Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

I decided to try Matrimonial Chaos after you all suggested it, and I’m liking it a lot so far. It’s been a while since I’ve watched a good slice-of-life drama. These characters are beautifully complex and interesting, and I already like all of them. It was a really interesting choice to lead the story with the main couples flaws front and center but I look forward to their growth.

Also, I missed the memo that Wi Ha-joon was in this, which make me even happier that I chose this one. Thanks again bean friends for being your lovely helpful selves.

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Beanfriends, I’m down to one drama (Catch the Ghost) and it’s almost over, so for the first time in years I won’t have any dramas on my watch list. I may try Chocolate but it doesn’t feel like my cup of tea. This is a pared down list of dramas I haven’t gotten around to but I’m not sure where I want to start. I’m also not sure what I’m in the mood for – fluff is always good, but I kind of want something that’ll engross me in its world. Basically I’m overwhelmed.

Because y’all are the best, I thought I’d turn to you for any votes of what to watch/avoid on this list, or even other suggestions.

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    Save Me was good if only to see Woo Do Wan (is that how his name is spelled?) Taceyon not so much.
    Kingdom was good – except for the cliffhanger at the end. grr
    Tunnel was good.
    Those are the only ones I watched that I’d recommend. The rest either I didn’t watch or wouldn’t re-watch them.

    Have you tried watching The Untamed? That will totally take over your world. And it’s only 50 episodes.

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      I have debated The Untamed, but don’t have the time/energy to devote to it right now, so I’m saving it for later to do it the justice it seems to deserve.

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    I haven’t seen all of them but from the ones I have and the things I’ve heard it’s a pretty good list. The only one I didn’t like at all was While You Were Sleeping, which I thought was sloppy and poorly characterised. I hated the end of Tunnel and it did ruin it for me but others don’t feel the same way.

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      I canโ€™t remember where Tunnel went wrong exactly. The first few episodes were pretty amazing but somehow along the way it lost all the steam.

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    I vote for Kingdom, Matrimonial Chaos and Tunnel.

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    I vote Lookout, Kingdom, or Save Me.

    I Hear Your Voice is a hard pass. Save yourself the trouble.

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      wait, I made a mistake. For some reason when I read I Hear Your Voice, I was thinking of I Wanna Hear Your Song. I’ve never seen IHYV, so I have no opinion, but steer clear of I Wanna Hear Your Song.

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        Too late. I watched that, and while it was a trainwreck I’m not actually that mad at it? Like at least it amused me in the end because it was total nonsense.

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        Phew. I was about to do violence for you besmirching IHYV. That was a close call.

        🤣🔪

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        LOL I was going to go defensive when I read your comment about I Hear Your Voice 😅

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    Chief Kim – great ensemble cast, so fun, no central romance, weird underdog
    Matrimonial Chaos – Can I please go live in this drama? No caricatures or routine romances, strong women
    Lookout – addictive thriller with strong women and one so adorable romance (not a main part of the plot)
    The Package – Interesting ensemble cast, romance (but not necessarily centered on this)

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    Matrimonial Chaos!!!
    Just give a few episodes to warm up to the characters and then you are in for a ride.

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    This is a great list but my favorite here is This week my wife will have an affair. It’s an amazing show and wasn’t really mentioned by anyone in the comments so I hoped you won’t overlook it. It is also appropriate for your feelings rn, it’s engrossing while being fun.

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      I came to write about this one but then I saw you have written what I wanted to say:) It really is an amazing drama. I laughed, I got emotional, I learned..

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    This is a good list. I loved Save Me, Chief Kim, Lookout, Kingdom, Tunnel and I Hear Your Voice. All very different types of dramas.

    I haven’t seen all of them but out of the ones I’ve listed above, the only other one I’ve seen but didn’t find anything special was While You Were Sleeping.

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    Oh, pick The Package. Pick It! Pick It! It’s a lovely character driven drama with a lovely backdrop.

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      I’m like, 99% sure this is on my list because I remember you loving it so much.

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        Well…I mean. I DO Love it alot. And if that loves wants to influence you….I haven’t seen every drama on your list, I haven’t seen a majority of the dramas on your list so I can’t say that The Package is better than any of them. But, what I can say is exactly what I’ve said: its a lovely character driven drama. Every single character is likeable. Every single one of them. Even the ones that you think you hate in the beginning. Its a drama that allows characters to be people who grow and change and make mistakes. No one is perfect. When its over its not the drama that you’re going to analyze 50jillions times looking for—I dont know. Whatever it is that people who analyze dramas (…) are looking for. Its a drama that when its over, you sit back and you say to yourself, “I liked those people.”

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    My first choice would be I Hear Your Voice; itโ€™s a Lee Jong Suk breakout drama after all. I didnโ€™t find him more adorable in anything else since then. The drama is great with a chilling villain.

