Beanie level: Errand boy

Thoughts on the latest episodes of Mouse (spoilers):

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    Are we being mislead once again?

    I had been suspicious of Ba-reum from the very first time viewers saw him. I mentioned in my first comment on the drama threads that I tried to view his words and actions through a darker lens. Due to the very subject of this show, and Lee Seung-gi’s character playing an important part, I feel like most people would have had to begin to suspect Ba-reum at some point, even before the latest revelations.

    While I saw him as a possible suspect behind the Deadly Sins murders, I still didn’t necessarily see him behind all of them, especially with the timing of some of the crimes.

    Questions:

    Going with the belief that Ba-reum killed Moo-chi’s hyung, Moo-won, during that live stream:

    In episode fifteen’s flashback to this murder, didn’t Moo-won see Ba-reum’s face? He also would have heard his voice. Why, then, did he not name the murderer when he was still able to do so during the livestream?

    Related to this, I could have sworn Ba-reum was watching the livestream in the same room as Moo-chi. Am I misremembering? Remember the whole faked video and the mysterious caller? Ba-reum was in the same room at that time. He handed Moo-chi the faked video, which was part of the team’s plan to coax the killer.

    That is if the murder was actually committed on live tv. Initially, I had thought it was pre-recorded, but then it was said to have been live.

    The comatose friend, Chi-kook:

    As others have asked, why was he left alive all this time? He never seemed to have had a 24/7 guard, even before Yo-han was killed and identified as (without further investigation) the killer behind the Seven-Deadly-Sins murders. If Ba-reum had brutally stabbed him, why would he have left him behind as a liability? (He shouldn’t have had to worry about security and fully-functioning cameras, since they seem to not exist/properly function at key points in this drama, lol).

    I still think that something very big is operating in the background.

    What about that cleanup crew?

    Why would all that evidence have been left in Ba-reum’s basement? Why was it cleaned up only after Ba-reum had seen it? Is he being actively followed? If he was known to have been the killer all along, wouldn’t they have been aware of his hidden lair? Why wait till after he had re-discovered it to then remove all traces of it?

    Are Ba-reum’s memories unreliable? What the hell is going on?

    That being said, I am not saying that Ba-reum is in the clear. I’m just curious if there is the possibility of another big mislead/misdirection. And there remains the possibility of other suspects.

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      I think we all expected this twist. I have the same questions and don’t have any answers. Either there are some big plot holes or there is more to it all or both lol.

      I do think there is something big operating in the background. They showed that scene where Daniel Lee gave an envelope to someone in a black car again and then Daniel Lee said something like he hoped he had made the right decision back then. Then there was the guy Moo-chi saw on camera with “Oz” written on the paper. Is Oz the mastermind? Even if Ba-reum IS the killer, I think he’s spent his life as the “Mouse” in someone’s twisted experiment.

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        I can’t wait to find out what was in that envelope. I am glad that the latest episodes returned to the subject of the envelope, although we are left with more questions.

        “Even if Ba-reum IS the killer, I think he’s spent his life as the “Mouse” in someone’s twisted experiment.”

        Yes! I am really waiting for the big reveals to come.

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      Thing with BR is.. from the very beginning, you know he is the killer. So , in that respect i don’t think his memories are unreliable. The fact that he was neither a genius not a psychopath at the beginning, when we know he is one of the kids with the genes,tells you straightaway that he is acting/faking his personality… and then we keep getting glimpses of younger brother who is such an optimist.. which atleast i think is the personality BR is projecting when he is playing nice guy
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      I am more curious about daniel lee and head hunter’s relationship, and that lady politician (she probably is the one “saving” BR right now through Lee).
      So, bigger things in background – for sure there is an experiment lab being run.. pretty sure helmed by the lady and shin’s politician daddy (one who rejected lee’s plea of using dna testing on babies to identify abnormal cases)
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      Killing chi kook made no sense. Guy was comatose. Killer could be someone from prison… so how do you explain someone breaking out of prison , killing, chi kook etc.. too much trouble.. it would have raised more questions
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      Seungi being in the same room .. well we don’t know if he stayed.. or if church was nearby (because no one else knew bro was transferred to new church).. could be any of that

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        “The fact that he was neither a genius not a psychopath at the beginning, when we know he is one of the kids with the genes,tells you straightaway that he is acting/faking his personality… and then we keep getting glimpses of younger brother who is such an optimist.. which atleast i think is the personality BR is projecting when he is playing nice guy….”

        Yes, I have also thought about that. He didn’t seem to have any genius skills at the beginning. Side note: I don’t think that kind/nurturing young boy in the flashbacks was the (step or half) brother. I thought we didn’t know who that young boys was. I’m trying to remember the actor who played the younger brother in the first episode.

