random thought but I don\’t think those shoes are PPL. There\’s no branding shown onscreen, they\’re identifiable only by the huge buckle (a RV signature) and no shots of a label or box. Not bad, QOT!
I think the combination of budget and actors meant they could be picky about what they are willing to do for PPL. There is no branding shown for the Bulgari jewelry, and The Subway PPL is notable becasue we have the branding, but none of those cliched phrases about how tasty it is, or how you can choose your fillings.
Kim Soo Hyun has a lot of commercial contracts doesn’t he? I imagine that just getting him to eat a sandwich on screen costs a lot. I’m sure those shoes paid a placement fee.
the PPL is definitely not as jarring as Goblin or Signal-era Subway, but the Roger Vivier shoes strike me as very possibly not-PPL because the script actually makes a point of how they’re not Hae-in’s usual style, were on sale etc.
I mean, even Bulgari gets its branded necklace box shown onscreen when Hae-in is dressing up but the shoes practically got called ugly and cheap (albeit by the villain, the drama makes a point of presenting them as cute and modern) which is a rather unusual way to approach PPL but I appreciate it!
The comments about the shoes are for those in the back who didnāt pay attention to them. Cars are rarely mentioned in dramas but we see the dashboard, interior and lots of angles of the exteriors. Mercedes are all over in this show, we even hear the distinct growl of the sports car. Some brands donāt need to be boxed or mentioned explicitly they speak for themselves. I bet the clothes, even secretary Naās 2 sec screen shot of her especially bought formal dress for work are all sold out the day the episode airs.
to be fair, when it comes to cars it’s impossible to avoid because there’s no car that comes without its logo on the front (I remember older kdramas actually blurring car grills because presumably those weren’t paid for) so they may as well take advantage of it. Whoever ran PPL on this drama has mostly been doing a really good job – Mercedes, Bulgari etc are brands that rich people would actually wear and use irl.
that said, re: clothes, Queen of Tears was shot over 2023 and delayed from its intended air date – if any of the clothes used onscreen were part of a seasonal collection (which is most of her outfits) they’re probably not available to buy any more but anything in a permanent collection like the Serpenti jewellery, is certainly going to see a lot more interest now.
Definitely PPL. Kdramas have for ever had ppl with no branding shown. The branding then goes around by word of mouth and social media.
Showing the branding and long shot scenes only shows the brand and/or the production agreed on a lot bigger figure.
this particular case is unusual because the shoes got all but called ugly and cheap in-show before becoming like couple talisman #2 (behind their wedding rings) which is not how I’ve known any PPL to ever go. Still smart of the production to arrange it that way and the brand to agree if they did.
it’s actually the smarter way to approach product placement, if you ask me. Doesn’t irritate viewers, product still gets its airtime but in a way that fits in to the story rather than sticking out – wish more kdramas followed that way of doing things.
The shoes had a prime shot with KSH holding both of them and presenting them. And then a shot of her wearing them. And Then a new shot of KSH putting them on her feet in Europe (And was that a different episode? I think so) And THEN they just happen to show up as an advertisement in Elle just coincidentally right when the episodes are airing…
That’s too much to be coincidental.
(Also, just think of the marketing effort behind that- Its probably a newly released shoe, which means that they would have had sample prototypes for filming. And then the ad would have been booked when they knew the broadcast schedule, 6? months ago.)
Also, I expect that the PPL fee does not get paid to the production company until the drama is broadcast, and not unless its broadcast in a reasonable time frame. Problems with the actors and it’s delayed, less or no money. They will be going to the advertisers with in-principle agreements about airing dates already in hand.
(Though at least wardrobe gets to use the shoes whatever happens)
to be clear – the image I posted of the show is from the March 2023 issue of Elle i.e. from one year ago (it’s my copy) so it’s not a newly released shoe as of QOT airing date.
It does however appear to be part of Roger Vivier’s permanent sneaker selection since it’s still visible on their website and currently available on Net-a-Porter, but if it was PPL – which is now likely – they were really smart about it, getting in shots with both leads holding/wearing the shoes in multiple episodes and in-drama dialogue drawing attention to them was a 10/10 marketing move by someone who saw a big picture beyond ‘show the name of the brand’.
I thought Bulgari did well at that with their wedding rings but along came episode 12 and we’re back to the old PPL playbook lol
If its not a new release/recent ad, then there is more chance of actual coincidence/not PPL.
I think its PPL, (but I have been wrong before)
It’s more likely coincidence/not PPL if we saw evidence of empty marketing slots/ inability to attract PPL/ fake brands in the show. And I don’t think we have seen that at all. They are not going to give someone that much promotion for free when they have lots of people willing to pay.
Well Hyun-woo’s car is a Mercedes – we see the logo. His coat is Burberry, we see the distinctive lining when Hae-in hands over his coat and Eun-blah’s grey jumper is Thom Browne and we get lingering shots of his back to see the distinctive tag. All is is just from Episode 12. So the marketing team has indeed been busy wining and dining a lot of brands, even if Eun-want–to-have-dinner was left hungry also hangry!?
