Beanie level: Errand boy

I love Ha Jae Yi so much already. She’s hot tempered, quick witted and takes no s***, but she also has a lot of heart. I think she’s gonna give our lawless lawyer a good run for his money.

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    “You’re going to pay for this!… Wait, isn’t he coming to rescue me?”
    I love them together already.

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      I loved that scene so much !
      I have to admit I was a little worried about how well matched Seo Yeji would be with Oppa, since out of 3 dramas I’ve watched with her I only liked 1 which was Rescue Me . But as it turns out I needn’t have worried they have wonderful chemistry and are obviously having a rocking time in this drama.

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Ooh, I think Lawless Lawyer is gonna be a fun ride.

The chemistry is already crackling between the leads and the rest is slick and fun with a good dose of revenge and political intrigue.

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Ramadan Mubarak to my fellow bean friends who are also celebrating!

And to all other bean friends, I hope you have a happy month as well!

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    So, I have a theory: Min-ho and Bo-young were the leads of this drama.

    Yes, drama law says that leads have to get together. But who cares? I loved seeing both their journeys. Watching them move into new stages of adulthood and maturity was lovely, and I’m glad that they healed their friendship. I wish we’d had a touch more Min-ho and Nam-woo in the end but I’m not mad at what we got.

    Because at the end of the day, this was all about my girl, Bo-young and her journey. I’m so glad she got the much deserved full time position. She has clearly built a family here, and their joy at her accomplishment was so real. Watching her gain that confidence in herself was beautiful over these final two hours. She has always known she’s capable and good at her job, but to have that validated by a position makes it better. Sometimes that is needed.

    And, yes, while I still don’t really care for Dr. Ye, I am glad that they’re together, because obviously they’re happy. Isn’t that all that matters? If only they had given him a personality. I did enjoy watching him struggle to human. But I do have to say, does he not realize that he created that rift? Anyway, not gonna dwell on it. We got lots of cute smiles, and I hope that Lee Joon-hyuk has a better role in his next drama.

    Not going to talk about Min-ho at length, because I think I’ve said most of what I want to say on the subject. My only real quibble with the episode was the attempt to shoehorn in this idea that one doesn’t want to be embarrassed in front of the person they love. It just felt like the writer’s lame attempt to explain why Min-ho wasn’t going to be with Bo-young. We knew he wasn’t because she didn’t like him. Done. Why was this necessary? But I’ll end my quibble there.

    I do feel like the drama feels a little incomplete, and there are so many dangling threads with the side characters that I wish had a little more resolution. But all in all, it was a satisfying drama. The use of poetry was wonderful, the direction was strong, the casting was spot-on. I’m probably not going to rewatch anytime soon, but I’ll remember it fondly.

    Good-bye Poetry.

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      Word.

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      I’m a bit late to this but re. Them being the Leads- I actually had the same thought myself (unsurprising you’ve ways perfectly expressed my thoughts on this drama haha)
      We knew more about Min Ho, we heard his voice more, his perspective more, he had the biggest arc after Bo Young, and even if they didn’t get together they still felt like the leads. Dr. Ye was just her love interest.

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        I actually have no problem with this either. I would love to see more dramas like that — leads who have wholly separate development arcs but are in the same environment. It’s great to see the contrasts between them, because they both had arcs that were about growth and maturity, albeit different types. I almost wish there hadn’t been any shipping at all; just BY with Ye, and Min-ho doing his thing. I wouldn’t even have minded him having a crush on BY — just as long as it didn’t define his arc. (Which, tbh, is the weakest part of that arc for me.)

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          Yessss so much yes. Except now I’m just sort of re-imagining this drama were all of this was more obvious and better executed.

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Not gonna lie, watching Dr. Ye try to take an interest in people was like watching a robot with faulty programming try to human. I would’ve LOVED to have seen more of this development earlier.

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OK, so I also have to say, I loved this moment.

Did Dr. Ye actually show a spark of personality and partake in the sass? Where was this dude the entire series?

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I’m talking about my girl Bo-young today.

See you in the comments.

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    OK, so today I’ma talk about my girl, my magical, beautiful, rainbow unicorn Bo-young.

    I’m so glad we got back to focusing on her. On what she wants in life. In overcoming her insecurities. For being insecure. For being sad and disappointed. For not saying the polite thing but the right thing. For being empathetic but also acknowledging that she hurts too. For finally finally finally spending some of her tears on herself.

    There was a lot to unpack today. I agree that if she can’t be herself around Dr. Ye, it’s a problem. It doesn’t mean the relationship is doomed, but part of me thinks that she needs time to focus on herself. I’ve said before that I think dating Dr. Ye would be good for her but ultimately unsustainable if they kept building on the foundation established. It’s now time to either reinforce that foundation or take it down before getting too high and toppling over. He’s taken down his walls for her; it’s her turn to decide whether she can do that for him, and also for herself.

