Beanie level: Errand boy

So the email issue was resolved without me having to create a new account. Thanks to all the Beanies for their suggestions and thanks to the Dramabeans Staff!
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Question Beanies:

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    I would like to change the email address I use for this account. The old email I used is no longer valid. I had that email for years and it was associated with the cable company in my area. I moved a good while ago. When I tried to access my old email account, I could no longer do so. I couldn’t go through the process to change my password (I was logging in with the correct info, but was getting an error message, so I thought I’d try my luck by changing my password), but I needed to provide an account number, which for obvious reasons, I did not have. My problem is that I cannot change the email address on my Beanie accunt because I need to click on a link sent to my old email. Since I cannot access that email, I cannot make any changes. Does anyone know what I could do? Thanks!

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      See this would have been a good question for Mary, and she would have answered it right away. Maybe @db-staff will get back to you with an answer, but I think you might have to make a new account. 🙁

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        You’re right. I was trying to log out of this account, but the drop down menu was blocked by a message forcing me to subscribe to the Beanie Box updates. I could not log out at all, until I filled out my email information and clicked “subscribe.” I decided to access my old email to unsubscribe from the updates (since I was forced to accept them in the first place). That’s when I noticed that I could no longer access my old email. This upsets me. I will try sending my original query to the DB staff. Thanks for your suggestion. Is Mary no longer on this site? Sorry for being out of the loop.

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      You could send an email to db site admin for assistance at hello@dramabeans.com 😊

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      I had the same issue sometime ago and I contacted Dramabeans and they helped me to resolve it. Email them you would get sorted in no time!

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        Thanks! I wrote to the email other Beanies shared with me (hello@dramabeans.com). I hope they get back to me and help me solve this.

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I watched the first two episodes of Prison Playbook yesterday.

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    Yay!! Happy watching, it’s one of my favorite shows 🙂

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      Thank you! 🙂

      I liked the Answer Me series (especially ’88). I’m getting the same vibes for this drama.

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    I really enjoyed this drama 🙂 Happy watching

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      Thank you. I wanted to watch this when it first aired, but I remember the long lag time between the time each episode was uploaded and when it was subbed in English. I ended up never watching it that time. I’m glad that I finally took the plunge. 🙂

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So I finished watching Six Flying Dragons last night. I watched fifty episodes in about two weeks, give or take a few days. There were times when I felt overwhelmed. So much was happening and the show was so heavy. I almost felt like giving up at one point to give myself a mental break. If I was feeling stressed out, how about Jung Do-jeon, Lee Seong-gye and even Bang-won? With all the pressures they faced and the difficult decisions being placed before them, how did not one of them get a heart attack? There is a moment when Sambong clutches his chest and almost collapses. I felt those pressures vicariously. Although the thought to quit the show or at least put it on hold for a bit crossed my mind a few times, my nature would not allow me to do any such thing!

I was not as overwhelmed when watching the final two episodes. They were kind of a welcome break, oddly enough. I just sat back and watched.

The characters in this show were complex and made harsh decisions in a time of turmoil and instability. I will say, however, that I could not get behind Bang-won. I don’t think that I felt the desire to take his side. Much of what he did felt like excuses to justify his desire for power. I will say that he was a go-getter and made things easier for the others by doing the more difficult, dirty jobs. His was a mind so intelligent, his was a soul so passionate, that he could not be relegated to a life at home away from the great changes taking place. I agree that such a fate would have been cruel for someone like him. But I still couldn’t support the path he eventually chose.

Let me clarify that these are my opinions based on the drama, not actual history. And while the historical Taejong did horrible things, I understand that he also did a lot of good. And if it weren’t for him, there would be no Sejong the Great. History is complicated, and I don’t think it’s appropriate to judge the past through a modern lens and modern sensibilities.

Back to the show:

With regards to Jung Do-jeon, I could never hate his character. He definitely went through changes after Po-eun’s death. He had to take a harder stance. He could not just talk and try to change others with his words. What a conundrum! He wanted a government with checks and balances, where debate and thoughtful discussion—rather than an iron fist—would bring about true change. But to get there, he had to become the very thing that he was fighting against. He had to play dirty, play on the same terms as his enemy, to bring about his ideal world. This was a dangerous move indeed. From the perspective of those around him, how could they believe that he would truly step down after the all the elements needed to stabilize the new country and keep it functioning in perpetuity were in place? How could you trust that he would not want to remain in power?