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          It is the same actor. Such undying love for his brother..

          I am most curious about this relationship. I know we were shown 3 dead bodies.. but i am really having a hard time accepting that he killed that brother. he was literally the only good thing in his life.. only one who genuinely loved him (trusted him too..)

          And we are shown a handicapped girl in the orphanage where they went to find that other girl who was a witness. Remember, the handicapped girl kept saying her brother will come and that looking at BR she was scared and kept saying he is not her brother..

          Have a feeling she is the younger step-sister (she was mentally challenged too right). That gives me hope that younger brother may not be dead (but then whose bodies were those.. )

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            Oh, it is. I’ll need to re-watch those scenes at one point.

            I hope they do return to that girl in the orphanage. That would be amazing if she were the step-sister.

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            It’s the same actor? I thought the stepbrother was much younger, just a young boy, and the nice, optimistic boy was the classmate who was watching him in the first episode.

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            @missh Which classmate?

            I am talking about the step brother.. who follows him in the field, who doesn’t rat on him, who notices his hurt hand, tells him to be careful when he is digging some hole to thrown in dead animal bodies.

            brother..

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            @alasecond Oh, based on the age and dialogue I thought that was a classmate. In the first episode, they showed a kid watching him after he killed the rabbit. In the field, the rabbit was mentioned so I thought it was the same kid.

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          @missh and @alasecond

          So the scene where the kid bandages Jae-hoon’s hand occurs in episode eleven. I looked at the kid and he does not look like the actor who plays the step brother. He looks older. And I was paying attention to the dialogue. He doesn’t refer to Jae-hoon as “hyung” at all. I think he is a classmate or something. I will include a pic of the actor in another post.

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            @missh

            You are correct about that boy’s identity. I shared some pics for comparison in another fanwall post.

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      I think there’s a high chance there’s something going on in the background (well, I mean someone had to remove the murder lair 😅) but what or why, I’m not sure.

      Potentially both Ba Reum and Yo Han were “mice” in some twisted experiment and Yo Han had worked it out, hence doing Ba Reum a favour by trying to kill him?

      I think everyone expected Ba Reum to be evil (given the obvious alignment between his initial presentation as upright young man and casting Lee Seung Gi) so will be interesting to see how they run with it from here.

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        “I think everyone expected Ba Reum to be evil.”

        Yes, if not everyone, then at least most viewers expected it. That’s why another part of me is wondering about another twist to that revelation. But maybe it just is what it is. We have another revelations to explore anyway, what with experiments going on and possible government involvement.

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    twist wise .. as predicted

    But acting wise.. i like them all (except moochi, seungi’s gf, and PD) .. seungi is nailing it

    and pretty sure head hunter is keeping tabs on our hero

    this is a good series overall

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Dramatic video, lovely song. I had to share. Her voice is beautiful.

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@wishfultoki
I thought you might enjoy this! 🙂

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    Thank youuuu! Wow, that combination! Every time I hear Ahn Ye-eun it reminds me of REBEL: THIEF WHO STOLE THE PEOPLE.

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Saw the article on Soompi about Park Bo-young and Seo In-guk’s upcoming drama. What a pretty poster.

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    It’s been too long. I’m happy to see Bo-young back in a drama.

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    There’s just such an amazing contrast between their styles and genres. I don’t even care if the writing is terrible, I want to see what these two people bring to this and how they work together.

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This week\’s episodes of Beyond Evil were really good. There were some truly great performances.

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Some thoughts following the latest episodes of Mouse:

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    After watching the latest episodes of Mouse, I remembered something that I forgot to mention earlier. Could there be three babies with the suspect psychopath and/or genius gene? In episode one, when Dr. Lee talks to Seo-joon’s wife to discuss the results of her baby’s test, he is seen holding a large envelope. He excuses himself briefly (I don’t know if he receives a phone call) and hands the envelope to an unknown person in a vehicle. Who was that person and what was in that envelope? I might rewatch that scene because I don’t have all the details.

    @sirena and I were theorizing. The killer of the recent victims is privy to certain information. He anticipated the release of the faked video of the kidnapped child with a video of his own. @sirena wondered if he might be someone from an influential/rich background.

    Does our young doctor, Sung Yo-han know something? What is with the pictures of the victims on his wall? If he is not responsible for those deaths, is he trying to figure out who is? Was it he who met with Dr. Lee before the latter’s death? I could have sworn we saw his face after the stabbing, but again, that could be misleading. Also, there is his (late) friend. I felt like they were deliberately made to resemble each other so as to cause some confusion in some of their scenes.