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    Oh you have a nice list!

    A feel good drama like Chief Kim would be great for this time of the year. Character driven dramas like Matrimonial Chaos (quirky characters), The Package (good ensemble cast, nice filming spots, Choi Woo Sik ♥️) and My Wife is Having an Affair This Week (favourite take on adultery so far) are nice too. Lookout has a really great vigilante team with a kickass female lead and my rediscovery of Kim Young Kwang. Save Me will make you rage because of all of the the cult’s actions, support Seo Ye Jin’s strong willed character and break your heart because of Woo Do Hwan’s character.

    Better wait for Kingdom’s season 2 to come out before starting season 1. Other dramas are nice (WYWS could have been better tho), so I don’t know what recommend to watch first.

    Personal recommendation: Pegasus Market, Leverage and VIP.

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      Pegasus and VIP are definitely on my radar, and I’m debating picking up VIP if people keep liking it since it seems to be getting some love on the wall after it’s opening week. Pegasus is being saved for when I really need a laugh – I have a few stressful events going on early next year, so I suspect I’ll need it.

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        Pegasus. Definitely start that one if you want some good laughter amidst some poignant scenes and messages.
        If you like Flashdance, Jesse Ventura (aka the Hulk), Twisted Sister, Goblin, and opera sung in cabbage fields and a group of marvelous dancers in tornado hats, this might be up your alley…

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        Pegasus should be savoured ๐Ÿ™‚ VIP is female centered and Jang Nara is awesome 😍

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    Chief Kim
    Lookout

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    I’m voting for I Hear Your Voice. I loved the heroine. She wasnt perfect, but she knew the power of confidence and a good hair flip. Also, I can see why JB and GF called Lee Jong suk the Noona killer…..or something like that. The characters have some actual growth. Though not a perfect drama I liked it alot.

    This is making me want to do a rewatch.

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      Full disclosure, it is the only one from your list I’ve actually watched.

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    Lookout for sure, and I still have a couple eps left to go from forever ago but I really liked IHYV. The only other one I’ve seen is WYWS which I would definitely say to skip 😅

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I love that Jang Dong-yoon played this role with the dignity it deserved and was still able to make it humorous without being degrading. His efforts were well spent and I am grateful he gave us this character. Both Nokdu and Widow Kim will remain in my memory for a long time.

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@sicarius
Your kingdom has some formidable subjects indeed.

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Catch the Ghost is a lot more compelling than I thought it would be, and this week it completely won me over. Both episodes had a strong emotional core running through them, both dealing with the same topic – being a caregiver – while showcasing different parts of the experience. I think it’s really interesting how the drama is exploring the role of caregivers and the emotional toll that can take on people. What Yoo-ryung did to Yoo-jin was wrong – that is not up for debate – but there is no doubt that she immediately regretted her actions and it’s clear how it has weighed on her every moment since then. Catching the titular ghost isn’t just about catching a murderer, but also obviously refers to confronting and catching her own ghosts. I think that Ji-seok hasn’t gotten as far yet in his journey as a caregiver, but it was clear from his breakdown in the car that he is on the same path. And I think that by meeting Yoo-ryung at this moment in his life he can maybe take another road, where instead of becoming burned out he can learn to balance his own well-being while also being a good son. I also think that Yoo-ryung meeting him will help her to focus her emotional energy and use it more productively rather than simply jumping and following her heart without a clear plan. Also, the chemistry between these two is so good I can’t even. I mean, obviously both Moon Geun-young and Kim Sun-ho are always great, but they are both just fantastic in this.

The one weak spot for me in this drama is the character of Ma-ri, who is genuinely terrible when it comes to how she treats other women. Her character seems to have a lot of internalized misogyny, probably in part because of the way her personal and professional lives are intertwined, but the way she treated the rape victims, as if they were just witnesses and not victims was horrifying. No investigator worth their salt should ever treat a victim like that. Then the way she accused Yoo-ryung was awful. Whether or not she had more evidence for her accusation, it was uncalled for and wrong. She has seen how Yoo-ryung has struggled to find her sister and to accuse her is completely out of line. And I know that a part of this characterization is to contrast her rational way of solving cases to Yoo-ryung’s emotional ways, but that doesn’t make her any less distasteful. And I love Jung Yoo-jin, so I sincerely hope there is some kind of redemption or comeuppance for her.

All in all, I’m pleasantly surprised by how much I like this drama and I am really looking forward to its second half.

https://snarkyjellyfish.tumblr.com/post/189052371598/bananpeze-bonus

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    You said everything I feel about this show!
    This week’s episodes were a lot more heavy than what we’ve seen this far!

