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Even this famous author is a Xiao Zhan fan boy… I feel less guilty 😉😉😉

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I’m dead again!

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Lee Joon Gi always wanted to do psychopath role, and I’m glad that he got his wish… also the plot sounds very intriguing… LJG & MCW really deserve a good drama after that Criminal of a Mess

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Who let him to be this handsome 😍😍😍😍😍😍

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OMG, this is indeed the best Christmas gift!!! 😊

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Can you share your most favorite Wei Wuxian’s Smile from The Untamed
P.S. I’m not a fan of smiley face but Xiao Zhan smile is so captivating

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Today’s Untamed Perk

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    Wang Yi Bo irl is truly like the kid brother of Xiao Zhan in real life, it’s so precious and CUTE!!!! He really does admire and look up to Xiao Zhan as a person irl

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      Not quite sure about “the kid brother” part … I do not understand the language and culture of big brother/little brother but watching the BTSs I felt they are like equal friends of same age (not the elder or Sunbae)… Wang Yi Bo is quite bold teasing Xiao Zhan all the time (maybe it’s just my personal interpretation)… first time I watched the BTS I thought they’re same age and seniority, I was shocked to find out WYB is quite younger and consider to be his junior

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        Oh, when I mean “kid brother”, I really mean just that— Wang Yi Bo looks up to Xiao Zhan the same way that a younger brother would look up to his biological brother 🙂 Always following what he does, always turns to him for advice/for fun things to do/for conversation… I’m not trying to make any references to culture XD
        But it’s very true what you say, too!! Xiao Zhan is just so easy going and easy to talk to and doesn’t make it seem like there is that age difference between the 2 of them.
        In terms of experience being in the spotlight and working in the entertainment industry, Wang Yi Bo would actually be considered the ‘senior’, as he started out a year before Xiao Zhan did (2014 Wang Yi Bo vs 2015 Xiao Zhan)

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          I’m totally unaware of XZ and WYB level of work seniority etc. Based on my own observation I feel that there is this mutual understanding, comfort and confidence between them that they look like same age friends rather than sunbae/hoobae or hyung/dongsaeng (not sure about the Chinese equivalent of theses terms)…

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            It’s like they don’t care about those social restrains when it comes to their friendship!

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            That’s true!! They don’t seem to care about those formalities, which is great 🙂
            In Chinese culture, the senior/junior a.k.a. sunbae/hoobae formality is not something that’s really regarded when you’re all part of the same generation doing the same things, unless it’s in a situation when it’s really explicit, i.e. In this “Day Day Up” episode (www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl5NYFnseIE&t=1589s), the girl group that’s guest was mentored and taught by Wang Yi Bo at some point, so even though they’re all in the same generation in terms of age, the girls still call Wang Yi Bo “Senior” or “Teacher” and show a certain level of respect to him.

            Within Chinese culture, when you’re of the same generation in terms of age, the sunbae/hoobae thing is hardly an issue. It’s when the generations start to cross and you have older or elder actors/actresses/singers that you’re working with that you have to be a lot more conscious about these things and should address the sunbae as such in public settings–unless the sunbae is super chill and tells you otherwise– as a sign of respect. I imagine that drama/movie sets are when the formalities of these things matter most in the Chinese entertainment industry, since the cast of a drama/movie is always so diverse and made up of actors/actresses of all walks of life

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            It seems like Chinese culture isn’t as stringent as Korean in regards to the age thing (or the sunbae/hoobae thing).

            And I agree @bebeswtz that WYB seems like a little brother compared to XZ. Maybe because they have the same dynamic me and my little brother or me and my little sister have with each other. The teasing, playfulness, the mock fighting, etc.