    I think we’re finally reaching that fork in the road. Either Bo-young opens up to Dr. Ye shows him her warts and learns to love them herself (because I 100% believe he doesn’t care about them), or she takes the path to getting rid of them alone. (Sorry for mixing my metaphors.) I’m OK with either road. I only want her to take the one that she feels is best for her. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a companion to support you on a hard journey. But there’s also nothing wrong with wanting to do it alone. This is where there’s a contrast to both our young characters’ journeys for me: Min-ho’s journey to accepting himself requires solitude; Bo-young’s does not.

    I loved Bo-young’s outburst at the interview. It was everything she needed to say. We know she’s capable and strong and can stand up for other people when she wants to. It’s nice to see her doing that more for herself now.

    But the thing that I loved the most was seeing her cry in the jjimjilbang. It was the first time she’d really cried for herself. She cried happy tears a lot, but for every one of her disappointments and let downs she just internalized her sadness and didn’t let it out as much as she did for others. Crying for herself shows us that she’s starting to see herself as valuable. And I have to say, I truly think this is something that happened because of Dr. Ye and the way he treated her. (I still would’ve preferred he be a mentor, but I’ll let it go.)

    Anyway, I just hope tomorrow, if nothing else, we see Bo-young finish this journey. More than anything I’ve been rooting for her this entire series.

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      “There’s nothing wrong with wanting a companion to support you on a hard journey. But there’s also nothing wrong with wanting to do it alone. ”

      This! 😊 Couldn’t agree more! I’m a YeLiner but I’m going to support BY on whatever choice she’ll make.

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        I’m neutral, and I think I’ve made my feelings on Dr. Ye pretty clear (not a fan, but can’t hate him either), but honestly he stepped up a little this episode. I still don’t think they work, but I do think he’s necessary to her growth, if that makes sense? Which is why I’m not opposed to her deciding to lean on him. In the end I’m Team Bo-young no matter what.

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Well s*** you guys.

I have a lot more thoughts than I expected about this episode.

(You know the drill. Meet you in the comments.)

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    Let me start by saying I do not condone any of Min-ho’s behavior today.

    He was petty (and not in the funny way), obnoxious, bratty, spoiled, and childish.

    But he was also heartbreaking. He broke my heart because he acted like this, and it sort of took me back to a time when I was a terrible, bratty, obnoxious teenager, really.

    Again, not condoning this behavior. It’s never ever OK to lash out at others when you’re hurt. It’s a shitty thing to do.

    BUT. Here’s the thing. I don’t think he was acting this way because he was being rejected by Bo-young (essentially in his mind). I think he acted this way because he felt like he was losing the affection of another person in his life who meant something to him. Losing Bo-young because she’s with Dr. Ye maybe scared him because we already know that he’s not valued by his family, and we know how deep that cuts. I think more than anything he’s scared of losing Bo-young as a friend than as a crush.

    Here’s why: Min-ho has known from the start that Bo-young liked Dr. Ye. That wasn’t going to change just because he confessed. (He of all people knows that a confession doesn’t mean the other party will like you back.) Bo-young likely would’ve rejected him and I think that’s why he kept putting it off; he knew deep down it was futile. But he lashed out in a way that wasn’t OK. It was wrong of him to treat her that way, and I think even he knew it. I think the final part of his arc is learning to love, and I’m not talking about romantic love, but more that he needs to know he has value and to love himself.

    (As a side note: Maybe the reason I feel this way is because after my terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week, I lashed out at someone too. I immediately apologized. But I still feel very shitty for it. They didn’t deserve that and I never should have done it. I have a temper that I mostly have learned to rein in but sometimes it comes roaring out and I’m a bitch again. Again, NOT CONDONING. It was terrible of me to act this way, and it was terrible of Min-ho to as well. But I can’t help understanding.)

    Still don’t care for Dr. Ye and Ye-line and I don’t really have the energy to beat that dead horse today. (They’re cute, blah blah blah, whatever, he still lacks a personality. Fin.)

    I will say that depressed Nam-woo (and later with his brother-in-apathy, Dr. Park) had me howling with laughter. They basically reminded me of Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh and that is never a bad thing. I think most of my screencaps today were of Nam-woo being a sad sack. I’m just happy that he saw a light at the end of the episode.

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      I like your take on why Minho was acting how he did: that he was afraid to lose her as a friend. Hopefully this week he will grow up and learn how to express himself in a way that doesn’t hurt others.

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        I mean…unless the writer is a moron (not ruling it out just yet) I assume he will grow up this week. It’s literally his last shot.

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      Can I just say that your post has given me hope, I was getting really discouraged reading through all the other beanie posts about how they interpreted Minho’s actions. I am in the same mind set as you and reading through all the posts that just called Minho’s actions unforgivable and saying his character couldn’t come back from that, really made me think something was wrong with me for feeling some kind of pity for him. haha Though I do think the violent actions were awful, I took that as bad character writing, cause it didn’t really sit well with me from what they have shown us from Minho’s character. But thank you for putting me at some ease that there are other people who thought like me after ep 14. Here’s hoping to some growth in ep 15.