The only ‘fake brand’ I can pinpoint here is Hae-in’s beloved Hercyna, which seems to be the QOT-universe version of HermĆØs.
which I can see the necessity for, as I doubt HermĆØs would ever have agreed to be prominently featured in a storyline where the heroine blackmails their president over an extramarital affair to get them into her department store lol.
@seeker lol he can Eun-starve for all I care but he does have nice outfits
Clothes are a bit of an unclear PPL area but the drama’s been smart with them in that all of the brands (obvious or not) are ones rich people would believably wear and not TOO obviously logoed. Like Hyun-woo’s coat lining and the TB in ep 12 and Hae-in’s full-look Dior princess outfit (complete with logoed belt) in ep 1 when she takes that helicopter to get her prince out of his pear orchard.
But 12 is the episode when they really kicked it up with the PPL, I couldn’t help but notice.
I didn’t recognise any of the clothing brands in the show. š I know the names, but I never would have been able to tell a Burberry coat from the lining, or a Thom Browne jumper. (It is fun to read about, thanks) I’m really not the audience those brands are aimed at.
I do recognise Mercedes though.
I’m just treating it as a sort of a drama fun game! The reason I recognize most brands is because many years ago I used to do some work for a high-end shopping mall chain.
After Hyun Woo punched him, I was like “yeap, he’s gonna kill him”, so calling that gangster didn’t surprise me, but the kidnapping really scared me for a sec. 😖 I didn’t see that coming.
I totally thought he was going to kidnap her when he found her at the end of ep 9 but he was dumb enough to leave her alone to scheme then so I suppose he’s now resorted to direct action.
I totally thought it was him with the umbrella at the end of ep 11 but then thought I was wrong, REALLY didn’t see that coming either!
When I saw the umbrella I knew it was him, but I thought Hyun Woo was going to comeback quickly, or at least, that Hae In was going to notice he wasn’t really Hyun Woo.
I didn’t expect her to actually get in his car. And I didn’t expect such an intense car chasing scene. That really scared me, I thought he was going to get away with it.
also the cars – they did well to keep the car chase cuts to prevent you figuring out right away that Hae-in wasn’t in Hyun-woo’s car (the one with the red top)
Eun-slimy bastard
Eun-slime
Eun-snitch
Eun-sociopath
Eun-psychopath
Eun-sicko
Eun-spy
Eun-shark
Eun-sleaze
Eun-suspicious
Eun-sentimental
Eun-substitute (attempted, in place of Hyun-woo, but Hae-in was NOT having it lol)
Eun-shocked
Eun-silly
Eun-stylish
Eun-sabotage
Eun-shady
Eun-son
Eun-schifo (pronounced ‘skee-fo’, means ‘yuckiness’ in Italian, thank you to Annie for that one)
Eun-spiteful
Eun-slug
Eun-Snape (named after a certain other character famous for an unhealthy obsession with a young woman who dgaf and married someone else, only for him to try to destroy her family too)
Eun-fire-ant (invasive species, destructive)
Eun-creep
Eun-bastard
Eun-delulu
Eun-delusional
Eun-@#$
Eun-trash
Eun-stereotypical
Eun-stalker
Eun-scammer
Eun-snoop
Eun-steal
Eun-separation (that’s what you get for lying to Da-hye)
Eun-sadistic
Eun-shut-the-hell-up
Eun-whatever
Eun-viper
Eun-skunk
Eun-stink
Eun-swindler
Eun-Sucks
Eun-misjudgement
Eun-sophistry
Eun-maniac
Eun-psycho
Eun-Smarm
Eun-scumbag
Oh, I do! 🤣
But yes, I think, if I didn’t know that I was PPL’ed all the time in K-drama, I maybe would only see what the rings say about their relationship, because yes, every shot of those rings say something meaningful, other than “Buy Bulgari Wedding Rings”.
I prefer wedding rings that are just a gold band, but apart from that, these rings are pretty nice, and look good on both of them. 💍
As opposed to the horror ring of King The Land. 🤢🤣
exactly – those lovingly shot close-ups of Hae-in and Hyun-woo’s rings aren’t promoting the rings, they’re about the relationship.
Also on a design level the Bulgari jewellery including the rings, is a great choice – distinctive but they look like legit rings that people would choose for themselves irl and not insanely branded or overly ubiquitous or, as you put it, a horror ring 🤣
truthfully I don’t even mind the on-the-nose moments, like Mistress Snake putting on a Serpenti necklace to do her version of villainous cackling! I mean, it was fitting.
I am pretty sure the close-ups do both things. They are very well written into the story. So it’s the best PPL Bulgari could wish for.
I am glad they don’t zoom in on them or work to let the camera focus so the ring stands out, like they did on those bracelets a lot towards the end of Destiny With You.
Like, even in a dark room where they were … you know, … that bracelet was catching the light and was the most visible thing. 🤣
@cecilieDK – it helps that wedding rings have a near-universal cultural and emotional significance across cultures, even when they are branded it’s not about the object, it’s about what it signifies.