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            Thanks @bebeswtz for explaining Chinese culture regarding the sunbae/hoobae… so it seems that the social restrains around seniority/juniority is not as tough as Korean system… Watching Korean entertainment industry for many years I was so both shocked and rejoiced to see that WYB teasing XZ so freely and comfortably!! Sorry I was not trying to generalize but I though Korean and Chinese work culture might have similar standards…

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            @trinpie
            Yea! They seem to have a really good and chill dynamic as the base foundation of their friendship 🙂 They share Xiao Zhan’s tea and neither of them feel awkward about it lol I don’t find it awkward either (I live in North America where everything and anything doesn’t take itself seriously) because I share food & drinks with my friends, too, but I wasn’t expecting it from THEM haha

            @persianrose
            The Chinese cultural way of the sunbae/hoobae dynamic is definitely not as restrained and rigid as the Koreans, and I think that has a lot to do with the fact that Korean society is still very tiered, patriarchal, and backwards.
            That’s okay!! I can see where you’re coming from. Admittedly, many cultural things of Korea were indeed inherited and influenced from China in the ancient times–and have since then crossed over into modern times– since both countries are side-by-side 🙂

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      I’d always wondered what his drink was as you see him (and WYB stealing it) in a few BTS videos. It looked gross to me lol but I also don’t like tea. But they are adorable like always 😆

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        I think it’s just your regular ol’ Chinese green tea… In the second bts, at the 0:38 mark when Wang Yi Bo was describing the ‘goodness’ of Xiao Zhan’s tea, he said “綠茶”, which literally translates to ‘green tea’

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        Oh, I’m a green tea lover!! It truly reduces inflammation and swelling and clears up my foggy brain in the afternoon (I add some dried rose buds as well)!! Highly recommended 🍵

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      Honestly, I started drinkin Green tea just after I watched this vid like 10 times already!!!

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Happy for this new award 🤗☺💗
Hopefully the mullet is for a new historical project and not a new hairstyle

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I used to have a life and a strong willpower before this happen!


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One of the elements I really really loved about The Untamed is designing of the sets. The set designs have been done with such an attention to detail and color… Just look at the use of red against the blue in these scenes: The blooming of love against all the odds!!


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      Without fail. This is where WWX told LZ he was his soulmate and everything about that scene was absolutely beautiful and perfect.

      http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBXPOr4U4AAIm9B.jpg

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        One of my favorite scenes– esthetically and also because of the significance of the exchange between Lan Zhan and Wei Ying <3

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        Yes, my absolute favorite scene… such a beautiful shot

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          The zoom out that oversaw all of LZ’s mother’s home was just *chefs kiss*.

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        @larelle79 there are so many iconic snow scenes in Asian Dramas but they are mainly cheesy and cliche, yet the snow scene here is so elegant , it’s like the snow creates the feeling of “transparency” and “purity”

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          And with the end of that long shot where WWX was there leaning against the outside wall and was gone, I think that was the easter egg of them consummating their relationship.

          Just a sharp shot overall.

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      I can’t really pick out a scene over the rest – though this is striking. Now I’ll pay more attention.
      But overall the design of each set is quite striking – as is the cinematography as they show it all.

      It is all just breathtakingly beautiful – and the sets are too. 🙂

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      I love all the aerial shots of the Cloud Recesses’ buildings and the beautiful lotus patterns in all the scenes at Lotus Pier, so that’s basically half the drama. lols

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      I do have one fav design setting/bg graphics. But I have a pic of it that i wanna share… how do i add a pic in ma comment??

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    Yes, it’s beautiful. I had come up with a word I thought perfectly described every aspect of Untamed: “Vibrant”.

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    I don’t know how to do these gifs so I can’t add any. But if someone can, my favorite is – oh, wait, there are too many.

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      I know right, they are just to many to count… It’s amazing how every location/sect building has its very unique design… but my most favorite is “jingshi” indeed, blue and green shades plus darker shades of wood and white jade accessories and flowers, the aesthetics of Gusu Lan sects are spectacular

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        Yes of course, thanks! But the one that keeps coming back to my mind takes place in the jingshi, after they return when Wei Ying was stabbed and he’s lying in the bed the next morning. The bed, background, round window, are so beautiful and harmonious. And the other scene is also at the jingshi, outside where you see the crane in the water (is it when Wei Ying first returns and wakes up and goes outside? I don’t quite remember).

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        That one is one of my favorites. The water fountain thing in the center for the ancestral tablets is so cool and different.

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          And I noticed in my 2nd watch that they actually bowed 3 times!!!

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            Yeah, we talked a lot in Viki comments about the bowing 3 times. Some agreed and some “violently” disagreed. Because the drama is a pure drama, so never mind any impure suggestions…

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            Are you alluding to him bowing for marriage? Because bowing 3 times traditionally means you pay great respect to the person you are bowing to. In this case, to the deceased Jiang members. So it could go either way.

