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Heirs: Episode 2

The romance gets going lightning fast on this show, though the show itself is still rather slow to get started—it still feels like we’re in the introductory phase where everyone takes a turn in the spotlight to show us who they are. It doesn’t make for a fast-moving hour, but in general I like the world and the people, that is to say, I like looking in on the screwed up world, and I like the mystery behind their intricate relationships.

The couple takes center stage in this episode, and they have an easy rapport and a breezy chemistry that works for me. The tone of the show is far more contemplative and less rom-com-y than Secret Garden or A Gentleman’s Dignity, but I actually like that it feels a bit more like a throwback angsty teen flick than a comedy. So far, so good.

 
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Young Joon (Brown Eyed Soul) – “Driving Road” [ Download ]

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EPISODE 2 RECAP

After ditching our homeless, passport-less heroine Eun-sang in the street to wait for her sister alone, Tan turns his car around and shows up at her side. They stare at each other intently, and then he offers to take her to his place.

She asks, “Is your place really safer than here?” He thinks about it and says he doesn’t know if it’s safer for her, but it IS nicer. Why did that sound like a come-on?

She decides to chance it, and her jaw drops as soon as they enter his ginormous house. He plops down on the couch and she looks around for his family, but he says he lives alone. That freaks her out more than anything, and she starts speaking in half-jondae: “W-what are you? Are you a drug dealer? A gangster, perhaps?” Ha.

He agrees just to mess with her, inching towards her with every word. I love that she grabs her backpack like a shield, but he leans in close just to point out that the door she’s leaning on leads to her room. Cheeky.

She finally gets to sit down and process the crazy that happened today, and sighs to relive her sister’s betrayal. Hunger pangs soon overtake her angst though, and she realizes she hasn’t eaten all day.

She sneaks out to the kitchen, only to find canned food and sports drinks in the fridge (Who keeps cans in the fridge?) and eats straight out of cans in the dark. That’s just sad. Tan finds her stuffing her face guiltily, and she swears she only ate stuff that was past its expiration date, and slides over a five-dollar bill to pay for her meal.

He asks how she lives that she eats expired food, but doesn’t get an answer. He asks her name, and only gets a, “Thanks for letting me stay here for the night.” Tan: “That’s a long name.” He says that none of this is charity—it’s repayment, since his friend stole the bean powder meant for her sister.

Meanwhile, Big Bro President Won is preparing to head to the States for a business trip, and Secretary Yoon (Chan-young’s dad) tells him that President Choi (Young-do’s dad) called to suggest he stay at one of their hotels.

Won notes that he’s already playing nice with Jeguk ever since he got engaged to RS’s president (Rachel’s mom), and that stops Secretary Yoon in his tracks. Aw, is she an old flame? Won continues to be an ass to Secretary Yoon, who’s still loyal as ever to his father and doesn’t hesitate to show it.

We meet Dad for the first time as he chats pleasantly with his ex-wife (the second wife with no kids). Chairman Kim is in a wheelchair, and Madam Jung tells him to stop being nice—it won’t get her to remove herself from the family registry.

He chuckles and says he has no intention of ousting her; after all, she’s the one who brought Tan’s mother into this house. She points out that it was better than the alternative, with him hiding his affair outside of the house.

Meanwhile Tan’s mother Madam Han has her ear pressed to the door trying desperately to hear what they’re saying. Won catches her red-handed, which is clearly a normal sight around here. She just rolls her eyes and announces him at the door.

She tells Won that his mother is here (by which she means stepmother, technically), but Won bites back that his mother is not in this house. She rolls her eyes again: “Fine. Ajumma. The ajumma who raised you is here! And this ajumma is leaving now.”

He walks into the room, and Madam Jung feels the icy non-greeting from Won. Theirs was clearly not a warm relationship, but she still feels slighted, and she points out that she did raise him for ten years. He snarks back: “I’m sorry I only amounted to this after you raised me for ten years.”

Dad has to call a cease-fire, and then tells Won that he should take Tan with him to his business meeting in LA. Won chafes at the idea, but Dad makes a point of saying that it’s not his company yet. He’s taking Little Bro, and that’s that.

Madam Han hilariously yanks Madam Jung aside, and despite the fact that they’re rivals, they’re surprisingly comfortable and frank with one another. Madam Han wants to know about her upcoming meeting with Rachel’s mom, saying that it’s in-law business and she should be in the know.

Madam Jung puts her in her place: “Who’s your in-law? Tan is MY son, have you forgotten that?” OH. Well that’s news to me. Also, do they have the most complicated family registry or what?

Madam Han counters that Tan sure would be happy to find out that his mother gets treated this way, while Madam Jung spits back that being called madam for a few years has made her think she’s a wife in this family. “But as long as I’m alive, you are just my husband’s mistress.” Dayum.

As she holds back her tears, Tan writes: “Another woman’s bags, another woman’s house, another woman’s husband… a pitiful person who spends her whole life wanting others’ things. That person is…” And his phone rings with a call from Mom.

Eun-sang finishes the thought: “Mom?” She’s calling her own, of course, and her eyes fill with tears as she lies through her teeth about unni’s beautiful house with a green lawn and how tanned she is from the California sun (Mom answers with taps on the phone’s receiver).

Tan overhears the whole conversation as he stands at the door with a sandwich, and I do love the look in his eyes every time he inadvertently catches her at her most vulnerable moments.

He shoves the sandwich at her and wonders about the dollar sitting on the nightstand, which she says is for the long-distance call. He says that she sure spends her money freely, and then she adds the dream catcher as payment for the room.

She tells him it wards off bad dreams and only pretty dreams are supposed to come through the holes. Tan: “Does it not bring pretty women?” He hangs it over his door with a smile, and then watches from the backyard as Eun-sang barricades her door, and then proceeds to undress in plain sight. He nearly chokes on his sandwich and runs inside in a hurry.

She wakes up in the morning to the nicest view that money can buy, and Tan watches her, taken with her smile and just suspended there. I swear, if he keeps staring that intently, I might not make it to ten weeks.

She finds him on his way out to school, relieved that he’s not a drug dealer after all, and jumps to get her things packed so she can be on her way. But he throws out excuse after excuse why she can’t go now—her sister’s diner doesn’t open till later, there are no buses here—and suggests she come with him to school since she mentioned always wanting to see what kind of schools people go to here.

So they drive up the coast and she warns him that she’s going to stick her hands out of the car. He lets her be embarrassing for one minute, but then smiles to see her enjoying herself.

He goes to class while she sits outside taking in the scenery, and he steals glances at her out of the window. In the first non-soul-cringingly-embarrassing English scene in this drama, the professor talks about beautiful words in the English language, and says that a survey put “mother” at the top of the list. It makes Tan pause.

True to slacker form though, he doesn’t turn in his essay that’s due today, despite the fact that he wrote one. The professor’s pretty zen about the whole thing, wondering if maybe he wouldn’t find more purpose if he started to turn things in. Rather wise.

He heads out and finds Eun-sang elsewhere on campus, watching a pair of Korean girls put up flyers for a party. She notes with a wisp of jealousy that she was just looking at kids who had met good parents. He assures her those parties are lame anyway.

She thanks him for everything and says her goodbye, intending to go find her sister on her own. He lets her take about two steps before insisting he’d rather ditch his next class and go with her, and she’s geeky enough to wonder why anyone would want to skip math class. What.

There’s more bad news at the diner though, because unni quit her job and skipped town. Her ex-boyfriend shows up just as upset because she took his money too, and when he starts demanding it back from Eun-sang, Tan steps in to get violent.

But the ex has two halfwit goons who start chasing them, so Eun-sang grabs Tan’s wrist and starts running. This whole scene is ridiculous, but I do love how much he’s enjoying the handholding and running.

He gets another call from Rachel that he ignores yet again, leaving her fuming in her gilded hotel room. She gets a call two seconds later and snickers thinking it’s Tan crawling back to her… but it turns out to be Mom. Ha. Spiteful, I know, but I enjoyed that.

Mom assumes she’s with Tan and asks what he said about her engagement to Young-do’s dad, and insists that Rachel tell him—isn’t he best friends with Young-do? Rachel: “They’re not friends.”

Back in Seoul, Young-do arrives at Dad’s hotel on his new motorcycle and goes to work in the kitchen scrubbing dishes. We hear from a pair of chefs that he’s been doing this every vacation since junior high, an order from Dad to learn the hotel business from the ground up if he’s to inherit the company someday.

He does as told, except he won’t do it with a sunny attitude, and talks back to the manager like he already owns the place. He hears that the police chief is dining here, and Young-do points out that that seems like a duty much more suited to him than washing dishes.

The chief prosecutor is dining with his family, and son LEE HYO-SHIN (Kang Haneul) assures dad and grandpa that he’s preparing well for his college exams. God, it’s a stifling atmosphere, with a father, grandfather, and two uncles all telling him exactly how he should be planning for his future. Thirty seconds in this room tells us that failure is not an option in the Lee family.

Young-do enters the room to introduce himself, and checks the service just as his father would, earning praise for his good manners. But the way he pours Hyo-shin’s water with a menacing undertone seems like there’s plenty of bad blood between these two. He fills the glass to the brim and says pointedly that he looked thirsty.

A few minutes later, Hyo-shin is knocking on Young-do’s door (he seems to live in the hotel, which makes sense) and asks to use his bathroom, and goes straight to the toilet to throw up his lunch. Huh.

They’re not friendly, but they’re on pretty close (and antagonistic) terms, given that Young-do knows about the upchucking habit. He calls Hyo-shin “sunbae,” but talks down to him, and wonders why he came all the way up here to lose his lunch. Hyo-shin says that it’s better than running into his father in the bathroom.

Young-do thinks it weird that Hyo-shin would show him any weakness, while Hyo-shin counters that Young-do has shown more faults than he has. I… can’t tell what the hell is with you two, but I kinda like that I can’t tell.

Back in LA, Tan continues to ignore his phone while Eun-sang buys coffee. She moons over drinking her americano in America, needing at least one happy memory of being here. Tan balks at that, and asks if she really doesn’t have a single good memory.

He pauses expectantly for her to think of them, but when she changes the subject, he actually gets pissy with her. Hee.

She sees a group of friends taking pictures together, and it triggers an idea for how she’ll get back home. (I suppose I should’ve guessed that her sister stole her plane ticket money too, but who buys one-way tickets?) She messages her buddy Chan-young online, since she doesn’t have his phone number memorized.

Tan peers at the message and wonders if it’s her boyfriend, and she says he’s a “boy” and “friend.” He doesn’t see how she intends to get this guy’s help when she doesn’t even know where he is, and she cries defensively, “He’s in my heart!” Hahaha. He’s so jealous.

He drops her off at home with his keys while he takes the cab back to pick up his car, and on the way he starts snooping into her online life because she left the account open on his phone. That’s when he finally learns her name, and sees the kinds of messages she posts.

Among them are: “I wish Freddy and Jason would make up,” and “I don’t wanna go to work today. On a rainy day in spring, I should be watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre.” Ha.

He finds what he’s looking for—pictures of Chan-young—and there’s a hilarious split screen where he imagines them conversing and interjects annoyed asides. It’s priceless. But one post leaves him wide-eyed: “I hate it that Mom is having a hard time. Down with Jeguk Group.” The cop finds him and hands off Eun-sang’s passport.

Back in Seoul, Bo-na pouts at all her unanswered calls to boyfriend Chan-young, wondering if he’s already found a pretty American girl to date. Young-do watches her hysterics and flirts that she’s pretty when she’s clinging, which rankles his buddy who’s obviously sweet on her. I get the sense that Young-do purposely says the most hackle-raising thing he can think of in any situation, just for shits and giggles.

This time Chan-young finally answers her call, and she asks why he hasn’t commented on the selca she posted online. He says he turned all that off because he couldn’t study, but he checks on her insistence, and that’s when he sees Eun-sang’s message.

Eun-sang packs her bag and heads up the stairs to leave… where she runs into Rachel, just arriving. Gah. They recognize each other from the airport, but Rachel’s more interested to know who the hell she is and why she’s at her fiancé’s house.

Eun-sang thinks that’s weird—the owner of this house is in high school. Rachel says they were engaged at seventeen, and that still doesn’t explain what she’s doing here. It only gets worse when she learns that Eun-sang spent the night, and turns her bitch dial up to ten as she kicks her suitcase down the stairs and then orders her to open it so she can make sure she didn’t steal anything. Good lord.

Eun-sang suffers the indignity of opening up her bag to prove that she’s not a thief, and Rachel spills the contents out just to be extra obnoxious. She tells her to clean up her trash, and Eun-sang is left holding back her tears. She sits outside at a park with her bag, with nowhere to go.

Bo-na paces back and forth, wondering why there’s still no response to her selca after two hours. She’s hilarious. Young-do tells her to dump him and date his buddy Myung-soo instead, and she calls him crazy three times, deflating poor Myung-soo.

Young-do is all jokes until the mention of Tan, when Myung-soo says that Rachel went all the way to LA to see him. Bo-na seems to be on Young-do’s side of whatever this feud is, because she tells Myung-soo that she hates hearing Kim Tan’s name.

Eun-sang goes to book a ticket back to Seoul, but finds that she’s short on cash, as expected. She asks to reserve it anyway, but then realizes that she still doesn’t have her passport.

Tan comes back home and asks where Eun-sang went, and Rachel points out that it’s been half a year since they’ve seen each other, but that’s all he’s got to say? So then he tosses in a half-assed, “You’ve gotten prettier.”

He sighs to hear that she told Eun-sang that they were engaged, and when she asks why he didn’t come to the airport to greet her, he doesn’t even bother to open his eyes as he gives the excuses that it was too far and too hot. She asks point-blank why he agreed to this engagement in the first place, and he says matter-of-factly: “So that I don’t have to marry you later.” Ouch. Also, do you people do everything backwards?

Eun-sang rings the doorbell, and Tan yells at her for leaving without a word. She’s just here for the cop’s card so she can get her passport back, but before Tan can tell her that he has it, Rachel says she threw it out in the trash.

Eun-sang races to the trash bins, and Tan tells Rachel to butt out. She heads down to grab her purse when she hears Tan’s phone go off, and reads the message from Chan-young with his phone number. I want to point out to her that deleting that would just give Eun-sang more reason to lean on Tan for help, but I think self-foot-shooting is her style.

Tan comes out to find Eun-sang digging through the trash, and asks if she’s crying. She says she’s been trying not to cry, but no matter how hard she tries to escape her life, here she is, next to the trash all over again. She cries that there’s no twist to her story.

He apologizes and hands her the passport, when suddenly two NEW thugs show up looking for him. What in the what? Why does this keep happening?

There’s literally no explanation, since the only point is to give them another reason to hold hands and run. So they hold hands and run. (I’m sorry, did you just run from Malibu to Hollywood? Pwahaha.)

They duck into a movie theater to hide, and Eun-sang gets lost in the movie, but doesn’t understand the dialogue. Tan starts translating for her: “She says, ‘If I’m going to trust you, I need to know who you are.'”

And then he starts making up his own lines: “She says she met someone yesterday. Her name was Cha Eun-sang.” Eun-sang wonders how he found out her name.

Tan: “But now there’s something she’s curious about… Do I… maybe… like you?”

 
COMMENTS

It’s interesting how different Tan is with Eun-sang, and that he consciously has many faces: the heir and (outwardly) dutiful son, the party boy, the thoughtful writer, and the slacker who couldn’t care less. My favorite thing about him is that he’s actually too lazy to rebel properly—he admits so himself, and it’s evidenced by his engagement to Rachel, which is the path of least resistance. Do as you’re told, and keep your head down. There’s something nicely subdued about the character that keeps him interesting, because he represses his conflicts instead of acting out. The go-to chaebol archetypes get played in the other characters—Won, Young-do—so it’s really (really) great to have a hero who’s a shade more realistic, grayer in motivation, and a little lost.

The exiled prince metaphor works perfectly for this character, not just because the family is, as javabeans pointed out, set up like a carbon copy of Joseon royalty, but because it encapsulates the wasted potential in the hero—he could be great, a leader, a future king, but gets his wings clipped and caged because his existence poses a threat. The fact that we begin here, where he’s accepted his lot in life as the extraneous son who’s supposed to hide to survive, makes his arc a fascinating one. The two moms conflict isn’t even the usual birth secret, and I’m interested to know why they chose to make him the son of the de facto concubine rather than the queen—it’s playing chess with your children for the sake of the inheritance, and it’s at least strange enough that I find it interesting rather than just the same old. At least I hope the answer isn’t the same old.

