Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

Finally started Prison Playbook. On episode 4. It’s good! Don’t know why I waited so long to start watching this.

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    I was meaning to start this drama but was keeping it off because of the super long episodes. Maybe will start this week.

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      It’s really good! And the episodes are long but a lot happens each episode. It doesn’t feel like the episodes drag on.

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      Would recommend it highly. Give the first 4 episodes a chance and then u will be hooked for sure

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    I tried this twice but failed to make it past ep.2. I hated the prison atmosphere and its bathrooms. I didn’t know why I had to see such scenes so I quitted watching both times. I might check it again if some can confirm that there are no prison bathroom scenes in the future eps.

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      There are a lot of prison bathroom scenes unfortunately…

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      This is the first time I’ve seen a beanie who hated PP like me. I feel kinda relieved. I finished it, and still hated it immensely.

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        Hi Midnight. Have you tried Nevillera? I like it very much perhaps you’ll like it too.

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          No I haven’t! Looks very interesting. Thank you for the recommendation.

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    Its my favvvv drama! You will loveee it am sure

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      It’s my fav drama as well! I was’t ok with all the things happening in the prison, too much stress for me but I’m glad I continued and when I finished it I was like “ why on earth did I wait too long to watch this masterpiece?!”

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    Yaaaay! I love that drama!

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Jung Kyungho is adorable

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    Kyungho 🤣 😂 🤣

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      He has a surprisingly aegyo-filled personality in real life. Very different from his girlfriend.

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    This was hilarious! How adorable are they?

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    I died after they passed and he was still trying to get his head wrapped about the last word with what he knew. The “Hot Mess Team,” indeed! They were hilarious!

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      My poor baby YYS. His frustration was palpable.

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    To think he actually claimed to be good at it! 😂 JKH seems more like the maknae, he’s so affectionate and clingy.

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      Yes! His personality is so unlike most of the characters he’s portrayed. Interestingly, he’s both irascible and cute in a maknae sort of way. How is that possible?

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This needs to be subbed!

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    We do!!! I watched it raw, but I need it subbed 😭😭😭

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      I laughed so much, even though I understood only perhaps 40% of the Korean. Hopefully, somebody will do us a solid and translate this.

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I\’m currently re-watching Hospital Playlist. It occurs to me that the portrayed age difference between Gyeo-wool and Jeong-won is pretty significant! Jeong-won was born in 1980, so he\’s 40 (international age) in season 1. Gyeo-wool is a third year resident. Assuming she entered university at age 18, that would mean she\’s 27 (international age). 13 year age difference!

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    That makes me a bit uncomfortable but then Gyeo Wool is a mature adult so I am less icky about it

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    It depends how things are on every country, in mine she would be one year older (6 years for the degree, one year at least to pass the exam to choose speciality and then three years of residence). She can be around 30. I don’t like that age gap but they are both grown up adults and don’t have a direct teacher – student relation.

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      Yeah, I’ve just assumed it was right around a 10 years age difference. That seems like a lot, but at least they are both adults.

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        I think it’s probably closer to 13 tbh. My understanding is that, in Korea, it takes 6 years after high school to complete medical education. Assuming she entered university at 18 (not an uncontroversial assumption, since it’s not uncommon for Korean students to enter a few years later in order to get through the competitive university admissions process), she would be done formal schooling at about 24. Assuming the intern year is year 1 of residency (that’s how it works in North America, at any rate), she would be 26 or 27 in her third year of residency.

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          But isn’t it that they finish high school when they are 20? At least that’s what I learned from all the dramas I watched…

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            Well, 20 or 19 in Korean age, which is about 18 in international age.

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    The last time I rewatched this weeks ago I realized the same thing. When Ik Jun said something about being 40… and then it hit me that Jeung Won is also 40 and since Gyeo Wol is still a resident she would be 29 or 30 for sure… there is a 10 year age diff for sure. Kinda irked me a bit but then since GW is an adult I kinda overlooked it the other way.

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      Once you get into your 30’s, age gaps don’t really bother me. I’ll just assume she’s 29 or 30.

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        My parents have are about 12 or 13 years apart in age, so its not a big deal (although my mom got married when she was 18 or 19 and had my brother when she was 21, so ummm). That said, I think age differences don’t matter to me much if they’re on the order of like five or six years. But a 10+ age difference is pretty big IMO, even in your thirties.

