Beanie level: Rooftop room dweller

How can I petition a series review of NOKDU FLOWER? (and also give us space to discuss the finale?). It’s a shame that the whole drama couldn’t be recapped, because it’s a keeper. A review will do. Please?

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    A series review would be great. I know there aren’t a ton of us, but based on mentions in the Open Threads and wall posts, I think there are several of us who followed it to the end and would love to discuss.

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This OST needs to go on my fanwall. “Saeya, saeya, parangsaeya”

Oh bird, bird, blue bird
Do not sit in the field of mung beans
If the nokdu flowers fall
the jelly merchant will leave in tears.

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    This show just looks too sad for me.
    The premise made me think of The Wind That Shakes the Barley. That was a hard watch for me.

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      I was trying to think of a way to reply to your comment because somehow the drama didn’t seem sad to me.
      Maybe it’s because I watched it knowing vaguely how it ends, historically, so I knew the show wouldn’t have a happy-ever-after for everyone.
      Maybe it’s because the PD used a very subtle touch to portray tragedy. Actually, the drama was more “human” than happy or sad, because it showed life as it was for those people, with their trials, joy and hope in a difficult time. Is there such a thing as a slice-of-life historical drama? Because that’s how this felt. Nothing was overblown in order to wring tears from us.
      I came away from it having learnt a lot more than most sageuks, because this was about everyday Joseon people and the transition into modern Korea.

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Aim: binge ep. 21-24 of NOKDU FLOWER
Reality: take a break after ep. 21 because I can’t see the screen through my tears. Ohmygosh I haven’t cried so much in ages. 😭😭😭
Have I mentioned this drama is a masterpiece?

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    I’m at ep 17 and I agree wholeheartedly. And thank you for not posting overly spoiling pics.

    I wish more writers and directors would learn this style of storytelling. Gut-wrenching while being completely subdued and understated.

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      I wanted to say how much I like this drama without posting spoilers (I hate spoilers myself).
      The storytelling is marvelous, and a lot of credit goes to the PD. It looks completely natural, feelings are not forced from us…. anyway, I’m going to watch ep. 22 now. See you at the finish line!

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        Everything feels insanely natural and matter-of-fact! It actually scares me a bit! If there were more directors this talented they could sell me any lie in history!

        See you there chingu!

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          Gosh, you’re right! I’ve been reading a bit about the Donghak Peasant Rebellion and the drama does downplay their anti-Western agenda, which included not only rejection of the Japanese but also European or “Western” influence. It’s no wonder that Song Ja In keeps her Christianity a secret, because neither the Japanese, Joseon Confucians or Donghak members would take that very kindly.

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            I felt quite a lot of anti-western emotions especially in the beginning when YH’s Japanese education and love for western technology was never showed in a positive light.
            But on the whole I agree that most subjects are touched fleetingly, but burningly, like the scene where the butcher wants names for his family, whereas many shows would definitely want to get a lot of drama out of such a scenes. Milk it, if you know what I mean.

            And tell me, why not many PDs know like this one that men living in the wild need sunburnt face makeup and uncouth broken hands and nails but they don’t need crazy hair to look like peasants? That a 20000+ men army needs at least a thousand extra actors to look convincing? That every single surprise and revelation doesn’t need deafening drumroll or episode ending credits? Ugh! I could go on and on for ever. This is simply beautiful. Perfect.

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    I agree, yesterday I only got partially through episode 22 and had to take a break. This show is really a masterpiece.

    Unfortunately it’s bringing back memories for me when my son was a Marine during his 2 combat tours in Iraq in 2004 and 2005. There wasn’t as much communication and every day I lived in fear that there would be a black car outside my door when I got home from work.
    It was nerve-wracking and painful to say the least – watching the women mourn and worry brought a lot of that pain back. However my son returned home safe and almost sound (ptsd).

    It must have been SO MUCH harder due to the lack of easy communication.

    But back to the show – listening to the Dongkak leaders give those speeches about why they will keep fighting were powerful! I bet the actors are really feeling the words so much more, as it is their history. WOW

    I’ll finish the rest of the episodes this week.
    But just wow all over the place for this drama!

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      I can’t imagine how hard it must be to send a son off to war. I am sorry you had to go through that and glad that he came back to you safely.

