Beanie level: Noble idiot

OMG Mr. Thornton, guys.

That is all.

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    Injeong, injeong πŸ˜‰ haha

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    Welcome to the club.

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      @kudoran @snarkyjellyfish I kid you not. At one point I found myself with the biggest grin on my face. I had to control myself before my family started judging me. 😄

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        The way he looks at her….love it.

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          Yesssss! Literally from second one of meeting her he’s smitten and I don’t think he even tried hiding it.

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        The first time I watched it I literally rewatched it right away because I love him so much.

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          I got the free month trial with Netflix just to watch N&S, and you sure bet I’m going to be playing it on repeat until Sept 16. Now I have to analyze everything with precision.

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            My cousin has never seen it and we’re gonna watch it together sometime soon, and it can’t come soon enough. After seeing your posts I may just watch it myself first and then rewatch it again with her whenever we get a chance.

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I’ve been rewatching all the BBC Jane Austen movies/series and gosh how I enjoy period shows. Any suggestions for similar period movies/series? With the same Austen feel?

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    North and South. If you have not yet met Mr. Thornton, you are in for a treat.

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      Oooh yes, thanks for reminding me I have yet to watch N&S. 😏 And officially meet this Mr. Thornton (I’ve seen him on beanie fan wall posts before lol)

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        *fangirling* Take me along when you meet him!! 😉

        In addition, I recommend Wives & Daughters, Cranford, and Return to Cranford (Tom Hiddleston, β€˜nuff said). All based on novels by Elizabeth Gaskell. πŸ€“

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          Lol! My expectations for Mr. Thornton are so high by this point, I can’t wait to watch!
          Tom Hiddleston, you say? 😉

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    North and South for sure if you haven’t see it.

    Wives and Daughters and Cranford are also great and based off of Elizabeth Gaskell novels and I’ve watched both several times.

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    I would say the film Belle which aired in 2013. It’s lovely to see a black woman play a lead role in a period piece. We need more diversity!

    I don’t know if you have seen the remake of Poldark starring adrian turner. Just be warned there is a hefty love triangle.

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    2005 Pride and Prejudice movie, Downton Abbey

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      P&P 😍 I’ve also watched Downton Abbey up until Matthew died. It made me so upset I stopped watching. Pity because I loved the Dowager.

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    Far From the Madding Crowd. As far as I know there are two versions, but both are wonderful. Under the Greenwood Tree. Basically anything based on a Thomas Hardy book, but some can be sad like Tess of the D’Urbevilles. It’s wonderful, but hard to watch at times.

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Moment at 18’s premiere was pretty good. I like Joon Woo because although he’s reserved he still stands his ground (or at least tries) when he needs to….and he’s not a jerk, which is always a plus!

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11:30pm Ramblings….

I think one of the reasons why I loved TSLOMS so much was because the interactions between MI and GH/the boss-secretary relationship, reminded me of another favorite OTP of mine.

Any Latino beanies here who watched the original Colombian Yo Soy Betty la Fea or the Mexican version? MI/GH’s interactions reminded me of the OTP, more so from the Mexican version (Fernando & Lety). The plot is completely different but both OTPs are so comfortable with each other even before falling in love. And they’re funny and cute and crazy lol. I know one the recent trends in dramaland right now are boss/secretaries but are they like GH/MI? Did they start off with a sorta established relationship? Of course, MI was very needy and I admit very insensitive when he fired GH but they definitely had a level of comfortablenes between them already. A lot of beanies even brought up the fact that they had too much skinship for a boss and his secretary. Are these other secretary dramas like TSLOMS? Or are they more like enemies? I’m asking because this is a trope I like but only how TSLOMS portrayed it.

Also, (since I’m on the topic already) I noticed that they did another remake of La Fea Mas Bella yet again. How many remakes can you keep making lol! Granted, I believe some of the remakes have deviated a lot from the original, such as the American Ugly Betty version. I never watched that one but iirc, it’s galaxies different from the original.

