LOOKOUT finale reaction, in sum:

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    First I am in shock. Then I look around for a piano to drop on psycho creep Si-wan. While I’m at it I consider dropping a piano on the whole Korean police force and yes, even on our Lookout team for being so darn slow at the critical point. But then I remember words like “Let’s live and get them…” and become a sobbing mess again.
    Rinse and repeat.

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      Out of all the villains I’ve seen, I think I loathed SiWan the most. He was so despicable and it was all just ‘for fun’/because he knew he would get away with it.

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        I know! And I don’t even know if he survived and was punished in the end grrrr.

        I have so many questions about that finale. Just one for now: Was Soo-ji still a fugitive at the end?

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      I’m more annoyed with the writer for the missteps at the end.

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        I think I simply like this show too much. I don’t find the ending that bad.

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          When they were all in the partly built building the decisions made were out of character for the team. There was about an hour of things going sideways that didn’t fit with the characters we’d come to know. I still think it was a great show to watch, but I felt like the writing let me down at the end.

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            Yes as far as I have seen most viewers have problems with that building scene… I think it helped that I watched later after having witnessed the outrage of the beanies, so I had braced myself for a much much worse ending.

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            That scene was frustrating. I do wonder if the writer made some changes in the end because the FL had revealed to the production team that she was pregnant so she couldn’t/shouldn’t do the type of stunts she had been doing earlier. Just speculating, but choices were made that just didn’t feel right to the characters we had gotten to know.

            Anyway, I still love Lookout, and Do Han is one of my favorite anti-heroes. And remember, we didn’t see a body….

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            @ndlessjoie @midnight @egads @ally-le I do think bingeing the show made it easier to gloss over production issues or questionable changes in character. Detective Lee became suddenly very incompetent, though I get that she was distraught with worry over her stupid daughter. But surely our characters were smarter than the kid? I really thought they’d outwit him (pretend to shoot, locate his hideout, tackle him, that kind of thing). What is consistent is that Do Han felt intense regret and was ready to sacrifice himself for Soo-Ji, so I found it poetic (?) that he went in the same way as Yoo-na. Of course it was also poetic justice for that little creep. I’m just mad that Do-Han seemed to get the worst of it.

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            I also binged it… and the random character changes at the end really frustrated me haha.
            But obviously, most of you already know what I think.
            Here Toki: http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/165426/
            There’s not really much point in really expanding on what I think of this show and the ending till you’ve read that πŸ˜›

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            Thank you for sharing your essay @sicarius. I guess our experience was similar: we both knew he’d die but were worried how. I honestly thought Shi-wan would grab the gun and shoot them while Do-Han and the detective were distracted with Suji being shot. It could have happened. As it is I’m not that frustrated with the ending, though I am sad. Your essay has added the extra line or scene I needed in my mind, of Do-Han asking for forgiveness and being forgiven. Sounds cheesy but it would have given full closure. He’s so tragic because he thought he could never ask for forgiveness. 😭

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            It doesn’t sound cheesy at all.
            I mean, I cried three times writing that essay and I don’t cry over fictional characters very often; Do Han ruined me.
            It was exactly what I needed too, him being forgiven. I didn’t see it on screen, but I like to imagine it happened anyway, because I think all the pieces were there.

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          @wishfultoki Your analysis was perfectly on point. I put everything down to everybody being driven crazy with worry lest the same crime happens again…

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          @sicarius @wishfultoki Maybe this is a mother’s point of view, but to me, that kind of forgiveness won’t come before maybe ten years at the very very least.
          To my way of feeling, if he had asked for forgiveness and she had accepted him I would have gotten furious, and if she had told him maybe in ten years?? It would have destroyed me 😭 My poor poor Do Han.
          So him being absolutely sure that therecould be no forgiveness and sacrificing himself, and her just starting to look at him with less anger and a shadow of worry was the best closure for me…
          And this is a completely personal point of view. I can fully understand how somebody else would need another kind of closure.

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            @midnight I’m listening to the Raina OST as I type this, and it makes me cry again. 😭

            Yes, it was the best possible closure; a mother would not be able to forgive that easily. Part of me thinks that he was saying β€œI’m sorry” with every action he took to protect Suji since their talk in the confessional, and that sitting next to him during his final moments is the closest she could come to forgive him. His last thoughts were of her saying that she’d never forgive him, then thanking him for letting her see her mother. That was enough for him, he couldn’t ask for more.

            This drama broke me. I haven’t cried for a character so much in ages. I think Ernest Bot was the last character that really broke my heart. 😭😭

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            @wishfultoki That OST 😭

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            @wishfultoki I also think all his actions in the show were him trying to atone for his past actions.

            However, the whole point of forgiveness and grace is that nobody deserves it.
            You don’t give it because they’ve earnt it; you give it because it’s the right thing to do.
            I didn’t actually ever want him to ASK for it; I wanted her to give it to him because that’s what love* and respect looks like, because she WANTED to forgive him because it would’ve released BOTH of them from this tragic, soul crushing path they were both on. That’s what forgiveness does. It’s a release.
            (*not romantic love)
            And it’s more impactful if they don’t think they can ever get it, receive it or deserve it.
            Of course we go “I could never forgive him! Not for a long long time!”- and yeah that is, to us, the most realistic option, how COULD someone forgive someone like him- But that’s EXACTLY why Su Ji forgiving him IN SPITE of everything would’ve been the most powerful ending, for me.
            And if he had known that, not just the chance of it, if he had known she forgave him, then he would’ve forgiven himself, because him dying without forgiving himself is just… so hopeless to me.

            In a way, it does work, not quite full redemption, or full forgiveness, I mean failed redemption arcs can be just as compelling (see: Gollum), I just think I would’ve liked to see the drama take the extra, and yes very bold step that most people wouldn’t see sense in in a million years, and forgive him properly.
            But grace doesn’t make sense. It’s not supposed to. That’s why it works.

            (cc: @ally-le)

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            Very eloquent thoughts arguing for both sides @midnight and @sicarius. If I may, I think the drama left it slightly open to interpretation. On the one hand Suji never officially forgave him, but we know she understood him, and she reached out to hold his hand right at the end, telling him to be at peace. At a natural level his death was hopeless, but if we think that grace works on a supernatural level, then Do-Han asked it through his sacrifice, not with words but with action. He did also confess to the priest and to the whole world. In that way I think it is fitting that the last scene was in a church. His death as a martyr seemed in vain, but it wasn’t (yes, the biblical parallels are strong in my mind).

            Of course the send-off was rushed. I would have liked to see Suji cry over him (and cry properly myself), just because she saw another tragic human who did his best to atone for his sins.

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