Beanie level: Errand boy

Terius Behind Me | Ep. 12: Ha! Is it too much to hope that the show is actually trolling its own sponsor? Honestly, the submarine sammich love is beginning to feel excessive.

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Terius Behind Me | Ep. 2: Enjoying this show to bits, when time allows. I guffawed at the sight of the dress label. As adverbs go, “moistly” is all kinds of wrong for a clothing line.

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Asian Boss: hits the streets of Columbus, Ohio to see how many Asian countries Americans can identify. How about ‘choo?

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    This is great. Almost every American on a barstool has an opinion about Kim Jong Un but hardly anyone can even find Korea on a map 🤦🏻‍♀️
    Yay for US Beanies, swimming against the tide!

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    Thank you Midwestern Americans for showcasing our ignorance. As embarrassing as it is that my people cannot identify North and South Korea, Japan, Singapore, and others, how can you not at least identify China and India? How?

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      It’s frightening. Our collective ignorance is so sad.

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        I wonder if the makers of such videos leave out interviewees who do correctly identify these places. So basically the impression of ignorance that the video gives is more shocking than it would otherwise be, if it were mixed with the proportionate number of people who can identify it.

        (Note: haven’t watched the video yet. Have always seen too many like this – stopped watching them years ago)

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          In this particular case, I believe the video is a fair representation of Americans’ knowledge of Asian countries. Case in point: When my daughter was working and studying in China and Hong Kong, my in-laws repeatedly said she was in Japan. No matter how often corrected, and even knowing she studied and spoke Chinese, they couldn’t (or wouldn’t) differentiate between Japan and China.

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          This group did much better than I expected, better than the people shown on typical US comedy shows where I pray they do edit out the smarter people (oh please tell me that’s true). I really agree with the explanation given by the last young man, we just think the world revolves around us. And if it’s any consolation, I wonder if we’d be any better at identifying American states.

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            Haha well, this reminds me of this popular joke about food shortage in the rest of the world:

            “Last month, a worldwide survey was conducted by the UN — The only question asked was: “Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the food shortage in the rest of the world?”

            The survey was a HUGE failure.

            In Africa they didn’t know what “food” meant.

            In Eastern Europe they didn’t know what “honest” meant.

            In Western Europe they didn’t know what “shortage” meant.

            In China they didn’t know what “opinion” meant.

            In the Middle East they didn’t know what “solution” meant.

            In South America they didn’t know what “please” meant.

            And in the USA they didn’t know what “the rest of the world” meant.”

            No offence meant from me. 🙂 I dunno what type of crowd they’re surveying when they do these surveys (in the video) – because if they came and asked the Americans on DB, the result would be very different. These types of “surveys” should be taken with a grain of salt given the sample size & various other factors IMO.

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            @greenfields That’s a great joke! Great.
            Sadly, the town where they did the video is the location of one of our largest and best-regarded state (Ohio) universities.

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            I too was wondering if they’d be any better at identifying US states. I doubt it.

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            Ah.hahaha – I give up then.😅 The situation is sad indeed.

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A very funny, thoughtful episode of Asian Boss. Can South Koreans meet the challenge of speaking Korean without using any English loanwords?

I must say that “pre-made food indicator” is my favorite substitute for “menu.”

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Awkwafina hilariously describes a brief post-college relationship that opened her eyes to the value of being herself. I’m all for NOT pretending that I’ve read Infinite Jest.

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    “The body of a graphic designer.”

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    I’d have a great time hanging out with her. Riffs from My Cousin Vinny? Yes please.

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      Yeah, she’s my kind of woman! She stole her scenes in Ocean’s 8 and I can’t wait to see Crazy Rich Asians this weekend!

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@linda-palapala (and any other Beanie still watching)—It took me longer than expected to process the last two episodes of Legend of Fuyao. With the fate of the world at stake, I expected Episodes 65-66 to be bloody. Considering last week\’s acute physical and emotional trauma, the lack of a more coherant denouement left me baffled and wanting more.

Thankfully, I\’m not watching alone! I saw linda-palapala\’s post about ending\’s ambiguity and I\’d love to hear what you think after having had a few more days to process.

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    IS THAT ALL THERE IS?
    Many fans are complaining the ending felt rushed. For me, the problem stems from the lack of catharsis and celebration. As an invested viewer, I needed a little more time in the new world Fuyao and Wuji are fashioning for themselves and the Five Regions. A smidge of exposition wouldn’t have hurt.

    Don’t give us two relentless hours of this:

    and only fleeting minutes of this:

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    DEAD OR ALIVE?
    Given that our OTP triumph and are alive at the novel’s end, I was initially confused by the drama’s last scene. Are they dead or alive?

    The last scene looks heavenly but I don’t think this is paradise in the sense of an afterworld. Wuji survived the Evergreen Palace Punishment—a feat unmatched in a thousand years—so does that mean he claims his inheritance of Firmament?

    I believe they’re alive, having transcended the boundaries separating earthly and heavenly realms. I love linda-palapala’s suggestion that Wuji’s teasing about Fuyao being heavier refers to her pregnancy.

    What that means for their respective kingdoms is beyond me. You couldn’t pay to slog through the novel (which was loosely adapted anyway) so I’m content with summaries assuring us that they’re alive and making babies.

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      *Typo: You couldn’t pay me to slog …

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      After thinking a few days about it and re watching it, they were overlooking their peaceful realm. It was quite beautiful, really. No matter what the ending, you’re never going to satisfy everyone!
      The novel’s name is “Empress Fuyao”, I think. And what else could his comment mean! Although I wouldn’t have picked up on it if someone didn’t mention the novel’s ending. And another twitterer said the same thing, that meant she was preggers.

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      What’s funny is I watched the last second of their bloody selves holding hands and the camera panning out a dozen times and they were still moving…so I parsed that moment to say yeah, for sure they’re still alive.

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    What did you hope to see in the series finale?
    Is it too much to ask to see their squad celebrate their triumph over evil? A glimpse of their wedding night? A trio of bee-yoooo-tiful toddlers?**


    **Note: In real life—even as a parent myself—I don’t think having children is the end-all-be-all of human existence. In the context of this story, having legitimate progeny or “heirs” is essential for their royal houses.

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      Yes, but this is fantasy, not reality and those of us romantic ladies always want babies at the end, beautiful babies (not toddlers though, or crying infants).

