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Gaksital: Episode 20

There are no words to describe the awesome. Scratch that—there are expletives, most of which I probably use. I love that Gaksital doesn’t shy away from the dark moments in history and the dark side of human nature, both in hero and villain alike. It’s a jaw-dropping, terror-filling hour, but I promise you’ll come out the other side cheering. Also crying. But cheering still.

 
EPISODE 20 RECAP

As his first order of business as the new station chief, Murayama fires Kang-to for his no-shows, his inability to catch Gaksital (um, then you’d have to fire everybody), and the kicker: because he’s Korean.

Kang-to stands his ground and argues that he can’t accept the orders and asks that he change his mind. He can’t be fired for being Korean.

But Murayama is not your average, shall we say sane, bear. He rips into Kang-to with a crazy fury, kicking and punching him bloody for daring to defy his orders. He screams that a Joseon person cannot be trusted and points Kang-to’s own gun at his forehead.

Alarmed, Shunji intervenes and holds Murayama back and tells the others to drag Kang-to out. They toss him to the curb. Murayama now understands why Kimura said Kang-to couldn’t be tamed, and gives the order that Kang-to is not to step one foot inside the station.

Koiso happily follows Kang-to out to taunt and gloat, and says he can’t ever come back here… which Kang-to ignores by coming right back in here. Ha.

He comes in with officers hanging off his limbs trying to hold him back, and screams for Shunji to repeal the order. Shunji just turns his back and shuts the door. Ouch. And a poor blubbering Abe cries, clutching Kang-to’s hat. What will the puppy do without his master?

Koiso comes in to share his happy moment with Shunji, finally admitting how much he hated Kang-to. I don’t think that’s quite the confession you think it is. He says that he’s only telling Shunji now because Kang-to is out: “Kenji killed Kang-to’s mother.” Eep! Why are you telling him that?

Shunji can’t believe it and asks why. Koiso says Kenji thought Kang-san was Gaksital, but that would be ridiculous. Yes! Ridiculous! Stop barking up that tree!

And then the bastard laughs that the locals lit their house on fire and conveniently covered up Kenji’s crime, leaving Kang-to none the wiser. Shunji gapes and asks if Koiso is sure Kang-to doesn’t know.

Koiso: “Of course he doesn’t. With that temper of his, would he have left it alone? He’d have stormed in here and killed Kenji twelve times over.” That immediately flashes Shunji back to the moment he saw Gaksital murder his brother.

Oh. Crap. Is there never a day of rest for the secret identity? I know, it’s a good thing. But my heart can’t take it!

Shunji makes the connection right away and thinks to himself: “It can’t be… the Gaksital who killed Hyung… was Lee Kang-to?” He gets up with alarm and thinks: if Kang-to knew about Kenji and then pretended he didn’t all this time…

Double crap. He tells Koiso to capture Kang-to at once, and goes tearing out of the room. Thankfully by now, Kang-to is nowhere to be found.

He’s knocking on Rie’s door, where he’s greeted by a non-hostile Katsuyama today. (Okay, so his nice face is the same as his mean face, but any exchange without swords is a successful one.)

Kang-to tells Rie that he was fired today by the new station chief, and she fumes to realize this was Kimura’s retaliation for wanting to bring Kang-to in. She tells him it won’t matter because she’s on her way to ask the chairman for his entry into Kishokai.

Kang-to thinks to himself, “Kishokai. So that’s the name of your organization.” It’s nice when the baddies feed you clues. He wonders what he can do as an unemployed nobody, and Rie asks where all that ambition went to.

He says he’s got plenty of that, if nothing else, and she says that’s the one thing the chairman wants. Kang-to asks what kind of man he is, and Rie says he’s someone who values desire more than ability—he’s sure to like Kang-to.

He asks when he can meet the man, and Rie runs her hand down his chest, “Soon.” Rawr.

He walks her out and she invites him to dinner at the gisaeng house to hear how her meeting went. I just love the hairy eyeball from Katsuyama while the two lovebirds are exchanging pleasantries. It’s kind of making my day.

He’s so wrapped up in it that he forgets to close the car door for a second, eliciting an annoyed look from Rie. I would love a Zeppo episode for Katsuyama—him pining for Rie while he has to pick up her dry cleaning and assassinate the people he’s told to, with Gaksital running past in the background to save another day.

Kang-to leans in to give Rie a smooth smile as he sends her off.

Shunji tells Dad what he found out, and Dad reels—if Kang-to knew about Kenji killing his mother this whole time but pretended not to, it’s likely he’s Gaksital. Shunji says he’s not sure, but that’s why they can’t kick Kang-to out of the police force now, because he has to keep him close to find out.

Kimura and Murayama get called in by Chairman Ueno, where Rie takes them to task for firing Kang-to as soon as she mentioned bringing him into Kishokai. But Kimura says there’s a distinct possibility that Kang-to is Gaksital, which enrages Rie.

She totally DOES have a blind spot for Kang-to. Love it. She argues that Shunji himself swore that it wasn’t possible. Murayama of course argues that he can’t abide a Joseon person being an imperial officer or a member of Kishokai.

Ueno quickly dismisses Kang-to’s entry into Kishokai, leaving Rie fuming in silence. He turns his attention to the war in China and the importance of not failing the empire at this crucial time. He charges the police with the task of fulfilling the empire’s request… for comfort women. Oh. My. God. We went there. I’m impressed.

Rie goes straight to Shunji to ask for his help in getting Kang-to into Kishokai. But Shunji shuts her down right away, which surprises her—isn’t Kang-to his friend? She reminds him that he’s the one who insisted Kang-to couldn’t be Gaksital.

He says he’s found out some new things that put him back in suspicious territory, and wonders why she’s so intent on making Kang-to part of Kishokai. What, you’re the only one who gets to have an inappropriately controlling one-sided crush?

She asks what the new evidence is, but he condescends: “You don’t need to know.” She warns that she wants to kill Gaksital as much as he does and wonders what he’ll do if she catches him first. Well I don’t like the sound of that.

Kang-to gets his wounds treated by Baek Gun, who says getting fired is a good thing, but Kang-to just makes him worry even more by saying he needs to get into Kishokai to get to the chairman.

Baek Gun worries that he can’t take on all those people alone—what could he possibly gain by joining Kishokai? Kang-to says he’s got to get into the lair to cut off the head of the beast, which he does mean literally. He sighs. The poor Alfreds of the world. Always cleaning up after your superheroes.

Rie ponders Shunji’s words, and then asks Katsuyama: when he fought Gaksital at the gisaeng house, where did he injure him? “Right arm and right thigh.” She repeats the words. I can’t be the only one thinking this: is she planning to get him nekkid to check? *sits up straight in chair*

She dopes up his drink to speed along the process and waits for him to arrive at dinner. He gets escorted in by Masako, the gisaeng he romanced to get to bank president Jo, and she adorably pouts at him for going to meet Rie. He just smiles at her, and I’m kind of amazed that he’s working two angles at once.

She breaks the news right away that Kishokai isn’t prepared to accept him with open arms just yet, and he sighs in disappointment. She tells him to wait a little longer while she convinces the chairman, and he guesses that the man who adopted her is the chairman of Kishokai—how else could she be in such a position of power?

