Oh My Lady: Episode 16 (Final)
by javabeans
Ah, the end is here! I suspect this episode made most if not all fans very happy, as it tied up the plot in a light-hearted but satisfactory way that was in keeping with the tone of the drama. It’s too bad that things didn’t get really compelling until about Episode 10 (then stepped it up with Episode 12 on — incidentally when Yura took a big step backward — coincidence? I think not) — which is frankly rather late for me to be connecting with a drama.
It’s to the actors’ credit that their amusing and sweet interactions were able to carry the plot until the story finally managed to tap into that emotional place with Min-woo’s growth as a father and as a person. I’m just glad that this one ended on a high note, because so many finale episodes feel like a letdown — they’re either too rushed or dragged out as an extended epilogue.
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FINAL EPISODE RECAP
Min-woo asks Kae-hwa to be Ye-eun’s mother, explaining that he had purposely waited to ask her until after the musical premiered. Nobody could be as good a mother to Ye-eun as she is, “And I need you. Let’s marry.”
(Omo! Usually when episodes end on cliffhangers, the next episode drops the tension back down, but in this case they just upped the ante.)
Kae-hwa is stunned, but Min-woo adds, “I’m not saying this out of the blue. I’ve thought this over seriously for a long while. Think it over, then give me your answer. I can wait as long as you need.”
Min-woo is invited along for a celebratory drink with The Show Co. staff, and Jae-hee remarks that it feels like Min-woo’s a part of their office family now, seeing as he has come to all their gatherings. Min-woo smiles and, while looking at Kae-hwa, says pointedly, “I think so too. It feels like a family.”
He’s extra solicitous to her, offering little things like napkins and such, which Shi-joon finds amusing while Kae-hwa is exasperated. When the others urge her to drink more, Min-woo swoops in to play the “black knight,” i.e, drink for her.
Min-woo’s behavior is so noteworthy that Jae-hee asks teasingly if their fake scandal is actually real. Kae-hwa blurts, “No!” just as Min-woo answers, “Yes.” (Such a mixed reaction makes the others think there’s more to this relationship than they’re letting on, and they exchange knowing looks.) Kae-hwa rises to leave early because of the kids, and Min-woo hurriedly excuses himself too, accompanying her out.
Kae-hwa is impatient with his exaggerated attentiveness, and says that she’ll give her answer now: “I’m not going to marry again.” He asks her to think about it some more, but she replies that a lot of thought has already gone into making this decision (not to remarry).
A bit indignant, he says it’s cowardly to swear off marriage because her first one failed. Maybe she just met the wrong guy the first time — it’s always possible she’ll meet a good person the second time around.
Kae-hwa replies that she doesn’t want to entertain such an expectation, and besides, she has Min-ji. He counters that a daughter isn’t a husband — and once Min-ji grows up and gets married, will she be fine being alone? That makes her pause briefly, but she reasserts her stance.
Min-woo: “Are you that afraid?”
Kae-hwa: “Yes, I am! Do you know what marriage is?”
Min-woo: “‘What do you know when you have no life experience?’ Is that what you’re telling me?”
Kae-hwa: “You haven’t been hurt so you don’t know. You don’t know what that pain is of promising to love each other for the rest of your life and having that shattered. So please don’t talk to me about marriage again. I’m sorry to say it like this.”
She walks off, leaving him pondering her words.
Kae-hwa’s words make him look deeper into the cause of her resistance. Thus the next morning, he intercepts Byung-hak just as the latter is leaving his house (humming “Sorry Sorry” in a meta moment, lol).
Min-woo gets to the point, asking aggressively what the heck Byung-hak did to Kae-hwa to make her swear off marriage forever. Byung-hak returns that this is hardly his concern, but Min-woo says it matters “because it’s a hindrance to her marrying me.”
Byunk-hak’s reaction is pure confusion: “Why?” Why would he want a woman like Kae-hwa when he’s a star? Min-woo presses on with his question, which elicits a roundabout answer about how she’s a difficult and tiring woman to live with. Min-woo watches with narrowed eyes, reading between the lines — he cheated, huh?
Defensively, Byung-hak turns it around on Kae-hwa, saying she doesn’t know how to make herself pretty; it felt like he was living with a housekeeper. In fact, he never bought even her flowers — not because he forgot or anything, but simply because he never felt inspired to buy them for her. You know, since looks are the only reason for loving a woman and all. (I’m not even offended by this comment, because Byung-hak is such a silly idiot that the sentiment has no sting coming from him.)
Min-woo asks if he ever apologized for hurting her. Byung-hak laughs, saying it’s embarrassing to do that. Min-woo tells him firmly, “Apologize to her. Ask her officially for her forgiveness.” Byung-hak finds this an odd demand coming from Min-woo, who replies, “I’m asking as the man who loves her.”
Now that Min-woo has made up his mind to woo Kae-hwa, he gets busy trying to win her over. For instance, he waits outside her apartment to give the girls a ride to school, and reacts in concern to hear Kae-hwa hasn’t eaten breakfast. After dropping off the girls, he takes her to a fancy buffet, where he even serves her.
Kae-hwa worries over the pricy food, trying to convince him to watch his spending because he must have lost a lot of money in the cancelled endorsement deals. Min-woo answers matter-of-factly that they probably add up to about 3 billion won ($2.5 million), but is unfazed. He’s got money in the bank and is confident he can get more work; he’ll consider this a luxurious hiatus from work.
Unimpressed, Kae-hwa urges him to adopt a frugal attitude and says she’s better off than he is, since at least she has a regular salary.
At work, a huge arrangement of red roses is delivered, addressed to Kae-hwa from Min-woo. While the other employees all smile at her knowingly, Kae-hwa tries to explain it away in innocent terms: “Can’t this be a thank-you?” They don’t buy it for a second.
Min-woo sends her a text, which is totally over-the-top and ridiculous (“More beautiful than a flower… Kae-hwa”). Embarrassed and uncomfortable, Kae-hwa says she’ll clear the flowers out of the office and takes them to the stairwell, thinking Min-woo is being shameless. But they do bring a smile to her face, as it’s been ages since she’s received flowers from anyone (which is why Min-woo made the gesture in the first place, in reaction to Byung-hak’s remark).
Next, Min-woo takes a cake to Bok-nim in thanks for treating Ye-eun, then asks for a favor, as she is a friend to Kae-hwa. His statement that “I’m intending to marry Yoon Kae-hwa” so shocks her that Bok-nim drops her coffee and stares at him incredulously.
Bok-nim rushes to ask Kae-hwa about it, wanting to know when the wedding is. She dismisses Kae-hwa’s grumbling that he’s just a kid — 28 is plenty grown-up, and the seven-year age difference is nothing. How can she let a guy like him slip through her fingers?
Kae-hwa grumbles that Min-woo’s proposal asked her to be Ye-eun’s mother, not his wife. Bok-nim sees through Kae-hwa’s complaining and smiles: “You really do like Min-woo.” That’s why she’s disappointed over the wording of his proposal, right? Bok-nim waves aside her resistance, saying that if they like each other, what’s the big deal? In her eyes, Min-woo is serious about her.
Min-woo takes the family out to a nice restaurant. Kae-hwa is self-conscious about coming to a place like this where they’ll be watched, but Min-ji enjoys eating out for once, and Min-woo tells her that it doesn’t matter to him. He pats Ye-eun on the head, saying, “I’m going to raise her proudly, since she’s my daughter.” Which is probably the most effective thing he could have said to impress her, and she allows herself to look at him with moony eyes (but only when he’s not looking back at her).
When Kae-hwa takes Ye-eun to the bathroom, Min-woo tries to make conversation with Min-ji. He sees this as a chance to suss out her thoughts and asks if she’d like having a sister like Ye-eun. Min-ji is pretty sharp and asks point-blank, “Are you going to marry my mother?” Her bluntness takes him by surprise, but he confides that he wants to. Still, he has to first hear out Min-ji’s opinion and wait for her mother’s answer.
She asks, “If you end up marrying my mother and then a prettier lady comes along, are you going to divorce my mom?” Min-woo gapes incredulously, but Min-ji points out that he works with beautiful actresses all the time: “If you betray my mother, it’ll be so sad for her.”
He tells her solemnly, “That’ll never happen. I’ll promise that to you.” They pinky-swear on it.
The musical continues its run and after another of Min-woo’s performances, he calls Kae-hwa, who is working late — or at least, she lies that she is. He offers to pick her up from the office, but for whatever reasons (fear, insecurity, nerves), Kae-hwa rejects the offer.
Reporter Han overhears Min-woo muttering to himself after the call, and says knowingly that he must be stuck in an unrequited love. Min-woo is wary, but Reporter Han has some insights about the situation, and his comments pique Min-woo’s curiosity. Wanting to hear more thoughts on his situation, Min-woo goes along with the reporter’s suggestion to grab a drink.
Kae-hwa works late, keeping herself busy to avoid going home right away. Finding her still in the office, Shi-joon offers her a ride home, and they pause for a break to talk. Tentatively, Kae-hwa says she hopes that he and his wife can give things another try, as it seems they still care for each other. Although Shi-joon doesn’t respond, he’s not offended by her statement and in fact seems to consider her words.
He turns the topic to Min-woo, asking how things are between them. Kae-hwa can’t feign ignorance since Shi-joon knows too much, but first she asks how much he knows. He answers, “One person is sending flowers, but the other person doesn’t seem ready to receive them.”
She confirms that Min-woo seems to be serious about a relationship but she’s not sure; she doesn’t feel confident that she can be seen “as a woman” to anybody. Shi-joon tells her she can — enough that he felt something for her for a short while. This stuns her, as he had never given any hint of his interest, but Shi-joon assures her that there is no cause for alarm. He has dealt with his feelings, and things won’t get awkward between them.
Liquor loosens Min-woo’s reserve (and his tongue) enough that he starts to talk freely about his woes, wondering how Kae-hwa can reject his proposal. Grabbing his laptop, the reporter starts to take notes, asking questions about why she rejected him and how long he’s had feelings for her. And I love Min-woo’s answer:
Min-woo: “Since we went looking for Ye-eun. No — since she had to go to the sauna because of me. No — since she fought with Mr. Jung [Yoon-seok]. Or was it from the beginning?”