    I have more thoughts, but I’ll leave what I have written here for now.

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      By late friend, I am referring to Kim Joon-sung.

      And by Dr. Lee, I am referring to David Lee.

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      I definitely think there are three babies. I remember the scene with the large envelope too and am thinking it went to that politician who voted no on the law because his wife was pregnant. I think the cop who “drank the evidence” might be that kid because he mentioned his dad was going to run for president.

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        Oh, there could be a connection to the politician. I am glad someone else remembered the envelope. I think I will repost my thoughts on the recap for the latest episodes. I don’t know if I should mention it sooner, since the recaps are a little behind. Then again, the envelope scene did occur in the first episode.

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        Wow, “drank the evidence” guy has been bothering me – he’s too well known as an actor for what has been a very small part so far. It would make a lot of sense if there’s a lot more to him! I was leaning towards the third child being a girl (maybe the reporter), but maybe not. I just thought a girl would mix it up a bit.

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          The reporter was identified as the young girl who unwillingly aided the Head Hunter in the killing of the young woman (episode one).

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            @peridot Wow, I totally missed that! I’ll have to go back and watch for that again.

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            @csmith

            Yeah, there was a brief flashback. It might have been in one of the latest episodes.

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    @scifiwritir

    I thought I would tag you here so that we could share some ideas and hypothesize. 🙂

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      The ending of episode 6 terrified me.

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        Oh, yes. I feel that the writer will include many such moments in future episodes. I expect many twists and turns. I also think that there is a third “psychopath/genius” baby that will play an important part in the story.

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Just wanted to share this lovely song with my fellow Beanies. 🙂

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That final scene in the theater is great. There is so much going on in the background. I\’ve noticed different things every time I\’ve replayed it. #runon

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Merry Christmas!

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So I\’m watching Sweet Home for the second time, and it seems like the subs have changed from the first time in certain parts. And in certain cases, I know the subs are wrong. #whynetflix#netflixsubs

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Hi, Beanies. I thought I would share this lovely video from a Hungarian YouTuber. I have been incorporating ribbons into some of my simple braids, and this video was another big inspiration. The long, decorative bow at the end of the braid reminds me of the traditional Korean hairstyle for maidens (side note: I love that hairstyle and the slight variations that you find in modern versions).

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DOLSOL: A drama whose ending actually managed to make me angry.

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I might avoid the fan walls for a few days. We should vote according to the dictates of our own consciences–not according to the wishes of others. I am also avoiding the social media of celebrities. I am tired of propaganda, blanket labeling of groups of people, and name calling. I might just stick to recap threads, even if I don\’t actually comment on them. Take care, Beanies!

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While I didn’t really care for episode five of Tale of the Nine Tailed, I did enjoy episode six. We got some interesting revelations/developments. And Looney as a fellow guardian spirit–can this be an extended cameo? I like that he is our folk village’s resident magistrate (he needs a job to pay those bills!). With his magical fan, I was reminded of Arang and the Magistrate, one of my favorite shows. And it was cute to see him eating macaroons.

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When everything is relative. 😉
#taleoftheninetailed

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Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol (how should I abbreviate this in the future? DOLSOL?)/ Episode One Thoughts:

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    When I remembered that the writer also wrote Shopping King Louis, I realized that there were similarities between the two shows. One example is the rich, naive, but kind-hearted lead who finds himself/herself in strange circumstances. There is also paralleling in certain scenes. Do you remember when Louis first sees the face of Bok-Shil on his television screen? He is so taken with her beauty. Lee Jae-wook’s character is similarly stricken when his sees Goo Ara’s Ra-ra. Also, I am suspicious of Secretary Moon (kind of like the shady ahjussi in Shopping King Louis), lol. Then there is the slightly older second male lead in both shows.

    I do not think that the Instagram handle whose images enticed Ra-ra to go to that beautiful place belonged to Secretary Moon. I have a feeling it was the Doctor, Cha Eun-seok. He heard Ra-ra’s recital, which included that Mozart arrangement of Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. He also left his practice in the city and went to that beautiful place.

    This could be a cute and heart-warming show. Hopefully, the “villains” will also be as ineffectual as those in Shopping King Louis. 🙂

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This was the hairstyle I wore to work today. 🙂

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How cute!

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Current re-watch: That Winter the Wind Blows

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    does it stand the test of time?
    I watched this a while back, and liked it, but even then, I thought it was a little weird.

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      For some reason, the opening episode was a bit much, but a lot of dramas have so-so set up episodes. Some aspects of the show are dated, and it is a melodrama, but I’m still enjoying the re-watch. I remember not being too fond of the ending, so I’m wondering how I’ll feel this time.

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