She’s taken aback and gets defensive, wondering if it’s her Kang-to is curious about, or Kishokai. He answers that it’s both, and she asks disbelievingly how he could be curious about her when he didn’t remember who she was. Besides, his heart is filled with Mok Dan and Mok Dan alone.

He suppresses his surprise and says nothing.

Rie: I’m a woman who lost her parents at the age of nine and walked in to become a gisaeng on my own two feet. I can know what a man is thinking by the look in his eye. I know you approached me because of Kishokai. But that you want to know me, that you’re curious about me—don’t tell me those lies.

Augh I love her. It’s that amazing duality of a woman so sharp and jaded that she knows it’s a lie… but the delivery tells me she wants to believe it. So. Good.

And Kang-to matches her line for line, with those sincere eyes. He apologizes for ever making her think that way, and says he really was curious about how that gisaeng became Lala.

Kang-to: “If the same circumstance five years ago happened today, I would save you again. Whether you were Lala or that gisaeng.”

That’s it. That’s the thing that breaks her, and you can see it in her eyes. Her lip starts to quiver ever so slightly, and her eyes brim with tears.

But she swallows it back with a breath and then holds up her glass for a toast. He downs his shot (No!) and she sips hers just barely holding back a tear.

He gets droopy-eyed in no time and slumps over in a happy sleep. She takes a breath and then walks over to him. As she pauses over his unconscious body, she says aloud:

Rie: If you are Gaksital, you would have seen me try to kill the woman you love. If the same thing five years ago happened today, you’d save me again? That obvious lie… why do I want to believe it so?

She braces herself and starts to unbutton his jacket…

I’m so nervous! Where’s the interruption fairy when you need her? She pulls up his shirt sleeve…

And reels to see the bloody bandage on his arm.

HOLY. Omg she knows! Aaaaaaaah! AAAAAAAAAH!

Tellingly, her first instinct is to cover it back up in a panic. She stumbles outside and tells herself to get it together—Kang-to is Gaksital, so what is she waiting for? She can’t hesitate now!

She calls Katsuyama over… Oh no! Ohgodohgod…

He waits for the word. She balls up her fists. “Bring Masako over.” Oh phew. That means Kang-to’s safe, right? No kill order means she’s going to keep the secret, right? It’s still making me a giant nervous wreck, but I think we’re in the clear for now at least.

General Wada calls the police officials in to tell them the latest turn in the war is going badly, and that the biggest problem for the Japanese army isn’t the attacks of guerilla warfare, but venereal disease.

Kimura says what they need to do is round up “clean and healthy” Joseon girls to send to the troops as comfort women.

Fuck.

Wow, there are no words. Appalling doesn’t do this scene justice. I’m seriously about to lose my lunch. Why do I always get the episodes where I need twenty showers after?

Murayama actually smiles as he says that he’ll task the police with rounding up the women. Wada reminds them that the great empire can in no way have used government officials in the act of supplying comfort women, and Kimura assures him that no one will ever find evidence that the government was responsible.

Wada tells them to make sure there are no traces, and Murayama says that he’ll be sure to find poor and healthy girls. My skin is crawling so badly right now.

They laugh. And smile. And clap. I’m feeling violent.

A man and woman come by the circus to recruit young women to be nurses to tend to the troops. They show the announcement in the paper saying that the government will pay a monthly salary to anyone who signs their name to the roster.

The girls look up with hopeful smiles at the promise of regular wages for what sounds like an easy job. Don’t do it! Boss Jo ushers them out, insisting that they will not be nurses to Japanese soldiers, but the girls eye the newspaper announcement with excitement.

Kang-to finally wakes up in the gisaeng house and asks Masako what happened last night. She says Lala left as soon as Kang-to fell asleep and left him in her care. He only remembers having the one drink and can’t figure out what happened.

He storms over to the hotel and pounds on Lala’s door, calling out her name over and over. She sits inside, sipping her tea and not moving a muscle. Katsuyama tells her about the time Kang-to followed him here, and warns that he’s clearly got an ulterior motive in getting close to her.

She assures him that she knows, but doesn’t betray any more than that. She calls Shunji to ask him to remove Lee Kang-to from the hotel.

Kang-to finally gives up and heads outside, where Shunji catches up to him on the street. He plays the concerned friend SO WELL it creeps me out—he tells Kang-to he’s been looking everywhere for him and that it took some doing, but he got him reinstated. Kang-to looks surprised and they head to the station.

Boss Jo worries that with the nurse recruitment offering such a hefty salary, they’ll lose all the girls. Mok Dan (having actually been trained as a young nurse) says it’s weird that they’d be offering untrained girls so much money—it’s more than professional men in that field make.

They decide it’s weird (OHTHANKGOD) and agree to look into it.

Kang-to comes back to the station and puts on his uniform, though he’s on his guard—there’s something weird going on here too, and I’m just glad our good guys are getting the suspicious bug when it matters.

The score is going to a creepier place too, and I like it—it fits my creeped-out mood.

He gets a call at his desk from Mok Dan, who tells him about the nurse recruitment. She asks him to look into it to see if it’s legit, and he promises that he will.

Shunji calls everyone to attention as Murayama addresses them. That little sneer he gives at Kang-to’s reinstatement is very satisfying.

He announces that they’ll be tasked with the mission to recruit young Korean girls to be sent as comfort women to the troops, and that the police’s involvement must be kept a secret at all costs.

Kang-to and even Shunji betray looks of surprise. Well, I guess you didn’t need to look into that nursing thing after all. On the other hand, welcome to the skin-crawl club.

For good measure, Murayama gives the announcement on Director Kimura’s orders that Koiso be promoted, and Kang-to (he pointedly doesn’t use Sato Hiroshi as his name, choosing to call him Lee Kang-to) has been demoted. He yanks off Kang-to’s stars.

Everyone congratulates Koiso except for Abe, and Shunji puts a reassuring hand on Kang-to’s shoulder and invites him into his office.

Shunji then plays good cop, saying that Murayama is a man who won’t listen to reason, and that he had to play along yesterday, and pulled strings above his head to get Kang-to reinstated. Damn, you’re getting way too good at this.

Kang-to thanks him, and then Shunji takes a call from Mok Dan. Kang-to makes a move to leave but Shunji tells him to stay. So he can watch you and be heartbroken? He ends the call and says that Mok Dan wants to see him. “You drive.” Urg, you bastid!

In the car, Kang-to and Shunji play nice, all the while on red alert in their heads. Kang-to knows Shunji had him demoted so he could stick to his side—why? Is he suspecting him again?

Shunji in turn thinks to himself, “Lee Kang-to, if you’re really Gaksital, wait and see… I will make you take that mask off.”

They pass a pair of girls from the circus signing up to be nurses. Kang-to pauses, knowing what they’re really in for. When they get to the circus, Shunji’s shocked to find his sentries pointing all their rifles at Mok Dan. Is this going to be her recurring Bugs Bunny gag? It consistently cracks me up how much firepower is required to keep this girl in check.

The officers argue that the circus keeps trying to put on a show, while Mok Dan argues that they have to put on a show to eat and live—how long is he going to keep them on watch like this?