Though two episodes of setup doesn’t feel as zippy as I would’ve liked, I do enjoy the way we get introduced to characters. There’s simmering animosity underlying every interaction that makes me curious about the backstory, but it’s nice to let that inform present attitudes without dropping The Past into our laps. With the exception of the main couple whose first meeting is onscreen, everyone else has a history we aren’t privy to, and I love feeling like we’re only hitting the tip of the iceberg with all the relationships. That kind of storytelling is engaging without gimmicks, and I think the show is strongest when it uses that.

On the flipside, then there’s the reaching for yet another excuse to get the couple running from thugs (because that’s the only way to ignite romance, apparently—sparks via mildly threatening surfer goons), and then I basically want to spork my eyes out. I mean, does the Candy really need to be digging in the literal trash to feel like trash? Is that necessary? We geddit. She’s poor.

That aside, I do think the couple has sparks—the lingering moments, the intense gazes—all of that is golden, and I really like them together. She’s pricklier than he is, which is great, but also not so down on herself and so doom and gloom that she can’t just enjoy a nice day like an eighteen-year old should. I can actually see how and why he’s taken with her, and frankly that’s not always a given with romance. Sometimes I watch sixteen episodes still wondering, And why do you two like each other again?

But he keeps seeing her at her worst, when she’s down on her luck and at her wit’s end, and there’s this fantastic silent empathy happening that I just love. The show is still finding its footing (and being outside of Seoul is most of that, I’d wager) but I like where we’re headed with the couple. Attraction happening this quickly means it leaves a lot more room for unexpected turns, and that has me excited for what’s to come.

 
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I know this is a long shot, but does anyone know the song in Heirs in ep 2 when they are driving in the car and PSH puts on the sunglasses then moves her hand through the wind? I cannot find anything about Heirs OST, and do not know how to find the song.

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Hong Ki's song is in youtube with subs...i'm loving it XD

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This one is not Hong-ki's song, but thanks for trying :)

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sorry, it seems you didn't understand of what kind of song she was looking for, she didn't talked about lee hong ki's song, she talked about this song...

http://youtu.be/hcX7r1Ie3Ig

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Is anyone having trouble opening the link to "Driving Road" by Young Joon? 4shared.com keeps telling me that the link is not valid ...

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somethings definitely wrong wit the link...
until GF fixes it, i've uploaded the song to my 4shared.
let me know if this link works :)

http://www.4shared.com/mp3/2RRRomqi/Young_Joon_-_Driving_Road.html

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Nope, it's not working still ):

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OKAY this one should work! (fingers crossedddd)
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/42txeX4v/1-01_Driving_Road__Feat__.html?

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in time like this, i always hoping that 'Sound Hound' understand korean.. sigh (T_T)

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heh sound hound only recognizes really popular korean songs, unfortunately~ i wonder if there's a korean equivalent to sound hound...?

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If you have an Android phone, try Music ID. It tends to work better than SoundCloud wth K-pop.

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Yeah sound hound didnt recognize it :( I am hoping they keep playing the song throughout the show, or the music Gods open another path for me to find the song. Either way I am in love with a song I cannot find.

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I find that I have more luck with Shazam.

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You can always just download the whole OST for the drama and listen to each of the songs until you find that one. All the songs used in the drama will be on the OST.

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Likely the song hasn't been officially released. The only OST song released so far is Hongki's. So you'll will likely have to wait and see since OSTs usually are released in parts while the drama is airing.

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Did you get to find out the song title?

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No not yet, but it was played in episode 3, so there is hope that it is part of the OST and I will find out someday!

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then maybe you are talking about this..

http://youtu.be/hcX7r1Ie3Ig

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maybe she's looking for this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnK8hsbo55E

I am desperately looking to the title of this song dream cather theme.. please email me back.

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It finally came out today, Serendipity by 2Young~

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Yay!

After such a long spell in dramaland, I've finally found my drama crack.

It's not perfect, but I'm happy to go for a joy ride while it lasts. :)

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Right? I'm going to hold this drama in front of me with a 10 foot poll. Try not to get to excited for episodes and keep my hopes kind of low but get really really happy when they succeed. That way if they don't I won't be to devastated. I've gone through drama blues too often not to do this!

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That's what I am saying! I don't even remember the last drama that made me eager to rush home from school/work to download in HD (and HD only) to watch.

Seriously, Lee Min Ho/Tan can melt my panties with his gaze at Eun Sang! Swoon!

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i havent started Heirs bc im still trying to get over Master Sun lol I loveeee that show n would rather trade in Heirs for a season 2 of MS lol, so i dont know if ya seen it but do! bc i came running to my computer every weds/thurs bc of it and Im still trying to get over it lol

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His gaze is definitely swoon worthy.
Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye chemistry is by no means explosive, but you've definitely got a bone to pick with if you think there's no chemistry there. There's something alright. That iiiiiittty bitty bit is there somewhere in those quiet moments.

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I absolutely agree. It's not explosive, but there's definitely something, and I say this as someone who was VERY wary of the pairing at first - this isn't Gu Family Book, where the main leads looked like buddies/oppa-dongsaeng all the way through.

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YES.

Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye together is just adoooorable. I love those quiet subtle moments between the two of them. It's so intimate.

I was thrilled when Park Shin Hye was casted as Lee Min Ho's leading lady after all the ones he's had in the past. I adore Park Shin Hye.

She and Lee Min Ho is dabaek. The way he looks at her is just. UGH.

To borrow Javabean's quote, "I swear, if he keeps staring that intently, I might not make it to ten weeks."

This might become BOF 2.0 for all we know, but I'll go down hanging on to this ship. lol

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So...much...staring...

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true...its not the explosive, spine-tingling, knee wobbling kind of chemistry.. and I actually think its more realistic that way...people who fall in love dont always have to immediately have to have that electrifying spark of attraction...

I love their quiet moments...LMH could just melt hearts with that stare.....it males me giggle.

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Haha, yeah I know the feeling. I really wanted this drama that I ran home for. But, at least we get cutie Minhyuk and Minho and Woo Bin and...

Last drama that caused me to run home...maybe...I Can Hear Your Voice or Nice Guy or Good Doctor. Yeah, those three.

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yeah good doctor was amazing...

I love joo won ang his....palli....palli...!

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Tan's constant gazing at Eun Sang reminds me of what I did back when I was 17 and I laid eyes on the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Looking back now it was a creepy thing to do but I didn't care back then. Every time Tan gives Eun that gaze I can't help but sing

"First love, first love, she was my first love"

The scenes are so cheesy but man it brings back memories.

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I forgot to mention, the guy who kept on calling out Lamar Odom in the class and Tan's Hogwarts joke killed me. I I honestly did not expect to hear this stuff, I was so taken offguard that I just burst out in to laughter in the middle of the train.

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Daemul,

Good to hear from you :-). I would like to touch on this you wrote: "The scenes are so cheesy but man it brings back memories." As you know, in Kdramas, and especially in the ones categorized as rom-com, we will have cheesy, that's expected, same in US movies and TV series.

I don't mind cheesy, AS LONG AS it is delivered with sincerity, feels organic and it is well acted. It also has to go well or make sense with what we know about the characters. So, my ex. for now would be Gu Family Book, the 1st two episodes. Choi Jin Hyuk (who plays Kim Won, LMH's brother in this drama) is a gumiho, who quickly falls in love with a mortal woman. Their story starts and kind of ends in 2 ep. I personally loved CJH in that role (and therefore I loved daddy gumiho) because I felt that CJH managed to make me believe that what WR was feeling and saying (WR is the daddy gumiho) was real. It felt and looked organic (to me) and I bought what he was selling. So, some of the lines were cheesy, however the way they were delivered and acted was believable, and they were congruent with what we were told about the characters, as we were getting to know them.

So I feel that cheesy can work, if well done (meaning written well, delivered well, acted well, directed well etc...). And by the way, I was not criticizing what you said, just making an observation. I hope it is OK that I did that.

You also responded to someone, saying that you don't like romance to be the be all and end all in a drama. Neither do I. I like romance (I don't mind it, but I don't always have to have it, personally), but like you (or what I read between the lines), I want more. Give me something to think about, something to chew on, something to ponder, besides being cute (which again I don't mind) and adorable. If the romance is all there is, then the plot is rather thin, if you ask me.

Coming back to the cheesy scenes, I think we react to them because we have experienced them or we will. And women/females tend to live vicariously through a character, a movie or a drama (it's our escapism). So cheesy scenes (and emotional scenes in general) can "talk" to us. There is a reason why some of us talk back to our computers, saying to a character, "I feel you," (meaning I feel your love for her, your hate, anger, compassion, etc...). I know I have done that (talking back to the computer screen during a scene), and it didn't always have to be about a love scene (I don't mean it sexually) or a scene about love. It could be a scene about anything, but the acting had to be good (I had to be able to feel it).

Thank you for explaining about Lamar Odom, that made sense. I also asked a friend, who said that he used to play well, but before the season was over, his statistics were not as good, so that could be the reason why his name was also the saddest name in the English language.

I think I remember the joke about Hogwarts. I will have to rewatch the scene as well. I think I took it as KT not really taking schoold seriously and not going to school, since I think Hogwarts is a school for wizards in Harry Potter, isn't it? So not a real school, just a place where they do magic (and learn about it)? I could be wrong as I am not a Harry Potter fan. I have never read a single book and I have seen scenes in some of the movies, because other people were watching it. So I am writing this, but as I said, I could be wrong. And then of course, I could google it, which I didn't think of doing.

It's really great conversing with you. I am enjoying it. I hope your weekend is going well :-).

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Ivoire,

Your observation was fine, don't worry about it. I agree that cheesy scenes are ok if they are organic and well acted, since they would be more believable and less likely to make me cringe. The problem is that many writers, producers, directors or whoever has control over those scenes, seem to purposefully add in the most cringe worthy moments into their drama's or movies without any thought whatsoever about the effect they will have. One of the most infamous examples of this is when the hands/legs/body part of the two romantically involved characters rub against each other and the characters just suddenly stop what they're doing and look as if they are thinking. "OMG he/she touched me, I'm in luvvvvvvv!". This sort of moment completely destroys a scene for me, because if it so OTT cheesy that it makes me groan. Even if the lines before were delivered well, stuff like this is just bad.

If stuff like this was removed forever and replaced with properly written and delivered romantic dialogue then the romance genre will have come a long way.

Yeah, you have probably guessed that I'm not the biggest fan of romance in drama's or movies, but it is unavoidable, even in full on action movies. As long as it's not the entire focus I don't mind it, since like in The Heirs it brings a smile to my face to watch it, but it does seem like something showrunners of drama's fall back on when they are running out of idea's so that they keep the female audience interested. I'm not sure about this, but I have heard that K-Drama's use live shooting? This would allow the showrunners to change stuff to please the audience, and with the audience overwhelmingly being female, you just know that "add more romance" will be at the top of the showrunners to-do list.

What I am liking about The Heirs, is that while ofcourse the romance will be an important subplot of the show, there is a promising premise developing aswell, with the concept of inheritance and what it means to different people. It does seem to be something limited to the guys though, except for maybe Rachel and what she will/will not inherit from her Mum.

Your friends explanation about Odom seems more accurate than mine, since the whole divorce thing is recent and I'm not sure when the episode was recorded.

I can't remember much about the Harry Potter thing either, I still haven't gone back to re-watch it but when I have time I will.

No problem and my weekend is going fine, except for there being no football(soccer) to watch on TV, but tis a minor problem, since it means for time for Korean Drama's :D and Dramabeans :P

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Hello Daemul,

I don't know if you will see this response, and I personally hope that you will. I saw that you responded yesterday (Sunday) early morning, and I have to say that my Sunday (and Monday) were filled to the brim with duties and activities. I have a friend who is coming back from out of town, and to welcome her back, I decided to cook for her (3 main dishes, one salad, 2 side dishes, and dessert). Needless to say, doing all that is quite time consumming (actually very time consumming), however, that is how I show people that I care and appreciate them, so I did it. My other roommate was all excited about the food, so then I HAD to really do it (she looked like a puppy, thinking and talking about trying these dishes she had never had, and she was sooo cute).
And Monday... Well, you know how Mondays are, don't you? :-). Needless to say, I was glad to see your long response.

OK, so your 1st paragraph brought out some observations in me. About this, "One of the most infamous examples of this is when the hands/legs/body part of the two romantically involved characters rub against each other and the characters just suddenly stop what they’re doing and look as if they are thinking. “OMG he/she touched me, I’m in luvvvvvvv!”
I know what you are talking about, as I remember those scenes in Kdramas. However, I don't read them and interpret them the way you do. There was such a scene in ep. 20 (I think) of GFB, which was well acted, btw.

So, with those scenes, a lot of the times, it is not as much as the characters thinking "I am in love" (though some might be, based on the context set-up prior to that scene), as much as it is both characters being or becoming aware of their physical attraction to each other, which introduces the thought of them lusting for one another (at some point), since we know that it will eventually come into play. So body parts are touched, and we are made to believe that the temperature is rising in the room (and one or both characters might be fanning themselves, etc...), their heart is beating faster, and they are thinking about what that possibly means.

That also means that they then (or also), have to think about what to do with what they are feeling, when physical touch happens, and that depends on the situation. Is one character only aware of the attraction at the moment, or are they both? Are they supposed to be conservative, or more progressive, when it comes to skinship? Where are they (physical location)? Alone? In someone's house, the office, a car etc...?

I actually understand those scenes, and in real life, we sometimes experience them as well. I mean that we can become aware of how attracted we are to someone, and not be sure of how to proceed, based on many things (some of which are listed above). Again, I am being long winded, however I hope that I am making sense. I think the problem for me (again), is when those scenes are not well acted, when you can see it coming and it is not well directed. Such a scene happened in GFB as well. KC (the male lead) was going to try to kiss the female lead (can't remember her name right now, YW, I think), and he leaned towards her, and he keeeeept leaaaaning in. It became very obvious that they were supposed to be interrupted by an outside force, but because their almost kiss lasted for so long, it lost its punch and what they were trying to convey (it was not convincing). The outside interruption eventually happened, and we had the awkward glances, clearing of the throat, etc... but the moment was not convincing. (I hope I made sense).
This is quite a common trope in Kdramas (as you know), and I don't mind it, if it is well done.

This, "If stuff like this was removed forever and replaced with properly written and delivered romantic dialogue then the romance genre will have come a long way." I am all for properly written and delivered romantic dialogue, IF they want to have romance (which is not always necessary, as we have agreed on).

You are not the biggest fan of romance, and I can understand that. Have you seen dramas like "the chaser?" It is a political one, well written. I am sure they are a few good ones like that . "The President" (KBS, 2010) was also a good political one, with some interesting twists and a really well acted drama. I simply loved it.

I do like however that like in Heirs, romance can bring a smile to your face. You do know that in Heirs however, we are gonna have some major romance, don't you? :-) I just hope that the other characters are well fleshed out, and that the conflicts are interesting, griping and not just surface conflicts. I guess we will find out, as we watch the drama.

Yes, Kdramas use live shooting, unfortunately. and I agree with the points you have made in that #, about romance being the producers and writer's fall back trope when they are struggling to fill in the episodes.

This, "there is a promising premise developing aswell, with the concept of inheritance and what it means to different people," I like, and I agree with. So, we could get to explore what it means to be an heir, and the price to pay when one is one. Do they have choices, or do they have some freedom? Do they stay in line, or do they rebel and chose to walk away, at the risk of losing everything? Etc... So many questions, let' s see what the writer does with those.

I think that the girls will have to deal with that question as well, by that I mean that they could. ECS is heir to poverty, yet she is rebelling at the beginning of the drama, trying to change her fate. How does being heir affect the girls? What does that mean for them, and to them? Will that be explored well, or will that be glossed over? Again, so many questions that could be explored.

This,"since it means for time for Korean Drama’s :-) and Dramabeans :-)" And we are glad to have you here (I know I am :-) ).

I hope your week started well...

