Beanie level: Errand boy

My favorite underrated drama trope is the The Metaphorical Plant of Feelings. It needs to be deployed more. Maybe it should make a deal with Subway or Dyson to get more air time?

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WAIT. WHAT.

Hold on. I need a moment.

You’re telling me this could’ve been a show about vigilante Robin Hood secretaries siccing it to The Man, but instead you went with a chaebol with face blindness and fish CPR?

I’m so mad right now. Vigilante secretaries is so much better than whatever nonsense we’ve been watching for the last six weeks. I mean, the nonsense is cute and all, and it gave us our new queen, Veronica Paaaahrk. But still. You could have had vigilantes and no face blindness is all I’m saying.

Still.

Fish CPR. FISH CPR.

I just…I’m gonna need a minute here.

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    🤣🤣🤣 I’m still only on the 2/4 episode.

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    Is Veronica Park a sufficient reason to watch this show? I’ve been avoiding it like crazy.

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      So, this show is nonsense fluff – which is perfect for me right now as work is too busy for me to watch anything that requires brain power. I love Veronica Park, but I also like the leads – they have fantastic chemistry, and despite the ludacris set-up, it kind of works for me? I can see how/why a lot of people aren’t into this, but if you want a cute, fluff, nothing of a drama, this does the job nicely.

      I’ll put it this way: I don’t regret watching it, and we’re 13 episodes in. That’s often when I drop stupidity that started out well. I won’t be dropping this, it seems.

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      It’s straight up ridiculously the premise is is ridiculous, the plot is ridiculous, the face blindness is ridiculous, the pretending to be Veronica Park is ridiculous, but damned if I don’t sit down twice a week and watch. I think if it was any different actors I would have dropped long ago, but they are so dang charming.

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        I’m in no place to judge since I dropped Abyss but Netflix keeps telling me to watch it and for some reason I did. God it’s awful. At this rate, I’ll watch the whole damn thing.

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        Also I’m still trying to finish Love Now and I’m up to episode 52 and this whole show should just be about her Aunt’s crush on his Dad. That plot line is hilarious. I want to write that show.

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          I need you to finish because I’m looking forward to your reaction to the makjang of the last few episodes. Speaking of ridiculous.

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            It’s going to take me a while I think. Unless I just keep it running without paying too much attention to each of the episodes.

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      I’ve almost caught up and I really can’t decide. Part of the show’s charm!

      Many are liking the show for it’s INAR/Coffee Prince brand of angst, however, for me, it’s helping prove how wonderful those shows were at having the audience not only buy into the unbelievable set-ups, but making the female leads actions truly understandable. There’s just not enough narrative purpose in the deception in this show to have you going “this was all worth it” or have you feeling very sympathetic for the heroine’s choices. Him placing so much trust in her before the lies even start was already kind of a deal-breaker for me and dragging it all out for 12 eps made it worse.

      Despite all this, the character moments are SO frustratingly charming and I can’t stop watching either. So there’s that.

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        It really hinges on the cast being so damn charming in their roles and all of them really leaning into the weird/crazy/cute. This is 100% a show I will watch, have fun watching, and then immediately forget. Which is fine. As long as it doesn’t make me rage at it I’m fine (looking at you Reach of Sincerity).

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          I’m absolutely loving all the weird/crazy/cute, however the side effect is that I actually begin to care about it and the characters, even in all its ridiculousness. Because so much is bizarrely clicking in this show, I couldn’t help but dislike the level of discomfort I was put through just because the writer wouldn’t just let. it. end. Haha, tbh, I think I just needed to vent these frustrations, because I know I’m probably forgiving all thanks to the wonderful synergy between the leads. And, obviously, thanks to Veronica Park!

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            I also just think about it this way: if they hadn’t dragged out the lie, then we’d probably get dragged down in boring office politics (because clearly this writer is unaware of the comedic goldmine they created with vigilante secretaries) and we’d all be bored with the show now. But instead we are all on tenterhooks waiting for today’s episode because we know happiness is around the corner for these goobers.

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            @snarkyjellyfish I’m honestly thanking the drama gods that they chose prolonging the lie over office politics, because most writers just Can’t. Write. Office. Politics. To save. Their. Liiiiiiives.

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        I think what would have immensely aided this drama is if they had given us more insight into the characters motivations Before the big reveal rather than after. They did the opposite and revealed motivations a little too late, and that ultimately hurt the story.

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    Yup – fish CPR – what more do you want oh miss @SnarkyJellyfish! that made me laugh out loud!!!
    No telling what a writer will do – especially when it comes to fish either CPR or throwing yourself in front of a TOD.
    Still the cast and leads and Veronica Park somehow make it all worthwhile and I’m loving it.
    but NO to CPR on a $100,000 fish please.

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    The vigilante secretaries is a genius idea, and I do think they could have done a lot more with it (there’s a few things they could have done so much more with), but I can’t help myself. I love pretty much everything about this drama. It just works for me.

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      I wonder if they meant to, but there was a scandal with one of the actors playing a secretary and they pulled her from the drama.

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        It’s very likely. From what I understand, she played an important role in the vigilante secretary plotline, so I’m sure her exit messed a lot of things up.

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      I’m 100% not criticizing this drama. I truly enjoy watching it every week. It’s a hoot. I love the characters, I think the actors are killing it; the leads have insane chemistry. I want to be Veronica Park. But part of my enjoyment of this drama is due to the sheer absurdity of how everything this drama does has to be so extra. It’s great. Like, I just want a drama about vigilante secretaries now.