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    4:30 am here and I couldn’t sleep so I’ll just say one thing right now. After watching the finale about 10 times I’m satisfied they’re not in some heavenly realm but in the real world. I really didn’t need any more than that, as they’ve been lovey dovey thru the whole series (and I can use my imagination anyway). I’m re watching and in an early episode the doctor tells Wuji because he’s kind he will bring peace to the world. There’s so much more exposition at the beginning that I remembered.

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      4:30 am typo: there’s more exposition THAN I remembered.
      I’ve been worried we hadn’t heard from you in so long, that you might have been really upset with the ending. So glad you’re back!

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        I got slammed with work and was too tired to even look at DB this week. Now I’ll rewatch some of my favorite bits and take a break before starting something new. This is why I generally don’t watch more than one C-drama at a time.

        Watching with you and other Beanies definitely made it more fun, @linda-palapala ;D

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          I did have a couple of questions I don’t quite get. Don’t remember the exact words but he kept saying he’d follow her to the “mortal”? world, or was it the mundane world? I don’t know enough about Chinese cultural beliefs or perhaps it’s just Chinese fantasy tropes (which I’ve found is called Xianxia not wuxia). Perhaps we’re trying to put Western afterlife as opposed to human life ideas instead of Eastern beliefs on it. I’m looking for some tropes of the particular genre and also belief systems such as Taoism, but this is so new to me it takes awhile to get a grasp. I love learning new things and being introduced to new worlds and concepts to broaden my Western view of things.
          If you’re interested here’s a link, but I think it’s incomplete to what info I’m looking for. I did try to watch another fantasy but immediately noticed similarities and didn’t want to ruin LoF right now!
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianxia_novel

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            After reading a bit more about Xianxia I’m not sure LoF quite fits.
            And I agree with you, I tried to watch something else but I’m still not over LoF and especially can’t start another fantasy yet! But I usually re watch really good dramas because I never catch everything the first time around. If you get time to read the wiki article on xianxia I’d like your opinion of the 1) heavenly realm, 2) mortal realm as it applies to LoF because I’m unsure about it. Was the Firmament the heavenly realm? Was Wuji an immortal? As you asked, did he accept his position in the Firmament as well as being Crown Prince, now emperor and she’s Empress? So many unanswered questions!

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            This is very interesting, @linda-palapala! Thanks for sharing the link on xianxia novels. You are right to place Empress Fu Yao in the xianxia genre!

            You’ve probably already seen this: The last lines of the drama come directly from the novel’s introduction. The speakers aren’t identified and for all I know, it was originally Wuji talking to someone else about Fuyao. Translator seems quite professional and includes footnotes too.

            I’d glanced at this translation when the series started but didn’t have the stomach for reading an online novel. (It’s enough work keeping up with my book club!) Plus, there are so many differences between the novel and drama that I just wanted to stick with the drama.

            Ninja-reflection compared the drama’s characters to the novel’s. Keeping the time travel would’ve been interesting but I’m relieved the TV adaptation dropped the everybody-loves-Fuyao dynamic.

            The recapper also summarized the novel’s ending. In the comments, Ninjareflection also chimes in on the show’s conclusion, acknowledging that Wuju’s poetic imagery about the “mortal world” added to the confusion of whether the protagonists were still alive.

            Ninja-reflection is one of my favorite C-drama recappers, thanks to their thorough recaps (with generous screen caps) for Love Lost in Time. I clung to this site as I caught up with LLiT when it was already about 3/4 complete.

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            @tsutsuloo: Oh, wow, thanks for the links! Going to check them now. I don’t like certain reviews or recaps if I love a drama so much I don’t want anything negative at all to burst my love bubble! I’m especially wanting to read the LLIT And – the last line comes from the intro, ooh. I’m glad they didn’t do the time travel too. Now I’m off the check the links…

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            @tsutsuloo I loved the link to the novel’s ending. What an enjoyable read. The ending words in the drama that were the first words in the novel, I can’t help but think though it was nice, it might have had more to do with the fact she time traveled.
            I had originally thought Chang Qing was the real bad guy too, not the father. Don’t know why, except that in every nation they went to they got rid of the bad guys and replaced them with righteous rulers (his friends..).
            I loved the explanation of Wuji being the reincarnation of the first Master and how FuYao was the lotus. That was beautiful.
            Looking forward to reading the recaps of LLiT but that will take awhile. And thanks for the links!
            The only novel I’ve read is the one that Love Me If You Dare comes from. Talk about racy. Wow.

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    Last thoughts: I guess for you the ending was incomplete because you would have loved more time with them in their happiness. While that would have been really really nice…
    For me, the question was were they in the mortal realm at the end or the heavenly realm. I choose to think they were in the mortal realm and their view was looking over their kingdom.
    However, my question is what did he mean when he said he would follow her anywhere, specifically mentioning he would follow her to the mortal realm (or mundane world, can’t remember which term. Viki and DF translates things differently). It doesn’t really matter to me which realm they’re in, but I think they’re watching over the mundane world. (and she preggers).
    But what happened to the evil witch (name?)? She said she was ascending. If there was any reason for another season with this couple to continue the fight, I’d be for it.

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      I’m content with the ending. When I recall the worst k-drama or c-drama head-scratching endings, I’m happy enough.

      As for what happened to Fei Yan, I hope she just went *poof* along with that stupid rock when Fuyao stabbed herself.

      Someone on ninja-reflection brought up the point that other half of Di Feitian’s consciousness (or whatever Chinese Voldemort was) was still under the lava lake in Xuanji kingdom. Yeesh, I don’t want to think about it. Can we just agree that he’s gone to same place as witchy Fei Yan and call it day?

      One question I had was how the heck did Xiao Qi get so good at fighting? We first saw him fight valiantly to protect the people of Yao City. But he like a damn superhero on the bridge on Mt. Emotionless.

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        Well you can never truly defeat evil. (According to one of my little Buddhist students who’s not only precocious but she’s also a genius in the making).
        I’m wondering at all their fighting skills. I’m wondering why Wuji had so many supernatural powers – did he learn them in the Firmament or did he have them naturally? I still don’t get how he was a descendant. So either re watch because I missed something or learn more about fantasy tropes and Chinese spiritual beliefs (any suggestions on links to info?).

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          His martial arts skills were part of his cultivation in the Firmament though he begin his training as a child at home. He never sparred with his uncle though, who was amongst the best swordsman in their kingdom.