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Daemul,
I am a girl, so please allow me to go "Awwwww..." at the story you shared about the girl you liked at 17. Thank you for sharing that.

2--I personally did not get the jokes. Do you think you can explain, please? (the two you talked about).

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Yeah Ivoire, no problem, and your welcome for the story :)

The first joke was about Lamar Odom, a famous basketball player who played in LA and who is currently married, well, is in the process of a divorce with Khloe Kardashian. So when the teacher asked what is the most beautiful English word in the world and Lamar's name was called out it was a reference to his hero status in LA, when his name was called out again when the teacher asked about the saddest English word in the world, I took it as a cheeky joke about his impending divorce from Khloe and his troubled family life.

The second joke I can't remember very well, but I think it was when PSH was asking LMH about his school and whether it was International and he sarcastically replied, "Yeah, I go to Hogwarts" or something to that effect. I'll have to look up the scene again because I have forgotten the context of it, but I remember thinking how witty it was at the time.

Anyway, I hope this helped you :)

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Sorry Daemul, my response to your post is here:
2.2.4.1.1 Ivoire October 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm (a little higher)

Does your screen name has anything to do with the Kdrama Daemul?

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Yeah, saw your message.

Yeah, that and also SKK Scandal. I personally think it's the most amazing nickname ever, so I have stolen it and taken it as my own. :P

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wow so quick! thanks GF!

I'm liking the chemistry of the 2 =). i hope it will continue till the end

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Finally! All I want to say to begin is

SHE WRIST GRABBED FIRST!!!

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I was skeptical from the first episode, but the second one has me hooked.

I LOVE that Tan is not a jerk rich boy and that Eun Sang isn't a completely helpless girl.

I also really like how speedy the romance is. Instead of waiting 20 episodes to see if they will finally admit their feelings for each other and this stupid back and forth nonsense, we lay it all out on the table and get to watch it unfold!

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I've my next crack drama! Yeah!

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I agree. As a guy I am not a fan of romance in general and I usually end up fast forwarding past romance-related scenes because they bore me to death with their super slow build up and OTT drama, a very common flaw in romance subplots. This straight and to the point romance is my cup of tea and makes the romance scenes actually watchable. For the first time in many years, I am not fast forwarding past romance-related scenes.

What's keeping me interested in the Drama is that I really want to know why so many of the characters hate or have a general dislike for each other. There seems to be some underlying issues between characters which haven't been unveiled as of yet and I look forward to seeing what they are.

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Hey Daemul!

I also feel like romance alone really doesn't justify a drama. I love a GOOD romance, but the dramas that exclude heaven and earth to focus on romance...seem sadly incomplete, to me.

I wonder if you saw Hagkyo 2013, and if so, what you thought of it?

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Hey Nathan

Yeah, I agree with you about Romance. I don't mind it being added into drama's, because it is a useful tool for building up the relationships between characters, I just don't want it to become the be all and end all.

No, I haven't seen Hagkyo 2013, but I've searched it and it sounds intresting. I'll check it out and see what I think of it.

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Hakgyo is just about the best K-Drama I have ever watched. I didn't know any of the actors, or the writers, but it just kept getting better and better....deeper and deeper. Characters you had never noticed kept coming out into the 3-dimensional, without the drama losing focus at all...everyone had a story, and none of them depended on romance. And though I'm not primarily an action fan, there was quite a bit of it.

I can't praise Hakgyo highly enough.

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Me too! I thought the first ep was lame beyond belief--just a few flashes of good--but this one is well on the way! I'm looking forward now, with hope. But not too much--expectations are the devil, and I don't want to jinx myself! Thank goodness for DB and all of y'all posting!

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Yeah, I am actually very much looking forward to the rest of this drama, as long as it keeps me laughing like episode 2 did.

"Lets break up"

Young-do + Myung-soo = Awesome

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It is so nice and so refreshing to have a guy share his thoughts with us. I hope that we will continue to read from you, Daemul.

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Yes, I loved that she grabbed his arm first, and I think Tan loved it more than we did lol. I also loved that she was visually offended when he pulled his hand from her grasp when noticed Rachel's call. They are both visibly falling for each other. I am not sure she realizes that she is falling right along with him. Or maybe she does, but that pesky problem with the fiancé, I am sure is on her mind.

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At least Eun Sang had a chance to hear about that "pesky problem with the fiance" at the airport exit. In other words, she knows that he wasn't in a rush to meet that doll.

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I agree, this is where we will get why it was so important for her to overhear that conversation at the airport. I think this will only cause Rachel to be a bitch to her because she knows she "knows".

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Good point.

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aahhhhhhhhhh the episode was great l love the way park shin hye acts!!!!!!!!!!!!! great work girlfriday and kaedjun

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yesterday i put about what actually javabeans thought..,
today,i'll put mine...
i think 2nd episode not even better than yesterday.
but everytime Kim Woo Bin and Kim Ji Won appears on screen..
It make me wants more...their acting and characters really attractive.
KWB<3

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I think that everyone is entitle to their opinions but those 2 that you mention are the same old characters worst than the classical Cinderella. I also do not get why they are comparing Rachael to Blair. I saw Gossip Girl and Blair was a very strong, complex and with a lot of depth character. All I see in Rachael is the classic Witch of the story... with Blair she was nice, she was evil, she plotted she was loyal she cared and did not throw tantrums hers were fully thought out plots! now as KWB I think he is doing better than Rachael true he has the evil rich guy down to a pat but I think Chuck Bass omg! Chuck Bass was a player, someone that could seduce any girl and could also put anybody down with so much class I am only seeing anger on KWB so I won't say anymore

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thanks thanks thanks
And OMG
been waiting for ep2 recap even though I already finished watching it with Subs. God thank you so much for this blog I can voice out this explosive thoughts I have.
First of all, Lee MinHo looking sorta falling in love is the best part of this episode. Already we have a proposal and its only episode 2, the only thing I remember in this episode. well actually I don't know if its admission per se since the subs I watched sorta weird cause their have questions marks and interchanging spanish-english sub at the end. Made me a lot confused but still, I like a guy who doesn't beat a round the bush. Just throws me off my rocks. I love it. *squeal* aaahhhhh...

I remember another thing/scene, the cliche glance-stare of the leads which was just so awkward for me to watch. I cringe at the glancing-staring. Aiissshhhh

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Lee Min Ho can't do comedy. I don't think he knows when he says things that are supposed to be funny. But this episode felt better than the last one but very predictable and slow. It is a really very ordinary show. But it looks really great though. I still like Woo Bin way more than Lee Min Ho. I think he can deliver his lines a little better than Lee Min Ho. Lee Min Ho does not look like he is enjoying himself.

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agree with you
Lee Min Ho need to back to his old types...
the way he's deliver his lines pretty awkward..

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The only thing he has done so far is stare intently. And PSH too. I know they are supposed to mean something (compassion, caring, understanding, meh) but I'm not feeling anything. I did like to see them running around, however nonsensical it was. Much better than the silent looks.

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Is it wierd for me to think this? But for some reason, I kept thinking how Lee Jong Suk could have delivered those lines and how he would have acted. Even in my imagination, Lee Jong Suk did better that Lee Min Ho. Please feel free to delete if I am not supposed to say this.

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I'm just hoping Lee Min-ho and Kim Woo-bin don't end up having a bromance that makes Lee Jong-suk jealous. :D

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You're actually not the first person I've seen comment that they would have liked LJS to taken on Kim Tan's role. I wonder what is prompting people to make this particular comparison. Much as I love Jong Suk though, I don't think he's ready to lead a big-name production like this one. His star power's not quite as strong as LMH's, though hopefully that will be changing in a year or so.

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Well, LMH had even less star power than LJS back when he did Boys Before Flowers and that was a pretty big production. Just an observation, not fangirling for LJS although I like him.

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To Mina: Really? I thought I was just being weird... But I understand what you are saying though. Sigh. I really like Lee Min Ho but he is not all there in this one... *exasperated with myself*

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@mina
put aside about LJS..Honestly.,LMH acting level right now is the same as idol-actor..

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I think Mina means in terms of fame, not necessarily acting abilities. LMH is definitely the most famous one of the 2. I think the comparisons may be coming because LJS has been showing up everywhere recently- dramas, films, CFs, everything- and is the "it" guy of the moment, whereas LMH has been doing other things like recording and fan tours and not as active in dramaland. JS looks more like a high school student and can act, so the comparisons make sense to me.

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Argh... I really hate to say this. I don't really think LMH is doing a good job. I want him to do well because I like him but he just looks so uninterested.

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I like it that LMH got this role but the LJS alternative did played in my mind.. and i thought it was just me came up with this.

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With the way LMH's character is presented in the first 2 episodes, I think it's more of the writing and directing shortcomings than the actor's fault. I'm indifferent to LMH, only seeing him in City Hunter and snippets of Faith and BOF, but I think he's more capable of what we have seen here.

As much as I love watching Lee Jong Suk in big productions, it's a good thing that he's not in this drama whew

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Yeah, you notice it , too? I think , too,LMH is not convincing enough. I think there is a problem with his face, he sort of lost it. Not in terms of becoming ashamed, but the face as a part of his body. That face made him unique and original. Ther is a subtle change in his face that makes him look more standard ( that's why you think an actor with a standard looks could make the role, too). I don't know if it is a make up ,or age or a jaw correction?
LMH used to have a square jaw which made him look extremely manly and exuding masculine feromones. Now his face is narrower, softer and his lower part is not moving enough. And those red lips! He was much better with pale lips. When I first saw him in BOF and PT I thought : what a huge leverage is this face to an actor! Even if you convey the emotions of the role in a wooden way, the viewr can get distracted by the subtle and multiple angles of your face, AND if you are a good aactor then it is da bomb. And I analized : what makes this face look so great? Apart from vivid eyes it was definitely his jaw and mouth. Now I just don't find those angles anymore.They are vanished.
Or maybe it is lack of chemistry between him and PSH. I mean, she is OK, she is pretty good, even if I don't like her type, I must say ,she made the scene in the car in a way I started to like her. It is something with him.

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There is definitely something different about LMH's jaw, favoree. I thought I was the only one who noticed bc no one else seems to be saying anything about it. I had just seen City Hunter (this was just earlier this summer) then saw some pics of him for his fan tour and there was such a huge change! I don't know if it's just how his face is aging or if he had something done, but something seems different.

I actually think he's playing the role well. The thing is, his character is supposed to be almost completely disinterested, and so if he's coming off as disinterested that's a good thing. I look at it that his character is sorta just sleepwalking through life, so we'll have to wait till he awakens as the drama progresses to get more passion and oomph.

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We've all seen his capabilities in BOF but perhaps he looks "uninterested" because he's trying to tap into the role of kim tan who is supposed to be super lazy to do anything. Hence, not your typical arrogant outlandish chaebol.
I can totally see how people might think he isn't really doing much with his acting but kim tan to me is so real.
Like your average joe. It's sort of like a breath of air for me.
He seems like a typical college student (aside from all the money he has) that you can definitely get to know.
I like that.

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I agree... I like this, everyday boy type LMH is bringing to the table too. He doesn't need to be an overly hero type as the character isnot and having a chaebol heir who actually shows heart from the beginning instead of being "changed" by the Candy girl later on is what made me think that maybe this drama might not be an eye-candied flop.

Things could go wrong of course, but after this episode I have allowed myself to hope

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@ilikemangoes, DITTO ! you verbalised all that I wanted to say. like those honest comments.

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I totally agree with that!! love the fact that he is just average!! call him uninterested, boring..but that is what is character is compared to the rich mean kid that we all love to hate :D

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I guess others want to be the writers and directors of this drama, because clearly he can only be the character he is supposed to be. He is not GJP from BOF, he is Kim Tan from Heirs, and they are 2 different people. He is supposed to be lazy, not feeling much, and not caring much, as instructed by his hyung. But we already see much of that changing already, with him feeling something for Eun Sang.

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Second that! Probably we still looking at LMH as 'emotional GJP' who showed his expressions right away or as City Hunter's strong willed and driven adult...but here he is an average teenager with a -could care less- attitude who happened to be korean chaebol. He lives in cali, away from all those ppl at korean who knows him, away from his glamorous environment. He is lonely and kinda feel detached from the world he lives in. Still try to fit in..esp..when he is still an illegitimate child..so it kinda make sense to me. I am glad he is not overacted here.

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I agree with you. I don't see the flaws in LMH's acting that keep getting pointed out above. I see him playing the type of character he was assigned, and doing it very well.

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Well said.

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true...true....kim tan is made to look like he is disinterested in life....after all he was told not to care....

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But I am not getting the uninterested vibe either. His character is confusing. Like, Lee Jong Suk's character in School 2013 was supposed to be uninterested in everything at the beginning and I could feel it. He was just...existing. But he made you care about him from the beginning. Tan is supposed to be lazy and uninterested too but he kind of is not. He is not partying it up in LA, he likes to write, he goes to school and pays attention. I don't know. I don't think he is terrible, it's just that I don't get what I'm supposed to be feeling from him.

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Everything we know about Kim Tan from epi 1 and some epi 2 is not the real him. He is only following the instructions of his brother, they aren't things he WANTS to do. Therefore we don't even really know this character yet, because he is not even himself.

My point is, he is currently living in a world he doesn't want to be. This is shown by his choice of friends (he isn't even interested in the girls, and he doesn't really seem to genuinely like his friend, and probably thinks he is stupid). His disinterest in his fiancé, because she wasn't his choice. His avoiding his mother, because I think he some what blames her for his banishment. Because she covets what doesn't belong to her, he is forced into banishment.

He might show up for school, but he isn't turning in his work, so that says a lot without having to say a word. We also see this throughout this character. He is showing up but he isn't turning in his work. He is just there.

Then here comes Eun Sang, the first thing that has peaked his interest in these 3 years. Therefore we are seeing someone who was going through the motions, finally care about something.

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That contradicts what we know, though. I may be mistaken but I thought he did not want to turn in that particular homework because it was about his mom. From what he has said he is at least trying to be a good student because it's his way to NOT do what his brother told him to. I agree that his character is confusing and the acting is not helping us understand him better but I also agree that he may get much better and interesting once his true self comes to the surface. We'll have to wait and see.

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@TAN-SU wait are we even watching the same show? We don't even know what the assignment is about. He wrote down the word mother only because it struck a chord with him, because it is supposed to be the most beautiful word in the world. We don't even know if the assignment is about that.

The teacher even said he would find more purpose if he turned things in. Which indicates he doesn't normally turn things in, and this wasn't the first day.

When did they say he was a good student? We do not know that. All we know is that he likes to write, because it causes him to think, SOMETHING HE ISN'T ALLOWED TO DO, as instructed by his brother, and it is kind of his form of rebellion. He is always writing. He writes about his brother and the rest of his family etc. We know he is not a good student because he doesn't turn his work in as usual, and he ditches his math class which he hates. But his brother also told him not to excel so he is just following orders.

My question is, how are we supposed to have these concrete opinions about the show, when we don't even know what is going on in the show? If we are not paying attention to the details, do we really know the drama we are watching?

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The day before he was writing the essay about the mom when she called. We heard it in voiceover. When ES sister asked him what he was writing at the restaurant he said homework. She says he doesn't seem like the type to do homework and he says it's his form of rebelling, so he is trying because his brother told him NOT to. Granted, I have to read subtitles so maybe stuff gets lost in translation.

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I also got the impression that he didn't want to turn in the homework because it was about his mother. He was writing an essay about her the night before and they were discussing the word mother in class, so it doesn't seem like a far fetched conclusion to me. I don't know if the professor referred to a specfic homework or homeworks in general because I don't understand Korean but I thought he was talking about this one since he knew Tan had done the homework.