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        I mean, I went into the episode expecting much worse, but all I saw was a hurt young man who was acting like a child. Still not condoning but I can’t be mad at it either.

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    I think writer is stupid if they spend any more time on anyone else.. rather concentrate on making their female lead worth an example.

    @ep 14 and MH
    People are missing another point. MH is not angry only because he feels rejected.. far from it.. he is more angry because he sees BY not being respected for her worth (in his eyes.. because BY’s worth is overestimated by both men i think)

    As far as MH is concerned, he knows Ye had an affair in his previous workplace, did not end well. he is someone who is strictly against office romance.. and here he is flirting with a naive girl and KEEPING IT A SECRET (aka not sincere). Why is ye keeping the affair a secret? there is no logical reason… and then BY goes around telling him every moment like a fool to keep it a secret..
    i think MH strongly feels that BY will get hurt and his fears are not assuaged by Ye’s behavior all through the MT.. the man can’t even stand up for his love.. when MH confessed.. Ye’s retorts were so retarded..

    Lastly, even the show has placed scenes that confirm MH’s doubts over how fickle Ye is..
    1. He goes to a party, friend says settle for a girl who sincerely likes you.. immediately that episode onwards Ye starts thinking of BY (note.. up until this point, drama never makes it clear that Ye likes BY)
    2. But Ye doesn’t want gossip so he rejects
    3. 1 or 2 days later he sees the beach pic and he proposes BY (drama made a lot of effort to show this timeline which people conveniently miss)
    4. again on MT day, he spurs into action only when confronted by MH..

    so you see he is fickle..

    and lastly MH is also right about BY not being herself..
    can she try calling Ye “yaah and talk the rude way she does with people her age.. lol.. he will give her an advice and dump her right then and there…

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      100% agree that the last few episodes had better be about BY getting everything she deserves. If she doesn’t have a full time position by ep. 16 I’ll be pissed.

      I also think we’ll have to agree to disagree on a few points.

      First, while I do think there is some merit to MH looking out for BY, I think it’s a slight overestimation of his character to think that this motivates him. We’ve never had confirmation that Ye had an affair — it seems more he was seeing someone, she left him for someone else in dubious circumstances, he still had feelings for her, and now she wants him back. The affair was just a rumor and never confirmed. We only know that he was in a relationship with a coworker at his previous position and that it didn’t end well. As a result I don’t think that his wanting to keep his relationship quiet is wrong — but also, it’s never been him who wanted to stay quiet. That was entirely BY’s choice because she believed going public would make him close up again.

      Now, in regard to his sincerity, I totally believe Ye is sincere, and I also understand why he took back his rejection. It was a protection mechanism for himself, and there’s nothing wrong with wanting to protect ones heart after being hurt once before.

      As for his response to MH — MH was acting like a bratty child, and the best way to deal with a bratty child is not to engage. He doesn’t have to justify his feelings to anyone except BY. (Also, while we’re here I’d just like to say that while I don’t mind that we disagree on some points, I’d prefer not to see someone’s behavior referred to as “retarded”; it’s not fair to use the term in a derogatorily and only serves to further stigmatize those who are intellectually disabled. Not mad at you, just needed to say something.)

      BUT, I do agree with your below points in that YE hasn’t seen BY’s clumsy, awkward, uninhibited side. At least not firsthand. However, I don’t think he’s unaware of it either, and I don’t think it would change his feelings for her. But I do think it says a lot about how BY perceives their relationship, and that’s definitely a problem. I generally have preferred BY’s easy relationship with MH and the fact that they seem to have a somewhat sturdy foundation of friendship before romantic feelings are in the mix. But one could also point out that she has a similar ease with Nam-woo. So really the issue has to do with BY being able to open up fully to Ye, and without that they’re never going to be able to work. I have stated from the start that I don’t think their relationship is built on a solid foundation, and I stand by that assessment. I also think this has a lot to do with the writer failing to make him a fully realized character when they had a chance, and that it’s too late now.

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        You believe because you as audience have been shown other side of it..
        i am telling you why MH behaves the way he does.. and in that sense he actually comes out a better man than anyone else..

        and well by saying writer should focus on BY, i just meant that writer should instill some maturity in her… what she deserves or doesn’t deserve is debatable.. lot of people out there who deserve so much more than her

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          by you believe i meant.. you believing Ye is sincere .. which he is.. but you would know that only when you in audience shoes.. not in the character’s

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    i should also add, Ye hasn’t seen the vulgar side of BY up until now.. he has seen only the innocent side…
    1)he has seen her being hardworking because everyone else is not..so it gets accentuated..
    2)he has seen her crying over patients.. but not the fact that she basically is a crybaby and cries over everything which is irritating (it was very very very rude of her to ruin NW’s bday.. you don’t always have to cry.. empathy can be actioned without shedding crocodile tears)
    3)he literally hasn’t seen her clumsy side .. not once .. she is so non elegant.. and there is nothing cute about a grown up woman being not in control of her body
    so many other things ..

