Beanie level: Jang Geu-rae

On HPL10: I did think that the ending scene was just a bit too dramatic, but it made sense: this entire series is about Deok Mi keeping her fangirl life a secret, and it was all possibly about to come crashing down just as she started dating. I don’t think Ryan should’ve necessarily confronted the two at that moment since it clearly shows his jealousy and distrust. I thought their previous conversation where he brought up Eun Gi’s feelings was enough, and that he could trust her to figure things out. To give Ryan credit, he eventually got out of his own anger to figure out what she was hiding. Although sidenote, their situation kind of mirrors his and Da In’s relationship, although I’m pretty sure he knows that she likes him.

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    I don’t think he crossed a line. He didn’t yell when he saw them, he only asked to talk to her. I think he had a right to ask to speak with her at least, and she should have been the one to tell him that she didn’t want to talk right now. It’s because it was only Eun Gi telling him, I can understand why he was more persistent. If she had told him to leave then he should have respected that.

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      Agreed. If I were Ryan I think I’d be having second thoughts about her at this point, not because of Eun Gi, but because she hid behind him like a child.

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        This is how I feel. He has every right to be mad and doubt their relationship.

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      Totally agree. She should have stopped hiding the second Eun Gi said he liked her.

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    I actually had the opposite read of the ending. I saw the way Ryan acted as more disappointment that Deok-mi didn’t feel comfortable revealing that part of herself to him, so he had to reveal that he already knew and didn’t care. I think also, it was the only way that his knowing could have come out without it being a massive lie that carried on too long. I agree, there was some jealousy – but who wouldn’t be jealous if their significant other spent the night with someone who clearly liked them? I think he trusted her and her feelings, but he was disappointed that she didn’t trust him back enough to reveal this important part of herself. It’s not so much jealousy about the fact that they were together as much as the fact that she felt ashamed of who she was.

    I was more mad at Eun-gi last week for telling Deok-mi that no one would want to be with her if they discovered she was a fangirl. That was a horribly manipulative thing to do to her. I think this moment was important because it showed Deok-mi that there was someone who knew all those sides of her and didn’t care. I think she needed to see the jealousy to realize that Ryan really does like even as a fangirl.

    But you’re right, this completely mirrors his situation with Da-in and I want to see how that plays out, especially re: his painting block.

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      This was my read of the scene as well. He had made it clear that he trusted her, but he still has the right to try and discuss things with her if he’s upset and can’t have her hiding behind her childhood friend in moments like that. Even if he had enjoyed respecting her choice not to tell him yet, if she’s so anxious about his reaction that she’s willing to go that far to keep it from him, it makes sense that he would find it more urgent to resolve things.

      It was a hard scene to watch, especially with Eun-gi, who (even though he was protecting her secret) still feels like he enjoys knowing more about her than anyone else too much to not turn any scene with Ryan into seeming like a tug of war at this point. Ryan, on the other hand, has always been adamant about letting Deok-mi decide things for herself, but he is still going to urge her to be honest with him now that they’re in relationship.

      I do think the scene could have been better executed, since it was a bit awkward to have Deok-mi not speaking for that long. Either I wanted the scene to be a bit shorter/to the point or would have preferred Deok-mi at least trying to explain her reasons for not showing herself. I’ll just take it as her being in shock though, after all one of main points of the show is her hiding her fangirl identity. And now that everything’s out in the open, I’m too excited for the aftermath to dwell on it.

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        bigger question..

        does she think everyone wearing black is a fan girl.. why did she hide in the 1st place

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          Because he’s seen her fangirl getup before (at the airport) so he could recognize her as the one who fell on him.

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            black clothes? is that fangirl the only one who wears it? unless she is wearing mask.. why would he even relate that

            it was a fairly illogical move on girl’s part to hide in the first place

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            @alasecond it’s not that he actually recognize her per se l, but mostly that she’s going to instinctually hide this part, this black clad identity of hers, from him. Logically, yes, he shouldn’t recognize her like this. But she’s not thinking logically in the moment – she’s thinking that he’ll look down on her for her fangirling so she wants to hide every aspect of that from him, even the getup.

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      Great read of the situation! I think you’re right about the disappointment. We see him use the secret knowledge to playfully tease or to get closer to her, but the moment he sees that it’s causing her distress he reveals that he knows.

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        Exactly. I actually get more into this in my response to Blue (mayhemf) below. I think that a large part of this whole miscommunication was that Eun-gi manipulated the situation for his benefit, completely ignoring Deok-mi’s feelings. I think Ryan was willing to wait however long Deok-mi needed to reveal herself, but his hand was forced because if he didn’t speak up in that moment, it wasn’t so much that Eun-gi “won”, so much as Deok-mi wouldn’t know that he likes her exactly as she is. It’s not posturing, it’s literally telling Deok-mi that she is perfect as is. That’s one thing Eun-gi doesn’t seem to get – that it’s not just about him. Her feelings matter too.

