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Good Morning My Wondrous Beans!

I already miss I Miss You. That show was such a puzzle. So incredibly sad, although I rarely shed a tear. So completely thrilling, although the cops were THE most ineffectual force in the history of public safety, and the Evil Mastermind apparently shed 3/4s of his IQ the moment he re-entered Korea. Even so. It was also the cutest thing ever at times. I guess life can be like that, too, though, and I was grateful for the grins because the unrelenting misery would have been too much. I adored Jung Woo the boy and the man. I loved the makeshift family that sprang up around him, and I absolutely forever and ever and ever thrilled to the way he and Su Yeon managed to have such a playful, happy love despite everything that was done to them as children. And Harry.

Oh my God, Harry. What a horribly broken child. Even if I hate what he does…I never hated him. I pitied him. There in that warehouse, he was just so…dismissed. He completely didn’t matter to anyone, in the end. And then after, when we see him again - I will confess that I expected at any moment that he’d look at the screen and we’d know he was punking everyone…but it didn’t happen. I kinda wish it had, but then again…maybe this was the kindest thing. YSH did a great job with an oddly fractured role. It must have been difficult. YSH-ah! Come back in two years with army abs and make us noonas very happy! But come give me a kiss, first.

I don’t hate the ending at all. It got a little fanservice-y but it never went to Nice Guy extremes and it did fit pretty well with the story. For Jung Woo and Su Yeon, the saving grace was truly loving another person, and having forgiveness in their hearts. That kept them human. Harry had only obsession and revenge, so there was never room for real love, and it destroyed him. Guess we’ll never find out what that shot of Yoochun with the head wound was about, back in the first episode. Or what the deal was with the real Harry. Or how Jung Woo’s father could be SUCH an ass. And I’m not clear: was Harry’s mom in the wrong initially, or was she an innocent woman treated badly by her step son? Oooh, unless the writer does an interview. I wanna hear about what she started out wanting and what she ended up writing.

School 2013. You are pretty perfect. You haven’t done one thing wrong yet, I don’t think. I love you. Wanna eat lunch at my table? Actually, I have a better idea. I’m going up to that rooftop storage shed with Namsoon and Heung Soo. Don’t anybody wait for us.

Flower Boy Next Door. You, too, are pretty perfect. Although the Oh Jin Rak love is about to start an international twitter war. I may have military training…but my opponent is skilled in cyber warfare. I wonder how this will end?

Alice. Where are you going, writer-nim? I’m still on board but GPS is telling me we’re a bit off track. Do not piss me off.

I rewatched Goong over the weekend. It was my first drama and I distinctly remember worrying that I had gone crazy. In the two years (almost! This June!) I have rewatched bits and pieces, but this was my first full re-watch. I am happy to report that it holds up well and is, in fact, even better re-heated. Exposure to the rules of KDrama, as well as experience watching other (lesser) shows made this view richer for me. My Shin love came back in full force, as hoped. I hated Yul less this time. I remember back then thinking he was a weak, passive, icky person. I no longer see him that way, and in fact felt some sympathy for him underneath my impatience for him to just get the F out of the way and let Shin and Chae Kyung fall in love. I still hate his stupid necklace, though. And Secretary Moon from CDDA is one of Shin’s friends! (The one who liked Hyo Rin.) One thing made me laugh…although I felt the chemistry between JJH and YEH the first time, this second time, WELL. Back then I had no idea that her kissing him back was JUST.NOT.DONE. And there was TONGUE. Tongue on KDrama! Shin, you ahjumma-dressing, skinny, petulant child. You GO, boy. But first, come give noona a kiss.

Picked up Iris again. Gotta get ready for Irish, which looks AWESOME. I know it’s not strictly necessary, but I wanna. And I’m going to check out Josean X Files because Kim Ji Hoon demands it. I watched 15 or 20 minutes of Eugene’s thing and had to turn off the computer and step away in a blind rage over that mother in law. Everyone is telling me to give it another shot, though. Also there’s Yawang to check out, and Level 7 Civil Servant coming.

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hmmmmm its nice to see someone actually finish i miss you bcuz i attempted to watch it n after a few episodes i realized that its not my cup of tea tooo much cryin n instead of it tryin to wriggle a little bit of tears from me or make me feel for the characters it annoyed me

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Same here - I ended up skipping ep 11-19 just to see the ending, and I don't feel like I missed a thing in those unwatched episodes. Not missing "Missing You" at all.

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Oh boy, the Eugene drama! I tuned in because of Lee! Jung! Jin! and Eugene and... urgh. I have to watch it with one finger on the fast-forward button at all times and only pause when either Lee Jung Jin or Eugene are on screen because otherwise I'd probably bust a blood vessel from the ragey RAGE and sheer WTFness of it all. She makes Gu Joon Pyo's mother and the MIL in A Thousand Kisses look like Mother Theresa - I mean, 4 episodes in and she's locked Eugene in a hospital as a mental patient, tried to frame her for adultery and given her kiwi juice to drink (which she is deathly allergic to). She's going to run out of ideas by episode 10!

