Beanie level: The Goblin’s underpants

Happy for this new award 🤗☺💗
Hopefully the mullet is for a new historical project and not a new hairstyle

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I used to have a life and a strong willpower before this happen!


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      On the contrary, I’m actually getting “Untamed” again with everyone’s posts after un-untaming myself XD HELP

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      No success, not really, no. I have tried every drama, gone back to old favorites, watch a few minutes, not interested. One problem is so many dramas lately seem to be filmed in browns and darker colors. Untamed is lighter, beautiful blues, calm, peaceful yet vibrant. Even the actors reflect that. But this slight smile of LanZhan, one of the best moments.
      One of my favorite moments is the first time WeiYing finds LZ in the pool, runs down and kicks off his boots, one of which goes flying thru the air. I doubt it was supposed to go flying off, but that was so cute.

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        By the way, thanks for posting – it came at just the right moment. Now I can go do my errands with a cheerful heart!

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        That flying boot was so so so cute, it showed how excited he was to bath with the beauty… he run the stairs in just 2 second 😂😂😂

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        Re the “slight smile of LanZhan”: Kudos to WYB for pulling off LZ character so amazingly perfect… Instances of him smiling in this drama are just a few, but every time he smiles, even tho it’s always imperceptible and faint he still manages to convey his emotion with the force of a storm… I think WYB’s acting style should be used as an example of perfect acting in acting schools… Nowadays there are so many over-acting both in dramas and movies and not so many example of calm subtle performances … @linda-palapala who likes LZ’s slight smile also @outofthisworld who adores WYB

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          I’m on the road with very crappy internet but I just need to try get this reply out.

          Thanks @persianrose for mentioning me. Yes, I adore Yibo and it’s for his looks. He made me fall so hard for Lan Zhan and the more I dig, the deeper I fell.

          I developed a huge allergy to overacting over years of dramas. It’s not just Untamed but in his other dramas and short skits or films, he’s shown good control and is very nuanced.

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            Regardless of his ethereal look and brilliant pop style he’s indeed a genius actor!! I noticed it more and more after I rewatched TU. There is this scene after he visits Burial Mounds and they encounter and control WN, when he asks WY if he can really control it (I need to search and find that scene), it’s amazing how he looks so strong yet so vulnerable at the same time!! I’m not sure how WYB can convey so many emotions through his micro-expression (maybe in 1/25th second his expression is changing from strong to vulnerable/concern)

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            Darn typo. I meant ‘not just for looks.’

            @persianrose you made my day. I am happy whenever someone appreciates YB’s acting. Both XZ and YB were rookie actors but XZ got recognized and accepted quicker and more readily than YB. I can see why because I too fell for XZ’s charms first. He was really the one who got viewers bought in and hooked. YB was slow burn. In the beginning I even called him grim faced. But I fell very hard as the drama progressed. I totally bought LZ’s love for WY.

            On rewatch and especially making gifs, I was so mesmerized by his nuanced expressions. He was able to convey the emotions through them all.

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            @outofthisworld Trying to watch Jade Dynasty with XZ, and it’s making me appreciate how natural and how much more at ease he is with WYB in Untamed. It’s like they were made for each other. No matter what other roles they play, I’ll be greatly surprised if it comes anywhere near as natural as they are in Untamed. They truly are soulmates.

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      Un-untamed.

      Wait, that’s a thing?

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        Such blasphemy it seems, right??? lol
        But it can be done— just painfully T.T Imagine the type of pain that Wei Ying had to go thru in order to have his Golden Core extracted out of himself so that he can give it to Jiang Cheng…. It’s THAT painful T…………………..T But it can be done

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      I am not even trying, not yet. I only watched it one time.

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      It’s just so much easier to watch than other dramas. I don’t know why, but the scenes blend so well into the next scene, you find yourself having watched 4 episodes not even noticing time passing.

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      I’m on my rewatch, 1st novel read, 1st Audio-drama run. and so far I’m loving them all.
      I don’t really want to be un-Untamed hahaha

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        same here, there’s really no need to be un-untamed 😉 😉 😉

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      I’m not really trying. Just reading all books by MXTX. Almost tempted to go back to reread MDZS.

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      given i started way before you guys.. my craze is wearing off now.. largely because of lack of new content since almost 2 months now

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      I’m happy not to be un-untamed for now….why hurry..hehe

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    Not so well. I’m at episode 45 of my third watch and wept all over again when Wen Neng and Ah Yaun reconnected.
    I must say the scene a few episodes back when WX put LZ into bed when he’s passed out drunk, and he looks closely into his face, touches his cheeks, the shakes himself after looking so closely reminded me of the same scene in the book when WX suddenly finds he is really really warm all of a sudden.
    Still seeing so much more. Not watching anything else!