    Mari was way too harsh to Yoo Ryung, honestly she has no right to say such things seeing how desperate Yoo Ryung was when she ran to her begging her to find her sister. Ma-ri seems to emotionally detach herself from the victims she meets.. she sees them as only cases that needs to be solved and done with, another thing on her to-do list checked, no one is asking her to be personally involved with them but a little empathy will go a long way!

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    I have noticed this in some other shows too, rape victims being treated as witnesses instead of victims…

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    I got completely different feelings about his show, I thought it had great potential to show things you wrote about but it was ruined for me by how bad the writing is, the character of Mari is one of the examples, the writers paint everything in black and white and not even bother with nuances, not to mention tone deaf because who thought it was a good idea to use a rape case as a background for the beginning of romantic rivalry between to male leads. I think the writers are better at the slice of life moments or emotional anguish (those out of work scenes are really good) but lack sensitivity to weave it into crime stories.

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MFBTY is finally back!
(officially)

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    Did not know they where comeing back! So happy now😄

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      I feel like they’ve been hinting at it all year but I’m happy to see it’s official now.

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        I must have missed it then😅

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          It could also be wishful thinking on my part since I’ve been wanting them to have a comeback forever.

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            I have not been good at following them so I would have no diea until stumbling upon thier new mv lol. I’m a bad fan😅

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            Nah. I was just obsessed with WondaLand, so I’ve been obsessively waiting for official new music, though they have collaborated on things even if it’s not MFBTY per se. And all their solo tracks over the last year or two have been great but they’re SO GOOD when they’re together.

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            WondaLand was so good! I must have missed their collaborations though, it’s hard to keep up. I agree that they are so good together, my wish is to see them live

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I realized the other day that part of why I love Yong-sik in Camellia is that he reminds me of Go Dong-man, from Fight My Way, who may be my favorite male lead ever. I love the meathead puppy types because they are just so earnest and sweet with their feelings – I’m guessing the writer does too, since they wrote both dramas.

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I think the reason I enjoy Tale of Nokdu so much is its portrayal of women. They are strong, independent, capable of handlingย their own affairs, and everyone treats them as such. They aren\’t treated as if they\’re made of glass or less than. (Yes, the gisaengs are looked down on, but not because they are seen as weak by virtue of being women, but rather because of the profession they chose.) This confidence in the way women are treated by the story and the writer is a subtle thing, but it makes the whole tone feel refreshing. It\’s not seen as surprising that the women are so capable of running a society on their own without men.ย 

This is why I find Nokdu so interesting as a character. He doesn\’t treat having to dress as a woman as degrading in any way, nor does he ever treat the women as weaker or below him. Yes, he\’s awkward and nervous, and he plays a bit of a caricature of womanhood, but that is merely a means to keep his disguise going. Moreover, there is no overcompensation or irritating displays of manlinessย when he\’s alone or with Dong-joo. He\’s not embarrassed by his ability to learn the fan-dance in one go. He\’s not taken aback by women being assassins. He never looks down on the women, and while he\’s surprised by the way women socialize, he never seems to think that they aren\’t capable.

I think this works so well because of Jang Dong-yoon\’s portrayal of Nokdu. I noticed that even in the BTS videos Jang Dong-yoon doesn\’t seem overly self-conscious when he\’s dressed as a woman or try to make himself seem manlier to make up for his appearance. He\’s confident in his skin, just as Nokdu is, and that makes such a difference.ย 





(GIFs from setsmaker on Tumblr)

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    With a face like that, hell yeah, you can have allllllll the confidence.

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    I am jealous of his hair. 🤩 How could he look so good with his wet hair? Mine would look like a blob of drenched seaweed.

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    Well said. 👏👏

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      Thank you. I’ve been trying to parse out why this gender-bender feels so fresh since the genre isn’t new (though it’s rarer to have men dress as women) but I finally hit on it the other day and I just got the chance to write it out.

      Also, I may have needed an excuse to have these GIFs on my wall.

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    I’ve not started this (as I am a binge watcher not a live watcher) but that was very well said and makes me even more excited to see this drama.

    And those gifs do naughty things to me 😳🙈

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    Perfectly stated! I have said earlier that itโ€™s portrayal of women is very refreshing from a saguek point of view. And he is also doing a damn good job!

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      Honestly, it’s portrayal of women is refreshing, period. I love that the focus is less on women as women and more on women as a community, if that makes sense? It focuses on what each can contribute and it never questions that, never tries to make the women appear to be “special” and “different” from other women just because of her skillset. Instead, it’s treated as an assumption that everyone has a skillset and uses it to the best of their ability, regardless of gender. The lack of commentary on gender norms makes you forget about gender norms after a time, if that makes sense?