Reporter Han says he must like her quite a lot, and Min-woo answers, “Yes, an awful lot. She’s different from the women I dated in the past. She’s beautiful. That’s why I think, ‘This is my woman.'” With that, he falls asleep, his head coming to rest on the tabletop.
Huh — well, this is a new side to Min-woo, and the reporter finds him pretty pure-hearted after all. It’s nothing like the partying image he’d had earlier. He starts typing a story about Min-woo’s “heartfelt love story” and uses words like “rebirth as a real actor.”
Han’s article spawns a wave of press, which now portrays Min-woo in a much more down-to-earth, humanistic light. They even declare that he has now washed off the disgrace of his former image as a lousy actor.
Yoon-seok is dissatisfied — I guess this good press does him no good, since he has lost his hold on Min-woo — but everyone else’s opinion of Min-woo makes a drastic upswing. He presents himself modestly in interviews, and even producer Eom is impressed with him. In fact, Eom gives himself credit for having recognized Min-woo’s talents early on, but Byung-hak scoffs since he didn’t do anything about them. Eom counters that he’ll get Min-woo for his next production.
Eom isn’t the only one wanting to cast Min-woo, and Shi-joon conveys an offer to Min-woo from a Japanese producer colleague, who has sent a proposal for Min-woo to take a role in a Japanese drama. Min-woo is pleased with the news, but as soon as he sees that he’d have to live in Japan for a year, he declines. Shi-joon thinks it’s a great opportunity, but Min-woo answers that he has somebody to watch over here.
And that’s not all: Jae-hee hands Kae-hwa some documents to give to Min-woo, which are papers for a new advertising contract offer worth 1 billion won (nearly $1 million). Apparently advertisers love his new image as a dedicated young single father.
Kae-hwa takes the documents to Min-woo’s photo shoot, where he takes a break from posing for a makeup touchup. The makeup artist tells him that his “scandal partner” (Kae-hwa) is really below his level, and offers to introduce him to a younger model friend. She describes the girl as one of those innocent-looking beauties, to which Min-woo answers, “I like sexy women.”
Naturally this is hardly thrilling for Kae-hwa to hear, even though Min-woo is actually making that quip as a way to reject the date. (Rather than saying no outright, saying that he prefers sexy women is a way of declining her friend, who is the opposite.)
Feeling dispirited, Kae-hwa decides not to approach and starts to leave. She runs into Yura, who congratulates her on her relationship and assures her that she has decided to move on.
Kae-hwa hands the envelope to Yura and asks for her to give it to Min-woo, making up the excuse that she’s busy and has to leave. Yura does, and when Min-woo hears the reason, he hurries out and tries to call Kae-hwa. Alas she isn’t answering the phone, so he goes to the theater, where he is told she is still back at the office.
Shi-joon finds her on the roof ignoring Min-woo’s phone call, and offers her a beer. In her melancholy mood, Kae-hwa offers to tell Shi-joon a “really funny story” and confides that Min-woo proposed to her. Even funnier is the fact that her heart thrilled to hear it. It was exciting to be seen as a woman again — but today, that feeling was shattered.
I’d assumed she was hurt by the makeup stylist’s dismissive comments about her, but I’m actually relieved that those words weren’t the cause of her mood. In actuality, it was the sight of him in action, looking like a star, that made her feel like they were completely unsuited for each other: “He seemed like someone from another land.”
Shi-joon points out that Min-woo was a star from the start — it’s not like she didn’t know. Kae-hwa answers that at the beginning, he had nothing to do with her so that wasn’t an issue. But as they got to know each other, she saw him struggling and felt sorry for him, and nagged him when he said silly things — and those things felt comfortable and manageable. Now that he’s doing better… it’s like he’s back to being a lofty star and the chasm is growing between them.
Shi-joon tells her that Min-woo likes her very much — enough to give up a drama opportunity for her. “Min-woo has changed this much — shouldn’t you recognize his feelings?”
Min-woo arrives at the office to find it empty, then recalls the roof. He arrives outside just in time to see Kae-hwa wiping away some tears. So much about this situation upsets him, and he strides up to her, grabs her wrist (urg!), and takes her downstairs.
He feels hurt that she has been ignoring his calls and avoiding him, particularly when she knew he was waiting for her — and now she’s here crying in front of Shi-joon — and raises his voice to a yell. Kae-hwa tells him levelly that she has already given him her reply, but he ignored it. No matter how she thinks about it, they don’t suit.
He argues that if he cared about those things — age, status — he would never have liked her from the start. She returns that this is just proof that he’s young, and they should quit while they’re ahead. And he should go to Japan.
That gets his attention: “Is that why?” He explains that he didn’t tell her about the Japan offer because he never intended to go. She takes issue with his high-handedness in dragging her away, saying that she’s ashamed of him when he does that, and gets angry and starts fights out of misunderstandings.
Min-woo asks, “So are you saying you can’t marry me? Are you saying I won’t do because I’m immature and young?” Kae-hwa answers yes. She can’t marry someone who reacts in such unpredictable ways — it makes her feel uneasy. She storms off, leaving him to shout her name in frustration.
You know, I’m actually relieved that they had this fight. They’ve never fought for real, and this addresses issues that they’ve been skirting thus far. It’s also nice to see some real conflict — genuine emotional clashing and hurt feelings — rather than the glib, fluffy sort of conflict that has characterized most of this show.
That night, Byung-hak calls Kae-hwa, who finds him drunk and in a thoughtful mood. To her surprise, he tells her, “I’m sorry.” He acknowledges that he never apologized properly, so he’s doing it now. She did nothing wrong — he’s the bad guy — and they divorced because he wronged her. But he felt too embarrassed to apologize, so he couldn’t do it: “But after listening to Sung Min-woo, I felt I was really wrong, and that I had to apologize. So I came here.”
That surprises her — he met Min-woo? Byung-hak gives Min-woo some credit for the way he had insisted he apologize, admitting that the kid was pretty impressive with the way he said, “As the man who loves Yoon Kae-hwa, please apologize.”
He says it one more time: “Kae-hwa, I’m sorry. I was wrong. I pushed you aside and hurt your feelings — forgive me for everything. Forget that all, and make a new start. And if he upsets you, come and tell me right away, and I’ll give him a scolding.”
(Aww. An unexpectedly touching moment from Byung-hak. As with the last time he defended Kae-hwa, this gives us a glimpse into why they were married in the first place while also showing us why they didn’t work. It’s rare to see ex-spouses in a drama ending on amicable terms, and it’s a nice change.)
Min-woo comes home feeling frustrated, and looks over his drama proposal documents. This gives him an idea, and he starts typing away. And when we see what he’s drafting — gahhh, Min-woo is so cute. I about died reading the title of his document: “Proposal On Living For Yoon Kae-hwa.”
In the morning, he comes to her apartment and gives her the envelope. He looks at her with puppy dog eyes and tells her to give her response after reading it.
Kae-hwa reads Min-woo’s proposal, which is formatted like a business document. In keeping with the theme of the drama proposal packet, he has drawn up Kae-hwa’s resumé, only it’s more like a life resumé than a professional one, outlining her traits and skills such as “she has a loud voice,” “makes killer ddukbokki and kimbap,” and “she likes Kim Myung-min better than Sung Min-woo, but I want to forgive her anyway.” Also of note: she has become a mother to Ye-eun, “and now is the woman in my heart.”
Under the “future plans” column, he has scheduled marriage in a month, a vacation cruise to celebrate their one-year anniversary, and so forth. Byung-hak’s apology had started to melt her resolve, and now she has to smile a teeny bit at Min-woo’s document.
Jung-ah has been offered a job in Daejeon, which is located in central Korea and about a two-hour drive from Seoul. She asks Shi-joon for his approval, suggesting that they need some space between them. As she leaves, she tells him that she realizes she hasn’t been the best wife to him either (I presume she means before the adultery, since otherwise that statement would be met with a resounding DUH).
But the door isn’t closed on them forever — with Shi-joon now opening up more to Jung-ah and realizing his part in driving his wife away, it looks like they’re leaving room for a reconciliation later, after they’ve both healed. Shi-joon even says he’ll go down to visit her on the weekend.
Min-woo performs another show, after which he checks his phone and tries to contain his disappointment that Kae-hwa hasn’t called. To his (happy) surprise, Kae-hwa finds him sitting in the empty theater, here with a much more conciliatory attitude than the last time they saw each other.
As we know, important conversations must always relocate to prettier environs (can you imagine that car ride over to the waterside? Most awkward silence ever).
Kae-hwa apologizes for her harsh words, telling Min-woo that she didn’t mean it when she pushed him away. She asks for his understanding and also thanks him for thinking of her life and her future (i.e., in his proposal) in such a serious way.
Min-woo has been looking pensive and tense throughout her speech, like he’s bracing himself, sensing that she’s ready to deliver her final decision. So it takes a moment for her next words to really sink in, as she tells him:”So I’m thinking of being courageous now. Thanks to you, I think I can do that now.”
She adds that she’d always thought she would just focus on being a solid support for Min-ji’s benefit, “But if things get hard, it’s okay if lean on someone now.” Min-woo smiles and steps forward to hug her gently, thanking her for her answer. Kae-hwa thanks him back for letting her be courageous again.
Min-woo then thanks her for watching over him and Ye-eun all this while. He promises that from now on, he’ll protect her.
And then they get the swirly-camera kiss — which is a nice way to bookend the drama, considering that this is very similar to how we started. Only, now it actually means something.
The end!
COMMENTS
I picked up Oh My Lady because (1) when it started I had the time, as none of the current Wednesday-Thursday shows had premiered yet and I had no other recap commitments, (2) I had just finished its timeslot predecessor Wish Upon a Star, which was a happy surprise, and therefore anticipated a similar tone for this one, and (3) I wanted to keep up the watching and recapping momentum. There’s also (4) the matter of loving Chae Rim (and wanting her to pick a more enjoyable project than her last, Good Job, Good Job) and (5) the fact that I had pegged Choi Siwon as an idol-star-turned-actor to watch out for after Story of Hyang Dan back in ’07. (See? There IS some thought that goes into these decisions, however random the choices may ultimately seem!)