    I guess what I’m trying to say is willpower? What willpower?

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One of the elements I really really loved about The Untamed is designing of the sets. The set designs have been done with such an attention to detail and color… Just look at the use of red against the blue in these scenes: The blooming of love against all the odds!!


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      Without fail. This is where WWX told LZ he was his soulmate and everything about that scene was absolutely beautiful and perfect.

      http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBXPOr4U4AAIm9B.jpg

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        One of my favorite scenes– esthetically and also because of the significance of the exchange between Lan Zhan and Wei Ying <3

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        Yes, my absolute favorite scene… such a beautiful shot

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          The zoom out that oversaw all of LZ’s mother’s home was just *chefs kiss*.

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        @larelle79 there are so many iconic snow scenes in Asian Dramas but they are mainly cheesy and cliche, yet the snow scene here is so elegant , it’s like the snow creates the feeling of “transparency” and “purity”

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          And with the end of that long shot where WWX was there leaning against the outside wall and was gone, I think that was the easter egg of them consummating their relationship.

          Just a sharp shot overall.

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      I can’t really pick out a scene over the rest – though this is striking. Now I’ll pay more attention.
      But overall the design of each set is quite striking – as is the cinematography as they show it all.

      It is all just breathtakingly beautiful – and the sets are too. 🙂

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      I love all the aerial shots of the Cloud Recesses’ buildings and the beautiful lotus patterns in all the scenes at Lotus Pier, so that’s basically half the drama. lols

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      I do have one fav design setting/bg graphics. But I have a pic of it that i wanna share… how do i add a pic in ma comment??

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    Yes, it’s beautiful. I had come up with a word I thought perfectly described every aspect of Untamed: “Vibrant”.

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    I don’t know how to do these gifs so I can’t add any. But if someone can, my favorite is – oh, wait, there are too many.

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      I know right, they are just to many to count… It’s amazing how every location/sect building has its very unique design… but my most favorite is “jingshi” indeed, blue and green shades plus darker shades of wood and white jade accessories and flowers, the aesthetics of Gusu Lan sects are spectacular

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        Yes of course, thanks! But the one that keeps coming back to my mind takes place in the jingshi, after they return when Wei Ying was stabbed and he’s lying in the bed the next morning. The bed, background, round window, are so beautiful and harmonious. And the other scene is also at the jingshi, outside where you see the crane in the water (is it when Wei Ying first returns and wakes up and goes outside? I don’t quite remember).

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        That one is one of my favorites. The water fountain thing in the center for the ancestral tablets is so cool and different.

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          And I noticed in my 2nd watch that they actually bowed 3 times!!!

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            Yeah, we talked a lot in Viki comments about the bowing 3 times. Some agreed and some “violently” disagreed. Because the drama is a pure drama, so never mind any impure suggestions…

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            Are you alluding to him bowing for marriage? Because bowing 3 times traditionally means you pay great respect to the person you are bowing to. In this case, to the deceased Jiang members. So it could go either way.

            Though in the book he only bowed twice. As he was saving the last bow to Lan Zhan at a later date.

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            I’m not quite familiar with the significance of bowing 3 times etc., but as they did it 3 times instead of 2 times (as compared to the novel), I’m sure the production team were teasing the audiences with another subtle love confession!!

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            The shippers were ecstatic because Chinese wedding custom includes bowing 3 times- one to the heaven and earth, one for parents and one to each other

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            @outofthisworld oh I know. I personally just saw them showing respect to the deceased Jiangs. Since 3 bows can be used both for marriage and to show respect to someone. And when getting married the last bow will be to each other, something they didn’t do in the drama. But I can see how and why people would think it was an easter egg for them getting married 😁

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    So. one thing the team was lauded for was keeping the aesthetics similar to fan work and anime

    that could have been another outlet of backlash.. and as far as i can tell, on TGCF they are sticking to maintaining the same strokes and patterns as of popular fanarts much more stringently

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      I know that the designs and concepts are all from the source material (novel and anime), yet it’s not easy to bring those aesthetics to life with such an accuracy and delicacy

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    The production and crew definitely did a beautiful and fantastic job at the set and costume designs, and their attention to detail is just LOVE

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    Chinese period dramas are usually feast for the eyes. Glorious, beautiful, aesthetically awesome sets, costumes and props with amazing details.
    I am not sure but this drama should be in the average or higher than average in terms of budget. I’ll say they spent it well. I don’t care about spectacular on location shooting or advanced CGI if the important elements aren’t there.