            Though in the book he only bowed twice. As he was saving the last bow to Lan Zhan at a later date.

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            I’m not quite familiar with the significance of bowing 3 times etc., but as they did it 3 times instead of 2 times (as compared to the novel), I’m sure the production team were teasing the audiences with another subtle love confession!!

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            The shippers were ecstatic because Chinese wedding custom includes bowing 3 times- one to the heaven and earth, one for parents and one to each other

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            @outofthisworld oh I know. I personally just saw them showing respect to the deceased Jiangs. Since 3 bows can be used both for marriage and to show respect to someone. And when getting married the last bow will be to each other, something they didn’t do in the drama. But I can see how and why people would think it was an easter egg for them getting married 😁

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    So. one thing the team was lauded for was keeping the aesthetics similar to fan work and anime

    that could have been another outlet of backlash.. and as far as i can tell, on TGCF they are sticking to maintaining the same strokes and patterns as of popular fanarts much more stringently

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      I know that the designs and concepts are all from the source material (novel and anime), yet it’s not easy to bring those aesthetics to life with such an accuracy and delicacy

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    The production and crew definitely did a beautiful and fantastic job at the set and costume designs, and their attention to detail is just LOVE

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    Chinese period dramas are usually feast for the eyes. Glorious, beautiful, aesthetically awesome sets, costumes and props with amazing details.
    I am not sure but this drama should be in the average or higher than average in terms of budget. I’ll say they spent it well. I don’t care about spectacular on location shooting or advanced CGI if the important elements aren’t there.

    I feel that I’m so spoiled by these good period C dramas and beautiful aesthetics that I find it hard to watch Korean period. I used to like colourful but now they look plain. Another thing which I never liked in saeguks was the top knot and shapeless hanboks for men. At least in C wuxia or xianxia, there’s a good chance of getting glorious mane like WY and LZ have. Their robes are also cinched at the waist which show off a V shape torso instead of an inverted frock.

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      I 100% prefer the looks of cdrama costumes and hair. I absolutely love most cdrama period styles (except Qing dynasty like in Yanxi Palace). Their beautiful long hair, fitted or flowing robes. But I really don’t like the joseon style. They may be beautiful color wise but they are all incredibly frumpy looking with the silliest hats and topknots.

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        Yes, same here. The Qing dynasty men’s pigtail is the worst. Other than that, they are all better than the topknot with hat. Goryeo should be fine but kdrama don’t seem to make good wigs. They were mostly terrible.

        For the Chinese costumes, even if the colours aren’t always multicoloured, the details are very intricate. For example, LZ wears white and shades of light blue but you can see the diverse patterns, embroidery and texture of the fabric

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          I’ve seen some good Goryeo styles, but sadly there are very few and far between dramas about that period. And yes, you are more likely to have an awful wig than a good one in a kdrama.

          One thing that drew me initially to cdramas was their beautiful styles. They definitely do a wonderful job on their outfits. Some of the color combinations are absolutely beautiful and yes, the details they typically put into the outfits are wonderful.

          I loved LZ outfits. It may have been just whites or blues, but on closer inspection the details put into them was very exquisite ❤️

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          I think it’s not just about the good quality wigs, it’s that wind effect that makes the wigs look so ethereal and beautiful… also combine that ever flowing hair with the flowing exquisite costumes, long sleeves, wide shoulder and the wide sash on those thin waist… the combination is just so pleasant! Oh, I want to time travel to ancient China ❤️

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      @outofthisworld @trinpie
      The Untamed is my very 1st C-darma and for me it was close to perfection when it comes to the design of set, costumes and makeups especially in comparison to period k-dramas which always have same settings, buildings and decorations regardless of the dynasty (in one word they never make me want to visit Korea)… However to be fair some period k-dramas have stunning cinematography (e.g. Mr. Sunshine) and some Goryeo one have decent costume design too (e.g. Shine or Go Crazy) and some have the most gorgeous team of actors (Moon Lover), but unfortunately they barely have all the elements fit together… they focus on one element and forget about the others…

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      Those shapeless puffy hanboks is one of the reason that Korean actors have to lose too much weight to look good on them!! Some of them even look anorexic after finishing a period drama…

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Today’s Perk ☺🤗

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Wish you a very happy and blessed Thanksgiving!!🦃


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The Untamed Umbrella CM
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