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    *staples this to my forehead*

    YES TO ALL OF THIS

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I’m so happy AKMU is back! Their sound has matured and I love it. I love that they keep growing and evolving their sound. Mad respect to Lee Chan-hyuk for keeping up the writing during his military service. You can hear the influence on his writing.

I’m especially obsessed with this track, “A Fish in Water”. It reminds me of a sea shanty or an English folk song. It also sounds a lot like my favorite singer Frank Turner’s songs “The Opening Act of Spring” and “St. Christopher is Coming Home” but slower and more pensive. Turner often describes his music as “English Folk Punk-Rock” and this fits right into that. It makes me want to move my feet but it also makes me feel like I’m sailing off to sea. And the way their voices blend and separate – that also reminds me of the sea. Lee Soo-hyun’s voice also reminds me a lot of american folk/bluegrass/country singers like Allison Krauss or Patty Griffin here. Every time I listen to this song I hear another influence, et somehow they have blended all these together and made it something uniquely their own – and that ability is a gift. I can’t wait to see what the future holds for these two incredibly talented young siblings.

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    There’re parts which remind me of this song Dirty Paws by Of Monsters and Men. Maybe all that traveling and collaborations while filming Begin Again influenced her a lot.

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      Yes! This too. I knew there was something else. I was dashing off thoughts at midnight before bed and I knew I was missing something. That song also has a very English folk feel to it.

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    This was introduced to me last week and it has been on repeat since then. My favorite song though, is Chantey.
    But all of them are beautiful!

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      I was just giving the album a quick listen before bed and I ended up repeating this track about 5-6 times. But thurs album is their strongest yet. It’s thematically strong yet each track stands completely on its own well. It’ll definitely be getting a lot of play this fall.

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BEAN FRIENDS.

I have made it to the mythical rooftop room. I had given up. I was starting to accept my place as an errand boy. But today I was able to climb to the top of the tallest tower one final time and I was granted the leave to rest my wary feet.

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Gong Hyo-jin has been my #1 fave since my early dramaland days. I have watched every single one of her new dramas since I started this crazy journey into dramaland. I have never been disappointed by her roles or her choices. And I’m happy to say it seems that this streak is going to stay that way.

She has a gift for making me root for even the most irritating-on-paper characters and brings them to life from the moment she steps on screen. I loved her in the first episode of When Camellia Blooms. She was able to show a quiet strength and self-assurance while also being a timid (but not weak) person. It’s a gift to be able to balance that, and it takes skill to sell it so well in a first episode. But I am here for her Dong-baek. I can’t wait to see what this drama brings.

(Also, Kang Ha-neul is adorable and I’m pretty sure I could gush over him too, but that’s a different post for another day.)

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    From the character description, her character in Camellia reminds me of her character in Thank You. She was a strong single mum in that too.

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      That’s one of her older ones I have yet to see, though I really do want to dig into some of her older dramas and see more of her movies. She has a really good eye for strong characters and good stories.

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    Just about to press play. I think both her and Jang Nara have this warmth and quiet strength that they bring to their characters. At least the dramas over seen them in.

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      Yes! I love Jang Nara as well. Both excellent actresses with a good eye for scripts. I’m keeping an eye on V.I.P. next month pretty much because she looks so badass in it. I’m a little worried it’ll be just chaebol scheming and politics, but I was also confused by whatever the descriptions of Last Empress were and that turned out to be an excellent, albeit completely bonkers, ride.

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    I really love her Dong-baek. I have high expectation for this drama, and it seems that it managed to surpass even that. I can’t wait to see the next eps.

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    she is a favorite of mine, ok so who thinks\hopes that the body is that of the klepto waitress( sorry waitress)

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I’m 21 episodes into Le Coup de Foudre and I’m sorry I didn’t watch sooner. This moment really broke my heart, but at the same time, I think this separation was good for them. It allowed Qiaoyi to really grow into herself and gain confidence and open up. I’m not sure she could have done that if she and Yan Mo stayed together.

This is one of the few stories where I really buy that they were falling in love at such a young age. They both bring out the best in one another in such gentle ways, through supporting and believing in one another. All the couples on this show are that way, actually, and I love it because it shows that the best way to love someone is to support them and push them to be their best selves. That’s such a strong foundation and because of that I really can understand why Yan Mo was so hurt by her rejection.

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    I watched the first 2 eps of Le Coup de Foudre and seemed like it could be good, but the skipping around to all different times and the odd interview type format was throwing me off and kinda annoying. Everyone says it’s great so I probably just need to stick with it.

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      I really like the skipping around personally – I like that we know the endgame of the story and then get to watch it develop. But if it did annoy you, stick with it, because it’s less used in the middle episodes. They mostly just use a scene or two from the present to highlight the story in the past that they’re showing.