–Side note–
I personally did not agree with some of his other reforms. I won’t mention them here for personal reasons, but I’ve read about enough modern examples in which similar ideas were implemented to no good effect. I’m against some of the things he fought for, but I’ll just accept that these ideas made sense for the times in which he lived. I won’t say any more about this here.
–End of Side note—

While I was more understanding of Sambong than Bang-won, the ones I truly felt for were the regular people stuck in the middle of this battle of giants. They are represented by characters like Boon-yi, Mu-hyeol, and Bang-ji, and the residents of Ban-chon. I truly felt for all of these people and generally wished that they would manage to make the best of their lives.

Closing thoughts:
Excellent drama with complicated characters.
Wasn’t too impressed with our secret organization Mu-myeong, but looking over the recap threads for this drama, many others felt similarly.
Not sure if I’ll ever re-watch this, but who knows?

Tree With Deep Roots:
While I like some of the references to Tree, I think that the final episode overdid things. I was reminded of how Answer Me ‘94 overdid it with the Answer Me ’97 cameos. A little would have gone a long way. It was a little corny and forced. Also, I am assuming that when grandma Boon-yi sees some of our cast from Tree teaching Hangul, it must be after the events of the final episode of Tree. Since Hangul is being taught in the open and everyone is smiling, that must be the case. But didn’t one of the guards refer to Cha-yeon—Jang-hyuk’s character—as if he were still alive? He said something to the extent of: “My friend Cha-yoon learned it in day and a half?” This was just based on the subs. I would have to go back and listen to whether or not he used the past tense (but I’m feeling lazy right now, lol). I also felt there were some other inconsistencies regarding the two shows, but that’s not important here.
Lastly, I enjoyed looking over the older comment threads for the recaps. The thoughts and inputs of my fellow Beanies were informative and witty.
Final shout out to Judy! LOL

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    This drama drained me good. I don’t watch period dramas; the little times I did was purely because of actors or that I was heavily influenced by recommendation. Six Flying Dragons was the latter for me. So I sat through the entire 50 episodes. The patriotism and characters get me everytime….. I loved my dragons 💘

    Yi Bang Won was an interesting watch for me. He was that antihero I loved to hate. I don’t agree with a lot of things he did, but he was the highlight of the show for me. His beginnings, his patriotism, his love for Boon Yi, his ambitions, his rise to power.

    And this song will forever hurt me good
    https://youtu.be/45dBRXKHAaQ

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      I love period dramas, but yes, this one really got to me.

      Yoo Ah-in’s Bang-won was rich indeed. But his darkness was too much.

      Did you live watch this?

      And thanks for the link to the song. It is lovely. I love the haunting piece with the pansori singer:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460yMRAI1lk

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        No I did not watch this live. I watched this after Yoo Ah In won the best actor award at Baeksang (and beat Choi Jin Woong where he was amazing in Signal). Everyone gave a nod to this award for his performance in Six Flying Dragons. I needed to see what everyone was gushing about! They said he was the male version of Lady Mishil from Queen Seon Deok. I cannot watch Queen Seon Deok although I’m really curious how people loved to hate Lady Mishil, but I tried Six Flying Dragons. And truly, he deserved that award. Such a great performance and so the rest of the dragons and other characters.

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    @Peridot You’re giving me the motivation I needed to go back to 6FD! I left it on hold months ago, and been meaning to pick it up again, but life got in the way

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    I never liked Bang Won either – as a kid he was already a mix of brave and scary. But I understood him to a certain extent, especially the part where he felt betrayed overhearing Sambong’s plan to not let the king’s family take part in politics. After being part of Sambong’s team and dreaming of the new country Joseon, that was a hard blow for Bang Won. I could see how he could never trust Sambong again after that and turned against him. I was also against some of Sambong’s policies actually.

    It was a heavy but entertaining watch. The main characters were interesting, but the secondary ones – the ones stuck in the middle of all the mess- had my heart: Bang-Ji (what happened to him show???), Musa Mooyul ❤️ and Cheok Sa Kwang, who appeared late in the show but was an absolute scene stealer for me.

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      Bang Ji…. *sobs* Ddang Sae. Uri Ddang Sae. The most pained dragon 😭😭

      I still hurt everytime a video of him shows up on my YT from time to time. Not helping if that video had Yeon Hee in it. Which is 98% of the time.