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Haha I just realized that scene is actually in English. Duh. Then I re-watched and the professor says "turn it in sometime". He didn't say turn things in. It could refer to one or more, I don't know. It doesn't indicate that he doesn't normally turns things in. Maybe you too should pay more attention to the details. Also, Tan-Su said that it seems he is trying to be a good student, he/she didn't say that it was said in the show that he was a good student.
We get it. You think LMH is doing a great job. You have gone through the whole thread defending the show. That's alright, I don't think anyone here hates you for that. We can all have different opinions and you are probably not going to change the ones that are not finding him endearing. Only he can do that. I say let's all have fun by praising -or not- the show. You don't need to go after everyone who is not so into this as you are. Ok, I'm out for good. Or until next week :)

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When ES's sister asked what he was writing, he said homework. At that point he was writing about his brother, not his mother. So WE do not know what the homework in this class is about. He says writing is his form of rebellion not homework per say. Which leads to him not turning his assignment in (whatever that assignment might be). He was doing "homework" because he likes to write, not because he intended to turn it in. Which is why he said to the teacher. "It wasn't meant for turning in". He clearly could be a good student if he wanted to, especially in that particular class. But he clearly doesn't want to, he has big brother's orders to follow.

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I too agree he is playing the character as he is meant to be. As girlfriday pointed out he has already had his wings clipped and been caged. Therefore he has had years of keeping his emotions locked down with very little expression. I think he is doing a good job of portraying that. I think as he has more exposure to someone outside his wealth sphere he will begin to awaken and emote more.

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I think those of you that are saying LMH is not convincing character must have smoked the same stuff that the blonde surfer did! I actually think that he is portraying the character with so much emotion and intensity that I can truly feel it! and I also like Lee Jon Suk but I do not think he can portray KT and deliver it as LMH I think that LMH is doing it very natural with him acting doesn't look like acting it looks like natural!!!!

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@Pororo, LMAO, so you want to accuse me of going after everyone who doesn't think LMH is doing a good job. Other than this post replying to @TAN-SU, who have I replied to that doesn't like LMH's acting? I'll wait... If that's the case, I am no different than you who seems to want to do the opposite, which is to express to everyone who would listen that he is not acting well. I don't care if anyone here hates me for my opinion. This is the internet not the real world.

I don't know what subs you are watching, but the subs I watched, and girlfriday's translations are almost identical. "The professor’s pretty zen about the whole thing, wondering if maybe he wouldn’t find more purpose if he started to turn things in". The teacher did not say turn it in some time. The teacher asked if he wouldn't find more purpose if started to turn thing in. That obviously means he doesn't. So who needs to pay attention?

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Hmm let's see. There's Tan-Su, you also replied to Cheryl who isn't feeling the chemistry explaining how Tan is being awesome, you replied to Dody who doesn't like the english with a "there was barely any English here. Like, LOL." and you are calling those who do not like LMH transparent elsewhere. Just off the top of my head. I have only replied to those who have mentioned that they are not impressed with LMH because I agree with them. I have not tried to argue with anyone who is liking him, not once. Well yes, with you. But I haven't told you you are wrong for thinking he is doing a good job. So no, I don't think I am doing the same thing as you. I am perfectly happy with people liking or disliking anything they want. Diversity keeps things interesting.

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LoveIt, you said "The teacher did not say turn it in some time. The teacher asked if he wouldn’t find more purpose if started to turn thing in. That obviously means he doesn’t. So who needs to pay attention?"

BUT, the professor does say find more purpose if you turn it in sometime. It's around the 25-26 minute mark. He does not say if he started to turn things in. You can verify for yourself since he says it in English. No subtitles needed here.

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@Pororo, wait so you are watching my every post, and you had so much time on your hand, to go back to see everyone I agreed with? I am not even going back to see who I replied to. The most important question is, did I reply to your post? Well let me answer that for you, no I didn't. You replied to me. The only reason I replied to TAN-SU, was because there was a discrepancy in something she said. She claimed he was a good student, and that the assignment was about his mom. I disagreed with that.

Me replying that there was barely any English, has what to do with LMH? It is a FACT that there was barely any English in this episode. So what if I said that? What is that to you? Yes I said it was transparent, to someone in agreement with something they said. Like I said, I was not arguing with anyone who doesn't like LMH's portrayal. Yet here you are claiming that I am arguing with people who doesn't like his portrayal, but here you are arguing with me in this continued back and forth, when I didn't even say a peep to you. If diversity keeps things interesting then you could have skipped past my font, but you chose to have a war of words with me.

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@TAN-SU, To be exact it the teacher said "Don't you think you might find a new purpose if you turn it in? some time?" I was just going by girlfriday's post. Any way I did go back and listen to it, since we are having this exchange of words and he indeed said some time? That some time, could him turning things in some of the times, or this particular assignment, some time later. I don't know of any teacher who would allow a student to turn a particular assignment in at a later date. However there were some stills that showed Tan in what seems to be the teacher's office talking. So, he could have decided to turn this particular assignment in, or the teacher could be talking to him about something else. We don't know, we will have to wait and see.

I know the assignment wasn't just about his mom though, because in the diner he was writing about his brother. So maybe the assignment was about his family. Anyway, no really good student is going to decide to not turn in assignments, and they are not going to skip class just because. He also said that he likes to write, not that he was a good student.

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@LoveIt
I do have a lot of time in my hands since I am on bed rest for the next 3 months. My husband works so I am home all day hanging out in forums, there's not much you can do while on bed rest. You asked me where else had you argued with someone who doesn't like LMH and since I've got loads of time I looked and gave you an answer. The "find" function comes in handy for this. Take it or leave it. I replied to you because you went off on Tan-Su with capital letters and all and telling him/her to pay attention to detail when I thought you were the one not paying attention. Tan-Su made a subjective comment on what he/she thought was going on, even saying that he/she was probably mistaken and you tried to school him/her. Furthermore, this was all in a subthread started by someone who I agreed with. Had this been a LMH/Heirs praising thread then I would have skipped it like I usually do.
As for the English, even if there was any English in this episode the person who did not like it had a right to express it. And most of the English lines were delivered by LMH so it has everything to do with him. Maybe the poster didn't like the few lines that were said. You had to LOL at that. Why? Because it criticizes the show?
Anyways, I really don't want to offend you or make you mad but it does seem that you are intent on changing people's mind on the character and the show. I really am happy that you are enjoying this show, nothing makes me giddier than finding a crack drama. We can agree to disagree and continue enjoying the show even if for completely different reasons. I am calling a cease-fire on my war of words with you. I hope you choose to respect other's right to not like what you do from now on. There's still plenty of time for us to end up loving the show but it should come organically. Have a good weekend!

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I do think we'd better not judge LMH's acting too harshly yet, because his character really doesn't give him a chance for much--yet. What his character DOES have is a LOT of room for development--and a lot of opportunities story-wise, as well. Exiled as he is, with no family to love him, no purpose for living, no interest in his girlfriend, told to "play" (playing can be one of the most depressing things on earth) there isn't much in him....yet. Except an obvious human compassion.

I'm VERY hopeful that his character will be extremely interesting, even if it doesn't start out as strong as many of his other roles.

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he does :)

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I think that production made him that way ( his face ) Because he need to look lke a 18 year old..So, they made him look less manly and more boyish kind..I see it that way...

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I totally agree with your comments.

For those that don't agree, let's try to reserve judgment on LMH's acting abilities for when they're back in Korea. The scenes in California aren't the best -- the overacting, the stereotypical goons, the bad English, etc. I think once we get back to scenes based in Korea, where everything is familiar again -- to the leads, the writer, the director -- LMH AND PSH will both have an opportunity to really shine.

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I agree with you. and with seersucker that he's playing the role of apathetic youth just right. After all, that is what Kim Tan is, apathetic. Although i must say that yes, his face has changed. He seems to have grown thinner or something. I dunno exactly, haven't figured it out yet.

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Me too. I kinda like Woo Bin's Young-Do better. Not really sure why. To put it simply to me Tan is like a simple meal, tastes okay but that's about it. Whereas Young-Do is like a dish with mind blowing taste, an acquired taste, you might not quite like or you love it but it's definitely something for your tastebuds even if it doesn't fill your stomach.
Then again if Tan loses a bit of his slacker attitude and be more proactive he could be very well be the best 'meal' ever, the ingredients are there, I do like that he's not snobby or mean towards Eun-Chang.
On that note it could also be argued that Young-Do has a potential to grow to be better too, he does not scream evil to me. He's kinda mean (I say kinda because bullying aside he's pretty nice with his two friends - not the two minions in ep1) but not totally evil.

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I like won bin's performance very much.
His character, not so much. Douche to the extreme.

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Woobie is doing a good job here. I'm not exactly excited for more episodes, though. Maybe when they move back to Korea.

I know it'll be the thing to hate on Rachel, but, she can't see her dad for some reason, her mum threatens her re inheritance rather than actually parenting, her step brother is so far after her (though they'll join forces later probably( and her fiancé, at an age when she might still think romantically about this business deal, couldn't care less.

I don't blame her for being upset, and I DO BLAME Tan for not properly greeting her and seeing her or even at bare minimum, texting back to say he's got a houseguest, this is the situation. It's all not that hard to do or say. And yet without these courtesies, he created all this angst.

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I agree. I do feel sorry for Rachel, however much of a jerk she may be. Really, what is going well for her in the world?Even Eun Sang has Oma...!

I hope the drama sympathizes with her (Rachel) just a little bit, and doesn't turn her into the Evil Factor. No one really is. There's Good and Evil battling in everyone...no one personifies either one, and everyone is worth loving for whatever small amount of good might yet be found in them. I wonder if this writer knows that...

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Young Do is the typical Rich arrogant guy who likes to bully others and exert his power! there is no depth in such a character yes he is doing great with the evil acting kudos for noticing that! but Do Not call LMH as a simple meal I think you need to check you glasses.. being nice to his rich friends does not make him nicer he is being taught to be good with other rich people so that doesn't count... I would rather have a real, intense, full of character appeal KT a billion times than same old evil rich guy YD.

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Yep. Young Do is pretty much 2D so far--plenty of potential to come out into 3D, but it's not out yet.

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LMH is trying to get into the Tan character, who is less than an enthusiastic soul. He is a cocoon-like character who is still kind of asleep, dwelling on who he is and how he wants to live.

I disagree that he doesn't know how to deliver comic lines. I laughed plenty of times when he said some funny lines in Ep 2. LJS is a good, growing actor. So is LMH.

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Wonderfully said.

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Second that.

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i agree with you there. i am extremely happy with his acting.

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"Lee Min Ho does not look like he is enjoying himself."

That make sense because he said that he was too lazy to do something. an attitude like that who will enjoy what he is doing. If you are noticing that it means he acted well.

LMH and WB have different characteristics so they must show different acting, I think LMH will also act like WB if he had the same character as him, but they are opposite. In fact he had done that already and did his best (BOF) I think better that WB right now.

Just my thought!

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Also, it looks like WB in Heirs got LMH's evil-spoiled-bully BOF character. Interesting to see what he does with it.

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oh honey, it looks like the LMH fangirls came after you...

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Should I say that Lee Min Ho trolls came after her then?

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thank for your recap.
and after 2 episodes aired..,
the only good things come from Heirs was Kim Woo Bin stole the show.
his gaze.,expresssion.,body gesture.,and lines...
i just wish he's comeback next year as the main lead.
he's more then better.

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agree with everything. kim woo bin is doing great. his expressions gives that extra chill after delivering his lines, making normal conversations seem like oration from satan himself. muahaha!

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What do you think about Kim Ji Won?
bcoz i think as a 2nd lead she already make a job.
but well, KWB acting make 2nd lead syndrome overflowing again..hahaha.

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personally, I don't know much about the actress kim ji won, but her character his your regular drama bitch. I mean that throwing your suitcase and clothes thing, being mean to a girl who is a potential threat to her with her fiance. nothing new there.

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I was disappointed in that, too. I hope the writer is not going to treat her like that all the way.

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Does anyone else wonder what's up with Tan/Young-Do friendship(or is it non-friendship) ? I wonder if there's a story there something that broke up a close friendship?
And can anybody tell me what's up with the bean powder? What do koreans do with it? I know it is meant to be eaten but how? Turn into a paste and boil like rice cake? Cook with water and sugar to make a cold dessert? Seriously I wonder why mom made it - as if it's a basic for a korean to have in the kitchen.

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my theory is that Young-do was in love with Rachel before she got engaged to Tan

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I read somewhere that Young-do broke his friendship with Tan when he found out that he was mistress's child. Makes Young-do the bastard really but I wonder if he regrets it... The fact that I am curious about Young-do's meaness makes me think there is something he regrets. I wonder if it has anything to do with Rachel.

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What I mean is, I don't think it has anything to do with Rachel.

Tan comes back to Korea motivated because of his interest in the girl. I am sure there are other things that will motivate him too and we don't really know what they are yet.

It is also possible that Young-do gets to know the girl because of the girl he is friends with, who is in love the guy who is in friends with our heroine. I am sure it amuses him to learn Tan likes the girl and for some reason Young-do wants to exploit that.

I am hoping all this is wrong and I am very pleasantly and very welcomingly suprised...

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God I hope not. I could maybe forgive his initial interest sparking from Tan's interest but not if he's out to mess with her just for shit and giggles that would just be too cruel. I do hope that if he had ulterior motives he ends up liking her for real. Eun-Chang is too pathetic atm, so I think that Young-Do who seems to have more fight in him would be better for her than Tan who backs down too easily.
Then again I hope Young-Do won't suffer from 2nd lead ailments that range from wrong timing to heroine just 100% in love with the lead guy and have no feelings for him whatsoever unless he's in it for shit and giggles.

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Oh Wow. Thank you for that link. I did not know.

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thanks for enlightening..

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Yeah, thanks for the link. I love this bit, comparing Kang Min Hyuk and Jung Yong Hwa: "At least his face moves and he is capable of more than one expression that looks constipated." Ha. I like Min Hyuk's character. Would have been nice if he were the third in the triangle.

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The bean power is actually mi-soo-ga-ru, or mi-soo powder, which is not simple bean powder. It's more like a mixture of many different kinds of grain powder which is mixed with water or milk and eaten, kind of like Korean cereal. They should not have translated it as bean powder.

This was probably the evil sister's favorite food so mom made it and had Eun Sang take it to the sister, along with the money.

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Thank you for that info. How did you know? You could tell, just by looking at it (looking at the powder)?

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No, the characters call it mi-soo-ga-ru in the drama. They would have said kong-ga-ru if it was bean powder.

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Oh I see, PPasun. Thank you! I personally like info of this kind being shared with us, since I am not Korean, and I do not speak the language, nor do I understand it (that is besides the few words and expressions I have learned so far,watching Kdramas).
Please keep those tit bits of info coming, if you don't mind. Interesting that the recaps referred to it as bean powder as well, and didn't say otherwise.

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gotta agree with you! it’s my first time watching Woo-bin in a drama and I think he really does a good job, great acting. I really love how he portrays his character. he makes it interesting and I think he's the right cast for Young-do

but then I’m kind of wondering, if you guys have to rate Heirs based on these past two episodes using a scale which has the word "BAD" on one end, and "GOOD" on the other end, what's the tendency would be like? More to the "GOOD" end of scale or more to the "BAD" one?

(i think today's episode is better than yesterday's. but gosh, I'm so sad to say this: so far mine would be more to the "BAD" one, but i'm still expecting... Dear Heirs, once you're back to Seoul, please be good with the writings and transitions. many scenes felt so forced or random: chasing scenes, ducking into a movie theater just like that, digging the trashcan, etc). Anyway, thanks DB for the recaps!

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Yes, since when is Hollywood a run away from Malibu, and since when can you just run into the middle of a movie without buying tickets or having to evade security?
Pff...

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Thanks GF.....

I'm really liking Heirs.....except a few scenes with annoying extra actors....

I love our main couple....Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye....also, the breezy vibe of the show...

And I'm glad our hero is not a jerk like the writer's previous shows.....and also very different as a character for Lee Min Ho in Boys Before Flowers....

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*from his Boys Before Flowers role….

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I agree, but still viewers are more interested with Young do's character... arrogant,mean etc..which was the past characters of lee min ho on his past series. So people, it's not surprising that you like kim woo bin's role. It has been effective for numerous shows... the writer picked LMH because it's differrent from Goo Jun Pyo.

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I agree! This episode was slow, but the romance got going quickly and I think Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye have great rapport. It's this relationship based on empathy and understanding that I love! And I totally love the teen angst feel. So much better than the over-the-top ridiculousness I was expecting. They need to hurry up and get out of America though. Like foreals. It hurts. I also want more development of Kim Woo Bin and Choi Jin Hyuk's characters because the totally snobby douchebag characters get real old real fast. It's frustrating and unrealistic and I love both actors so much and they need to change! But I'll definitely be keeping up with this show. Thanks for recapping!