About halfway through the drama, however, I found my interest flagging, but not enough to drop the show. Even the less interesting episodes were easy to watch, and it wasn’t a challenging show in either theme or plot, so keeping up wasn’t too much of a hardship. I did, however, start thinking that if the actual plot development got any SLOWER, I would seriously consider dropping it.
Ultimately I’m glad I stuck with the show, and the last four episodes in particular gave me a sense of satisfaction about the drama as a whole. It turned into a different drama than the one it originally seemed — which pointed at the hijinks of a star falling for his ajumma maid/manager — and focused much more on Min-woo’s development as a father than as a romantic partner. I don’t think the romance came out of nowhere, but it wasn’t a priority, and that was actually refreshing.
I won’t call Choi Siwon a brilliant actor — he’s pretty decent, but he’s still got a long way to go if he’s going to keep pursuing an acting career, and I think he should — so rather than pure acting skills, it’s his personal charm that carries the character. I mean, just look at that smile, right?
It doesn’t hurt that he’s perfectly cast — image isn’t everything, but it’s a pretty significant part of how we approach a character. And when you cast a star to play a star, you’ve always got that benefit of the audience’s meta awareness of the actor’s real-life fame. (Also see: Choi Ji-woo in A Star’s Lover, Rain in Full House, Jang Geun-seok in You’re Beautiful, Kim Ah-joong in Accidental Couple.)
It was a leetle disappointing to have so little screentime for the two girls in the last episode, but we’ve seen enough of the Cute in previous episodes that I was content to let this finale be Min-woo and Kae-hwa’s exclusively. (Well, there were a few Shi-joon and Jung-ah moments, but I choose to skip right over them in my mind. Yawn. I’m satisfied, story-wise, with where they ended, but don’t need to dwell any longer on them.)
And then there’s Chae Rim. To be honest, I don’t think this is the best vehicle for her, even though the drama really benefits from having her in it. Therefore I’m glad for the drama’s sake, but she’s an actress whose talents weren’t fully used here — particularly since her character was less developed than Min-woo’s, and hardly changed at all. She made the most of it, tapping into a vulnerable side of Kae-hwa that gave the character a hint of depth. But I hope to see her tackling something more challenging in the future, and something out of the ajumma mold, as she’s done two in a row.
All in all, Oh My Lady was a sweet, cute series that could be a fun way to spend a breezy weekend with some unchallenging but personable characters, and that will leave you smiling at the end.
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201 Sobia
June 9, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Yaaaaaaaaay! 200 comments achieved! Congrats, OML peeps!!!! I am so happy we made it. I hope you are all having as much fun as I am, and will keep hanging out here for awhile longer...Seems like we still have a lot to say about OML!
@Ace: The song is sorta funky and rock-tastic. I like the lyrics better than the song itself. I am thinking that Minwoo could strip the song down and make it a nice, sweet ballad, something acoustic, performed in front of the fireplace, wearing a fetching sweater, looking all handsome...
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202 Ace
June 9, 2010 at 10:39 PM
@ Sobia - still haven't found a site where I could listen to that song. Speaking of music, I never thought I'd like electropop - Sorry, Sorry, Bonamana, or Boom Boom. But there's something about those songs that appeals to me. Not to mention the choreography of the music videos. For 10-13 members, it's impressive how they were able to get the choreography to work well for a group that big.
And speaking of SuJu songs, they released the latest, Victory Korea, in time to support their team for the 2010 FIFA World Cup. What does this have to do with OML you might ask? Since OML was shown at SBS, and the station has broadcasting rights to the World Cup, it will affect the prime time dramas currently airing. They have postponed dramas like Bad Guy and Coffee House for at least a week or up to a month for some. I'm glad OML has finished because I don't know what I'll do if it was one of the shows affected. Can you imagine stopping at episode 6 or 8 or 10 and would not be able to resume for, at the worst scenario, a month? Yikes! I might have gone crazy if that happened! No KH & MW & YE??? I probably would've booked a trip to Korea and started a protest at the SBS building...would have been that desperate for a fix of my weekly OML! I'm actually watching CH and I admit that episode 8 left a little cliffhanger but I'm not that bothered that I won't be able to watch next week's episode. I'm enjoying it but I'm not as connected to it as I was (still am!) with OML. Oh well! Too bad for the fans of those other dramas! Go team South Korea! Hehehe =)
Go team OML! Good night!
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203 a_fan
June 9, 2010 at 11:47 PM
Reading the recap of the final episode of Cinderella makes me glad that I settled on Oh My Lady.
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204 sajor
June 10, 2010 at 12:12 AM
its beyond 200 already! we guys should congratulate ourselves.. i'll do so by adding another comment, hehe.
@kappy: it was actually from your comment about feeling the need to break the triple digits that gave me the idea to post something about reaching 200, as from that i knew its not just me who would want to do so..so thanks for that! and more thanks that it turns out there's a lot of us! and from the ones posted here i'm glad it has never really been about reaching or topping 200 per se, but about sharing our ideas and passion for OML.
@ace, thanks for that link.. so there's a lot of similarities between the real CSW and MW. CSW put a lot of his actual self in portraying MW, and realizing this made MW somewhat more natural to me. Since the "awe" for MW is really strong here, and especially from like you, it is likely that i'll be influenced and share more of your take regarding the portrayal of his character once i watch this show again.
@mel, there's no need to change OML sisterhood, i can actually fit into it, if you can just consider me a sister..hehe.. oh sobia suggested a good one - theOMLhood.. now it dawns on me that this kind of show won't particularly attract people from my demographic, anyway, doesn't bother me at all, or at least not to an extent that i'm, what, bothered?
@sobia, oh so the english title for this was really from that song? and yeah, i see the connection, and at one point of view the song would really be a fit description for the OML drama in that both guys realize the value of the lady, although the manner in which they do seems different. now, do you happen to know what the literal translation of the korean title into english is? or anybody knows? just curious..
@mel and ace again, kababayan ako!
@sobia again; i liked your take on CSW's version of the OML song is, and it would be perfect if CR plays the lady on the mtv, hehe
to all, thanks for the comments.. let's keep this alive for a long while more!
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205 MEL
June 10, 2010 at 12:26 AM
YEY!!!! OML 200 and beyond, @ sobia, I goggled the song and found a light rock song, someone from the writing team may have based the drama on this song, a celebrity's need for his lady, unsure if all the glory was what he needed, searching for his lady share the glory and whatever came with it, how fitting that the lyrics are just perfect for SMW and his lady YKH ....pls copy paste:
Barry Manilow Oh My Lady .Mp3 - Free MP3 Download
@ace, yep I'm a kababayan =) who discovered Kdramas and can't seem to let go and really don't want to let go of the addiction as you may have noticed in the last 200 posts.... Yes we are lucky that OML ended before the World Cup. Like I said previously, the opening episodes for OML were postponed because of the Olympics, I'm so glad I hung around and found the treasure that OML is.
@luthisdrama and @ace regarding how SMW and YKH's stating how grateful they are to each other vs "I love you's" I'm with you both, there really was no need for that to be said. Neither one may have noticed the other's behavior and the demonstration was already ongoing from the first few episodes and the climactic end. MW and KH were so in tune to each other that no words were needed. I'm so glad MW wasn't afraid to show his love for KH--slowly and towards the end he was just full on in his love for her. The little details like MW not forgetting the purse when he grabs KH, his enjoying KH's rendition of the Wax's Oppa. MW waiting for KH outside of the theatre and watching KH enjoy herself during the play in ep 6, as well as being solicitous of KH by offering her to eat the gourmet cookies at the after party. MW being worried about KH after the water incident, asking for another serving of ramyon for himself hoping that KH would eat the first "ruined" serving... and accepting KH's invitation to drink that led the kiss. I'm so glad that KH held on to MW and didn't slap him. Sooo, I'm repeating myself but, I just so enjoy the many MW and KH interludes. in ep 15 when MW woos KH full throttle,he just did so much for KH one was the bouquet of flowers and then sends the text "more beautiful than a flower... KH." Finally, at the end of the play MW looks for KH and she congratulates him and he hugs her as if he didn't want to let her go... of course he probably didn't want to. I could just melt....actually I did many times during OML. Yeah, they may be cliches but the corny side of me just gobbled them all up, I'm so glad OML is full of them.
............ Good night to all in the OML HOOD....
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206 Belle
June 10, 2010 at 2:13 AM
I've been re-visiting this site everyday just to check for new comments ~
I'm really enjoying reading and loving all the comments by all ~
They are so well-written ~ Well done team OML ! :)
@ Mel.. reading all the little details you've written..
Awww... OML.. really can tug at the heart strings for all their subtleties and simplicities...
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207 doraemon
June 10, 2010 at 3:35 AM
Yeah !!! We exceeded 200 !!!! Thanks, all lovely OML fans !!! I love all of you ! Without this forum, it will be so painful with no OML days, it's almost a month since OML ended :(
I'm re-watching OML all over again and have been visiting this site everyday for the comments ! It's amazing that we have so much to say for our favourite drama and favourite couple. I dare say OML will be the BEST drama for me for 2010 (I still can't bring myself to start any new drama and just continue re-watching OML).
For myself, I'm also amazed how OML changes my life. 'Because of OML, I get to know Chae Rim and hopelessly addicted to Choi Si Won (actually it's Sung Min Woo whom I like), then because of CSW, I watched Bonanama MV and get to know Super Junior. I've never imagined myself enjoying dance music and a young boy band and have such a young idol !!!! Ha ha ......Suddenly I feel that I'm 10 years younger.
Please keep this forum alive for a while longer ........
3 cheers to all OML fans !!!!
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208 epyc
June 10, 2010 at 6:05 AM
Congratulations, everyone! Love all your comments and great to know the OML sisterhood and brotherhood well and alive..... Keep the comments coming!
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209 koreanpsyche
June 10, 2010 at 6:35 AM
CONGRATULATIONS to all of us for breaking the 200 barrier! And congrats, too, for keeping the OML fire and passion alive!
@sajor....i'm quite speechless! I admire your devotion to the sisterhood...errrrrrr, OMLhood! I hope to meet more guys of your kind! Mabuhay!