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        I would 100% watch vigilante secretaries which is what I kind of thought Jugglers was supposed to be, but then wasn’t. 🙁

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          I know, I keep thinking this needed a little more of the gusto of Jugglers and less of the typical drama angst…but then I realized I could just rewatch Jugglers. Which I may do since I miss Choi Daniel’s beautiful cheekbones.

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            It’s interesting reading everyone’s feelings on this drama, because a lot of people were having trouble with the lie before it was revealed, and by proxy, felt like the story was too angsty, but I haven’t felt like this drama was angsty at all. The lie was definitely frustrating at times, but it’s otherwise been a pretty easy watch for me, like someone took the old, standard drama formula and modernized it in a fresh way that left behind a lot of the frustrating things and just focused on being fun and cute and romantic.

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        I think this drama works for me just because the leads are So good together, so easy with each other, so suited for one another, and aside from the lie going on a long time, there’s been zero conflict in their relationship. The writers have made it very easy to root them, and I have an ingrained need to want to like the writer’s OTP, so they have to be really bad for me to not want them together.

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          Agreed. I also rarely get second lead syndrome (if ever) – I can’t get on a ship that’s gonna sink. I prefer dramas like this where the second leads have their own loveline that is mostly separate (I never saw this as a love triangle). I do like that there is really only one thing causing angst and drama in the relationship, and when they get past that they really will be a strong team. Stronger team, I should say, since they were pretty strong to begin with.

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            Someone else on here described the love triangle as Gal Hee in a love triangle with herself, and I really liked that, cause it’s very true. She’s set up a situation where the other woman…is her. She’s literally competing with herself. Add to that layer another layer of her basically hating Herself for taking him away from Herself. It’s an idea I kind of wish the drama had explored more, because there’s so much complexity there to mine. That being said, I kind of like that this drama isn’t going too deep. It’s lighthearted fluff, and it’s okay with it.

            And I rarely get second lead syndrome either. More often than not, I find the second leads way too clingy and annoying. I just wanta shake them roughly and be like ‘This ain’t your story, boo!’

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            I’ve definitely said that about this drama – Gal Hee being in a love triangle with herself. But I think I was comparing it to a Bollywood movie, Rab Ne Bana di Jodi, where the male lead does the same thing – he disguises himself and accidentally causes his wife to fall in love with his altar ego. It’s one of my favorite movies because in the end we see that even though she’s swayed by the altar ego she realizes that the one she loves is the one who has been by her side the whole time. It’s lovely, and very similar to how Min-ik came to the same conclusion about Gal-hee, just slightly better executed and without face blindness. (It sounds insane if you haven’t seen the movie, but trust me, it works.)

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        And I second the idea of a drama about vigilante secretaries. Preferably something with heightened comedy mixed with heightened action, something really fun but with a heartfelt message to back it up.

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          Have you seen Jugglers? I love that one, and it kind of is vigilante secretaries, and definitely heightened comedy. I it’s not quite as absurdist as I want here, but it does kind of fit the bill.

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            I haven’t. I was interested, but I read that people weren’t very happy with it. I think it’s on my to-watch list though.

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            I loved Jugglers because it found a way to work around tropes (noble idiocy, childhood trauma, etc) and make me care for the characters. Plus it had a wicked sense of humor. I loved the leads, the second leads were cute, and the office shenanigans were not too boring.

            I know some people had issues with the female lead in the beginning because she was so complacent being complicit in bad behavior, but, like, that was literally the entire point of her arc in the show? I don’t know. I find a lot of people judge female leads who act badly in early episodes and then write them off (the same happened with the female lead in Revenge Returns, and I LOVE her). I like arcs like that where character growth includes acknowledgement of ones past bad behavior. It also says a lot about how women are often forced to go along with bad behavior by acting passively and how actively standing against it can be much more compromising for them. But the stories all show that growth and self-actualization so I like it.

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          Wasn’t there a movie about this years ago with Dolly Parton? I can’t remember the name but I think they were secretaries out to get back at their boss.

          However that would be a great drama – I’d watch in a heartbeat.

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            9 to 5? That’s a Dolly Parton song/movie if I recall. I haven’t seen it but now I need to. Granted, I am starting to sense that I may go through a Dolly Parton phase soon – she keeps popping up and I keep wanting to do a deep dive into her work, I just need the time.

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Veronica Park is my hero.

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I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHO SHE REMINDS ME OF

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Her Private Life;
Or, How Cheekbones Changed SnarkyJellyfish’s Life Forever

Her Private Life was a full circle moment in my drama watching journey. It’s probably my 150th (ish) K-drama (maybe my 200th drama overall) and as I was watching I remembered something about my early drama days. So Beanfriends, gather ‘round and let Snarky tell you a little story.

Once upon a time, there was a stressed out snarky little second year law student who couldn’t watch television shows she once loved because law school ruins things like that. (Also she may have overloaded her schedule that term.) But one fine fall weekend she miraculously had a lull in her work, as she’d actually caught up with her reading and assignments for once and she decided to watch something new.