      Those speeches were so powerful that they made me cry:
      Joeon Bong Jun: “Forget the cause. Fight for whatever you hold dearest.”
      Baek Yi Kang: “Even if it’s for a short moment, I want to live as a human being and die as a human being.”

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        Thanks – to be honest, I was taken by surprise at my response. One time my son got annoyed with me when I tried to describe how hard it was to be a mom when he was there. But he wasn’t married and didn’t have a child at the time and so didn’t understand. I hope he does now that he has a daughter.

        This show is so powerful! Still, it’s hard watching the story knowing how it ends, at least in history. I haven’t finished it yet.
        The battle scenes – I took off my headphones and just looked at the trees above my heads until they were over – I couldn’t bear to watch or listen to them.
        But I will finish the show.

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    Eps 21 is the hardest to watch. I have to take a 3 days break before I felt okay enough to continue watching.

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    Without a doubt this drama is totally awesome. I forget which episode I’m on at the moment, but I still have a way to go until the end. It hasn’t lost steam since this started and I have a feeling it will continue this way until the end. Truly a very good show.

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Friends, here is the first entry of CAPTION THIS.
I’ll choose iconic scenes from dramas, good and bad. Go wild, as long as you keep it friendly and PG-13.

#1 – BOYS OVER FLOWERS

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Ok, so I have a new plan to reach that loan shark office: CAPTION THIS.
I’ll post pictures/gifs from dramas that we love or hate, and beanies write captions in the comments. Only rules would be to keep it civil and PG-13. What say you?

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NOKDU FLOWER finale this weekend! I’m ready to binge and land in a pool of tears. Bring it on.

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Me: I wonder if I should spam my way to a loan shark office.

Also me: But I hate scrolling through pages of fanwall spam. I won’t do it unless I have a show to spam about.

Me 3: which you don’t

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    And then there’s me who is clinging tightly to her rooftop apartment, but yet keeps posting stupid things.

    Oh well, if I’m gonna be a loan shark I’m gonna be awesome one without a heart of gold.

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      Your “stupid” posts are in no way spam. They are always delightful to read. The rooftop neighbourhood likes having you. I’ve been at this game for a year though. Time to move on!

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    Go for it. Seize the wall and take it.
    Your favorite Pigrabbit moments.
    A list of the love to hate OST songs.
    Best eye smiles.
    Best skinship moments.

    What ever takes your fancy.

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    Spam Arthdal dance scenes. So much bad material there. Except for about a third of the last dance.

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      Psychotic Elf Boy : ways he makes me swoon.

      I dont know if he actually makes anyone swoon, but just for topics sake.

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Omg tell me this is legit and not some fan-made trailer asdfhjkk 😱😱

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A Song For A Loan Shark Gig
*strums a sad guitar*

Monday 8th July marks my anniversary
as an illus-tri-ous Rooftop Room Dweller.
I’d invite you to a party and celebrate if I could.
But you see I’m broke, I can’t pay my rent no more.
Yogurt drinks don’t fill me up.

I wanna get that loan shark slush fund.
Someday, I’ll get that loan shark slush fund… (repeat)

So I flit from rooftop to rooftop,
every day wearing my Errand Boy outfit.
Hiding in other flats among the flower pots
until someone spies me and I run away.

I’ll be here, waiting for that loan shark slush fund.
Someday, I’ll get that loan shark slush fund… (repeat)

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    nice song 🙂 , hwaiting Wishfultoki ^^ ! Only advice I can give is that posting on recaps and articles help much more than the fanwall.
    (it took me a long~ time to be a shark since I only use the fanwall -_- , now I’ll just wait a year or two before the next level x) )

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    A Loan Shark is here
    I’ll give you good rates
    With a kitten in my pocket
    Eating ramen with my mates

    I had a rooftop room
    But now I’ve moved upward
    I can lend you what you need
    For your rent or to fill your cupboard

    I might look a bit rough
    And a bit sarcastic too
    But I have a hard of gold
    And I suck at rhyming.

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    omg this is so great!!!

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    AWWWWW… this screenshot is giving me feelings.
    Makes me want to rewatch Healer again rn. 😭

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I ended up listening to THE BEST HIT OST again thanks to @ndlessjoie. It’s still as a fun as ever.
And that is still the weirdest accidental kiss ever. ROFL

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    Ah ~ the lost potential of the father-son relationship in this show continues to haunt me, to this day. T_T

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      The father-son relationship was weird from the start and maybe the writers thought it was better to spend less time with it. I dunno. Romance was more important for them I guess.
      I’ve honestly forgotten what frustrated me and just remember the fun hijinks in the first episodes. 😀

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        Hehehe It was definitely a good drama though. I really enjoyed it too, and may developed a small crush on Yoon Shi Yoon a tinnnnnyyy bit while watching it. 😀

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      Same.