    *************

    altough on good note, i am expecting the last poem of the show to say
    *title of the poem* by Bo young 🙂

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Are any Beanies watching the Taiwanese drama Between? Any good?

I\’m already drowning (…and still haven\’t watched APAD ep. 14) but I need some cute and this looks like it could fit the bill.

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    I havn’t seen Between but just started Only Side by Side With You. So far half way through episode 1 the meet-cute is pretty cute. Have you seen it?

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      Hmm, looks intriguing, I may consider it.

      But weirdly, with the exception of A Love So Beautiful, I’ve had a lot of trouble connecting emotionally to C-dramas. No idea why, but even the better ones I’ve seen and genuinely enjoyed didn’t really stir my emotions the way K-, J-, and TW- dramas do.

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Greasy Melo reminds me why I love this writer so much: she creates these little worlds that are just a touch fantastical yet at the same time are beautifully grounded because of the characters.

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Officially out of f***s to give this week.

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    Sorry to hear. I hope things get better for you!

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      At least it’s Friday. And I get to just be in the office today. So minimal contact with people.

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    🙁 *hands you tea and an Invisibility Cloak*

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      Thank you. So glad this week is over. It just feels like every day brought some new stress. And none of it was terrible, but the fact that there were so many little things just added up. Recharging with tea and hot cheetos. And possibly pizza if I can get my act together. And also sheet masks because an order of new ones just arrived.

      But also, putting off watching APAD ep.14 because I don’t need that right now. Will probably try to watch and get thoughts up tomorrow.

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        Oh good, you have tea and food! Always important.

        *side-eyes all those little things* Scram!

        Yeahhhh, stressful or boring things are not good for pick-me-ups. I had an interesting Day today, and ended up recharging to a small (now idol, 6 years later) tween talking about “nostril inversion” and “dissolving intestines syndrome”. Please don’t ask why my sense of humor is whack..

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          Today was marginally better as I barely had to interact with people other than my coworkers who I like for the most part. (It was all the people in court who were pissing me off.) Plus my work computer was finally fixed so I got thorough a lot of the work that piled up on my desk over the last month or so. I do still have one massive pile to get through, but that’s still better than the six piles I had this morning.

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#mood

(Yes, it’s been A Day.)

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    Right there with you! I just need to leave the office now.

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      Yup. Once I hit a certain time I just noped on outta there. I have since purchased wings, hot cheetos, and chocolate almond milk. And I have some drama to watch and an excellent book to read. I’ll deal with tomorrow when it comes.

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    Want me to whack it for you? I have a hot frying pan on standby.

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    *saving picture for tomorrow*

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      I feel like this picture is gonna get a lot of play in the next few weeks/months.

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        Jo Jung Suk can seem over the top sometimes, but he does express inner feelings really well.

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          I was literally deciding between two different pics of him for this. He’s my #1 fave actor. (#1 Actress is Gong Hyo-jin, so this drama was literally my dream pairing.)

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            (Gong Hyo Jin is an honest to goodness queen, she was one of my first favorite actors in Korean entertainment and I still haven’t found anyone to equal her)

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          Gong Hyo-jin was the second person in dramaland I loved. I fell for her in Pasta and then Best Love which is still one of my all time faves. If I had to choose one actor/tress in dramaland to watch forever it’d be her. She has never disappointed me with the complexity she brings to her characters. Not a single one of them has felt flat or unreal, no matter how outrageous the setup or dramatic the story gets. She grounds them somehow in a way I can’t explain and makes them feel alive and real.

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            Pasta was my first of hers too! I still need to watch Best Love, my favorite of hers so far has been Master’s Sun, her character was so sweet you often forgot she was near crazy. I totally agree, she never disappoints!! And with everyone else you said about her ~ she just always seems so lovely and REAL no matter what

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          I realized that she seems to pick characters who, on paper, are really annoying and would usually be the kind of female heroine who I’d drop a show for, and she makes them sympathetic and real.

          I watched Pasta because of The Voice, then I watched Best Love because of GHJ. I think that was actually when I fell in love with her, because on paper her character should’ve been SO annoying and stupid, but she somehow made her endearing and sweet. Same with her character in Pasta. And then with It’s OK, That’s Love, her character was wonderfully complex and fully realized even if she seemed contradictory and grating at times.

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            She has a magic touch with her characters ~ I know in Jealousy Incarnate I would have easily disliked her character had anyone else played it

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    #damn that was me too yesterday. Love the pic. So accurate.