@kappy...."Foxy Lady" (or What's up, Fox?) is another kdrama featuring Ko Hyun Jung and Chun Jung Myung. I watched it a year ago and I enjoyed it a great deal. It's a May-December love affair with lots and lots of comic flair ( I am a sucker for this kind of story; I am a living proof that this is possible and this HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE!)
@doraemon...same here. I have been watching and rewatching OML episodes for only-God-knows how many times now and I still get the same warm, light, fluffy feeling that I had the first time I watched them. If this is not addiction then I don't know what it is!
@sobia....(hello again) @ your : "I am thinking that Minwoo could strip the song down and make it a nice, sweet ballad, something acoustic, performed in front of the fireplace, wearing a fetching sweater, looking all handsome…" such a romantic soul, you! No wonder OML went straight to your heart as it did in the heart of all of us here who are ( I assume) just a step away from losing their wits, wishing for more KH / MW moments!
Hurray for OML fanatics all over the world!
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210 Ace
June 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM
@Sajor - I was browsing through the previous comments again and noted that you were the one who dissected the kiss on episode 6!!! It just made me laugh out loud (not in a bad way, so no offense okay?). I just thought, as most readers probably did as well, that a female fan wrote that... =)
If I haven't said it before, I'm saying it now: I really appreciate all of you for your comments, opinions, views, & (constructive) criticisms. Some posts have really kept the discussion going so kudos to everyone's efforts. Loved all your honesty and openness. Let's keep this up!
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211 Ace
June 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM
@4 sajor's question to sobia - There's no literal translation of the Korean title. It's still Oh! My Lady but was just spelled using the Korean Alphabet (Hangul). When Romanized, the characters would literally be: "O! Mai Reidi" (r/l). (whaddaya know? I still remember my Hangul lessons!)
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212 luvthisdrama
June 10, 2010 at 7:22 PM
@99 Ace - lol... ako rin kababayan (meaning me too, fellow countrymen/women). your words are so true which is why I truly love the ending...no big/splashy words or actions, just simple yet endearing words. I mostly watch kdramas. I never saw Meteor Garden or the tdrama hana kimi. I enjoyed the japanese version better.
@Sobia - will be checking out the song too.
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213 sajor
June 11, 2010 at 3:10 AM
@10 and 11 ace, hehe, i do remember commenting something like that, and yup, no offense to your laughing at that, and sure no offense even even if you meant it in a bad way (for clarity, I know you did not)..i'm even laughing at myself for it! hehe..i actually wrote that comment, as with all of my comments, thinking that (but not really thinking) the ones who'll read it will think, if they ever wonder, that it is coming from a male perspective.. just read it again actually, and somehow it is not so easy for me to read it again, hehe, somehow i felt the "silliness" of it.....it's like when you wrote a love letter, okay, an apology letter would be better here, so apology letter to your friend... you say everything you want there, of your acutest feelings, basically to show him/her that you are truly sorry... and when everything's okay between the two of you, and to tease you, your friend lets you read that letter, or s/he rather reads that letter aloud in your presence, and in all likelihood you'll be teased, and you'll feel what you wrote is mushy or something, though when you wrote it you were sincere, you were satisified.. it may feel mushy or something now, but you don't regret having written that kind of letter, you're even happy you wrote that letter, and you'll laugh at yourself having wrote that! haha ,that's how i feel with that comment of mine..
so perhaps in the future that's also how i feel about being affected this way with OML, even bothering to visit this site every now and then, bothering even to write comments once i while, joining even a sisterhood, ooops, OMLhood.. or perhaps maybe not.. but now, i'm enjoying doing so, and i'm happy with it. by doing so, i also give myself another item, another chance, to potentially laugh about in the future.
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214 kappy
June 11, 2010 at 4:13 AM
Hey there, OML Hood! Seems like we should have a cheer or a secret handshake or something... Ha!
@Mel - I'm an old romantic, too. I like the same channels you like (including HGTV and Food Network, though not very romantic). Love most BBC productions, like Jane Austen's Persuasion and P&P,and Elizabeth Gaskell's North and South.
@Ace - I love U, Sorry Sorry, and Bonamana from Suju. I think they have a really good sound (though sometimes autotoned), and I agree that for 13 (fluctuates) members, their choreography is impressive. I mean, it's "never a dull moment," taking turns solo-ing, moving all around, dancing in smaller groups, then larger groups....Makes me tired watching them sometimes (not tired OF them)! Then, if singing live, they can't sound like they're panting because of the workout. And if a member or two is absent for some reason, having to change formation a bit. Ahhh, youth! And dedication, of course. Oh, and their "reality" show "Super Junior Full House" shows their comradeship, which is nice to watch. I admire SW for his Christian values, and if he indeed manages to read the Bible everyday, he is more of an example to me, since I, in my somewhat less busy life, find it hard to keep up daily with my scripture reading.
Loved your rave back at @85 (I think). LOL at reading of your considering booking a flight to Korea to protest at SBS if OML programming were messed up due to WC soccer, and also of how you reacted to the last 2 episodes of PT. Sounds like me! In fact, a lot of you sound like me. Which is why we're here pounding away at these comments, I guess!
@Lumi and @doraemon - I'm also old enough to be their (Suju's) mother, but I still like this younger stuff. Never stopped liking dance stuff, actually. I may no longer look cool trying to dance to it (I may never have, even in my youth, for that matter), but I haven't reached the age where my liking that stuff has turned off ...yet. Will that age come? Maybe, maybe not.
@sobia - Thanks for the song. It sounds like indeed that's where they got the title. I'd just assumed it was another one of those "different" k-drama titles.
@koreanpsyche - Thanks for the info on "Foxy Lady." Clears things up. Must check it out one of these days. Liked your terminology in describing when you watched OML again - "same warm, light, fluffy feeling."
@firsttimenewbie - Thanks for answering back a bit about when MW stopped barking out commands. I was thinking it was probably a significant turning point for him as to when Yura left the picture and when KH entered.
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215 kappy
June 11, 2010 at 4:22 AM
Okay, arbitrary thoughts section -
Loved how MW said, "For Pete's sake!" after discovering why she covered the sleeping him with the cloth in the car.
Enjoyed how KH said "Aiyoo! Min Woo shi!" in her cheesy way after learning that the teddy bears were all for YE.
I like SW's hands. Yes, I look at hands and appreciate when they have a nice shape about them, and how they are used...like when they clapped when he tried to snap out of staring at KH's lips before the kiss, and when they gently, yet in a take-control way took her wrist those few times removing her from danger, and when they held her face while kissing her at the end.
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216 sajor
June 11, 2010 at 5:13 AM
@ ace, thanks for your explanation on the OML title.. so the title really is an english one.. wow, you really know some korean
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217 Doraemon
June 11, 2010 at 9:21 AM
@kappy, I like and agree with yr observations on MW's hands :) I particularly like the clapping part before the kiss, so cute and natural :) There's also this scene where MW joined the show company staff for lunch, and saw that KH was so attentive to SJ (all his facial expressions were soooo cute, full of jealousy), as he walked out of the restaurant, his hand gesture was soooooo funny (he mumbled that he's sure there's something going on between KH and SJ).
Now that I'm re-watching OML, I find that I'm enjoying the 1st 8 episodes even more, it's so warm and sweet to see how MW gradually falls for KH without he himself realizing it.
@sajor, having reading all yr earlier comments, I'm also pleasantly surprised that you're a guy :)
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218 MEL
June 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM
.... to all in the OML-HOOD, I still cannot get over how everyone in this forum just validates how we all love OML ( I don't want this to end nor disappear!!!) and it's such a warm feeling that I keep refreshing this site to see if there any new posts....
@207 Doraemon, @214 kappy, @ Lumi, @ace, everybody --I'm with you that it's been painful without OML but it's eased with this wonderful forum. Having CSW in SU JU promoting their 4th album also eases that pain--withdrawal--obsession from OML. The youthful vitality of SU JU in their goofiness, humor, of course awesome choreography and their songs not just the dance songs but also their ballads (with some of the loveliest lyrics.... of course with the help of many fans who have romanized and translated their songs on YOU TUBE-YT), added to my being a fan to these boys---uhmm-- young men. Many of their songs echo how mature , romantic and down to earth they really are. Watching them dance, goof off with vigor is quite fun. Like @ Lumi I'm quite up there in the age range but in my heart watching these young men helps me rediscover my youth. I would so like to watch them LIVE--AND MORE SO IF THE FULL 13 MEMBERS WERE TOGETHER ALONG WITH HENRY AND ZOUMI... Their concerts shown on YT indicate they have no phobia with playing around with their audience. ARE THEY ever gonna do concerts here in the U S? If not I'll fly to Asia even RP or ROK to attend their concert--though I would prefer a small venue to just watch and enjoy them up close. I'd be right up in the front with the biggest grin and a huge water gun!!! ANYONE WANT TO JOIN ME??? Though I am quite loud at these things but they can be so much fun... These guys are right up there with my love for Earth, Wind and Fire!!! ...okey enough of that....
@214 kappy awww--my favorite Jane Austen work is Persuasion--the best part was when Capt Wentworth (with the dashing Cyrian Hinds) reveals his feelings in the letter to Anne (another lovable actress Amanda Root--I loved the 1995 BBC/Mobil--Masterpiece Theatre version, which by the way is still on YT if anyone is interested, it's short and sweet...), with the close second Pride and Prejudice!!! There was a time that my obsession--addiction to these stories were as bad as my current addiction to OML!!! The DVDs were permanently in the player so I could replay them at any time that I wished!! I used to channel surf looking for any BBC/English dramas prior to my Kdrama obsession, now OML has overtaken any other addiction!!
...back to OML, do you all think that a sequel is doable? Hmmm.... a reunion is okey for me. OML 1 is more than enough charm for me.... I just love how it was and is... @ 215 kappy and @217 doraemon regarding SMW's hands, I also watched those hands during the show. We all know that CSW is known as the gestures man. He has no trouble using his body to communicate--uhmmm, that gorgeous body with the face, hands and of course not to mention the choco abs.
@sajor--love your take on OML, keep on going sooo will this go beyond the triple digits????
Have a nice weekend everyone in the OMLHood....
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219 Lumi
June 11, 2010 at 6:49 PM
@ Mel Thank you for your words. I so much love kpop and dancing that I wonder, and worry that I may not be able to dance as I can still do as I grow older, but I'll still try.