Shunji tells the men to stand down and says he won’t guard them anymore. He asks to speak to Mok Dan alone. He walks out and she follows, passing by Kang-to ever so slowly, and he uses that split second to whisper that she needs to stop them: they’re not being sent as nurses, but as comfort women.

Her eyes grow wide and she nods. She understands.

Shunji walks with her a while, as Kang-to trails behind them. Then he purposely looks back at Kang-to and grabs Mok Dan in a hug. Evil! But brilliant.

Kang-to looks away and Shunji holds on as Mok Dan squirms uncomfortably. He tells her that he trusts her and won’t keep her under watch anymore. “But in return you have to give me some of your heart.”

IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY.

She’s just as creeped out as I am and tells him to stop, struggling to free herself from his grasp. Kang-to actually has to close his eyes to keep from blowing a gasket.

Shunji just grabs her tighter and all the while looking straight at Kang-to, growls in her ear, “Is there anything you’re keeping from me?” Her eyes dart in fear and she stops struggling.

He tells her that if she is hiding something, he’ll find out whatever it is and snuff it out. He finally lets her go.

Okay, I’m officially scared. That crazy look in his eye, at just the thought that Kang-to and Mok Dan might be hiding a love affair (not to mention the secret identity part) is so intense.

He calls out for Kang-to to follow him and walks off, leaving both of them scarred in his wake. Kang-to walks up and pauses next to Mok Dan for just a moment, and grabs her hand in his.

He lingers there, just as long as humanly possible, and doesn’t even turn to face her. And then he pulls away from her grasp as she sheds a tear.

Aw, okay. That was bee-yoo-tee-ful. I could really do with an entire love story for them that’s all about the secret and what cannot be. The stolen glances and secret handholds are heart-wrenching and lovely.

On the drive back, Shunji decides to poke the bear a little and asks Kang-to why he hasn’t sought out his mother’s killer yet—if it were him, he’d have stopped everything to do that first. He vowed to kill Gaksital because he killed Kenji, so why isn’t Kang-to doing the same?

Kang-to screeches the car to a halt and pulls Shunji out of the car by the collar. He screams at Shunji to tell him what he knows—does he know who killed his mother? Shunji calmly tells him that he doesn’t know anything, and that he’d have told him right away if that were the case.

He apologizes for stirring up old wounds and gets back in the car. Kang-to stands there, catching up with increasing alarm.

He thinks to himself: “Kimura Shunji, have you found out that your hyung killed my mother? Fine. Let’s go.” Oh hell yeah. *fistpump*

Chairman Ueno tells Rie that his right-hand assassin recognized Kang-to as the man who saved her life five years ago. Oh, you mean the samurai who makes my blood curdle? He’s so frightening.

Rie quickly says that’s not the reason why she nominated him for Kishokai, but he doesn’t look convinced. He puts her in charge of the comfort women to be sent overseas. Okay, now this I love. Because there’s just no friggin’ way she’s going to carry out this task without facing some massive questions about herself, right?

The count and countess do their part to recruit girls, meeting with the couple that runs the girls’ school. No, you wouldn’t. They tell them it’ll be a great opportunity for the students and they agree to send as many as they can. You are! Horror.

They cheer and have a drink, as one such student tells her grandmother that only the smartest students were chosen, and it’s a great opportunity to study abroad. She says that she’s going to study medicine one day. Grandma gives her a hug, and then they get up as a car arrives…

It’s Kimura. Oh wait, Grandma is Shunji’s nanny? Dude. She introduces her granddaughter and says that she’s been chosen to join the nursing program. She asks Kimura if she should send her.

He pauses and looks at the sweet innocent girl who can’t be more than fifteen… and tells Grandma that she can rest assured and send her.

*GASP* You sir, are the devil. HOLY FRAK!

The circus troop waits on pins and needles and Mok Dan arrives to say she’s found a way to get the girls to safety. They have to leave town now. But as soon as they get up to go, officers (dressed in plain clothes) come to take the two girls who signed up.

Mok Dan stands between them and says they were duped into signing up and taking them by force is the same as kidnapping. But they’re not here to reason, and simply brute-force their way into the room to grab the girls.

They put up a fight and in the fray, they grab Sun-hwa too. NO! They head down the hall with the three girls and Mok Dan runs after them to fight back, earning her a severe beating.

Nanny says goodbye to her granddaughter, who gets into a truck. Somebody stop her! Nanny comes running after her to wave a tearful goodbye and she waves back with a happy, hopeful smile. Ohgod. I’m a blubbering mess right now.

Rie and Katsuyama wait at the checkpoint where the trucks will convene. She orders the recruiter to check the names. Sun-hwa’s truck arrives and the girls look at each other worriedly.

More and more trucks head down the road in droves.

And then! Gaksitaaaaaaaaaal! I have never been happier to see you. WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?

He stops truck after truck, beating the officers down with one amazingly satisfying blow after another. Gunfire alarms everyone at the checkpoint and everyone scrambles.

Kang-to gets to Sun-hwa’s truck and beats the officers down, and as one reaches for his gun, she bites his arm and screams for the girls to run, telling them where they’re really headed.

Kang-to sees the head recruiter weasel hiding in the car and drags him out. He delivers two blows to break his arms and then another right at his neck, and he falls dead instantly.

But then a shot rings out, missing Kang-to and hitting a tree behind him. Uh-oh.

He looks up… at Rie, pointing a gun straight at his chest. Holy smokes!

She thinks to herself: “Please, don’t make me regret letting you live.”

 
COMMENTS

Oh man, how much do I love where we’re going with Rie? Her Kang-to/Gaksital conflict is the perfect mirror-opposite of Mok Dan’s (it’s the man she loves and the mask she hates). And still there’s so much more to explore. I can’t believe she found out, but I love that she knows, because it throws her into a much more precarious position: Does she follow her heart and protect Kang-to? Or does she follow her orders to kill him? Mok Dan finding out the secret identity is very different in that it ends the conflict for her—she just chooses Kang-to, which introduces a fraught secrecy to their romance, but loving him was never a question for her. Rie, on the other hand, gets turned upside-down by knowing the truth, and it’s great to watch.

I really hope we take her conscience for a ride, because no matter how much she says she’s cut her ties to her roots, how can she stand by and watch as Joseon women, girls who know nothing of the world, get carted off as comfort women? There’s SO MUCH for her to identify with, as the girl who walked into a gisaeng house at the age of nine. It’s a fantastic setup for her character, and I really hope this isn’t the last of the comfort women storyline, because more than Kang-to, there’s a redemption arc for her in this story thread. Just as she knows Kang-to’s words to her are lies that she wants to believe, there’s an entire identity that she’s shaped in the same way, and I think loving him despite all that will start to wear her down and make her question fundamental things.

I feel like they’ve finally figured out the perfect hero-villain balance when it comes to Kang-to and Shunji outsmarting each other and catching on to the other’s suspicions faster. Kang-to was frustratingly trusting before, but now he’s meeting Shunji lie-for-lie and it makes every interaction between them charged with murderous tension. When Shunji hugged Mok Dan entirely as a show for Kang-to just to see his reaction, knowing what he knows? That was sick and kind of genius. Now I look forward to their cat-and-mouse games, because it’s more like cat-and-cat, and someone’s going to lose an eye.