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      So, my department at work (actually our whole branch) is reshuffling the junior and senior counsels in the department, though us clerks are staying put. And my specific department lost our senior on top of that, so we just have a junior and us now. And we’re literally training our new supervisor while dealing with our regular case load. So, we’re short staffed AND training someone who’s supposed to be our boss. (I also have…thoughts…on his ability to survive our department’s specific form of madness, but maybe he’s tougher than he looks?) So all in all, super fun times. We’re all so behind on our office work our desks are starting to look like storage for filing. And, to top it all off, my computer died yesterday, and all my old files are gone. I can replace most of the work, because it wasn’t important, but it’s still a pain. I just don’t know whether It’ll be fixed tomorrow or Friday, so I’ve been using other ones for now, but it just means I keep having to run to my desk for stuff.

      My bright spot is I have an appointment for a haircut tomorrow, so that means I get a sandwich and cookie after. And also new hair, because I’m bored with mine again.

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        Hahaha I’m trying to be sympathetic but you remind me of “While you were sleeping”. Have you watched it? ^^; I’m totally not sympathising if your new supervisor is Lee Jong Suk. 😀 😀

        On the other hand *hugs* that does sound tough. Hope that computer is back in action as well!

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          I WISH my new supervisor were LJS. Only watched first episode of that drama but intend to finish one day. New supervisor just seems meek, and we deal with a lot of crazy stuff here. I mean, I’m sure it’ll be fine, but June is going to be a hot mess. Maybe time to look for anew gig?

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            O.O That bad? Hmm..I see I’d underestimated the situation earlier.

            Btw, come June and I’m in a hot mess too. One of our biggest clients has messed up pretty badly, and the assignment – once Courts reopen after vacation – is before a VERY volatile Judge. God help us.

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          Surly, unpredictable judges are the worst. I’ve been in my current position long enough to be able to predict how our judges will rule on certain motions, but occasionally they surprise me. There is one judge, though, who seems to think that his interpretation of the building code is more accurate than the building inspectors whose literal job it is to enforce it. It’s so irritating. We call it “[Judge’s name] Law” whenever he makes a dumb ruling. My main solace is that the creepy old man judge retired at the end of last year, so no more seeing him.

          I’m just irritated right now because stressful day on top already hellish week has triggered my anxiety a bit. At least I don’t have to be in court tomorrow. I’m thinking of wearing sweatpants to the office because I’m pretty much out of f***s to give. I also cut off half my hair today, so that made me feel better. And hopefully I’ll have a computer again tomorrow. Thank God the weekend is almost here.

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Um, he cooks and he knows how to help his lady with her eyeliner? Where can I get me one?

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    I dropped it after the first episode,but that eyeliner scene, maaaaaaaaaaannn…I love it!
    Isn’t it great if your guy can help you with your make up???
    I think this is the first time I watch a romcom where the male lead help with make up.

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      You dropped?? But it’s only 2 episodes long, you need to pick it up! 😂😂 Haha, I have never watched the lady in anything before, so she’s really a breath of fresh air.

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        VIU make it into 4 episode, 30 min each. I’ve learned that if I can’t stand the first 15 minutes, most likely the drama is not for me. I’d rather spend the last 1.5 hours to do my laundry 😄
        If it’s good and I enjoy it, I wouldn’t mind 1.5 hours duration like Prison Playbook or My Ahjussi.
        The female lead was in Tunnel last year. She’s actually very charming on screen.

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Oh, I really really like You Drive Me Crazy.

I love this relationship, these two play off one another so well, and the script and direction really work well with the mini-drama format.

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    The female lead is annoying me for some reason..😧

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      The way she speak. It didn’t come out natural for me.
      I like the actor actually, kinda disappointed with her in this role.

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Is it just me, or was Min-ho basically dating a forlorn Nam-woo today? I would 100% watch web series of their failed dating attempts and how they keep ending up alone together.

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Today’s Poetry helped me gain a lot of insight into my feelings for this drama as we head into the final stretch.

You know the drill. See you in comments.

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    One change in me is today is that I’m finally starting to come around to Dr. Ye as a character. I mean, it’s still too little too late, but I do like him more. If he had these moments of softness in the early part of the series, I think I would have liked him earlier. Writer-nim, you’re not supposed to do all the character development in the latter half of the series!

    I came to the realization today that I’d rather have had him become a treasured mentor to Bo-young than her love interest. But this has more to do with the fact that I’d rather the show focus more on the work and Bo-young’s journey to a full-time position. I think she has so much more potential as a character there. There was so much of an urgency at the start of the series on this and now it’s basically disappeared.

    That’s why I’d rather have had a mentor relationship here. Actually, I just wish that Bo-young had a mentor period. And don’t tell me Dr. Ye is her mentor because, while I love that he’s in her corner, it hasn’t moved to the level where he is actively teaching her. I love that he is the one who is supporting her work and recognizing her value, but there’s no one who actually pushes her to reach her full potential. I think having love in her life helps, but as a viewer, I want more for her. Imagine if they’d played the Dr. Kim storyline out over a longer arc, and we’d seen her genuinely lose a mentor who pushed her to be better it would have been beautiful. It would also give her some commonality with Dr. Ye, deepening their connection while also be something that helps her work.

