Beanie level: Errand boy

It’s been a long wait for the Long Yak, but we’re back! Come get a slice of Friday-unwinding with us!

This episode:
– We check out a whole lotta new dramas
– Group-gush on Rookie Historina Goo Hae-ryung
– Discuss the science of watching different stuff to bring variety to the yak
– Lament Sung Hoon – the good actor with bad projects 🤣

Timestamps:
00:01:33 – Live-action Mulan revisited
00:04:50 – Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung
00:26:39 – Love Alarm
00:34:54 – Melo is My nature
00:42:06 – Hell is Other People
00:45:09 – The Great Show
00:51:20 – A Moment at 18
00:59:46 – Class of Lies
01:01:14 – Welcome 2 Life
01:06:20 – Hotel Del Luna
01:11:33 – Level Up
01:21:13 – Watcher

โ€”Awesome Patrons who support usโ€”
Egads, Steven Blackmore, Lia W., Kimbap Noona, Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Jenmole, Saoirse10, Hamda, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi. Welcome to our new patron, Jojo!

Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
Twitter: @dramasoverflow
Email: [email protected]
Blog: akdramapodcast.wordpress.com

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Here we are, back again for a new What’s Up in Dramaland in September! We have a verrry special guest you mayyy recognise: @JustMe!

In news, we talk Gu Hye-sun/Ahn Jae-hyun divorce, divorce clauses in actor contracts, Song Joong-ki’s endorsements drop, and Mulan controversies. Then we take a look at upcoming September premieres and what we’re excited about!

Sadly @festerfaster couldn’t join us this time, but it’s her fault for skipping out, I say! (I kid, we missed you, come back!!)

What’s everyone else excited about for September?

I’m here for JOSEON MARRIAGE AGENCY, WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS, VAGABOND, A DAY FOUND BY CHANCE, and MELTING ME SOFTLY

…so basically all of them XD

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Also, Watcher-watchers, hold your hats, a second half review is coming up sometime in the following week…when I have a) watched the finale, b) probably lost my mind, and c) written the thing

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Okay folks, have you had your Friday fix of podcasty fun?
We talk:
– ROOKIE HISTORIAN GOO HAE-RYUNG
– DESIGNATED SURVIVOR
– HOTEL DEL LUNA
– LEVEL UP
– WATCHER
– CLASS OF LIES
– SEARCH: WWW
– UNREQUITED LOVE

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side question: is there any interest in a weekly thread for Watcher? (1-8 review is coming up)

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Ps don’t miss our latest (by which I mean it was kind of late, sorry) Long Yak?

We talk about many many dramas until we fall asleep/die.

Dramas:
Angel’s Last Mission
Perfume
Arthdal Chronicles
Abyss
Secret Life of My Secretary
Search WWW
Beautiful World (that is me! I love this show SO MUCH)
Her Private Life
One Spring Night (hey we’re not actually watching this but we decided to talk about it anyway)
Time Between Dog and Wolf (I talk about watching it for like 30 seconds)

+ a bunch of non-Korean stuff

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    I listened already. I loved Beautiful World too, but I think the evil chaebol portions were stereotypical and it didn’t fit with the subtlety and depth of the rest of the drama. It’s worth the watch just for the inspiration you’ll derive from the main family.

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Hello friendssss, new What’s Up in Dramaland is out! Guest-starring our very own beanie, Rimi (@greenfields). We talk Kang Ji-hwan, Korean-Indian Crossover sageuk, and lots of other snippets, plus August upcoming dramas.

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Aaaaaaahhhhh me and @festerfaster wrote things, lots of things, about Designated Survivor\’s opening week and why we loved it, come and read and share your thoughts!

Here: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2019/07/06/unboxing-designated-survivor-60-days-episodes-1-2/

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    I loved your take, maybe because I agree with it a lot ๐Ÿ˜‰
    I wonder if they’ll go with domestic terrorism route, there is a very strong opposition against peace talk with NK from right wing politicians so it would look plausible.

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      Thanks shach! I’m super curious about what happens next – can you believe I haven’t had a chance to watch more? ๐Ÿ™ Is it still good?

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    I’m glad you guys posted something, since DB isn’t going to recap. But maybe we could do the JBL thing where we find a post to hang all our comments off of?

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Another special episode, like you guys asked for! This is a special edition of WHAT’S UP IN DRAMALAND where we spend the whole ep discussing the Burning Sun scandal. And who better to bring it to you but your very own beanies?