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    Omg, I love this show so much!!! Especially the first episodes. They are so cute and so awkward, I love it. And yes my heart totally broke for these two during the separation and sometimes made me angry, but I loved them. The music is also amazing, I might end up posting some. Glad to hear another beanie decided to watch it! 😊

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I started Le Coup de Foudre and it’s so sweet and I love the relationships between the characters. It reminds me a lot of one of my all-time favorites, Answer Me 1997, in that respect.

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    I’m stalled partway through, but not because of the show. I just add to many dramas to my plate and then have a hard time finishing all of them.
    I love the sibling relationship here and Zhao Guanchao.

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      Yeah – I’m pretty sure that September is going to be adding at least three new dramas to my watch list, but I had some free time this weekend and it looks like Graceful Family isn’t playing next week, so I figured I could watch this in the meantime. It’s so easy and light and sweet, and I wish I’d watched it earlier.

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    The Zhao family is the sweetest family ever! This drama made me crush on Guanchao when he’s on Big Bro mode 😍

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Is anyone watching Graceful Family? I’m loving it – the female lead is 100% chaotic good and I adore her. I can’t wait to see where this story is going after the end of episode 4.

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    I want to start. Saw some clips on insta and looks fun!

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      I was intrigued by the clips I saw on viki’s youtube. So glad I checked it out. It’s the right balance of predictable drama (chaebols, murder, political machinations) and interesting characters who elevate the material. It’s also nice having the smart chaebol be a woman who takes charge for once. The women in general on this show are absolutely brilliantly written because even the ones that are total stereotypes (like the stepmom and the mistress) feel fully fleshed out and real. But the two female leads (Im Soo-hyang and Bae Jong-ok’s characters) are especially great since they have a lot of ambition and are intelligent and take charge easily. It’s actually really refreshing in a way.

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        A female Chaebol sounds great! thanks for writing about this show. Definitely watching this evening. Am losing interest in most current dramas and wanted something new to start. Started ‘The great Show’. This will the other one. Good thing Viki has completed the subs!

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    i was wondering about this! i may check it out now ๐Ÿ™‚

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      Definitely recommend – it’s a predictable plot in many ways, but is made infinitely better by by the good writing, acting and direction.

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        oh awesome! i don’t mind predictability, if it’s enjoyable and skillfully done. thank you thank you!

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          I won’t lie, I turned it on fully expecting to only half pay attention but I was engrossed from the first episode. Im Soo-hyang has a gift for just disappearing into her characters and making them feel real from the get-go.

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    I’m watching and each episode has been brilliant.

    Im Soo-hang handles her role masterfully. I like the fact that it’s chaebol in-fighting for a change, with no real candy character (maybe the ML?). I’m also enjoying the various twists, e.g., the entire prison storyline. Then that awesome twist with Hal-abeoji at the end of episode four happened. I’m so looking forward to episode five tomorrow.

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      I’m wondering if we’re going to get a Yong Pal part deux/do-over – there the chaebol female lead becomes power hungry and turns into exactly what she wants to destroy. Granted, I dropped that drama three episodes from the end because it just became a hot mess and relegated freaking Joo Won to the sidelines. Kim Tae-hee was good, though. But I feel like this could go that way, or it could go the predictable way of her taking over and cleaning up her family’s mess. I’d honestly be happy either way just because this show is so good so far. I feel like the writer here has an endgame in mind, so hopefully the plotting stays tight and the story and characters keep on track and it pays out.

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    Actually, both the female lead and the head of TOP, are strong ALPHA females. If they were on the same side, …

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      For sure. I love all the female characters because it’s such a well rounded set of female characters and even when the character seems like a stereotype they still feel like a real person.

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    I’ve been wondering about this one. I keep on reading positive things about it.

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    I started it over the weekend and was pleasantly surprised. I hope the female lead stays a strong character. So far she’s pretty refreshing.

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    Thanks so much for the recommendation!! loving it.. Love the entire chaebol family and all the caricatures.. Just got to the part where she goes to jail. And totally loved the way she rubbed on prosecutor’s face and faced it bravely. Atleast there is someone who knows never to trust TOP’s word.
    The eldest son and youngest bonding over gansta talk was hilarious.
    Can’t wait for her to start fighting head on.

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      Yay! I’m glad you like it – I loved the jail storyline. I loved how badass she was after she got over the shock of her arrest. That prosecutor was an asshat and deserved getting kicked down a notch or three.

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I have some Let Me Hear Your Song thoughts. I am loving this show – it has I Remember You vibes but is also totally its own thing, and it feels like the writer has an endgame in mind.

(In comments to avoid spoilers)

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    It seems pretty obvious after Tuesday’s episodes that Kim Ian’s death has to do with some sort of corruption within the symphony/college. But the bigger question in terms of the story is why do we care?