I figured they’d find a way to back out of Kang-to losing his job, because I can’t fathom his character out of uniform. It would have been nice to have a couple of episodes with him floating about jobless like Kimura, and a little more desperate, a little less connected. There could be a lot gained from breaking out of the formula, but it doesn’t look like they’re confident enough to go there. At least the demotion is another obstacle for him, though really the big one is Murayama, who I have to hand it to, is worlds better as a big bad than the blustering men of so-called power before him. He’s great for the story, not so much for my blood pressure.

I do think the show took a misstep in wasting a huge opportunity with Damsari. When they closed that arc I was waiting for the big official reveal—when either Damsari would know for certain that Kang-to was Gaksital, or when he’d say that he’s known all along since so-and-so. The moment Damsari sees Kang-to fighting on his side was so epic and I was chomping at the bit for them to show me the big one, but they skipped it, which boggles my mind. Admittedly, this show consistently drops my jaw and delivers in ways I didn’t expect. But once in a while there are key hero moments that are left by the wayside, and at times I just wonder why that ball was dropped. If they were going to put Damsari in hiding and bring him back later, I would rather he not know, to save the big moment for the end. Sigh. I know; you give me a feast and I’m complaining that I didn’t get a cherry on my sundae. It’s just… I want you to be perfect! It’s only because I love you!

 
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This episode takes the drama to a whole new level with its boldness to approach the so-called taboo. I'm calling it, there's NO WAY this is gonna be aired in Japan and for that, I applaud the team for braving it on with the story they intend to tell. And glad Koreans appreciate it too (19++ rating for such sensitive subject matter, K2H could only dream, lol)

I can see why people find Mokdan to be less interesting than Rie. IMO she is, bless her brazen heart, really written to be the antithesis of the twisted, dark, convoluted people she's surrounded with. I do love my heroine layered and complicated but somehow here, I understand why she's specifically the ONLY main role with a clear black and white POV. In this twisted universe, KT needs someone who is as steadfast and reliable as she is by his side. I'd be honest that if I have it my way I would have her question things a little more - but because the drama's by and large bigger than just a love story (this epi especially proves it), what this drama gives me is already more than enough. Not to mention I ADORE their heartbreakingly secretive love. For that thank goodness Joo Won-Jin Se Yeon's chemistry is off the chart!

Lol, rambling xD

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This episode! Thats it! I love Rie and Kang To pairing more than KT and MD pairing!
Rie has such amazing chemistry with him..but alas we all know its going to end up in doom! *sigh*

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does anyone know the name of the song playing when kang to was talking to rie. and the song played at the end of episode 20

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been a lurker here but i just can't take it anymore.

i am totally absorbed!

i'm so distracted today i cannot focus. my mind's all "Kang To's been out. They all know. Stop ganging up on him! He's just a kid!" (okay that's Joo Won i'm seeing there. see, can't focus.) and the thing is, i won't be seeing this ep in a few weeks time where i'm from. but i'm pretty sure even after reading this recap and already knowing what's gonna happen i will still be reeling and having my own fits of nervous breakdown come that time. (no, i told myself i won't watch uploaded eps until the final week where i'm planning to have a marathon before watching the last 2 eps. kind of my saving and savoring the best for last and making it count.)

oh drama, i don't care if you'll be the death of me so long as you give me a good ending. happy or sad i'll take it just don't do something convenient and rushed (as what i've noticed to a number of kdramas i've seen lately).

you're already there, floor it!

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I think I have a snog for that show: I think I love you... Cause I miss you...

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Abe is such a sweetheart. I hope they develop his character more, maybe helping KT or something. Shunji has reached the point of no return, so manipulative and evil to the core.
Poor KT, surrounded by enemies, and the new head of police gives me the creeps. I don't like RaRa at all especially when she was in charge of rounding up the comfort women.

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i haven't watch the episode yet but i was holding back tears and angry screams... it's a terrible story but that happened and there was no gaksital to save those women.
This writers are clever to take this plot and the discovery as a breaking point to Rie, and the uncover chase between Kang to and Shunji it's just awesome!!!!
i want it to be wednesday now!!!! thanks for the recap.

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awww... Rie really love Kang to.... sad for her... but in the end, her heart will drive her to the right..
she will help Kang To/Gaksital coz she is a Joseon people too...

Shunji will never find out that Kang To is Gaksital just as what the com-wife said....

and really a beautiful scene for Kang To and Mok Dan... holding hands without words, but so meaningful...

this drama damn so good... love all....
but Joo Won the BEST hehe

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HELP. can somebody explain to me? what did kishokai do to kangto’s father? what was the story that happened in the emperor’s palace? i know kangto’s father was in the palace and kishokai killed him but didnt get the story….and also, when kangto was young, why were they in manchuria and why were they attacked also?

who is more powerful? konno or president ueno? what exactly is kishokai and are they part of the government? why does everyone hate konno? whose side is konno on? i think konno and president ueno want to catch gaksital but why are they on the opposite side? i hope someone can explain, i really didnt understand the hierarchy..

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I haven't watched the episode yet but I was screaming and yelling while reading the recap, so what's going to happen to me when I watch it ??? Oh Gaksital stop doing this to me !!!

Rie, the most conflicted person in this whole drama even more than Kang-to finds out Gaksital's identity, I loved that moment. I think the fact that a lot of people like her is because that she experienced going against her people just like Kang-to and that's what gives the both of them a special connection, while Mok dan on the other hand didn't see whar Rie saw or go through the same circumstances.

But still, I love the Kang-to/ Mok dan pairing more; and that silent moment between the two while hoding hands for a brief moment was so beautiful

As for Shunji, I'm hating him more by the episode, I was hoping that maybe when he finds out that his brother killed Kang-To's mother he will soften a bit, but noooooooo, he did what's really the worst thing ever.

this entire episode was really great and getting to the topic of comfort women really made me shiver, I never thought they would address that thing, but now I respect Kang-to as Gaksital more than any time for protecting girls of his country!!!

P.S: why is it that every time I watch Gaksital, the japense anime CODE GEASS comes to my mind ????

Girlfriday, thnx for the great recap !!! now I'll be rewatching ep 19 and 20 until next wednesday!!!

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CODE GEASS?????? ~ *painful memory* I cried everytime i watched the ending... lelouch lamperouge is a hella character to hate/love at the same time. argh!!!

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code geass..oh dear,i hope the ending wont be that painful like the anime...nooooo

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Just finished ep 20,

I loved the scene where Kang To holds her hand before following Shunji...that scene was more romantic to me than any kiss scene.

This episode was awesome, how they can deliver such amazing episodes week after week is impressive.

The issue of comfort woman, I really didn't think they would go there but they did and really kudos for delivering.

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HELP. can somebody explain to me? what did kishokai do to kangto’s father? what was the story that happened in the emperor’s palace? i know kangto’s father was in the palace and kishokai killed him but didnt get the story….and also, when kangto was young, why were they in manchuria and why were they attacked also?

who is more powerful? konno or president ueno? what exactly is kishokai and are they part of the government? why does everyone hate konno? whose side is konno on? i think konno and president ueno want to catch gaksital but why are they on the opposite side? i hope someone can explain, i really didnt understand the hierarchy..