      Like this https://youtu.be/eT9Ur6PLrVA

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Plan on watching episode 35 of Six Flying Dragons tonight. I’m dreading what’s to eventually come. But I’m also looking forward to seeing how things unfold.

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Six Flying Dragons Episode 33:

So painful to see Sambong’s look of shock and hurt at Poeun’s betrayal of trust.

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So I happened to see the latest issue of Vogue magazine at my library today. Opening the first few pages, I saw an ad for Burberry. I looked at one of the models sporting a blond buzz cut and thought he looked a lot like Yoo Ah In. So, I searched online and verified that it was indeed him. Little did I know that he had been chosen as the Burberry brand ambassador in Korea. I don’t avidly follow entertainment news, and I know nothing about fashion. LOL

I’ve posted a copy of the image that I found online.

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    Yep! He’s been promoting it on his Instagram. He looks so good in that haircut.

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Lately, I’ve been in the mood to re-watch dramas. I started with Go Back Spouses. A few weeks ago, I finished Mr. Sunshine. What a visual gem filled with wonderful performances! Now, I am on Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People. This remains one of my favorite dramas.

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I just realize I\’ve been busy running errands for over a year now! My lot in the Beanie-verse hasn\’t changed yet.

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    The Beanie-verse moves in misterious ways, we’ll end up getting to that roof-top! Fighting!

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      That, it does. Thanks for the encouragement. We both can do it! After all, patience is a virtue.

      😉

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I am waiting to be able to watch My Country\’s finale, but I must admit that I lost any real liking for this show a while ago.
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    What was the issue?

    This show has been on my watchlist for a long time though it looks less and less likely that I’ll pick it up.

    I was hoping to read some good reviews in the finale.

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      I feel like the plot is dragging and the conflict between the two friends just feels tiring and unnecessary to me. I don’t really feel the romance and the female lead’s character doesn’t actually do anything despite her supposed reputation. I wish the storytelling would have been tighter. Plus, I am personally tired of people being skewered (as I like to call it) and yet somehow never dying. I think that this sometimes cheapens what is supposed to be a significant thing. I can’t really explain it too well without spoiling. But a similar thing happened at the conclusion of episode 14. I haven’t seen the last two episodes yet.

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Psychopath Diary Episode Two:

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Have the latest episodes of My Country not been subbed at this point?

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    Preempted in Korea by baseball, I think.

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      Thanx. I was trying to find information online. Does that mean that both episodes are affected?

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        Oops, I was thinking of Vagabond. Don’t ask me how I could confuse the two. 😱

        I’m also not seeing anything specific on MC. My apologies.

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    Raw versions showed up more or less on schedule. Maybe the subbers are busy watching baseball ???

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      Yes, I noticed the raw episodes.

      “Maybe the subbers are busy watching baseball ???”

      I guess that must be the case. 😉

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Is there something wrong with tonight\’s episode of Nokdu? It doesn\’t continue where the previous one ended. I\’m totally lost.

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    The previous episode ended with the King coming face to face with Nokdu.

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      It does. There may be an error with the video what you’re watching?

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        I guess so. May I ask where you’re watching it?

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          I’m watching this drama on a less than legal site called myasiantv. Also as misrabbit says, the first minute or so showed how the king came to be there in the first place

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            I tried myasiantv as well, but the episode did not continue wherethe previous one left off. I figured out, however, that the episode was uploaded backwards. So I played started from the middle of the video to the end, then went to the beginning. How come I see it differently on the same website you used? LOL

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            Whoa that’s so strange! 😂 Maybe they corrected it & I caught it later? I watched it around 4 hours ago.

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            As I was writing to you about my confusion, I was still watching the episode. I’m not sure if we were watching it concurrently. I refreshed multiple times and kept alternating between the websites I normally use. Although I eventually watched the episode (in a convoluted way, lol), I still feel like I missed certain things.

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            Whoa now that is so weird. I wonder how myasiantv does things lol

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      They did backtrack a little. The opening scene is where the king’s wounded officer told him about the widow’s village. That’s why he went there and met Nokdu.

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        The episode I watched started with Nokdu, Aengdu, and Dongju warming themselves by the fire. It did not backtrack to the King learning about the widow village. It turns out that the episode was in reverse order, so the end of the video was the beginning of the episode.