    And, while Dr. Ye is really sweet and loving honestly, I’m not feeling it. I feel like I should be swooning but instead I feel…weird. I like the comfortable nature of their relationship, but it feels like it’s only that way because the actors play it really well. It just feels like there’s a weird gap between the two – I don’t know if it’s an age thing or a maturity thing, but even though Bo-young has an old soul, she still feels very young next to Dr. Ye.

    As for Min-ho: there is a beautiful irony to the fact that his maturity comes with the price of Bo-young’s rejection. It mirrors how she moved on from him and matured in the years after he rejected her.

    I realize that tomorrow is going to be a reversion to his former bratty self, but I look forward to how he overcomes that instinct. He’s made so many steps in the right direction that I can’t wait to see how that plays out in the final week. I will probably be cringing through his antics tomorrow, though.

    OK, back to my palm tree to try one of these new dramas.

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      It’s really sad that they have to sacrifice a lot of potentially great story arcs for our characters for the sake of OTP guessing.

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      Oh, I like this idea. *covers my Shipper Heart’s eyes*

      Come to think of it, now that you’ve mentioned… How darn wonderful would’ve it been to have this drama have zero romance or pairings at all? It could’ve focused completely on the growth of our characters, particularly Bo-Young.. A mentor figure for her is something I would kill for.

      I’m so slow to come to this realization, so forgive me. 🤔 But wow, if I could just. take the drama, tweak it, and hand it back to the Universe, that would be lovely.

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        I mean, I’m not even opposed to her having love and a mentor. Why can’t she have both? But it just seems to me that the show decided to basically drop all her dreams. Not even to replace them with love, just dropped them.

        I’ve said from the start I wouldn’t be mad at a Ye-line because I think he’s really good for Bo-young’s self-esteem. She’s always been confident in her skill, and as we saw today, she’s not afraid to speak up and ask questions. She’s clearly brilliant at her job. But she never had anyone stand up for her, or lift her up, or push her to her fullest potential. While I think Dr. Ye is a step in that direction, it never quite rises to the level of mentorship. I’d have even loved to have him or someone introduce her to a kickass mentor who helps her ability to move up the ladder.

        I think I’m just mad that Bo-young seems to have stagnated while the ships came into play. It’s just small tweaks here and there which could’ve save it too, which makes it all the more frustrating.

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          I mean, yes! I think they could’ve woven that in, but at this point, as I reevaluate, I would be more than ok if I could replace Romance for Mentor. I just want happiness and growth for the dear girl, and for her dreams and different sides to be realized and shown.

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      If it’s any consolation, I still think Min-Ho is the endgame. End. Game.

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        I seriously hope you are right 🙂

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        …I’m not sure.

        And what’s more, I kind of don’t care?

        I’m really mostly mad at this point that Bo-young as a character isn’t really doing anything. Well, she’s happy and dating. But that’s not character growth. I don’t care who she ends up with, I just want her to be fully realized.

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          I think that in the long run, she’d get bored of stodgy-old Dr. Ye, and they’d have really different parenting philosophies. Me, he’s perfect for me, but she’s a free spirit, and I do think that Min-Ho would be better suited for her. And he’d make a much cooler dad in my opinion—yes I consider all that whe. I shop people in kdramas and in real life. I’m still on the island and it looks like that the storms are dying down a bit, or maybe we’re just in the eye of the storm and both ships better be battening down the hatches for the final blow!

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            *when I ship (autocorrect fail)

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            So, that was my theory when this whole mess started — that she’d date Dr. Ye for a bit, get it out of her system, but ultimately end up with Min-ho. I don’t see that happening anymore. The drama universe signs aren’t there – she isn’t thinking of Min-ho when she’s with Ye, she’s not got any fluttery butterflies around him, she doesn’t seem to find excuses to be with him. I feel like the ship is gone. I’m sad about that, because Min-ho was my original ship. I said in week 2 or 3 that I don’t think there is a solid foundation to the Ye-line, and I stand by that; but this show wants to pour cement on it anyway. They (Ye-line) have been shown to be very in sync, but I agree — she needs someone with a more playful energy, and the ability to empathize. I just don’t think the drama is gonna give us that.

            I actually really like the maturity arc that Min-ho is getting. I think that rejection is the one thing that’ll make him grow up. If he really stops and cares about Bo-young, he’ll see that it doesn’t take a fight for a woman’s affections; the woman chooses herself who she wants to be with. And maybe this will turn the tide, but…I dunno.

