedy, but reaaaaally good.

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    I love Familyhood with Kim Hye Soo – that one’s funny and full of heart

    Also Confidential Assignment with Hyun Bin, though it’s a lot more action-y than comedic

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In the absence of the Name That Drama posts I wrote a lenghty post describing a scene from a drama that I didn’t remember, and while I was writing suddenly Lee Bo-young’s face came into my mind and I remembered the drama I was asking about is I Hear Your Voice! So… problem solved! 😄

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