And yes, you’re right that it does help that the camera treatment doesn’t give the rings the obvious PPL focus, which keeps attention on what they mean and not what they are – I’ve not seen Destined with You but that scenario sounds unintentionally funny 🤣
Queen of Tears shallow appreciation time: this is such a beautiful shot, helped along by the three beautiful people in the frame ā I mean, look at them!!
Especially Kim Ji-won <3
the power of two great actors (+excellent costume and styling work)! But they don’t even look like the same people who played Yoo Shi-jin and Yoon Myung-joo either, and that drama being a contemporary one, doesn’t even have the period fantasy costuming – it’s just Song Joong-ki and Kim Ji-won being chameleons.
Also that sometimes its difficult to watch the same actor in another drama because we liked their character in a drama so much that the other character seems like an alien.
Queen of Tears Episode 5 even bigger wallop to the heart, what utter devastation (also the credits are gorgeous and I knew I was right to never skip them)
Why did it feel like she had an abortion? Thatās the gist of what I got but also got confused when she cried but said āyou donāt deserve to be sadā. If she lost the baby why not tell him?
if it was an abortion it certainly wasn’t one she wanted at the time, Hae-in was obviously a happy and enthusiastic mother-to-be.
I can’t imagine her terminating her pregnancy unless it was a threat to her life and Hyun-woo is hardly likely to hold that against her, he only moves out of their shared bedroom once she (in his mind) callously dismantles the baby’s nursery – the fact that they’re not having a baby anymore is not news to him in that scene.
More Queen of Tears neckties(it’s SO GOOD to finally have a classic blockbuster kdrama that’s firing on all cylinders- and ugh Kim Soo-hyun/Kim Ji-won as a couple are amazing, chemistry 100/10)
Sorry to pick a random post to ask but have you recently become an Errand boy? If so good luck on your mission to get a roof top villa if not just ignore me being late to the party!
🥳Congratulations on your climb.
The levels are a reflection of your activity on the site. The frequency and consistency of your commenting leads to fast or slow climbs. So 2 or three comments per day on different posts leads to a quicker climb than 2 or 3 comments every couple of months. Some beanies spend years at each lower levels accruing lots of comments as they comment infrequently and others sail through in days or weeks.
Once you get to Errand boy you go from needing 2-300 comments per level to needing at least 2-3000 comments to get to the next level Rooftop room dweller so everyone feels the pain of trying to get out of that level. From Errand boy onwards it takes 1000ās of comments to climb so few beanies make it to the higher levels. If you want to know the levels I will attach a link in the next comment to the levels and other beanie info. Please ignore if you are not interest or reply and ask I will delete it.
damn, I have 13,000 comments (12,000+ of them before the big db redesign in 2017 so I guess they don’t count? lol). Thanks for the info it’s still interesting to know, this is the first time in a while I’m commenting regularly here again.
I am guessing that everyone started at Candy whatever their comment numbers were at the point of the new site being launched and then all the comments from then on counted towards the new levels. 1000+ comments to get to Errand boy is about right so you are on track. Most people just comment as and when and see their climb as something that just happens, others are more strategic. The fact that one drama has brought you to comment means that you will get lots of comments in while it is on as you have fun engaging with the other beanies live watching.
So in love with Queen of Tears and Hae-in’s style, literally the whole drama styling, lighting and coordi team seem to be v. into gleefully showing off Kim Ji-won’s exquisite beauty
No Vincenzo this week but yay for BangBangCon to fill the gap (even if I’m now teary at the sight of actual crowds of fans and having post-concert depression in a way I never did for actual concerts)
Same! Plus it’s 10x more fun to watch when you know millions of other fans are doing the same thing (some of these are on dvd but it just wouldn’t feel the same to rewatch later).
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 9:59 AM
Kim Ji-won coming up with the Queen of Tears couple name and being a PJE/KSH fangirl <3
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 14, 2024 at 11:05 AM
💖
loveblossomšø
April 14, 2024 at 10:30 PM
So cute!! Her couple name was creative and cool! š 👑👑
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 11:26 PM
ikr? The colour of love 😀
emsel
April 15, 2024 at 5:59 AM
So it really is Queen (Hae In) of Tears (Hyun Woo). Her couple name TT TT inverted to WW makes sense.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 15, 2024 at 6:38 AM
I love the way she thinks (and the drama credits/posters have the title presented to look like a crown too, love it)
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 13, 2024 at 5:14 PM
random thought but I don\’t think those shoes are PPL. There\’s no branding shown onscreen, they\’re identifiable only by the huge buckle (a RV signature) and no shots of a label or box. Not bad, QOT!
PYC
April 13, 2024 at 9:21 PM
PPL is now done more subtly than before. The Subway sandwiches are naturally blended in the outdoor bite scene of the lawyer trio in QoT Ep 11.