    Why do we care? Because I think the next potential victim is not our mysterious hero, but rather our spurned violinist, Ha Eun-ju. It seems like she’s got a bone to pick and she’s slowly but steadily moving into the crosshairs of whoever is pulling the strings. The comment that bitchy flautist made (something along the lines of “we have ways of dealing with you people”) stood out to me. That implies that people who make waves have been dealt with before – maybe someone like Kim Ian? It seemed more than just a passing comment regarding her power/privilege over Ha Eun-ju. But more than that – it’s clear that there’s something shady going on in the power structures of the musical institutions here.

    First: Kim Ian – what did he know? What was so terrible that they had to kill him for it? It had better be bad – political corruption? Manipulation of leaders? I hope the reveal is worth it. I think that he, like Ha Eun-ju decided not to just sit pretty and take it, but to speak up. And that got him killed.

    As for Ha Eun-ju: first off, I love her. She’s a boss bitch in every sense of the word. She is excellent at her job, and she knows it and owns it. She’s mean, but she’s not deliberately cruel – she merely calls others out on their shit. And her hair is fabulous. (Can we talk about this for a minute? I love the fact that she doesn’t have the sleek shiny hair of a drama actress, but rather, this slightly rough textured wave that reminds me of my own hair once upon a time. It’s refreshing.) But anyway, she is obviously fed up with the machine that insists on holding her back if she doesn’t comply with its corrupt demands. I worry that she’s gonna get herself hurt. Those ending scenes of her talking to Jang Yoon’s father seem like they spell her doom. I think she’s actually a simple woman in what she wants: to play violin, teach, and have love. That actually isn’t unreasonable. She works her ass off to be great, it isn’t just handed to her, and she knows she deserves the recognition and is willing to fight for it.

    Finally: they can’t be spending so much time on Yoon Mi-rae for no reason. She’s not just an angry, overlooked secretary. She knows everyone’s sins. She has more power than anyone, and she’s learning how to wield it – that was clear after that interlude at the cafe yesterday. Now, what side she comes down on in the end is the question. Is she going to take the power or is she going to see justice? She’s been doing the dirty work for so long that she occupies a moral gray area now. I’m genuinely curious as to where this is going.

    Anyway, I have to go to work but hopefully I can be more coherent later.

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      If Ian is JYโ€™s brother, he is the son of wealth and power… which means either the father or someone more powerful had him killed. Right now, the most โ€œpowerfulโ€ figure weโ€™ve seen so far is JY and KIโ€™s father…

      And a comment on our heroine… so, someone like the man in the hat stalks you, breaks into your home, threatens you, and then tells you that you are a murderer…and you pay attention, and give credence to his claim??? Oh, come on…

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        Except that Kim Ian was raised by his mother. And he doesn’t (publically) share a name with his father and brother. And it seems as if he were estranged from his father – so it could be that no one knew he was his father’s son. If that’s the case, then it doesn’t matter who killed him, because they just think they’re killing a pianist, not the son of a powerful man. Remember, it wasn’t even commonly known that Jang Yoon (or whatever his real name is) was Kim Ian’s brother. I kind of wonder if their mother has something to do with it since it seems like she’s famous too. It could be something to do with her as well.

        As for our heroine – I think she gets a bad rap. She’s trusting, and a bit naive, but I don’t think she’s stupid. And why shouldn’t she trust creepy ol’ bucket hat? As far as she knows he’s been more honest with her than anyone else at this point – even her sister has been lying to her. I also think creeper dude genuinely thinks he saw her kill Kim Ian, but I don’t think she did. And I don’t think she 100% trusts bucket hat, but when you’re traumatized you’ll grasp at anything to make sense of what happened to you. She herself doesn’t fully believe she killed him yet.

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          Yes on YY.
          Remember how much she’s been through recently, let alone in the past year? She’s doing better than I frakking would after having found out so much so quickly and been on such an emotional roller coaster.
          If your memories for now seem like you killed him, and the guy you like thinks you may have killed him (and is terrible at communicating his feelings otherwise) and your cousin has tapes that potentially point towards you killing him and a new connection to the past no matter how shady says you killed him, can you really blame her for jumping to what for now seems the logical conclusion? She may not fully believe it yet, but I would 100% be doubting myself after that much and so is she. But even despite all his she still wants to go out and find the truth no matter what, which is incredibly brave of her.

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            👆 This.

            Like, I was just happy she was trying to find to find the truth instead of turning herself in without any basis. And to me it seems like she’s even though she is trusting, she knows better than to believe both anyone’s word or her own memory as truth. I think what makes her such a remarkable character is her conviction and the fact that the truth is somewhere in this mess, and she wants to keep searching for it even if it hurts her in the end.