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      An anonymous commenter on ninja-reflection said the c-drama The Rise of Phoenixes features a woman named Feng Zhi Wei, apparently a descendent of Fuyao. The source novel’s author is Empress Fuyao’s author, Tian Xia Gui Yan.

      The 70-episode series just started on Tuesday and seems to be a dialogue-heavy palace drama. The main female protagonist is the beautiful, intellectual Feng Zhi Wei (played by Ni Ni) who flees to an academy to (improbably) pass as male scholar to survive after being cast from her home. Similarly to Fuyao, Zhi Wei first encounters her future lover, 6th prince Ning Yi, when he’s disguised as someone else.

      If this series ever gets translated, I’ll consider watching it in a few months if the reviews are good—and if there are moments of levity. It’s not available on legal streaming sites either. Trailers look sumptuous though. This trailer has English subs if you click on the CC button.

      @linda-palapala—Keep me posted on other C-dramas or Chinese-language films you might watch in the future. Once schools starts next month (for my kid and for myself), I’m severely curtailing my dramas. I hope to make time for films a few times a month. ;D

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        A descendant of FuYao? Well there you go. That seals the deal they were in the mortal world and had kids. I did see a trailer for Rise of Phoenixes (I believe) or it was on DramaPanda site which I like.http://www.dramapanda.com/2018/08/the-rise-of-phoenixes-ratings.html
        Interesting you mentioned “moments of levity”. It just struck me last night that was one reason LoF stood out among the others to me, because it didn’t take itself too seriously (though there were plenty of serious moments) and the moments of levity were so good, mainly due to Ethan and Mimi’s good acting and directing. Although Prince Fiend (DF’s translation) was pretty funny too.
        As far as curtailing dramas, after LoF I can’t get into anything else. This is worse than usual. Do you have any other suggestions where the drama doesn’t take itself too seriously? I have Ruyi’s Royal Love in the Palace on my watchlist when it begins but the trailer seemed way too serious, so I dunno.
        But if you have a whole month before school starts to watch…I haven’t seen many Chinese dramas, but my favorites are Lost Love in Times, Nirvana in Fire 2, Wu Xin Monster Killer, Siege in Fog (though the writing wasn’t quite as good). I tried Peach Blossoms but can’t get into it, maybe after a few months when I’m over LoF. There are others I like, but not as much as the above. Have you seen Secret of the Three Kingdoms?
        There are some films I have on the Watchlist. Ethan Ruan: Paradise in Service is really good. I have New York, New York to watch. These are heavier though.
        School here has already started. Since I teach piano the kids are now coming back and I’ll have to limit time to watch too.
        I have thoroughly enjoyed our conversations and hope we can find another drama to share! I can’t imagine liking anything better than LoF in the future, but I have said those words before! Keep me posted every once in awhile if you find something interesting too.

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          Of the Chinese dramas you listed among your favorites, I’ve only seen LLiT. I’ll add the others to my watchlist for a rainy day. Although the book doesn’t interest me, I will likely watch Rich Crazy Asians in the theaters.

          You’re a piano teacher? I figured your were a professional musician or academic because of your encyclopedic knowledge of music—I love how you pick out the faintest strains of background music! 😀

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            Since music is the language of emotions, music in dramas can either intensify the emotions or absolutely ruin it. I loved the musical score in LoF, either funky, lighthearted, it captured the mood of the scene beautifully and it was – different – from most other ordinary musical scores in dramas.
            Siege in Fog is a Republican era so you have to expect a sad ending. Wu Xin, the same. I thought the ending of Wu Xin was cruel. These aren’t nearly as good or grand as LLiT or LoF, but 2nd best sometimes has to do. I don’t mind sad, bittersweet endings if it isn’t just random.
            I loved how the recap/reviewer was just as confused with the ending of LLiT as I was!

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            The more I think about it, the more I think the last things Wuji said were an homage to the novel’s beginning lines. Those lines make perfect sense for the novel, but not so much for the drama.

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    Here’s a comment from Ally that I really like:
    “And I finished Fuyao with the hubby lastnight. I see what the fuss was about! But I think the final scene was really the first scene of their story, when they started out as dieties and he says that he would go through the trials of the mortal world to find her and be with her if he had to—-and the ready of the story we saw was him doing that.”
    That’s beautiful. The beginning and the end. (I still think she’s pregnant at the end”.

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      @tsutsuloo You “liked” before I could say something else…The more I think about it the more this statement really clears things up and gels the drama into a cohesive whole. Wuji makes the statement at the beginning but he doesn’t know it will be Fuyao he’s talking about. Then at the end of the drama, he restates. But was FuYao actually a deity to begin with? Somehow I missed that, which isn’t surprising with my adult ADD daydreaming.

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Checking in with Fuyao lovin’ Beanies @giegie0384, @linda-palapala, @belladonna—Are you ready for tomorrow’s conclusion of Legend of Fuyao? Week 7 was emotionally wrenching for all the characters but I feel like Wuji (and actor Ethan Ruan’s facial muscles) got the brunt of last week’s pathos.

More in the comments …

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    Lots of good crying and blubbering from Ethan Ruan in Episode 64 of Legend of Fuyao

    This laugh-cry is especially lovely

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      My comment disappeared – try again. Ethan gives such a great emotional performance in these episodes. I knew they were coming since the last kingdom they go to is his family’s. Now to the conclusion and the Ancient Firmament. I hope it’s true that it’s a happy ending and not some false imagination thing. I’ll believe it tomorrow.
      I can’t imagine another fantasy is going to be this good anytime soon. In fact I’m already on episode 3 again. And watching some of his movies – New York, New York and Paradise in Service.
      Hopefully we’ll have a final discussion!

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        Yes! I want our WuFo to have a real happy ending and not some sort of Inception-type bubble.

        I’m looking forward to Ethan’s future projects and wouldn’t mind if he did a short, frothy little rom-com with lots of flirting. ;D

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      Ethan Ruan is good! ^^
      I love his scene with his Emperor dad, my favorite this week and one of my faves in the entire drama. I lost it when the Emperor asked “Why are you not my son?” *sobs*

      Can’t wait for the last two episodes.

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        The Emperor was heartbreaking. Messed up but heartbreaking.

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          I thought that was amazing writing. Not only did the emperor love/hate Wuji but the writers made us hate/love the Emperor. They messed with our minds almost as much as the Emperor’s confession messed with Wuji.
          How powerful was what Wuji said about the father he had turned out that he hated him and the man Wuji hated the most gave his life for him.
          Incredible writing. Incredible performance.