I was a Su Ju fan before I started watching OML. That's what probably led me to watch OML. ( Heechul was the hook that caught me and reeled me into SuJu fandom.)
Many moons ago I stumbled on a YT clip of the show Star King where Heechul was the focus. Somehow it led me to search more videos of his, and a new(Su Ju) world opened in front of my eyes.
Through a good number of video clips from their participation in all kinds of variety shows; not only was I highly entertained, but got to know them and developed affection for such sweet, noble and hardworking guys.
Siwon doesn't seem to do a lot of variety shows.
I have yet to see an interview post OML where he is asked about it. I wonder what he has to say. Was he disappointed that the ratings weren't stellar?
I found the a clip of the drama presentation with the cast. Unfortunately it doesn't have subtitles and the video quality is poor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPt-t8XRPfk&feature=related
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220 firsttimenewbie
June 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM
Wow. I've been MIA for a couple of days, and it's past 200.
Amazing.
I'm just going to quickly address a few things. I'm sorry if I don't specifically mention the person, but I'm going to keep up more dilligently from now on, so I can properly address everything.
!) To the person who recommended Lawyers of Korea, and the one who said it was better than Love Marriage, I shall check it out.
2) I love J Dramas, too. Because there's something so understated about a lot of them. And I love the limited amount of episodes.
3)Taiwanese dramas..not really as much. I've seen just a few.
4) I'm glad to not have picked up CS and PT. CS was looking interesting to me, but I want something that ends well and is an overall good product.
5) MW and KH didn't say I love you. I think "I love yous" are overrated. Especially in English. Hah!
7) Awesome to have a guy, sajor. Were you the one who was commenting on Yura's hotness in the Viikii videos? She did look ridiculously good after that workout session.
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221 epyc
June 12, 2010 at 1:33 AM
@ 20 firsttimenewbie
I can second the recommendation of Lawyer of Korea. It doesn't have a traditional gorgeous handsome lead but LSJ is such a great character actor that he brings his 'asshole-turned-good' character alive. LSK is lovely there as the female lead. The only current drama I'm watching right now is her My Country Calls - a mindless fun comedy that you can't help falling in love with the main and supporting cast.
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222 twubble
June 13, 2010 at 5:26 AM
Gosh, I've been MIA and it's way past 200 posts. I introduced OML to my sister and she's been hogging my computer ever since. She was in my bedroom last night and in the wee hours of the morning shouted OMG! OMG! which naturally woke me up with a start! Guess what, she was at the end of episode 12.......she continued watching until the end and her parting shot to me this morning was I had to be the ahjumma for the day to her hubby and her brood while she catches upon her beauty sleep!
The OMLhood seem to have similar tastes because I love Jane Austen as well!
It occurred to me that if the 2 leads, CR and CSW were to just walk about in a mall I would do a double take and look at them because they look good together. They were well cast. Although I did think, at times, CSW did look very young but he played an older man, growing to love his child extremely well. That his feelings for KH grew in tandem was also well conveyed.
I did not enjoy the scenes with SJ and his wife as much as I enjoyed the scenes with KH's friend BN, the child psychologist. She was spot on as a SMW fan and I really loved the scenes with her especially in episode 16. I suppose SJ and his wife were the foil to MW and KH, the total lack of communication vs open communication with almost no secrets. I thought that was part of the reason MW was mad with KH in Ep 16, not so much because she avoided him but because she seemed to have confided in SJ at the rooftop instead of to him.
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223 koreanpsyche
June 13, 2010 at 8:19 AM
@222 twubble....i totally agree: "SJ and his wife were the foil to MW and KH, the total lack of communication vs open communication"---considering that our two leads always talk like an old couple. They have a deep connection in that they can understand each others' gestures, reactions and even glances. ( In ep 15, SJ himself wondered about this when he asked KH, "Do must know him (MW) well? To be able to read his gaze?" ) And the best thing about MW and KH is that they never give up on each other; they cultivate in and towards each other mutual respect, belief and trust that help them grow as individuals who perfectly complement one another.
...if you could find someone like that, if you could find a love like that, wouldn't you be able to willingly give up everything and follow your heart?
...beyond 200...OML legacy lives on!
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224 Sobia
June 13, 2010 at 7:21 PM
@ 2Ace, @12 lovethisdrama: Here is a direct link to Manilow's "Oh My Lady" song: http://s0.ilike.com/play#Barry+Manilow:Oh+My+Lady:6040040:s28283021.8123394.5650091.0.2.213%2Cstd_1152462a70ee4913bb65e24e43805bf1. Reading the lyrics made me think it would be a soft, sweet pop song, as the speaker appears to be yearning for his lady, but Manilow's version actually is light rock, and a little angry.... It’s interesting how much the singer and music affect the way you interpret a song's lyrics.. I still prefer my imaginary Minwoo version of the song ;-).
@9 koreanpsyche: Your comment genuinely made me laugh out loud. It’s so true, though, as I for one am definitely at wit’s end from missing the MW-KH pairing too much... Sometimes, I like to think about how they moved to a nice, big house close by to Seoul and got a dog; MW is preparing for his new drama role (and actually staying awake while reading the script); Kae-hwa is busy planning the newest musical with The Show and is writing a cookbook; they still go to the sauna with the girls and have deep discussions over rice drinks … Okay, I have totally lost my mind over this show…
@ 4 Sajor: See, this is one of the reasons why I like coming to Dramabeans so much -- I never even thought of the fact that Kae-hwa might be the lady in Shijoon’s “Oh My Lady” interjection, since I was so Minwoo-centric. I had a different interpretation – that both Kae-hwa and Ye-eun were the “lady” of the show’s title, since both end up providing the companionship that gives meaning to Minwoo’s life. When you take account of the song lyrics, Ye-eun makes even a little more sense than Kae-hwa as the “Lady”, since she and Minwoo are more separated by his fame than MW and KH are. But I totally see how Shijoon – who has been so positively affected by Kae-hwa’s goodness—could also be the one exclaiming “Oh My Lady!” Kae-hwa is awesome, the heart of the show, and she deserves the praise.
And @ 13 Sajor: Thanks for being so genuine, even when you are writing about your reasons for being genuine in your comments. =-) Your comment rings very true for me. And to ditto what @10 Ace said, I am really appreciative of everyone’s honesty and sincerity here! It's what makes these 200+ comments so great.
@14 Kappy, you mentioned “Super Junior Full House” -- I just stumbled on this show a few weeks ago, and cannot believe that I only recently discovered how hysterical the SuJu boys are. This show is comedy gold, from the ridiculous Japanese and Chinese “greeting dances”…to Heechul’s entertaining love/hate relationship with houseguest Anya…to the boys’ raucous English lessons (which include such practical training as re-enacting scenes from the movie Titanic, picking arm wrestling fights in pubs and asking for the phone numbers of pretty, blond Americans)… I haven’t laughed this hard in awhile. Oh, adorable Super Junior boys, I tried so hard to resist you, but you make it so difficult…
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225 Sobia
June 13, 2010 at 11:20 PM
So, I have been rewatching episodes 1-8, and it has caused me to rethink my position that Minwoo started off OML as a selfish person ...
In Episode 4, Yura remarks to Minwoo that he hasn’t changed from being the nice, friendly guy she remembers from their school days. So I guess that means that Minwoo was, at least prior to achieving fame, a pretty nice guy. Of course, Yura could be buttering him up with this compliment ... But then I got to thinking that there actually is a lot of evidence that Minwoo is a pretty nice guy from the very beginning of the show. As Mel commented before, he is very quick to forgive KH -- for hitting him with the vacuum when she mistook him for an intruder (their first encounter—kekeke); for obtaining the DNA results without asking him; etcetera. He is clearly moved by her situation with Minji and her ex-husband, and it makes him feel a lot of compassion towards her. And he frequently shows he is pretty sensitive -- for instance, when he was watching the musical alongside Yura and Kae-hwa in Episode , MW’s reactions to the performance were much more similar to KH’s than Yura’s – while Yura was more interested in scorning Kae-hwa’s enthusiasm, Minwoo was laughing out loud at the funny parts of the show, and seemed really touched by the same song that brought tears to KH’s eyes – in fact, it almost look like he was tearing up too. Minwoo might be faking some aspects of his public image – like reading Paul Coelho—but his niceness and sensitivity appear to be genuine aspects of his personality….
This all makes me think that Minwoo’s real character flaw is not really his arrogance/self-centeredness so much – since he can get a firm enough handle on his large ego to still treat people pretty decently and react to emotional situations with sensitivity. Instead, I think Minwoo's real flaw is the fact that he lets his fear dictate his actions. We know that Minwoo is is deathly afraid of anyone finding out about Ye-eun because he fears the huge scandal that will result and its consequences to his career. Simply because of this fear, he is willing to neglect his daughter, despite her utter adorableness and the prospect of unconditional love she offers him. He is insecure about his acting abilities and urges his manager to stick to landing him comfortable, easy roles, because he is fearful of really challenging himself and of failing.
So I don't really think Minwoo is a truly selfish person at any point in the show, just scared and immature. This realization makes me think differently of Minwoo, and it makes me much more sympathetic to his plight. Being fearful when you are young and in a difficult situation is very relatable. Being selfish because you ultimately believe your happiness is more important than everyone else’s is more difficult to forgive. I think this is an important difference between Kae-hwa's first husband and Minwoo, since Byung-hak actually does put himself before Minji and Kae-hwa. While Minwoo's behavior early in the show makes you think that he is a similarly selfish guy will never be worthy of Kae-hwa, I think he actually proves to have a lot more in common with Kae-hwa than it appears, in that he is a fundamentally decent person who just needs to learn how to deal with his fears.
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226 Ace
June 14, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Hi everyone! I did a lot of sleeping over the weekend so I haven’t posted since 6/10. This is fairly long, so apologies in advance...
@12 luvthisdrama – so how many of us so far are kababayans? I’m counting 4 so far. Anyone else?