The Columbian version is great and I liked it more in terms of its side characters, and the the story was more compact. The Mexican version has some of the most annoying characters ever. The 300 episode show could probably be reduced to half of that if they took out all the unnecessary characters and plot lines. However, the Mexican version is my favorite in terms of the OTP. ❀ JAIME CAMIL ❀

I watched the Mexican version yearsss ago and the Columbian one ages ago. But this new remake got me roominating on a kdrama version. Honestly, they’re the only Hispanic telenovelas I’ve ever cared to watch and I’d love to see a Korean remake. It’s just such great angst galore.

For anyone who doesn’t know (and cares to read my blabbering 😁), the story revolves around a very educated young woman who is considered ‘ugly’ by people. Because of her appearance no one hires her so she ends up taking a secretary position at a company, definitely not up to par with her education. She becomes the CEO’s right hand. When the company is near bankruptcy Mr. CEO creates a dummy company under her name to seize his company instead of the banks. Long story short, his doofus friend and him start to get paranoid thinking she may end up taking the company from him (legally she can). So they decide he’s going to make her fall in love with him to assure her loyalty. In true Mr. Crawford mode, he falls ‘victim’ of his own game when he falls in love with her. He’s a jerk, what he did was disgusting but man does he pay for it to a point where you feel bad for him. And it’s a journey of growth of course for our female lead.

It’s great angst (imo), first of all because the while love scheme was completely unnecessary. She was already secretly in love with him thus her loyalty was infinite. Then she feigns ignorance after she discovers the truth and literally tortures him by getting back at him with his own game. It’s soooooo good. As you can see by my Austen reference above, I always found it amusing reading Sense & Sensibility and seeing Crawford legit fall in love with Fanny. I think that’s why I like these shows/plot so much. I laugh at the game backfiring.

Noble idiocy angst is annoying but this angst is so deliciously good. Koreans love their angst and this is some excellent and founded angst. I’d give up a whole lot to see this happen on Korean TV. Of course, adjusted to their culture and maybe that would get rid of all the unnecessary characters in the Mexican version. The big con of the Mexican version were the side characters and their plots. Gosh, how I detested some of them! Hello FF button. A nice 20 episode kdrama could dispose of their shenanigans though. It’d be the best of both worlds for me lol. Very unlikely for it to happen but hey, I can dream right? 😉

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    I love when we started talking about Telenovela 😄😄
    I’m not Latino but I also watched and love the original colombian version. If Betty La Fea was not soooo goood, it would not have been remade in many countries. C-drama also remade Betty with Wang Kai as one of the star.
    It’s a shame I hardly remember most of the plot. I remember one of Betty’s friend (or frenemies?) with big chest who love shopping too much that she ended with debt.
    Betty was really big here that my friend dressed and acted like Fernando for his student senate campaign (to be fair he did look like Fernando with glasses and slick hair) and he actually won because of it 😄

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      Wang Kai?! I have to watch it!

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      Lol at your friend dressing up like Fernando…and cool for winning! 😆 It’s definitely one of the ‘it’ stories for Latin America.

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        I just think I need to tell you about this. I just watched my friend on TV, well actually he’s been on TV a lot for the last three years. He’s an uni professor and politician now. How is it possible? I have no idea, in developing countries there’s no clear lines between politics and academics. He’s on TV to give his insight about economics/public policy issues.
        To think that it’s all started by cosplaying a character in telenovela, isn’t TV amazing?? 😄😄

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          OMG lol that IS amazing. Imagine him being asked one day, what event triggered the beginning of his career….so you see I was running for school Senate and dressed up as a popular telenovela character…. 😄 that is super cool!

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    I never watched the original, only the German remake (yep, it’s called Verliebt in Berlin) when I was a kid. I don’t remember much of the story, but loved Lisa’s (the secretary) development and growing confidence! Her style was similar to Gal Hee’s, if I remember well.

    That story must be really famous to be adapted in several countries πŸ™‚

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      A German version? Wow I didn’t know about that one. I just googled it and lol she does have the same style! Curly hair & glasses.