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            Oops, just woke up didn’t have coffee yet…what Wuji said about the father he loved and respected actually hated him…

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      This same sort of scene was in Nirvana in Fire 2. Liu Hao Ran said he was really stressed out about the crying and I guess they did the scene enough times that his eyes were swollen. Wish I could find that interview again.

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      Your GIFs are too good. Too good!!!!!!!!

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      I just watched the last 15 minutes raw and it was mostly conversation, so I still can’t tell! The final scene looks like Paradise, but the music fits a real happy ending. I can hardly wait for the subs!

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    I found this quote from an interview with Liu Hao Ran (NIF2) and the quote about the wind fits the meaning of the word “fuyao” wonderfully:
    That’s why Liu Hao Ran wrote The Eye of the Storm. In his acting projects, he is portraying a character, but the stories in the book are entirely his own. Photography is a great way to record unfiltered reality, so the young actor and his young photographer wanted to keep the pictures as natural as possible. In his book, Liu Hao Ran mentions that maybe in a few years, when he’s no longer as young, he will be “heavier”. His hope is, at that time, he will no longer panic when he’s being carried by high speed, spinning winds, and that he will no longer worry about giving so much that he is left feeling hollow. “What if the wind is bigger then?”, the youth asks. But when it comes to growing up, there have never been any clear answers. The wind can enable you to fly very high; it can take you to the ocean, or it can keep you on the meadow or in the forest – it can take you anywhere.

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    Correction: Ethan Juan. Have I been misspelling his name for weeks?

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    Finale: so many questions! Did Fei Yan ascend to cause trouble in a possible 2nd season? Does anyone know what happens in the novel between Fuyao defeating Feitian’s black smoke and the paradise they’re in at the end? More questions but I’ll wait for you…

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Throughout The Legend of Fuyao, Wuji and Fuyao have been #relationshipgoals. I love how they continually express their mutual respect and reaffirm their commitment. While their physical appeal is obvious, their bond is forged through shared trials and the desire to transform the kingdom.

I’m also grateful that they just want to grow old together, which minimizes the Nobel Idiocy. Lovers who use their words as well as their lips are beyond sexy!

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    I am still catching up (around episode 52) but was delighted that they decided to stick together instead of letting us go through another angsty separation. I live for the WuFu scenes!

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    I love this sentence.

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I was surprised and moved by the Legend of Fuyao Ep. 60-61 story arc shared by Wuji’s Royal Aunt, Xuanyuan Xiao (nickednamed A’rong) and her estranged husband Prince De. Having regained her sanity, she was devastating as she delivered the truths her ex needed to hear. Even though she would not forgive him, she still gave him gave him a tender sendoff before his last battle!

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    It took me a couple of minutes to recognize her and put two and two together. I was wondering if her daughter is really dead because who else is going to take the throne, assuming Wuji rejects it, assuming he and Fuyao come out alive, assuming they decide to live a normal life. Will all this be answered or will it be rushed at the end as some have said?
    So she isn’t really Wuji’s aunt then. She’s his stepmom…

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      Just to make things more messed up, I wonder if Lian’er, XX’s beloved lost daughter, was Tai Yan Fei Yan’s bitchy disciple.

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        I’m not sure we’ll find out what actually happened to her. Guess we can talk about it in a few hours! So curious as to where they really are in the last scene on that bridge, and where have I seen those clothes before?

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          *sigh* I won’t be able to watch the finale until later tonight, after work and my book club. I’ll look for your on your fan page!

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            I’ll get it on Viki raw in a few hours, but DF won’t have it until late this afternoon (Pacific Daylight Savings Time). Viki won’t have it subbed until late night. I’m just hoping that I can tell the ending when it’s still raw.

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        I hope she isn’t, but I can’t think of any other females in the series. Won’t she be Wuji’s half sister?

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      Also, the thought of something being rushed after 66 freaking episodes is so puzzling. Fingers crossed …

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Legend of Fuyao Week 6 and 7 have been pretty exciting as we finally get some answers about Fuyao\’s origins before rushing towards the climax. I know there\’s still a lot of agony ahead for our OTP but I\’m hopeful for a sweet outcome.

I\’m trying to just go with the flow without spending too much time making GIFs. And yet Vengo Gao\’s \”emotions\” from Ep. 49 cannot be denied. He looks like he\’s trying to dislodge a booger without touching his nose. My childhood cat made a similar expression after encountering another cat\’s musk.


I\’d love to hear from Beanies still following Fuyao (including @linda-palapala, @giocare, @ally-le, @ultramafic, @jozie, @trina, @asianromance, @kimbapnoona, @trinpie, @giegie0384, @belladonna):

1) What drove you crazy (with delight or frustration) from the most recent batch of episodes?

2) Are you diving into spoilery Twitter and YouTube?

3) Who\’s the best couple? (Including bromances!)

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    🙈 This particular scene of his was painful to watch 😂 He’s seriously ruining my love for Legolas-like Dojin!

    1. Thankfully less cray cray this week but WuJi’s mother frustrated me. Why is she and Prince De are so selfish? Why are they acting like they did nothing wrong? I felt bad for the emperor but I didn’t like what he did to WuJi’s mother, FuYao and WuJi, although I totally understand his actions.

    2. Twitter is my go-to when I need spoilers more than youtube. I liked what I saw last night. ^^

    3. FuYao & WuJi of course! I love them, and WuYi is dethroning YeHua as my favorite C-drama male character. ^^
    Pretty Doc & WuJi. <3

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      Do you think it’s Ethan Ruan’s acting that seals the deal? I don’t know who YeHua is, so I can’t compare. But between them, the chemistry, he’s killing it, and I guess the directing. Did you read the twitter article of his interview where he said at one point it was so intense toward the end that he fainted? And she was so exhausted she just stayed there on her knees after the scene.

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        YeHua is the male lead character in the drama Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms (Yang-mi’s previous drama), and is played by Mark Chao. I don’t think it’s the acting because both Mark Chao & Ethan Ruan are excellent actors. Mark had an explosive chemistry with Yang-mi as well. It’s just that WuJi is playful and has more personality (and Ethan is doing a great job portraying him) than stoic YeHua, who shows less to no emotion, but Mark has a really expressive eyes. He can act using his eyes alone. He’s perfect as YeHua. It’s just that I’m so inlove with the drama right now so currently it’s WuJi. I’m quite it will change back to YeHua once I rewatch Peach Blossoms.