This snarky little law student had majored in English Lit in her not-so-distant past. Her favorite Shakespeare play was the Bard’s gender-bending romp in the woods, As You Like It. She was fascinated by the role gender played in storytelling, and had loved gender-bent variations of well-worn tales. Thus, when Hulu kept suggesting this odd little Korean television show about a girl disguised as a boy in order to work in a coffee shop she never could quite click the “not interested” button. (Never mind that her legal training screamed “workplace discrimination” at this basic premise. This is why lawyers can’t have nice things.)

So, on this fine fall weekend she decided to hit play on the mysterious Coffee Prince. Sure, the costumes were a bit dated, and the premise was ludicrous, but was it really any sillier than Suits?

Beanfriends. The snarky little law student was enchanted.

Sure, there were many many things to snark at, and she did so gleefully. But, my dear Beanfriends, despite the snark she could not stop watching. She watched all weekend, thinking she could stop after one more episode. She sacrificed an hour (or possibly three) of precious sleep. She nearly missed class one afternoon because she could not stop watching. She went to bed and dreamed about these characters. She replayed the scenes in her head on the subway to class. And in class. And on her way home. Needless to say, she was hooked.

When it ended, six days and 16 episodes later, the snarky little law student knew something had fundamentally shifted in the way she would watch television. She didn’t yet know how it had shifted, but she knew change was afoot. She tried another drama, Boys Over Flowers but dropped it halfway through when she realized she was rooting for the female lead’s abductors to win.

But a few weeks later when the finals schedule posted our snarky law student realized that she would have almost two weeks before her first exam. That meant that, with a proper study schedule in place, she may be able to watch something new in her downtime. Another drama perhaps? She did see an intriguing one with the poodle-haired dude on the Netflix – something about a doctor time traveling? Whatever, she decided to give it a go. She watched it in that period before her first three exams. It kept her attention better than she expected. Plus, the poodle dude looked good with all the different hairstyles here.

Now. There was another week before her last final. That meant she could totally watch something else, right? Right. But what now? Now she started to do a bit of research.

And here, my lovely Beanfriends, is where my full-circle moment comes in.

When the snarky little law student had watched Coffee Prince she had been utterly smitten by the two leads and their romance. But she had fallen in love with the beautiful man who she dubbed “the hot waffle guy”.

I still remember clearly the first time I saw Kim Jae-wook on my screen. I leaned forward in my desk chair and said “Well, hel-lo there, you are very attractive”. I rewound the scene just to see him again in case he would disappear. Who was this beautiful man? That hair. The brooding. The shy little smile.

Those cheekbones.

(Some things never change.)

It was love at first sight. So, when I looked for my fourth drama, I remembered the hot waffle guy. That’s how I found Mary Stayed Out All Night. The end was a mess, but the leads were fantastic. And when it was over, I knew that dramas were now a part of my life for good.

I’ve often said that Jang Geun-suk was my first bias. I was wrong. Kim Jae-wook was. He was the reason I kept watching dramas. If it hadn’t been for him (and his beautiful beautiful cheekbones) I may have succumbed to watching a mediocre season of a show I wasn’t invested in. But because I wanted to see him again on my screen I kept watching. And watching. And it led me to Dramabeans and the best community on the internet.

I kept tabs on him over the years – loving him in Voice and The Guest. But a secret part of me knew I wanted to see him leading a romantic comedy. Those are my bread-and-butter when it comes to drama. So when Her Private Life announced him as the lead, I knew I had to watch. I’m so happy I did. I loved this drama. It reminded me of all the reasons I started watching drama to begin with. It was a story that examined different kinds of relationships, both social and personal. It was a silly but fun. It was populated by characters I loved. I thought about these characters in between episodes, wondering how the story would go.

But most importantly: it had my hot waffle guy with his shy little smiles and his expressive face (with the beautiful cheekbones).

So, thank you, Her Private Life, for reminding me why I’m here, and for reminding me how I stumbled into this beautiful community.

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    Woah! I didn’t realize that was the same actor. I too watched Coffee Prince in my earlier drama-watching days and loved it! I’m glad the actor has gotten more roles. Thanks for sharing!

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    Oh, Coffee Prince. One of my early watches too. I thought Kim Jae-wook was so beautiful and he still is. Though…..Gong Yoo is just….Gong Yoo, lol.
    I so want Kim Jae-wook to do another rom com, but maybe takes a bit longer to fall.

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      Oh, don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Gong Yoo. I loved that OTP too. I literally dreamed about the show as I was watching it. But I have a single weakness in this world, and it is cheekbones. (OK, maybe it was also the mysterious-bad-boy-with-a-heart-of-gold thing.)

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        The first time I ran across Hyun Bin I was so mesmerized by his cheekbones. Lol.

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          Epilogue to my post:
          I binged You’re Beautiful and Secret Garden after my last final until my mother summoned me back home to spend “quality time” with the family, instead of my very healthy post-exam drama binging while eating takeout life.

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    Now seems like a good time to plug the Friday Coffee Prince watch on Rabbit. Dont ask me how rabbit works or what time as I will only lead you astray…@egads.

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    Snarky, thanks for gathering us ’round and telling us your tale. His cheekbones are fabulous, but he slays with those amazingly expressive eyes.

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      Oh, do not get me started on his eyes. I had to stop screencapping certain scenes in HPL because he was so subtly expressive.

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    “I still remember clearly the first time I saw Kim Jae-wook on my screen. I leaned forward in my desk chair and said “Well, hel-lo there, you are very attractive” ”
    You are not the only one so welcome to the club dear!