      Yeah, it was huge. Idk about the Columbian version but I remember the Mexican one almost reached %50 ratings. It’s always interesting watching adaptations of famous stories like this.

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        Can you recommend other telenovelas like this one? I only see stories with gangsters when I switch channels these days. I’ve already seen the ones with Thalia, MuΓ±eca brava, Rubi, Marina, Amarte asΓ­, La Bella Ceci, Luna, El Diablo, Da Cor do Pecado and a few more I can’t remember.

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          Unfortunately, I don’t know of any. I have vague memories of watching part of another one but I can’t even remember the name. πŸ™

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I haven’t watched the final episode of TSLOMS yet, only clips…but THANK YOU SHOW for not making GH have a make over or stick to dressing like VP. Yes, she’ll doll herself up a little extra for her dates. But she’s still the petite curly haired cutie with glasses that MI fell in love with. I LOVE THIS SHOW!

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Two minutes in Episode 13 of TSLOMS and this lady just threw herself in front of the TOD to save a fish. Like I can’t even feel bad for you when your priorities are a fish lol. *shrugs* On with fun~~~

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    I mean, it’s meant to demonstrate how difficult it is for the secretaries at that company. It’s also not totally out of the realm of possibility in real life. Speaking from experience, working in South Korea is grueling, especially if you’re not fortunate enough to have a somewhat decent boss. It’s why the suicide rate among office workers is so high in Korea.

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      Yeah, unfortunately, that’s the work environment for many people 😔 and I know what Show is pushing for. But at the same time I don’t think Show takes itself that seriously either? Their use of the TOD also seems to be a lighthearted jab at one of the industry’s biggest tropes. Which is perfectly fine with me! I L-O-V-E this drama with its fun silliness!

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I don’t have much to say that hasn’t been said already by other beanies, regarding the betrayal that MI is going to feel when he finds out GH has been lying to him. But I do have a lot to say about MI’s feelings.

I know a lot of viewers want MI to find out the truth and instead of confronting GH about it right away, teasing her and playing along. That’d be a lot of fun because gosh he knows how to tease her so well!

But then I started thinking that it’d be more meaningful, in my opinion, if he admits to liking GH before he finds out the truth. Yes, I know that might up the angst levels more but hey we’re getting a high dose anyway. Might as well. So I want him to flat out admit the girl he’s truly smitten by is GH. Yes, I know they’re the same person…but at the same time they’re not! Veronica-Gal Hee is not GH 100%. I need MI to acknowledge he likes GH in all her adorable glory, with her red cardigan, glasses, curly red hair, solidarity, and spunky personality!

And then I want him at some point to make it clear to her that there are plenty of reasons why someone would like her, and I’m not even referring to just romantically, but as a person, as a friend. I want GH to embrace who she is and realize she doesn’t need to be a ‘Veronica Park’ in order to be someone. I have high hopes that Show will highlight this (don’t disappoint me, Show) because of the Korean title being I Loved You From the Start….ya’ know, as Gal Hee.

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    I’m hoping the same thing. I thought yesterday that he was going to choose GH but it looks like he’s going to choose VP based on the preview. I want him to love GH for who she is and not who she is when she’s pretending to be someone else.

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      Watch him be about to say GH and right at that second he gets a call from VP/GH!

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    I think the show will go in that direction, well, I’m hoping they do.

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    That would be great. He said something along those lines in the last ep. He said: “I wanted to be with you”, and Gal Hee replied that he just wanted her company when he was feeling down or missing Veronica Park. But he said: “No, I just wanted to be with you”. *cue moss ball floating*
    I have two possible scenarios:
    1) Gal Hee realises that Min Ik likes her for who she really is and confesses. He of course still feel betrayed but eventually comes back to her after a time skip. Angst level 6.
    2) Min Ik finds out the truth from someone else. Gal Hee finds out too late that he liked her for who she was and curses her low self-esteem. He of course feels ultra betrayed and decides to marry the real VP. The USB gets lost at sea. Angst level 10.