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    Don’t know why you are confused. Tonight’s episode started with how everyone ended where they were. Granted, the last couple of episodes have been a little confusing with all the threads they are weaving. But tonight’s episode (#13-14) wove many threads together into a coherent story.
    Where are you watching the show?

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      I was confused because the websites I was using were completely off. It had nothing to do with the plot threads. I figured out that the episode had been uploaded in reverse. I used sites like myasiantv and dramahood.

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        holy cow I have not encountered that before and I watch on daebekdrama when the subs aren’t done on viki. sorry for misunderstanding your confusion!

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          LOL. Weird, right? The problem was fixed by the following morning, at least on one of the websites. Maybe I’ll check out the site you use.

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Today’s work hairstyle: Dutch braid by yours truly, fishtail braid by Peridot’s omma.

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    Wow, such an ultra neat self-dutch-braid!

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      Thanks for the compliment. I never think my braids look neat, so this made my day!
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Tale of Nokdu Episodes 11-12 (or full-length episode 6):

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    So you mean to tell me that Nokdu locked lips with future King Injo?

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Hell is Other People Small Observation:

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    I guess that Moon-jo finally received the “union” he was seeking with his chagiya, Jong-woo.

    🙁

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      Could I ask to be spoiled? What happens?

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        Well, things are not so clear cut. I recommend checking out some of @boughtabride‘s posts.

        Moon-jo tells Jong-woo that he can leave the goshiwon alive if he agrees to kill the other residents.

        As the events unfold, we see Moon-jo himself kill Ahjumma and Deuk-jong. Ahjumma kills our resident sex offender. At least, that’s how things appear.

        The ending, however, leads us to believe that Jong-woo actually killed Ahjumma, Deuk-jong, sex offender, and eventually Moon-jo. He does not, however, kill his girlfriend or army junior (we are led to believe that Nambok and Deuk-jong killed the army friend). We see then see the events play out with Jong-woo as the aggressor. The female cop comes to this conclusion after talking with the detectives on the case. She herself was at the scene, but did not actually see who killed whom, as she was partially conscious.

        Before Moon-jo dies, he is elated that Jong-woo has become his perfect creation. He even gifts Jong-woo a bracelet made of the teeth of past victims.

        At the end, Jong-woo’s psche seems to have broken. Visually, we see a back and forth at one point between his face and Moon-jo’s.

        Significantly, the female cop even appears to see the dead dentist. I interpret this to me that she has been effected to some extent by the events that unfolded.

        The dentist seems to have won. And he seems to have merged with Jong-woo.

        This is just a very quick summary. I am writing this at work, so I apologize. It’s much more complicated and reality is hard to distinguish from fiction.

        I do not see Jong-woo as being like Moon-jo at all, but I do believe he reached his final breaking point.

        As I said before, nothing is clear cut.

        And up till the end, Jong-woo still doesn’t receive any care or counseling. He is still isolated.

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          Sorry for the spelling errors.

          I meant “affected to some extent.”

          I am sure there are other errors. Again, I wrote this quickly, without editing.

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          you did a great job! summarizing and also highlighting the contradictions.

          i guess the main question would be: what did moon jo think he achieved. if it was to find someone like him then he failed because jong woo is not the same as him. if it was to drive someone crazy and exploit all their inherent issues (which is what abusers do!) and then go “see! he’s a killer!” they’re two totally different outcomes

          the gosiwon residents and jongwoo/outside world are not on the same playing field. had ji eun been in jongwoo’s spot, she either would have been dead OR been able to withstand until just the end with the final moments. i also dont see how it is physically possible between what happened with the murdering of the tenants and switching back/forth

          for me it’s like….there’s no supernatural element. it’s all from the psyche. but what did moon jo think he achieved? and jong woo also still sees him. i think that means he’s still there actually maybe in a physical sense but more metaphorical. so at this point my conclusion can be that as viewers we have been gaslit in a sense and jong woo definitely has. in fact, gaslighting relies on what people tell you. circular logic and making sure the other person BELIEVES what you’re telling them to be true and what they thought previously was not (i.e. moon jo killed everyone but we are told no it’s actually jong woo) there’s always going to be these lasting prints in jong woo’s mind. hopefully he will get better and if moon jo is dead (even though THAT wouldnt make sense in case of the literal story) the only thing he accomplished was making jong woo so miserable that he couldn’t think

          ur right, nothing is clear cut

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            Yes, exactly what Moon-jo hoped to achieve is not clear. He probably thought he saw a kindred spirit, of sorts, in Jong-woo. But like you said, I do not believe that Jong-woo is the same. Moon-jo said that he did what he did simply because he enjoyed preying on the “weak.” I don’t see Jong-woo being that way. Is he a little troubled? Yes, but that is due to a number of reasons that were never addressed…in fact, they were ignored. I think that Jong-woo could have been treated successfully if his issues had been recognized and addressed (it must be added that he did not acknowledge or addressed his own issues, never mind what others around him failed to do.).