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            Yes! I like that she’s willing to find the truth no matter the cost, and that the show isn’t treating her as if she’s okay with this either. Twice now she’s been asked if she’s okay and she replies “no, no I’m not”; you can feel the stress and anxiety she’s under, the turmoil they’re both facing. *Reasons why I think this show is secretly brilliant but am apprehensive about its second half nonetheless haha*

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    I loved to watch it ๐Ÿ™‚ I love such revenge drama with good ending ..like SECRET LOVE with JI SUNG OPA the best revenge drama ever ๐Ÿ™‚ and Let Me Hear Your Song is a must watch drama too ๐Ÿ™‚

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I finally started Rookie Historian and I think this is the most I’ve ever liked Shin Se-kyung. Her previous roles often fell flat for me as I found her to never have the same charisma or presence as her costars; but here she completely embodies her bold, sassy historian character and absolutely shines in the role.


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    Same for me too. In her other roles, it’s like she hates the drama. Maybe she just has resting bitch face or something but in the other roles she seemed annoyed to be there and her heart wasn’t in the acting. Like in The Girl Who Sees Smells…it was the cringiest romance I’ve ever seen because it looked like she really did not want to kiss the male lead and she was being forced LOL

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      I mean, to me she was always like, aggressively fine. She could do exactly what the role wanted her to do but there was never that extra spark – something that she alone could have brought to the role. Here she brings the role to life – it’s not just a character but a person . I don’t know if this is genuine improvement or just that she connected with the material better or a good director, but whatever it is, I’m enjoying it.

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    Maybe it’s her choice of drama that makes us hate the drama and by extension, hate her character? I remember hating Blade Man and Bride of Water God so much

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      I don’t know – I mean, she was also in Six Flying Dragons and Tree With Deep Roots, both generally considered some of the best historical dramas. I’ve only seen the former and she was just fine in it, but like I said above, she wasn’t bringing anything to the role, and her acting paled in comparison to those around her. The problem isn’t that she’s a terrible actress, it’s that she is a bland one – she’s serviceable in roles, but I have never understood why she is a leading lady when there are actresses who do a better job and elevate the material they are given.

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This lovely GIF was the first thing that greeted me when I opened my laptop tonight, thanks to past Snarky being too tired to save it and close the tab.

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OK y\’all, realtalk: how cute exactly is Rookie Historian? Because I need some cute and I\’m debating starting it but I\’m not super into historical dramas that get caught up in political/palace machinations, but I can overlook it if the cute is abundant.

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    I think there is enough cute with main leads, side kicks and historians.
    I am usually not into palace politics either, but so far the show has kept that to a minimum. It’s interesting enough but not overwhelming.
    Go for it!

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      It looks like it’s pretty light, but I’ve had a hard time getting into historical dramas. I do like a few: Arang and the Magistrate is a personal favorite. I also love the more straight historical dramas like Six Flying Dragons and Bridal Mask where the story centers on the politics so they’re not just background noise. But so many fusion romantic comedies seem to end up focusing on palace politics in the second half and I just can’t.

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    I decided when I started it to skip the boring politics and keep the cute, the fun and the friendships. During the first couple of weeks I had to skip quite a few moments but for the last 2 weeks I had very little to skip, because the cute, fun and friendship is the heart of the show (as well as some heart-break, but they hurt so good) and the politics has become secondary (and I much prefer that), so I recommend it!

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      So, my thing is I don’t fastforward or skip (I may pay less attention at parts though). If there are boring bits I’m OK but I don’t want to spend half the drama not paying attention for like 5 scenes of cute. But this seems to have a good cute to politics ratio, so I may give it a shot.

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    You get 50% cute leads (30% Hae-ryung and 20% Rim) 25% cute secondary characters and relationships that grow and 25% politics. A pretty good ratio if you ask me.

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      That is exactly the kind of ratio I’m looking for! I’m thinking I’ll give it a shot this weekend.

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I went to a classical music concert for the first time in years last night, and it reminded me how much I love live classical music (but also, CANNONS, because it was a performance of Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture with real cannons).

It also reminded me of one of my all time favorite dramas, Nodame Cantabile and how the music was a character of its own in the drama, and served to highlight the emotions of the story and add depth to seemingly shallow storylines. I love that the drama started off with the characters playing this piece together and ended with the same, bookending the story beautifully by showing how much they have grown emotionally while still remaining true to themselves.

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    ah, you’re going to make me cry

    I get so emotional now whenever i see nodame play. I miss this drama.

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      I know what you mean – the way these two love music is incredibly moving. I love it though, it’s one of the few dramas I revisit regularly and watch through beginning to end. It’s just such a lovely story, though I’m not as crazy about some of the movies in the middle. I did like the ending though – it felt fitting and very full circle.