        Tbh, though, the age difference is probably less concerning than the fact that he’s a professor (and her sometimes boss) and she’s just a resident. That seems a lot more concerning. He has the power to influence the trajectory of her career. Hardly seems like situation of relative equality. When the age difference gets thrown in, it starts looking super concerning.

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          Yeah i’m more concerned about the workplace romance because of the boss – staff/jr dynamics. I don’t mind age gaps much unless it’s of the below age variety or the really young to really old range like 20s with 40s or 50s. But that’s mainly becos i worry about the power dynamics of the couple or if they have ulterior motives.

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        There gap between 20 and 30 is bigger than the one between 30 and 40 or 40 and 30.
        I always say this: I’m only four years younger than my sister, but that age gap was huge until I was more or less 20c and then suddenly disappeared.

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          Hmmm, I’m five years younger than my brother and now officially in my late 20s. The gap still seems pretty big with us, although part of this may have to do with the fact that my brother and I are not very close.

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            My oldest and youngest siblings are 7 years apart and it’s still a big deal for them even though we’re all in our 30s, but I think that’s more to do with the kind of people they are than the age gap itself. I’m five years older than the youngest and it was huge when we were kids but it’s nothing now.

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            Yes, I imagine it differs from sibling to sibling. I think one thing about having a bigger age difference is that it potentially multiplies the possibility that there will be less common ground between siblings. Thus, when older, even when the age difference itself is less significant and even when the siblings may be at similar places in life (when I was young, a five year age difference meant I was in elementary school when my brother was in middle school, in middle school when my brother was in high school, in high school when my brother was doing his undergrad, in undergrad when my brother was in med school, and in law school while my brother was working as a resident; however, now in my late thirties, my brother and I are both in a stage of our lives where we’re working adults who’ve completed our schooling), the cumulative effect of that lack of common ground can often mean the siblings end up being very different people. Any way, that’s how it is for me and my brother.

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            Sorry, the above comment was directed at you, @beffels, although of course I always welcome your thoughts as well @eazal

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            in my late 20s***

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            @smaltwalt 😂 suddenly aging yourself ten years!

            Yeah agree – that lack of common ground can be hard to bridge, in my family the oldest would have been at university while the youngest was still at primary school, and then away working so they would never have spent that much time together, and they are very different people so they don’t spend much time together now.

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          When i entered uni at 18 i thought the 21/22 yr old seniors were old and called them eonni eventho we were friends in the same class. A few years later i was the senior with younger classmates calling me eonni and suddenly i realised being in 20s is not old at all 😅

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First episode of Lots of Advice that was actually funny and worth watching (the other episodes were about playing video games–not exactly fun exhilarating watches).

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What\’s the projected date of arrival for Hospital Playlist 2?

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    There’s a rumor of early May broadcast (the rumor is kind of true sometimes). I’m kind of leaning to June broadcast because they decided to release Wise Camping Life with the intention of not releasing it in the first place, meaning that the production are delayed yet again. I hope the rumor is true because I cannot wait anymore 😂

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    Not soon enough. Doesnt it keep getting pushed back?

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Hmm, mixed thoughts about today\’s episode of Vincenzo. On the one hand, it was funny and entertaining as usual. On the other hand, it irked me that the one openly gay character that has so far been introduced in this show is a predator. I\’m not saying I only want positive depictions of LGBT characters. That would be unrealistic. A gay person can be good or bad, just like anybody else/ Accepting this is what is needed in order for gay characters to be seen as fully human, just like every other character. That said, I feel like the \”gay man as abuser in intimate contexts\” is a trope I\’ve seen too much of. If you\’re going to make him a baddie, can\’t you make him a baddie that doesn\’t assault potential romantic partners on dates? Is that really too much to ask? You could have still had the entire arc with Vincenzo duping him; the fact that he assaulted people on dates was just a convenient thing that was used to blackmail him/put him in jail. Couldn\’t they he have committed and then covered up some other crime instead? It would\’ve likely have had the same effect and wouldn\’t have jeopardized the story.

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    The same… It broke my heart to see him reduced to that state. The bashings and his treatment of Vincenzo’s mother and his silence about the death of his father were used to justify his “punishment”.