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And I totally forgot to mention, WHO KEEPS CANS IN A REFRIGERATOR?! That probably shouldn't bother me as much as it did. But it did. It really did. I was so glad girlfriday mentioned it as well.

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Okay, I will be the odd one out and admit that I keep cans in the fridge. In particular I keep whatever I might want on a salad or in a cold pasta in the fridge. Things like corn, peas, black beans, chick peas, canned tomatoes, and of course canned fruit (because I like my fruit cold). But then I have always known I am an odd duck. lol

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I also keep cans in the fridge... lol

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Lazy people? Like Kim Tan? Hehe. But honestly, I do that too. Too lazy to transfer evaporated or condensed milk in a container and since it's gonna be consumed within days anyway...

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Condensed milk. Second that. I've never ever transfer that. Just put two holes on two opposite site of the can and I'm done. Will be gone in less than a week anyway. The Lee Min Ho gaze? Nice one.

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Haha, we do that at my house too. You really don't need to transfer it, it doesn't really make sense and you're just creating extra stuff for someone or yourself to wash later.

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TEENS keep cans in the fridge.

Apparently some other people, too, but definitely, it makes sense that a teen boy living by himself would just stick cans in the fridge.

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They need to go back to Korea, ASAP, if only for the logic. I live on the other side of country, but even i had to say wtf when they ran from the beach to the middle of Hollywood.

Also, I gotta admit it's not bad in Ep 2 when the engrish is in small/short doses.

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Agree with needing to go back to Korea. Hopefully this will take place in the middle of episode 3 (too soon?).
IMO I really don't want it to spending another episode dragging it out in America, unless something amazing or a plot twisting event appears. (fingers crossed).

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even i had to say wtf when they ran from the beach to the middle of Hollywood.

Same here. I was all 0_o and 'I really don't think the streets are laid out like that, nopenope'. Maybe a conveniently-timed wormhole appeared in front of them while they were running and stayed open long enough for the thugs to follow? *shrugs* Stranger things have happened in the universe, I'm sure.

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It is quite common for a tv show or movie to piece disjointed locales together. This is just a normal part of film-making.

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Still inexcusable :)

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It is a common ploy used by many dramas, not only this. In "The Killing" an American series, they put a bridge across the Puget Sound. We burst out laughing since we know the truth. So you happen to know Hollywood. Koreans and the rest of the world do not.

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Completely agree with everything you said!
The episode was a bit slow for me although the romance revved up full force.
I also like the rapport lee min ho and park shin hye are slowly building. They seem like two lost souls in america who have that one thing in common and are sort of connecting because of it. Even if they don't have hot chemistry right off the bat, i'd be happy if they still had this sort of understated chemistry.
I was also expecting this to be gossip girl esque (and way over the top) but i am also diggin' the more thoughtful tone.

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LMH looks so cute in his comfy "American clothes"and Birks. It is nice to see him playing just a kid... for now at least. I kind of don't want him to go back to Korea and have to wear stuffy suits. Cant he just tour America with Eun-Sang? I'd watch that!

I think the second ep was way better than the first. Probably due to the absence of that awful surfer dude.

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She bought one-way tix because she was going to ditch mom and lives in the US with sis... for a while that is.

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I think that gf's comment wasn't really a question over why Eun-sang bought a one-way ticket. Most tickets these days are sold round trip, and if you try to buy a one-way ticket, it's often ridiculously more expensive than buying round trip.

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She wasn't planning to go back though. She told her boss, whilst picking up her check in Episode 1, that she was going on vacation and that she wasn't coming back.

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Not really that much more expensive. According to Travelocity, about $1000 for round trip, and $600 for one way (which also means that she could have saved $440 dollars by booking online, since they quoted her about $1040).

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That's a one-off.

One way tickets are just about never worth buying, even if you only intend on going one way because they are normally more expensive than a return ticket.

Plus the fact that you wouldn't be let into the country without a return ticket.

But truth be told, the lack of logic starts with her buying a ticket to go to the States at all, because anyone who is working multiple jobs and barely scraping by does not fly half-way around the world. You would transfer the money because that would be the cheapest option. I know PSH's character is 'escaping' but it's just a very weak excuse to get her to the States. Frankly, her winning a ticket would have made more sense (if even if it would have been contrived).

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"One way tickets are just about never worth buying, even if you only intend on going one way because they are normally more expensive than a return ticket."

But is it like that in Korea?
Cause here in Germany it certainly is NOT like that, so I wouldn't even have assumed something like that...

"But truth be told, the lack of logic starts with her buying a ticket to go to the States at all, because anyone who is working multiple jobs and barely scraping by does not fly half-way around the world."

I guess she took the money from the money she was supposed to give to her sister. Of course it normally would be crazy to buy a ticket just to give some money, but first of all she did think that her sister was going to get married and second she planned to run away so obviously she had to get a ticket.

I actually liked it a lot that she got to the USA on her own and from her own motivation and not from some "coincidence" like winning a ticket or something... Cause frankly, that would have been just cheap imo.

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It was not just escaping, it was also her idea that her sister was living it up on her mothers money, and she wanted in on the action, so she used the excuse of delivering it personally. She used the money from her mothers account apparently to buy the ticket.

None of which makes any sense, but that is how I understand it all happened.

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No way in hell a US immigration officer will let someone into the country when that someone is an under-age high schooler visiting on her own on a visa waiver program and with one way ticket.

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No such thing as reciprocal visa on arrival. Check out what the "visa waiver program" is between the US and some countries, including South Korea. Trust me, with lots of family and friends traveling to the States without a visa, I know what I'm talking about.

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You can call it visa waiver or visa on arrival, same thing - either way it is still a visa that is stamped in your passport that states the type and in some cases duration. Some of the ones in my passport say quite clearly on the stamps "VISA", but all are on the pages labeled "VISAS. The "waiver" part just means you don't have to apply for a visa before arrival, like you do in China.

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I agree with you, US Homeland Security always ask for round trip ticket if you're visiting the US. Even if Eun Sang planned to stay and work in the US, she still has to purchase a cheap non-refundable RT ticket.

I think the scriptwriter did not research well. She is not detailed.

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There are exceptions, like student and work visa's, but she would not have qualified for either And from what I can figure out, her sister has probably already violated her student visa, assuming that is what she had.

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LMH really does have the intent staring down... Sheesh someone look at me like that would ya?

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That's what I've been saying. Since the opening scene (which was very long btw), I was shouting at PSH's character to just go with him before she melts from that stare.

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I too could do with a melting stare from someone. A hot someone.

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This is a good drama. All the characters are doing a great job of being who they are meant to be. It's not going too slowly because it is a 20 episode drama, though I thought they would be back in Korea by episode 3 but that's ok. I smiled a lot watching this episode. I like it.

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True to truth, I was smiling ear-to-ear.. My endorphins on the rise... just luv LMH's gaze, simply adorable

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"he could be great, a leader, a future king, but gets his wings clipped and caged because his existence poses a threat"

This is where I'm hoping the dramatic tension will come in, because right now, feeling sympathy for a girl isn't enough for me to believe Kim Tan is falling in love with Eun-sang. If the dramatic tension in this show ends up relying on the ill-fated lovers from different social backgrounds scenario, I'm not sure I can hang in for the long haul, even with all of the pretty.

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Oh, forgot to add that I did burst out laughing when the two took off running from behind the trash can. One second they're at the beach (Malibu?), the next second they come tearing around the corner on Hollywood Blvd, a minimum of ten miles away. :D

Oh, and can we hope that crazy-eyed, bad actor American friend died from his allergic reaction to beans? Please? (Although I may be "too lazy to celebrate." WTF?)

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I think producers might have killed him based on fan comments. May be there was a lot of activity last night to reedit episode 2. He He.

As an average viewer, who may not understand how 'seguek' like this drama is, assuming he could be a king is a bit much. But if this is the insight with which we should watch the drama, it would make it interesting.

But does every viewer read DramaBeans for insight into writers psyche?

Right now, it is an extremely ordinary show but it is all pretty and I like the cast despite the very ordinary, kind of ikky script.

Having said that, I will look forward to episode 3 next week. :-)

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"As an average viewer, who may not understand how ‘seguek’ like this drama is, assuming he could be a king is a bit much. But if this is the insight with which we should watch the drama, it would make it interesting. But does every viewer read DramaBeans for insight into writers psyche?"

of course not everyone reads dramabeans:) but don't forget that this show's primary audience is a Korean one, and, given that there are many sageuk-style dramas and several of them attain very high ratings, one can can assume that most Koreans have seen at least one sageuk, and therefore would be able to make that connection on some level. the illegitimate son who has lots of potential but is kept far away because he poses a threat to the legitimate son's power is a pretty common character in sageuks. even if you've only watched a couple, it's something you'd definitely pick up on here.

what's nice about archetypes (those common themes or stock characters that show up in lots of movies/tv shows/literature/music etc) is that if you have seen them before, you pick up on them and it gives you another dimension of understanding that can make you interpret the characters' actions in new ways. but usually, even if you don't recognize the archetype, you can still enjoy and understand the story thats presented.

for example, and i mention this cos i was talking to a friend about it recently, if you've seen the movie "500 days of summer" and you know anything about the "manic pixie dream girl" character type, you might interpret the movie differently than someone who has seen it but has never heard of the whole MPDG thing. people in the latter group would see the main character tom as a romantic, whereas people in the former group might see his character as slightly more problematic. people from both groups can enjoy or dislike the movie, they would just interpret the characters differently because of certain knowledge. it's not a bad thing if you don't pick up on it. it just adds a little something extra if you do.

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I like your example. I need to look that up. Sounds interesting.

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adette,
I really liked your detailed explanation, thank you. That is one of the reasons why I tend to ask so many questions when I watch Kdramas, because there are so many layers, and I feel that I miss a lot of them.

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My thoughts ran more along the lines of what just happened? Why on earth would he suddenly hide behind the garbage when he saw a taxi pulled up. As if it's normal for him to have thugs paying him a visit, none of the people coming out from the taxi looked familiar and didn't he move to hide before we could see who it was.
Furthermore for a second there I was expecting Eun-Chang's friend. That Rached called him to come over quickly (although now that I thought about it that would have been too fast - unless we follow the same logic that gets the characters running from Malibu to Hollywood in record time without breaking a sweat. *lol).

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I was thinking it might be Eun-Chang's friend as well. When I saw it was thugs, all I could think was, "Crap, it's druggie friends of Blond Surfer Dude coming after Tan", because any guy stupid enough to try to snort a shitload of mystery powder on the beach in front of dozens of people is going to be stupid enough to drag his friends into his crap as well. I'm so ready for the show to move back to Korea.

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I think it was Tammy from the beach and class, her boyfriend, and his friend. Why she was stupid enough to tell them where he lived is...just stupid. Probably to get them in the theatre.

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BTW, there is no such thing as a "bean allergy". Some people are allergic to Soy, which is not really a bean but a legume just like peanuts.

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Beans are legumes too.

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You're right. I was reading up on soybean allergies and missed that fact.

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in any case, the powder (which was actually 미숫가루/misutgaru) typically does have soybeans in it (along with other beans and grains).

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They actually ran from Malibu to Hollywood all the way to San Diego. lol. I know that for sure because I was lucky enough to have watched when them filmed in San Diego the part where they ran into the theatre.The Reading Cinemas theatre is in the Gaslamp quarter in downtown San Diego.

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Thank you quincee for that info. I wonder what made the writer make them do that (running from Malibu to San Diego). I mean, what was the point of that, really?
Why do they do stuff like that? Because they think the audience in Korea won't know, and they don't care about the international audience? It's kind of like insulting people's intelligence, a little, if you ask me.

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lots of movies and tv shows do that. they just construct their own world based on what they want.. tan's school in the drama is university if Redlands... we're an hour outside of L.A. why they choose to film those scenes out here us beyond me.. there are so many closer college campuses to their other filming locations lol.

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Yeah, what on earth was that phrase, anyway? Crazy writer...

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Heh. I liked it. It was slow-paced and I could've done without the family drama and the insecure older brother, but I'll take what I can get. Hate Rachel.

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For some reason i cannot stand krystal more than rachel. I like the girl playing rachel, and i hate the girl playing krystal.
Her acting is horrible, and she makes an annoying character even less endurable (where some actresses out there can make a harmless character like her more endearing despite the whining and the clingy.)

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Krystal happen to be Jessica's sister[the one who killed Wild Romance]. Looks like acting chops DO NOT run in the family. he he...

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But SM Ent does.

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Krystal, is an acting disaster, best left with no lines and relegated to throwing tantrums in the far background out of the camera's eye. I also do not think Kim Ji-won has much of an acting skill-set to draw upon, but she fulfills her role as an uber indulgent clothes hanger. These 2 characters really hold no interest for me.

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In general I find the girl who plays Rachel (Kim Ji-won) perfectly serviceable. She's not the greatest actor in the world, nor is she the worst. She gets the job done and is pretty inoffensive as far as young female actresses go, in my opinion.

Krystal, on the other hand, I haven't liked in any role ever. I don't know, she somehow always irritates me. Maybe its because I always see her playing the same bratty, entitled character...?

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Krystal is as terrible as Seohyun in her trailer for Passionate Love. You just have to LOL

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i love this drama and the couple of lee bo na and chan young, the history is more and more interestng and i agree with you: it still feels like we’re in the introductory phase where everyone takes a turn in the spotlight to show us who they are.
i cant wait for the episode 3.

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I have some questions, because I am confused about a few things:

1--I read that (and know that) KT's mother is the mistress, however she does have a ring, and she is married to KT's dad. So, I am thinking and assuming that she might have started as a mistress, however along the way, at some point, Kim daddy married her, right? If that is the case, why is she still called a mistress then? Is it because of how she started out (in the family)? and also, the 2nd wife left, but did not divorce, right? So legally, she is still married to Kim daddy, right?

2--I am also confused about the fact that KT (I think based on maybe what JB explained in her recap yesterday) is on his mother's registry, but not on the family's registry. How does that work? Since (and if) she is married, wouldn't that automatically put him on the family registry as well, or as those two things different things? Doesn't she get some benefits being married, and if she does, what are those then?

3--I think yesterday, JB mentioned in the recap that KT is the heir to the company and his brother is trying to take things away from him. If KW is the "legitimate child" and KT the "illegitimate one," how can KT be the heir then? Why is he (KT) more important? Wouldn't it make sense for KW to be the automatic and assumed heir? How and why is KT a valid and legitimate "threat" to him? Is it because daddy Kim has a say in who the heir is, and he maybe indicated that he wanted KT to be the heir?

Thanks to anyone who helps me understand.

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Yeah! Good questions!

Also, is Eun Sang's mother deaf or just mute? Because I definitely thought she was deaf in the first episode and was just reading lips.

Does that mean she was just pretending to tap on the phone. I missed something here.

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And by pretending to tap on the phone, I mean pretending to hear by tapping on the phone.

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I'm pretty sure she was just mute, because she obviously could hear Tan's big bro was coming, thus she wiped the mistress' lips from the wine, and also pour the rest of the wine into her soup.

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Hello Alicia,

To be honest, like you, I thought until yesterday that ECS's mom was deaf and mute, because one blogger's description said she was.
However, I did notice yesterday, when she (the mom) was at her house, with her daughter, that a few times, she didn't look at her daughter's lips, when ECS was speaking. A friend then told me that the mom was actually not deaf, but mute. So either the mom's description changed, or it was not properly stated, to start with.
I think I will go with the mom being mute and not deaf, because that seems to make sense, based on her behavior.

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I think she's just mute because, in some of the home scenes with Eun Sang, Eun Sang spoke to her with her back turned and she responded. And Madame Han insulted her by saying something like "You can't talk and you obviously can't taste how bad this food is so what is your mouth good for?" So I'm assuming it's only a speaking problem.

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Thanks! I thought I had probably just missed something. It just seemed odd to me that she knows sign language, but can still hear. I hope they go into that more because I think it is interesting.

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Alicia,
This, "I hope they go into that more because I think it is interesting," I agree with. I would love that too.
Also, remember that all kinds of people know and use sign language, even those who can hear and speak, so they can communicate with those who are deaf, mute or both (like people who are teachers, or family members, or friends, etc...).