Neolttwigi
April 13, 2024 at 10:22 PM
I think the combination of budget and actors meant they could be picky about what they are willing to do for PPL. There is no branding shown for the Bulgari jewelry, and The Subway PPL is notable becasue we have the branding, but none of those cliched phrases about how tasty it is, or how you can choose your fillings.
Kim Soo Hyun has a lot of commercial contracts doesn’t he? I imagine that just getting him to eat a sandwich on screen costs a lot. I’m sure those shoes paid a placement fee.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 12:33 AM
the PPL is definitely not as jarring as Goblin or Signal-era Subway, but the Roger Vivier shoes strike me as very possibly not-PPL because the script actually makes a point of how they’re not Hae-in’s usual style, were on sale etc.
I mean, even Bulgari gets its branded necklace box shown onscreen when Hae-in is dressing up but the shoes practically got called ugly and cheap (albeit by the villain, the drama makes a point of presenting them as cute and modern) which is a rather unusual way to approach PPL but I appreciate it!
Reply1988 -ā£ļøMother Beanā£ļø
April 14, 2024 at 7:20 PM
The comments about the shoes are for those in the back who didnāt pay attention to them. Cars are rarely mentioned in dramas but we see the dashboard, interior and lots of angles of the exteriors. Mercedes are all over in this show, we even hear the distinct growl of the sports car. Some brands donāt need to be boxed or mentioned explicitly they speak for themselves. I bet the clothes, even secretary Naās 2 sec screen shot of her especially bought formal dress for work are all sold out the day the episode airs.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 10:49 PM
to be fair, when it comes to cars it’s impossible to avoid because there’s no car that comes without its logo on the front (I remember older kdramas actually blurring car grills because presumably those weren’t paid for) so they may as well take advantage of it. Whoever ran PPL on this drama has mostly been doing a really good job – Mercedes, Bulgari etc are brands that rich people would actually wear and use irl.
that said, re: clothes, Queen of Tears was shot over 2023 and delayed from its intended air date – if any of the clothes used onscreen were part of a seasonal collection (which is most of her outfits) they’re probably not available to buy any more but anything in a permanent collection like the Serpenti jewellery, is certainly going to see a lot more interest now.
Midnight
April 13, 2024 at 11:19 PM
Definitely PPL. Kdramas have for ever had ppl with no branding shown. The branding then goes around by word of mouth and social media.
Showing the branding and long shot scenes only shows the brand and/or the production agreed on a lot bigger figure.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 1:21 AM
this particular case is unusual because the shoes got all but called ugly and cheap in-show before becoming like couple talisman #2 (behind their wedding rings) which is not how I’ve known any PPL to ever go. Still smart of the production to arrange it that way and the brand to agree if they did.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 13, 2024 at 11:48 PM
Also it is a kind of treasure hunt – iykyk or else you ask. Win-win for the brand.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 1:15 AM
it’s actually the smarter way to approach product placement, if you ask me. Doesn’t irritate viewers, product still gets its airtime but in a way that fits in to the story rather than sticking out – wish more kdramas followed that way of doing things.
Neolttwigi
April 14, 2024 at 7:19 PM
The shoes had a prime shot with KSH holding both of them and presenting them. And then a shot of her wearing them. And Then a new shot of KSH putting them on her feet in Europe (And was that a different episode? I think so) And THEN they just happen to show up as an advertisement in Elle just coincidentally right when the episodes are airing…
That’s too much to be coincidental.
(Also, just think of the marketing effort behind that- Its probably a newly released shoe, which means that they would have had sample prototypes for filming. And then the ad would have been booked when they knew the broadcast schedule, 6? months ago.)
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 14, 2024 at 7:56 PM
Wow! That really puts things in perspective. Thanks. Indeed the behind-the-scenes work would have been incredibly hard.
Neolttwigi
April 14, 2024 at 8:12 PM
Also, I expect that the PPL fee does not get paid to the production company until the drama is broadcast, and not unless its broadcast in a reasonable time frame. Problems with the actors and it’s delayed, less or no money. They will be going to the advertisers with in-principle agreements about airing dates already in hand.
(Though at least wardrobe gets to use the shoes whatever happens)
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 14, 2024 at 8:56 PM
Eye opening RL stuff about the fairy tale drama. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Very insightful indeed.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 10:36 PM
to be clear – the image I posted of the show is from the March 2023 issue of Elle i.e. from one year ago (it’s my copy) so it’s not a newly released shoe as of QOT airing date.
It does however appear to be part of Roger Vivier’s permanent sneaker selection since it’s still visible on their website and currently available on Net-a-Porter, but if it was PPL – which is now likely – they were really smart about it, getting in shots with both leads holding/wearing the shoes in multiple episodes and in-drama dialogue drawing attention to them was a 10/10 marketing move by someone who saw a big picture beyond ‘show the name of the brand’.
I thought Bulgari did well at that with their wedding rings but along came episode 12 and we’re back to the old PPL playbook lol
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 14, 2024 at 10:43 PM
Integrating PPL in the storyline is definitely a skill set not known to many. 😂
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 11:28 PM
ikr? well played, QOT marketing/PPL department. I hope they got well paid (for the PPL and for their jobs)
Neolttwigi
April 14, 2024 at 11:17 PM
If its not a new release/recent ad, then there is more chance of actual coincidence/not PPL.