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LOL! That MIL is sure a piece of work. She's like a character from a cartoon. The husband is not much better... That cold widower better be an excellent namja chingu for the heroine cause she will need it. ^^

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So far I don't exactly find cold widower much of a charmer either, LOL. Granted, he obviously has "omg my ex died and I'm haunted by it" issues (we're reminded of this via flashbacks every episode, sadly), but still... I don't think his rich mommy's going to give poor Eugene an easy time, either. On the other hand, when your ex was a serial adulterer, has violent moments and is completely under the thumb of your Godzilla MIL who wants you dead, you'll take what you get!

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Hey! Slam on Godzilla outta nowhere!! :P

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I gave 100 Year Noodle shop 5 minutes and said, "Nope, not going to do it."

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@John LOL. Not going to blame you. Those wacky family shows are my guilty pleasure.

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Please let's get her out of the way soon! She takes the evil stepmother to new extremes! Time to move on to the relationship part of the drama, writers.

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I'd rather have the heroine out of that marriage first. And return her strong personality (after losing the memory she became sort of weak, but it's understandable). And only then let's begin all that bickering and cute and love that their relationship is bound to have (according my expectations).

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I was somewhat disappointed that they played the "amnesia card" so early in the series. So far this is not playing out to be the "warm love story" that the trailers advertised, but then again we like 46 episodes to go...

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I think amnesia was necessary for the further plot development (without it that MIL would already be in a prison or in the press as a criminal). But I hoped she would remain as strong (and even ironic) as she was at the beginning.

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But I hoped she would remain as strong (and even ironic) as she was at the beginning. - the heroine, I mean.

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Or even move onto the "noodle house," warm family story part of the drama, which is starting to look like false advertising at the moment. I can see why they changed the drama title from "Third Generation Noodle House," because considering she doesn't even remember who her father is at the moment, it's going to take 1. Another strategic knock to the head or 2. FOREVER before she moves back to the noodle house.

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I have to say I was extremely shocked that they pulled the amnesia card ONCE AGAIN! Hopefully it will only be termporary

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What's creepier to me about the MIL in Hundred Years is that she is clearly in love with her son. She wants to be the wife. It's insane. I can't wait for Eugene to get her memory back and GTFO!

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Many other commentators also claim that that mother is in that kind of love with her son. But I still don't see that somehow. What I see is a very strong mother's love (ok, ok, very sick and overprotective and selfish one, but still not as-a-wife kind of love...

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I don't know she just crosses that line for me. Her reaction to his back hug gave me the chills, and not in a good way.

I just think that she replaced her affection for her dead husband onto her son. She would NEVER accept any other woman in his life. EVER. And that is creepy as hell.

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Oh, yes, I remember that back hug...creepy... Probably you are right about that affection thing, but it was never really mentioned whether she loved her husband or not. or was it? (Maybe I missed something).

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I don't know that it ever said if she and her husband were a love match, but she was widowed very young. And she poured her heart into making money and loving her son. She is by far the worst kdrama mother-in-law ever. So crazy that one.

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Even in the few minutes that I managed to stick it out, that was the vibe I got. Glad to see there's at least one other out there.

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Oh you have no idea. It is so an Oedipal vibe (although it's more mother to son) that it's cringe worthy, really. If I didn't think the cute of Eugene/Lee Jung Jin would be worth it, I'm not sure I'd still be watching.

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They better have loads of cute, or else...

I'm already having nightmares with that creepy MIL...
And there I was, hoping that my first k-drama dream will be with some nice k-drama hero... :( It's like a stolen first kiss...

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If nothing else, 100 Year Inheritance will probably go down in history as being the absolute peak of Evil Mother-In-Laws.

What fascinates in that and many other k-dramas is that NOBODY ever calls the cops :)

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that's so true. Man, she be crazy. Although Jung Woo's dad in IMY was a pretty "impressive" piece of work too.

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wow, what show is that?! sounds crazy.

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the Eugene thing... is that the name?

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"A Hundred Year’s Inheritance" Also known as "One Hundred Year’s Legacy". Previously known as "Third Generation Noodle House" Phew!!! ;)

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It's called Hundred Year Inheritance. We call the heroine Eugene because it the actress's real name.

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thanks! wow, I'm not sure I want to watch it.I'm getting my fill of evil MILs. haha how many episodes is there?

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"..100 Years Inheritances has reached a viewership rating of 15.5%, which places it ahead of Cheongdam-dong Alice in the same time slot. 100 Years Inheritances premiered on January 5, 2013 is a family story revolving around a noodle house that has been run by the same family for generations. Idol Eugene stars..."

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No wonder its rating grows, I myself wait this show much more than CA now (though I'll probably fast forward some scenes).

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This show is like a train wreck for me. I can't look away even though I know I'm going to be horrified.

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I agree, Rashell. Not sure how long I'll stick with it, but for now I want to keep watching.

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Goong was my first, too! My friend in college kept watching this show in a foreign language, which I'd assumed was Japanese, because like all my friends studied Japanese. I was like, "Why are you watching this?" When she told me it was a Korean drama, I laughed at her, then sat down to check it out. I was so hooked! All of my roommates would always watch between classes.

It's one of the few I have on DVD. I actually found it during a vacation in Singapore, so I had to snatch it up. The problem is, towards the end of the drama the subs become increasingly more non-sensical. I suspect it was translated into Mandarin first, then English from Mandarin.