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    I connected with this post on a personal level. Dal Ja’s Spring and Coffee Prince were my first dramas and Kim Jae-wook just happened to be in both of them. I have fond memories of myself trying to figure out why I loved these dramas so much and finding javabean’s posts. I don’t know why, but it made me happy to see another clearly intelligent person enjoying these seemingly ridiculous shows to such a degree, to the point of actually analyzing just what made them so wonderfully cracky and heartfelt.

    Considering he was a part of the dramas that kicked that off for me, I loved that his first leading role was in a rom-com that engaged me in all those same ways. Though it faltered at times, at its core, Her Private Life was always about taking the time to cherish the things you enjoy in life, whether that be your favorite idol or (in my case) your favorite drama. It definitely reminded me of why I love the community here on dramabeans so much and I’ll always value it for that.

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      I’m a literature person at my core. I analyze things despite myself. Stories are what keep me going, and dramas and television are just a different medium to convey stories. I’m pretty sure that law school tried to suck all my spirit out of me and dramas are the one thing that kept me tethered to earth and allowed me an escape that kept me sane. I think the fact that I had to read the subtitles meant that I needed to focus on the story and that actually allowed me time to get out of my work/study zone and relax.

      But I also think it’s OK (and even good) to embrace the shallow and superficial at times. I’ve learned not to be embarrassed by the things that bring me joy – whether it’s a complex story like SKY Castle or a totally fluffy one, like Her Private Life. Joy is joy, it shouldn’t matter where it comes from. I basically have chosen to ignore the flaws because they took so little away from the rest of the drama that I can’t be mad at them. Nothing is perfect. But that’s OK. As long as it made me happy I don’t care.

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        This captures my feelings exactly. It’s certainly not something that happens for every fluffy show out there, but now and then, one will come along that has me falling in love as the characters do. Rather than just pleasantly watching, I feel a part of their happiness. And I become attached to the characters, perhaps slightly more than I love the show overall, yes, but I still credit the drama for accomplishing that something special that I started watching for.

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Eid Mubarak to the Beanies celebrating! May you have wonderful day celebrating with friends and family.

And to all the lovely and amazing Bean Friends, I wish you health and happiness and all the good things.

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Not really sure what I’m trying to accomplish but I needed to get these ruminations out of my head:
Nothing about Arthdal Chronicles has grabbed me so far but the writing/directing team behind it is so good I\’m debating giving it a shot. I\’m also intrigued by its release schedule – breaking it up into three “seasons” of 6 episodes a piece seems to indicate that the scope of the story is bigger than I anticipated. And with this writing team I expect the arcs will be clear and strongly built. If it’s about the rise to power and the transformation of these characters in doing that I’m much more interested. Especially the depiction of females with political power. Ambitious women are some of the best characters when handled correctly.

But the teasers haven’t grabbed me and the posters are so so terrible. (It looks like Song Joong-ki was playing Puck in A Midsummer Night’s Dream and accidentally wandered onto the Game of Thrones set and they just decided to go with it.)

I can’t decide to whether to wait for a verdict or just dive in and give it a shot. Because best case it’s genuinely awesome and the terrible posters and mediocre trailers were a fluke; worst case it’s terrible and I drop. But part of me feels like it could end up in the middle and be fine, but not worth the hype. I almost feel like that’s the actual worst case because at least with rom-coms I know what I’m getting into and am not disappointed by mediocrity. When the pedigree is good though, mediocrity just feels worse than a terrible show since, mediocrity, to me, indicates that they had all the ingredients for a good show but failed to put them together properly.

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    i’m in the same boat!!! i’m thinking i’m just gonna wait til all eps are out, and try to avoid reviews/opinions of others for now! i’m gonna keep the expectations at a minimum too! getting hyped up over this is unnecessary

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      I’m not a spoilerphobe, so that part of the waiting doesn’t bother me. I just find that if I don’t watch a show while it’s airing, I probably won’t watch it. So I have to be picky with what I do watch. I have so much less time these days so bingeing isn’t an option unless there’s nothing that grabs me. I’m guessing I’ll probably have to wait until after this weekend to give it a shot anyway, so either way I’ll have a verdict on the first week before I get a chance to watch.

      But also, if it’s another case of mini-movies (i.e. 90 minute episodes) from TvN I’m out. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

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    I am mostly in it for the Beanie snarks, which is double the fun when we live watch. So let’s do it Jelly!! Let’s watch it live.

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      See, but I don’t think this will be snarkworthy, and that’s what’s so annoying. Like, DoS I could snark at because it was dumb and had no plot. Last Empress was cracked out in the best way. Those are all dramas I snark about and will continue to snark about because they never really were meant to be works of art. They were popular (not a bad thing) and fun and no one really expected much from them except that they be widely appealing escapism (again, not a bad thing).

      But the pedigree we have here for Arthdal Chronicles is literally some of the best drama I’ve ever seen (Signal, My Ajusshi, Six Flying Dragons). I feel like at worst they turn out a mediocre drama which as I said, is worse than a snarkworthy terrible drama.

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    Same, but I’ll watch episode 1 because I haven’t caught the premiere of any drama since Bok Soo. And because I trust the writers and PD.
    Hopefully SJK will only wear a flower wreath in ep 1 (prehistoric flower boy?)

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      I realized I don’t even have the time to watch the premiere this weekend anyway, so I will get a verdict. But I’m still unsure. There’s a lot of other stuff I’m looking forward to as well (Perfume, WWW, Chief of Staff) so it may just be the show that I check out only if the reviews are really good.