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Back when Kangto was young, Kishokai was taking over Joseon and getting rid of its loyalists, Kangto's father being one of them. Originally he was lured to be part of Kishokai (just like the bumbling Count) but he must have resisted, so he and his family had to run away. They chose to escape to Manchuria (where the rest of Joseon loyalists are) but unfortunately got caught by Kishokai's men (the scene in the meadow). Got me so far?

Who's more powerful? Obviously it's Ueno. Konno is 'just' a high ranking police officer and not part of Kishokai, so he's clearly the odd one out. They both are Japanese, Gaksital is Korean so obviously both are opposing Gaksital. However I strongly believe the honorable Konno would've sided with Gaksital/KT because of their similar moral standing...

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i see..thanks...so kishokai is part of the government? i thought they were not related to the government because general wada, the one they call 'your excellency' wouldnt listen to president ueno when he wanted a new chief to replace konno so i thought wada was the highest ranking official...so president ueno is the president of the whole country? if he is, why not everyone knows about kishokai?

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I don't think Kishokai is part of the government but more like a secret society that would contain members from all walks of life. That's what makes them so powerful because the hands in the cookie til is everywhere.

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J explained it well, but left out a few details.

Wada = Governor of korea; appointed by the Emperor

Konno Goji = Commissioner of the Governor General district; he's educated and opposes the extreme oppression tactics that are favoured by Kimura (and Kishokai)

Ueno Hideki = Kishokai's president

Kishokai is unrelated to the government officially, but has many members highly placed in the governmental hierarchy. They plan to move Japan's capital to Kyeong Seong and control the whole japanese empire. In order to achieve kishokai's goals they decided to get rid of Konno.
Then Ueno tried to force Wada into appointing Kimura Taro as Commissioner of the Governor General district and Murayama Yoshio as chief of police in Jong Ro station by frightening him. This failed, but when it was revealed that the bribes Wada had received in the past were from Ueno he relented.

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i see.. thanks.. is general wada the highest rank in the country? or who is higher? is it the emperor? who is the emperor?

so konno is a good guy? yes he is pro-japanese but he wants to rule the country the right way? does that mean he has a heart for the joseon people? because usually those who want to rule a country take everything by force. i think joseon people dont hate konno? they just hate the corrupt ones right? konno is the only righteous person in the government? if konno became the highest rank/president and got rid of the corrupt ones, would joseon people still hate the japanese? or that would have solved everything and joseon people wouldnt have a problem being under japanese? do you think damsari, comrades and gaksital would fight against the japanese if konno was the one ruling the country?

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Mmmmmm I'm mildly disturbed by the simultaneous condemnation of the Japanese corralling comfort women for sexual exploitation running right alongside catcalls for Rie to take Kangto's pants off in the comments to this post.

Sure, as an actor Joo Won essentially signed up to commodify himself (with limits of course) and reel is different from real life and seeing is not the same as touching and I too was wondering why Rie didn't go for the thigh check .... but multiple caveats aside, it's a slippery slope and my conscience pricks me a little.

(Don't throw eggs please, it's a genuine question about ethical boundaries and I'm definitely guilty of wanting to see more Rie-Kangto skinship too.)

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the difference is that comfort women were lured and sometimes forced into doing it, and that actors (or rather, writers) have started offering fan service from time to time.

the similarities are in that both activities have a sexual content. BUT in the case of fan service, the objectifying of the person in case (joo won here, or rather, lee kang to), does not cause any real damage (either physical or mental) to the sexual object (well... he was being made into one. what can i say?)

and yeah it looks a bit like he was selling, or that his fans were buying... but it's called acting. unless someone goes off the deep end, stalks and rapes him, i wouldn't go as far as saying fangirling over the POSSIBILITY of seeing some nekkid kang to butt (i know, i know... i promise you, i'm half a world away and not threatening to him in any way) is similar to what the comfort women went through.

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re. "unless someone goes off the deep end, stalks and rapes him, i wouldn’t go as far as saying fangirling over the POSSIBILITY of seeing some nekkid kang to butt [...] is similar to what the comfort women went through."

That's the thing though -- specifically, I was very bothered by an earlier comment to this post which began by decrying the use of comfort women and then ended by sort of wishing that Lala had quote unquote "raped" Kangto.

I'm sure there was no malicious intent and the word "rape" was being used carelessly but that casualness is in itself a problem ... it really did make me question where harmless fangirling leads to sasaeng obsession leads to mad Shunji possessiveness and then to outright violation.

Agree that it's apples and oranges as far as the sexual objects (comfort women vs actors) are concerned, but thinking about it from the perspective of the viewer/(perpetrator?) makes me all squirmy inside.

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i commend you having scruples even amid fangirls, and i agree, it might have been a poor choice of words.
but it's still fangirling over a potential situation - rie didn't strip him, actually she's not even shown taking off his suit jacket, it's all make belief. you have nothing to worry about on that side - you're not a perv for fantasizing or even considering the fantasy. as i am not, either, for imagining too. from the, ahem, perpetrator's point of view.

sadly, what the comfort women went through is no fantasy. come to think of it, too, this makes the impact better - a lot of people that knew about it from a historical point of view are made more aware now, and lots more who didn't even know are being told in no graphic detail what happened (the gross factor of graphic details make people want to gloss over).

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I have noticed a lot of comments and the liberal use of the word "rape", by Viki commenters wishing a (female) character would rape the leading man. It's probably done in jest but since when has rape been used so freely? I felt uneasy about it.

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It's not okay, and thanks for calling my attention to it.

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I'm guessing it's a strain of female empowerment gone awry? I think the cultural logic goes something like this: historically women have been sexually objectified by men, so let's reverse it to show progress in gender equality. Needless to say, two wrongs don't make a right.

Thanks Girlfriday for the intervention! (and for all the other amazing stuff you and Javabeans do with this site)

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I totally agree with you. The nonchalance and carelessness people have when they use the term "rape" infuriates me. It has such a horrible history behind it and I cannot understand why some fangirls like using it to satisfy their obsession with the character just based on their looks and not their actions. siiggghh =.=

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p.s. i'm adding some pervy thought here, can't resist... how do you know rie didn't check the thigh would too? after all she had to make sure, right?
i for one would bet she'd checked that one too. off screen. :p

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@thigh wound, wound... typo, sorry.

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Rie > Mok Dan

hotter and more badass.

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Thanks for the recap! another superb episode. I don't know which one I like more, the holding hands between Kang-to and Mokdan or Rie pointing the gun to Kang-to!

I have the reaction about Damsari. After he was rescued they just hug each other and next scene, they are altogether planning what to do next. I miss their Egg and Boulder talk.

About the comfort women, sigh. I right away thought of our country (Philippines) back then being on the same boat as Joseon and have shake off my head to not hate Japanese.

But over all its so nice! My wish on Rie's character is coming true!

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Great episode! Although I'm sad Kang-to will only have eyes for Mok-dan, whereas poor Rie... well, she'll probably go all out/completely off the rails or she might end up sacrificing herself.