        I think that’s the rain scene, he fainted four? times iirc.

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          I’ve heard so much about Ten Miles but it seems I tried long ago to watch but couldn’t get into it. I’ve heard other fans say LoF has replaced Ten Miles as their favorite. I wouldn’t be able to even try until I’m well over LoF! The fact that Mark has expressive eyes is very intriguing, that’s such an important aspect of acting.
          Yes, it’s Wuji’s playfulness and charm and Ethan’s ability to carry it off that’s the “hook, line and sinker” for me.

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            Ten Miles is very addictive! Yang-mi’s character in FuYao is better than her character in Peach though. Story-wise, I like Peach more than FuYao. Ethan is a passionate actor whereas Mark is subtle, at least as YeHua.

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            I usually go for passionate instead of subtle. Scorpios are known to be too passionate anyway, and both my daughter and I are Scorpios. As long as we’re on the subject, my daughter says why are there so many American actors who are Leos, and I say, why are there so many Asian actors who are Scorpios!

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          Another nice thing is both Ethan Ruan and my daughter have the same birthday.

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      Just finished 58. The music at her coronation gave me chills! Everything is so beautiful.
      Seems to me Ethan is more than acting, it’s like he’s really into Yang Mi, not just FuYao. Either he’s a fantastic actor, or he was really taken with her.

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        Maybe it’s a little of both—that is, Ethan Ruan is a deeply emotional actor who loves his characters’ world. Then again, it’s not surprising that actors often crush on their acting partners.

        My job as a UX Designer requires empathy but acting as in a romance is a level of vulnerability I wouldn’t touch with a ten-foot pole. 😉

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        I was watching their bts on youtube the other night and it really look like he’s into her, and Yang-mi is such a bully. She’s always teasing him in their bts. ER posted a photo on his weibo yesterday? with “Yang-mi is my own FuYao” as his caption. ^^

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          Where can I find that? Seems like I saw something similar that someone tweeted but I didn’t really get it. “Yang-mi is my own FuYao” is so sweet and it seems Yang mi just might be a tad like FuYao in real life. I’ve watched all the bts I can find and there are plenty! I love watching the director telling and showing them exactly what to do.

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          Oh, and Ethan would look at Yang mi with those puppy-dog looks like he really would follow her anywhere!

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    WuJi & FuYao scenes this week were all ❤️❤️❤️

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      Yes, I did see it and it was so sweet!
      I was thinking how perfect both of them were for Fuyao and Wuji. If it had been any other actors I might have thought all the love and adoration lines between them were a little too cheesy, but they really brought it.

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    To be honest, I had to stop watching at 58 until I got my emotions in check. I’ve been so intensely emotionally involved I had to back away (until I knew the ending, ha!) But I also want to go back to about 55 or 56 and re watch before going on. It will be a binge watch weekend. I posted the ep 21 water fight to a friend and she loved it. She won’t watch anything w/o a happy ending so I had to wait but now she’s watching LoF.
    Who’s the best couple? Seriously??

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      Who’s the best couple? Seriously??

      Ha! I’m looking forward to my weekend binge too.

      It never occurred to me that Fuyao/Wuju’s supremacy was in question until I scanned the “overall thoughts” recaps at A Virtual Voyage. Their pleasure from the show has dimmed but I vehemently disagree. Plus, after enduring every single episode of Mr. Right – 恋爱先生 I know what it looks like when a great show really goes off the rails.

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        I’m gobsmacked at comments from Virtual Voyage. How can their pleasure dim when it just gets more and more intense? Perhaps it is the secondary characters’ stories which I admit I ff thru the first time I watch a drama.

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          I’ve definitely wondered, “Are we watching the same show?” Still, I’ve found some of their commentary to be fun and they’ve added to my sense of watching this show within a larger community.

          It’s been a treat fangirling with other Beanies this round; watching Chinese dramas is usually a solitary experience for me. I’m either months or years behind a show or I just can’t make the time for a hot show that everyone’s talking about! 😄

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            I’m too sensitive to read any negative comments about Fuyao! It would be too disheartening.
            I only just discovered Chinese dramas. For the longest time I pooh-poohed them. But then I discovered Nirvana in Fire 2 (not the original) and I’m on my 5th time watching it, as it’s the kind of show that totally appeals to me. I love the subtlety. It’s going to be the same way Fuyao. Lost Love in Times I’ve only seen 3 times.

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            I teach piano and my Asian students’ moms (and a dad) are surprised when I tell them I watch kdramas and Chinese dramas! They don’t dare come in as we’ll get sidetracked and talk dramas. “Are you watching this…?” Have you seen that? I had one mom translate a lyric from the song from Wolf that I’d kept seeing “Ni shue” “You are” and I actually heard those words in LoF at the lotus pond when they were kids.
            But it’s the greatest treat as you said to fangirl in more depth with you. Glad you set up this thread on your fanwall.

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    Can you recommend another safe site in the U.S. to watch LoF for my friend? She doesn’t have Viki or DF and I can’t share my account, correct?

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      I don’t think anything’s stopping you from sharing your Viki or DF login with your U.S.-based friend. Unlike Kocowa which has a 4-device limit for accounts.

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        Have you seen the actual ending or just heard that it’s happy? One comment said they thought it might be reincarnation. I can’t judge yet but I already told my friend it was a happy ending and she’ll be really mad if it’s some kind of time jump, reincarnation, etc. To her, that’s cheating! I can hardly wait to see the whole last episode.
        Question: although the ending will tell us – did you notice the evil spirit is in a hall called “Illusion Palace”? I’m wondering if her trying to kill Wuji is an illusion.

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    I’m trying so hard to catch up. I came to LoF well after it started, but I think I’m up to episode 39 now. If only there were more hours in the day.
    BTW, I love your GIFs.

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      There are a few episodes you might ff thru parts if you’re like me. I can’t stand waiting for the Fuyao/Wuji scenes so I ff thru the minor characters first, then go back later to watch those parts. But there are also some episodes that I simply could not stop watching they were so intense.

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        But I can’t ff. I have a mental block about doing that. That’s like skipping ahead in a book. Just can’t do it.
        Are all the episodes really 45 minutes? Sometimes they pass so quickly that I really doubt it.