Not long after Goong I discovered Full House.

How did I not fail out of school? Ha.

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Full House was one of my first 5, and it's where I met My Beloved. Sigh. He's cheating on me right now, but I will forgive him.

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you sound eerily like Gollum, when you say "My Beloved". But I'm sure you know that already! :p

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I'm pale, too.

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kakashi, don't mix everything! Gollum's impersonation is already done by cherkell with her Preciousssss. ^^

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Yeah, when I say it it's not very sibilant. Not at all, in fact, which isn't surprising when you consider how it is spelled... I do, however, depending on mood:

1. Say it with a lascivious grin and wink
2. Giggle it fondly while laughing at his silly face

Ok it's pretty much always number 1. But sometimes it's number 2. And if I'm Kang Bok Gu or Sang Doo, I'm probably crying it.

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Yes, My Precious. How loudly I SQUEEEEEEEED this morning after opening my e-mail to see several BTS shots of him modelling for Alexander McQueen's couture house. Life is good. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! ♥♥♥

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@Mysti: oh gosh, you're so right ... I completely forgot about that!!

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I saw him in A Love to Kill and that was it for me. Then I saw him dancing. Sad Tango! Then I watched Ninja Assassin. I hope he is happy now, dating a girl he loves.

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That was the first drama that I saw with my beloved, but I divorced him way before he loss face in the army, and cheating too. good luck,but do not forgive him,have you seen the new crop?

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I believe I first saw Beloved in I'm a Cyborg but that's Okay. I'll never forget him pulling out a wedgie. And then I saw Full House, and went what wtf kinda kiss was that at the end like everyone else, because hello, those lips need to be put to use. And then I watched music videos and discovered his propensity for taking off his clothes and objectifying himself. I thought to myself, WHY WHY did I NOT know about this man? And THEN I saw Hip Song, and was ruined for life.

My first k drama was Boys Over Flowers, aka, CRACK.

Goong-the grandma and the two leads chemistry were the reason to watch. The show was a bit uneven and the secondary and tertiary characters never held my interest. The second leads were just...non entities, even though Song Ji-hyo has gone on to other projects to stand out and be counted. I think it just stands out in memory because of the chemistry and the kisses-we all just want kisses like that in all dramas.

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Not the first K-drama I watched, but the one that got me hooked was "My Girlfriend is a Gumiho" (9-tailed fox). I just thought that was so cute. I am not big on most historical dramas, they all seem to follow such a similar theme, all based around the same palace intrigue of some sorts.

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I LOVE GIAG!!!! One of my favorites! LSG <3

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We agree again, pillowhead!

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and I join you! Adored Miho and Woongahhhh

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yay! This is also the show that has the worst LSG hair moments. But he is adorable!

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Gong, was my 5th Kdrama.. It's funny how I have a different view. I remember hating Shin, his horrible horrible clothes,and his obsessions with his ex. Yet I love Yoon Eun-Hye and prince Yul. I remember being soo mad at her for always sticking by Shin, and making my poor Yule suffer.

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joanne! how do you do this everytime?! i love your comments even when i HAVENT watched the dramas themselves.

kim ji hoon is my favourite character in FBND so far so might have to follow you on joseon x files next - right after i am done with cn we get married :)

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How do I do what, Enz? Make you love me? Be first lately? It's a mystery to me as well, in either case :)

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both! in any case, you never fail to make me laugh. thanks

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There will definitely be war over Kim Ji Hoon. Never before have so many Twitterers fallen for the same guy! I just want to scream "Noona's here! Forget about her and everyone else!"

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looks like this is serious - i shall go for more body pump sessions to get my biceps ready for the fight! MINE! :)

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oh, come on, ladies! Everybody knows he is mine! get in line!

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you have PSH - who is RICH remember? youve taken his country house and you make visits to his apartment to see his cute cat! shoo shoo hhheehehe

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enz. I think there is something you don't know about me. I have a very big heart, big enough for at least 5 men. And I am going to change the laws of this country to allow for polyandry.

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that said ... where is my husband?! he should be home by now. tsts.

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Notice how I'm quietly staying in the background about this discussion. Although I have started clearing out some of my SJK stuff on my computer....

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to be honest - i am enamoured with a younger one at the moment - sung joon. i cant believe he is only 22!! yikes. but kakashi, i have a huge heart too (5 is about right - more will send it to heart failure) and i am capable of kicking one or two out to make space for new ones

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Hey! he and i have made a commentment. we will only look at each other. the rest of you ladies are seriously delusional. haha.

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Pillow ah, so long as you keep making commentment instead of commitment, were good :).. Mine!

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Haha! Hi Enz and JoAnne! Yes, I love kim ji hoon!!! and please watch JoseonXfiles! I absolutely loved it. A little surreal in some of the episodes, but in the best of ways. I can't wait for your take on it.

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Hey JoAnne, I was looking for you last night on Twitter so I could complain about eps 20 of IMY. And would you believe I accidentally found out the ending. (Web perusing should be stopped when I'm at the end of a dramas.)

BTW, are you telling me they never get back to that first scene? Now that is just terrible writing!