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      Lol @ option two. Hey, maybe the writers want to teach us lies only lead to disaster, pain, and everything bad. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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    I’m also hoping the show will go there. Especially after the whole platinum arwana which is actually a golden arwana and the moss balls symbolism in eps 19-20. I hope it’s to signify Min-ik’s true love for Gal-hee instead of the fake Veronica.

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      Yes the symbolism was very well done! And then GH asked something along the lines if his dad treasured it knowing it was really a golden arwana. Nicely done Show.

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I always love the concepts for Park Sodam’s pictorials. 😍

My girl looking amazing at the Cannes festival. (i’m still fangirling over the fact she’s in a film with Lee Sun Kyun btw)

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The Secret Life of My Secretary is delightfully fun! I love the leads’ dynamics.

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    They are SO adorable, I really really like the show so far.

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This 2PM performance is so cute. I don’t know if it’s their choreography or the little smiles (Junho! πŸ₯°) but there’s no other word I can think of to describe it.

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Me: I wish I had the time other beanies have to watch the subbed Confession episodes as soon as they\’re out.

Also me: Spends one hour watching Junho/2PM videos on YouTube.

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I really want Park So Dam to comeback with a great drama but it looks like she\’s sticking to movies and plays only. 🙁

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    if cindrella and four knights and brain thing with JH is anything to go by… i hope she stays in the movies only

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      But..but…I loved Beautiful Mind. I know she got a lot of criticism for it but it’s one of my favorite dramas. Cinderella, I admit was very bland to say the least.

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Hey beanies, is this only happening to me? Whenever I go to DB\’s homepage I don\’t see the new articles/recaps. I\’ve only been seeing the ones from March 19. For a second I thought DB hadn\’t posted in a few days but then when I was reading an old recap I looked down and saw there were recently posted recaps.😱

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Two things that made me smile today:

1. Bom\’s song ❀
2. THIS!! I love this lol.

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I rooted for you Junhyung. Even as I drew away from kpop, I kept him as a my number one bias. Praised his talent. Listened to his songs…

I\’m just so disappointed and sad. *hugs beanies*

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    I had a feeling it wasn’t going to end well for him being so close to the perpetrator. I wonder if it was a unilateral decision (for him to leave Highlight) or one that all the members agreed to. I have a very pragmatic view of the world and largely unemotional as well. In my mind, he was a bystander. There are real criminals, real corruption, and real victims of this. He’s just a pawn in the whole game, and not even that. What he did I’m sure thousands or hundreds of thousands have done and will continue to do. Of course, it’s still shameful and disgusting, but is it really unforgivable? Just putting that question out there before we crucify every kpop artist on the periphery of this scandal. I’m sure it won’t end well for Roy Kim either. Just waiting for that shoe to drop.

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      Yeah, I guess it’s not unforgivable but for me it’ll be hard to separate this from his music, even if he was a bystander. I’m disappointed but I’ll get over it soon enough and move on though. Can’t bring myself to stan him again but I appreciate that he spoke up and wish he sincerely accepts whatever punishment necessary, whether it’s legally and/or morally.

      And you know…I’ve never bought the ‘star persona’ of celebrities 100% anyway. I’m sure this mindset saved me additional disappointment.

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        Me neither. Well, except if Park Bo Gum or Gong Yoo ever fall from grace, there no hope for humanity.

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      Thanks Ally! This is exactly how I feel.

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        actually, its not that he spoke up out of guilt, his name has been doing the rounds, evidence is there framing him of being a knowledgeable party.. there really was no escape.. this step is good i think from legal perspective and plead guilty, seek leniency..

        people are crucified for much less.. and he isn’t even RICH Seungri to save himself..

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      Ally may I gently say I disagree with you? Because I’m not a fan, it’s so much easier for me to disagree, and for that – I apologize.

      He didn’t have to be the hero exposing JJY, but the fact that he knew and saw videos and commented inappropriately and stayed friends with JJY says a lot about his character. These are not ordinary videos right? They’re of sexual assault and rape.