I think its PPL, (but I have been wrong before)
It’s more likely coincidence/not PPL if we saw evidence of empty marketing slots/ inability to attract PPL/ fake brands in the show. And I don’t think we have seen that at all. They are not going to give someone that much promotion for free when they have lots of people willing to pay.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 15, 2024 at 1:04 AM
Well Hyun-woo’s car is a Mercedes – we see the logo. His coat is Burberry, we see the distinctive lining when Hae-in hands over his coat and Eun-blah’s grey jumper is Thom Browne and we get lingering shots of his back to see the distinctive tag. All is is just from Episode 12. So the marketing team has indeed been busy wining and dining a lot of brands, even if Eun-want–to-have-dinner was left hungry also hangry!?
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 15, 2024 at 3:06 AM
The only ‘fake brand’ I can pinpoint here is Hae-in’s beloved Hercyna, which seems to be the QOT-universe version of HermĆØs.
which I can see the necessity for, as I doubt HermĆØs would ever have agreed to be prominently featured in a storyline where the heroine blackmails their president over an extramarital affair to get them into her department store lol.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 15, 2024 at 5:09 AM
@seeker lol he can Eun-starve for all I care but he does have nice outfits
Clothes are a bit of an unclear PPL area but the drama’s been smart with them in that all of the brands (obvious or not) are ones rich people would believably wear and not TOO obviously logoed. Like Hyun-woo’s coat lining and the TB in ep 12 and Hae-in’s full-look Dior princess outfit (complete with logoed belt) in ep 1 when she takes that helicopter to get her prince out of his pear orchard.
But 12 is the episode when they really kicked it up with the PPL, I couldn’t help but notice.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 15, 2024 at 5:17 AM
^^ True there are a ton of “real” brands discreetly placed in there.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 15, 2024 at 5:21 AM
I’ll be happy when he goes from Eun-starve to Eun-dead-as-a-doornail so that uri Park Sung-hoon ♥ can be reborn as a beloved swoony ML. 🤣
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 15, 2024 at 5:23 AM
I am now liking this iykyk brand treasure hunt. It keeps one occupied throughout the week! 😊
Neolttwigi
April 15, 2024 at 6:48 AM
I didn’t recognise any of the clothing brands in the show. š I know the names, but I never would have been able to tell a Burberry coat from the lining, or a Thom Browne jumper. (It is fun to read about, thanks) I’m really not the audience those brands are aimed at.
I do recognise Mercedes though.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 15, 2024 at 7:35 AM
I’m just treating it as a sort of a drama fun game! The reason I recognize most brands is because many years ago I used to do some work for a high-end shopping mall chain.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 13, 2024 at 5:09 PM
guess what I found in the March 2023 issue of Elle Korea
(bought it for the Call It Love pictorial, didn’t expect to find Hong Hae-in’s lost-to-Truck-of-Doom Roger Vivier shoes – ok, shoe! in there)
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 13, 2024 at 11:04 PM
Apparently they have been sold out in Korea!
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 1:21 AM
haha I am not surprised!
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 13, 2024 at 4:05 PM
no, really. Eun-screw-yourself for real (episode 11).
tabong has two different tearsš
April 13, 2024 at 4:09 PM
In only one episode he went from Eun-delulu, to Eun-psychokiller&kidnapper. 😒
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 13, 2024 at 5:04 PM
I mean I’m not even surprised about that part after episode 8, 9 or 10 but he’s truly Eun-asking-to-be-punched
tabong has two different tearsš
April 13, 2024 at 5:31 PM
After Hyun Woo punched him, I was like “yeap, he’s gonna kill him”, so calling that gangster didn’t surprise me, but the kidnapping really scared me for a sec. 😖 I didn’t see that coming.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 1:16 AM
I totally thought he was going to kidnap her when he found her at the end of ep 9 but he was dumb enough to leave her alone to scheme then so I suppose he’s now resorted to direct action.
I totally thought it was him with the umbrella at the end of ep 11 but then thought I was wrong, REALLY didn’t see that coming either!
tabong has two different tearsš
April 14, 2024 at 1:34 AM
When I saw the umbrella I knew it was him, but I thought Hyun Woo was going to comeback quickly, or at least, that Hae In was going to notice he wasn’t really Hyun Woo.
I didn’t expect her to actually get in his car. And I didn’t expect such an intense car chasing scene. That really scared me, I thought he was going to get away with it.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 13, 2024 at 11:07 PM
But seriously Kim Soo Hyun did so well … his entire body language changed.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 2:31 AM
I remember thinking ‘huh that’s a bit weird’ at how stiff he looked around her…..did NOT see that coming though!