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    I think as a boyfriend – seeing the guy who you know likes your girlfriend making his way to her house in the middle of the night would raise some reaction. It would be weird if Ryan was perfectly fine with it. I would be jealous and apprehensive not of Deok Mi but of what EG possibly had up his sleeve. And yes – I would hightail it to her place to probe at the first decent hour. Especialy since her phone was turned off!!! Alarming.
    Then to see them Both come out – I do not blame Ryan if he felt all sorts of disappointment, pissed, apprehensive, suspicious – especially when DM then darted to hide behind EG!!!! Good thing Ryan has a head on his shoulders which is not merely decorative but is put to actual use!!! He figured out that she was hiding SNG and not DM from him.
    And I am super happy Ryan came right out and declared SM his girlfriend. And it good that DM heard from EG’s own lips that he liked her as a woman. Which grounds what Ryan was telling her the previous night.
    Super super stoked that Ryan out SNG and prefaced it with it’s alright.
    The look on EG’s face! Yup dude – there is a man out there who will love all sides of DM and who in fact aided and abetted the fangirl and finds that fangirl side of her cute!!

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      I love that Ryan will be able to show this to Deok-mi because the more I think about Eun-gi telling her no one will like her if they find out she’s a fangirl the madder I get. He was basically gaslighting her which is pretty low to do to someone you allegedly like. We clearly know that this isn’t a relationship killer: look at her best friend. Sure the relationship is a little rocky, but it’s clear that they care about one another. (I have more thoughts on this but not gonna get into it right now.)

      I think Ryan will be able to get her to healthy level of obsession while still allowing her to be herself. I love that both Si-an and Ryan see her passion and her good eye in her fangirl photos. Eun-gi may know about her fangirl side but he doesn’t see how it’s a core part if who she is and a means for her to express her passions. He doesn’t respect it the way Ryan does. Honestly, nothing Eun-gi has done so far has shown any respect to her.

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        Agree! Also I think that DM basically has a level head. She is good at what she does at work and fangirling is just a hobby/thing/part of her identity – call it what you will. I think the fact that when a romance comes her way and she is able to recognise real feelings and emotions and is proactive in seeking love and happiness makes her grounded. She was more focused on real issues – RYAN -(if you can’t smile at Si An – and he is front and centre in her presence – the something is terribly wrong).
        Maybe that’s why I am able to relate to DM (maybe not as passionate as she is) – healthy happily married woman with grown kids who still squeals at the screen when puppies/hot Oppas pop up on screen, while looked upon fondly by hubby who will join in kdrama watching when I tell him “you’ve got to watch this squeeeeeeeee!
        LOL!!

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      His reactions seemed legit to me. He was missing her that night but her phone was turned off. He cAme early in the morning to see her but alas those two come down. He is upset. Even more so because he has never been let inside her house while EunGi has stayed over. I don’t think he doubts her feelings just that he doesn’t feel he is important enough/trustworthy enough in her life.
      When she hid behind EG I was so upset with her. I can’t imagine what Ryan winks have felt. So DM was willing to jeopardize her relationship to keep her fangirling a secret.
      But kudos to Ryan to have figured out that she was hiding her alter image and not herself. He settled his anger and faces it head on. Love this guy.
      EG- I don’t really blame him here. Yes I can’t stand him. But DM gave him that power by standing behind him And not speaking for herself. EG felt that he was her protector and acted all mighty.
      I hope Ryan and DeokMi have a real conversation about this. Because DM – not acceptable.

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        I just think that the part that irks me the most is that Eun-gi basically set up the situation to play out this way. He made Daok-mi ashamed of her fangirl side, and then of course the second the opportunity to help her hide it comes up, he looks like her hero, when really he manufactured this situation to begin with. If he had never said anything, maybe Deok-mi could have had a real conversation about it with Ryan. Instead she’s hiding because she’s been manipulated into thinking no man will accept this.

        Basically I’m just super pissed at Eun-gi right now.

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          You are so right. That’s exactly it!

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          Fair enough.
          But am generally the take ownership for your own life/situations/feelings kinda person. So I still wish DeokMi sees her for who she is and evaluates what she did and see how it looks from Ryan’s POV.

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            I feel like Deok-mi will do that, but think about it this way: she’s caught off guard, she’s in flight mode. She probably knows her own worth, she’s shown us since episode one that she’s willing to stand up for herself and takes no sh-t from anyone. So hiding doesn’t surprise me. We all react instinctively when we’re caught off guard. I think that she would have eventually disclosed her fangirl status to Ryan, but now she can’t do it on her own terms, which I think is what Ryan was waiting for and why he never revealed that he knew. His hand was forced in this situation because Eun-gi was manipulating it to make himself look good.

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            I am with you. This is on Deok Mi.

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    I was mostly annoyed with Deok Mi. She doesn’t seem mature enough for Ryan. I’m sure we can find a more mature substitute somewhere…

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      are you looking for me?? 🙂
      *waves goodbye to beloved Fiancé before rushing to volunteer to be Ryan Gold’s Leading Lady*

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Has anyone else noticed that in these last few episodes, Chan seems to look more like Woo Jin? From the flashbacks in today’s episode, you can see how much longer his bangs have gotten, and he’s weari

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    –he’s wearing Woo Jin’s classic “button-up over tee look”. I feel like he stole this shirt from his uncle’s closet

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Timing is everything in this show. Min Ho realized his feelings too late, and Dr. Ye hasn\’t gotten over his past relationship to start another one, despite his obvious feelings. I still wouldn\’t rule him out, but like Min Ho he\’s going to have to start from square one. Timing also applies to Bo Young. If Min Ho confesses to her now, she\’d probably reject him. But the same goes for Dr. Ye. He could still turn it around, but he\’d have to do it quick because he may run out of time. But until this all blows over, Min Ho should keep up with being nice to Bo Young and being there for her. I don\’t think he\’s being selfish now at all; he\’s actually thinking about Bo Young\’s feelings for once.

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