      You’re right – he may be forgiven by fans and the public eventually. But what he has done isn’t a small thing. At best he’s an enabler – that’s the kindest word I can find.

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        Totally agree with you. Watching and commenting on this videos/illicit acts is enabling sexual violence. He doesn’t deserve a pat on the back for doing the bare minimum.

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        True, I agree he certainly has a character problem, and I agree that they aren’t β€œordinary” videos likely either. I have a feeling what he watched was also back in 2015 of the sex tape the public already knew about which was just filmed without the consent of the woman, not necessarily rape. It’s just a conjecture. But is any sex tape ordinary? What are people really watching when they watch these? I’m sure there is a lot of coercion going on regardless. He should be ashamed and I sincerely hope he loses sleep and money over this, he pays some type of penance, and does something to make up for his indiscretions, hopefully for the victims and their plight. This is much bigger than these kpop stars though. The are just the tip of the iceberg.

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      This is from the past case right? Seriously I’m so sad, mad and ashame. But he confess anything that he know, even when he stay away from JJY since 2016 or since JJY sent him a hidden cam video, he still wrong about thinking that JJY and hidden cam are not a big problem.
      I just hope that he keep stay with AU Entertainment, he is one of the CEO and accompany Highlight in the future.

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        He’s already left the company and group according to the media.

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    Me too. Very sad.

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NOOO I THINK I JUST SPOILED MYSELF FOR THE CROWNED CLOWN. no no no *erase erase brain erase you read nothing* bye fanwall until I catch up

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Beanies, you\’re tempting me to watch The Last Empress!! This anti-hero Emperor flooding the wall is intriguing me. I have to finish Just Dance though…and I wanted to try The Crowned Clown too.

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I\’m tempted to start Joseon X Files for KJH, but beanies…is it supernatural creepy or more sci-fi? Or both? Is it gory? I\’m a tad of a scaredy cat. I can do creepy to a minimal level.

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I….*ehem*..have a new crush.

And then I realized his upcoming drama was with Park Shi Hoo.☹😫

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Guys I absolutely loved Miss Korea. It\’s a relatively simple story but there\’s just a special charm to it. It breaks boundaries and tropes I\’ve always complained about. Imma rave….

How AH-MAZING was Oh Ji Young?! I sighed and mumbled when HJ made the deal to break up with her and then she found out…and I was all *eyeroll* here comes the trope. Cue the 2 episode dose of separation and angst. But nope! 1. she confronted him about it asap and didn\’t pretend she didn\’t know and just give him the cold-shoulder and 2. she straight out told him she could care less what he had bargained, she\’d continue liking him because it\’s HER choice. THANK YOU!! MISS KOREA WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING THAT I HADN\’T WATCHED YOU? Like, sure, if you want to be the \’noble idiot\’ and give up so be it. But Ji Young was sure of her feelings and what she wanted. Heck, she knew his feelings but he didn\’t want to own up to them till the e d.

They\’re her feelings and he can\’t control them by simply flicking a switch up or down. He has no right to decide what\’s \’best\’ for her. Her entire dialogue in that discussion is phenomenal for me. She highlights how their relationship was given a second chance and how she was determined, just as much as she was with winning Miss Korea, to see it through to the \’second and final round.\’ And it was superbly cute how she said \”hey! why do you think I\’d stop liking you? You think I\’m the most beautiful woman in the world and you walk on eggshells around me!\” How cute is that?

And he\’s SO smitten by her. He was a huge jerk at the beginning and I was incredibly disappointed in him when we learned why they broke up and how he dealt with the situation then and the years following. But I, again, appreciated how Ji Young would snap back at him and jab at his ego. You deserved that man.