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      It made perfect sense to me. Why would he be a good father given that he skipped that whole portion of his life? Yes, I feel bad for the son, but he had a great father figure anyway.

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        *scratches head* *memories starting to return*
        I agree on the father-son thing. I think the weirdest thing for me was his relationship with the girl/mom. I don’t even remember if he liked her or not in the past, still less how they had a child, and that they hardly spoke in the present timeline.
        I might have to rewatch it because the details are hazy. I thought it was good. My only complaint was that it chose to focus on romance in the later episodes, which is a common complaint I have towards kdramas.

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        Rather than be a good father, I wanted to see more of a relationship between them? More like an older brother tbh

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      father wooing son’s love interest and best friend.. that is creepier.. that too in front of the woman he dated and who is mother of his child..
      all this while knowing and being aware of all this 😛

      Chat tae hyun has a weird brain

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      That is why I didnt keep up with it. I read the recaps and it sounded so disappointing. Just through the recaps the father/son relationship seemed like the best thing. Though I remember either Javabeans or Girlfriday loving the lead actor’s character and how he played him.

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    If I go very long without it, I miss it.

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    One of my favorite OSTs!

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Throwback Thursday OST: GU FAMILY BOOK.
I forget what the rest of the drama was about, but the parents’s story stayed with me for a long time. Beware spoilers in the clip.
#ChoiJinHyuk
#ManeOfGlory

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    Same. Once in a while I always go back and watch the first couple episodes. I was so heartbroken by their story I couldn’t continue with the show.

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I finally updated my watchlist: https://mydramalist.com/dramalist/wishfultoki.

It’s kind of sobering to read that I’ve spent 136 days of my life watching dramas.

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I was watching Arthdal 10 and thought that Saya reminded me of Loki.
And Tagon’s hair reminded me of Th’Oreal.
Which led me to watch this clip for the 100th time.

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    I always thought Tagon’s hair reminds me of Thor and he uses thoreal products. Haha.

    Saya = Loki? I might need to catch up just to see Saya’s hair in action. 🤣

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      Actually Saya’s personality reminds me of Loki. He has beautiful hair too.

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    @wishfultoki—I didn’t know I needed this in my life. “IFLT” isn’t a thing, I know but it’s how I feel. I effing love this.

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    the dubbing is so perfect tbh~
    the cliffhanger ending and list of ppl is just… lmao

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    taehala is a better villain than tagon

    young tagon was atleast an enigma..

    i don’t know if it is a script problem or this actor.. prior to this watched him in suits and he was disappointing there too (but then Gabriel was just awesome!!! so maybe too much pressure to match up)…

    but he is really bad in presenting tagon

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    What a wonderful find! Thank you!

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I actually enjoyed episode 9 (!)
I only skipped the needless violence inflicted on slaves. We get it show, just STAHP with that.
#ArthdalChronicles9
#WhereistheHorse

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    No horse again? Magical horse is waiting for his carrot boy to gain some smarts.

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      He’s in the preview for episode 10 I think… will magic horse save Eunseom? Or will he seek out Saya and the handsome vampires Neanthals to join forces? Will magic horse find Moobaek and teach him about politics?

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        I think Moobaek has a thing for him but who does magic horse really like? I see Moobaek, Saya and Carrot Boy as a potential team.

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          I dig that team. The big question is: will Tanya join them? I feel Saya’s confiding in her a lot, almost like a friend, and she’s not telling him anything, cuz obviously she doesn’t trust him.

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            I wouldn’t either. He seems a little too twisted. He’s going to turn out to be the military strategist though and he knows the weaknesses of every Arthdal ruler or wanna be ruler.

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            @ndlessjoie when did you move to the rooftop neighbourhood?? Welcome!

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            I have no idea. I need to run outside and check out the view!