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Korazy! I hope you don't mean me? Cause ... I didn't spoil, I swear! Just teasing you-s! (though I did go and read about it)

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Are you talking about the keystone cops farce? That was the most ridiculous of a series of ridiculous police scenes throughout the drama. I was just slapping the arm of the chair and shouting commands at that point. I mean COME ON.

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Yeah, I think that stupid cop scene pretty much ruined what little respect I had left for Missing You. How can 20 cops not outrun one crippled guy - not once, but several times? He even stops at the car to chat - and the cop in the car just ignores him. Bleh.

A perfect example of why most of these dramas should not be extended.

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Why, oh why, could they just not arrest him and creepy father when they had the chance like 50 times? And what does it take for a cop to use a gun over there? Letting Harry get away in that car was beyond ridiculous!

Speaking of which, it also amazed me that creepy father was never able to track down the nanny for the money. I mean, come on.

Oh, and did anyone notice that Harry went to meet creepy Dad on his bike without his cane? and seemed to walk over to the car just fine? Why the heck was he riding a bike on a snow packed street anyways?

These are the things that try men's souls.......

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I kept thinking at some point Harry would just straighten up and walk normally (a la The Usual Suspects) and reveal that he'd been screwing with everyone, including us, all along.

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@JoAnne, re: Usual Suspect. lol. That'd be awesome though. I might even picked it off from where I left off just to find clues whether he was never crippled at all... :D

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How can 20 cops not outrun one crippled guy – not once, but several times?

lol yes.....especially when he's on a bike and there are like 25 cops running behind him, not one of whom thinks to GET INTO A CAR for the chase.

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Kakashi, you are now developing paranoia over spoiling my endings! It was all my fault ladies. You know how watching and twittering leads to google. I was looking for the ratings info and accidentally hit a page that had the ending right in the headlines. So new rule - no google search before last episode. Altho frankly, I have never been so emotionally unattached to a drama. I just want to see it to the end.

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yes! I'm dead afraid of spoiling things for you (and others)! I'm really careless when it comes to that. bad kakashi, bad kakashi.

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I'm just laughing because you didn't even watch it! I don't think you watched the last one where you accidentally (giving you the benefit of the doubt) announced the ending to all! Maybe you should take 5 minutes in the corner to reflect on your actions :)

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hm, that was Nice Guy, wasn't it? Yes, I was watching that, but was suuuuper behind at that moment. And I ONLY said it was a happy ending. And I could have been lying.

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lol. I remember that. And I was happy when I heard it, until I actually watched the ending...

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Hi JoAnne - you're first today!~Happy Friday!I was awake most of the night. Too much coffee?? Not sure, as I can drink it morning, noon, and night and still sleep. Usually. Anyhoot - I watched IMY 20 and 21 in the wee hours of the morning. I totally feel the same way about Harry - it was like he was his mother in that last scene. Pathetic. Pitiful. Shattered. Evil. Crazy. But I couldn't hate him alhtough I hated that who he became drove him to do unspeakable things. We'll have to go back and check on your question about Harry's mom - "was she or was she not in the wrong initially?" It would almost have been better for Harry to have died with that last bullet...

Love the first snowfall and all its meaning and the scene where SY and JW both had rings - awww. It was a complicated plot with some good acting there, I'd say. The words exchanged in the warehouse by all three - great writing and acting.

The scene with SY and her mom was pretty awesome, where there were lots of tears, but then smiles finally emerged through those tears as they opened up about the awfulness of what happened 14 yrs earlier and now they could rely on each other to confront those feelings when they sufraced (we can go in our barefeet and scream together). IMY was a melodrama in huge capital letters.

Whatever happened to the police station cleaning lady?

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There was some very, very good acting in this, I agree. Really believable emotions.

She was in jail, I'm assuming there'd be a trial at some point but it wasn't really part of the story. She was key in that she provided info that misdirected us briefly back to Su Yeon but ultimately helped put the pieces together about Harry.

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She was in jail, I’m assuming there’d be a trial at some point...

Wasn't one of the police chief's complaints against Jung-woo that he reopened the murder case on her? I think that's the last we hear of it, though. Unless that murder is included in the litany of crimes they charge Harry with.

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I agree with your favorite scenes, Owl. :)

And I feel the same way about Harry -- which is why probably one of my most favorite scenes (one that's pretty blatant fan-service, but I'll take it!) was the could-have-been of Jung-woo returning the umbrella to Soo-yeon and bringing Joon along and the three of them playing keep-away.

As to JoAnne's question about Harry's mom... I think it's that her wrong was in playing Han Tae-joon's game and setting the kidnapping in motion. Maybe in seeing the money as the end goal? (Though I think she was more interested in saving her son, so...) I'd definitely say in the question of degrees, HTJ was the most in the wrong and she was among his victims. And she had the grace to feel bad even while crazy. That's got to count for something.

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I will take the blatant kid-actor filler/fanservice too, those kids were the reason I loved Jung-woo and Su-yeon together as much as I did and it was nice to see them back.

And Crazy Auntie was indeed the one who set the whole thing in motion and deserves the blame (though Horrible Nurse deserved her end, after what she did), but Daddy Satan was the one who made it worse by robbing Su-yeon of the chance to be returned to her family. I'm glad his ass is in prison, and think Jung-woo is far too idealistic in hoping he'll reform (remember he wanted to try that with the rapist too? Love the boy, but I don't think so).