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    I thought I was the only with similar opinion. Glad to know I was wrong . I’ve never been this reluctant to go through teasers before. The whole plot just went whew! Over my head. And then I got a silly Mowgli(!) Vibe from the posters. Just as you said the writers are too good to ignore but I’m getting a feeling it’ll be exactly those mini movies you’re fearing. And I ain’t wasting those long hours!

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      I literally cannot think of a single show where episodes of 80+ minutes has benefited from the extra time. Or made it through one of them (dropped: Goblin, Hwayugi, Answer Me 1994). If they’re genuinely good or only the first and last ones are 90 minutes I can do it. But 18 90-minute episodes is a lot. Every scene has to matter.

      But then I think that these writers and this director are good enough to keep me glued to the screen. So I’m torn. Goblin I dropped because I don’t like KES anyway, so it’s not surprising I lost interest. But in Signal, Misaeng, My Ajusshi I could watch for hours and not be bored because the director made every frame count. And while I have to finish Six Flying Dragons, the episodes went by fast and the writing was tight and purposeful, with well realized characters and a good grip on the history it presented.

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        Now now… When you name signal and my ahjussi! I wish the latter one was 90 minutes with more background stories like the Loan shark one, her grandma and what not. Anyways let’s see how “netizens” react. Really curious as the “netizens” been dying to see SJK on screen.

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          Exactly, this is why I’m torn. There’s just so many factors at play that could effect my decision to tune in. I’ll just have to see what the beanies say next week.

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    I say watch.

    Also, I loved My Ahjussi and am now curious as to what the director will bring to epic fantasy……I haven’t watched his other works.

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    SJK as Puck – perfect! I was trying to recall where I’d seen that look before – Puck is it. Now, how am I supposed to take his character seriously? Perhaps the show will be campy enough (intended or not) to make Puck in a GoT get up work?!?

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      Right? Like, if they can get me to forget how ridiculous the costuming is, then I’ll be impressed. But at the same time, some of my all time favorite shows, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, are super campy but also incredibly thoughtful. So at least we know the two can exist simultaneously.

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    I’m afraid that breaking it into three parts is just so Netflix will be happy and have it fit their “season” format. Which means it just ends haphazardly after 6 episodes for no reason other than they can then say they have another season on the way.

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      But between the writing team actually being good, and the seasons being named in ways that appear to depict specific arcs, I’m not as worried about the breakdown. I’ve often found dramas have three “acts” anyway, and the usually are broken down into arcs of 6/6/4 (for a 16 ep drama). Like, I usually expect episode 6 to have a major reveal, then a breakthrough in episode 11/12 and then dealing with aftermath in the final episodes.

      I’m more intrigued by the “season” format because I think it could lead to tighter writing and better storytelling if they are constrained by 6 episode arcs. Giving writers limits is a good thing – otherwise you get bloated which is what drags the whole thing down. It also allows great writers to stretch muscles in storytelling that they may not use when given broader freedoms.

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    So, did you dive in? How is Puck doing?

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      Unfortunately I have not had a chance — end of Ramadan and work have made it impossible to really watch much of anything. Maybe this weekend, but there’s other stuff I’m more interested in checking out first, so I may wait for a few weeks to see what the overall reaction is.

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I love her.

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    veronica…park
    awesome~

    XD

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    She is one of those people you could easily dislike but you just cannot! She is amazeballs!

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      It really helps that Kim Jae-kyung is leaning into the insane tendencies but there’s just a hint of vulnerability under the surface which keeps her from being too over-the-top. Also, i think they give her the the right amount of screen time – more and she could be grating, less and she’d be a caricature.

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    Did anyone notice that all the fingers were broken except the middle one? I wonder who that was for?
    The details…

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Some Secret Life of My Secretary thoughts because it’s still not Her Private Life day yet, and Snarky’s sinuses are too stuffed to focus on work:
I’m like 90% convinced Min-ik knows that “Veronica Park” is really Gal-hee. Like, he has to…right? No? I mean, his defining characteristic when we first met him was that he could read people really well. Even though that largely had to do with his ability to read faces, we saw that he recognized Gal-hee even from a distance, which is why we’re supposed to believe that he recognizes her now. (Dude was totally crushing on her at that point, even if he didn’t know it.) If he doesn’t know, that would be really weird after Monday’s episodes, right? I went into the episode 50/50 as to whether he knew and tried to read it as he didn’t but then his actions just look kind of crazy, unless the director and Kim Young-kwang are making some really odd choices for the character.

I also love the idea of a female lead being in a love triangle with herself. It reminds me a bit of the Bollywood movie Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi which I love because it comes down not to just personality or attractiveness, but also seeing the other person’s actions towards the one they care about.

I mean, I’m pretty sure this drama will devolve into a mess of noble idiocy and stupid company politics and childhood trauma and I’ll regret being invested at all, but dear God these two are so adorable that I can’t help myself.

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    I’m torn too. Last week, I thought that he should have known, based on her mannerisms etc. But he asked himself, alone, how Veronica looked like. So I took it as if he indeed didn’t know. But the way he was teasing her yesterday makes me think that he knows. Ugh. I want him to know without telling her yet :p

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      So, I’m not 100% that he knew right away. I think he had a hunch before the umbrella thing, and he used that meeting to verify his hunch. I think he was 100% in the dark on the first date. I just kind of hope this leads to more teasing cuteness on his part because he’s kind of adorable around Gal-hee.