@ 13 sajor – your comments are not silly at all. I actually skipped over your previous post about the kiss, and I just read it when I learned you were a guy, haha! I’m sure there are lots of things we would laugh at in the future, our comments or the fact that we’re commenting at this site might be one of them, but I believe we’ll still stand by everything we’ve said here (since it’s true!)…
@ 14 kappy – a secret handshake, huh? Love the idea! Maybe I’ll do that with my family and friends who are OML fans. I really love your comments as well , and I enjoy that we share the same views!
Re: your arbitrary thoughts – I love all of MW’s expressions everytime KH gets the upper hand! And when you mentioned MW’s hands, I actually giggled a lot and checked out his hands. Got all tingly too. =)
For anyone who’s interested only: if you want to be friends with me on Facebook, I’ll give you my e-mail address so you can find me. Anyone who loves OML, I would consider a friend! It’s everoarke7@yahoo.com. BTW, I’m following Siwon on tweeter @ Siwon407. =) I feel like a stalker! Ugh.
@ 16 sajor again – I’m going to restart my Korean lessons this July and would really finish them this time so I won’t need subtitles anymore in the future! Learning to write Korean is actually easy compared to Japanese or Chinese. Linguists have described Hangul’s design as the most perfect phonetic system devised.
@ 18 mel – I heard that they will have another Asia tour this July-August. I don’t know the schedules yet per city, but I hope I’ll be able to watch them live.
@ 19 lumi – as a SuJu fan, do you know anything about their 3rd Asia tour? Any updates would be greatly appreciated!
@ 20 firsttimenewbie - # 4 – many people who’ve watched CS & PT considers the ends of both series at episodes 18 & 14, respectively. =)
@ 21 epyc – I’ll check Lawyers of Korea since a lot of you have recommended it.
@ 22 twubble – your story about your sister made me laugh out loud. I would love to get my mom and aunt’s reactions once I get the OML DVD and let them watch this. Something similar happened when I recommended Princess Hours to them back in 2008. They actually woke me up practically in the wee hours of the morning to borrow the DVD because they can’t wait to see what’ll happen next (they stopped at episode 18). It really annoyed me at that time.
I also agree with your "no communication vs open communication" comment. MW & KH may say things that the other would not like, but at least they are saying what they feel and what they think. SJ and his wife on the other hand kept a lot of things to themselves. Specially SJ. Didn’t his wife become so frustrated with his non-expressions that she deliberately cheated on him just so she can get a reaction?
@ 24 sobia – thanks for the link to Mr Manilow’s song. I prefer your imaginary MW version of the song too!
@ 25 sobia again – agree with all you said. I’m thinking that MW’s really nice before, but just developed this shell when he became a star. He’s just choosy on who he should be nice/friendly to. I think his being nice to Yura was just a reflex (since she was the one who got away). He was really immature at the start but his selfish acts were not done deliberately. I’m thinking that it’s just thoughtlessness on his part because his manager was mostly doing the thinking for him (and the manager has hidden motives thus all his decisions are deliberately selfish). MW did not think on how his actions/words would affect other people. And yes, fear played an important part on why he was like that. His manager even encouraged those fears so he can have control over MW.
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227 Sakurakhyuk
June 14, 2010 at 10:32 PM
My god, 200+ comments and going.
To open up discussion, what did you people think of Gae Hwa's treatment of Minwoo? There were times that I thought she was too much pro-ShiJoon that she seems to end up belittling him. She can not seem to go beyond her view of him as a young and immature boy. How she reacted to him offering to help is an example. She can not view his actions beyond her initial view of him. That is probably the reason why it took some time for her to warm up to him and open up her eyes. I can't blame her negativity though, coming from a very bad divorce and all. :(
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228 kappy
June 15, 2010 at 1:38 AM
Howzit, my OML friends! It's my chiming in time...
@Mel - J.A.'s Persuasion is my favorite, too! (w/P&P close second) Loved the '95 version, also, better than the '07, despite the good acting and very handsome Rupert Penry-Jones (For one thing, shallow me kept wanting her to change her hair style -- the hair again!) Yes, and I, too, watched it over and over again.
Is Wax (singer of "Oppa") pretty well known is Korea?
Oh, about attending a Suju concert, I'm game! But are you serious about the water gun? You sound like a riot!
@doraemon - You have given me another reason to hit the rewind button, this time to re-watch that hand gesture you referred to while he was leaving the restaurant.
He honestly has beautiful hands -- perfect shape, finger length (not stubby nor spindly), manly, not hairy, and I mentioned already his use of them.
To be continued...
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229 kappy
June 15, 2010 at 3:06 AM
@ace - Hey, how about we incorporate that snap-out-of-it clap in our secret handshake? Other ideas welcome...
Oh, I took one Korean language lesson via livemocha.com and just have to get back at it. I do remember when I was learning Japanese that while Japanese is easier to learn than English in that there are a lot less exceptions to the rule (NOT hard to do, since exceptions to the rule seem to be the rule w/English), Korean is even better in that regard.
@sakurahyuk - I agree with you about KH's treatment of MW. Especially glad you brought up about how she reacted to his offer to help fund the Show Company. I was a bit taken back that she initially saw it as him flaunting his money rather than it being a genuine gesture of good will. Her thinking of him as an immature young man who has some growing up to do would indeed be a basis of why she thought that way.
@sobia - SJ Full House was enjoyable to watch for the reasons you mentioned. I tried comparing that, say, to America's "The Real World" and ugh, we're talking apples and oranges here (maybe more like apples and tater tots). Apart from the obvious difference of RW being of a group of people who've never met each other beforehand who are thrown together to co-exist for weeks versus Suju being already a very meshed group of friends who meet and live for a spell with a couple of female foreigners, it's easy to sense first off that RW thrives on controversy and contention while SJFH thrives on fun and friendship. Like you, I laughed a lot, too.
Enjoyed reading your observation about MW basically being a nice, sensitive guy whose niceness and sensitivity got temporarily derailed a bit, partly due to his manager. MW's relationship with his manager reminded me of one of those unhealthy, couple relationship where, because of some kind of hold one has on the other, he/she just can't leave. They want to, but they don't have the strength to, or, in this case and many cases, they fear what might become of them if they do.
-- Another arbitrary thought --
I wonder if SW or CR or the makers of OML have any idea they have such a faithful fan base like this or are aware of us and our ravings here at dramabeans. If not, I think they should be notified! But how?
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230 Doraemon
June 15, 2010 at 7:25 AM
@kappy, you must watch that scene, MW is really funny :) Other than the beautiful hands, I forgot to mention about the rings, they look so nice on the beautiful hand :) I don't usually appreciate guys wearing rings, but when MW is concerned, anything goes :)
How to notify Si Won of the presence of us ? Suggest we all send him a tweet @siwon407. If all of us do so, he may take interest and visit this site. I'll start the ball rolling as I'm following him; and he tweets in English !!
Once again, I would like to thank all OML fans for continuing to keep this alive ! Love all of you !!! Kamsahaminda :)
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231 MEL
June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM
.......GOOD DAY TO THE OML-HOOD (AS WELL AS THE SONG MIN WOO OR RATHER THE CHOI SI WON ADMIRATION SOCIETY...AND CAN'T FORGET THE CHAE RIM-YOON KAE HWA ENCHANTED KINGDOM IS IT QUEENDOM? ...as in enchanted with CHAE RIM...) WHAT AN AWESOME BUNCH!!!!!..... IT WAS A RATHER QUIET WEEKEND HERE BUT IT'S PICKED UP QUITE NICELY..... KEEP IT GOING EVERYONE....
oh yeah, did anybody watch the World Soccer Cup game between Korea and Greece? yey, they won, I actually woke up early last Sat and was able to watch the game, I'm planning to watch this morning's game too..
gotta laugh, my family calls me and my other kdrama--kpop fanatic cousins the Kimchi sisters--bunch, we also have one of our male cousins who love kdrama and k-pop like sajor, oh yeah this past weekend I found out that a niece just YE's age loves SU JU, every time she sees SU JU's Bonamana, she hugs the TV and says "I love SUPER JUNIOR" yeah, she's another convert--another confession we missed this year's Korean Music Festival at the Hollywood Bowl--because Super Junior wasn't there!!!! We saw KMF 2008 and 2009, a lot of fun even if we didn't understand Hangul...... We are hoping SU JU will have a concert in the U S soon. If not, okey we'll go look for them somewhere in ASIA! @ace, start looking for a huge watergun, get your posters ready, if things go right I'll watch with the KIMCHI sisters to check out CSW/MW and the rest of SU JU!!!
OOOH, this is such a haven for the OML fanatics(!!!!), what an awesome bunch!!! ... never a dull moment while reading all the comments, quite a huge laugh riot. ... there's just a lot of imagination, lots of LOL moments and just plain nuts here (me, me, me.... big time just because of the simple love for OML!!!)
@Sobia... I agree, I don't think Minwoo was really ever selfish. When he got YE, he could have easily plotted with his previous evil manager a quick-silent way to get rid of YE... but instead he made himself extremely vulnerable by keeping YE under the care of a total stranger-KH... just goes to show how naive and trusting MW really was. Of course, it was pretty difficult to question YE's identity after the DNA test.... and with YR being so totally "open" as in umm, wasn't she obvious in her wanting or using MW?? MW could have easily taken advantage of YR... as in hitting the sack?.... oh, and allowing himself to be manipulated in getting herself (YR) included as MW's girl in different publicity appearances. MW was quite kind in allowing everyone get away with many things, of course KH really got away with a lot to our relief.... and reporter Han, he could have easily scoffed at the drink invite in Ep 16, luckily they had drinks and thus, MW benefitted in that his reputation was given a boast by the next day's articles that praised the pure young man, MW.
Yes, it seems he and KH do have a lot in common and maybe that's why they were drawn to each other. It's funny that they were in their own way open to each and acted to benefit the other.
@14 kappy and 26 ace... a cheer, umm a secret handshake with that "snap-out-of-it clap," I just love it..................oh and don't forget we REALLY have to get that DRAMABEANS--OML T-SHIRT............ YES!!! I'm waiting for JB to chime in with her "say...." .... should we make our own!!!!?!!! ........ I wanted to add on the wish list, that the house that MW and KH move into has that third story open roof with an extra room where they can take quiet naps, the rest of roof that opens to the huge view of Seoul with a grassy area and a swing that MW AND KH can sit together on and just cuddle a lot after a long day, and on the weekend take out that portable stove have delicious Korean barbecue on a huge square bench with their legs folded under them feeding YE and MJ. ... of course later invite the Show Co crew for late night su ju and beer............