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      Yes, I thought this was very risky humour. It ended up being funny, but yeah, I think it was super also uncomfortable to watch a person’s romantic feelings — especially a person whose romantic feelings are the subject of so much stigma and shame, particularly in more conservative countries like SK — be toyed with in this way.

      I don’t want to be too nitpicky or anything, but I found Vincenzo’s horror and disgust over having to feign attraction for the bank CEO sort of off-putting, too. Why is it so revolting? Sure, men might not be Vincenzo’s thing, but then it’s just another con job, along with the many other cons he and Cha-young have been perpetrating. Why make this acting assignment “beyond the line”? Many gay men and lesbian women spend significant chunks of their lives having to pretend to be straight; in some cases, they get married to opposite sex people because of social pressure or because the consequences of being out are too heavy to bear. So why is it suddenly so beyond belief when, for selfish gain as part of a con, a straight man has to pretend to be gay? Like nobody was asking Vincenzo to sleep with the bank CEO or something.

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        Imagine an alternate universe where Vincenzo, still played by Song Joongki, is actually a gay character, Cha-young is a male rather than a female, and Vincenzo impersonates a straight dude to get on the good side of a female bank CEO. That would be so much fresher than this take they gave us?

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        It’s “so revolting” because of the anxiety that there may be actual attraction.

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    I agree with this. It’s 2021 now and I think people should be more and more educated that gay people are like other people (I think): They can be an abuser or an abused. They’re ordinary people IMO.

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    Agreed. While I’ve commented on folks’ posts that Kim Sungchul was amazing this episode, I do agree that that fact is separate from the character itself and the depiction of a gay character. I’m also uncomfortable with thr fact that Vincenzo was shown to be so against “seducing” Minseong. While he never said its because Minseong is a guy, and it could just be that he wouldn’t want to do even with a woman, that wasn’t the impression i got. It seemed like the show was unnecessarily emphasizing to the audience that the main lead is straight, dont worry.

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      I think it has to be because Minseong is a guy. Vincenzo was okay with flirting with that doctor in episode 7. Granted, he’s doing more than just flirt a bit with Minseong, but still.

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You know what, I really don\’t care that Vincenzo is insane beyond belief, that the baddies are cartoonish, and that some of the actors are just meh. I\’m having a blast watching this show and I admire Song Joongki for putting in such a consistently good performance. It\’s not the best thing, but I enjoy every minute I spend watching this show and look forward to it every weekend.

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    Me too!!! I don’t know it the show will be able to keep up this way for 20 episodes, but I enjoy every minute of the long episodes.
    It’s fun, it’s the only thing I know.

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    The two episodes from this weekend were a real hoot.

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So apparently this is a movie that actually exists
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    The title and the upside down picture are very intriguing. What a way to market movie!🤣

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Really interesting musical analysis of “Don’t Call Me”. Spoiler: Turns out SHINee sang a way weird song.

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Re duck scene, KDY is such a maknae. Also, I’m not the only one who was secretly hoping Taec would go through with it, right?

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This weird stuff by Vincenzo about how he\’s a devil punishing another devil makes me think of Proudhon for some reason.

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Literally just SJK being a hilarious oldie. I was waiting for him to start saying latte (라떼는 말이야).

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For Beanies like me who love the Heart Signal series, there\’s a spin-off series currently airing called Friend. It\’s really good! You don\’t need to have watched the original series to enjoy it.

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Honestly, Vincenzo is such a cheesy, weird show. It\’s entertaining, but, umm, not exactly the best thing.

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I know it\’s probably like the least sketchy thing they\’ve done, but it still rankles me that Hong Cha-young and Vincenzo Cassano are representing plaintiffs in a lawsuit where the alleged tortfeasor is a former client of Cha-young\’s. Screams conflict of interest.

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    It does. It’s unethical (as much as setting Babel’s building on fire, or kidnapping police officers) as she has inside intel from the company that she could use against it.
    In real life she would have probably signed a confidentiality agreement so she can do what she’s doing now, unless she payed a real high fee or even get criminal charges, BUT this is dramaland and the show is not taking itself too seriously, so let’s enjoy the ride!

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      Hmmm, in the jurisdiction where I work, she would have to get consent from a former client to work on a case against the former client and the case touches on or is related to work she’s done for the former client. Even with a confidentiality agreement (where I work, confidentiality would between lawyer and former client would exist unto perpetuity, regardless of whether a confidentiality agreement formalized the duty owed to the former client), the jurisdiction I work in is pretty strict about avoiding conflicts of interest. The organization which regulates lawyers in my jurisdiction would be hounding Cha-young for this as well as for her other misdeeds.