I think we now know what the dreaded ‘next symptom’ is that she wanted him not to see her having.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 2:33 AM
also the cars – they did well to keep the car chase cuts to prevent you figuring out right away that Hae-in wasn’t in Hyun-woo’s car (the one with the red top)
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 14, 2024 at 3:20 AM
The reveal was well done too … seeing the reflection in the car window.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 11, 2024 at 11:32 PM
counted 53 different epithets across 3 recaps (for episodes 5-6, 7-8 and 9-10)
and maybe just came up with no. 54, thanks to Hae-in in ep 10 who just went Eun-screw-yourself.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 12, 2024 at 4:46 AM
👏👏👏👏 You are working hard indeed!!
Reply1988 -ā£ļøMother Beanā£ļø
April 12, 2024 at 1:16 PM
🫘Beansprout award🌱 that is excellent and the one I really relate too please show speed up his comeuppance and make it hurt.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 11, 2024 at 10:01 PM
am considering starting an encyclopaedia of every name @Unit/beanies have called Yoon Eun-seong in Queen of Tears recaps and comments (as of ep 10)
Eun-snake
Eun-spider
Eun-s.o.b.
Eun-squid
(contd.)
tabong has two different tearsš
April 11, 2024 at 10:36 PM
That’s one of my favorite things of the recaps! I love reading all the different nicknames.
I think I also saw Eun Skunk and Eun Stupid. 😂
And while watching the show O always call him Eun-delulu.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 11, 2024 at 11:22 PM
😂 Eun-skunk is one of mine, proud of that one
Eun-delulu is probably the most accurate for him last week lol he really thought Hae-in was having any of it, even under threat 😂
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 12, 2024 at 4:52 AM
That was mine!! 🤣
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 12, 2024 at 5:11 AM
you are officially genius 🤣
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 12, 2024 at 5:19 AM
🙈
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 12, 2024 at 9:02 AM
Er, … Eun-@#$ was mine too.
*runs to hide*
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 11, 2024 at 10:58 PM
Eun-slimy bastard
Eun-slime
Eun-snitch
Eun-sociopath
Eun-psychopath
Eun-sicko
Eun-spy
Eun-shark
Eun-sleaze
Eun-suspicious
Eun-sentimental
Eun-substitute (attempted, in place of Hyun-woo, but Hae-in was NOT having it lol)
Eun-shocked
Eun-silly
Eun-stylish
Eun-sabotage
Eun-shady
Eun-son
Eun-schifo (pronounced ‘skee-fo’, means ‘yuckiness’ in Italian, thank you to Annie for that one)
Eun-spiteful
Eun-slug
Eun-Snape (named after a certain other character famous for an unhealthy obsession with a young woman who dgaf and married someone else, only for him to try to destroy her family too)
Eun-fire-ant (invasive species, destructive)
Eun-creep
Eun-bastard
Eun-delulu
Eun-delusional
Eun-@#$
Eun-trash
Eun-stereotypical
Eun-stalker
Eun-scammer
Eun-snoop
Eun-steal
Eun-separation (that’s what you get for lying to Da-hye)
Eun-sadistic
Eun-shut-the-hell-up
Eun-whatever
Eun-viper
Eun-skunk
Eun-stink
Eun-swindler
Eun-Sucks
Eun-misjudgement
Eun-sophistry
Eun-maniac
Eun-psycho
Eun-Smarm
Eun-scumbag
bbstl š§¹
April 12, 2024 at 9:12 AM
👏🏽 outstanding!
bbstl š§¹
April 12, 2024 at 9:16 AM
Also, hats off 🎩 to @unit for creating so many and inspiring the rest of us!
bong-soo
April 12, 2024 at 4:47 PM
All fine as long as you skip āEun-seomā because that may bring a visit from Vincenzo.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 14, 2024 at 10:01 AM
hehe no one’s called him that so far. Eun-scum, though, yes.
tabong has two different tearsš
April 13, 2024 at 12:04 PM
I love “Eun-viper”!
Beanies are so creative. ☺️
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 12, 2024 at 4:58 AM
Very very impressive!! 👏👏👏
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 11, 2024 at 9:50 PM
more Queen of Tears wedding ring appreciation ❤️❤️
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 12, 2024 at 4:54 AM
Hand appreciation too!! ♥️😊
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 9, 2024 at 3:24 AM
trying to remember if this particular Queen of Tears costume has been seen already on Hae-in (honeymoon flashback?) or not yet as of ep 10?
Because I see a wedding ring -question is, past or future?
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 8, 2024 at 9:43 AM
anyone else watching Queen of Tears feel the urge to screencap every single lingering shot of Hae-in/Hyun-woo’s wedding rings or am I alone in this
(these just from ep 7 alone)
parkchuna ā¤ļøš
April 8, 2024 at 10:14 AM
Yep, I love all the wedding ring shots too
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 8, 2024 at 10:34 AM
It helps that the design is so distinctive, amazing how much can be communicated with just a shot of the hand.
Kurama
April 8, 2024 at 10:18 AM
Oh no, you’re not alone!