A little off-topic here, but I've read a lot of comments commending the writers for delving deeper and not being afraid of going to the dark side. The thing is, I grew up as a child watching Hong Kong dramas so I was accustomed to any sort of controversy and the subject of comfort women even at a young age. But things have gone down hill ever since and anything bordering controversial - heck, even just outside the norm - will probably generate complaints these days. Is that the case for korean dramas as well? For those of you who have followed it, since the 90s or earlier, has it mellowed out over the years?

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whoever scripted and filmed this ep is genius :D
none of the charas seem fake in this one, they're all very human in all their acts and expressed feelings (except for the superhero fighting, but i loved that too :D)
i could even feel a bit for koiso's childish pleasure at being made a lt.

the best part about this ep though is rie's betrayal of the kishokai. no matter how she's justifying it, not telling anyone yet that she knows who gaksital is equals protecting him from her own side. of course that's love getting in the way, but she's supposed to love and honor ueno too, since he got her a better life and made her his daughter.

and he immediately justified her choice of keeping silence when he put her in charge of the comfort women. not even is he involved in this despicable affair, he's making a joseon girl he calls daughter, do it for him. no man in his right mind would actually make his daughter act as a procurer... he's showing her - if she has eyes to see - he's not all that much into respecting her as a woman first and as his family second.

the comfort women storyline will probably bring up lots of painful memories for all the people who ever came into contact with it in real life... and i somehow wonder if the writers ever read these comments. because i recall that long talk about how joseon terrorists are still terrorists and that nothing would excuse their acts. something like this would.

on the filming side... i loved the way they shot this ep. all those secret glances, and revealed pain and plotting and barely kept tears... and of course, the hand holding :D
that's love.
and finally kang to realizes the net is closing in on him. after all, all they need now is for him to take off the mask, they have practically all other info they need or seem to want.
what will they do in the next 8 eps? i thought they would just make a long story of something better left short, but now i think they won't have time to wrap it all up. i mean, all the kishokai important members and their joseon allies involved in the killing of kang to's family need to go, and the rie/kang to conflict needs to be solved, and then there needs to be more on the viscount's side! and even dam sa ri needs to come back and do something - probably die heroically after his daughter tells him who gaksital is :D (yeah i'm keeping to my gaksital death note theory - you just watch, anyone mok dan tells who he really is will die soon. probably by suicide.)

gah, another week to go?? *pulls hair*

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This was a heavy episode due to comfort women theme, i cried so much during that girl and her grandma (Shunji's nanny) farewell, thank god Gaksital saved the day for them.

and wow Rie and Kang To chemistry is amazing, poor Mok dam lol but i want to see more of them in the next episode, i really hope she becomes an ally.

thanks for the recaps

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this episode did some strange things to me-- seeing kang-to beaten by murayama, played by rie and shunji, and secretly holding mokdan's hand (which was so heartbreakingly sweet)...then watching the disgusting round-up of the girls. i was shivering the whole time, and when gaksital showed up, i just burst into tears. i cant imagine this drama ending. it brings out such extreme emotions. what am i gonna do when it ends...T__T

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Oh my, I'm starting to develop a girl crush on La La! Eeeep!

I'm really liking the fact that they're slowly starting to develop/explore her character, and I loved seeing her bad-ass facade falter in that gisaeng house scene. I hope that she'll turn into a goody in the end, and that throughout the next episodes, she'll start to question which identity to hold onto.

OOOOH the show is getting really good, with all these tasty new details.

Thanks for the recap!

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I have been holding off on this show because at this point in history I love Japan just as much if not more than anywhere else, I mean a virtually religion less country without the insanely moronic right to have weapons, as close to perfect as you can get. Of course I am aware of the horrific things the army did during the imperial stage such as "comfort women" but keeping it as history in books I can deal with it I'm not so sure if presented with it in my favorite form of entertainment with characters I'll probably grow close to in danger if I watch the show.

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just realized my first sentence could be misunderstood it's not during the imperial period that I love Japan but right now.

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i think having a couple of atomic bombs wipe out 25% of their country's population (over a 75 yr period) has something to do with japan's present day vibration. it was an instant game changer.

and tbh, present day japan has A LOT of religions. at last count, there were over 100,000 different buddhist sects, in addition to shintoism, catholicism (sp?) etc.

i applaud entertainment that reveal remnants of history. from the looks of it, not many viewers read history books, so i encourage, congratulate and thank SHOW for addressing comfort women issue. education through entertainment is one of the best learning methods.

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WHOA. THOSE EYES OF LEE KANG-TO'S~ <3
eww. Shunji. Don't do that. Eww.
Poor Mok Dan ._.
OMG ALL THOSE GIRLS FOR COMFORT WOMEN?! YOU POLICE PEOPLE! THEY'RE HUMANS TOO! Stop acting like they're an object. They're people. STOP. JUST STOP.
This drama is soooooo amazing.
And Rie/Lee Kangto has an awesome chemistry! While Kang-to/Mok Dan moments are a little more pretty and touching, Rie and Kangto are like just so good with each other.
Okay that sounds weird. :|
Anyways, I hope the Kangdan couple works out but KangRie wouldn't be bad if Mok Dan gets abducted by an evil guy named Shunji.
But if Mok Dan got abducted by Shunji, then I think Gaksital will Killlllllllllllllllllllllllllll him.
So.
Poor Rie.
You can try Katsuyama. Except he has no emotions.

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The part with the grandma sending off her granddaughter under the guise that it will lead to a better life (becoming a doctor) was truly heartbreaking. I had to pause so many times because my tears were preventing my ability to see properly.

I was wondering if anyone could explain gisaengs? Were they prostitutes in a sense? I read the wiki article but I wondering if anyone had more insight.

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Thanks for the recap. Was i the only one who was scared and on edge for almost the entire episode? Whew!

I mean Kimura telling the grandma it's ok to send that little girl off DISGUSTING! Seriously! I knew he was evil but gosh! I'm still creeped out.

Yet I cant wait for the next episode. WHY ARE U SO ADDICTIVE GAKSITAL!!!!

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It would have been a nice touch if Kang-To asked Rie for her Korean name when she made her toast to Sato Hiroshi... I mean, if he wanted to show he really cared about her and her past, wouldn't that have been the natual thing to do?

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I've developed a hit list for this show! People who have to die or lose everything that is dear them before I will be happy at the end of the 28 episodes:
Some are obvious: Shunji (it would be epic if done by Mok Dan); Koiso (I think I will do the happy dance on this one); Murayama, absolutely!; Count and Countess, leading those innocent women to to raped and scarred, unforgivable; Taro; a given

The comfort women story was an eye-opener for me as its a history I am not familiar with. When Taro told the Grandma its okay to send her granddaughter to China, I wanted to jump through the TV!

I was actually glad that Rie now knows! Its going to make the story interesting, especially since she has told NO ONE; include Katsuyama (loved his momentary jealousy scene!)

Shunji, a lost cause and cannot wait for the end for him. PKW is doing such an excellent job in getting us to hate Shunji; the expressions, the rolling of the eyes; the down-right intensity, amazing!

Again, the writers gives us another beautiful scene between Kang To and Mok Dan; no only was she tearing at the eyes as they held hands briefly. Hopefully that got the nasty taste that was Shunji's hug out of her system. I really fear for her because of him! Its not love, its now obsession!