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It make sense she'd sign to communicate, since she can't speak. Much quicker and easier than always writing things down.

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I'm thinking too American. Right now they rarely teach deaf people sign language because they want them to be able to better communicate with the rest of the world. (I do not agree. Why is it not ok to know 2 languages? But this is a totally off topic debate.) I realize that being mute is a whole other animal, but that was the mindset I was coming from. But still, another interesting aspect of this drama that will keep me coming back! One of the big reasons I like Heirs. It keeps surprising me!

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Thanks Alicia for explaining. It helped me understand your perspective/where you were coming from, in asking your questions.

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Really? Here in America? I hadn't noticed that. Most, if not all, of the deaf people I know sign fluently and start learning it pretty much as soon as they are diagnosed. In fact. I'm a preschool teacher and at two of the schools I've taught at they teach the babies sigh language to help them communicate until their verbal skills develop (and it totally WORKS. I was skeptical at first).

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There has been huge debates in education about if to teach children sign language. They feel it isolates them from the rest of society and reading lips is a better skill.

I had this whole debate in a class in college. I wish I still had the resources to show you :/

My cousin is deaf and was never taught sign language. She only reads lips. They said that she would get along better in society if she didn't rely on sign language and learned to read lips.

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I think the middle wife who has no children but was legally married did not want to expose her husband's affair and so, when there was a child due to the affair, she told everyone (Press etc.) he is her own son. That may be also making things difficult for the actual son from the first marriage. I don't know if the first wife is dead or divorced. The fact that there is a legal marriage and a legal son threatens the first born. That is what I thought anyway.

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From what I understood it seems Tam in registered as legit son with the second wife as the legal mother, but his actual mom is the mistress (third wife).

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Thanks mav!

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Which makes Tan's and Won's father a scum. Why do they show him as a respectable ajusshi ?

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Because men get away with this shit, while women affected are called crazy when they get upset.

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i think KT's mom is still the mistress.
the one who still married to the dad is actually the second wife
KW's mom was the first wife, already dead and second wife raised him
even though second wife already left the dad, they never got divorced and she's still the legal wife
and she will remains so as she said won't ever let KT mom get to be the legal wife
hence KT is registered in the family registry as the second's wife son and not of her mom
KW and KT are both the heirs of empire group, that's why KW is so adamant to exile KT
dad even asked KW to bring along KT to his business trip in US so that they can play family to the business affiliates

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1. Tan's father did not marry his mother, so legally she has no status. Tan's father legally has one wife, the 2nd wife.

2. KT is on his father's registry, as his father's and 2nd wife's son.

3. The SBS show description mentions three types of heirs: the ones who'll actually end up running the company, like Won, Young-do, and Rachel; the "stock" heirs, who will inherit stock, but not end up running the company, like Bona or Tan; and the "prestige" heirs, like Hyoshin or Myungsoo, who come from families of social prestige but not necessarily rich. (Then there's those who inherit poverty, like Eun Sang ...)

So both Won and Tan are heirs. Won's place is not secure, as it looks like their father won't cut out Tan and will give him enough of an ownership stake to be a problem for Won if Tan takes an interest in running the company, or perhaps breaking up the Jeguk group or selling his stake outside the family.

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Thanks! That clears up a lot!

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Thank you guys, your answers were all very helpful. I have another question for mee, or anyone who can answer, really:
since SBS listed three types of heirs (and thank you for giving the examples, and the categories they would fall into), what kind of "Heir" is Chan-young then? He is not inheriting a company, and yet he is not poor, like ECS. His dad has a good job at Jeguk group, however, does his dad have stocks, to pass along to his son? In what category would CY fall into, please?

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He is not a Heir at all. In the long preview you hear Tan, ask what is this? is this charity? or something along those lines. He was referring to Chan Young's status on the social ladder, and wondering how he got into the school.

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Really LoveIt?
Because I thought all the characters in the drama were some kind of "Heirs." I haven't rewatched the 1st teaser, but remember the one where they showed each character and they each had an "Heir" (what kind) description? One had intellectual property, and at least 2 of the descriptions left me confused, because I was not really sure as to what they meant and implied. I will try and rewatch that teaser, with the descriptions. I thought I saw Chan-Young in that description, for some reason.

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the preview describe him as 'Intellectual/Intelligent' Heirs
i think it describe how Chan Young excel in his studies(he's first place in school) and probably will be off to future good uni and career

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Thanks lila, that makes sense.

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Right, he is smart. Not a heir of anything tangible.

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Lila, (I went back and rewatched the 1st teaser) and in it, Kang Ha-neul and Park Hyung-Sik's characters are described as or called "Honorable Heirs," do you know what they meant by that, please? And Young-do is heir to land?

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Honorable heirs - I think it means they come from families that are public servants like prosecutors, attorney generals things like that where they are highly educated and work in prestigious government jobs

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Thank you thelady!
I think that you are actually right, because the KHN's character's grandfather and uncles and dad seem to be in the Law business, like you said, prosecutors, attorney generals, chiefs of police. They mentioned that, when they were having the meal at Young-do's dad hotel, and Young-do went to greet them and serve them.

And Young-do is heir of land, meaning? I thought he would inherit hotels (from his dad)? And then his step-mother brings more hotels to that family? (Rachel's mom).

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Cast
Empire High School Students
Lee Min Ho as Kim Tan (18, heir of Empire Group)
Park Shin Hye as Cha Eun Sang (18, heir of poverty)
Kim Woo Bin as Choi Young Do (18, heir of Zeus Hotel)
Jung Soo Jung as Lee Bo Na (18, heir of Mega Entertainment)
Kim Ji Won as Rachel Yoo (18, heir of RS International/Young Do's step sister)
Kang Min Hyuk as Yoon Chan Young (18)
Kang Ha Neul as Lee Hyo Shin (19, heir of Attorney-general Lee Chang Hyuk)
Park Hyung Shik as Jo Myung Soo (18, heir of Victory Law Firm)
Jun Soo Jin as Kang Ye Sol (18, heir of Gangnam room salons)
Empire Group
Choi Jin Hyuk as Kim Won (31, president of Empire Group/Tan's older brother)
Kim Sung Ryung as Han Ki Ae (44, Tan's mother)
Jung Dong Hwan as Kim Nam Yoon (62, chairman of Empire Group/Tan and Won's father)
Kim Mi Kyung as Park Hee Nam (50, housemaid/Eun Sang's mother)
Choi Won Young as Yoon Jae Hoo (45, chief secretary of Empire Group/Chan Young's father)
Park Joon Geum as Jung Ji Sook (54, foundation chairwoman of Empire Group/Tan's registered mother)
Others
Yoon Son Ha as Esther Lee (43, CEO of RS International/Rachel's mother)
Choi Jin Ho as Choi Dong Wook (47, CEO of Zeus Hotel/Young Do's father)
Im Joo Eun as Jun Hyun Joo (25, Empire High School teacher)
Yoon Jin Seo as Cha Eun Suk (25, Eun Sang's older sister) special appearance

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Hello Jangeusu, and thank you! This is a rather exhaustive list which I find helpful. I appreciate this.

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I have another question: does anyone know why Hyo-shin threw up (when he was in Young-do's bathroom)? Young-do seemed to act like he was not surprised by what happened, and that it might have happened before.

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Thanks Alicia. I can take that as a possible and plausible answer. Thanks for guessing :-)...

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Wow, you two are looking in very positively. I mean, that's a good thing and I'm glad you're both enjoying it, but I'm so on the opposite end. I am NOT feeling the manufactured romance and I don't really care for anyone. Wah!

And Candy digging through trash?

GROOOAAN.

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Not to mention, he could have easily prevented her from digging through said trash if he'd just called out something like, I HAVE YOUR PASSPORT RIGHT HERE. Or he could have taken 3 long strides and caught up with her as she ran away. But no, he was like, "ok, I'll let her get started on that garbage while I talk to annoying girl. That's definitely more important than keeping the girl I like from getting covered in nasty trash."

Which she has yet to wash off her hands, by the way. Even after that 5 hour run.

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I was thinking exactly that!! That is why it is all ikky. Why would he not tell her he has her passport when she is going to be digging through trash and why is she not more upset with him when he gives her the passport? Seriously?

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LOL to both comments. I suppose no one makes a fuss because it's true lub? Shruuugs.*

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LOL... thanks... I nearly fell off my chair. Luv that dry humour of yours... ha ha

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I'm not really feeling the chemistry, either, but considering the characters just met twenty-four hours ago, that's not a big deal to me (yet). That Tan's talking about liking ES makes me smirk, though, because all he's done is stare Meaningful Stares, and as nice as those are, it takes a little more than that to convince me a guy is interested. Like, you know, not standing there for a long moment and watching her dig through the trash before going over to tell her to stop, and telling her straight out, "I have your passport". You're lazy in school, lazy in life, and you've been lazy in learning how to treat a girl right!

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How is he lazy in treating a girl right, when he gave her a place to stay and food to eat. What? I am confused. Clearly he tried to stop her, and ran after her because he wanted to talk to her in private and away from Rachel.

He has been going above and beyond his call of duty, and that is a sure fire sign that a guy likes you, moreso than anything else I can think of.

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He is definitely intrigued with her. Remember that their first meeting was when he witnessed her and her sister's falling out. He connected with that, because it mirrored his own relationship with his brother.
That instant connection is what got his attention. I don't think he likes her yet (as he thinks or says at the end of this episode) but rather is captivated or interested in her and her life. Remember when he went through her "talkingbook"?
Again, repeating what LoveIt said he did provide shelter and food for her, probably because he understands how lost she probably feels in america all by herself with no one there.
I get what you mean though, that it all seems a bit rushed in the romance department. But all the reasons stated above is valid enough to show that kim tan is interested in eun sang. I don't think it's to the point where he likes her yet, though.

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I just wish she had brains enough to think "Hmm this guy is on a first name basis with the cop. I'm sure he knows how to find him without me digging through the trash."

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Finally someone who does not think there is a great chemistry there (I can maybe see a potential but the reaction is just way over the top for me). I mean come on. Why are people swooning over the staring? Am I the only one who thought it seemed weird. The still and silent staring could be potentially creepy considering the guy is a basically a stranger. And this weirdo also joked about selling your kidneys... how sure are you he's 100% joking?

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Totally right there with you. I just don't see the chemistry, and I also found the staring weird... I feel like both characters are too low-key, so they don't balance each other out. I don't really connect with any of the characters, except maybe Kang Ha Neul's. I want to see more of his story, definitely.

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LOL. I totally get what you mean. I do think we're all being a little more harsh on the show than we should be, but somehow, it all seems justified.

I so thoroughly enjoy these recaps and comments, but I think we're all trying so very hard to find something "deeper" that probably is not and will not be there. (And yes, I know we're only two eps in.) There's likely some compelling enough material in the works, but sadly, this show will be forgettable.

I, personally, don't like Kim Eunsook's writing (Her Candy Characters, CASE IN POINT) and I just really think they butchered casting here.

Lee Minho isn't exceptional or anything at acting, but both he and Park Shinhye are beyond this point. They're totally moving in reverse. Unfortunate. They'll recover from this, but still.

They should've casted relative newbies. More like "Monstar" or "School 2013" or even "Answer me 1997" and "Dream High". That sort of distant, indie feel helped to carry the storylines, characters, and tone while bringing heart to the fore.

With "Heirs", the star power is overwhelming. I know I'm not the only one distracted by pretty, shiny things. @_@ Though there's likely some heart in this drama somewhere, somehow, someway, I don't think it'll be fleshed out well.

*You have reached the end of this novel.*

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I was not commenting on their acting exactly but rather the scene itself. Maybe other actors could have done it better but who knows? Or maybe the staring simply shouldn't have lasted as long as it did.
When I said lack of chemistry... I was more of a criticism of how fast it all went down. It didn't feel quite like love at first sight either. Him saying that maybe he likes her does not seemed that farfetched though... it just seems that he finds her intriguing... someone different hence the interest leading to thinking 'maybe I like her'. But the dreamy/intense overlong staring just seemed out of place. If you were caught doing that or the one being stared at don't someone break the eye contact quite quickly because out of embarrassment or awkwardness?

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stakes are high here and expectation from everyone is on over-drive. thanks to the long preview and too much hype that we already know quite a bit, suddenly we find everything a bit slow, picking at even the slightest flaw... guess this is normal what now with our expectation being raised to higher levels .. everyone is here to share their views... irregardless pos. or neg.
Just hope KES will deliver along the way and she'd better start with ep. 3, please let the gang be in Seoul ASAP.

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The progress of this drama sounds promising...

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Woah! In love already in episode 2?! That's pretty quick and can also mean there is going to be a lot of angst. Not sure if I can handle it! THanks for the recap!

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Getting hooked up this early means they will break up or be broken up by the end of ep4 - and probably at least twice more after that.

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Good for the drama since we have 18 more episodes to enjoy, more drama the better!

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definitely no LUV yet but let's say some palpitations or stirred feelings from KT side first and that's nice to know.

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It's the endorphins from all the crazy situations they've been put in together.

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I enjoyed this episode a lot more than #1. Maybe it's the absence of surfer dude Jay. I also think the main couple was cute and that is because they were being mostly cute rather than angsty today. I disliked all the crying from yesterday. I am still not loving this but I think it will be a fun watch, and frankly, that's all I care about from a high school show.

But I am curious as to what kind of school Tan goes to. That was a college classroom but we got the cheerleaders to give a high school ambience?

I am surprised that I feel like Rachel is playing Blair Waldorf quite well (ok, not even close to Leighton Meester but she is pulling it off well). I already hate her and that is a good sign.

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I think we have to accept the american 'school' with a giant eye roll. I mean, it's supposed to be summer, too- unless Tan is in a weird school or some kind of summer program, he shouldn't be in school at all, especially in high school.

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And if this is summer, why is it a typical school year day on campus--cheerleaders in uniform practicing, community notice board covered with fliers, students milling around between classes? When I was in high school, I did equipment for marching band, which meant a week of band camp at the high school each August. No cheerleaders, blank bulletin boards, and the only students milling around were the band geeks and football players (I'm sure there were others, but I only remember them and us).

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American high schoolers have a lot longer summer vacation too, usually from June to after Labor day weekend in September, whereas Korean ones have it from the end of July to the end of August (if that, because they study non-stop preparing for the college entrance exam). So this Korean high school girl on a summer vacation visiting an American high school also on a summer vacation in October? That makes a lot of sense.

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t makes as much sense as snorting soy beans or getting engaged at 16. I can see already this is going to be one of those dramas where I focus more on all the mistakes and stupid things than on the drama.

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I don't think getting engaged at 16 is all that uncommon in rich Asian families. Did you not see that HongKong magnate offering millions for whoever would marry his daughter? That kind of thing still happens.

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I think Rachel should throw everyone for a loop and get herself engaged to Joseon Crown Prince, aka Corporate Hyung with a stick up his butt. He's too busy to run around with girls, and would love her for her shares, and would probably pat her on the head and tell her she's cute every now and again.

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I would actually love this development. But we all know the big bro is saving himself for the pretty teacher.

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Blair was the biggest bitch of all in Season 1 but she was still likable since it was clear she was just an insecure girl but her money gave her power. She ended up being my favorite character in the series and I was rooting for her 'til the end. I don't think Rachel will be the same mainly because she is not the lead and her story probably won't be as developed and it definitely won't be as long to make us care so deeply. However, I like her portrayal so far a lot and I think I will like it a whole lot more once they are back in Korea.

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Idk how the Korean viewers are reacting to her character but a lot of international viewers seem to be at least somewhat invested in Rachel (and Young Do). Hopefully that means she does get more screen time and development as the series progresses. Personally, I think Kim Jiwon is doing a great job so far.

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Gah so many names -.- I guess I'm gonna need at least 2-4 more episode to get everyone right :D

I have no freaking idea what it is but LMH has done it again... He's not the best actor out there and I kind of don't care for him when he's not currently in a drama *hides from fans*. But then a drama with him starts and I'm swooning like crazy :P

I can't wait for the romance to get really going because I like Tan and Eun Sang together!

All those family relations make me a bit dizzy but well...I'll get that straight as well :D

Rachel is a bitch and I hate her! (and I LOVE to hate her!)