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Throwback Thursday OST, sung by Amogae (REBEL THIEF WHO STOLE THE PEOPLE)

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I was looking for something on my fanwall, which I didn\’t find in the end. But I found the post where the original Island Party was organised.It took place on the weekend before A Poem A Day\’s ep. 11-12, when nobody knew for sure if their ship would sail. Fun times. http://www.dramabeans.com/members/wishfultoki/activity/461156/

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You guys, I attended a beginner’s Korean class (as an observer), and I understood everything the teacher said. #feelingproud #ilearnedKoreanwatchingdramas

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    I swear I could probably watch Goblin without subtitles and understand over half of what they’re saying.

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    I understand a lot of Korean when it’s being spoken, but once all the words are written down, then I’m lost. I think I associate connotations with the sounds of the words.

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    That’s awesome!

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    That’s awesome! 🥳. I can watch a drama raw and understand bits and pieces to know whats going on now, but I go totally blank when it comes to hangul. Ahaha

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    Cool!

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    and that should be level on dramabeans cause its an achievement of its own…
    congrats…i can watch dramas without subs and can understand 50-60% of what’s said only when some really long and complex sentence comes i struggle…

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Let’s take a minute and appreciate the many (suffering) faces of Yoon Shi Yoon.
Fear, anger, despair, shock at the stupidity of war. A tinge of madness.
#NokduFlower

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    I am hesitant to give a verdict on a show which hasn’t finished airing yet,
    (and which I have stopped watching a few episodes back because I miscalculated and thought it would end by the time I get to the last episode. I am now waiting for it to end to continue watching) but this has been seriously very good writing, very good acting, and very good directing thus far. A true gem.

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    The range he’s shown in this show is impressive. The whole cast has done a great job thus far. If this holds up until the end, it will rank up there with the best sageuks I’ve seen.

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    Yoon Shi Yoon! His dramas has been a hit and miss previously for me (the best hit, dear judge). I’ll might watch Nokdu when I have the right mood for it. I always wanted him to take on a darker role.

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    He’s quite good in Nokdu ….. actually, everyone is very good in this.

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    I haven’t seen a lot of his work but I think his performance as Baek Yi Hyun is the best he did so far.

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FATHER IS STRANGE Ep. 22

Kim Yuju: “Future sisters in law, don’t outshine me at the wedding. I’m the bride, so don’t look pretty.”
The three sisters:

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Toki’s Mid-Year Bean Count Report
(January-June 2019)

Dramas completed: 4
– Best Chicken
– My Strange Hero
– The Light In Your Eyes
– Special Labor Inspector Jo
Currently watching: 3
– The Secret Life Of My Secretary
– Nokdu Flower
– Joseon Survival
Dramas dropped: 5
– The Crowned Clown (Ep. 13)
– Top Star Yoo Baek (Ep. 8)
– Reach of Sincerity (Ep. 8)
– Her Private Life (Ep. 8)
– Arthdal Chronicles (Ep. 5)
Considering: 1
– My Fellow Citizens

Conclusions:
– May-June was better than Jan-April
– I am not in a Slump anymore.
– I can’t seem to finish TvN dramas.

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    I love this! I’ll be borrowing your idea for a similar post! 🙂

    I say you should go for My Fellow Citizens. I watched the opening episodes – they were really funny, and it has general beanie approval. Kim Min Jung is a star.

    I see you never did get round to oppa’s Jung Il Woo’s drama HAHA.

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      Sure, this is actually inspired from your Notes to Self, just condensed into quarters. 😄

      Haechi is on my to-watch list for later. I’m not interested in any upcoming dramas so I might need Jung Il Woo Oppa to save me from falling into the Slump of Doom again.

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        More like great minds think alike. 😁

        Ooh he’s pretty cool there. Be ready.

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    I can’t seem to finish TvN dramas too including super well received TvN dramas like Mr Sunshine and My Ahjusshi 😅.

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      Is it us or is it the dramas? 😜

      Seriously, I think it’s me. I’ve become more ruthless in dropping dramas this year… my past self would have watched to the end of TCC or fast-forwarded through Reach of Sincerity just to collect a bean.

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        I think its me too..it’s not dramas fault I don’t like it when many others do 😌.

        My drama live-watching rule: if a drama manages to sustain my interest I will continue. If I zone out while watching, I’ll let it go.

        Hence..my 2019 completed drama list is short 😆.

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    Definitely watch My Fellow Citizens. It’s great 🙂

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    Ooh this is such a good idea… now trying
    to work out what i have watched this year 🙂

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    OMG I also finished Best Chicken.
    Why?

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