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          I have to ff if I’m getting bored. Otherwise I get stuck at the same spot. With some dramas that are completed I’ll skip around and even watch the end, kind of like reading a synopsis and helps me get the general drift of what’s going on. But then I read magazines backwards, read a book ending first, etc.
          I admire people like you who are more linear in your thinking!
          I subtract the approx 5 minutes of beginning and ending credits/music. That leaves about 40 minutes actual time. Plus if you’re like me and really get into it the time goes by quickly, yeah?

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            I’ll have all sorts of questions if I skip ahead and will end up having to go back anyway so I might as well just plow straight on through. Sometimes I’ll just do other things while watching boring bits to distract myself.

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    Question for you Chinese fantasy fans: This is the second fantasy I’ve seen where he gets a lock of her hair so that he can find her if something happens. I’ve tried to look up fantasy tropes but can’t find the significance of the hair thing anywhere. Do any of you know?

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      Interesting. It’s new to me.

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        In Lost Love in Times he has a lock her hair at the end when she ascends and that’s how he finds her when she falls back to earth in her timeline.
        Just finished 64 of Fuyao and she gives Ingot a lock of her hair so that Wuji can find her later if she disappears.
        This has to be some kind of trope or an element that means something in Asian fantasy. I don’t remember seeing this kind of thing in Western fantasy. Wonder if it’s also done in anime.

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          Oh, okay. I remember the hair at the end of LLIT. I thought it was their wedding braid. I actually didn’t even ask how he found her—these Chinese dramas are such a marathon, by the end my elbow is permanently pressed on the “I believe” button. ;D

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            I’ve just been doing some research but couldn’t find anything on “locks of hair”, but I did learn that Chinese fantasy genre is called “Xianxia” not Wuxia.
            In Fuyao she gives the lock of her hair to Ingot to give to him so he can find her, but in LLIT you might be correct, it was their wedding braid but had nothing to do with it helping find her, I guess.
            If I see this same thing in another Chinese fantasy then I’ll know it must have some meaning. Like maybe in fantasy the hair is still linked with the person and acts like a GPS (ha!)
            I did learn how important hair is in Asian philosophy and Taoism (which I know nothing about, so more research to follow). I’m such a beginner knowing next to nothing about Asian culture and literature and needing to learn new things!

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            By the way, have you seen Wu Xin Monster Killer? I guess that genre has a name too though I don’t know any other series that would be similar. “Xiandai Xiuzhen” Immortal hero in modern-ish times. I really liked it but it has a rather sad ending. I’m waiting for the 2nd season to appear somewhere watchable.

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      How did the hamster find Wuji in the desert? I know the Crown Prince mentioned it to Fuyao but I’ve forgotten the details.

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        Sometimes I think I should take notes as I’m watching. I remember him telling her she sent Ingot to find him and that’s what saved his life but I don’t remember if he said anything about how Ingot found him. It must be magical.

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Do any of you watch YouTube channel Wong Fu Productions? I love them! Their Asian Bachelorette makes me so happy.

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Legend of Fuyao | Week 6: Eps. 41-48 Checking in with Beanies (and anyone else!) still keeping up with the show: @linda-palapala, @giocare, @ally-le, @ultramafic, @jozie, @trina, @asianromance, @kimbapnoona, @trinpie, @giegie0384

It was good week for villians to strut and couples to regroup. What were your favorite scenes, costumes and villians last week? Is Fuyao really trying to pass as male—with eyeliner? Are Wuji and Fuyao still just holding hands?

My comments and GIFs in the comments.

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    @tsutsuloo’s Legend of Fuyao | Week 6: Eps. 41-48 observations:

    1. How do Wu Ji (Hot Crown Prince) and Zong Yue (Hot Doctor) keep their whites so white? Wu Ji managed to get scruffed up during his exile in the desert but our golden boy might be wearing robes sheathed with dirt-repelling nanoparticles.

    2. Have you noticed how the appearance of fancy snacks signal impending death or some sort of extreme humiliation?

    3. I loved everything about the the competition fight scene in Ep. 47. The fancy snacks! The tense pre-formance chatter amongst the royalty. The way the finalists rushed to squeeze through the closing doors! Fuyao’s gorgous green ensemble! The choreography! And Wu Ji absolutely slaying it with his flirty eyebrows!


    4. Actor Vengo Gao reminds me of the young Charlton Heston—handsome with the emotional range of a block of wood. My God, look at his face here as Zhan Beiye is registering the news of his mother’s house arrest. Whhaaaaat? I. Am. Upset. !

    5. Even with Vengo Gao’s bulging eyeballs, it was a great week for reaction shots. The bad boys of Tiansha have wonderfully expressive faces. I love Zhang Yicong as King Zhan Nancheng. His like a Chinese Bond villian, compulsively polishing his tchokes while sneering, oggling, pouting, and raging.

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      Your Vengo GIF made me fall off my couch, rolled on the floor laughing, went to the kitchen to get a glass of water, glanced at it again and started choking!!!!!!
      Honestly, at this point I FF all of the Bei Ye and Zhu Zhu’s scene. Probably because of the FFing, it felt really weird that he fell in love so deeply so fast really because she donated her eyesight for his cause.

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      This world has proven to be a lot of fun with Fuyao as an undercover warrior, but it also makes me realize that the all-time biggest suspension of disbelief in dramas will always be a woman pretending to be a man and (almost) no one can identify her as a woman. I mean, c’mon!

      I am surprised how much it makes me happy to have pervy Wuji back, and I love Fuyao and Wuji nighttime rendezvous, but just hugs? I mean c’mon!

      I know this is a story that happened in the olden times in ancient China, but this is also a fantasy that based on nothing that resembles reality. So please, make some babies or just enjoy the fun part……I am sure the Hot Doc can provide you with some sort of tonic or Wuji has some magic armor in his sleeve!

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        I’ve lost track of all the times she coldcocks someone to steal their uniform or armor—and it always fits her! 😀

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      The Vengo character reminds me of the spoof in The Brit production of Lancelot in the Holy Grail. Absolutely hilarious!

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      Wait, didn’t General Fierce diethus week??? I think that’s the only scene I watched.

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        Heh—even being cremated isn’t a guarantee that a character is dead. 😉

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    Thanks – was hoping to hear from you! I’m stuck at 42. Well not stuck so much as just ff thru episodes as a preview and then going back and watching the full episodes. This weekend I’m binging from 41 or 42 thru to present. I did have an absolute favorite scene (but can’t remember exactly where) when he comes back alive and they’re in the desert at night with absolutely gorgeous music, CGI gorgeous, the two birds at night with the fireworks. –I’m getting chills, must go find and re watch that scene!
    I’m sure they doing more than holding hands. Aren’t they married, after all? I don’t remember where, but there is a bed behind them in one scene.