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 8, 2024 at 10:27 AM
phew I feel reassured
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 8, 2024 at 11:25 AM
No one is *ever* alone in Beaniedom. 😂
I love K-drama hand-holding scenes but hands with Bvlgari wedding rings are my latest and newest obsession.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 9, 2024 at 3:26 AM
most emotionally impactful PPL of all time (and seriously a genius idea because it doesn’t feel like PPL at all)
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 9, 2024 at 4:53 AM
True!
DK-Drama š«šImage of drama FL Character Deteriorationšŗšš±
April 10, 2024 at 4:22 AM
Oh, I do! 🤣
But yes, I think, if I didn’t know that I was PPL’ed all the time in K-drama, I maybe would only see what the rings say about their relationship, because yes, every shot of those rings say something meaningful, other than “Buy Bulgari Wedding Rings”.
I prefer wedding rings that are just a gold band, but apart from that, these rings are pretty nice, and look good on both of them. 💍
As opposed to the horror ring of King The Land. 🤢🤣
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 10, 2024 at 4:43 AM
exactly – those lovingly shot close-ups of Hae-in and Hyun-woo’s rings aren’t promoting the rings, they’re about the relationship.
Also on a design level the Bulgari jewellery including the rings, is a great choice – distinctive but they look like legit rings that people would choose for themselves irl and not insanely branded or overly ubiquitous or, as you put it, a horror ring 🤣
truthfully I don’t even mind the on-the-nose moments, like Mistress Snake putting on a Serpenti necklace to do her version of villainous cackling! I mean, it was fitting.
DK-Drama š«šImage of drama FL Character Deteriorationšŗšš±
April 10, 2024 at 7:43 AM
I am pretty sure the close-ups do both things. They are very well written into the story. So it’s the best PPL Bulgari could wish for.
I am glad they don’t zoom in on them or work to let the camera focus so the ring stands out, like they did on those bracelets a lot towards the end of Destiny With You.
Like, even in a dark room where they were … you know, … that bracelet was catching the light and was the most visible thing. 🤣
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 10, 2024 at 9:19 AM
@cecilieDK – it helps that wedding rings have a near-universal cultural and emotional significance across cultures, even when they are branded it’s not about the object, it’s about what it signifies.
And yes, you’re right that it does help that the camera treatment doesn’t give the rings the obvious PPL focus, which keeps attention on what they mean and not what they are – I’ve not seen Destined with You but that scenario sounds unintentionally funny 🤣
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 8, 2024 at 9:19 AM
Queen of Tears episode 7 end appreciation (once I stopped crying)
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 12:10 PM
Queen of Tears shallow appreciation time: this is such a beautiful shot, helped along by the three beautiful people in the frame ā I mean, look at them!!
Especially Kim Ji-won <3
DK-Drama š«šImage of drama FL Character Deteriorationšŗšš±
April 3, 2024 at 1:49 PM
Acknowledging beauty in a film is rarely shallow.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 11:04 PM
I appreciate the support 😉
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 6:59 PM
And all looking in different directions! 😂
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 11:05 PM
yes, it’s a seriously well-composed shot. 10/10 work from directors and cinematographers.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 6:07 AM
I appreciate their insane range as actors but the contrast is still quite something
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 6:55 AM
Whoa whoa!!
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 7:54 AM
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pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 8:02 AM
I know, right?! Even I’m startled by the difference between the two and that’s despite knowing both series.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 8:41 AM
Such different vibes. It’s difficult to believe they are the same people.
@claire2009 and I were just discussing how different Ahn Bo-hyun looks in Military Prosecutor Doberman vs. 19th Life.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 11:48 AM
the power of two great actors (+excellent costume and styling work)! But they don’t even look like the same people who played Yoo Shi-jin and Yoon Myung-joo either, and that drama being a contemporary one, doesn’t even have the period fantasy costuming – it’s just Song Joong-ki and Kim Ji-won being chameleons.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 11:57 AM
Chameleons sounds right. 🤭😂
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 8:42 AM
Also that sometimes its difficult to watch the same actor in another drama because we liked their character in a drama so much that the other character seems like an alien.
mmmmm
April 3, 2024 at 12:22 PM
Thatās why I always wait a bit until my feeling of adoration for the character subsides before watching the actor in another show.
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 6:45 PM
Good idea!! 😂
Bebe | Nessaā£ļø
April 3, 2024 at 8:52 PM
But that also speaks to their acting chops and range, right? 😍😍😍😍🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 10:12 PM
💯 Absolutely!! We as fans are lacking in our ability to appreciate an actor’s versatility and want to cling to our beloved character only. 😂
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 3, 2024 at 6:03 AM
I was prepared for Queen of Tearsā Song Joong-ki cameo
I was NOT PREPARED for it to be the return of Vincenzo!!!!!
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
April 3, 2024 at 6:56 AM
^^ 💯 same. 😍
mmmmm
April 3, 2024 at 12:23 PM
They do look good together.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 24, 2024 at 4:14 AM
Queen of Tears Episode 5 even bigger wallop to the heart, what utter devastation (also the credits are gorgeous and I knew I was right to never skip them)
RenOIshi
March 24, 2024 at 11:08 AM
Why did it feel like she had an abortion? Thatās the gist of what I got but also got confused when she cried but said āyou donāt deserve to be sadā. If she lost the baby why not tell him?