Your favourite k-pop fans, @LollyPip and @greenfields (aka Rimi) round out our panel dissecting our feelings about the case. We talk about its implications for us as fans, as well as the broader culture and systems that support violence against women. Finally, we move on to talking about dramas, first in how quickly Burning Sun allusions start popping up in current, and second, shows that have had storylines disturbingly similar to the horrible real-life stories of abuse and exploitation.

Basically, the tl;dr version:
1) It’s a bad time to be a 2nd-gen kpop fan
2) It’s always a bad time to be a woman
3) It’s nearly always a good time to watch dramas

I think those were our main take-aways XD *wipes brow*

(As always, let us know your thoughts. We’re trying a lot of new things out here and your feedback helps us to figure out what we’re doing okay and what we need to work on.)

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    (The dramas section starts at around 52 minutes-ish, in case it helps)

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      also damn, missed the bestest opportunity ever to say ‘sometimes it’s hard to be a woman’ XD

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    Thank you!

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Hello friends!

You asked for more themed episodes! We’re working on it! This is our first ever collab, and it’s one that’s really special and personal to us, especially in the wake of the Christchurch massacre in NZ.

We sit down with the creators of the Riz Test (like the Bechdel test but for Muslim rep) and talk about it in the context of k-ent, as well as the historical presence of Muslims in Korea, and how media rep affects our experiences of daily life.

We’d really love your feedback on this one, and as always, we’re open to ideas and suggestions for other ways to expand the kdrama conversation. Tell us what you think!

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A slightly (um okay a lot) later Long Yak than usual (poor @festerfaster, our superhero editor, was knocked out with an ear infection ;_;). Hopefully you’ll find it was still worth the wait! I had no idea it ran this long but I just listened to it and it felt like it went by pretty fast!

TIME STAMPS:
00:01:46 – Romance is a Bonus Book
00:33:52 – Touch Your Heart/Reach of Sincerity
00:49:31 – Crowned Clown
00:58:44 – My Strange Hero
01:05:31 – The Last Empress (wrap up!)
01:25:35 – Orange Marmalade
01:28:09 – 1N2D*
NON KOREAN STUFF –
01:34:51 – Isn’t It Romantic
01:39:54 – 12 Monkeys
01:41:45 – Zindagi Gulzar Hai

Amazing Patrons who support us:
@egads, Steven Blackmore, Lia W., @KimbapNoona, @hades, Gracefulegg, Divina and special welcome to latest addition to patreon family, @jenmole!

Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers
Email: [email protected]
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow

* Just a note that this was recorded before the Burning Sun story broke, so I guess think of it as a time capsule podcast XD

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    I love long podcasts–well, within reason long podcasts! I’ll be looking out for the ep when it’s uploaded to YouTube.

    Ear infections are rough, especially when it hits you hard in the head and your balance. Hope you’ve recovered and feeling better @festerfaster.

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      I forgot to say, it’s cool that you guys are covering non-k-dramas as well.

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        Thanks for that. I was a little worried that the digression wouldn’t work for our listeners. =)

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          I watch Non-Korean dramas as well. It’s part of a healthy TV-diet, so I would be interested to know what’s good out there. That’s just me though. FYI, at least three of your other Patrons–@kimbapnoona, @jenmole, and I–watch C-Dramas. 😉

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            Haha! We (read: I) always want to cover at least one or two (or ten) things we’re watching outside of kdrama, but the biggest factor that keeps us from doing it often is time constraints! We block out a certain period for the recording but we aaaalllwwwwaaayss go hours over! (haha sob)

            The other thing is that sometimes we worry about digressing too far from what we’ve promised, so if we have a really meaty digression about something else, it’ll probably find its way into the outtakes. (Look out for some new ones soon – they’re coming, just as soon as I stop being sick!)

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            (a) stop being sick. 🙃
            (b) I get where you’re coming from with digressing. Makes sense.

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          I love to hear Paroma talk about c-dramas. She’s so passionate about them.

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    I’m so happy I’ll have company while I make dinner. Thank you.

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Hi everyone! I\’m looking for some podcast feedback — so far we\’ve been experimenting without asking the audience. We already cover a certain amount of ground between Long Yaks and What\’s Up (airing shows, industry news, previewing upcoming shows), and we\’ve got transcripts of the former (thanks to our wonderful volunteer-transcriber kdramadaydreamer). Is there anything that we\’re missing that\’s worth covering?

We\’ve got some thoughts and ideas of our own, about new stuff we want to try, but I want to know what *you* guys want to hear, and what kind of format is most appealing, whether you want to see more guests, what other topics are you interested in us covering, and so on.

Really want to hear your thoughts – please share!