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I agree that HJW and LSY’s childhood sweet love paths the way for us to ship these two.

Sweet childhood memories were what HJW evoked to win over adult LSY while KHJ/Harry was bent on revenge. Like JoAnne, I wouldn’t consider KHJ and LSY having a “well established relationship” - more like having a symbiotic relationship of a mutualistic kind. LSY had been a friend, an older sister and a mother substitute. She would fuss over him when he was not well and over cooking his favourite dishes just like a mother would. I concur with JoAnne that HJW had always been her true love. She would have felt like a cradle snatcher if she had gone for Harry, a cry baby! In episode 21, LSY confessed to faking in her past 14 years that she had forgotten HJW.

LSY, having the ‘’I’m sorry” mentality, her childhood and social isolation had made it easier for Harry to turn her into a subservient dog. We see her eventually freed of the mentality as she discovered that she had been loved. She wouldn’t in the warehouse at the end fall for KHJ’s self-pity cry,”I’m hurting” as she would in the past whenever he cried out “my leg hurts”. LSY ignored him and he aborted shooting himself for a moment. KHJ intended at the warehouse invoking LSY’s memory of the rape and abandonment to scare her into running back to him. Look at that evil smile on his face when he thought LSY was scared by the memory! It failed as LSY could see HJW’s steadfast support and love for her. Her love for HJW gave her courage to face KHJ’s pistol and courage to face the ghosts from the past. We see love prevailing over scare tactics and over a skilful deceitful psychological manipulator (controller) in this final episode.

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His treatment of Su-yeon by the end was the reason why I basically wanted KHJ to just go die in a fire or something - forcing SY back to the scene of her rape and then threatening her life? AFTER the framing for murder? I just couldn't feel any sympathy for him over that, no matter how adorable Yoo Seung-ho is.

And the essential difference between him and Jung-woo in that ending, apart from the different ways they treat SY, is that JW took responsibility for his moment of weakness in leaving SY 14 years ago, while HJ never does - he sees himself as a victim in every way and chooses to hurt people who've been victimised even worse.

I don't think that he even saw the murder of Detective Kim or the framing of Su-yeon as things that were morally wrong, just as means to getting what he wanted (SY to stay with him). Just think of how different SY could have been if he hadn't stuffed that Coke can under Detective Kim's brakes and actually let her go back to her mother instead of dragging her off to a foreign country with Horrible Nurse?

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pogo,
I echo your sentiments.

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The scene, where HJW and LSY met the wheelchair bound KHJ, is pretty clever. The leaf, HJW handed over, conveyed forgiveness and HJW’s declaration of peace with KHJ while LSY showing her new social identity card signified her pride in being LSY and reminded us of her liberation from being (KHJ preferred) “a solitary mushroom in the dark” (an association I made when I saw the leaf and the snow) into being outside where she could see snow again. While conveying forgiveness, LSY showed restraint from being motherly as she used to behave in front of KHJ. This is appropriate to show us and KHJ that she had grown in maturity.

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yeah, it was an appropriate ending even if it felt like it needed more time to, idk, plan better.

Su-yeon and her mother had some great scenes, I feel like at least half my tears shed during this melo were from their reunion. I love that her mother was her first impetus to return to her old self and really start trying to move past what happened to her. And Mom is awesome too, I started off the drama completely judging her but ended it with her as one of my favourite characters.

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JoAnnnnnne. Hello Mrs First :-D

School 2013 is pretty much perfect in my book as well. Ticks all the boxes wonderfully.

Flower Boy Next Door is good, but it's not going to make it on my favourite dramas list. I just can't stand characters like Do Hwi (whatever her name is), I mean evil second leads should be interesting at least. But she's only irritating in predictable ways and thus boring. Plus, over-used tropes of falling onto each others lips for a kiss just don't work for me. I want more fresh stuff. That said, I do love Enrique and our leading lady fortunately has a backbone and is thus an interesting character (something I was worried about).

Gave up Alice a long time ago.

Goong I've never watched. The manga put me off it, so I don't think I'll ever even try.

Priceless (J) has been as good as ever. Okay, the most recent episode wasn't the most realistic, but it was still awesome.

Osozaki no Himawari got subbed for all the missing four episodes so I actually marathoned these last night. Was pretty happy with the way things turned out - it was pretty open-ended, but I think that suits the dorama well, given that it's all about showing us a slice of life and things of course don't end until life is over. I wouldn't mind a special though, especially to know more about how Jotaro and Kahori are going to manage their relationship. (Not a fan of long distance, but kudos to the producers that they let Kahori pursue her dream. And that she stood up to her professor.) Still don't care much for Kahori's sister, and still don't understand why they had to make Ayaka lead on two guys. Her backstory made sense with her coldness, but why did that need to include pretending she was interested in two guys? Junichi: Poor boy, felt so bad for him being put down by everyone. I really thought he might snap and go for suicide for a moment. He did cross a line by kissing his crush, but fortunately was able to let go of his first love in the end.

Trying to remember if I watched anythign else this week... rewatched a bit of Natsu no Koi (which is good but not amazing). Waiting for subs for the Lucky 7 special.