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            I just can’t shake this feeling. And I was originally on the Ye-line. So maybe I’m just protecting myself from heartbreak, beacuase if it happens (and my ship really sails) then it’ll be a happy accident. Not that a relationship can’t happen there, some people are just compatible with several different personalities, I still just have a nagging suspicion that the tables will be turned…and she’ll realize it in the last episode. Like Let’s Eat 2. Or maybe that’s my kdrama food essay affecting my reasoning. 🤨

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            And this is why I created the Island.

            No heartbreak, just drinks with umbrellas and clear skies all day and night.

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            And I’ll drink to that! *clinks fruity tropical 🍹

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I’m officially declaring that the Island is also Team Nam-woo because he broke my heart in 100 different ways today and he had better be happy at the end of all this or there will be a reckoning.

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**Peeks out from behind palm tree**

So. Uh, yeah…I only just watched the last episode of Poetry.

You know the drill. See you in the comments.

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    To all my Ye-liner Bean-friends: I send a raft of snacks to your ship for your celebrations! Congrats on meeting a good wind and sailing towards the sunset. There’s nothing better than seeing the characters you love get together. And who doesn’t love some cute secret dating antics? Genuinely happy that a ship sailed and that we get to see my girl Bo-young finally be happy get the love she deserves. Also, I love how comfortable the two are together and that the only awkwardness is from Dr. Ye’s terrible poker face.

    To my MinHoYoung Bean-friends: I’ma quote the lovely @isa: There are still four more episodes.

    Now, for this Islander’s thoughts:
    (Because, yeah, still here.)

    I’m starting with our ship that hasn’t sailed today. I’m sort of leaning towards Min-ho less these days, as I’ve come to see him as second lead and I never really get SLS. It’s nice to see him grow and my heart will break for him when he finds out about our Ye-line sailing, but I don’t really feel any strong shippy feelings in this direction anymore. I basically am here for his character arc because that’s more interesting at this point. I appreciate that Bo-young is the one who pushed him into maturing but ultimately he has to walk this road himself and maybe it’s better that he do it alone.

    Now, Ye-line.
    I’m gonna get into what I feel is lacking here, so feel free to skip this bit if you’re not into it.

    I’ve never been able to emotionally connect to Dr. Ye as a character. He’s too flat. As cute as he is as a smitten kitten (so cute), it just feels like he’s checking a box on the lead character sheet rather than actually being a character. (This isn’t me saying that Ye-liners are looking for something that’s not there; there have been plenty of times where I emotionally connect to a character that loads of others haven’t; I’m just pointing out that this was the issue for me.)

    We never see him mourn his past losses (other than his mentor and even that failed to land emotionally for me). We get that he was burned, he’s kind of wary, but no follow up. He basically had no reason for acting like a dick in the beginning. We don’t see Dr. Ye forging ahead to overcome his past. There’s just this weird movement from new job to crush to rejection to confession. There’s no emotional through thread that connects the actions. We get a little of all of the possible scenarios but never quite the full flavor of any of them. It’s like a there are too many spices in the pot fighting to be the main flavor and in the end you get a dish that tastes fine but it’s not quite right. (Dammit, I’m back to the food metaphors.)

    So, I’m pretty sure I just need to build a hut on the Island and become accustomed to my fate.

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      Why are your food metaphors so great EVERY TIME? They make so much sense to my foodie brain. I usually have trouble expressing all of my thoughts regarding YWFP so I’ll mainly do a couple squeal posts or cry posts but not much meat or OT stuff, and then I get to your perfectly articulated thoughts and I cry in thankfulness.

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        Thank you. I always just sort of do a word vomit immediately after watching and then clean up a bit. This week it’s just because I knew what was coming that I had a little more time to reflect. I actually had written a bit before and in the middle of the episode, but scrapped that for a more real reaction. I’m not on the Ye-line by any means, but this episode was the first one that made me understand its appeal.

        As for the food metaphors — I think I just like food too much! And food metaphors are some of the most underrated.

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          Food metaphors are the best. You can never have too many food metaphors, or too great a love for food.

          I totally get the appeal, have from the start. But for the life of me, I cannot feel anything for it. Wish I did. Would make it easier for me..

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      I’m staying right here on the island 🏝 with you boss-nim! Will a tent ⛺️do for now ? I can’t find a hut emoji. 😂

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“This f***ing show.”

Those were my exact words at the end of the episode. I actually have a lot of thoughts, but I kind of want to see where tomorrow goes.

(See comments for more.)

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    So. Um. Yeah. Still not feeling Dr. Ye that much.

    I mean, we got maybe a glimmer of a personality? But really, still nothin’ on that front.

    Some predictions:
    I think she may decide to date Min-ho, but for all the wrong reasons. I expressed this fear a while back, and now it’s really happening. But I also maintain that I think they may be a better fit long-term. (But still not 100% shipping it.) I also still think that she and Dr. Ye need may need to try dating as well. My initial thoughts in the early weeks were that she’d date him, but end up with Min-ho. Now I think it may be the other way around.

    I don’t know how to feel about that.