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      Guess that was episode 38. Let me be honest – I ff to their scenes together and watch enough that I’m filled with their story, then I can go back and enjoy the rest of the story. Isn’t that what everyone does??
      I have renamed the drama “The Journey of Fuyao and Wuji”. That’s so much more fitting.

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    Gawd, I love this show!

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      I love it too, @linda-palapala. (I think we also share affection for Love Lost in Time.)

      Keep an eye out for my favorite couple scene early in Ep. 46. It’s a lovely, quiet moment where Wuji puts it all out there for Fuyao. This isn’t a “you’re my woman!” declaration. It’s a “everything—my past, present and future belong to you” moment and the actors are amazing. Their faces are really flushed with emotion and my Grinchy heart went *sproing!*

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        Oh, yes, I remember that scene now. It was beautiful and I’ve watched it several times. Love Lost in Time…yes we do share affection for that show. I’ll probably watch it again next month after Fuyao, though I’m pretty sure I’ll end up watching Fuyao again first.

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        Which brings be to a sticking point,: why so many confessions of love? There was one episode where they confessed twice. In the same place. Within 24 hours of each other. I’m all for telling your significant other you love them often, but this is becoming repetitive. *my grinchy heart is apparently still a rock*

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          I can never hear it enough…with all they’re going thru I’m guessing they need the comforting words.

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    I barely remember the events from 40-48 because I used the ff button a lot (except for WuJi & FuYao scenes…and pretty Doctor Zong Yue). I’ve seen until ep 52 and if 40-48 dragged, the show picked up in ep 49 onwards. I don’t want to spoil it for you but this week’s episode are really good.

    But I’m inlove with the show. No tragic ending hopefully.
    Thanks for mentioning.

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      Online watching has spoiled me. I imagine there are many like me wishing for a FF button (and close captions) at the movie theater!

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        One of the best things about this drama is the fact they’re already together as a team and a loving couple, working to restore the five kingdoms. How often does that happen in dramaland? (Hope I haven’t jinxed it since there’s still 10 more episodes!)
        Every time we see them start to get intimate someone comes in and interrupts. Either we’re not seeing “behind the scenes” or they’re getting really frustrated!

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      It only dragged because you needed more Wuji/FuYao scenes! As I said, to get them out of my system I have to watch all their scenes first, then when I’m satisfied I can go back and watch the other’s stories. Her true story is happening now and I’m guessing next will be his finding out the truth about the Firmament.

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    Nice youtube vid on the meaning of Fuyao and the poem it’s mentioned by Li Bao. “Riding the wind, ascending”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaf8m2OZ72I

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    Up to ep 58 and I’m so worried about the ending that I’m obsessing. I can’t watch any more until I know the ending. I’ll be devastated if it doesn’t have a “happy” ending for them. Youtube has previews of ep 65 and 66 and it doesn’t look good. But, there’s a glimmer of hope in the preview. I can’t even watch any other dramas because this is all I can think about.

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Are You Human Too?| Ep. 16 (32): One more week. Buckle up, Beanies!

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Great work from my colleagues* at PBS Digital Studios’s Origin of Everything. Why Do We Say Asian American, not Oriental will be of interest to anyone curious about identity labels—not just North American Beanies.

*I work at a local Public Media affiliate.

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    Great video Tsutsuloo! It is good (and in some ways scary) to be reminded that history repeats itself…..we are now experiencing anti-immigrant sentiment similar to the 1880’s.

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      we are now experiencing anti-immigrant sentiment similar to the 1880’s.

      True that. It’s never ending; we just slot in a different group to demonize.

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    It’s because I’m not a rug, right? (I haven’t watched it yet.)

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      ;D Definitely not a rug or a branch of medicine. This series is great and I’m going to share more with my 13-year-old. They’re intelligent and surprisingly deep, given their brisk running time.

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Legend of Fuyao | Week 5, Ep. 33-40 After week 4’s bloody but emotionally satisfying denouement in the Taiyuan Kingdom (ep. 25-32), this week’s episodes has been harder for me to watch. I’m taking a break before finishing ep. 38-40.

I agree with @linda-palapala that Legend of Fuyao is delightfully tongue-in-cheek but—damn!—Fuyao’s fight sequences were unrelenting this week. Fuyao’s hand-to-hand combat against Wuji’s brother, Prince Yi (aka Zhangsun Pingrong), was at once fantastical and brutal. (Think Patricia Arquette’s fight scene in 1993’s True Romance.)

The show meets my wuxia expectations but it shines brightest when Yang Mi and Ethan Juan share the screen. *sigh* Can we get through the political shenanigans of Wuji’s home region and move they on (TOGETHER) to new adventures? His family is just … yuck.

@linda-palapala@giocare@ally-le@ultramafic@jozie@trina@asianromance, @kimbapnoona— What did you guys think this week? Too much? Not enough? Just right?




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    Life has gotten in the way this week so i yet to see 33-40 yet 🙁

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    I’ve been watching this one too, my current favorite. I have to say, Fuyao’s fight scenes are some of the best fight choreography I’ve ever seen.

    Wuji and Fuyao’s chemistry is so electric.

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      Yeah, the fighting is getting tighter as the story progresses! Wirework is to be expected in wuxia but I like it best when used judiciously. 😉

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    Don’t watch 38-40 then! Of course, after they proclaim their love they really really get terribly separated. So angsty. And I’m so with you that they are best together, so WHY, show, WHY separate them! Make them a fighting team! At least they usually get back together pretty quickly.
    And I’ve never seen such chemistry in a drama. Ethan Ruan is doing an outstanding job as Wuji. I’m re watching every second from the beginning (instead of my usual ff and skipping) and wow, did I miss a lot the first time around.

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      I agree with you and @1tea1 regarding our OTP’s chemistry! Having watched (and dropped) Yang Mi in Les Interprètes and Negotiator, it’s a joy to finally watch her paired with such an electric screen partner like Ethan Ruan.

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      I do appreciate that they usually only go one or less than one episode apart before reuniting.

      I like Yang Mi a lot, but Ethan Ruan is pouring his soul into this character. He is so dedicated in every single scene. They are magnetic together.