@ace, Lumi, doraemon, Sobia ............ SU JU and dancing, FULL HOUSE ........ concert, maybe I'll get my wish to see them.. yes, it'll be quite fun with the watergun--with huge SUPER JUNIOR and OH! MY LADY posters..... I wonder if there's an older generation counterpart to the ELF.... I see a lot of older SU JU fans at their concerts and fan meetings. Did you see "ACE" Si Won in the Dream Team variety show that's on you tube....? and from Soompi--Si Won's site, one fan indicated SI WON will be a guest on KBS's WIN WIN with other idol actors like Taec (Cinderella's Sister) fr 2PM and Yonhwa (You Are Beautiful) fr CNBlue... Yeah, like everyone, I'd like to hear SW talk about OML..... sooo, what a way to go beyond the OML addiction--find a cure, treatment .....SU JU addiction!!!! Naaa, the OML addiction will always be with me, I don't want to get rid of it... I found this great HAVEN called DRAMABEANS OML Episode 16 RANT AND RAVE SECTION...
@ace you stalker you... you are as bad as me, I've been thinking of joining SW's tweeter, but doing my best to hold back. It's a losing battle. Eventually, I will e-mail you not right away though.... and do watch Lawyers of Korea, it's a treat. Maybe we can rant and rave about that one too... When I was watching LOK, I wished JB had recapped it.... it's got lots of giggle, super LOLs, "kilig" moments... spoken confessions that are to die for, etc and a valuable wedding invitation.... oh yea, regarding learning Hangul again, I have a co worker who started to give me the basics, it seems quite simple but I need to find the time to study it..... OML again, for SJ and his wife, my personality is actually like SJ which is probably why it's easy for me to communicate in the written form. But I know how to have fun (like at concerts and stuff).... though his wife trying to get his attention by having an affair, that's just seemed too much.... I kept hoping that it wasn't an affair, maybe just a male bff--with hugs and I love yous that are easier to say to the bff than the spouse..... I still can't accept her being adulterous. She seemed like a nice person to me. If she really was mean, she would have really questioned SJ and KH's mutual like....though OML really didn't cultivate the many ANGST that were available in the drama. I am sooo glad.
@ 9 koreanpsyche @ 24 Sobia, and EVERYONE....I'm with you about losing our minds over this show.......... OML lives on in the pages of DB/JB's rant and rave..........
I re-watched EP 16 last night, CSW's MW was really able to convey his love and devotion to KH in that last episode. MW's frustration was so tangible in that KH's previous hurt from her divorce dictated her refusal to MW's proposal. Again, all the MW machinations by visiting BK--KH's doctor friend and giving the ex a huge piece of his mind.... they all worked, YEY!!!! That last episode felt rushed to many people but it was just fine. Maybe the initial few episodes were slow but that's what drew us. The character development of MW and KH with the contribution of the other characters was simple but effective. I remember on first watching this last episode at how I just hoped KH and MW would be together in the end, but still had that little doubt that maybe they wouldn't--because Kdramas many times do let viewers down by separating the soulmates with open ended-questionable last episodes--that leave a bitter taste in the mouth. I kept hoping I hadn't wasted investing my time, faith and devotion to OML with a bad ending. I AM SO GLAD WITH THAT ENDING........MW's 'you took care of YE and me, now it's my turn to take care of you...'
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232 koreanpsyche
June 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM
@227Sakurakhyuk and @229 kappy---on KH's earlier treatment of MW:
Yes, prior to episodes 15 and the final episode, many viewers commented that they could not visualize a happy ending for KW and MW. They were of the opinion that , while MW's feelings were obvious and defined, KH's were virtually non-existent.
I totally understand KW! Her earlier actions and reactions were all but a part of the pleasant confusion and the sweet torture an older woman must deal with when falling for a younger guy. Older women falling for younger men have a lot of denials, and not to mention, insecurities, to go through. They would intentionally beliitle younger men to hide their feelings. They would say one thing when they mean the exact opposite. They would pretend to be angry, annoyed and terribly turned off by everything that younger men do. They would intentionally pick up a fight with them to keep them in a distance. They would probably want to slap themselves in the face or bang their heads against the wall repeatedly to convince themselves that they are not attracted to these younger fellows. Maybe it is because of the social norms; the preconditioned notion that for a relationship to survive (or even exist in the first place) the man should be older than the woman. (This is specially true in Oriental societies)
I want to believe that this is KH's contentions in her earlier treatment of MW.
But I must add that once the older woman and younger man pass this stage and realize that what is between them is really love, nothing and no one can ever get in their way. With acceptance comes a deep commitment to the relationship and to each other; and a deeper sense of loyalty. This, of course, is not to equate love with loyalty because they are two different things ( I for one would want my man to stay by my side out of love and not out of loyalty) but one must realize that
in this fickle world, loyalty can be a great thing!
I don't know if my words make sense to you, but I do know that KW's earlier treatment of MW was natural and was in accordance with the way things are.
Aren't we glad they made the conscious choice of being together in the end?
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233 Ace
June 15, 2010 at 4:02 PM
@ Sakurakhyuk - I'm still thinking of KH's treatment of MW. I'll get back to that later...
BTW, I've accepted your friend request on FB. And thanks!
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234 a_fan
June 15, 2010 at 4:09 PM
Hi again,
Just been rewatching some episodes and reading JB's recaps at the same (yes, it's possible as I have a floating smplayer :-). I lived in Seoul for around 8 months eons ago so i still pick up some words).
Still enjoying MW facial expressions but I am beginning to admire more Chae Rim. She's very good at subtle acting.
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235 a_fan
June 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Been reading the later comments. Ok, I left a comment ep 8 that I didn't see the relationship going through. Eps 11 and 12 took care of my doubts. How can anyone say no to a loving and devoted Min Woo? I agree with korean psyche that Kae Hwa's treatment of Min Woo was perfectly natural. I think she would continue to treat him the same way even after marrying him. Their interplay was perfect. ( I would cut spending time alone with Shi Joon though). Another thing, Min Woo fell for Kae Hwa because she didn't fawn on him.
I like to think that Min Woo was attracted to Kae Hwa (first as a person) as early as ep5. Who else thinks the same?
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236 kappy
June 15, 2010 at 8:37 PM
@a_fan - I just watched ep 5 today, and yes, I think definitely at least as early as this episode he started falling for her. I was watching for the part that someone (I think it was luvthatdrama) said MW checked out KH's figure. It was so fast I missed it at first, but there it was - when they went to rehearsal the first time and Kae Hwa was admiring Teacher Han's dancing. Anyway, lots of important things happened in that epi. that had MW thinking of KH in a very favorable way and not just an ahjumma taking care of his kid.
@MEL - Just last night I happened upon that Dream Team competition featuring SJ as one of the teams. It was dated June 13, '10. I vote CSW as the MVP in his team, hands down! He was jammin'. Boy, those guys keep busy. Every day there seems to be a new performance of Bonamana, and then they're doing this stuff? Plus commercials, probably. Oh, and a song for World Cup soccer. I'd be beat!
@koreanpsyche - I really enjoyed reading your feelings on KH's treatment of MW during most of the show. I remember you saying you had your own MW, and it is obvious that this stuff hits home - the voice of experience. Thanks.
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237 Lumi
June 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM
I so much enjoy reading everyone's contributions and dissection of many OML scenes and main characters. They make me appreciate and love more this drama.
@ 26 Ace
My main source of SJ related news is their Soompi thead. SM hasn't made an official announcement, but, Yesung posted on twitter a promotional poster of SS3. and the date 2010.8.15 Their first concert should be held in Seoul.
@ 24 Sobia
You imagination running wild imagining possible scenarios between the love birds reminded me of coming across several years ago with a website dedicated to the Kdrama Hotelier. A dedicated fan wrote a he said/she said account from the perspective of the three main characters for each of the episodes and beyond the ending.
@ 29 kappy
I downloaded the raws for Dream Team. In a couple of weeks a subtitled version should be available on d-addicts. but the quality of the subbed video is inferior to the raw one.
I love Korean reality shows. They are family friendly and a lot of fun. I've enjoyed countless hours of side splitting laughing marathons.
There are a group of very dedicated fan subbing teams that make it possible for people who don't know Korean to watch shows like Family Outing, Strong Heart, and other shows where their idols (Super Junior, SS501, SHINee, SNSD, UKISS, Big Bang, etc) have appeared. Unfortunately, youtube has to delete them and suspend the fans accounts on behalf of requests from Korean broadcasting companies. The irony is that thanks to these teams, their shows are gaining a larger audience and fans outside of Asia.
Here's a link to seeing some memorable scenes of OML. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujuliJhrMTI&NR=1
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238 enjoydrama
June 16, 2010 at 1:48 AM
@35 a_fan - Totally agree that MW felt something for KH from ep5. I actually posted the same thoughts in the previous page @53 :)
So happy to read all the comments from OML lovers here. Am rewatching the show (again!) and paying close attention to all the scenes that you gals/guys have pointed out. Have also watched the stuff you all mentioned here, SJ Fullhouse, Bonamana, SJ Dream Team competition.
At least at Dramabeans, I feel sane. My kids are starting to think I am a crazy ahjumma!
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239 Belle
June 16, 2010 at 5:56 AM
Thanks, OML-Hood !
@30 Doraemon.. Think there's a chance if he follows you on twitter ? But i love your suggestion... i follow @siwon407 too.. :)
@Mel, 14 kappy and 26 T-Shirt ! :) erm.. geographical location ?
@38 enjoydrama, there were times when i thought, aren't i too old for all this ? OML ? MW ? CSW ? SUJU ? :)
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240 epyc
June 16, 2010 at 6:56 AM
Are we heading towards 300 now? I just bought the OML DVD and can now re-watch it in whatever and whenever way I want - yippie!
And, yes, Jane Austen! My number 1 is P&P, then followed by Persuasion.
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241 Doraemon
June 16, 2010 at 9:19 AM
@39 Belle, I don't think Si Won will follow any of the fan's tweets, he has over 130,000 followers !! No chance at all :) I have sent him a couple of tweets, no reply at all !!! May be if you share with him some religious stuff, he may respond.