And currently debating between the bicycle and underground - it's been snowing in LONDON all day. (I need to go to a talk on Anime :-D And I'm working outdoors all day tomorrow, brrrrrr, it'll be so coooooold.)

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Aluaaaaaaaaa - I know, it's snowing! I was talking to (well emailing) a work friend in London and she was complaining and our vendor at Horsham had to close early because of the weather. I can be excited about snow there because, you know, it's not snow HERE. Which is a terrible terrible thing to be complained about bitterly when it happens. I hate dealing with it.

I want to punch Do Hwwwwwwwwwi in the mouth.

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Horsham PA? Or is there a Horsham, England. Because I live close to Horsham when I'm in PA.

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Actually, I have vendors at both Horshams but we only call England Horsham. This time I was talking about England.

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@John Thanks for thinking of me.

The helicopter crash was awful. I wasn't anywhere near there (but working from home that day) but the pictures were horrific.

Ending up cycling all the way today (18 km) but only on main roads (which I find more stressful b/c of traffic but they have been cleared of the snow at least). When I did go on a side street I went a-flying - well, I braked but instantly realised it wasn't working so the bike went a-flying and I just jumped off (no cars and I was going super slow anyhow).

But I'll probably use the underground tomorrow... we'll see...

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I'm excited about the snow because I love it (had to listen to my mom & sister telling me about 40 cm+ snow they had), the only problem I have is that London doesn't know how to handle adverse weather.

I would actually prefer to still cycle, but I don't trust them on clearing the roads (specially side streets where I prefer to cycle). I'm going to bike to the tube station (about 1 mile from my house) and then I'll decide whether to continue on the bike or not. My commute tomorrow 12 miles (one way), which is a lot of further so... I'll decide tomorrow.

But a friend that was going to visit me this weekend got stuck halfway and now they sent her train back north. :-(

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alua~

Do be careful out there on your bike .

I saw the news about the helicopter crash, I was worried about you.

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Ha! I was supposed to invigilate 2 exams in Bath today, and they cancelled both (students will have to take them after the second semester). To me this means getting some 60 pounds less then expected this month.:(

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@oftheshore

:-( That sucks.

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I love how everyone in Europe cycles all the time. It is amazing to me that the weather doesn't deter them. And people bike while in high heels and talking on their cells phones. Amazing!

When we were in Amsterdam, I was so looking forward to biking (like Ha Ji Won and Kim Myung-Min in Star Velo), but the traffic and expert skills of all the bikers made me too intimidated so I didn't do it. (Plus it rained the whole time I was there.) I'm in awe of you!

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alua - re: Goong, do give the drama a try! The manhwa is an OTT melo mess, with characters I just wanted to slap or shoot, but the drama does a DRASTIC rewrite of both Shin and Chae-gyung's characters and everyone else, and even though YEH and JJH were very green in their roles, they have fantastic chemistry as Shin and Chae-gyung.

It's not perfect as a drama, but it's very enjoyable - even the supporting cast get to be more than one-dimensional by the end of the drama, and I like that.

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I rewatched Goong in the past couple of weeks, too! I am so in love with Shin! And then I realized I was really mad a Chae-Kyung because she just never gave him a real chance! She kept bringing up his old romance and throwing it in his face all the time. That's why he was a jerk to you, woman! And the kisses from Shin were FANTASTIC. Kiss me, oppa!

And yes, Yul's necklace HAS TO GO. I want to like go back and photoshop it out of every episode. ugh!

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Yup, Joo Ji Hoon is not a shy boy when it comes to real kissing his co-stars. And that's why I luuuuuuuurve him so much!! And also that's why I was mad as all-get-out over Jin Se-yeon's casting for 'Five Fingers.' A real-life 11-year age difference is always going to be in the back of one's mind no matter how good your acting is. He tried soooo hard to get an emotion out of her, but it was an EPIC FAIL. Broke my little fangirl heart into leeetle pieces. *sob*

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OMG, yes!!! I've been in love with Ji-Hoon Oppa ever since he was Shin; I thought Shin was the best! I was just so disappointed with Five Fingers that I didn't even finish. I wanted Jin Se-Yeon's character to just go away.

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SO AGREED! But she did 'disappear' towards the end of the episodes, in that her part of the storyline just kinda fizzled out to a dull roar and she was hardly on-screen anymore.

Such lost opportunities for that girl. I would have been all *shove* "Get the hell out of my way, little missy. Let me show you how a REAL kiss is supposed to be!!" :P

Praying for a nice rom-com project for both he and Changwook-ssi for their next projects! *fingers crossed*

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They should actually have stuck with Eun-jung instead of dropping her because of that bullying scandal after saying they were going to keep her. At least she's not as drastically young as JSY and I could actually have hoped for some chemistry there, Ji Hoon oppa's other two drama leading ladies >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.

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to be fair to her, it's hard not to bring up an old romance when he himself told her why he liked Hyo-rin, actually asked her to marry him first and THEN was photographed kissing her by the tabloids. All while he doesn't actually come straight out and tell Chae-gyung how he feels about her, which I can't even blame him for too much because he's just not used to expressing emotion. And he does throw Yul in her face a lot, which is unfair because at least she doesn't see Yul the way he did Hyo-rin.