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    I’m always perplexed how she can be so skillful one minute and then play the damsel in distress the next minute. But I agree, the chemistry between Yang Mi and Ethan Juan is hot, and the angst is so believable. I’m still only watching scenes with them in it this week. I haven’t seen 38-40 yet though!

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      I kinda noticed that myself. He sure has to rescue her a lot. I’m hoping this time she rescues him instead.

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      I’m always perplexed how she can be so skillful one minute and then play the damsel in distress the next minute.

      I hadn’t thought about this until you pointed this out, @ally-le. The poisoning feels like a plot device to make her more vulnerable so that Hot Doctor, Hot Prince, and Hot General can do their bit. 😀

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      It made more sense in the beginning when she was a slave and still learning to fight. I guess she is still rash and inexperienced.

      But, at the same time, I love it because it was a way to get them together in scenes when other forces kept them apart. So I can’t complain too much,

      I feel like by the end of the drama she will be rescuing everyone, so maybe this is okay,

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    I thought episodes 39-40 dragged a lot. The episodes started and ended with both leads in the same situation. But other episodes this week were great. Especially that fight scene. I felt such a sense of justice when she cut off his crown jewels. I don’t mind the politics. I just wish Fuyao was taking more initiative in her life instead of only reacting to her circumstances. I was expecting an epic quest to have that curse removed, but guess not.

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      Yes, but I think it dragged because they weren’t together!

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      I just wish Fuyao was taking more initiative in her life instead of only reacting to her circumstances.

      Well said! I’m going to pay more attention to Fuyao’s becoming increasingly pro-active. At this point, she’s still just surviving (brilliantly) and not yet on a formal quest. (And I’m not exactly sure what Wuji’s quest is, beyond reinforcing his kingdom’s dominance. Being faaated love, it’ll all fit together.)

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    The fighting was badA. Prince got what was coming, and I loved every second.

    I’m only up to 38, but it did seem like they kept having the same arguments over and over. But Ethan Ruan did so well in those scenes, his heart on his sleeve, that I didn’t mind. I also like that he got upset with her for once and they were able to make a sort of breakthrough so she’s not going to be so hot and cold anymore.

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    I haven’t gotten that far yet, but I love the fight scenes in this series, especially when Fuyao’s in them!

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    I love the lyrics to the beginning OST, so here they are: FUYAO
    I start to dance nimbly and gracefully
    For what my beautiful face is frowned?
    Without him I’ll drift with the current.
    Why is the tune of the zither a farewell song?
    Without me, he’ll be lonely in this universe.
    My heart silently waits at the Cliff of Firmament
    The heaven, the earth, the sun and the moon
    are all in my bosom.
    How can I own the top freedom in this world?
    There is no fear from my heart
    Deep Love won’t hide
    True love won’t run short
    Dreams give hope through all the ages.
    Why go through storms and stress to be
    bright and beautiful?
    There is no struggle from my heart
    Swaying along with the wind I can do anything freely.
    I enter my dreams easily and unrestrainedly.
    What a beautiful dance.

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Are You Human Too? | Ep. 11* Shhhhhinnamon is so shupple.
*Ep. 22, if counting by .5 hr episodes

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Are You Human Too? | Ep. 9-10: Whaaaaa? So twisty turny! Plus, David’s macro-expression of “Oh, for ****’s sake!” gives me life!

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    I know!!! This show has so many surprises!!! I’m loving it on so many levels 😀

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    I didn’t know I needed those twists until now. I’m liking David’s character so far! (and I’m kind of appreciating gramps too HAHA) Idk whose side he is rn but I’m hoping that he is on our RoboShin’s side!

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Wanted to share my Fuyao love with Beanies @linda-palapala, @giocare, @ally-le, @ultramafic, @jozie, @trina, @asianromance

Legend of Fuyao has the basics of what I’d expect from wuxia: a passionate romance, gorgeous costumes, gravity-defying fight scenes, and lots of one-sided love. I adore Yang Mi here but I didn’t expect such a saucy performance from Ethan Juan. Watching him drive Qi Zhen crazy with his feigned stupidity is almost as much fun as his cheeky flirting. It’s my perfect weekend binge after a week of adulting.

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    I’m curious to know, who is your favorite character? and what did you think about this week’s episodes?

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    “Saucy” “feigned stupidity” – Brilliant!

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    OMG! I need to watch this now!

    My love for Ethan Ruan goes way back to the days of My Queen and Fated To Love You.

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    Saucy is the only way to describe him! He vacillates between clueless fake prince, intimidating real prince, incorrigible playboy and considerate crush like it’s nothing. He’s my favorite character by far.

    I also love Yang Mi, the brothers, and the young girl who is in love with the Heaven Fiend prince (can’t remember her name) . I think my favorite moment so far was when the PM had his robe throwing fantasy, only to be slapped back to reality by our now King. LOL

    This show is my guilty pleasure for sure.

    Curious to hear your thoughts up to 25! I have thoughts, but don’t want to spoil….

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    This is my first time watching Ethan Ruan and he has such charisma on screen and cheeky charm!

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Don’t let my austere demeanor fool you. I’m giddy about leveling up to Errand Boy!

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The Undateables/Handsome Guy and Jeong-eum | Ep. 23 For me, it\’s a case of loving the actors without loving the show. Some Beanies describe it as show good for “folding laundry.” Which I would do, if I didn’t have to read subtitles.

I generally find the K-drama obsession with childhood connections to be cheesy but I really love it here. Their fated connection (*whispers: fated loooove*) is integral to their story and the slow reveal has kept my attention.

Namgoong Min is the definition of charming (I checked the dictionary). The weirdness that makes him such a good villain translates well to the romance genre. And I applaud the show for giving the OTP pillow talk time—fully dressed, non-sexual pillow talk—to cuddle and connect.

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    I stalled out because I found other current shows more compelling, but I’ll go back and finish is some time (maybe in the winter when I need something with a summer vibe).

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    I was watching this episode and thinking that I love that even though the actual plot/story isn’t that compelling, the characters and the way these actors bring them to life feels very real. I loved how the coach accepted Jug-eum’s choice, because she knew it wasn’t up to her, and I love that she supported her in the way she could. I really like the way the second leads are handling rejection and I have been lowkey shipping them together since they first shared screentime.

    But more than anything, I’m really looking forward to the relationship stepmother plays a role. We’ve seen that he really respects her, and that she loves him too. I think that there’s an interesting dynamic to be explored there, especially as she is also trying her hardest to find her own life again.

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