I don't think age is an issue here, we are young at heart !!! In fact, I feel younger after joining this OML-hood and getting to know CSW and Suju, I'm definitely going to suju concert !!!
@epyc, lucky you, where did u get the OML DVD ? I'll probably have to wait for 6 months before I can lay my hands on one !!
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242 Sobia
June 16, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Hello, OML gang!
Regarding our secret handshake, I think it should also include the thumbs-up-head nod thing that Minwoo does when he passes Byung-hak in Kae-hwa's parking lot. I think the handshake is coming along nicely!
I am a big fan of Jane Austen too, and I am enjoying all the Austen love here. Northanger Abbey and P&P are two of my favorite books; I love the 1995 (96?) movie version of P&P to death; and enjoy all the other recent adaptations of Austen’s novels and catch them whenever I can. I agree with @Mel and @ Kappy that the 1995 version of Persuasion was particularly awesome. I think it was so touching in part because Amanda Root really looked like a woman who felt she might have missed her chance at love (very vulnerable, a little faded); her huge, lovely eyes could speak volumes; and her Wentworth was wonderful, not as much eye candy as Rupert Penry-Jones (yum), but he’s definitely a great actor. Did anyone see the recent version of Emma that aired this year, with Romola Garai? I thought it was a really nice adaptation—it took some liberties, but all the additions actually made the story richer. Plus, it was so happy and cheerful.
All your comments made me think about how OML compares to an Austen story... I think Austen would have approved of Kae-hwa – she is certainly brave and spunky, and would fit in with Elizabeth and Emma for these reasons, while her strong sensible streak reminds me of Marianne from Sense and Sensibility (at least, what I know of her from the movie adaptations; never got around to reading the novel)…But I think that our beloved Minwoo would not have made the cut as an Austen hero. I can’t think of a male Austen character who Minwoo resembles. Plus, I just don’t think Austen is such a fan of bad boys (even nice guys like Minwoo who just have bad character traits that make them across as bad) -- they never get reformed in her novels, if anything they become worse from where they start. Think of Wickham in P&P, that guy in Mansfield Park who I can’t remember … She always likes the obviously good guys. If Austen had been writing OML, I have a feeling she would have paired Kae-hwa up with the mature and sensible Shijoon (once he got a divorce from Jung-ah), and all us MW-fans would have been left out in the cold... So, for once, I am glad that Jane Austen is not around to mess up OML!
@Doraemon: You're right about that hand gesture in Episode 8 -- where he keeps pointing backwards at the restaurant, he is in so much shock – it’s really funny. Confused Minwoo is so adorable. I didn't notice this the first time, so thank you for pointing it out.
@40 Epyc: Yes, where did you get the DVD? I am envious.
@ 32 Koreanpsyche: I really appreciated your analysis of Kae-hwa’s behavior in her relationship with Minwoo. It made me remember how Kae-hwa had shown signs of being attracted to Minwoo back in Episode 2, when he sat her down with the bottle of wine to convince her to take care of Ye-eun. It’s interesting to think that the first person in the relationship to feel romantic feelings was Kae-hwa, since we are so used to Minwoo being the pursuer later in the show… I am sure that those feelings of attraction she experienced early on could not have just completely vanished, and that she must have spent a lot of the show suppressing those feelings, for all the reasons you explained so well. The best evidence for this is that, when Minwoo makes his move and kisses her in Episode 6, Kae-hwa – who is no push-over-- doesn’t resist, but instead reciprocates his embrace, showing us that those romantic feelings of hers aren’t completely gone (since I don’t think she can blame it all on the alcohol.) Thanks for this great insight into Kae-hwa’s feelings towards Minwoo.
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243 Sobia
June 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Oops-- above, I meant Elinor, not Marianne, from Sense and Sensibility. Elinor is the practical sister. I wish I had an editor for my comments sometimes.
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244 MEL
June 16, 2010 at 3:41 PM
@epyc...............you've already got an OML DVD.......... WHERE are YOU, are you by chance near L A's Koreatown, or are you elsewhere in the world? I'll go get my copy right now(!!!) if you're in the L A area ... just like everyone here, I want one.... now.
@42 Sobia, I was waiting for a Jane Austen version----OML , yes I'm glad too that J A didn't get her hands on OML.... like I said before, I had thought that maybe.. just a hint of maybe, KH would end up with SJ because of how the story was led. KH didn't show any type of attraction towards MW, which is quite understandable in her diatribe towards MW's marriage proposal in EP 16.
@Koreapsyche--I agree with you about KH non-existent feelings for MW in the in most of the early episodes. There were many scenes showing how sympathetic KH and SJ were to each other vs KH--MW and SJ--and his wife (after a divorce...) That would have been the old fashioned--JA way, because having a cougar relationship was quite a huge no-no in those days and also still in many Asian countries. MW would have easily succumbed to YR--run away and ended up like Wickham in PP. OH NO, 'don't want to go there.... as it stands the MW--KH tandem is the best!!!!
@ Belle and Ace and Doraemon and Lumi and enjoydrama and kappy and everyone.... I bet if CSW finds out he's got a pretty solid fanbase here he'd tweet--follow us as well as the rest of the SU JU members. They'd see there's a CSW--SU JU stalker bunch of netizens. By the way, has any of you seen MBC's We Got Married episode 50 where the SU JU boys attend the Kang In--Yoon Ji housewarming party? Si Won's gift was a bottle of champagne and a Bible....... he just looked so innocent compared to the rest of the rowdy--hungry SUPER JUNIOR members. SW shows up around the 9:00 min mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3GRo53m_b8
Enjoy.....
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245 Ace
June 16, 2010 at 4:28 PM
@koreanpsyche - agree with everything you said! Been there, done that! But fortunately (not unfortunately) my younger guy and I did not end up together. Ah, my very own Min-woo, where are you?!
To the one who suggested the SuJu vs Dream team @ youtube > thanks!! Love Siwon showing his athletic side.
AND @ epyc - where did you get the DVD? I actually squealed aloud when I read your post and my mom was like, "what's wrong with you?" hehehe. I thought it's already available on yesasia.com so I rushed to the site but unfortunately, only the OST is available. I've been trying to find even a pirated version but so far the ones I see have awful subtitles. =(
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246 a_fan
June 16, 2010 at 5:38 PM
I think Min Woo and real life Siwon are very different. I did click on a few of the links and decided to stay with Min Woo, though 5 years ago I fancied both Colin Firth and Mr Darcy.
I like Pride and Prejudice and I read it at least once a year. Many rom-coms, Korean or not, seem to have a Mr Darcy - Elizabeth Bennett pairing. Not that I am complaining. Always love it when the guy falls in love hard first.
Another good watch by the way is The Jane Austen Book Club.
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247 epyc
June 16, 2010 at 6:08 PM
The DVD - I got it in Sydney and one of those made in China, I believe. I haven't checked it out and am not sure about the Eng sub but it's OK to me because I can read the Chinese sub.
Min Woo vs Siwon - interesting question! I think I'm more into the character of MW than SW.
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248 Ace
June 16, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Sung Min-woo or Choi Siwon? That's tricky.
I have an answer, but I won't disclose it yet. I'd like to hear your answers though & the reasons why you chose either MW or SW.
For Sajor: Chae Rim or Kae Hwa?
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249 kappy
June 17, 2010 at 3:58 AM
Greetings my OMLhood friends...
@epyc - I, like others, got very excited to learn you got the DVD. "What? It's out?!" I thought. Okay, I said it rather loudly. Sped to Yesasia only to see the OST offered, and then figured you had some kind of connections. I'm happy for you.
@twubble - That's funny about your sister. Another one bites the dust! Invite her to come join us in our therapy here - I mean - to share the OML love!
And I agree abt. the contrast between SJ's marriage and MW/KH's relationship as far as communication. As you said, a big part of his anger w/KH in ep 16 was because he felt hurt to see her confiding in SJ and not him.
@koreanpsyche - MW & KH do have a deep connection, understanding each other's gestures and glances. I love to witness that.
I like your vision abt. what might be in the happy couple's/family's future. I can so easily see that, so I guess that means we have both lost our minds over this show! Yup, just a step away from losing out wits...
@Lumi - I've been wanting to hear what Siwon has to say post-OML also. Hope he's not disappointed with the not-so-stellar ratings. He should be proud! They all should be.
@doraemon - Oh yes, MW wears his rings well, doesn't he? And how he handles his sleek phone...even when he takes out the battery. Okay, okay...sounding a bit obsessed here. Sorry! (sorry, sorry, sorry...haha)
And your idea of sending him a tweet sounds good, but I've never tweeted anyone before - not knowingly, anyhow! So I'm in need of some instruction.. I notice he uses his real birthdate in his tweetie addy...same as my dad's and just 5 days away from mine. I feel a kinship, I tell you!
@Mel - The kimchi sisters? I like it! Someone asked for my geographic location - it's Hawaii. Here in July is our Korean Festival. Last year I enjoyed the yummy food, so this year I'll do the same and hopefully can see/get some celebrity stuff. I'll be looking for the life-size cardboard cut-out of CSW. And yeah, when is Suju coming here to the US? Guess we have to venture to Asia.
@a_fan - After thinking about it, I came to the conclusion that it's MW I prefer because I "met" (and "fell" for him) first. Love CSW, though, for portraying him so well.
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250 kappy
June 17, 2010 at 4:22 AM
Here 'n' there thoughts --
Was MW's car really a classy, expensive car? You get that impression from KH's ex when he let MW pass him just outside KH's new place. I like MW's car, but didn't think it looked more expensive than the ex's car.
Didn't KH wear stripes an awful lot? I was thinking maybe it symbolized being stifled because of where she was in life (divorced, in debt, trying to get a good job, trying to raise her daughter) and not being able to bloom as her name alluded. But alas, did you notice at the very end she wore a pretty blouse with flowers on it? Blooming flowers, I suspect.
So as KH bloomed, so did MW in his way. He became a better actor as he developed his character and qualities, just as KH and SJ had said.
When KH was beating up on the broom on the Show Company's rooftop pretending it was her ex, she said she would meet and marry a guy 100 times better than him. Wishes to come true!
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