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Haha I support your hit list! :P When Shunji hugged her, I literally had goosebumps up my arms. ughh I agree that Mok Dan is probably more of a crazy obsession to him now which is so sad looking at how changed he has become. :(

Yea, I wonder how Rie is going to deal with her ambivalence toward the whole Kang-To/Gaksital issue! I just wish she had not gone with the whole comfort women operation; it just makes me sick thinking how the Japanese could so coolly recruit/kidnap girls.

Park Ki Woong, Joo Won, and Jin Se Yeon are such awesome and amazing actors! <3 :) They really bring this show to life.

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Good recap. liked how you explored Rara's conflict and where her character is going.

Regarding the "comfort women" - really surprised by the ignorant comments of those who have "never heard" about this. It's still happening in every part of the world. It's atrocious and scary. I applaud the authors - this was a brave and very tough topic to touch upon. Gaksital is getting better and better every single day.

I must admit, I approach every new episode with a bit of a concern - ok, you guys raised the expectations so much last time, what if you disappoint me this time around... Hopefully it will be as good as every previous ep!

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The subject of "comfort women" isn't taught in schools in europe. I wouldn't expect asians to know european history either.

However, if you meant the subject of sex slaves, it's different in the sense that it's a matter of scale and intent.

If the numbers from wikipedia are correct then 20.000-410.000 women were used as comfort women by the japanese. Sex trafficking organised by the japanese government for its soldiers is in my opinion much worse than incidental cases. This doesn't mean that individual suffering differs between that of comfort women and regular sex slaves.

You claim that 'it's still happening in every part of the world'. I'm curious about that. Please post a source for the organised use of women as sex slaves for soldiers.
Much appreciated.

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I had also never been taught about "comfort women", but I had found out through my own study of history. I don't think it is a particularly commonly taught term.

While I don't have any statistics on hand for soldiers trafficking women, I know that if you research anything about the conflict in the DRC, you will find wartime rape everywhere you go.

As far as sex slavery goes though, there are many statistics. Here is one article about sex slavery in the United States: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/05/sex-trafficking-201105

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Kangto's face behind the gaksital this week was spot on perfect. There was determination, sure, but also quiet anger and rage. Perfect given the situation.

I was hoping Rie would be alone without katsuyama but no. He had to come along. So I really don't know how LKT is going to get out of this one. Someone else is going to have to rescue him

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Btw, wtheck is her name? Rara, lala... Or how about Lara? More English sounding. Although if I had to pick, Rara does sound more ferocious

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I read somewhere the literally translation is both lala and rara which is why we see both.

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If I were to guess I'd say that her name is 'Lala', you know, from singing lalala. However, in Japanese there is no syllabogram for 'la'. 'l' is substituted by 'r' making her name 'Rara' in Japanese.

Your suggestion of Lara, while more English sounding, would never be how japanese would pronounce her name.

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i think its just because of the way korean translates into english. they pronounce her name 라라. the ㄹ part in korean is a cross between a R and a L. but Lala/Rara is a nickname anyways, so i prefer to call her Rie.

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this episode is indeed DAEBAK!
Love they are dare to touching a sensitive issues...
I didn't expected Rie's character development come this early. I expected her to found out, but not this early. I love all character development, except one, Shunji's change of heart. I keep wondering what his reason would be if he found out the fact behind KangTo's mother and Kang San's murderer. I keep expected and have highs hope his redemption would occur when he found out KangTo's real condicition, at least i wanted to saw his conflict. But it seems writers want to turn him into a real villain with no redeeming quality. And this point dissapoint me the most
I keep wondering what the purposes to create a beautiful foundation about their relationship in the earlier episode, if it will be doomed without meaning in the end....

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this episode is indeed DAEBAK!
Love they are dare to touching a sensitive issues...
I didn't expected Rie's character development come this early. I expected her to found out, but not this early. I love all character development, except one, Shunji's change of heart. I keep wondering what his reaction would be if he found out the fact behind KangTo's mother and Kang San's murderer. I keep expected and have highs hope his redemption would occur when he found out KangTo's real condicition, at least i wanted to saw his conflict. But it seems writers want to turn him into a real villain with no redeeming quality. And this point dissapoint me the most
I keep wondering what the purposes to create a beautiful foundation about their relationship in the earlier episode, if it will be doomed without meaning in the end....

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I love rie. I love how smart she is, that she beat shunji and everybody else in knowing gaksital's identity, that she's too smart for her own good and can figure out kang to's ulterior motive even if it breaks her heart. And at least for now, that she loved kang to enough to keep his secret even if it means she is refusing to remove that thorn on their side, that she is in danger of losing everything that she had worked so hard for, and she does this even if she knows there's someone else in his heart. I hope she does find her way to redemption.

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Gakistal's martial arts moves were really beautiful! Should I assume that there is a double for those action scenes?

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I think joo woo did himself those action scenes or most of them. If i remember well, he said so in the gaksital press conference. But it was maybe a double for some difficult scenes ^^ But there is a bts videos on kbs website where we can see it was joo won doing the fighting scene with rie and her bodygard in ep 17. I like very much the first action scene of ep 19 and the last of this ep too.
Thanks GF for the recap !

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BTS of this episode ending scene with some martial art moves :-)
http://youtu.be/zSIsaVkgLv8

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Yes, the love triangle makes me sad. While I've accepted MokDon as Kangto's love lady, Rie is such an interesting character! And she's beautiful when she pines for Kangto, I just wish it was reciprocated. I wish, I wish, I wish! Gr.

Also, at the end where she says something about not letting her regret the fact that she let him live... Is she hoping he saves the girls in the trucks? It just seemed as if she expected something from him.

Also, I do applaud the drama for touching on a sensitive subject-- the "comfort" women. Was also surprised that they went there. I can't help but wonder if the drama will have a happy ending or not...

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Whoops, I thought this didn't post so I added a wee more in my second repost.

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Yes, the love triangle makes me sad. While I've accepted MokDon as Kangto's love lady, Rie is such an interesting character! And she's beautiful when she pines for Kangto, I just wish it was reciprocated. I wish, I wish, I wish! Gr.

Also, at the end where she says something about not letting her regret the fact that she let him live... Is she hoping he saves the girls in the trucks? It just seemed as if she expected something from him.

Also, I do applaud the drama for touching on a sensitive subject-- the "comfort" women. Was also surprised that they went there. I can't help but wonder if the drama will have a happy ending or not... After all, the Japanese occupation ends many years later, then the Korean War... I wonder how Gaksital will play into these actual historical events or if the writers even bother. How will they wrap up Gaksital?

Ah, exciting~.

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i really wish RaRa was the Lead actress... her storyline with Kangto is sooo much more intriguing than MokDan/Kangto. i don't feel the heat/passion between MokDan/Kangto but with Rara its totally different.

"Mok Dan finding out the secret identity is very different in that it ends the conflict for her—she just chooses Kang-to, which introduces a fraught secrecy to their romance, but loving him was never a question for her. Rie, on the other hand, gets turned upside-down by knowing the truth, and it’s great to watch."

I totally agree. the writers messed up big time. i feel like MokDan should hv had a hard time accepting Kangto...i mean that was the man she hated...she shud hv been in denial at first then slowing warmup to the idea of him being bridal mask...it would hv been more believable that way.