(and omo omo the KISSING!!!!!!!!!! Goong was the first kdrama I ever watched all the way through, and I nearly died when episode 23 came along - YEH and JJH absolutely ruined me for the normal dead fish kdrama kiss forever)

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Ah, Goong and its characters' questionable fashion choices! Shin's shirts and Chae Kyung's fashion-forward pants/skirt combination *ahem* along with some of the most unflattering skirts and dresses in the history of YEH are, for me, on par with Rain's horrendous outfits in Full House. Seriously, I could not believe he was a celebrity because he always looked like he dressed in the dark and bought some of the cheapest clothes available in the local supermarket. Oh Rain, I still love you though. :D Back to Hoong - it had one of my most favourite K-drama theme songs of all time. I use it as a lullaby sometimes.

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I am in love with Goong OST as well, Dancing Teddy always puts a smile on my face and Perhaps Love is just my favourite kdrama OST song of all time <3

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Goong had an amazing title track and background score, and Ice Pond is such a flawless piece of music, it's one of my all-time kdrama OST faves.

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Hmpf. Somehow my original post went missing somewhere in the Interwebs. But it's probably a good thing, since I was typing with a hangover from too many Bushmills shots last night after my presentation and trying not to let the tears welling up thinking about Shin again drip all over my keyboard... :(

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DId all go well? I'm assuming you found a venue and didn't end up giving it out in the street somewhere

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The venue situation was remedied at the last possible moment, but things did not go as planned... my co-presenter got stuck in The City and I ended up winging it by myself. Hence the need for many shots thereafter.

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I bet you did a bang up job though. You are a resourceful woman!

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We'll see when I get my hands on the review sheets from the attendees. The only Silver Lining about all this is that I don't have to worry about falling short on MCLE credits for the next two years! I FLIPPIN' RULE!!!

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Oh JoAnne... I'm watching the eugene drama... as I mentioned on my twitter it's like watching a trainwreck... I cannot stop... My body tries to walk away but my neck and head have a different idea... I just keep watching.
I hate the MIL with a passion that burns like a million suns... And I hate the fact that Eugene's character had to wait THREE YEARS... I'd have waited all of three MINUTES to walk away from that bat-crazy family.
I do love Eugene's character's father but I may be biased since I <3 <3 Jung Bo Seok ahjussi...

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I love Eugene's father too. And I can't stop watching, either, I think because it was not at all what I expected. I love a drama that has the "gotta see the next episode now!" type of endings.

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Goong is one that I haven't watched yet. Snow Queen was my first (who wouldn't be hooked after lucking into a Hyun Bin drama?). I've thought trying out Goong, but just haven't gotten there yet.

I'm not feeling Yawang right now - probably from watching the IRL presidential election too closely.

As far as IMY goes - I watched ep. 21 this afternoon and I'm still not entirely sure what to think about it. I mean, everything was wrapped up in a really pretty little bow, but I was left well...missing. It was almost TOO pretty. I get it, I guess...but I wanted a little more. Oh well - at least they didn't extend it even further.

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I agree. Yoochun and Seung-ho carried the drama and had me enjoying it a lot.

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I was just wondering since you finished I Miss You, and I was scared that I didn't watch carefully enough, but they did ever reveal who Secretary Yoon is? aka fake harry. it's killing me
I watched the finale today, and I cried so much for harry, not as much for the main couple though.

The drama had so many plot holes, but for some bizarre reason I stuck through.

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-spoiler-
Yoon's real name was Harry after he was adopted. He was an abused child that Jun (later Harry) made friends with. Jun killed his parents to get his friend away from them. It was the second and third murders of people by Jun as a child.

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Gone were the days when I could mash in viewing 5 kdrama titles in a week. I've long lost my raccoon/luggage eyes (although the raccoon is crawling back to its nest again) and have been trying to do drama viewing only on weekends. This week, the plan failed: I watched IMY and School on weekdays.

Not too happy with IMY's ending. No hate there, just the feeling of not having enough. It's probably what you mentioned - the loose ends that weren't tied in the end. The biggest mystery that I wanted to see resolved is how everything really started - how and why HTJ turn out to be inhuman and what really is the deal between him, his father and KHJ's mom. I don't want to see HTJ redeem himself - if not for HJW's persistent love for his father, he can rot for all I care. I just want an explanation why HTJ is HTJ. I have a suspicion that his father has something to do with it... and KHJ's craziness too. Clearly they're brothers - see how they zero in at one thing and wrap their lives around it. It must be the old man where these two got it from. I wonder what Grandpa was obsessed with.

I need help picturing the family tree clearly here. Is my understanding correct: HTJ and KHJ's mom are in-laws by HTJ's wife (KHJ's mom's sister?). At the same time KHJ's mom is HTJ's stepmom? So HTJ and KHJ are step-brothers, at the same time HTJ is KHJ's uncle thru his mom's sister? So KHJ and HJW are cousins/uncle-nephew? So what's about that HJW looking a lot like KHJ's mom, and KHJ's mom's sister still alive and well and living in the States? My head hurts. >_<

Anyway, I'm happy that HJW and LSY survived thru all the storms. And that the motley family stayed and even gained two new members. It's just that I feel like the end didn't surpass nor match the oomph of the beginning. I also noticed that I stopped crying when the kids' episodes were over. It may be because of the funny mixed up with the adults' scenes. Or maybe because I felt really bad for the kids to undergo such trauma at their age. Or maybe both.