    I feel that I’m so spoiled by these good period C dramas and beautiful aesthetics that I find it hard to watch Korean period. I used to like colourful but now they look plain. Another thing which I never liked in saeguks was the top knot and shapeless hanboks for men. At least in C wuxia or xianxia, there’s a good chance of getting glorious mane like WY and LZ have. Their robes are also cinched at the waist which show off a V shape torso instead of an inverted frock.

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      I 100% prefer the looks of cdrama costumes and hair. I absolutely love most cdrama period styles (except Qing dynasty like in Yanxi Palace). Their beautiful long hair, fitted or flowing robes. But I really don’t like the joseon style. They may be beautiful color wise but they are all incredibly frumpy looking with the silliest hats and topknots.

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        Yes, same here. The Qing dynasty men’s pigtail is the worst. Other than that, they are all better than the topknot with hat. Goryeo should be fine but kdrama don’t seem to make good wigs. They were mostly terrible.

        For the Chinese costumes, even if the colours aren’t always multicoloured, the details are very intricate. For example, LZ wears white and shades of light blue but you can see the diverse patterns, embroidery and texture of the fabric

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          I’ve seen some good Goryeo styles, but sadly there are very few and far between dramas about that period. And yes, you are more likely to have an awful wig than a good one in a kdrama.

          One thing that drew me initially to cdramas was their beautiful styles. They definitely do a wonderful job on their outfits. Some of the color combinations are absolutely beautiful and yes, the details they typically put into the outfits are wonderful.

          I loved LZ outfits. It may have been just whites or blues, but on closer inspection the details put into them was very exquisite ❤️

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          I think it’s not just about the good quality wigs, it’s that wind effect that makes the wigs look so ethereal and beautiful… also combine that ever flowing hair with the flowing exquisite costumes, long sleeves, wide shoulder and the wide sash on those thin waist… the combination is just so pleasant! Oh, I want to time travel to ancient China ❤️

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      @outofthisworld @trinpie
      The Untamed is my very 1st C-darma and for me it was close to perfection when it comes to the design of set, costumes and makeups especially in comparison to period k-dramas which always have same settings, buildings and decorations regardless of the dynasty (in one word they never make me want to visit Korea)… However to be fair some period k-dramas have stunning cinematography (e.g. Mr. Sunshine) and some Goryeo one have decent costume design too (e.g. Shine or Go Crazy) and some have the most gorgeous team of actors (Moon Lover), but unfortunately they barely have all the elements fit together… they focus on one element and forget about the others…

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      Those shapeless puffy hanboks is one of the reason that Korean actors have to lose too much weight to look good on them!! Some of them even look anorexic after finishing a period drama…

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Today’s Perk ☺🤗

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Wish you a very happy and blessed Thanksgiving!!🦃


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The Untamed Umbrella CM
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I’m trying my best to un-Untamed a bit and get my life back, but all my efforts go in vain the moment I see an Untamed pic or gif!!!
#sorrynotsorry


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Anybody wants to try some Emperor’s Smile Wine?!!

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Me before The Untamed happened: There is no way I can watch a C-drama, I can’t get the language!
Me after The Untamed happened: Listening to Untamed OSTs 24/7 (secretly thinking to learn the language so I can enjoy the OSTs even more!)
Me before The Untamed happened: I cannot watch anything more than 16 ep, no way that I can finish 50 ep!
Me after The Untamed happened: Even 300 ep is not enough!!
Me before The Untamed happened: I cannot marathon a drama, I have more important thing to do!
Me after The Untamed happened: I can marathon a drama and then start re-watching it back to back!!
Me before The Untamed happened: I don’t like Kkonminam or idols actors!
Me after The Untamed happened: 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳
Me before The Untamed happened: I don’t get why people like bromance or BL!!
Me after The Untamed happened: Bring it on 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍



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    Yes 😂😂😂😂 But Wei Ying’s denseness and obtuseness is flippin’ ADORABLE

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The Untamed Final Impression (**SPOILER**)

I really love the ending and appreciate C-dramas censorship for leaving things to our imagination… There was no verbal love confession or explicit romance… but The Untamed won my heart forever with the most subtle gentle friendship/romance/brotherhood/etc. (all those longing stares and teasing melted my heart forever)… The ending is open to interpretation and viewers are never really told how and why the ultimate mastermind arranged the whole scheme. The clues are there but you would have to piece them together and make some guesses (the most exciting open ending ever)…
One thing I hope is that k-drama makers stay far way and don’t ever think of adapting The Untamed!!
If you decide to watch The Untamed and you’re unfamiliar with xianxia dramas, my advice is to be patient and keep watching no matter what!!