Love that Kang Ha Neul made his entrance though it was too short for my liking!

And I don't care where this is going storywise because I am all in for the PRETTY! Sometimes a girl is allowed to be shallow, right?

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I think this is the first KES's drama which has low rating. Lee minho is lucky,he has worked with 2 popular writers with rating hit (song jina & KES), but none of them had high rating

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I'm not even surprise.
Honestly.,in this recent years it's so predictable.If any writer take Lee Min Ho or Jang Geun Suk or Yoon Eun Hye or Moon Geun Young you can tell their drama will be a failure..Not even aired...,Mirae's Choice and Pretty Man already have their answer..If you look at KES's case..,i think she herself not even confident about Heirs.,that why she recruit a lot of idol here.and everytime netizen respond about that,she always backup the idol for the sake of her drama.In the end., if Heirs rating will going around 8%-12%...that predictable..simple as that.

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but i think Mirae's choice will have good ratings
the drama seems to be a solid romantic comedy and there's obvious chemistry between the four leads
and it will not have any tight competition when it start airing
suspicious housekeeper and goddess of fire both are single digit drama, empress ki won't air until 28/10

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Agree with you. I think KES only wants make money not good quality drama, so that's why she recruits idol stars because heirs already been sold to many countries even before aired. This is downgrade from her previous works

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Secret ratings have shot up a bunch - started in the 5% range, now hitting over 15% in some areas for the last two episodes. Better than this drama I think, but a bit darker also - some may not care for it.

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I love Secret. I am looking forward to it next week. Heirs will just be for a Kim Woo Bin fix.

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You forgot Park Shyn Hye her last four dramas had low rating. Good thing she started in few hit movies because you would wonder why this girl gets a job.

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What happened to Lee Min Ho's acting? HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A VETERAN ACTOR, but he has no life at all in this drama. I expect more from him.

it is only PARK SHIN HYE and HER MOM who are worthy to be watched.

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I noticed that too. But sometimes, even with good looks you have to up the ante.

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I think so too :(

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I love the Mom character. I think we have some competition for the best Kdrama mom of the year award.

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LMH has never impressed me as a good actor - passable but not what I would call good. His main claim to fame I that he get the girls to watch.

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He seems to suppress his facial expression. His smiles are calculated. Today, I re-watched a few scenes in BOF and there is something different about him now compared to then.

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not to sound like a bigot but, PLEASE GO BACK TO KOREA! !!
Also, woo bin's charecter is just the definition of asshole. boy make a good asshole.

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YES, please go back to KOREA! like yesterday!!

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I'm loving this drama. I needed a romance like this, with hero down to earth like him, He is not an asshole, and his understanding, caring, even pitiful stares at her are killing me ....awwww...i wish they would last a bit longer...
I like the actress playing Rachel, she was cute in what's up, but as a fiancee i find her annoying. As a rich girl , i like her. She is a misunderstood brat. For the rest of the cast, uhm i don't care

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well, hi there young-do... are you chuck bass in disguise?

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Yes, and I can't wait to see him machinating with Blair in disguise. They will both be interested in half of the main couple so this should be fun.

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Anybody else find it a bit odd/hilarious when daddy told older brother to take Tan with him to the business meeting, because Americans put family first (or something like that)? Yeah umm, that doesn't mean we bring our little brothers to important business meetings.

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I was puzzled by that as well -thought I was misunderstanding it, actually. If anything, isn't Korea a more family centered country than the US? What with filial piety, getting parental approval for your wife, etc.

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Yes! When I read this I knew that the writer has probably never met an American, seen an American show or movie, listened to American Music, correctly identified America's president or even successfully located America on a map!

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He isn't just a little brother, though. He is probably a big shareholder-little brother. So bringing him to a business party to show off the bromance and a united front of the chaebol company makes a good business sense.

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I (optimistically) thought that Daddy Dearest was trying to force them to spend time together in hopes of reconciliation.

But really it's more of a reminder that Tan taking over the company is always an option should Big Brother get too uppity.

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That comment made no sense at all. If anything, Koreans are the ones that have the reputation of putting family over good sense (at least in dramas). Where else would you see so many useless relatives as managers, directors, etc. in some megacorp. Nepotism is rife in Korea and much of Asia, yet he comes out with that stupid comment.

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The concubine is Tan's biological mother, but the second wife is Tan's legal mother, as there was no other way to enter him into his father's family registry. Tan's mother would rather have him have legal status as the Jeguk chairman's second son than have no legal status at all. Before the Korean family law reform in 2005, children could only be entered into the family registry of their father. Children born to unwed women were in a legal limbo, unless they were entered into the family registry of a male relative as their child.

So Tan's mother's and the second wife's relationship isn't that complicated in the legal sense. In other aspects, ...

I find the second wife fascinating, as she raised Won for 10 years, but also put up with Tan and his mother for part of that time. It makes me wonder when and why she chose to separate from Tan's father, and what role she'll play regarding the two half-brothers.

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I want to know why the elder brother is so angry at her. Perhaps it's because she adopted Tan, thus giving him rights to the fortune? Yeah, that's probably it. But as a Queen, she's going to want her "son" in place too.

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Ohgodohgod this drama is going to kill me...and not in a good way. Bad American stereotypes, cultural appropriation (hello, dreamcatcher...), bad English, and a boring Lee Min Ho.

Let's hope Kim Woo Bin and Kim Ji Won make it worth watching.

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Oh, as long as they don't have to take a trip to the desert to find a Native American medicine man to break some sort of body-switching spell, I can live with the dreamcatcher.

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I roll my eyes every time they bring out that dream catcher

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The running from Malibu to Hollywood cracked me up. A lot of Angelenos would kill to know that shortcut. This is a fun, breezy show, but I am ready for them to get back to Korea. This writer must really hate Americans.

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Lol, I had the same reaction about the Malibu to Hollywood shortcut. :) It's frustrating to me that they would spend so little time trying to make America feel more realistic (though the university *cough* I mean, high school campuses looked a lot like hanging out at UCLA. Lots of different kinds of people mixed together). There are so many Koreans who will watch this show who live in LA. Wouldn't they try and attempt to make it something like they experience? I dunno...

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It's not just America that's unrealistically portrayed in K-dramas. Imagine what Koreans think when a CEO character, probably in Gangnam, gets a "save me" text message and arrives at Gimpo within 10 minutes (yes, I'm looking at you, TMS). K-dramas are full of these kinds of discrepancies and you just have to suspend your disbelief to enjoy the big pictures.

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dang this is turning into wackoland with all the characters and backstory and plotting, etc, etc.

It totally feels like a saegeuk... and I always fast forward through the political/strategy stuff. But maybe this time, because it's pretty people doing the scheming, I'll try to sit through it.

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This is pretty alright. So many characters, I feel like it's going to take five episodes just to introduce them. Bona is cute, at least. There's some interesting things happening with the male relationships. And yeah I could stare at LMH staring all day. I apologise for being OT, but I'm watching medical top team now and far out it is /good/.

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A couple of things to say!

First: Thanks guys for the recaps!

Second: I agree...running like that, those 2 scenes of "let's chase the bonding couple"? Lame but...it made me laugh because it was lame!

Third: Tan! Dude! If you're so rich, buy new shirts because those...nah! Really!

Fourth: Ok Candy girl, the bitch just throw her stuff, trashed them, insult you and you...do nothing! Oh no, I forgot, you go digg up some more trash! Where is the fierce girl that shup the hell up of the 3 harassing ajusshis in ep 1?

Anyway, I do feel a "Boys over flowers" vibe but a better one so I'll keep giving this a shot!

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I was yelling "Punch her! Punch her right in the face!" at the screen to no avail. It's disappointing when the feisty candy gets de-fanged especially so quickly.

If she returns to her episode one self I'll happily assume Events have ground her down and all she needs is five minutes alone to sob her heart out so she can let it all out and move on. I'm hoping that's the case because one episode in is way too soon to remove the MFC's spine.

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So many names, I had to look at episode 1 again.

Agreed, when Rachel kicked Eun Sang's suitcase down the stairs, I was yelling "kick her ass!", but she did nothing.

What happened to the sassy girl who wouldn't take guff during her pizza delivery job? Unfortunately, she left it in Korea. I hope she stops being a doormat soon and knocks Rachel off her high heels!

Liked Woo Bin and Kang Min Hyuk. They're doing a wonderful job in their roles.Hope to see more of them.

Loved the Malibu to Hollywood chase. We who live in California and have visited L.A. are LMAO!

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I am also giving her a pass (once!). She's had a rocky 24 hours. As long as her spine returns I'll be happy.

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Watching them run I just wanted to copy Shorty in "Scary movie"..."Run, bitch, run!" because it was so unrealistic!

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When they get chased from Malibu to Hollywood- that's Tammy's boyfriend! (you know, the blond bikini chick hanging over lee min ho in episode 1). There was a barely coherent "english" conversation in episode 1 with Tammy and surfer dude and Lee Min Ho, where surfer dude was all, 'you're not going to bring your boyfriend to the party, right, Tammy'. And if you look closely at the beginning of the chase, when they're still standing by the trash, Tammy's there.

It's actually hilarious. And unclear, because the setup in english was so. so. bad.

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I'm impressed that you were able to put that together. I just thought it was some random chase thrown in there, maybe related to how the police officer says he's already familiar with Tan.

If this is the case, it's hilarious that Tammy arrived with them in a taxi as their escort. Maybe her English is so bad, too, that she couldn't talk her boyfriend out of going after Tan. Hehe

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Yup, you got it!

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I can feel the chemistry, but I did not expect he would like her this early. It’s almost like puppy love. They are awfully cute, though, and I also really like them together. Facebook stalking -- so 21st century. I can’t wait until Tan gets jealous of Eun Sang’s relationship with Chan Young.

Heirs has all the makings of a crack drama, but the random scenes confuse me. Last episode, we had a discussion about cooking carrots, and this episode, we get throwing up in a bathroom? Huh? Are we going somewhere with this?

I think I’m going to really like Bo Na. She is clingy, yes, but endearing in a way. She is such a ditz that she’s completely harmless. Unlike Rachel who is conniving. I thought Eun Sang was a take-no-shit kind of girl. Why did she let Rachel step all over her and not defend herself? I despise k-drama heroines who act weak, but this is rather out of character for Eun Sang. All of our rich kids know each other, right? So Rachel should know Chan Young when she saw his reply, right?

Thanks for the recap, girlfriday!

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she should know Chan Young as Young Do and Myungsoo also know him

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I definitely thought it was strange the way Eun Sang let Rachel step on her too, but I think circumstances are different than when she met Bo Na. Eun Sang is in a really conscious state because she's totally out of her element. She's at the mercy of fate, with no money or a place to stay other than Tan's. And she was already uncomfortable staying with him.

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1) Confession Already!!! I hope it's not a fakeout. If this is for real then I will forgive all the slowness of the first episode and a half.

2) I love how they ran from his house in the hills to what looks like Downtown LA without breaking a sweat.

3) I wasn't offended at last night's stereotypes because they more silly than anything else. But tonight's were just ignorant. Chris's fat, beer swilling "bros" and a couple of musclebound minorities all threatening acts of violence? I know we don't have a great reputation in the rest of the world but my feelings are still a little hurt.

4) The scenes in America were great tonight but the Korean scenes are still very choppy and confusing. I can't keep everyone strait and I am already sure I don't care about any of the corporate intrigues.

5) The makeup on the men is getting distracting. Woobin looks like a mannequin.

6) I haven't spent much time watching LMH dramas since Boy Over Flowers. I forgot how awesome his smoldering stare is. I think I'm in a for the long run for that alone.

7) Bona seems (hopefully) harmless but I already hate Rachel. I hope she has a tragic accident in Tan's magnificent infinity pool.

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8) I would have appreciated it if Eun Sang had stood up to Rachel a little more. At least tried to make her clean up her belongings. I'm sure there is no way Rachel would do such a thing but, for my sake, try to convince me that she's just not another Candy.

9)This episode was funny. Something Episode 1 was not.

10) I loved the recurring organ harvesting references that Tan used to tease Eun Sang. I hope this is a recurring theme.

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Is the penchant for horrible, dehumanizing slasher flicks supposed to make her not a Candy? Urgh, it's like they want me to find her cool, when I just find her increasingly annoying.

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1 through 7 - agreed.

Re: 3) Yeah, can't say I was surprised after yesterday's episode that this one managed to throw in some even more unpleasant "American" characters. Should have known they'd have to have sweaty fat people show up at least once. The doctor at the hospital and the professor weren't horrible human beings, but that's a pretty low ratio.

7). HA. Yes.

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I think she bought a one-way ticket to America because she was planning on staying there with her sister until she realized her unni was lying about her wonderful lifestyle.

Haha, and the jump from places was confusing, they were in Malibu, Redland, and then Hollywood.. I guess they are lumping them all together as one town?

Slow start on the plot and not much of a story right now but I'm liking the interactions between the main couple. Hope they return to Korea soon because then we can finally have all the characters within the same time zone and place and have some real drama rama.

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I ended watching this episode with a smile. That's a good thing in my books.

The only thing is that every other person is rude. Wow....the snobs in this episode. I couldn't believe it when Rachel pushed Eun-sang's bag down the steps. Seriously. How mean can you be. I also think that there is a love triangle between Tan, Rachel, and Young-do. There's some backstory that we don't know about yet. Maybe Young-do liked Rachel, however, Tan had to get engaged to her (for whatever reason), which caused a rift in Tan's and Young-do's relationship. Rachel's mom referred to them as being best friends. Rachel has always probably liked Tan, however, he's never liked her back.

Lastly, I'm glad they turned the trope on its head, and had Eun-sang grab Tan's hand first!!!

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my bias is minhyuk, chan young is so nice and cute.

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i like him whenever he got on screen, i was like yeah it's puppy again!

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I love his character. So nice to his best friend and tolerant of his clingy girlfriend.

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Lmao at the fan girls trying to push for the favorite. Anyway on to the drama.

This episode was leaps and bounds better than episode 1. LMH could actually burn a hole in a wall with just his stare. Like seriously, his stare could cut through to your soul. This episode finally made me like Kim Tan's character a lot. I don't love him yet but I could totally get there. This character has the most potential because we still have so much untapped conflict with him. Tan vs Tan, Tan vs Bo Na, Tan vs Young Do, Tan vs Rachel, Tan vs himself. I can't wait to see where this character takes me.

I love the Rachel character. I don't know why, but the actress plays her role with the right amount of b*tvhyness. I totally get why she reacts the way she does. Unlike say Young Do who I don't like at all. That is how I know this actress is doing a great job. Because they are playing the male female versions of each other and I get her. While Young Do is an arsehole for no reason. Atleast Chuck Bass had charisma. I don't feel that with YD, atleast not yet.

The other character that I love is Chan Young. He is just adorable. He even makes Bo Na tolerable.

I think the statement the professor made to Kim Tan is a foretelling to where this story is heading. "Don't you think that you might find purpose if you turn it in sometime". This was sort of profound in a way. Very telling IMO since Kim Tan is just coasting by at the moment. But what is going to happen when he starts turning his work in? I can't wait to see.

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The incident with the professor made me laugh. I felt like they were trying to go for something profound and Yoda-ish; "hand in your paper to seek your purpose." Whereas I imagined the teacher mentally rolling his eyes and thinking,"You wrote the stupid paper, just hand it in, dumbass."

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"Don't you realize what a 0 will do to your average? I can't give you credit for something you don't turn in. We only have 4 papers this semester! Don't come crying to me when you get a D and can't get into Harvard."

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Ha ha, totally. You would've thought that LMH was getting his education in some remote mountain temple under a taoist priest/ buddhist spiritual master and not at a private high school in Socal.

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Lol! Great, now I'm picture his teacher with green skin and long pointed ears. Ha!

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I have no idea whether or not I want to watch this drama. Half of me feels as though I'll hate it while the other half is curious as to what it may be like. Does anyone have any good recommendations as to what I should do?

I personally hate the chaebol/poor girl storyline. I'm not sure why but I really do despise everything about it. It's just not refreshing and it always ends up being the problem of gaining the parent's approval, being accepted by society as a couple, etc, etc, etc.

BUT I love LMH. And that's why I'm so torn. But I think I hate the storyline more than I love LMH.