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    I’m constantly oscillating between “he knows” and “he doesn’t”… I hope he does know… otherwise some of his actions are a bit questionable… (though I’m not analysing that too much, just enjoying their chemistry 😆).

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    I certainly hope he knows it would make all of her current/ upcoming angst funny instead of painful, his so sad face when he realizes his right hand person betrayed him would kill me, he needs someone on his side so badly. That uncle makes me so mad always making those cuckoo references

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      I hope he knows because I really like his adorable teasing of Gal-hee. I think if he doesn’t know for sure, he definitely knows something is up.

      Don’t even get me started on the uncle. He’s such an ass, I can’t even. I want to slap his smug face every time it’s on my screen.

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    I mean surely he MUST know the voice??? Right? I haven’t caught up to the latest episodes as yet but imagine how refreshing it would be, specially in a trope filled drama as this, if he knew. Ah! It would be good.

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      I truly hope he knows!!!

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      I think Gal-hee pitches her voice a bit differently when playing “Veronica” and doesn’t just copy the real Veronica’s affected way of speaking? But she also slips up when she’s surprised which is why I feel like Min-ik didn’t figure it out right away. I feel like it would have taken him a bit of time to figure it out. I feel like it’s the mannerisms which will give Gal-hee away more than anything.

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    i’m sadly convinced he doesn’t know. When he DOES figure it out, it’ll be like an «oh wow how did i not know moment. it was so obvious» And there’ll be angst when he finds out (hopefully KYK will play angst as beautifully as YSH). But i personally want him to find out and play with her without her knowing. A girl can dream.

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    I want him to know… but they usually don’t know and this drama isn’t smart, it just has good leads lol.

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      If I remember correctly this writer plays with tropes a bit, but they didn’t seem to give into dramalands worst instincts in Divorce Lawyers in Love which was fluff but never really made me tear my hair out. I think there was one point where they were almost angsty and stupid but then decided that was dumb so they stopped? I just remember not being mad at the drama.

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        You have suddenly given me hope that it won’t pull a trope fest on me in the latter half!!
        I still don’t think it’s smart, because it’s done a lot of weird things already, but maybe it will turn out to be less stupid than I’m expecting it to be.
        (Then again if I expect it to be really stupid I don’t get burnt lol)

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          I feel, after yesterday’s episode, that there may be a bit of angst when he finds out but it won’t be hair-tearingly bad. I feel like if there is angst over betrayal it’ll be because of his shady BFF, and that is much more compelling to me because we rarely see male relationships that have that much trust and closeness in them. I remember in Divorce Lawyers there was a really compelling storyline about one of the clients, played by the always fabulous Lee El, that really kept me watching. It was good because it had you thinking one thing during the first half and then when it played out it was something else entirely. And it wasn’t stupid like Touch Your Heart, which I rage quit three episodes from the end because it was so unethical.

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    Totally unrelated and superficial question but how can someone look so good when he’s sleep? Is this what he really looks like when he falls asleep in his trailer on set or on the sofa at home? I have questions and I really would like answers. lol.

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This is legitimately one of my favorite moments from a drama ever.

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She’s kind of bonkers and I may love her.

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Beanfriends, thank you all so much for your encouragement last week when I was feeling down. I feel confident today thanks to you. Channeling Hye-young unnie for extra luck.

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Some more nifty numbers.

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Some nifty numbers I noticed on this fine morning for all you number loving bean friends.

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I had one of those days where it feels like even with a solid plan, everything just became a hot mess.

(More in comments.)

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    I had to do something today that I find a bit stressful to do myself at work. I did it solo it anyway because I need practice and because it’s better to do things that scare me than to avoid them. But I still feel like I bungled things (though not as badly as I could have) and I feel like I let opposing counsel get under my skin a bit more than I should have. I know I look young, I know I’m still green. But I also know I’m not stupid. And that I kind of know what I’m doing. And that my boss trusts me to do this, so I must be OK.

    But I still feel stupid and anxious even though I did my best. And I know we still have a really strong case. And I feel like the other side has no idea how these cases work because their deposition last week was a joke. But I still feel small and I hate feeling this way. I’m getting better about moving on when things make me anxious, and I no longer stay up all night because I’m so stressed. But it’s still eating at me a bit.

    It sucks. I know part of my spaciness and some of the mistakes I made were due to being over-tired from fasting. I know part of it was because I let them trip me up. And I know part of it was probably because I could have been better prepared (though I prepared a lot for this).

    I don’t really know what I’m trying to accomplish by writing this here. But I just needed to get it out of my system before it festered and became toxic to my well-being. Any advice on what you all do to feel better in these situations? Or cute videos to distract? Or good music? I need something more than chocolate for this situation, I think.

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      you know I used to be the same… even when things went objectively pretty well I’d get stuck on the things that weren’t 100% right. Those mistakes would keep running over and over in my head to the point were I would feel completely drained. what I learned in the interim is: take 10 min to write down sth that will be useful to do differently next time round, then let it go. Completely. There will always be a next time and the best you can hope for is to do as best as you can and to learn from the experience. [saying that, i’m still uselessly obsessing about the presentation i gave today… do what i say not what i do… ]

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        I used to have very very bad anxiety – like, to the point of insomnia bad. It hasn’t happened for me for a while, so I’m hoping that dealin with it by writing it out and talking to you all and to others helps me gain the perspective I need to move on. It seems to be helping since I feel a LOT better now. I also feel like I’m now prepared for the next one and will be able to call out their bullshit when they try to pull it again.