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y'all are starting to piss me off about the 'atrocities' the japanese committed...and i'm not japanese

peel your frickin eye-lids open and read some dam history instead of watching dramas all the time.

there is NO coincidence that the pharameceutical greats hail from germany. they used humans as lab rats, in addition to comfort children!

and the war in the middle east is all about EVERY country's struggle for petroleum (including S.Korea's). i find the finger-pointing very unattractive and arrogant.

here's the dee-lio, without these wars, the industries of technology, medicine, science, transportation, banking, textiles, etc would not have advanced. and all of us, including you, need and use these industries to carry out our daily lives more comfortably.

THIS IS THE REASON TO PAY RESPECT TO WAR VETERANS. what they did is not ok, but you are benefitting from the progress of each and every war. start offering gratitude instead of complaining and pointing fingers. and make sure to teach your children these attrocities so that they learn NOT to repeat them.

Furthermore, none of your countries were A-bombed nuked, ok? so take your children to japan so that they can see what Instant Karma looks like and so that they can understand that we don't need wars in order to live comfortably.

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Perhaps you should learn the art of restraint. If you really want people to teach their children about avoiding war, it'd be great if you would set the example and just cool down.
It serves no real purpose to use offensive language and insult others, especially if you're advocating for people to treat the planet better.

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seoulfly: my intent was not to offend through language. many of us on this board use explexitives...not that it's good or bad. sorry if i offended you.

and i'm not insulting anyone. merely pointing out that many did not even know about comfort women and while gross and tragic, i was pointing out that in all wars, ALL wars, the worst of the human condition is often exposed.

if anything, i think you're the one who is sitting high on a horse and getting worked up.

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Originally posted by: 3.3.1.1.1 Awe August 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
"i think it’s important to understand that each country has gobbbbbs of negative karma and that all of us are alive because our ancestors survived “some war”…meaning our ancestors killed so we could be alive. and that is the reason for paying respect to all war veterans…we are alive because of their sacrifice AND wrong deeds.

war is not ok. so lets all work together now so that there are no more wars. its gonna mean that we learn to treat the planet better and lessen our desire for money, power and lust. can you do that?"

I'm not sure what you're asking: Understanding that heinous acts are committed during wars or letting the past sins go (of Japanese soldiers during their occupation of Korea)? Yes, there are "gobbs of negative karma in a war" but there is NEVER a justification for doing harm when not necessary. The serious issue of the comfort women and acts of killing are two entirely SEPARATE issues. This episode did not deal with the actual war between Korea and Japan. It dealt with the issue of exploitation of innocent women who were supplied (I hate this word in this context) to Japanese soldiers. If the Japanese soldiers needed to be "comforted", why didn't they bring in Japanese women to service them? Do I sound vulgar? Maybe I am because while there may be some Korean women went to these soldiers willingly, an overwhelming number of them did NOT and had very little choice.

Unless I'm understanding your post incorrectly, I totally disagree with your statement. It seems like you're saying, "Why can't we all just get along? After all, it's 2012!" However, you know that idiom, don't you? If you don't learn from your past mistakes, you're bound to repeat it? The women who were exploited and abused by Japanese soldiers during the occupation of Korea and other countries (China, Philippines, and other South Pacific countries) suffered immense pain, suffering and torture. Can any of us, who are sitting comfortably in front of our computers REALLY understand what they went through?

To write them off as merely a "history" is to dehumanize their experiences and that should NEVER happen. I can understand the reticence of the Japanese people to deal with this issue. I'm sure it's not easy to realize that one's ancestors committed heinous acts against other human beings.

But I find it interesting that you say that we should treat the planet better. Shouldn't it be said that we should treat PEOPLE better? After all, if people can't treat others better, what makes you think we can treat the PLANET better?

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seoulfly
you really are the one who is worked up over this.

i must have attacked you in a past life and for that, i'm sincerely sorry.

it is 2012 and we do need to get along. part of my post was addressing others' disgust for the japanese 'paying respects to their war veterans' and likening this act to A.Merkel paying respects to hitler. paying respects to war veterans be they, japanese, korean, indian, etc. is a conscience act of NOT FORGETTING what happened.

and i am not writing anything off as 'history', in fact, i'm encouranging others to delve into history, and teach their children history so that we don't forget.

i really think you're confused. and that's ok. this drama has given us food for thought, congratulations.

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Today an epiphany hit me. If Rie had to chose KangTo or her own life, I think she'll choose KangTo. She is so going to die. We already know she's capable facing any punishment from Kishokai -- even death. She offered her body and soul to Kishokai. I'm afraid she might consider taking her own life. She may not appear like someone who'd lay their life down for love, but I think Shunji's perspective has actually changed her, especially since KangTo really does seem to care for her -- maybe not entirely on a romantic level. But it's enough. It may have started superficial, but I think now KangTo can identify with Rie enough to see some of his own past and himself in her.

Shunji talks the talk, but can he actually do the walk? Can he lay down his life for Mokdan? I really don't think so. He'd kill his own Desdemona the minute he finds out she's been in love with KangTo all this time.

But anyway, yeah -- Rie might yet have some surprises up her sleeves. I think she DOES think love is worth risking your life for. KangTo is the one man who managed to fill the void in her that all the power and ambitions she had for her foster father and Kishokai couldn't fulfill.

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am i the only one who is loving the mok dan/ kang-to thing? i must admit i didn't think much of mok dan's character at the beginning (way too much brow furrowing as well) but i totally agree that the brief hand holding and gazes are so LOVELY!!! i especially liked the one in shunji's hospital room in the previous episode. sent chills down my spine and brought tears to my eyes, it did.

(just being fluffy. i hope i don't have nightmares tonight. and i was actually half hoping rie would save those poor girls!! like have an "accidentally on purpose accident")

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@lemonysnicket Nope I love the Mokdan/Kangto pair. They're suitable. Mokdan isn't a very comlicated character, she's much simpler than any of the other in the drama like Kangto himself, Rara and Shunji. That's why I think Kangto having her by his side is more interesting than having him and Rara together. I also like the fact that Mokdan is not skilled in fighting, but she has a strong heart so that's another reason why she's good for Kangto.

Another thing I know most people find annoying is how she came to accept Kangto so fast and now they're lovers, which doesn't make sense because she hated him and he tortured her, ect.. but I disagree on that. I think the way Mokdan accepted him is reasonable.

It wasn't long ago before she found he was her lost young master, and if you remember in the beginning of the drama she was shown to deeply care for that young master. When she found it was Kangto, even though she hates him, a part of her heart had to soften for him. To me, it's common sense. She already guessed he was gaksital so.. it wasn't that weird when she quickly accepted him. He was injured for her sake.

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I just watched this ep twice. And realized something that I did not notice the first time round: The part where Gang To was driving Shunji back from the circus seems to be a kind of replay from the past when Gang To was a rickshaw driver... Only this time, Shunji ain't as nice... And I thought his brother was annoying and scary!

Just thought that it was an interesting way to show how much the characters and the relationship between them had changed.

As much as I like how the plot is going so far now, I feel a little sad over the way Gang To and Shunji's bromance is turning out. While it can't beat SKKS'S Yeorim - Guhro's bromance, their bromance still managed to warm my heart when I saw it.

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