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Return of the WYWS hair! It still looks good on him. Also, wow @ those forearm veins.
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    Maq, he looks good whatever.
    And yes, those arms!

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      Agreed, he’s just so good-looking! LOL. Man is too cute for his own good.

      I always thought he was pretty scrawny, but those arms make me think otherwise.

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Okay, I like Vincenzo. It\’s fun and wacky! Ok Taecyeon can\’t act for his life (though it pains my heart to say) and I just don\’t see a plausible loveline between Cha-young and Vincenzo (side note: if they were going to use an Italian, why not go for a more reasonable name? Vincenzo is so ugh.). That said, SJK is great, the comic timing in this show is working for me, the side characters are fun, and there\’s enough emotional heft for me to feel like the show isn\’t stuck in one emotional gear. Is it the best thing I\’ve watched? Not so far. But I\’m gonna stick with it.

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    WHAT are you saying?
    ML with mom and dad issues and a FL who was brought up in a house full of love..

    the calm and composed ML and the crazy, shouting, korean candy (who does wrong but will be forever good vs ML stepping out of line itsy bitsy warranting the wrath of drama world)…

    if this is not made for each other in kdrama heaven , then i don’t know what is 😛

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    THANK GOODNESS for no love line!!! I was dreading that when I watched ep1. I am yet to catch up with ep2, but this was the only one of the 3 premieres I watched that seemed remotely entertaining!

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      Well, to be clear, when I said I don’t see a plausible love line, I meant something more along the lines of, “If the give me a romance between these two, I’m going cry.” LOL. I think there will be a romance though, tbh, based on the ending of episode 2.

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        Oh no. Darn it. Some shows are best without romances. When will kdramas get that.

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          Or give us a romance with a side character, i.e. relatively insignificant overall, rather than between leads if there has to be a romance.

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        But this writer is great with no love line or just the merest hint of it.

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      Well, I hate to say it, but I read somewhere (some wiki, I don’t know which one) that ML falls in love with FL…

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    Taec still can’t act? Damn, what a waste of drama character. I have been avoiding his dramas but he had starred in several dramas with genres that I could not miss.

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    What’s wrong with Vincenzo as a name, though? 👀

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      I just think it’s not a good name? I don’t know. It certainly doesn’t fit SJK.

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        The name is quite a mouthful. I wonder how he came up with it.

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        Ah! Got it! ^^

        Though it would be kinda hard for any Italian name to really fit SJK, after all ahah!

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      I’d prefer Vinny or Vin but it’s hilarious when Koreans try to pronounce Vincenzo.
      I think it’s working as intended.

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        I think this might be part of the problem. Whenever I hear other Korean characters pronounce his name, I can’t decide whether I want to collapse into giggles or retch.

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      It’s not so common in Italy nowadays. It’s considered out of fashion and too “heavy”.

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        Same happens in Spanish, you barely would hear a boy younger than 40 being called Vicente / Vincenzo.

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        Mmh..It never sounded weird to me 👀
        What names do you think would have fit better?
        (Not Luca, that is taken already, these days xD)

        ..I don’t know, I feel like Vincenzo is good considering they are using it as a title for the drama too, it’s indeed more unique than others, but that works, in this case 🤔

        To each their own, though ahaha! It’s just personal taste after all ^^

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          Good question. I don’t know what name would’ve been a better fit.

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    Taec looks so cute that I can look past the weak acting

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    I honestly think it would be best if this show will not have a loveline. Vincenzo has enough issues to deal like his mom and criminal underworld kind.

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    Taec can’t act, but as long as I can laugh with him I’m ok.
    If he’s evil CEO I hope he goes for a comedic evil CEO (although hockey sticks and all that stuff was a bit scary).
    It also hurts me to say he’s such a terrible actor…

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      I’ve only seen Taec in Wonderful Days as the very young father of adorable twins – I thought he did okay.

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        I tried to watch The Game Towards Zero, but it was a big mess, and his poor acting didn’t help.
        In Save Me, he’s ok, but probably because he got less screen time and the drama is totally stolen by Seo YeaJi and Woo DoHwan.

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Yasss

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