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    I LOVE you guys. 😁
    For thoughts – I’d love hear some thematic episodes like the “Men Behaving Badly” special, which remains my favorite Dramas Over Flowers episode.

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      I second this. Thematic episodes are fun.

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      I third the thematic episodes. Like greenfields, Men Behaving Badly is a favorite. The themes don’t need to be heavy, but you all bring such interesting and insightful thoughts when you drill into details. Maybe even devoting an entire episode to really dissecting one drama. Talk about Korean films?

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      Agree. If you could do a part 2, especially now with the issues surrounding Seungri/Burning Sun and SOPA.

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      I’m beginning to think that the Jung Joon Young + Seungri scandal might be a interesting topic to cover. There is a lot to unpack there.

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    I agree with what @Greenfields said about the thematic episodes, I really enjoy those too.

    What I would find very interesting is to explore the difference between international viewers and local viewers. Why are certain dramas hugely popular on DB that had terrible viewing ratings? INAR is one that comes to mind.

    But if I think back at old DB podcasts that I liked, the ones where they snarked about terrible dramas were the ones that made me laugh the most. So if you guys want to have a monthly snarking session, I would happily listen to that.

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      Ah, we miss those episodes too. I don’t think our snark can quite match up to their level, but that’s basically what the Long Yak is at this point. XD But thanks for the idea. We enjoy doing thematic episodes too, and int vs local viewers is something we definitely want to explore.

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      I don’t know if I’m capable of high-grade snark – I peak at lowbrow humour and so-bad-they’re-good puns! I miss the old DB podcasts too. I still re-listen to them sometimes. I feel like we started this one to plug the gap for ourselves.

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        As the new editorial tone of this site seems to be Relentlessly Optimistic, I have snark-shaped hole in my life that I thought you guys could fill. But penguin jokes are good too

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    Guests can provide for interesting conversations.

    Is there anyway that you guys can timestamp the Long Yaks/ongoing show recaps like on YouTube. I click it and skip stuff I’m not watching or haven’t watched yet? If it’s already available, sry.

    As @greenfields and others indicated, your specials thus far were good. Would love to see more.

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      not specials but thematic episodes, my bad.

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      Hey @hades! So, the time stamps are always available in the description of any podcast app you use (or on YouTube). But when @saya or I post here, we forego the timestamps because in our head they’re already available in so many places, we assume people don’t want it shown yet again. But we’ll include it from here on. If not on the main fanwall post, then in the comment underneath it!
      Thanks for the feedback!!

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Okay guys, time for something newewewewewwww!!

If you’ve been following our monthly Long Yak, you might have noticed that our last few have been really way too long, and even we got exhausted doing them. We realised we were trying to cram too much into a single episode and ended up just trying to rush it all to fit it into a reasonable time, but still kept crossing the 2-hour mark – and 2 hours is faaar too long to ask someone to hang around for. Unbelievably, it’s been a whole year of Yaks, so there’s no better moment than now to introduce a second monthly episode: What’s Up in Dramaland?

In this segment, we’ll talk industry news and general k-ent fun, and wrap up with a look forward at the new dramas premiering this month.

It’s a short and snappy episode, I really hope you guys enjoy it! Tell us what you think and as always, we love feedback and are open to suggestions and ideas. It’s your support that’s made it possible for us to come this far, and all three of us (@festerfaster, @laica and I) are so grateful to this amazing community <333

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You know what your Friday needs? A LONG YAK.

@laica, @festerfaster and I discuss:
– CROWNED CLOWN
– SKY CASTLE
– LAST EMPRESS
– MY STRANGE HERO
– BOYFRIEND
– TOP STAR YOO BAEK
– MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA
– RED MOON, BLUE SUN
– MASTER OF STUDY (2010)

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    Is there a reason these can’t be posted as DB posts/podcasts?

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      This is an independent project by the three of us, not affiliated to DB in any way! (Feel free to spread the word and tell your friends to listen! We would sarang that very much <3)

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        I know it is independent. It is just that I always think it would have been a great addition to DB posts. Thanks.

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    can’t wait :).

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ughlfhlfkdfljss spitting furious about MoA !!!21213

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New year, new dramas, new Long Yak! @festerfaster, @laica and I catch up with each other about:
– MY STRANGE HERO
– BOYFRIEND
– LAST EMPRESS
– MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA
– RED MOON, BLUE SUN
– TOP STAR YOO BAEK
– MY AJUSSHI (ep1)
– VARIETY: MEN ON A MISSION, YOUTH OVER FLOWERS: ICELAND

If you like what we do, support us on Patreon!