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        I have watched the drama when i was 11 years old, the 2 sp too probably around that time, but i kind of always thought i had watched the movies, until i decided to watch Nodame again more than 10 years later. I cried sooooo much at the end. Like you said, it felt fitting and very full circle. It made me feel like i just closed a chapter of my life ? It was probably one of my worst post-drama depression… I watched it for the first time 10 years earlier, and finished it 10 years later, not so long after deciding to stop playing cello.
        It’s not the most “objectively good” drama, but i love it so much.

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    My cousin is taking care of an elderly musician with dementia. She’s like 86 years old and plays mostly Bach or Wagner non stop. She has to remind her nicely that it’s a bed time. I was like, that’s so wonderful!!! But maybe not. It reminds me of the movie Shine about David Helfgott. Geoffrey Rush was excellent and I would love to hear good interpretation of Rachmaninoff every day, it calms my soul. I don’t like robotic austrian school of classical music but some sort of music can handle that one as well.

    I loved the manga Nodame Cantabile more than those series but you can’t listen to the music unless you prepare it yourself.

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    This is on my watchlist since forever ago. I still need to watch it! I’m a season ticket holder to our local symphony and absolutely love it. My family doesn’t get me when it comes to classical music. EVEN NOW, as my son is practicing his piano and playing a Mozart Sonata–like a robot–it’s killing me.

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      Nodame is not perfect by any means, but it does hit the right notes emotionally for me. As for how I got into classical music – it was the first music I was exposed to, literally. My mother says that when she was pregnant with me she would get home from work and her mother and mother-in-law would start nagging, so she would go lock herself in her bedroom and play classical music loudly to avoid them. Neither of us play, but one of my closest friends is a composer and pianist, and I love going to see her play.

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    Are you watching I Wanna Hear Your Song? I’m a noob about classical music but this is beautiful and the way they use it. I believe that Beanies have mentioned that the actors are convincing as musicians also. Plus the conductor is beautiful.

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      Yes! Ans I am loving it, especially the use of music. It’s the same director as the Korean remake of Nodame, which wasn’t as good but I’m still fond of. I was thinking about it while watching yesterday too.

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    As a classical musician myself, this warms my heart to hear! I play the viola and have been greatly blessed with the privilege to perform with orchestras around the world! I actually played in Seoul last summer with the National Youth Orchestra of the United States and seeing peopleโ€™s faces light up because of the live music is why I do what I do. Being in a crazy rigorous and competitive music conservatory makes it easy to forget that people outside of the classical music world can enjoy music in a way that sometimes even musicians canโ€™t enjoy it. While weโ€™re busy analyzing and critiquing and criticizing our music, there are people around the world who can be washed over with pure joy just because itโ€™s music. Such a good reminder! Thank you for sharing. <3

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      Oh wow, that’s wonderful. One of my best friends is a pianist and composer, so I’ve seen her perform a few times and I know it’s competitive and tough business. I hadn’t been to see a proper orchestra play classical pieces in a while but I am blessed to live in a city where there are lots of free and cheap opportunities to see great music performed. The symphony orchestra here plays a lot of shows free in summer and there’s a major summer-long classical music festival, so the opportunities are abundant. I need to take more advantage, honestly. I’m more of a rock concert goer myself, but I love music and it’s such an integral part of my life, and classical music was the first music I was exposed to; literally – my mother says that she used to lock herself in her bedroom and play the classical station really loud when she was pregnant with me and wanted to avoid her mother and mother-in-law’s nagging.

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      Oh, but sometimes it looks like the musicians are completely in love and living some work they’re performing. Do you have a favourite piece or a composer?

      I literally didn’t listen to classical music until I was like 16. There my teacher of Aesthetics was playing Bach’s Concerto for two violins and Debussy’s first electronic symphony – interpretation of whales communication and I fell in love with it and didn’t quit since. My dream is to play piano once, but wouldn’t force my kids to do it just because I love it.

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So, I’m watching My First First Love right now and one of the things I really like about this drama is how the leads never say that they don’t see one another as a man/woman like most friends-to-lovers dramas do; instead they seem to recognize and acknowledge their attraction but also realize that the relationship they have right then is more important. I like how frank Song-yi was about it when Do-hyun asked her whether she’d ever had feelings for Tae-oh, and how she didn’t skirt around the subject or brush it off, but instead was honest but also clear that she was committed to the relationship in front of her.

I also like how the relationships that Song-yi and Tae-oh are in feel real and not just like they’re killing time until they get to the other. Though Tae-oh’s girlfriend is The Worst and an evil manipulative spoiled brat and I can’t wait to see the last of her. But Do-hyun and Song-yi are adorable, and I’m curious as to how they end, because I think they have genuine feelings and if it weren’t for Tae-oh I could really root for them.

But also, these two dummies clearly love one another and I need them together ASAP.

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