Of course, they progressed past all of that but even in the latter part of the drama, I appreciated how sincere and straightforward they were with each other. They weren\’t the young lovebirds from high school anymore. They shifted into what I thought was a more mature and founded relationship. One where they found happiness in seeing the other doing what they loved or being successful even if they themselves weren\’t in the situation they\’d like. Unlike the past when he looked down on her for her \’dreams,\’ or lack thereof. I feel like Miss Korea did a good job of portraying a more, say, realistic relationship. It\’s not all cotton candy and kisses. Relationships can be complicated but at the same time simple. They\’re both and JY and HJ did so so so well playing it out.Β 

And overall Miss Korea had this tinge of nostalgia and positivism at the same time? I don\’t know if it was nostalgic simply because of the era but there was something so down to earth about it. Maybe it was just refreshing not seeing all the technology we\’ve grown so used to being surrounded by or the simplicity of life back then. And then every success, whether for Vivi or Ji Young made me incredibly happy. I know they\’re fictional characters but seeing their struggles and then watching them fight back even when they were literally being pushed to the end…it got to me. I honestly don\’t understand why. Underdog stories are nice, sometimes cheesy, but none has had the impact Miss Korea did. I cried with them, even the simplest moments, and then I laughed with them.

I loved this drama. I always say that even my favorite kdramas have flaws so I acknowledge the ones in Miss Korea. Yet it definitely cemented itself as one of my top dramas. Ji Young is one of my favorite female leads ever and I wish we had more like her. Stronger by the end of the story\’s trajectory and it wasn\’t because of HJ. He did encourage her and I hold him dear for the sweet things he would say to her. But Ji Young was the owner of her trajectory and growth. Miss Korea is definitely a gem I\’ll hold dear in my kdrama fangirl heart. ❀

PS. The secondary otp was adorable and pleasantly unexpected.

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    I love Miss Korea so so SO much, and the second couple is one of the absolute best ever!

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    *adds to my watch list* this sounds so good 🙂

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      It really is! I could rave on and on about it. Definitely worth a shot.

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    Wow! So surprised to see Miss Korea getting some love here. This drama started and ended the exact same time My Love from the Stars did and you know what buzz that drama generated. Miss Korea got completely lost and buried. It was so unfortunate because as understated this drama is, it does have a great unconventional story, a winning OTP, and a cast of veteran actors who really elevated this heartwarming story.

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      @sadie Interestingly enough, I tend to watch the ‘buried’ dramas but I missed out on this one. And I didn’t even watch MLFTS! I’m glad I made my way around to it though.

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        So how did you stumble upon Miss Korea 5 years after its premiere?

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          @sadie Ooh! Just saw this! After My Ajusshi I kind of went into a LSK spree.😁 I watched Pasta but it was meh and finally got around to Miss Korea. Honestly, I do remember hearing good things about it back when it aired but I never thought it’d be something I’d enjoy. And here I am now, in love with this drama.

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    Good show. I especially liked the scene at the gas station in the final ep.

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    Miss Korea is the reason why Lee Yeon Hee, despite the constant bad acting rap, will forever be in my good graces. She was just so good here (and oh so beautiful) and delivered the right amount of toughness and vulnerability into her portrayal of Oh Ji Young.

    I also loved the bickering fairy godmothers who want nothing but the best for their beauty queens. (Also enjoyed the somewhat mother-daughter relationship between Ji Young and Madam Ma.) Actually, this drama probably has the best supporting cast that I’ve watched, from Ji Young’s family to the Vivi cosmetics team.

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      I was nervous about Lee Yeon Hee prior to the airing precisely because of all the criticism on her acting. She surprised everyone. And her chemistry with LSK really worked, too. Haven’t followed any of her projects since. Did she continue to improve in her roles after Miss Korea?

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        I would have to say that Miss Korea remains to be LYH’s best work. I recently watched her in Reunited Worlds and thought her performance uneven, as she appeared quite stiff in several scenes. She didn’t really have good chemistry with the two male actors that she was paired with. She was also unfortunately overshadowed by Jung Chaeyeon, who played her younger counterpart. However, I think she was great in the comedic scenes and when emoting. (I haven’t seen The Package yet so I can’t really say if she performed better in this drama.)

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