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    It’s too bad none of you are watching SKY Castle! I’d love to hear your thoughts!

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      I was thinking of checking it out after hearing everyone rave about it, but I’ve had a hard time even keeping up with the stuff I’m already watching! I might just check out the first 2 eps for the next yak if I get a chance – just for you! <3

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        Awww, Saya, that’s so sweet of you! But we’re all only human and can only keep up with so many dramas, so don’t feel pressured to check it out if you don’t have the time! I’m only watching a couple of dramas, myself. 😅

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Things I have learned from Bok-Seung-ho: Recapper\’s gonna recap, even if it\’s on twitter, wherein I watch My Strange Hero 15-16 and promptly lose my mind.

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In case you missed it, @laica, @festerfaster and I did a podcast episode looking back on 2018 – hits and misses and other stuff. Youtube version below!

TIMESTAMPS:
00:03:00 – 2018 retrospective
00:10:10 – Paromaโ€™s Honorable Mentions
00:27:43 – Anisaโ€™s Honorable Mentions
00:29:56 – Sayaโ€™s Honorable Mentions
00:38:49 – BEST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:25:33 – WORST DRAMAS OF 2018
01:41:59 – Great Dramas We Missed This Year
01:51:25 – Non-2018 Dramas We Watched This Year
01:54:34 – Best Non Korean Dramas of 2018

hey I bet nobody can guess my favourite drama of 2018. I’ve played this one VERY close to the vest amirite @vivanesca

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    listened to it the minute it dropped. pack your bags I’m taking you away from your toxic friends!!! YSH overacting WHERE
    happy new year!

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      I knew you’d have something to say about it. I’m enjoying your true love as Bok Soo.

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      I think between this episode and the Healer deep dive (not yet released), @saya has lost all faith in @laica and me. XD

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        Am I going to have to plug my ears to avoid hearing any less than gushing comments?

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          hahaha. probably a bit. I swear, I feel so guilty afterwards, I should just shush up during these episodes. *hides face in shame*

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            I’ll have the mute button ready. 🙉 The teenaged girl in me thinks it’s the perfect drama. Stalking, what stalking?

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            Uh oh. We might have to do a lot of apologizing once it drops!

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          forewarned is forearmed! and to be fair, all their comments were, well, fair. I just didn’t feel the same way XD

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      thank you @vivanesca I don’t know what I would do without your friendship. let’s go, I’m ready!

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    I listened to it too. I agree with @laica‘s number one pick, given that none of you had watched My Ajusshi. I think if you were able to watch Mother, you will be able to watch My Ajusshi. I think of it as a slow watch, but as it goes along it has more humor so it was an easier watch for me.

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      I have since watched episode 1 of My Ajusshi. It was a tough watch to be honest, but it also gave me Misaeng vibes, so I have a feeling I’ll love it by the end.

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        I’m pretty sure you will. It’s rough at first, but some humor comes through eventually.

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Last Long Yak of the year guyyyysss!!! Join us for one last yammer in 2018!

If you haven’t checked us out yet, check us out! I promise we are lolarious and insightful! (haha excuse me while I go and hide in the toilet now and laugh loud and long at this flagrant lie XD)

This Yak we talk about:

00:02:09 – Email: How to get involved in the Kdrama Fandom?
00:11:26 – Patreon shoutouts!

CURRENTLY AIRING:
00:27:27 – TOP STAR YOO BAEK
00:45:13 – CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW
00:56:37 – RED MOON BLUE SUN
01:01:55 – MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA

COMPLETED DRAMAS:
01:13:14 – WHERE STARS LAND/FOX BRIDE STARS
01:30:25 – TERIUS BEHIND ME
01:34:46 – FAMILIAR WIFE
01:36:02 – BEAUTY INSIDE
01:46:15 – THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES

UPCOMING DECEMBER DRAMAS:
01:52:29 – Fates and Furies
01:52:36 – Coffee Please
01:57:15 – Just Dance/ Dance Sports Girls
01:59:17 – The Return of Revenge

A HUGE HUGE HUGE THANK YOU to our amazing wonderful beanie Patreon patrons. It means so much to us that you’re supporting us this way!

If you haven’t signed up yet and are interested in helping us out, check out our still-shiny new Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

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Also, we spend the better part of 40 minutes on the Dramafever debacle, here are the timestamps for that discussion:
07:36 – reasons for shutting down
09:44 – kdrama license war
13:37 – netflix in the game
15:01 – ethics of viki’s subbing practises
20:33 – DramaFever’s shady beginnings
00:26:32 – Access to KDrama outside US

(youtube version below!)

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