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 25, 2024 at 7:14 AM
if it was an abortion it certainly wasn’t one she wanted at the time, Hae-in was obviously a happy and enthusiastic mother-to-be.
I can’t imagine her terminating her pregnancy unless it was a threat to her life and Hyun-woo is hardly likely to hold that against her, he only moves out of their shared bedroom once she (in his mind) callously dismantles the baby’s nursery – the fact that they’re not having a baby anymore is not news to him in that scene.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 23, 2024 at 1:33 AM
might as well just admit it, these two got me, they got me GOOD, what an absolute wallop to the heart this scene was tho
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
March 27, 2024 at 9:41 AM
This whole episode seemed to have cranked up the EQ.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 27, 2024 at 3:26 PM
every episode after that has just been dialling the pain-o-meter even higher T_T
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
March 27, 2024 at 6:28 PM
😭 Also the anticipation … hope uri OTP talk and sort it out at that red light itself and don’t stretch their sulk any further. 😊
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 28, 2024 at 7:52 AM
I’d be surprised if they do tbh, I’d fully expect Hae-in to be hurt and furious. This weekend is going to be very frustrating!
šø Cera (@Seeker) šø
March 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM
Sigh … where is a time skip when we really need one. 🙈
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 17, 2024 at 1:34 PM
More Queen of Tears neckties(it’s SO GOOD to finally have a classic blockbuster kdrama that’s firing on all cylinders- and ugh Kim Soo-hyun/Kim Ji-won as a couple are amazing, chemistry 100/10)
Reply1988 -ā£ļøMother Beanā£ļø
March 26, 2024 at 6:11 AM
Sorry to pick a random post to ask but have you recently become an Errand boy? If so good luck on your mission to get a roof top villa if not just ignore me being late to the party!
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 26, 2024 at 6:33 AM
yeah I was a…fugitive? Until an hour ago and now I see I’m an Errand Boy? I have no idea how the levels progress but I’m game!
Reply1988 -ā£ļøMother Beanā£ļø
March 26, 2024 at 1:15 PM
🥳Congratulations on your climb.
The levels are a reflection of your activity on the site. The frequency and consistency of your commenting leads to fast or slow climbs. So 2 or three comments per day on different posts leads to a quicker climb than 2 or 3 comments every couple of months. Some beanies spend years at each lower levels accruing lots of comments as they comment infrequently and others sail through in days or weeks.
Once you get to Errand boy you go from needing 2-300 comments per level to needing at least 2-3000 comments to get to the next level Rooftop room dweller so everyone feels the pain of trying to get out of that level. From Errand boy onwards it takes 1000ās of comments to climb so few beanies make it to the higher levels. If you want to know the levels I will attach a link in the next comment to the levels and other beanie info. Please ignore if you are not interest or reply and ask I will delete it.
Reply1988 -ā£ļøMother Beanā£ļø
March 26, 2024 at 1:17 PM
Beanie resource Google drive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16vrpxsSwfc6FGA-8-ZXnzI9w3Ch7ebkm
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 26, 2024 at 1:31 PM
damn, I have 13,000 comments (12,000+ of them before the big db redesign in 2017 so I guess they don’t count? lol). Thanks for the info it’s still interesting to know, this is the first time in a while I’m commenting regularly here again.
Reply1988 -ā£ļøMother Beanā£ļø
March 26, 2024 at 2:22 PM
I am guessing that everyone started at Candy whatever their comment numbers were at the point of the new site being launched and then all the comments from then on counted towards the new levels. 1000+ comments to get to Errand boy is about right so you are on track. Most people just comment as and when and see their climb as something that just happens, others are more strategic. The fact that one drama has brought you to comment means that you will get lots of comments in while it is on as you have fun engaging with the other beanies live watching.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
March 17, 2024 at 1:26 PM
So in love with Queen of Tears and Hae-in’s style, literally the whole drama styling, lighting and coordi team seem to be v. into gleefully showing off Kim Ji-won’s exquisite beauty
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
December 1, 2021 at 8:05 AM
I am so not ready to say goodbye to this crew /cries
(also all my best dramas this year were ones I didn’t expect to love – Vincenzo, Squid Game – though that just made me cry a lot – & now WLDN)
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 26, 2021 at 12:35 PM
State of the downloads folder
#Vincenzo
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 18, 2021 at 12:37 AM
No Vincenzo this week but yay for BangBangCon to fill the gap (even if I’m now teary at the sight of actual crowds of fans and having post-concert depression in a way I never did for actual concerts)
Carolina
April 18, 2021 at 12:16 PM
I need another BBC. It’s so fun to watch them grow up on stage.
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deckš
April 18, 2021 at 4:47 PM
Same! Plus it’s 10x more fun to watch when you know millions of other fans are doing the same thing (some of these are on dvd but it just wouldn’t feel the same to rewatch later).