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    @persianrose You’ve completed it! In record time, hahaha!

    This show is a very good example of how romance should be done. I just never thought it would be a BL drama to show the way. You don’t need forced set ups, yucky kisses and tropes, just good writing, directing, excellent acting and awesome awesome chemistry.

    About the mastermind, did you watched the video I posted on my fanwall? It explained the chain of events i.e. the ‘how’ but the reason behind it is simply because he wanted to revenge his brother.

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      @outofthisworld I finished the drama in less than a week, and believe me or not I started it all over again (without missing a second)… I’m enjoying it even more this time around…
      As for the romance, they showcased so many complicated love stories, on a very subtle way, without forcing it or any excessive skinship…
      I haven’t watched your video yet, I decided to specially watch NHS characters this time around and figure it out myself…

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        @persianrose This is a common phenomena – rewatching and some have done it more than twice! I am the sort who never rewatch dramas, at least not in its entirety. So I was surprised at how during the second round, I noticed more things and appreciate how nuanced they were.

        You are spot on on the romance. No need for tropes, forced angst or third parties. The chemistry was off the charts just by them expressing it through their eyes and smiles.

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    So happy you enjoyed it. It’s definitely a lovely drama and one of my favorite romances with how absolutely beautiful it was.

    “One thing I hope is that k-drama makers stay far way and don’t ever think of adapting The Untamed!!”

    Oh god you just made me visibly shudder thinking of a kdrama adaption. Please don’t ever let it happen!

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    I just got to the part where he’s brought Wen Qing & Wen Ning, and the remnants of the Qishan Wen Sect to the burial grounds (where he spent 3 months) to establish their own little place ☺️☺️☺️

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      Brace yourself my dear!!!

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        I am trying to prepare my heart, because from watching the beginning of the drama, I already know that the worst (Lan Zhan being the one to kill Wei Wu Xian) is going to happen—which isn’t too bad/tragic since it’s what WWX has said he wants if he were to die (dying by the hands of LZ, I mean)— but I am sure some amount of tears will still be shed and some heartbreaking is still going to happen despite knowing 😰😰😰 Sigh

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          Remember to come back to this and discuss. I won’t spoil now.

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            If I forget to come back to this, Beanies are welcome to discuss it on my Fan Wall/in my posts, because I’m bound to post and spam the Beanie Section with screencaps and commentary 😅😅 Just like how I’ve been doing this entire time, and just like I do with most of the dramas I watch 😁😁 I’m just relieved and happy that no one has called me out on Beanie Section spam yet haha

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“The world doesn’t deserve shi-Jie…” WWX
Typically Asian Dramas try so hard to make a tragic/poignant brother-sister relationship, however none of the dramas I’ve ever watched come even close to shi-Jie and WWX relationship… there is a very fine line between brother-sister love and romantic love (especially because they weren’t blood related), I’m glad that The Untamed maintained the brother-sister love so strong without falling to the romantic love trope.

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It took me a whole week to get through the first 3 episodes of The Untamed (new language because this my very 1st Chinese drama, new genre, etc.), then I watched ep 4-33 in only 3 days (totally obsessed!!!)… So far I’m in love with everything: strong complex storytelling, well-rounded multi-layered characters, stunning costumes and make-up (seriously the make-up and hair are so good that I want to time travel back to ancient world), and sophisticated and gorgeous stage production, and all the soul-wrenching conflicted relationship + plus Xiao Zhan is killing me with his multi-dimensional performance (playful yet so serious-minded, mischievous but so loyal, fierce, heroic, and courageous but yet fearful, wavering, emotional…)

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    You’re faster than I am haha

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    wow! welcome new Untamed Beanie! 🙂 I’m so glad to see new Beanies watching the Untamed!!!

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    Omg. And here I am still on ep 23.

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      I wonder if a slower pace lessen the appreciation? I have never watched a C drama that’s currently airing…wait…I have. But they always air like 4 eps a week. I have no idea how it was when the Untamed was aired in China.