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      Been there. Take strength knowing that your research and your prep was well done. We always feel after that “maybe if I had submitted this, or maybe if I had said that” – it can go on and on – don’t let it faze you. In my earlier days, my boss told me that I should set out arguments – point form – and mark them off as I go along. So when opposing counsel try and trip me up and I get nervous, I just have to glance at my list and hunker down again. I have that habit to this day. After processing all that – go rematch that episode of your favourite drama that made you squeal. Trust me – that’s the best cure.

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        *rewatch*

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        Thanks, yeah. I had an outline and a plan to go off of, but they really messed with me early on. I think I managed to fix the trip ups, but at the end of the day, the questioning went out of order. They did that asshole thing where they were objecting to everything I asked (foundation, form, speculation, etc. even where I was literally laying the foundation…)

        I did learn something useful about their strategy though, and what they will likely use as the core of their argument and I managed to get some info that would work against them out of it. I’ll do better next time now that I know what to expect. (Next time being next week…)

        Taking it as what it is – not a win, but not a total loss either. Live an learn. And hope to settle soon.

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          Awesome take away. Study them and outmanoeuvre and pre-empt them. Yeah they did an ass thing on you. There are some out there like that.

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      You’re doing exactly what I do when I need something out of my head—come to the fanwall. Beanies are incredibly understanding humans. And smart! For me, sometimes just getting it out and hearing that I’m ok is enough.

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        Yes! Exactly this. I was just sitting at home and it was festering in me and I was starting to get all in my head in a bad way. Writing it out and going out helped a lot. I went to my cousin’s place to break my fast and we talked and it helped me get the perspective and distance I needed to get rid of the worst of the anxiety. Hopefully a little drama will help get me to sleep and tomorrow will be a new day with new stresses to deal with.

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      It feels weird to up vote, but it just means I hope tomorrow is better.
      It sounds like you showed up prepared and knew what you were doing. Also, if you did let them slip you up it seems like you used it as a way to learn how the opposition works and to be aware and prepared next time.
      Sometimes just saying “My day was hard and I feel bad” helps.
      I hope you find something to take your mind off of it and then start again tomorrow.

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        Thank you for this. I think, now that I have a little distance that I wasn’t a total idiot. I was tired, I could have been more articulate less on edge, but at the end of the day it’s over and done with. I can’t change it, but I did learn a lot, and not just about my work – about their strategy. And I think it could help long run.

        I hope tomorrow is better too. I’m looking to it as a fresh start. Also a lot less anxious now that I got it out of my system. (I also bitched a bit about it with my cousin which helped.)

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      You’re not small, you are travel-sized for your convenience. You’re good. You made mistakes – congrats, I can hand you your Human sticker. You did your best. It really is all you can do, so good job. You’ve worked hard, you know your stuff.

      I’m firm because I believe this wholeheartedly, but I do get that it’s so much more difficult to change that mindset in practice. Argh. So let me give you the gentle reminder that ya not stupid.

      Ya great.

      Hope tomorrow will be 100% better than today, and let me get on the computer so I can pull up some cat gifs.

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        Thank you! My worst trait has always been that I’m too hard on myself. It’s why I can have such bad anxiety – and I’ve been this way all my life. I’ve been getting better about being rational and letting go, though. It really helps that now I started to actually believe to a degree that I am good enough for all the things my stupid brain wants to tell me I’m not. Being human is hard sometimes.

        I feel a lot better now that it’s a new day. Also, eating helped. And talking it out here, because you are all awesome and amazing people. I also went and saw my cousin for dinner last night and it was good to get out a bit and just be somewhere else. I felt way less anxious and stressed when I got back and had some space and perspective.

        Also, belated, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I hope you had an amazing one, and that the year to come is filled with good things.

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          I think it’s one of the hardest lessons we have to learn as people, that we can both forgive and be proud of ourselves. I’m glad you’re feeling better with the new day, and I hope it carried through the hours! Eating definitely helps. Being hungry can mess with moods big time. So glad talking it out helped! Getting away for a bit is a game changer. I have a tendency of packing a little Totoro plushie and bubbles in my bag when I go places, and will usually step outside if I need a breather. If the outside ain’t pretty, that’s what the bubbles are for.

          Thank you!!!! I had a lovely one. It was incredibly low-key and absolutely glorious. A gal from my French course remembered and brought in donuts, and I practically cried from the thoughtfulness even though I don’t like donuts. Feeling pretty darned blessed.

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      *hugs* I’m glad you’re feeling better about the whole thing. I second what the other Beanies have said – they really are a good bunch to talk to. I don’t have any animal videos but I do have a cute anecdote:
      I just talked to my little sister on the phone. Her laugh is still adorable even from an ocean away.

      I hope you sleep well tonight and that this weighs a little less heavily on you tomorrow. I may not know you very well but I know this: you care about your job, and that alone tells me that you’re probably better at it than you think. Be gentle with yourself.

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        Thank you! I actually slept better last night than I had for the last three nights – partially I think, from eating a ton of delicious food at my cousin’s and partially thanks to venting here and with her. Also, I think my fasting routine is finally getting into a groove, so hopefully from here on out it’ll be better. I’m taking a break from the case that was stressing me out to work on other things and get the space I need.