It's best that they picked Yoo Seung Ho to do KHJ because, man! he delivered. His KHJ... I loved him, I hated him, he scared me, I worried for him, I wished he did a 180 without him going crazy. But then again, he was already broken at the onset, so ottoke? I could only watch as he held himself together only to fall apart because of hate and obsession.

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Hey JoAnne! Between blown-out internet and my best friend's wedding I'm late to this, but it's good to have a chance to talk over I Miss You - it's ended, and ended well, even if it's blindingly obvious that the flashbacks were there as filler because they probably didn't have enough footage, lol. And it was hard not to feel sorry for Harry even if most of me wanted him to die in a fire for what he pulled with Su-yeon.

I did have a feeling the ending would let Jung-woo and Su-yeon be together given the more hopeful tone of the latter half of the show, and it's nice to be right even if the ending is fanservicey (love the bridal clothesclip though), the flash-forward was SO much better-done than Nice Guy.

Also, I'd been hoping the child actors would make a return, and there they were! I really REALLY want to see Yeo Jin-gu and Kim So-hyun in another drama together now, one in which they get to stay with the roles for the full duration (and since they're so young, it could happen again when they're grown up, right?).

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Back then I had no idea that her kissing him back was JUST.NOT.DONE. And there was TONGUE.

I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! That kiss was epic even without that knowledge (I'd watched mainly jdramas up to that point and was used to dead-fish kisses, but had no idea about kdrama conventions) but once you know, it just becomes even more awesome. And I love that YEH and JJH have gone on to give kissing scenes their all in every project they've been in since.

I rewatched it a few months ago, and I like how many of the supporting characters seem to have hidden depths - Choi San Goong (Chae-gyung's tutor) is strict but feels protective and even a little affectionate towards her charge, Shin's mother seems cold and stuck for life to her royal role but her marital life kind of sucks and she does try to look out for her son, even the much-maligned second lead Hyo-rin becomes a lot more sympathetic by the end (rare for a female second lead)....love that.

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and re: Joo Ji Hoon, oppa can come kiss me anytime. I just hope his next project is less of a mess than Five Fingers, fingers crossed that his career returns to its pre-scandal hotness.

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Forgot this:

I guess I’ll get back to The Great Seer one of these days, too.

Music: I cannot stop playing Special Girl by Infinite H. Hoya, you naughty boy. Dong Woo, you cheeky thing. Come kiss Noona. Also enjoying I’m Sorry by CNBlue but the roses in the face, not gonna lie, that pissed me off. And don’t shoot me, but I couldn’t get into Jaejoong’s thing. I’ll try again because pretty. Maybe it was just that night I wasn’t in the mood for it. GD, you better get on the net and tell us that Mugler bit was a prank because if you were serious with that shit then you’ve let the hype go to your head a bit, baby. You should be taking a note from your hyung Psy and practicing that humble pose. I still love you, you’re still the prettiest, smartest, sexiest, most talented man-boy out there…but you disappointed me here. Still. Come give Noona a kiss. Two, maybe. Ok, three.

Also. In Block B, who is the blonde with the dreads in Nillili Mambo, and who is the blonde with the really deep voice in the red jacket?

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Hi joanne!
Too bad u didn't like his rock song mine. Did u listen to one kiss?
N yea, hoya n dongwoos leg dance n special girl was hella sexy. LoL
I haven't listen to GDs mugler but I heard its for a fashion show, not a song he promoted otherwise YG would have beenbehind it. I'm actually glad he can sing songs like this since SK most songs are rated pg. ^^

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I have been keeping up with the Great Seer, but it is starting to drag. I wish they would have a whole episode of just General Lee and Monk MooHak playing drinking games together.

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Hello, Queen JoAnne aka MamaJ! And hello everybody!

It's been a weird week. This afternoon, I finished a grant proposal, totally last minute. And I started that last minute, too. Why? Stupidity. And now, I am super tired (totally JoAnne's fault, btw). Today, I am experiencing everything in slo-mo (true!). And colors are brighter than usual. It's a bit weird, but nothing some drama watching can't fix, I guess. Apart from the shows that everybody else is watching (mainly CDDA & FBND), I have just started Joseon X Files (you may guess why) and I am quite intrigued by it.

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kakashi~

I enjoyed the Joseon X Files. They need a Season 2. I'll keep my fingers crossed on that.

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oh, that would be such a gift! what was your take on the ending?

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pillowhead~

My take is that we need a 2nd season so we can figure out what exactly did happen!

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CN BLUE FILMED IT IN LONDON <3
That just makes it a trazilllion times more amazing!!

And I love the Jaejoong song <3 He has never looked hotter than with his blue hair haha. And I love rock stuff. Seriously I love that all K pop stars are secretly Rock Stars :D

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I found that I like Jae Joong's song Mine... but that's probably because I think it reminds me of J-rock which I enjoy... Gackt, Miyavi, l'Arc en Ciel, Dir en Grey, X- Japan were my first loves so I hold a lot of fondness for music that sounds similar to it :P

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