If it isn't refreshing, I really don't want to take the time to read the recap or watch the drama. If someone could provide me with a little bit of feedback (not a huge essay, but a quick word of encouragement or discouragement) that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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I honestly think this is not a decision anyone but you can make. Their are compelling arguments for both sides, although I'm enjoying it. I would say to manage expectations but give the first episode a shot.

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I was also hesitant about watching this because of the writer, and there's only so much LMH or KWB can do with a meh plot, but so far I'm liking how the characters are written even if I'm not sure if the script will live up to my low expectations. I'm giving it up to ep.4, but as I'm a big fan of the actors mentioned and some others as well, I'll probably continue watching anyway. KES has written compelling male leads so I won't have a problem watching LMH's character (I watched Faith mainly because of him and his leading lady even if the script and directing was not good).

But it's up to you. Watch it with low or no expectations and just don't get annoyed with the bad English or stereotypes or the unrealistic 10 mile run and you'll be fine. It's tone is different though from the writer's previous works and I'm liking it, so I'm just crossing my fingers that she won't give me a WTF ending like Lovers in Paris.

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-Make a list of pros and cons. Look at the past projects of the writer, director, and main cast. Look at what it will likely be, not what you want it to be. If you decide there are more cons than pros, walk away and don't sweat it. Watch something you know you will enjoy.

-And if when you decide to watch a drama, and you find yourself annoyed more than entertained during each episode, drop it. I wish I could take my own advice on that: I tend to get to about the 8th episode and commit to the long run even when I should not.

And hey, if you decide to drop it and you want to watch it later, hello marathon. :)

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I've only watched the first episode so far, which I found boring. I'm going to read recaps up to episode 5 (I'm hoping they'll be back in Korea by then and things will start coming together). Then, if it looks like things are picking up, I'll marathon episodes 2 - 5 and start watching episode 6 in real time (well, real subtitled time).

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I went through the same phase, I chose to watch. Both episodes didn't hook me although I see the potential of deeper/mature characters in two leads than a typical chaebol/poor girl drama, plus the writer moved their romance department quickly, so I think the drama will be more emphasize on mature relationship between family, friends and business than the leads' romance or just to gain the parent’s approval, to be accepted by society as a couple. (just my opinion)

I would say to wait for some more episodes, after the drama take shape distinctly (the story could go upside down like Eun-sung(PSY) turns into a rich girl and she become a big help to Kim Tan(LMH) to get chairman place. smth like that), decide yourself to watch or not. For me, I will only watch after it completely aired. I'm not that eagar to watch it waiting weekly.

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Thanks for posting the recap so quickly! It really helps to view and discuss in the same day.

I agree this episode was just more exposition, but I still enjoyed it! I think that while this may not be "great art," it still has more depth than people give it credit for. The feelings these kids and their parents are experiencing seem very real and poignant.

To me, the Kim Tan-Cha Eun Sang connection is off to a great start. I LOVE that we're not just seeing the usual haughty chaebok-simpering poor girl dynamic. Even if some of their adventures were on the ludicrous side (being chased by thugs again? Running from Malibu to Hollywood?), they're good bonding experiences for our main couple.

The Madame Jung -Madame Han situation was beyond messed up - can you imagine living with your married lover's family? I suspect we'll see a lot more shenanigans there. It was nice to see more of the characters in Korea, but I confess to being a bit confused about all the relationships between everyone. Maybe once everyone's back in Korea it will be easier to follow.

Did anybody else want to toss Rachel down the stairs after Eun Sang's suitcase? Man, what a beeyotch. I hate these characters -unfortunately, a trope in Korean and American dramas-who are nasty as all get-out, but we're supposed to feel sorry for them in the end because of their Deep Inner Pain! Spare me.

Looking forward to seeing where this drama takes us? Oh, and my new motto is "It's a rainy spring day, I should be inside watching "Texas Chainsaw Massacre!"

P.S. (small voice) - I also liked math a lot when I was in school.

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As Rachel is written and portrayed so far, I don't think she has a "Deep Inner Pain", which is what makes her so interesting to me. Unlike someone like Young-do, whose sadistic bullying will probably be attributed to an abusive father/traumatic childhood later on, she just seems to be bitchy just cause. I'm generally very disinterested in stock bitchy characters, but characters that are unapologetic about their bitchiness, and can actually come up with clever plans to wreck havoc on whatever it is they've set their minds to destroying are actually a lot of fun to watch. Someone already mentioned this in a different comment, but I am also seeing shades of Blair Waldorf in Rachel's characterization, which is great considering Blair is as good as it gets when you are talking bitchy characters. It's for these reasons that I hope she doesn't get relegated to under developed, second lead territory.

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I also thought of Blair Waldorf when I saw Rachel, which is why I rolled my eyes. Because it didn't take Gossip Girl more than a few episodes to parade out the excuses for her behavior (father abandonment! Bullimia! Inferiority complex! Mommy issues!). And as much as I do like Leighton Meester, it got a little ridiculous the stunts her character pulled and then had excused because of her inner pain. Hopefully we'll get something more from Rachel, because IMO she just wasn't charismatic or interesting -just a bitch.

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Well that was more fun, glad to see Kim Tan get a little snarky. Lee Min Ho, other than being dead sexy ala City Hunter, is at his best when being petty and bickering with his co star.

LOVE that Kim Tan's head brushes against the dream catcher!

I love the house. If I was rich and did not have to clean it, I'd totally want to live there. I love bright open houses. I love sleeping with sunshine coming in the window.

The American stereotyping is a little heavy handed, but did appreciate that the school campus shots tried to invoke a sense of diversity. Was that supposed to be a high school or college? It def looked college to me.

I smelled a hint of Twilight in this episode.

Anyone get sexy vibes between Hot Gummy Daddy an d Sexy Mama? Maybe I am just reading into things, but I was like what was that? I smell chemistry.

I think Woo Bin's character is going to be entertaining but I am having a hard time with it. It's difficult when you don't enjoy an actor in a drama you really want to watch. I

Kang Ha-neul=yay! WTF-Stress from being trying to meet familial expectations? Terminal illness or bulimia?

Was surprised that they busted out a little homo eroticism in the second episode.

Just my random first thougts on the epi. I just hope every episode does not end with a stare-a-thon.

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Oh, so I wasn't the only one who sensed some homo eroticism between Young Do, and Kang Ha Neul's character? When he busted up in the hotel room and asked to use the restroom, I just felt like Young Do was going to follow him in there. I was like wait... The last thing I thought would happen was him throwing up. There was some weird tension in that scene though. I think it is because of how the scene was set up. First they have Young Do, busting up in his room and taking off his clothes, and then Kang Ha Neual's character knocking shortly after. lol

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Well first we had the silly flirty play with Young Do and the other boy, and then -I think his name is Hyo-shin (Kang Haneul) and Young Do. And I agree, the context of the scene definitely informs how this appears a very intimate scene.

We just do not know what to make of all the character interactions because we do not know the relationships. Makes for disjointed viewing, but also good viewing because we learn as we go and it keeps it interesting.

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I enjoyed the silly flirting between Young Do and Myoung Soo. Their flirting made me laugh, mainly because Myoung Soo is so cute. The way he brushed his hair behind his ear was so cute (acting like the upset female). lol

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The flirting was definitely smile inducing.

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That was a great scene. I rewound it because it made me laugh. :)

Which now has me considering LoveIt and Mar's comments. Definitely worth thinking about.

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Because viewers have high expectations of Lee Min Ho. His acting is very flat...

His acting in Boys over Flowers was way better. I think he does not make a real effort to portray his role.

secondly, the 18 year olds are obviously like in their late 20s. such a poor casting.

there are 3 things i like in this drama - park shin hye and her mom who portray their roles well and lee hongki's singing of the ost.

the rest - so flat....i expected so much more from lee min ho in the area of acting. i'm disappointed. the stare is fine - nothing more. the facial expression in all others is so flat. i noticed his lipstick more....

i don't expect much anymore from this drama.

the scriptwriter should focus more on park shin hye and her mom - then probably the ratings will go up.

in the end, its just the handsome looks and beautiful faces of the heirs who can't really act.

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if it not going to be funny then I put it on my rather long watch one day list, but yeah really you should try and put aside all the hype, it never going to be able to get close to matching it and you end up dissapointed

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I am very sure the 'homoeroticism' was supposed to be comedy. But they both did really well and I had a smile through it all.

It is a completely different thing that I felt it did not feel nurratively cohesive. It was all so disjointed.

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I'll agree that the editing and pacing needed work. I too found it a tad disjointed.

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NEGL, I'm not much of a slasher, but I totally ship it now. Yes, please.

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I was just coming to post about the homoeroticism vibes between Young-do and Hyo-shin. I really hope it's for real because that storyline could be played well by these actors. They're both super talented and have great chemistry together.

It would also be great character reveals for both, elaborating on Young-do's overcompensation as a macho guy (he'd obviously be a top in this relationship) and Hyo-shin's deep-seated need to portray a perfect image in all ways. It would make their characters super interesting if they had this sort of history (and future...please please future).

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I also had a "whoa, wait a sec" reaction to Daddy GumiHot and Mistress Mom. In fact, it jogged my memory: one of the Heirs cast posters actually has him standing behind her chair with his hand on her shoulder, and she's covering it with one of hers.

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AGB rating for Episode 2 went down from 11 to 10 %. Among the Wednesday-Thursday dramas, it's 2nd after Secret which is now at 14% and last is Medical Top Team.

This was contrary to what I had anticipated....I thought Heirs would lead, followed by Medical Top Team and Secret last. It seems that Secret's script is solid judging by the significant increase in ratings per episode.

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secret is picking up
both male leads are complete assholes and the drama has it's flair of makjang and noble idiocy
but i'm actually enjoying the drama and anticipating what'll happen next
so i totally understand the increase in the ratings

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I actually find that drama more compelling than Heirs. I am watching Heirs only because it is all pretty.

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Forreal? i watched the first episode and thought it was boring.
More boring than nice guy.
I should probably give it another chance, but considering how ratings are increasing(probably due to some added makjang and dramatics), im gonna have to pass..
In the mood for some laughs, teen angst, some crazy perm. and basketball.

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I actually felt the same up to around ep3, then around ep4 it went to the top of my Don't Miss list. As far as makjang, I have not really seen much, if any, nor any great dramatics. Overall I think much better acted than Heirs, but it does start off a bit slow.

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Hm. I trust your judgement Windsun. I might actually go check it out if i ever have the time amidst all these fall premieres.

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Yeah, but in Secret the "hidden" asshole is by far the worst of the two - now it looks like he even killed her father to cover up his lies.

And BTW, yeah I think Secret is better than this, despite the initial noble idiocy of the girl. She is a pretty good actress it seems - I really felt for her, unlike most of the characters in Heirs.

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Secret really is better than Heirs, can say I'm surprise if has higher ratings while Heirs ratings went down.

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Meant "Can't say I'm surprise it has higher ratings".

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really into Secret right now

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Windsun33 I'm curious what happened after 4 that made you change your mind? :)

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I think the main thing that really annoyed me about the first 2 or 3 episodes is that the heroine was acting like the total classic noble idiotic martyr for her boyfriend, but after really bad things started happening to her she started to actually get a clue, and also when her wonderful boyfriends really dark side started coming out.

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I thought it'd be interesting to catch up on secret till the most recent episode with the help of FF.
Holy crap. this show has so much effed up characters.
Our hero is the most horrible hero i've ever seen in k-dramas. Can he be redeemed? As of now, i am thinking never. Will i ship him with the heroine? Never, even if they were the only ones left on earth.
Crazy shit keeps happening. I applaud this writer for having the balls.
No wonder the ratings shot up like hell from the dismal 5% premiere ratings..
It's like makang revenge/betrayals on steroids. No wonder some people are saying it's compelling.
This show is definitely not better than heirs in terms of quality, but it sure as hell invoked a hell lot more in me than heirs did.
It's a strange mixture of feelings.

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Kang Maru and Han Yi Soo would seem like angels after watching secret.

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Windsun this is interesting since I don't think she changed that much on ep 4.

ilikemangos forget the FF button, you have to watch all the craziness :P besides Secret is already super fast moving, in FF it must be outright maniac.

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@ Lixie - I don't think SHE changed much in ep3 and ep4, but the overall tone of the drama seemed to all of a sudden get a lot darker and more compelling. I can't really say at what exact point I got hooked, I just know that I almost dropped it at ep1, but by ep4 I was hooked worse than the druggy surfer dude in Heirs.

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I wonder if it'll drop to single digits with Secret picking up. Maybe not since MTT isn't doing well either. They have to be sweating the low ratings. I always though people overestimated how well this would do domestically. Any drama that tries so damn hard to be the next big thing usually isn't.

They had one chance to get ratings and they needed and amazing first episode to get people talking before everyone settled on Secret as the show to watch. They failed there.

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The ratings are not really THAT low - I think it still placed 3rd in weekday dramas (Secret is #1). But it dropped to 11th overall, while Secret was #3 overall and rising fast. What surprised me about Secret is how fast it went from 5% to 15%, while Heirs actually dropped after only 2 episodes. I read someplace that the last quarter hour of Heirs ep2 was 15th on AGB-Nielsen.

What surprises me about Heirs is that all the fangurls outside of Korea seem to be going nuts over it, almost to the point of being sick - dozens of posts in a row with nothing but "best drama ever" followed by "why isn't ep3 up yet". Yet interest in Korea seems much less fanatical, even with all the K-idols.

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Yeah, they aren't THAT low considering all the low rated dramas airing right now, but I doubt they thought ratings would drop in the 2nd episode given the hype. Everyone was supposed to be scared to go against this drama.

Yeah, Secret is doing really well which is why I think it's going to be hard for Heirs to catch up.

LMH has a huge international fandom so I'm not surprised.

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Thanks so much for the recap! Would someone mind giving me a crash course in the whole "family resigtry" thing? I get that it affects the inheritance and status of family members, but I have no idea what it is or why. Help?

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hmm seems you not part of the family until you put on the govenment resigtry, that makes it legal. You find it lot in k-drama..sometimes it is age for many reason the family delays resigtry so legal you one years old but really you could be say four [so I understand it] the other used one is the father will take a child off the reisgtry..ie disowning the child, again i sure there has to be some sort of age and protection for under age children but that is often skipped over in dramas. There is a whole sub class of people in Korea that have no ID or offical status..non people if you like.

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"a whole sub class of people in Korea that have no ID or official status"?

Do not make a statement as if it is true if you have no idea what you are talking about. There is no sub class of people in Korea without any ID or official status unless they are illegal immigrants who overstayed their work visas. If you are Korean and if you don't have a resident registration no, you simply cannot maintain any lifestyle there (you can't get a job, you can't drive, you can't even get a cell phone). I've never met any Korean who was in that situation.

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@ Bjharm - the whole registry system was overhauled and changed in 2007 and 2008, so your info is outdated. There were a lot of major changes in the system, one of the big ones being that it is no longer based on "head of household" (that was abolished in 2005) (which in k-dramas would be the evil chaebol chairman).

Unfortunately it is not just you that is a bit out of date, but also many drama writers who keep using the old method in plots.

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nothing to do with the drama yet but i love actor Kang Haneul! <3. I'm happy to see him here even if his roles tend to amount to angsty staring and no romance. I want him to be more famous so he can be the lead and get the girl sometime (soon) in his career.

as a resident of the area, i was excited to know that a kdrama was being filmed here (and if I went to Huntington Beach a few times just in case I caught a glimpse but never did, I won't say) but I can't wait until it is back in Korea. haha.

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Ok this episode was a big improvement and we got to meet Kang Ha-Neul's character. Can't wait to find out why these heirs hate each other so much.

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agree! i thought episode one started off awkwardly, improved a teeny tiny bit by the end but i was not feeling it. this episode was definitely better than the first so i can let my previous optimism seep in a little. i think PSH's performance helps. i thought she was the only good thing about episode 1 and i find that i like her more as the show progresses--but i have to say that w/a knock on wood seeing as how this is only the second episode.

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I'm a little worried that episode 3 will still be in California but hopefully they are headed back to Korea soon and we can get some more background on our characters. I really like PSH.

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please oh please let them leave the u.s. it's a bit cruel of them to stay "here" so long, lol

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