    My issue with Dr. Ye is and always will be his lack of empathy for others. (And his lack of personality, but I think I’m basically a broken record at this point on this. Plus, with three weeks left to go there’s really no time for him to get one. Yet somehow they gave Ha Seok-jin enough personality for three shows in one episode. Can’t you spread the love writer-nim? I’ll stop ranting now.) I think that with someone as hyper empathetic as Bo-young, someone who lacks this basic trait can’t be a good fit. I’m not saying he’s a bad person for this – but it does mean that he lacks the ability to read situational emotions and misses cues that something may be off.

    I’ve maintained that someone who is selectively nice based on snap judgments isn’t actually a nice person. I stand by that. I’ve been waiting for the show to give me something to negate that – mostly just show that he’s really socially impaired when it comes to interpersonal relationships or something. However, the show hasn’t done that. It’s shown him to actually be decent in public. Yes he was burned at his previous job, but as far as I can tell, he was still like this at that time. So why is he such an ass? His backstory doesn’t explain it the way Min-ho’s did.

    If anything, the backstory should’ve made him immediately empathize with the patient and react accordingly. Instead he was just a dick. I don’t know if this was for some inane story purpose or whether it’s that he’s just like that (this is why we need a personality writers!) but it didn’t endear him to me. He still just felt flat and cold for no discernable reason. I don’t get why it took Bo-young yelling at him to be a decent person.

    But at the same time, I don’t write him off because he’s obviously capable of kindness. He respected Bo-young’s request to let her get over him. He knew he hurt her when he rejected her, and he was kind to her in a way that shows he’s got some sympathy. I just don’t like that he’s only kind when it comes to Bo-young. The only other person he seems to respect is the Chief, and even that took some teeth pulling.

    So, yeah. I’ma just lie here under my palm tree with my drink and just let the storm rage out at sea.

    (I guess I had more thoughts than I predicted.)

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      Sigh. Yup. *hands you a napkin in Caden your hands shake*

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      See, I haven’t watched 11 yet, but I’m on a similar vein to you, except that I want more personality, more character from… almost everyone. I want Episode 6’s development in terms of my Radiology Department every episode… not every 2nd… or 3rd… or apparently 6th episode. And I’m not as invested in this show as others because I didn’t like EITHER MH or Ye at the start. I don’t even really care about the romance in this drama. I just want to see more than two characters growing please?
      So I’m on the Island, and have always been, but my romantic wants stuff, and doesn’t really like any of what she’s getting. (except for Kim and Dae Bang like LMAO YES BE CUTE)

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        Yeah, forget the romance. Things I really want to see:
        1) More Radiology Department Bromance. But both guys are busy now bonding with other people, so overall not a bad thing? I wanted to see more of them at work though.
        2) Get the two interns kicked out (useless gossips drive me crazy).

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          1) YESSS. aLTHOUGH I’m happy they’re getting along with other people, I miss their interactions because they are my faves. I also feel like we haven’t got any Joo Yong development in about 4 episodes? And that’s kinda bothering me because he kinda just ends up with Namwoo and Minho and I swear the last I knew he wasn’t actually friends with them but ok…
          2) What interns I know no interns they literally do nothing for the plot.

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      @snarkyjellyfish I’m sitting out on my liferaft feeling bitter about the whole thing… and seriously wondering if the writer hasn’t sacrificed personalities for the sake of the love triangle.

      More tomorrow, feeling seasick now.

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        Do you need animal crackers to cheer yourself up?? I can bring you animal crackers. 😉
        *dramatic gasp at sacrificing characters for the sake of a love triangle* *please no* *wouldn’t be surprised though -.-*

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          Are they shaped like alligators? Yes, please.
          At the end of the day, I am fine. Because ALLIGATOR LIVES.

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            I WAS GONNA SAY ALLIGATOR CRACKERS BUT THEN LIKE. I WASN’T SURE IF YOU’D READ THAT WRONG. THEN YES ALLIGATOR CRACKERS why am i yelling…

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Adding my current jam to the Island’s party playlist, a track by none other than the reigning badass Queen, Yoon Mi Rae.

(Also, I’m obsessed with the styling in this video.)

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    Her husband all released a track simultaneously and they both slay!

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      For sure! They are such an awesome powerhouse music couple.

      Also, WondaLand is one of my favorite albums and I love pretty much everything MFBTY does.

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        Yes! I haven’t heard much of Bizzy lately tho- maybe it’s cause I’m out of the loop.

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          I think I remember him putting some stuff out last year? I remember YMR posting about it on her instagram.

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            Well then I’m definitely out of the loop. I usually follow variety and that’s when I saw YMR and Tiger promoting their new releases. Loving how they’re still legends and killing the game and raising a child.

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            @andy
            And I think they started an indie music label on top of all that. I mean, I rarely use hashtags, but in this case it’s warranted: #goals.

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            👏👏 TRUTH

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