      Most viewers binge watched this from ep 20+ onwards, even if they do it slowly or struggle in the initial parts.

      I was so fixated on this show that I couldn’t continue or pay attention to any other drama. Everything paled in comparison. @persianrose described it excellently.

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    AMAZING!

    You have given the most worthy praises for this drama. I am happy that this is an excellent introduction to C dramas for you.

    C dramas are a mixed bag at best. The bigger budget ones have beautiful costumes and props but not all can deliver on the story. When all stars align, you get masterpieces like this.

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Deep down The Untamed rabbit hole

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It\’s so rare for one great dramatic actor to be also equally great or even believable at comedy! Typically they are over-dramatic or even unlivable sometime! Exceptions are some well-experienced seasoned actors such as Meryl Streep or Robert DeNiro (Korean actors come to my mind are Lee Moon-Sik, Lee Byung-hun, Cho Seung-woo, Yoo Jae-myung). Natural comic timing is not something that\’s easily teachable/ or earned by academic lessons.
We see A LOT OF over-dramatic acting in Korean Dramas, especially in rom-com genre, for example all characters in What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim were over-the-top (not necessarily in a bad way, or maybe over dramatic is a k-drama charm!)! Whether this acting style is more of a cultural norm or director’s preference or simply not-very-good acting, I’m not quite sure. I just learned one thing: it\’s really easy to go over the top specially with comedy, and the most crucial elements that helps with keeping the wacky humor in balance is a GOOD DIRECTOR. Sometimes rookie actors who have zero acting experience are less over-dramatic (they might not even know how to act dramatic and just controlled by the director), hence they’re easier to watch.
After about 15 years of watching K-dramas, I’m used to watching over-the-top acting that sometime I’m not noticing it so much (unless I’m watching it with someone new to k-drama land). I also saw so many evolution and k-dramas certainly moved toward more subtle acting (one examples is Forest of Secret/Stranger), but I have not seen so much progress in rom-com department acting yet.

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    But perhaps for South Koreans, actors from your part of the world are under-acting? 😀 Kidding. I enjoy the Korean drama version of acting, even overacting, because very often the character calls for it. Everything is exaggerated, but it gets the point across.

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    When I watched Stranger, I thought to myself, if required/asked/directed to, many Korean actors can act. It was a revelation to be sure.

    Your comment about rookie actors got me thinking about Lee Jun Ho in Chief Kim. He was brilliant there imo.

    Lastly, you comment about comedic timing can’t be taught and this post in general reminded me that I’ve been meaning to post a few of the Hollywood Reporter’s Roundtable. I think it provides for some good conversation/discussion.

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    One great dramatic actor to be equally great in comedy? Sounds like Shin Sung Rok to me. Hehe. Especially after his first romcom lead in Perfume as Yi Do.

    He can be dramatic, emotional, wacky, funny and all sorts of emotions in between without overdoing or overacting. His musical background might have a hand in polishing his acting chops. He is still underated though.

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    You need to watch Seo In Guk!

    Haha, I know why and who you’re actually taking about. I’m enjoying his role despite what others say. Even his partner praised him for delivering some unexpected reactions. He’s too young to be perfect in everything. Have to leave room for improvement. Yet, humbly accept some criticism.

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      Actually I watched most of SIG’s drama and I think he’s quite subtle actor and haven’t seen hin overact… I liked his comedic moments in Shopping King Louis (though the drama got boring on the 2nd half)… however I always wonder why Korean are not so fond of him (or maybe it’s only my impression)!! Is it because he doesn’t over-act??!!
      I was not criticizing any specific actor rather saying over-actings (or over-the-top comedic moments) are more of directing style/ Korean style rather than bad acting skills…

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        Koreans were fond of SIG and do acknowledge his acting skills. He’s just plagued by military issues.

        I know. Sometimes directors want the over the top acting because they want a certain impression. Normally you can tell by the visual tone of the drama itself. The more vivid the screen is, the more expressive they want the actors.

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    Nokdu Flower. An incredible lesson in non over-acting, both comedically and dramatically. It is simply perfect.

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Every single scene is like a beautiful painting

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    Dear, may I ask a question?
    I just saw your username and seeing the word “Persian” caught my attention. Are you Persian? Or it’s just a username you chose based on personal reasons? ^^

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Mr. Sunshine Ep6
I like how poetic is this drama… I don’t really care about the historical aspect or accuracy as far as this drama keeps its poetic & artful storytelling… LBH is THE BEST k-actor

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