        I love your anecdote. It sounds like you have a great relationship with your sister.

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To all the Beanies starting their fast today, Ramadan Mubarak!

My wish for you is that you are all smarter than I am and do not ignore your pre-dawn alarms.

To all my lovely Beanfriends: I wish you a healthy and happy month. Thank you all for being an awesome, inspiring, and supportive community who never fail to cheer me up and teach me new things.

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    Ramadan Mubarak!

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    (I hope this is acceptable for a non Muslim to say.)

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      Thank you!

      It’s totally fine for you to say it too. It’s no different that me saying “merry christmas” even though I don’t celebrate.

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    Ramadan Mubarak! My best friend’s phone, the traitor, chose to install updates during sehri time so she missed her alarm.

    Thank you for the kind wishes. It’s been a rough couple of weeks for me so I really appreciate the sentiment.

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      Thanks! I was lucky I had a heavy dinner, so I’m fine so far, only about five and a half hours left. I just miss water. I forgot how icky your mouth starts to taste around lunch.

      I feel you – I had an intense April (moving and too many important deadlines at work) and, while Ramadan is not stressful, per se, it does come with a new set of priorities to integrate into an already hectic life. What would have been my chance to rest up and prepare for the next big wave of work is a little more difficult. I’m not complaining because I love this time, but it does mean having to reconfigure my life in odd ways sometimes.

      I hope things get better for you, and get a chance to relax a bit.

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        I get what you mean. It can be challenging when you already have so much going on. I hope you’re settling OK into the new place.

        My mental health has taken a nose dive just when I need to make an important decision about my career. And it took my ability to enjoy things with it. Dramas, tv, books, podcasts, even food. I’m not Muslim, but my best friend suggested sharing pictures of our food at iftar time to try to get me to eat. She’s awesome. I hope it works.

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          Thanks, yeah – I just cleaned a lot of stuff up last night, but I haven’t really got much furniture yet – just a mattress and a few boxes of things that need to be put together.

          I’ve been there with mental health holding me back, especially before big decisions. It’s hard to enjoy things fully or at all when your brain is lying to you. Right before I applied for my current position (which I love) I was going through things that was making it hard for me to move my life forward and allowing my anxiety to take over. I was lucky and was able to get the help I needed but it was still hard, so I understand what you’re going through. I don’t know exactly what you’re going through and I can’t tell you what the best solution is for you, but I hope that you find what you need to get through this rough patch. Because for me the best thing is to remember that every rough patch is just that – a patch. It’ll pass eventually, and sometimes just surviving it is all we need to do. Sending you all the good vibes.

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            Thanks. It really helps to know that other people have been through similar things and made it out the other side. And sometimes it really is just about surviving that period of time when your brain decides to be a jerk.

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            There’s a Latin phrase “dom vivo, spero” which roughly translates to “So long as I live, I hope”. It’s kind of my mantra. It helped get me through the worst times – I just need to live through this to get to the next thing. And even though I still get bad anxiety sometimes I still remember that most things are fixable and those that aren’t were probably not meant to be. Like right now – I just had a deposition which drained the life out of me, and I don’t really have any life to spare, but I know in the end it’ll be all right. I’ll live, I’ll hope, I’ll survive this and the next thing that the universe throws at me.

            Hopefully this passes soon for you. Even if you can’t enjoy things much right now, remember that they’ll be better again one day.

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            “So long as I live, I hope.” I like that – a much needed reminder of the impermanence of situations, not matter how awful they may be. Another thing I keep in mind is that I have – and you too – survived 100% of all my bad days so far, and that’s a pretty good track record. Thank you for your messages,@snarkyjellyfish, truly.

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            You’re welcome. Happy to help in any small way I can. The most important thing I’ve found is to always remember that I’m not alone in the way I feel. Honestly, knowing that has been the biggest factor in moving past my anxieties. And the Beanies are the actual best. I don’t know if you saw my other post, but I was just feeling so low yesterday and I feel so much better after getting it out of my system here. Today’s a new day, and tomorrow will be another one. We just need to make sure to get there alive.

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    Ramadan Mubarak!!!! I hope your fast is going well and your prayers are answered this holy month!

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I took the bait y’all. I started Put Your Head on my Shoulder and I’m smitten with these two adorable lil’ bunnies.

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My hell month is over!

I survived!

(Barely.)

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I’m officially out of my old place. Onward, to new beginnings!

Ugh. I have so much organizing to do now. I think I’ll just drink tea and ignore it for now.

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Why the f-ck is it snowing.

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    And there is so much omg

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      I was gonna go get cinnamon rolls from Ann Sather too, but now I don’t even want to go outside.

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        GAH that sounds so good. There’s one right near Loyola and I would go after my finals were done every semester. I wonder where I can stop by on my way home to get some cinnamon rolls…

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          It stopped for a hot second here and I was just debating making the trip so of course it started coming down hard again. Maybe the weather is trying to keep me from killing myself by heart attack?

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    Not to be mean, but I’m so happy it veered south towards you. It’s cold here, but not cold enough for snow today.

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      I can’t be mad at you for that. The worst part is, it’s not even that cold, but it’s just wet and gross everywhere. I’m so glad I moved most of my stuff last week and it was mostly just garbage today.

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