            Jong-woo says things and behaves strangely, but I still believe that he acts and thinks differently from Moon-jo. Even in his fantasies, in which he remarks that he “should have killed,” so and so, it s usually in the context of his feelings toward a bully or cruel figure (such as that disturbed soldier that we see in Jong-woo’s flashbacks).

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          Thanks for this Peridot! I couldn’t watch the show after around ep 3 because I…was too creeped out (I followed the recaps instead), and I can see how Jong-woo must have been driven mad by staying there. Also, I now understand why I couldn’t understand what reviewers were saying about the ending.

          So after reading your & @amara’s views I quickly fast forwarded my way through the last episode, and ufff.

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            That’s completely understandable. It is a creepy show.

            I’m glad that I could help!

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The work day is almost over…almost!

#weekendwork #I\’malsoheretomorrowmeaningsunday

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This character from Melanie Martinez’s Musical film, K-12, is so cute. And, of course, she’s adorable too.

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Don’t want August to end, but I am so looking forward to this drama.

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When the Devil Calls Your Name:

I find it interesting that our devil is tone deaf. This made me think about Hildegard of Bingen’s morality play, The Order of Virtues (or, Ordo Virtutem), composed in the twelfth century. This musical drama details the struggle between the Virtues and the Devil to control the Human Soul (the subject of the drama). I thought about this medieval work because while almost all of the roles in it are musical, the Devil’s is the only non-singing part. This is because Hildegard of Bingen did not believe that the Devil could possibly sing and produce mellifluous notes (I remember learning about this in college). I believe it had something to do with the belief that music was divine in nature. Something like that. I am a little fuzzy on the details.

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    Ohh that’s so interesting! I think I have learned/heard of the belief that music is divine in nature as well, especially from my medieval architecture history class. We talked a lot about the structures of cathedrals, how voices would echo and amplify when the monks sing hymns. It’s been so long and I’m probably just spouting nonsense at this point lols.
    The Devil being tone deaf is such a comic relief detail in this drama. He can bring the dead back to life, but oops, he can’t carry a note.

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    I haven’t had a chance to check this drama out yet, but that’s a really interesting observation. I know the drama supposed to be based on loosely on Faust, something I remember studying at least twice, possibly three times while getting my degree. I’m hazy on the details but there were definitely musical parts in that play as well: I have a very distinct memory of a really obnoxious classmate singing during his group presentation and the whole lecture hall trying to keep a straight face – it was so awkward. He stood up on a table. I’m cringing just remembering this and it’s been a decade at least.

    I digress. Anyway, I guess I’m saying I’d not be surprised if there were other medieval influences as well – Faust itself drew from many sources, including morality plays. There are a lot of interesting questions of morality and the soul to be mined from the literature of the medieval period and early Elizabethan times because the of the deeply religious undercurrents and I’m fascinated by how they get reinterpreted in the modern day.

    But music being divine in nature is a fascinating contrast – especially if one sells their soul to make it. It would lead to the question of whether one can make something that is divine if they are damned? Anyway, I’m probably getting too analytical of something I haven’t even had a chance to watch yet. But I love your insight, and I love seeing the influences literature has on dramas.

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      Thanks for sharing this bit of background. I confess to not having read Goethe’s Faust, but I do know the basic plot. I will have to read it one day.

      I hope I am not getting the detail about music being divine in nature wrong. I do remember specifically that Hildegard deliberately made the devil’s role a non-singing one. If anything, she didn’t believe that the devil was capable of singing.

      “..whether one can make something that is divine if they are damned?”

      Good question. There is also the idea that music can be corrupting if it incites the wrong kind of feelings in an individual. I guess music can be both divine and not so divine. Maybe after you watch the episodes, you could come back to this thread and share some more of your thoughts.

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    “music was divine in nature”

    Except for the noise coming from the boom box in the car next to me at the stop light.

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